The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: The Submersible

Episode Date: June 21, 2023

Our crew is captivated by the most popular story in the world: the lost submersible touring the Titanic wreckage. Jess explains her obsession with the story, the crew hypothesizes what is going on, and Dan tells us about a book he read on the benz. Then, Victor Wembanyama has startlingly huge hands, and Billy is feeling the effects of sitting in Mike's EP chair. Plus, Dan and the Shipping Container break down the most recent report on the Blazers attempting to trade for Bam Adebayo, and Mike has a scorching hot take about Wembanyama. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Don Levertor Show with the Stugots Podcast. Billy is in charge today. Mike is allegedly someone who is taking a step back. No stew gots today. And Billy, you didn't tell me we were on the air. You didn't seem to know we were on the air. My microphone went on, the video went on. Yeah. And the first act of business and Billy in charge is no one has told me we're live. Well, I got eight minutes notice that I was in charge today. But what happened was is I was getting a countdown in my headset from video that I thought everyone was getting. I was in told that I had to repeat that countdown to everyone. So, okay. We're here though. We're fine. Let's just keep it. That's right. A rough and rugged

start tracks. No, no one even knew. So really when played it off, when I give a countdown to everybody, you never found that weird? Well, Why didn't know that Jason was giving you a countdown in your headset, you know? Yeah. You like to talk too. So I just thought you liked being the countdown person. We also are not really sure who's hearing what through the headset sometimes.

Yeah. It's a whole new system. A whole new world. That's us here today. She's coming and singing. And I know that she is obsessed as all of us are obsessed with this immersive story because it seems like an uncommon horror and I didn't let horror and I did not let Billy unspool a thought that he had yesterday because the fear of it is so large that I don't want

to just turn this immediately into content without regard for what these people are experiencing if they're still alive. But it's fascinating for a number of different reasons, not the least of which is who chooses to do this. When this is the risk, none of us would choose to do this if we knew that this was the risk. But Billy was saying yesterday, you're a billionaire. You've won it life.

Just do nothing. Why would you risk it by going to see a famous shipwreck? Well, he also went to space not too long ago. Like, there's plenty of things to do on earth. Why do you have to be going into space and I don't get it? Does that CBS news video like real? Like, that's the actual vessel that he was in

that is like, It's 21 feet long and vessel that he was in that is like. It's 21 feet long and there's no room to sit down really. How do they fit five people in there? It's smaller than the shipping container, the original shipping container. But it's controlled by remote control. It has an elevator button which is useless because there's no elevator. You're going two miles down into the sea and I've read some about this. I read a book one time about what it's like to get the bends.

I, all, all scuba stuff scares me because- Day was it, David McCullough's Brooklyn Bridge biography? It was a sunken ship book off of, I don't remember the name of it. I'll have to look it up. It's one of the best books I've read, but I read it 20 years ago. That's what rich people do.

They read books about experiences. They don't actually do those things. The app would be our head meat. That's 3,500 bucks. Get that and go down to the Titanic. Exactly. You're looking through a little tiny window that's smaller than a window on an airplane. What's the point?

Let me explain to you. So you go two miles down into the sea to see the most historic shipwreck. People are fascinated by shipwrecks and they also think of the sea being even more unexplored somehow than space. You go down in a material that can withstand huge amount of pressure, but you're not gonna

really be able to open anything in a panhink from inside of the vessel because you're trapped in what Cody was calling yesterday, a nautical casket, a coffin, if something goes wrong, and we're reading now, that while this is an experimental, you have to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars and sign a waiver that on the first sheet says death three different times because they're sending you down with a remote control waiver to go see a ship wreck

in a vessel that's 21 feet. The bathroom is very small and useless. There are no real seats and it seems like a two hour and a half horror to just drop to the bottom of the sea. That's what those people are trapped in with what now is less than 24 hours of breathable air. What if the windows fogged? Like you go down there for nothing. Like if you go scuba diving, you have to do that thing where like you take off your mask

and you spit in it and then you go like this and then you have to put up against your face and then water gets in and you have to blow out with your nose so that the water shoots out the side. It's like a whole thing, but you can't do that. I have the defogger spray from some last month. That doesn't work. Yeah, that doesn't work. Billy is right though. It's one window, right? It's right. It's a tiny port hole. This company also, there's been evidence that has come out now since this happened that they've been sued by one person

who was a whistleblower who knew that this, you know, wasn't safe and they tried to fire him and then he was like, this is not safe and I don't want to take manned crews down there. There's been other lawsuits of people that have paid for the trip that didn't get to go on the trip, which by the way, I would be pretty relieved to fire that guy today. I believe, you know what?

It's all good. They can keep my money. I think it's one of those things where you can't, and most people can't fathom having $250,000 to spend on something so reckless and just doesn't seem to have a pretty big payoff for anyone. But you do feel bad because how just horrible the thought is comes in is for this company who is charging these people absorbing amounts of money for something that is just not safe by any standard. It is just not a safe vessel.

Evidently James Cameron was the only one who had been to these depths experimentally before this particular project began that has been in business for years and made a lot of money for years. And now lot of money for years and Now I one would assume the business is over one would assume that what is going There's always a comeback story day exactly the CEO is one of the missing people really yeah That's why you build a business with infrastructure so you can do stuff then walk away and then have the business run itself How would you run a business like that? Build it up. I would love to run a business like that.

I wish I could create one. I mean, there was a pandemic. Yeah, I know. It's a pandemic. Like building a plane mid-flight, some say. Jessica, you're fascinated by which details, because. All of it. I mean, I think there's, I talked a little bit about this on

Goliath and Smeti this week. Check out Goliath and Smeti Webber get your podcasts when I show it with my Goliath. Well, first 15 minutes of the show, we talked about this a bit. There's a subsection of people, I think specifically young girls who grew up in the 90s, around the time that Titanic came out,

that are obsessed with the Titanic. This is a thing that I know a lot of people who are just obsessed with the wreckage of the Titanic, the movie, the Titanic, This is a thing that I know a lot of people who are just obsessed with the wreckage of the Titanic, the movie, the Titanic, all of the things about the Titanic, the making of the Titanic. And it's like when something that you are or were obsessed with when you were a little kid comes back into the public and you know a little bit about it, you kind of latch onto it.

And then I also think there's just a subsection of people that it truly doing this is unfathomable unfathomable to them So like the human interest level is just peeking off the charts and to me a former Titanic enthusiast I went to the Titanic exhibit at the Chicago Museum of Science and Industry Fantastic exhibit they give you a little card and those are my bonus feeders the little card I was eight years old it has a person's name on it and you walk in and you go through the exhibit And then at the end you find out if you're a little person on your card survived or not Everyone in my family died except my sisters. Wow. Yeah, Billy. I that's interesting Mike Thanks of himself as the world's foremost Titanic X

Right, I think we're gonna have to have a Titanic off between Mike and Jessica question Why do we romanticize the Titanic? It was a giant boss. It's a great question. It sucked. It was a tiny, if you look at it by cruise ship standards now is a tiny garbage ship. It didn't even last one sailing, crashed into an iceberg,

which I had to that even happen. I'll parade it. It was overrated. It was a disaster. They missed it only because it's a thing. Why do we romanticize the Hindenburg? Well, there's a lot of similarities. I mean it is the the The Titanic was complete disaster one of the biggest maritime disasters in human history

But also the I could literally build a cruise ship that goes on as many successful sailings as a Titanic if not more Billy the Titanic won we do this all the time it was lost for decades Yeah, it was found very recently so the appeal the mystery of the Titanic and what happened and how it Crash and everything like that. It's all somewhat recent history, right? And a number of extremely wealthy famous people at the time died It is in the pilot episode of Downton Abbey they find out that their cousin I believe one of the heirs to Downt to the Abbey died on the Titanic. It was a monumental thing at the time period, because it was an unsinkable ship that sank.

We always revel when the biggest thing fails, be it the Titanic, because it was the biggest of us. The Hindenburg. Or the Hindenburg. No, I was going to go with the Brooklyn Nets and Quibi. Do you remember Quibi? I signed up for like a free trial of Quibi, and then it was like, you have six months of Quibi

or I may have paid. Please don't undercut my jokes. Well, I'm just saying, I see nothing. No, it's not gonna be a word. I wanna hear your Quibi story. Well, went away right away, and I have Quibi. I have much tighter windows over here, and you can't just suck the air out of my bunchlines.

It's especially with the wrong. Welcome to Billy's World. Jessica, you were also sped up there for reasons that are both enthusiasm and nobody gets to talk very long around here. Yes, that also, I'm just, I wanna put this out there because it sounds like I'm morbidly curious about this tragedy I am, don't get me wrong.

But I also, it is a tragedy, it is very sad. Not yet, not yet, hold on, not yet. It's currently a mystery, it hasn't turned to tragedy yet. I'm hopeful that I'm a lot more. Are the labels reports right? That yes, a pinging sound that people can hear something. Yeah, 30 minute intervals, and then four hours later, they caught pinging from presumably inside the hole.

This is the military operations because we've mobilized a lot of Coast Guard resources and military resources. The thing about all of this is they find the sub and then it gets complicated. It's bolted from the outside. So yeah, these people on board can't, even if they've come up to the surface, they can't get themselves out of it, which is also horrifying.

And you can't, and you can't just bring them up quickly. So say they have, they find them with two hours to spare, takes two hours to safely get them up to the surface. What happens? The whole thing is, it's bizarre, it's insane. I'm asking Dan because they read a book on the bends. Oh yeah, let us know. Well, the fascination of shipwrecks i will look up the title of the book that they're at cabin pressure though inside the hall they they don't have they're

not at the right sea level level pressure it's pressurized it's like going on an airplane like you know finding finding them as micrion is saying is is is a source of great, great relief that only begins now the rescue because they're an assortment of difficulty. You can't just move somebody from inside that vessel into another chamber and be safe. You can't, at that distance of water, it's just, most materials can't exist back there.

At that depth, that's why submarines are made of some of the stuff they're made of. And how do you grab it? How do you bring it to the surface? Someone got to swim out and hook it like way night in Jurassic Park. No, they're not gonna do that Do we have like some sort of scooper mechanism on one of our subs that can grab it? How do we bring it to the surface once we locate this tomb? Because that's what we're fascinated by right? It's it's like because I don't I'm not comfortable with it either Jessica the examining of the mortality of all this while the people are still alive and losing breathable air yeah possibly alive I'm I think I'm

most fascinated by what Billy was saying earlier which is having this much money and cash to spend on anything you want and you want to go on an experimental submarine vessel to the bottom of the ocean with it you got to de tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener que tener La calle llevamos todos a cieras, pero lo más aterradores no saberen que confiar. Uy de las personas que os piden que mireis, si queréis seguir convido. Birdbox Barcelona, estreno en Netflix el 14 de julio. Te atreves a ver. Tan levatar. Tan, kids, you don't really realize how much time it just adds to your day. And how little they bring to the table

They bring nothing to the table Nothing to the table in fact you have to bring the table to them But I wanted to go to Flanagan's before you know what I would do. I grabbed my keys. I had hop in my car Now there's seven different bags. You got a tanker 35 minutes ago to play in again. I'm still got Move everything around all of a sudden you can't leave knives everywhere like I'm used to put it on the pole 25 minutes ago to play in again. Stugats. Nothing like that. Nothing like that. Move everything around. All of a sudden you can't leave knives everywhere like I'm used to. Put it on the pole gear, my at-labored tarred show.

Is there anything lazier than an infant? This is the Don Lebertar Show with a Stugat. We're presented by Dr. King Spotspook, one of America's top-rated sports book apps. Drive King's has all kinds of ways to get in on the action, including seeing game parlays, props, live betting, and so much more. You just go down when you sign up on a Drive King Sportsbook app to check it out. I'm looking at the graphic and I cannot deny that this is exceptional television, great television, pioneering television. I'm not even making it up.

You would stop and look at what it is was on get up graphically. And it just said, Victor, Wembenyama's hands are very big. And then they showed you his hand holding a baseball. So how have a change of grip he has there? It is startling. But of course his hands are very big.

He's seven foot four, and somebody made a bet on Draft Kings I don't know if a change of grip he has there. It is startling, but of course his hands are very big. He's seven foot four and somebody made a bet on draft kings for $60,000 to win 300 that he would be the first pick tomorrow. $60,000 to win 300. $300. $300. You bet $60,000 to win $300 on him being the first pick.

For that, you go a million, right? Good luck collecting that at the bottom of the ocean. Let's continue this conversation with the, it is too soon to make jokes about some of this stuff. I'm horrified for these people, but I am fascinating. I've got the same morbid curiosity that Jessica does. Do you remember when we did a podcast two summers ago when the first like civilian flight to space was happening

and we were still on like a little bit of a delay. So we were like, let's wait and see, make sure everyone gets back to Earth safely before we publish this because we were all watching it together live on TV at the same time. That was a fun, weird day. It was a fun show, I will say.

This feels like the stakes are much different, much higher, much worse. This is something that has only been done before by a few people. The stakes are the same really, though. We thought we were watching people go to space and that they were going to possibly die blow up or float off or something would go wrong because privatized space travel is something that is about as exclusive as what we're talking about here which is a privatized c travel it's the same thing same consequences same risk same stakes i guess it felt different because it felt like a more

like legitimate venture where is like this is something most of us hadn't heard of till now So it's kind of like a weird curiosity and now there I would like to put on the record that I am anti hold on untimely Death, okay I'm putting that on the record because there seems to be a large amount of people that are like well if you're gonna Do something this reckless is kind of like if you get in like a skydiving accident It's like well, what did you expect? And it's like, well, I wasn't expecting to die. Probably not to die, or else you wouldn't have done it.

I think that it is bizarre to be like, well, you know, well, what do you, you knew this was a risk, right? Why'd you do that? It's like, and maybe they didn't really know that this was, this is like a risk. Well, you don't think the details are, and it's a PlayStation controller. Like, and, and, and, they had to know that before they got in, right?

Like, there's no way that they got in and then they were like looking around and like, oh my God, like this handles from home goods. Like, what are we doing, right? Yeah, that's crazy. There's not be a bull game named after where you're getting parts for your prototype submarine that's going to the bottom of the ocean.

There's somebody that's getting away Scott free in this whole situation. Nobody's talked about him, nobody said anything about him. How did the guy who is controlling the little submarine with the PlayStation controller? How do you lose the sub? Where is that person? How does that guy not get like, hey guy, where's the sub? Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, well, I lost it. Don't lose the sub. We are not going to just gaspag about this. We're going to talk to an expert later in the show. Also a show that includes Chris Paul about what is happening right now to get details about submersives and submarines that we don't know because paul is the expert no i tried to i tried to camouflage that but i knew you would be there for

me no chris paul is not the expert that we will talk that be wild about the submersive uh... that would be crazy that's not what we're gonna talk to them about that can i ask you a question? Yes. Let me not, nevermind, continue. I mean, what was the point? Well, because what happens is I ask a question and then it comes up later and then I look like a jerk.

But I didn't intend for that to be the case. We're in it though, so I'll ask you, why are you scheduling a book release? Like right after the MBA finals? Because like, you know, if you don't win, you're gonna get criticized for writing a book during the season and putting it out and all that. It's a timing-wise, just seeing,

like could we not wait like a season to put out that book? Oh, you think that Chris Paul has aired by putting out a biography before his career is over when he's in the center of the news, that there's a bad time for him to capitalize on his brand toward the end of his career by telling you his life story beyond basketball. You think it's a look at me bad move?

I just, I mean, career's almost over. It's way to year, you know? I think you put out like two books this year, right? I think you put out like a children's book too. I could have been reading the book internet wrong, but I think that that's the case. I think it's like a second or third book that he puts up. Did you do that on purpose where you just moved it from the submersive over to Chris Paul

and the take that his book is coming out on the bad time or did you do that by accident? I don't know. I just did it, man. I'm just here. I'm just trying to get to Wednesday afternoon then Thursday then Friday. Okay, so I want this interview with Chris Paul to go well.

If you want to start, do you want to start asking that question? Do you want to start it by asking him why are you doing this right now and just starting with a criticism? Now you see why it is that I immediately said let me not ask this question. Let's just move on with the rest of the show.

And really the person that should be talking to Chris Paul if anyone is to God. Like that's the person that should be in here. He really did skate on this one because he's been talking mad s for the last couple of years about this guy. And now where is he?

Well, how can we do this with Chris Paul? Since he's here to sell a book and since these transactions are always a little bit uncomfortable for me because one of the reasons I bought all these interviews is at least in part because I expect the guests to come on and entertain our audience and the guest expects

to come sell the product. And those are two different goals. And Chris Paul is interested in selling his book and I'm interested in making Chris Paul interesting and sometimes I do dumb shit or we as a show do dumb shit and then publicists never want to talk to us again. Can we vow to not do dumb shit today? Let's have a packed all of us. Let's not do anything dumb with it again.

But you're in charge today. It's a different seed, right? Mike's in that small window where he can't Yammer and contaminate the show with his poisons of talking too much and you're in the seat where you're controlling. Yeah. But you're uncontrollable.

But you're uncontrollable. I'm not sure. I'm not sure. What do you mean? Put it on the pole at Levitard show. I'll throw it in the room. Who's more uncontrollable? Me or Billy?

But I'm fun uncontrollable There was a word for me. It's Spanish that I was told today, but I'll say yeah Both When I bleak I'll well both it means like kind of like a lovable Oh for somebody that kind of bothers you, but you like them right, but you can have somebody who's by So who's bothering you, but you don't like them right? So Billy's whom both it that he's a he's a guy that okay? We kind of just do a dog that sounds like a dog. Thank you. It's any other time. He someone gets it I mean Stugots is he isn't he the same thing as you got's also in both

Yeah, because he's somebody that we that we like but you've been in that category You you were trying to distance yourself from that category yesterday. That's the category. The category is likeable buffet. I had a conversation with someone else that works here when I was told that I'm on buffet and I said, how is it that everybody's wrong? Okay. It just doesn't make sense to me. How does everybody here just not get it? Who are these people you're employing, Dan, that nobody seems to get it?

Everyone's wrong, but me. It's wild. Yeah. It's crazy. Right? Something about that chair. I have an eye twitch now. I know we're not talking about that. That also comes with the chair. It's been two days now with this i-twitch and I don't know what's going on. I'm worried

that my eyeballs are going to fall out of it. I've had one that's lasted months before. Which I? My right eye, like the bottom lid. Mine's my left eye. My right eye. Mine's my left eye. My right eye.

My right eye. Mine's my left eye. My right eye. Mine's my left eye. My right eye. Mine's my left eye. My right 2016. Yeah, it's weird. I don't know what's caused it I don't know how to stop it. I know it caused it really I have a pretty good idea just sitting there 15 minutes ago is what you think caused the eye twitch How long have you had the eye twitch? It started yesterday, but I was back there yesterday But it happened here when I first got it. I was like that's not good Yeah, this is where it happened and then it happened to me at home too and I go, gosh.

Residuals from here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Did you do anything to solve your eye twitch? Is that what the sunglasses are on? Lexa Pro. Oh.

What is that? You're supposed to eat a banana, potassium deficiency could be a reason, but it could also be a spasm from spasm. You don't drink water, Billy. You need to drink water. I don't need that. No, what you need to do is to visualize water.

Oh. My father, I thank you, Tony. You just delivered with the same frustration to Billy that I have to my father. My father has been drinking crappy kind of publics brand store, windixi, brand store, diet, orange soda. Oh, check.

Check. No, but he's been drinking that as his liquid for 50 years and I'm like, Bobby, there's water in there. There's water in there. Bobby, that's not good for you. That's not good for your insides. The, the Windixi brand orange diet drink. That's been his water. That's what, that's what Billy does.

Billy, buddy, Billy. No, I go for the, that's the one place where I go for the Micah, you know what I mean? Coca-Cola or bus sunk his toll. Here's the thing about Bill. I got sunk is a BJ's 24 cans for eight dollars. That's 30 water a can brother all your ailments and all the things that played you is because you don't drink any water. No false drink any water. No, false. Okay. Can I tell you that everybody's wrong except

I have, it's because Dan's employed all these people that just tell everybody the wrong things. It's the weirdest thing in the world. I don't get it. Here's the thing. I downloaded this app called Yuka the other day, right? You. What?

Yeah, it's not what you think. It's not what I think. It's Yuka. Why? No, I heard what you said. YUKA and you scan scan products, and it tells you on a scale of one to a hundred if it's good or bad for you. And then it lists exactly everything in it

that is bad for you. And I got bad news for everybody here. Everything's bad for you. Nothing is good for you. We should scan this studio. Let me know what it says. I'll scan it. Give me some of the scan.

I'll scan the number. Just scan band space. Anything with a barcode, give it to me. I'll scan it. Give me some of the scan. I'll give you a number. Just scan band space. Anything with a barcode. Give it to me. I'll scan it. It does shampoo, it does conditioner. It does everything. Yeah, Yuka.

Why you AK? Say it. That's a perfect app for you. I can't spell it. We should get someone to create an app that is a fake app, but we don't tell Billiots fake. We get him to download it. And the app just reminds him to drink water

every couple hours because yeah device device an app called fab what's that look right here hold it hold it up to people and say no I'm on fab look some of you some of you might be I'm fapping some of you might think this frappuccino is really healthy for you right that's it that's nobody's not a genius. Nobody ever thought that. 30 out of 100. Who knew? I'm fapping right now. There is an advertisement to build around the FAP campaign of Billy's personal product

where he tells you whether things are good or bad for you. I'm pretty sure, though, what Tony is saying. I'd like to, again, I'd like to go back to what you said, which is employing people who say the wrong things everywhere. We do have a lot of those. But I do believe that what Tony said is correct and universally agreed upon that drinking water is good for you. Please, ladies you take everybody says, so poppy one of Billy's kidney stones to get him off the, can I just, you know, don't have kidney stones, people that drink water. Yep. Can I just tell you guys something?

No. I passed a kidney stone on Sunday. What? Yeah, on Saturday ended up in the ER, and it was like right after an episode of Mystery Crate where I was talking about the cystoscopy that I had to do, I cursed myself. And you know what that is?

You notice a cystoscopy is? We don't have time to do that. It's a camera up your back. A kidney stone is like the worst pain a male can feel It's supposed to be like labor He's had 30 of them and losing back-to-back finals for me happy father's day to me, huh birth the stone Don't lebertard What's up guys? What's up, man? Good luck today, boy. If you know him the way I know I'm growing up

Everyone knows the corn boy. Hi, come in bees. Don't do that. You just embarrassed me so much Still gots. Okay guys Nick Jonas is walking this way. Oh, can we get him to say what's up? I know exactly like I'm gonna say we have a chat on 18. Oh my god. I do not know. Do we have trolls? Yeah. Oh, we're gonna get we're gonna get partly Hey, what's up? No, Nick good luck, that shot on 18, my god, nah. Whoo! Tall, he bought, he made it. That's time you embarrass the city. Yeah, that's the way.

Boy. This is the Don Limiter Show with this two-gats. We're presented by Dr. King Spursberg, one of America's top-rated Spursburg apps. Draff King's has all kinds of ways to get in on the action including seeing game Paul A's props, live betting, and so much more. You just go down when you sign up on a Dr. King Spursburg app to check it out. Jake Fisher of Yahoo Sports reports that the trailblazers are ready to make a significant offer for BAM. If that's real, there's only one significant offer the blazers can make.

They have one to make. No, the number three pick. That's not the offer. That would be hilarious. If this ends with the Blazers getting BAM and they heat ending up with the number three pick and no Lillard. That's not Riley's way. Like that, if the Blazers are making a significant offer for BAM, they have to know that Lillard is the offer. And then Mike would say, yeah, make the trade. I'm not sure Riley would.

I'm not sure Riley would say, yeah, let me go do this with Jimmy and Lillard instead of Jimmy and Bam. Well, they're going after Bam to pair with Dame because it's a show of good faith to improve the roster. Dame, honest, I believe it when all the reports because we have all these years to go off of that Damien wants to say in Portland and he wants to win a championship in Portland and he wants the Blazers to make an honest effort to improve the team around him.

Bam out of bio for as much as I rag on him, I think you'd be the best teammate Damian Lillard's ever had. Above all, Dr. Bud CJ McCollum. So we all know from that show time show that Damian loves Bam. So make an effort to acquire BAM using that number three pick. By all indications are right now the focus is to keep Dam and use the number three pick to improve the team right now. When that fails, maybe they pivot and in these conversations where the structural crossroads is for Portland and it's how 15 years into player empowerment. It's the only way Dame gets the team he wants in Portland is by putting all the pressure

on them to make sure that they're about win right now. But I don't think they have the pieces to make that satisfactory. And I think Lillard will just end up being halfway through this season or next season. What Bradley Beal was last season, which is, yeah, I'm here. I'm going to try it with these guys at the Supermax. And then I'm going to be available after a year because I got all mine and also it didn't work. Lillard's been loyal long enough that the Crossroads Portland faces is they have to go get the

pieces to satisfy Damien Lillard. But what does that look like? Because the pieces that they want from Miami are the pieces Miami wants to keep in order to have him. Like that's not a trade Miami's going to make. They have Simon's in the number three pick. Like that's enough to get you a superstar to win now to pair with with Damien I think. But I, we do this every year. And Damien just tuxes headdone and says, okay, well, I'll keep trying. And then no one talks about him, come, May, how can both teams think that they're going to get the other team star? It doesn't seem like this is going to be a recipe for a successful trade.

That is correct, Billy. But that's the kind of stuff we're going to talk about before Thursday because, transactionally, and we love these things, we went right to heat in the finals three days later. Okay, who else they're going to get? How are they going to get better? What are they going to do? As Pat Riley gives you, it's okay for us to just tinker. Pat Riley said publicly, and Mike, I'm guessing you objected to that. You don't want tinkering, you want a, you want immediately to bring in somebody better than Jimmy. I think the finals showed that they need more. You know, it's a majestic run that I do think was gonna ring eternal, but very clearly,

not good enough to be the champion. Everybody is right when they say, you can't win a title with Jimmy Butler as your best player. And he's only getting a year older. He seemingly got older in the middle of that boss and so. Okay, you keep saying a version of that, but when you say everyone's right about that, if Tyler hero is what they're paying him to be, if Tyler hero is Bradley Beale, then Jimmy Butler might be good enough to be your best player. If Tyler hero is Bradley,

be a little busy. Meet me. I know. But you're paying him pretty close to what you'd pay. Look, Bradley, be a little bit better than the third best player in Phoenix is making that.

Your third best player makes what Tyler hero makes when you're in a salary cap sport, you're not just fighting the other team on players. You're fighting them with the dollars. Right'd like for a bam to be the third best player because i think then if if he could get the new alert i think their favorites in in the east don't you lila and bill are both better than tyler hero my point on tyler hero is your

saying and everyone saying now jimmy butler's not good enough but three games ago yeah i understand games ago that's not what was being said. I understand. Three of them. I understand your point about a healthy Tyler hero. It's one that all fans should cling to when they realize they fell short in the NBA finals. My counterpoint to that is they made the NBA finals without Tyler hero. How important is he? Well, you need a next step. What do you think? You need you you certainly need another score. Phoenix is paying $60 million a year because they're saying it's that important. It's you know what gets us past Denver are third guys better. Yep. That's our third guy.

They're fourth guys deandre eight. But they went six games with Denver and and one the two at home or one the first two at home We're tied to two Denver and then say not good enough. We're gonna go get Bradley Beale because now we're gonna, they're gonna trade eight and two, right? They're not gonna keep Dayton, are they? And we'll see what the market is. I don't know what leverage they have. You also need somebody to come back with Yokech, two of you in the West. You need a big body to try and stop them at some point.

Honestly, I came away from that MBA final, say man, dead man got his revenge because I was just a big body to throw it at Yokech and wear them down. That can't be your take from the finals. I'm worried about your- I have plenty of takes from the finals, but that was one of my takes, which is, uh, did not-

Any other body? Yeah, Deadman actually won that. I'm worried about you for a number of different reasons. I'm being very rational right now, I'm going to- It looks fine today. I think I feel better in this seat, although my kidney is starting to hurt. Be careful. Drink some water.

By the way, I've been scanning things in the studio in case you were wondering Mike I have bad news for you I'm not gonna name the name because I don't want to get any one. Oh, no the thing that I drink every morning No, the thing that you put on your face is zero out of a hundred the foundation. Yeah, it's bad foundation Not good for you. No, don't eat the foundation. Don't eat the foundation on the flip side. I'll say this Right here these dollar shave club, minty tingle, one wipe charles, never seen it before, 100 out of 100.

Oh, give that white. Eat the white. Yeah, give that to me right now. That's things that you can throw up at. Eat these wipes. There's no way that you're going to get anything bad of eating one of those wipes. Wait, let me see if it says don't eat the wipes.

Don't eat the wipes at home. Mike will eat the wipes exclusively here on the show. Or external use only External use. Didn't you say you were gonna If you are take from the finals is Deadman would have made a difference difference i am he's not wrong from the final imaginative zeller was nowhere to be found here

can you imagine a chance of the imagine if you will but i in the same segment where well how much does hero really matter i get well dead man would have matter okay if that's that and that analysis by is bad enough, but not quite as bad all the money we're paying, Mike Ryan to be and the analyst who is smart at the microphone, not quite as bad as yesterday, which you did not get made up fun of enough, which is as if you

were saying something that was enlightened, you told our audience, Colin Cowherd had it right, Denver just had more dudes, was your analysis. Yeah, and I got sent to the penalty box. It's a good take for correctly attributing a quote. It's such shit as a take. That's not my take. That's why I put it on Colin Cowherd. You put it on Cowherd,

but you wore it like a shield, you were afraid. You were afraid to save for yourself. I got a big coast. I didn't want to steal someone's tape That's not what we do here, but you thought it Mike, right? Is he wrong though? He needs more dudes. I thought they needed more dudes back in May I thought they needed more dudes before anyone You so might take

Dan, Dan, did they have enough dudes? Well, evidently they need a dead man. They need it. They need it more Don't do what you're doing right now, which is boiling every bit of analysis that I have about that to dead men. I mean, you did this once when I mentioned Kendrick Perkins made a difference for Boston and you just, ah, you gotta let me know. You got ball sacked by the way.

Said Kendrick Perkins. Oh, I said on his show something that he ran on Twitter that was from like a big thing. He said Kamehra was seven, too. Yeah. I've been doing some. I've been doing some research on the draft. And when Bumyama, not good.

This is basketball. Yeah, first pitch wasn't good. But the hand explains it. It's hard to get a good grip on the baseball and you're holding a golf ball. It looked like that. Yeah, that's not. That's the picture you were talking about before.

His fingernails, if you were to paint his fingernails with nail polish, you have to use one little tube per nail, right? There's a few munguettes. I don't know. They're so big. I take your word for it. I don't. Mike Ryan has now had the takes on Wemmon Yama because he's going the other way on having

takes different bad. He's bad. Everyone else. He's going to get swept in the finals. I think he's going to get hurt. He's is a turnover machine and what do you think he shoots from three take a guess he takes a lot eight percent oh you think thirty percent i'd kill if he shot thirty percent man who drive that guy number one uh... he is not yet good from three just like yannis is not yet

good from three they can grow into that if you if like project his turnovers, especially to a much more competitive league, he has a shot. If they decide to make him a ball handler at the NBA level, he has a shot to be the most turnover prone player in the league. Mikey's 19. Yeah. He's going to grow into his body, he's going to grow into his mindset of how to play basketball, how to learn.

Cool. So from pop, like you do the forecasting. I'll tell you right now, this player, not good. You probably said the same thing about Janice when the B bucks drafted him. Yeah, he wasn't good at that point Forkassing I'll tell you what it is right now. You tell me what it's gonna be. I'll tell you what it is This is Mike Ryan Put this on It's gonna be on his tombstone that it's gonna read on his tombstone

You tell me what it's gonna be I'll tell you what it is That's a good thing on his tombstone you you tell me what it's going to be i'll tell you what it is you should play the good to the better trafficking it's a real truth teller's going to go on my to some you should you should make a bet on draft games it not his women yama gonna get hurt

will he be bad but that is already bad at basketball and he's going to be back the most surefire prospect since lebron the more the most surefire torn Achilles I've ever seen my entire life there it is there's that evil on him I'm not wishing that evil on him but that I mean I think you want him to fail you want him to fail I mean I just because I'm the only person with this plot of land yeah no I do want him to fail now because I'm the only anti-wembee guy

and you're thinking out your position early. What? I was right about Chet Holmgren's legs. I mean that Holmgren's- I was right about his legs. Okay, so just to be clear, just to be clear, your take now is that spinley 7 foot 1 inflatable car wash man might get hurt because basketball is hard and I think the Achilles might snap. That's your take. Yeah, it's a good one. It's a good one. I'm done talking for this segment. I mean, it is. It's a great take. It's a great take. It's indisputable that yes, if you look like poor Zengus, all those

joints and elbows and stuff, something might snap in your foot. Yes. Something maybe might happen. I mean, yes. And we. And we can't prove it. You will. It will. I guarantee it. And I understand. And when he's writhing on the ground because this great hope has dismantled in front of your face,

Mike Ryan's going to be doing a victory lap with a flag. I got it right. I was the first one who said anywhere that he was going to get a career ending injury. anywhere that he was gonna get a career ending injury.