The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: The Sun Will Come Up Tomorrow...If The Sky Doesn't Fall

Episode Date: May 30, 2024

Today's cast: Dan, Amin, Charlotte, Billy, Jeremy, and Tony. It's time to head back to WFAT to celebrate the total disaster around the New York Mets including Jorge Lopez (maybe) calling them the worst f****** team in baseball, the highest payroll in baseball, and some hijinks from the 1993 Mets. Is it okay to spray a water gun of bleach at media? Is there a difference between a firecracker and an explosive? Plus, Dan was blown away by the outpouring of love toward Bill Walton when he passed away, not just as the athlete but the human being he was off the court. We discuss Walton's impact and how he was able to overcome depression and physical pain to bring sunshine to others' lives. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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More like sexy phone. You feel like that sexy? You're feeling the sexy in that saxophone? It's aggressively sports radio. And this is a glorious day in New York when you can have the feeding frenzy around a team that's disintegrating. I'm going to get into some of the details

that happened with the Mets in a second, welcoming in Charlotte Wilder and Amin Alhassan from Oddball today. We will get to all of their areas of expertise in a moment, but I do want to celebrate what I think is the greatest day for Mets content since a season that involved the Mets many years ago having the highest payroll in baseball and a book was written about them the worst team money could buy and I believe some of the scandals involved either Brett Saber Hagan or David Cohn throwing bleach at reporters throwing bleach at reporters it was bleach in a water gun sprayed at reporters by Brett

Saber Hagen. Thank you Brett Saber Hagen and also Vince Coleman I believe threw an explosive at fans they were calling it a firecracker but it was not a fire cracker it was like closer to c4 than it was a firecracker. Seems bad. According to the LA Times it was a device similar to an M100 that was about seven eighths of an inch in diameter and it injured three, including a two year old. How did he get that onto the, did he throw it from the field?

No, it wasn't on the field. No, no, no, it was an incident off the field, but basically he threw a stick of dynamite at a two year old. Yeah, that's right. I mean, just so that, so since- In the direction of, not at. I don't think the two year old was the target, to be fair. I mean, just so that, so since- In the direction of, not at. I don't think the two-year-old was the target, to be fair.

Okay, thank you. And there's a thin line between explosive and firework, right? Put it on the poll, please, Juju, at Levitard Show. Is there a thin line between firecracker and explosive? Because it was reported as a firecracker, but I remember it as an explosive. What is a firecracker, really? It's an an explosive. What is a firecracker, really? It's an explosive. OK.

There is no thin line. What is it for? Is it a celebratory? JPP lost fingers not over explosives, over firecrackers. That's correct. You put a firecracker together, it's going to be a large explosive.

I think one of the Kennedys did, too. I don't know. Did it? Charlotte, not an excellent contribution if you don't know that and don't have anything to follow it either. You just had a random thought, you can keep some of those to yourself.

Straight Kennedy, you're like. Sorry I'm giving you content, damn. I'd like the content, I'd just like it confirmed and you to have more of it once you throw it out there and then immediately retreat because you don't have confidence in what you've just said. Well, I'll work on said. We're making conversation. There's a thin line between fact and fiction, Dan.

Thank you, Billy. You don't want to start doing that, Charlotte. That is the wrong ally for you to choose. You will see everything explode in your face one day and he will run away howling. Firecracker or explosive? I thought it was- One of those New Year's Eve,

brr, you know, you pull them apart and they explode. What is that? The party favor? The poppers? Yeah. But they don't make that noise, they just go... Hold on, yeah, they don't, first of all, they don't make that noise.

Okay, maybe you guys are using the wrong party favor. That's not an explosive, a party favor. It explodes. Hold on, Dan is saying this from a place of privilege, because for years, you wielded that weapon towards other people you never got shot with that thing did you what thing on highly question of the the confetti pop yeah, you are you are out here just gunning people down

well, I never shot it at any one that's not true in the direction of the head. Just like one of his comers but wait a minute I the confetti popper, it's also not an explosive, but the confetti popper had some kick to it, is the party favor she, what she's describing doesn't sound like it has any explosive in it. Well, if something explodes out of something. I mean, that's...

I tend to agree if it explodes as an explosive. But you're not a good ally for her to have. A balloon's an explosive. Yes, thank you, Billy. No, it is not an explosive. And if it explodes. good ally for her to have. A balloon's an explosive. Yes, thank you, Billy. No, it is not an explosive. And if it explodes. No.

Balloon pops, it doesn't explode. No, an explosive has to have gunpowder. A bottle of seltzer when you open it. Explosive. No, no, there has to be gunpowder involved. No, if you put Tums in it or whatever. Oh, Mentos and Diet Coke. Explosive.

That's pretty close, actually, to an explosive, but again. Mentos doesn't Coke. Explosives. That's pretty close actually to an explosive, but again. Mentos doesn't have gunpowder, Dan. No sale. Well. An explosive, technically according to the definition, is a substance which can be made to explode. So there doesn't have to be gunpowder involved,

but I'll tell you that Vince Coleman lit a small green canister after getting out of a truck that was being driven by Eric Davis with Bobby Bonilla in it around About 200 to 300 fans and then claimed that he didn't know anyone got hurt in the explosion But I believe Brett Saber Hagen as well. And if I have this correct the week Before or rather? Yeah the the week before he had rather, yeah, the week before, he had thrown a firecracker under a table near reporters. So he threw a firecracker at the reporters

and then a week later sprayed them with bleach. I gotta admit, sounds like a fun team. Sounds like a real fun team. He threw it under a table, not at reporters, that's safe. The bleach part, it's a wild choice. Maybe our clothes were dirty. You know, like just imagine covering some boring team that's losing.

No, you should go show it over, honey, how was work today? Oh man, you should have seen it. Brett Saberhagen. V Brett Saberhagen? Yep, the one from the scout, the movie that they covered on CineFob the other day. He lit a firecracker and threw it under our table while we're trying to like do our gamers.

We're all like typewriters and stuff I saw mr. Baseball mr. Baseball used to set people's shoes on fire while they were wearing them So this doesn't seem like that's a mild. Yeah firecracker. That's just good old-fashioned fun Yeah, just have a lot of questions about how you Set someone's well now they're wasted. It's just a hot foot. Isn't that what that's called? It's not setting someone's shoe on fire. It's called a crying buddy. It's called arson.

Put it on the poll please, Juju, at Levitard Show. Do you know what a hot foot is? Because I believe that's what it's called. Sounds like a dance from the 1950s. Come on, kids, let's do the hot foot. Do the hot foot at the sock hop. Oh, because socks. That's why I sock hop.

It does sound like that. Na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na. Hot foot socked. It does sound like that. On, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, on, hot foot everyone. It also sounds like Jeremy is saying that Vince Coleman rolled a grenade at fast. I was thinking that too. It sure sounds like it. Green canister, but grenades don't have a fuse

that you light, so that's the difference. Thin line. Yeah, you pull a pin. Bert Blylevin, yeah, Bert Blylevin, earned the nickname The Frying Dutchman because of the hot foot prank, because he would do Earned the nickname The Frying Dutchman because of the hot foot prank, because he would do it so often. The Frying Dutchman.

Oh man, what a time that was. What a time that was, man. When sports were just fun, just guys hanging out, having fun. Now everything is so, oh the business, oh. The contracts. The contracts, all the politics, oh, all this stuff. Like, God, this was just light people's shoes on fire

and we'd laugh about it. People just wanna split each other with breach. Damn it. What? Go sit in the penalty box. Don't get she's right. Billy, I need you to be responsible today, Billy. I don't need you to concentrate

on helping everyone else's anarchy, please. We've got a thin room in there. Please, just once in a while, don't do the thing that causes's anarchy. Please, we've got a thin room in there. Please, just once in a while, don't do the thing that causes more anarchy. Just to clear something up, Burt Blylevin. Do I have to go? Yes. Not Brett Saber-Hagan.

No. Billy, concentrate on playing the note that censored to the penalty box, because you're responsible for executive producing today. Please, choose one of the hocking noises that that sensor out of the room with great comedic timing so that we can do the show correctly today and BWFAT that garners us New York audience, not because I'm just filibustering, waiting for you to get the timing right on how

to executive produce a professional show at the top of your career. Dan's about to explode. Thin line between a firecracker and an explosive. Major penalty on the ice, five minutes for rambling. That's you, that's you. I'm penalized. Yes. Wait a minute.

These are labeled very, very poorly. No, no, you're still there. Oh wow. No, Dan's good. Five minute major. Bring him back. Brambling there. No, not rambling. He's just talking about garnering New York Nothing says penalty here. It just says major. This is a horrible labeling system on this thing anyway Like do you guys agree with me that that sounds like an arrow or like I wish I was covering a sport when guys were like

This I mean, I don't want to get sprayed with bleach. It's not gonna do anything to you. Bleach is fine. Is it fine? Yeah, I don't know if that's the case. Yeah touch your skin. Okay, wipe it off Exactly keep it. Hey, you know what frosted tips Jeremy? That's how we did in the 90s Just say guy with a spray gun next thing, you know In sync, that's what you look like. Do you guys remember Sunnin'? No. Sunnin' Law? No, Sunnin' was like a product

that people would put in their hair when they wouldn't like, yeah, like dye their hair. So they would put it in, and I guess there's like bleach or something in it. And then the sun would light in your hair if you had Sunnin' in your hair. Yeah. Yeah. Welcome back.

Thank you. That's the first time I've been replaced by Dan in the penalty box. I hit the wrong thing. Five minute major major the labeling here is all well a ride Is it a ride it doesn't say anything about penalty box anywhere in what did it say did it say rambling? It just says rambling major. It says ruining comedy major, but it's like all the way up That's probably ruining comedy for Charlotte two more minutes. No, Are you kidding me? That was funny. She misspoke. She misspoke, but I don't know if we have a misspeak.

That's funny. Isn't it funny when people misspeak? It is the funniest comedy there is. It's the funniest possible thing. The funniest comedy there is is one of your friends. There's nothing worse than making a point that you misspeak on, and then you have to completely disavow your point

and just walk out of the room, basically. Yeah, you have no leg to stand on. It happened to me the other day where me and my brother just got an ACL surgery surgery and we were talking about Alex Smith and how his ACL, he had like a thousand ACL surgeries because of a broken leg and whatever. And I'm like, your brother's injury does not compare to Alex Smith.

That's what I was trying to tell him. That's what I was trying to tell him. And then what I was saying was, the manner, and then I said the manner, like some sort of English statesman. What I was trying to say was the manner in which he broke it was different but I said the manner and then I was like all right I'm out of here I literally left the house and walked away drove my car and drove back home Charlotte I'm done yesterday

Dan was trying to make a point about the f1 race in Monaco and for some reason he pronounced it Monaco defense Monaco in Spanish is Monaco. Is that how they say it? Yeah. Is it? Yeah. Correct me if I'm wrong. Monaco is in France, correct? Well, it's its own little thing.

Yeah. It's located the south of France, but it is its own little thing. Monaco. How do you even say that? I'm not going to do it. I don't need to do a French accent. I think you speak the most French out of everybody here.

That's because it is. That's just because I look like I'm, because I it. I don't need to do a French. I think you speak the most French out of everybody here So that's cuz that's just cuz I look like because I have glasses on sometimes Glass on today. No, I don't which is why I can't speak French today Back streets back. All right Since the dawn of mankind We've cooked our food over an open flame and debated the best way to grill one thing not up for debate Grilling and beer always go together. But not just any beer will do. Whether you barbecue, text in style, or just celebrate Wednesday with burgers and dogs,

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The Fahs. Hey. The Frans? Fahns. The German version the Franz? Stugatz. I did not think I did not think

she could do better than the Fonz which was her initial offering but then it became the French television show Happy Days. This is the Dan LeBattar Show with the Stugatz. Dan, we're trying to get the New York audience. I think we might have hooked them a little bit

with this last couple of minutes. Well, I have the story that I want to get to. Tony, I appreciate you being here and helping me on the Spanish contingent, because, Lord, the Americans had some fun yesterday on Monaco. Monaco, that's how you say it in Spanish. No, but they crushed me from every angle and kept doing it, and I'm like trying to get out of it,

but there is nothing funnier around here than one of us getting a word wrong because then the piranha feed. But let me get to this Mets story that harkens back to the day when Vince Coleman was throwing grenades at toddlers. Yesterday, during this ridiculous season that the Mets are having,

and they've got a disaster on their hands because they've got fewer wins than the Oakland A's somehow. Their payroll is ridiculous. I think they have the highest payroll in baseball. I'm pretty sure it's north of $300 million, and they have a three-game lead on the Marlins for the worst record in the National Leagues. And if it wasn't for the trade deadline,

where the Marlins seemingly are going to dump everyone, they'd have, I think the Marlins would pass them. The Mets are a disaster. While having the highest payroll, their owner, who's also the richest owner in baseball, is also kind of telling everyone, yeah, we're gonna rebuild, which is why they got rid of Max Scherzer and Justin Verlander last year. They're a disaster. Steve Cohen spent all the money and made a big splash

and like you said got bought the free agents and it has been really bad and yesterday Juan Lopez blew another lead for them. They've gotten a lot of leads blown, and as he's walking back to the dugout, he hurls his glove into the stands. Do we have the video of that, or do we have to wait a second? Yes, we have the video of this. I'm sorry, it's Jorge Lopez.

I called him Juan for some reason. Same team, same team, keep him moving. But let's see this because Let's see what happens here, and you will see Lopez disintegrate Will Smith home run capped by a show a Tony home run Tony's first home run here at City feel You didn't home right here with the angels someone just got tossed by Ramon De Jesus. He wasn't. Who knows.

I think it was the third base on the. Yeah it was the Haysons. They know it says he's got a short fuse and he threw Lopez out of the game. That'll. I don't know.

He saved him. This ends up resulting by the way way, in him losing his job. He gets sent out of the major leagues. He was demoted after, I don't even know if it was this or the press conference after this, but he's disgusted with himself. He's disgusted with everything that happened there. And he threw his glove into the stands, and somehow all that video we played

didn't have the glove being thrown into the stands. Which is just, okay. There it is, there it is. So headed into that inning, it was a 3-3 game, and if you notice, when he was ejected, it was a 9-3 game, so things were not going well for the Mets in the eighth inning. You know what's funny?

Ejections in baseball are so different from ejections in basketball. In different from ejections in like basketball. In basketball, a player gets ejected, you hear the crowd go, either it's a home crowd, and like, oh, or it's a road crowd, like yeah! And in baseball, they're like, huh. No, it's just because there's nobody there. It's not, that's not, usually that would result

in a bunch of people booing. Can we see how high he tosses this glove? Because this was a very casual toss. Well he has to throw it over the net, remember there's all that extra netting now over the dugout, so he's gotta arc it over that thing. Shout out to Bobby Schmurder, that's a really good throw. It really is, he's got a good arm, he should be a pitcher.

I like everybody trying to grab it as if it's a fly ball. Mitch got a body like a week ago, right? Let me get to the press conference, please, afterward, because he ends up making all of it worse. And I felt bad for him here because he's doing this in his second language. And I've covered a lot of baseball players who are just terrified to do interviews in their second language because they get misunderstood or they you think they're stupid because they cannot.

They're worried about sounding stupid and here Jorge Lopez Says I don't even know what he ended up saying because there was a clarification and then there was another clarification But let's start with what he said Carlos Mendoza said that he understands the emotion but that that particular action of throwing your glove into the stands was unacceptable Looking back on it. Do you regret doing that? No I don't regret it. I think I've been looking the worst team in probably in the whole MLB so

You know whatever happened happened. So whatever they want to do it I'll be tomorrow here is they want me, you know, whatever they want to do. So I'm going to keep doing this thing, you know? So I'm healthy on whatever, you know, on whatever to do, you know? I'm ready to come back tomorrow if they want me to be here. So I'll be here.

And they did not want him to be here. And I don't know whether he got sent down for the glove throw or for the for the commentary there when you're saying you don't often hear we're the worst bleeping team in the league right? That's a little much. And saying you don't regret doing the thing you did that made you say they're the worst bleeping team in the league. But evidently there are some people saying that he meant to say worst teammate in the league that it sounded like worst teammate in the league. But evidently there are some people saying that he meant to say worst teammate in the league, that it sounded like worst teammate in the league. I don't hear it there, but because

he's doing it in his second language there was a clarification. Does the clarification make it any better or worse? Just to clarify what you said, just because I didn't fully understand, did you say Just to clarify what what you said just cuz I didn't fully understand you you say I'm on the worst team Is that is that what you had said? Yeah, probably look like Then that they were embarrassed by you is that what you Don't know that sounds like he pretty much knew what he was saying Objection your honor leading the witness. I'm kind of with him on this one. I Jackson, your honor, leading the witness. I'm kind of with him on this one.

I don't know what's real here about what he's saying, what he's trying to say, and I'm trying to help with the translation, being as gentle as possible, because I feel bad for someone trying to struggle through this in their second language, but I'm still not clear on what he meant to say. I think on the clarification, when he's being being asked did you say you guys are the worst team in the league it might be possible that he understands just worst team in the league so when

he says yeah probably looks like it it's the answer to that question not yeah probably looks like I said we're the worst team in the league I'm just not sure in this situation. It sounds like to me he said, like the clarification says, it's the worst team in the league but they want to blame me for like, oh yeah it's my fault we lost, it's my fault we're not good, we're the worst team in the league. I feel like it regardless of whether he said we're the worst team in the league the first time the second time He did say when that when asked are you did you say you're the worst thing he said probably yeah Like that's still saying you're the worst team. It's just saying in a different. That's true way

You know like I don't yeah The probably part gives him yeah, that's like couching. He's like I'm hedging like I said Yeah, look can I say right now is he wrong? He's like I'm hedging like I don't know. Maybe I said it on though. I could have. I said a lot of things. Can I say right now, is he wrong? Why are we going against this guy for telling the truth? Telling it how it is. When has that been a bad thing in this country and particularly in that city, this fine city where everyone tells you how it is?

How's your day? It sucks. How's yours? That's a New York way. And when he's asked are you guys saying you're the worst team in the league? He's like yeah. Well should I lie live or no will will will will choose this year i'm with you guy who got the was named as i was you or halo or halo but i just got

galo let me play in one of those let me play for the audience just a stream of assorted uh... sad metz announcers so that you guys understand what a misery it is to go to this ballpark this year. It's a battle. There's losing and then there's what's happening here and it's two different things. This is just gut wrenching.

It is and the fact that you're coming home off a bad road trip and you're coming home and you lose in this fashion. Next 11 tomorrow, once again, Sean Benai against Logan Webb. Our coverage begins tomorrow at one o'clock. And remember, the sun will come up tomorrow. Mm, will it? As difficult as that may be to realize. Okay, I feel like the most Mets thing of all time

is to have the highest payroll in baseball be horrible, have your own announcer saying the sun might come up tomorrow as it's- Will, will, he promised it. Well, but he couched it, he said as hard as, again, a little bit of probably. He promised, he promised, that was not probably. The sun will come up tomorrow according to,

was that Gary Cohen? Put his name on it ron darling and gary cohen have been very sad they've got an assortment of this that we can play keith hernandez to uh... three-run triple for mike is just a bit of seven to two san francisco chances for five times of the town fastball belt high out over the plate. Just couldn't get there. Boy oh boy.

Feels like the sky is falling. It has felt like that virtually every day for the last month. Good grief. I've gotta be honest. If the sky is falling, I'm not sure the sun's coming up tomorrow if the sky is falling with the sun even worse it has to have felt like that for the month for the month of how many games have they won in May the

man seven to be fair he said it feels like the sky is falling. You said the sky is falling. He didn't say for sure. Is that Chicken Little? I mean, no, Chicken Little said the sky is falling. Yeah, that's what that's from. He's saying it feels like the sky is falling. Chicken Little would be an amazing name for a baseball player. In like the 1930s. Yeah.

Chicken Little, up to the back. It'd be like a person that batted like this, probably. Like a wing. Yeah. That's why they call him Chicken Little. Yeah, exactly. Go on, Dan. But he's gotta be like 6'3", right? wing. Yeah. That's why they call him Chicken Little. Yeah, exactly. Go on, Dan. But he's gotta be like 6'3", right?

To be ironic. Fin though, Fin. He's a plumber. I would like to hear, now back in the 1930s, a woman wasn't allowed in the baseball broadcast booth, but I would like to hear again, Charlotte calling the at bat of 1930s. I don't know who Chicken Little plays for, I don't know who they're playing against.

The Brooklyn Bridegrooms, that's a real team name. Okay, ah, Chicken Little, the Brooklyn Bridegroom steps up to the plate. He has had an interesting season here. You could say it's been a wing and a prayer, Jerry. So the count is oh two, and Chicken Little, that's a swing and a miss. That pitch was brought to you by Brillo.

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while I'm breakfast flan, dun dun dun dun. Stugats. Have you never heard the breakfast flan song? No, hit me with it. Okay, I wish I had some breakfast flan. Dun dun dun dun dun dun dun. Breakfast flan. I had some breakfast, Flaunt. Da da da da da da da da da da. Breakfast, Flaunt. Da da da da da da da da da da.

Where can I find a breakfast like that? Da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da da. This is the Don LeBattar Show with the Stoogats. that met stuff and giving you guys the story of what happened in the 80s that I'm going into such a different time that it's not being absorbed how shocking it would be if I told you, hey, the warriors, they're falling apart. Do you know what happened? Dreymon sprayed reporters with bleach and Kaminga rolled a grenade across a parking lot

at a two-year-old. Like, if this happened today, do you realize how scandalous this would be? Dan, Raymond chokes someone 13 seconds into a game. Not the correct guy to use as an example. I'm just saying, spraying bleach at reporters is so aggressive, like fighting the media like that is crazy. What's more aggressive, spraying reporters

with a bleach spray gun or? A really naked choke to Rudy Gobert? 13 seconds into the game! I mean, when it's athlete on athlete crime, it gets received differently than when it's athlete on reporter crime. Like, if he sprayed Gobert with bleach from a squirt gun, that also would be shocking and funny.

But spraying reporters with bleach from a water gun is crazy. Maybe we get more fair and balanced coverage if the reporters got sprayed with bleach sometime. Caller, you're on the air. Some people think if you would have sprayed Go Bear with Bleach, we wouldn't have had COVID. Put it on the poll, please. It's very true, I've always said this.

At Levitard Show. We never had an 80s. Red Saber Hagen, great American, great guy. Trickle down bleach. Made sure that everybody in that dugout was clean. If we had sprayed Go Bear with bleach, would we have cured COVID? Put it on the poll, please, at LeBittard's show.

What a guy! Your Trump's not great. I know. Did he just start doing it? I wish he hadn't. It started a few months ago. I feel like a lot of impersonators can too Trump pretty well. I don't feel like he's that hard to do. I think you've done it particularly poorly.

You gotta go, what a guy, the most incredible. What a guy, no one's ever seen a guy like this before. That one's better than Means at least. It's not saying much, it really isn't. I wanted to get into something that Rex Chapman has this before. That one's better than Means at least. It's not saying much, it really isn't. I wanted to get into something that Rex Chapman has thrown into the content stream saying, and I agree with him, Bill Walton, when he died,

the outpouring was so impressive, and this part is super rare, okay? It is super rare when a Hall of Famer dies and the eulogy isn't about what he did to be a Hall of Famer like that's usually what we know is here's how this person was great that's how they were defined it's not with an outpouring that has love in it for who the person was beyond the play because I really do feel like the way Bill Walton is being celebrated is so universal and so soaked in love that it's about the person and not what you identify with the person doing in their career. It's just this was a man who was

colorful about life and it was enduring even beyond a Hall of Fame career. I have to say not to get serious on everybody but that the way that Bill Walton is being remembered has been very inspiring to me. I've actually, it's made me think, you know, how can you go about every day making every moment the best and having this impact on people? Because like that's, I don't know that I've ever seen, as you're saying, I've never seen anything like this.

And there was something really moving to me. And you know, he made me, he made me want to be better. It's super rare to have three days of coverage on a death hitting sports fans on a light going out on something that goes from really colorful to dark in a way that reminds you of your mortality but also makes you do things like what Rex Chapman is doing which is why didn't we tell this person these things all of these things when he was still alive and he was talking about doing in a live appreciation day for some people who are so beloved in this particular way

because it's not just about greatness it's about the energy you take around you everyday person to person that you're meeting leaving people with the impact of on bill walton when we were eulogizing him earlier this week i told you how remarkable it was that that person was able to do that while always in physical pain because all the people i know who are always in physical pain they don't have sunshine on them that they're distributing physical pain can be something that if you're involved

in your self involvement, you can feel that above all other things and it will affect how you treat people. Dan, to be fair, he battled depression, like serious depression. He talked about it a lot as pain testing his ability to be like present in the moment and happy and all those things.

So I don't know if Bill Walton was successful. But he presented. No, forgive me, forgive me. He was successful because the enduring thing that he left when in contact with others is you were not feeling that depression. I mean, he was, now whether it was a mask or not now the feeling he was leaving others with his an energy of positivity despite the fact i wasn't even talking early this week

about the emotional pain that he's at right the physical pain of thirty eight surgeries i don't know how that person did that i don't know how he was able to get out of bed in pain in the morning and go spread sunshine outside his house when he was in that kind of discomfort i wonder if that's partly why cuz he knew how painful things could be and so he felt the need to or not the need for compelled to make the moments that he could make great to make them great to to there's a preciousness to what he was experiencing because

you know i I think I think There are more people than you would think who are in pain whether emotional or physical Who go hard in the other direction in terms of how they present? Publicly because it's it's so dark inside. It's it's a way of bringing light in or bringing light to other people You think I mean he was not successful in this regard because I don't know how you define success when the eulogy or the obituary is soaked in so much. That person made me feel good. We're gonna show you a Mike Breen story in a second

that I thought was super moving, but when you say you're not sure that he was successful in overcoming that, am I misunderstanding what you're saying? I guess I wonder, you know, how many times have we heard stories of people who make everybody happy turn out to be profoundly unhappy? Robin Williams. Robin Williams.

Owen Wilson, who's still with us, but like he's a guy like, oh, he's funny, he's always a positive guy and all that, and then it's like, yeah, this dude was dealing with horrible depression and so you know I don't know I didn't know Bill like that. I knew he talked about it though I know he's talked about it very openly in fact about his struggles but I guess I wonder if they present in a way that just makes us feel better. Aren't they just making us feel better and basically further

insulating themselves in with whatever pain you're dealing with? I think the part with Bill that is the difference in some of these folks that we've mentioned is you know Bill away from cancer, not by suicide. And so in his own world, he dealt with depression, he found his coping mechanisms to come through that and be that light for everyone else, and he dies of this horrible battle with this horrible physical disease,

but it's partially the fact that so inspiring is that he didn't let his Mental diseases and hurdles be the thing that took away from him and took away from us It's impossible for me to know him well enough to tell you whether he was actually lonely or not, but it didn't seem like it Like it didn't it would seem with that kind of pain and that kind of depression that you would be alone with it even if you're around people but when he left the house he left an impact that is to me that the reaction to this has been startling it's three days and I'm telling you there have been any number of people who've died around here pieces of my childhood have been dying recently and it gets skipped over in the news because there's not time for plenty of hall of famers

i haven't seen what this reaction is where the human touch of this person was such that when you lose the humanity to death people are impacted in a way that we're still talking about it days later and rex chapman is bringing up what i think is a conversation i want to have which is who were the people you would bestow in a in in in both pop culture and sports right now with the honor of saying I'd love this person to know right now how much he means to people like I think Colby Bryant the world that he lived in because it was so competitive and because there was so much hatred around sports fandom my guess is that Colby

would not have seen what the outpouring was when we lost him feeling that way where even shack gets thought and changed by by wishing he had said certain things to colby while he was still alive let's play here the mike bream clip so that people can see what bill walton was doing when people weren't around with cameras and looking and trying to see who he was in public so my dad had parkinson's disease and it started to get advanced to the point where we were afraid he wasn't able to travel much he didn't really want to go out of the house much so my younger brother p

gave me a great idea he says before dad can travel why don't we take him out to san diego where the USS Midway is stationed as a museum. My dad served on the Midway during the Korean War and had not been on the aircraft carrier since he left the service. So we made plans to go, and of course Bill lived in San Diego, so I called him to get a hotel recommendation that was near the Midway. And of course Bill, it's like, you're not staying in a hotel, you're staying with me.

And I convinced my father and my brother and the three of us went, and we were gonna spend three days at Bill's house. And when we got there, first thing Bill did is he put my father in the Bob Dylan room. The bedrooms were all named after people that meant something to Bill, and usually that's something to do with musicians.

And the Bob Dylan room was a place of honor. So that's the first thing he did. Well, Malika, for the next three days, he did not leave my father's side. Wherever we went, wherever we ate breakfast or lunch or dinner, he was seated right next to my father. If we went for a drive in a car, my father was in the front seat next to him. And always like, John, you're next to me. John, you're next to me. Didn't leave him at all. And then when it came time to go to the, to the Midway, uh, we thought we're just going to go and buy tickets like everybody does who wants to go take the tour. But when we got there, um, Bill

had called in advanced and he called to tell them that, um, one of your heroes is returning and advanced and he called to tell them that one of your heroes is returning to the ship that he served on. So the commander of the midway is the one who greeted us and we went on for about a two hour tour and let me tell you, an aircraft carrier is no place for a seven footer, especially one with back problems and knee problems because they're small little areas. You've got a duck everywhere you go. And it was a painful walk for him. But he walked every step again, right by my father's side. And it was very emotional for my dad to go back. And there were a couple of times where he broke down. And so, of course, my brother and I got emotional as well. And then I look at

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