The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: The Terron Armstead Celebration Show

Episode Date: April 8, 2025

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Starting point is 00:01:10 Shadow show. Shadow show. Shadow show. Shadow in it. Shadow in it. Billy Gill. Yes? Look at what the cat dragged in.
Starting point is 00:01:22 Hmm. Oh. Hello. Oh. Hello. Hi. What are you doing here? Masters week. I've never seen a cat drag anything. You haven't seen them drag dead things into your house?
Starting point is 00:01:38 Would you watch the lightning series? Ah, yes. So masters week you're going to be off Thursday already I'm assuming? Yes. It's also off Thursday already, I'm assuming. Yes. It's also off for the par three as well. This is his only day. I saw the other day, I was stunned by this,
Starting point is 00:01:53 that VJ Singh withdrew and I'm like, really, he's still out there doing it. He is. VJ! Remember that, that was fun. You get an exemption, you play that thing. Yep, you do, forever. Right. He shouldn't be invited back.
Starting point is 00:02:06 That's a take. When's the last time he won it? He won it 20 years ago? Forever a champion. Yeah. I know, I'm aware of that. I'm not trying to take- Got a green coat, dude.
Starting point is 00:02:15 I'm not trying to take, it's a green jacket. It's a green coat, dude. But okay, well, who calls it a green coat? Famously never the green coat. It's not a green coat, welcome back. It's not a green coat. It's a green coat. It's not a green coat. Welcome back. Green coat. Famously the green jacket.
Starting point is 00:02:30 It's not a big... After you win one you call it a coat. I love you. Great coat. I miss you so much. A coat suggests that he would wear it down to his knees. A trench coat. If it were't green coat, does it not suggest that it would be twice as long
Starting point is 00:02:49 as it actually is? He won in the year 2000. So it's been 25 years since Vijay Singh won and when he withdrew and he was mysterious about it, it was a mysterious bodily injury. I was like, huh, how old is he? And then I went back and looked it up and I'm like, just early 60s. Golfers got her pretty good that way.
Starting point is 00:03:09 They never get too old. Like you get old, but you can keep being out there. Arnold Palmer and- Lee Trevino. Yeah, you can- Senior tour. Chi Chi Rodriguez is still out there even though he died a couple of years ago.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Except Tiger. Yeah, Tiger's the only one that's aging. He's struggling with it. Rodriguez is still out there, even though he died a couple of years ago. Except Tiger. Yeah, Tiger's the only one that's aging. He's struggling with it. Cody says we should give him a golf cart. It would be so great if Tiger Woods was allowed to simply go around in a golf cart and no one else was.
Starting point is 00:03:38 I feel like even the other pros would agree with that. He makes so much money for the tour. They would be like, okay, fine, only him forever. We don't want to make, we can't set the standard, but he can have a golf cart. Is Stugat's back because the stock market crashed? No, master's week. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Duh. We gotta get updates from David Samson. What's happening in a couple of minutes, what's about to happen on NASDAQ? What's about to happen to the stock market today? Where are we headed with this stuff? Is everyone terrified? I like the NASDAQ buzzword.
Starting point is 00:04:09 S-A-P. Yeah. Showing my business activity. Well, that's good. You just said it and forget it, right? Right, well what I- You can afford to. Well, what I like about your contribution to that
Starting point is 00:04:21 is your only contribution was to notice how little of a contribution I had not that's right Not to give me a better Conversation or to advance the story at all just to point out that I used a word One of the three business words. I know I know stock markets now deemed political Sounds so tired man Tired of all the winning This is the Don LeBatt Show with the Stugats Podcast.
Starting point is 00:04:50 I cannot wait today to get to all of the things that Stugats has missed over the last few weeks. One of the things that I missed last week while doing South Beach Sessions in California, torpedo bats, just inventing of a new bat. Did you catch that? Which story? Once I realized baseball had started, yes. I had heard about the torpedo bat story with the Yankees
Starting point is 00:05:21 and how well their business is doing, and it's a great story. It is, it's a great story it is it's a great store you're not gonna believe what buzz williams is he came in here dot saying excuse me that markel folds is a king that he learned that uh... they he just did a little bit of research or i guess the last couple of weeks last night and there's a lot of that right now especially as we get
Starting point is 00:05:43 as we start ramping up to the playoffs and teams are jockeying for draft position there are some starting fives out there, hand of God, like I maybe know two of these names. All right well I don't want to do a form of I saw this argument last week Shaq has become a bit of a bitter old grandfather and he's been for a while my time is the best time no one does it as well as I do. But now he is lamenting the state of the sport in a way that is aggressive and daily and Adam Silver is pointing out. I like the other sports where they seem a little more celebratory, where our media members seem to be enjoying things, but I'm having a hard time off of last night's game talking about what I watched positively. time off of last night's game talking about what I watched positively. So I'm gonna I'm gonna decline to do that for a moment I'm gonna ask your guys's help on how to frame last night's game which was really amateur basketball and at the end
Starting point is 00:06:35 that is choking that's what choking looks like everything that happened to Houston at the end they benefited from Duke choking and then they choked at the very end. But before I do any of that, Nothing Personals David Sampson is joining us from the aforementioned NASDAQ floor to give us the latest updates two minutes and 42 seconds into what has been a calamitous economic time. David, what do you have for us in the way of reporting on what's happened in the last two minutes to the American economy? I am so excited right now. I can barely contain myself because the market is going up, up, up, up. Futures, everyone's saying, look, the tariffs, everything's okay. There could be a 90-day pause. China's only got a pair of twos? What kind of cockamamie comment is that? I beg of you, please, do not now buy into the dip.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Do not buy into the flow. It's gonna go up, it's gonna go down. Why? Because every time Trump says yay, nay, or I'm gonna keep going with these tariffs, I'm gonna pause them. The market keeps moving. Here's what we don't want and what we have, volatility.
Starting point is 00:07:46 We've got so much volatility. We don't know what the heck's going on. So when you open your account and it says green today but red yesterday, don't worry, be happy. I don't feel like he gave us very much information there. Don't worry, be happy. I'm not gonna give you stock picks dan uh... it's okay but i feel like uh... i have some lebron sound here lebron is
Starting point is 00:08:09 being mocked by everybody on the internet for talking for a while while saying nothing and i feel like that's what just happened in terms of an update from you that it didn't have any real empirical information and it just had a lot of uh... flash paper and jazz futures are up though I mean that's good information only three minutes in but let's just listen to LeBron James saying nothing for 40 seconds what I did not know or you know what I did not have I didn't have enough accumulative hours put in on perfecting the process and that that, you know, my process was where it needed to be,
Starting point is 00:08:48 or even if I even had enough time for my process to be where it needed to be. And I was understanding and had the ability, as far as my capacity, to understand the process, to unlock the process, and then go after it. And just stay there, stay that course. This is the most relatable LeBron's ever been to me. I've done this so many times in my life,
Starting point is 00:09:10 I have no idea what they just asked me. I'm just gonna start saying words. Process, we're gonna get there, time spent. But Steve Nash was nodding like a bobblehead the entire time. What he paid to do, Dano. Like he understood. Like he was fluent in the nothing that LeBron was speaking
Starting point is 00:09:23 or Steve Nash has just been hired to not So God's Brad Moore Sean's on the Panthers don't get out of here. Yeah, man that happened Wow have they won since no We had an OT win. That was one. I mean a lot of guys are out right now No big games in March there are some things locally that I did want to talk about one them, because I don't know what you guys talked about last week, but I'm pretty sure you didn't talk about the retirement of Armstead. The Dolphins, Tyron Armstead, the left tackle of the Dolphins. And I wanted to ask you guys seriously, he retires at 33 at a time that Puka Nakua is saying, I'm gonna try and get to 30 and retire at 30. I think
Starting point is 00:10:01 he goes down as one of the best left tackles in the history of the Miami Dolphins and these things happen so quietly with offensive linemen that nobody ends up caring. He was hurt a lot, but when he played he made a difference. And when I ask you guys, Dolphin fans, best left tackles ever. Richmond Webb, people make an argument for him for the Hall of Fame. fame. Laramie Tunsell was here briefly, but what's the list look like? Because this, the idea that someone could give their body to this cause in a way that this guy did, right, he physically fell apart at the Scouting Combine Stugatsa, I think he had the fastest time ever for an offensive lineman in the 40-yard dash. He is an extraordinary athlete whose body, he was week to week every time he was playing because his body was falling apart
Starting point is 00:10:47 and you're surprised the chunks of his body didn't just end up on the field. So he quits at 33. But name all the left tackles that you guys were thinking were better than this person. The Selly? No, I'm talking about with the Dolphins. The Guadalajara Dolphins?
Starting point is 00:11:00 No, there are plenty of left tackles in the league that are better. Talking Dolphins tackles. It is the love blockbles in the in the league that are better talking dolphin tackles It is the one look. Yes. I mean Jake long was first overall pick but even he was a bit of a disappointment A quick scan of the internet. I'd say Richmond Webb is a top that mountain My larger point is a guy can give how many years to a cause and nobody cares and do it well and have his Career just swallowed by the general mediocrity of the Dolphins over that time. I think because of the injuries and
Starting point is 00:11:29 the fact that he wasn't here a long time that kind of... see Brandon Albert was actually a good player for the Miami Dolphins. He made a Pro Bowl, had left tackle, but he was only here for like two three seasons and I think that Armstead is in that class. Like oh yeah he was good when he was around. The larger point that I'm making though, is that excellence at that position is very often neglected and you play hard, damage your body and then leave and nobody really cares, notices, celebrates, there is no pageantry involved
Starting point is 00:12:01 with the ending of your excellence, it's just over. Unless you play every snap like Joe Thomas, because I feel like we celebrated that, but that was it. That's the only one we celebrated. But Joe Thomas was great the entire time. Never missed a snap. That's what it takes.
Starting point is 00:12:14 He was the best player on their team. How do you want us to celebrate Teron Armstead? Just out of, like, do you build him something? Make a day after him, a parade? What do we do to honor him? I want to answer the right way. Just talking about him. Like, just, just, just, just, he retires, something like a day after him, a parade, like what do we do to honor him? I want to answer the right way. Yeah. Just talking about him.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Like just, just, just, just, he retires mentioning it. He had a, he had a party, which I found interesting. You don't see that often. A big red carpet party. Who? Red carpet? Yeah, Mike McDaniel's hair is very curly now. Wow. So I saw that, I saw Drew Brees was there.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Really? Yeah, luminaries. There were luminaries whose careers have been affected by Tyron Armstead, really one of the greats of the modern era. I've heard Omar Kelly say that the only people Tyreek Hill listens to and respects on the Dolphins is Armstead and Tua.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Oh good. It's not a good sign. Well one of them's still there though. We've lost one of them now that he'll listen to. I don't feel like us talking about him is doing enough for him. Yeah, it's not enough. You think us talking about him is some sort of tribute. Yeah, it's not enough. You know?
Starting point is 00:13:05 You think us talking about him is some sort of tribute? No. And you're buying this Pooka Nakua stuff? Get out of here. I mean, seriously, Dan. 29 coming up in his prime, coming off a great season. You're telling me that Pooka Nakua at the age of 30 is going to turn down a $100 million contract to retire?
Starting point is 00:13:20 Don't buy it. He's not 29. He's 23. No, but when he's 29 29 he'll still be in his prime he'll have a great season someone will offer that man a hundred million dollars and he will not retire from the NFL. I want to retire at 30 is something a 23 year old says. It's also a wide receiver in the NFL usually at 30 everything falls off like for example Cooper Cup who's one of the greats in Rams history he just turned 31 P Puka's got several years to fall off.
Starting point is 00:13:46 I don't know if you guys have noticed this about the Rams, but it does seem to me, and this one's not empirical, it's just optical, so I may have this wrong. It seems like football is physically harder for their wide receivers than it is for all the other wide receivers who play in that sport. When I watch the way that he and Cooper Cup play on all downs and the way they block everything,
Starting point is 00:14:09 it really seems like their bodies are getting ravaged a little bit faster than everyone else's bodies at that position. That's a pretty good take. They do ask more of their wide receivers downfield blocking. They put a real emphasis on that in the scouting process. So I want you to look into why everyone hates playing playing then why every season there's someone threatening to retire
Starting point is 00:14:28 Instead of continuing to play for the rams or coach the rams or whatever. Oh, they're all full of shit They're just all trying to get more money. That's what it is. I mean, erin donald was legit Although he did draw it out like for a couple seasons. He did yes The dan levittard show with stew gotz is sponsored by Liquid IV. Guys, I just finished playing Hoops, went to the gym. That's how I show myself some love and love looks different for everybody, especially when it comes to all the ways to treat and celebrate yourself. Gift yourself the everyday indulgence of extraordinary hydration from Liquid IV powered by Live HydroScience. Visit
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Starting point is 00:18:14 Don Lebatard. Stugatz, if you give him the choice, Stugatz, you can have the very same thing one of two ways. You could get it honestly, or you could steal it. He'll always choose stealing it. Stugats. Well, it's the quicker path I mean, it's just you know, this is the Don LeBattar show with the Stugats Let's go back to David Sampson on the floor of the Nasdaq to find out what other Information is happening because he was very excited in
Starting point is 00:18:46 a way that I didn't think it warranted excitement. We are now 11 minutes into this freefall. What's happening now, David? Oh, there is a lot of activity. If you can see behind me, people are running around like they're betting pork futures. This is all about Mortimer and Lewis figuring out how to get the Duke. And the way to get the Duke is when you see what's happening with your portfolio, when you have an opportunity to get actually
Starting point is 00:19:09 back into a position that you panic sold. Don't do it today because it's gonna go up because what you're gonna see out of both the treasury, you're gonna see some indication about inflation, you're gonna see the possibility of lowered interest rates, you're gonna see a lot of excitement meant to boost the market because of what's happened the last few days has made staunch Republicans and people who are
Starting point is 00:19:31 in favor of Trump's tariffs say, oh, maybe I'm not because now I'm poor. So, what they've got to do is put some wealth back into the 401K but all of it is such to say it's a process. Does anyone here get the Mortimer and Lewis reference? He made it last week with somebody and the people started making fun of him because they thought he was talking about Lewis and Clark
Starting point is 00:19:54 and it wasn't quite that dated a reference. But when he talks about Mortimer and Lewis, you guys know who he's talking about. I know you do, Roy. Do the rest of you know what he's talking about? He spoke for 10 seconds on the front end. I understand what was happening Okay, but I was hypnotized by the shirt. This is one day that I'm hoping that the stock market tanks Just so David can lose his shirt literally. Yep. I
Starting point is 00:20:15 Was told I had to wear this shirt today I was told I look like a car rental salesman nothing wrong with that with my nice nothing personal polo But apparently our sponsors and loved ones said no more, you've got to wear the nicer shirt, and so here I am. Where's the nicer shirt? That's the nice one? Who told you? Wait a minute, there are people here bossing you around in your wardrobe? Like who's told you you had to wear anything? So we do have a wardrobe department, contrary to everything that people may see on your YouTube channel,
Starting point is 00:20:48 or at Nothing Personal's YouTube channel, and there are people who are sponsors who appreciate what we're doing, and they would like me to have looked a little more professional than my collared, amazing Nothing Personal shirt, so I had no choice but to dive into the well of what I was gonna wear tonight for dinner with you, Dan.
Starting point is 00:21:05 And so now I'm stuck wearing this all day. You look like a foot locker employee who went to play paintball. Yeah. Stu gots while you were gone, we learned that LeBron left the heat because Pat Riley took away his cookies. Get out of here.
Starting point is 00:21:21 All he needed was cookies. Well, Dan counter reported that it was actually ice cream that Pat Riley took away. Wow. I mean, that's on Riley, right? You got to it's the best player in the world at the time. He still is. That's pretty amazing. People were calling for his head. Wow. Riley did not take away the cookies or the ice cream says Dan, but Mario Chalmers came out and said that Dan was wrong. Rio. Yeah, it's been a back. It's been a big
Starting point is 00:21:44 back and forth while you've been gone, Stu, guys. Behind me, you see the celebration, the TikToking celebration of the University of Florida. I believe Dan Dacich said that that's the reason they couldn't be champions because they spend 20 seconds making a TikTok video, and I really do want help from the group on what it is that I witnessed yesterday because it was an abomination. It's not
Starting point is 00:22:10 just they're missing the first 15 threes, it's not merely that the referees called the game one way in the first half and in the second half decided to call it an entirely different way. It's not that both teams shot 30 something percent and that Houston's entire style of play is just throw the ball at the shot clock and go get offensive rebounds which is really hard to watch. It's not just that Clayton, who's probably the best pro on that floor, didn't do much of anything in the first, didn't do anything in the first half of the game and then at the end is being credited for winning it while going,
Starting point is 00:22:48 whatever it was, three for 11 and one for seven from three, just because you couldn't credit anyone else for winning it because it was Houston gagging all over itself at the end of the game. And a legendary coach in Kelvin Sampson, having nothing for the last two possessions. You cannot, do God have the champ that will haunt that program for the last two possessions. You cannot, Stugatz, have the champion, that will haunt that program for the rest of time to have the championship that close
Starting point is 00:23:10 and not be able to get a shot at the end and furthermore not call any plays going to the rim. Like not have anyone around the rim when all you need is two to tie, a couple of free throws is all you need. It was just really terrible, but someone's got to win the championship. And, you know, Houston had a close one against Purdue, but I think we can all make the argument that Florida, Duke, Houston, roughly the same. You keep throwing them at each
Starting point is 00:23:37 other over a course of time. You're going to get results like you got the last time that Houston played Duke and the last time that Houston played Duke and the last time that Houston played Florida. But did you guys enjoy the watching? It just seemed remedial. It seemed like I kept noticing. It was bad basketball. But shots, like shots just knocking the backboard and not hitting the rim and it's just terrible
Starting point is 00:24:00 basketball. That's men's college basketball for you. That's been my experience. Granted, I support like a really bad men's basketball team this year but yeah, you know, it's it's trapping lots of trapping and and and lots of missed shots. It's not it's not great but I will say I the thing I'm most impressed about is just the Florida program. As you know, the barometer for greatness is what's happened in
Starting point is 00:24:23 my lifetime and they're tied, I think, for second for most titles in my life. I mean, it's UConn, which is the top of the heap, and then a whole bunch of teams that are in that mix, and it's Florida. Florida's randomly a college basketball blue blood now. That is fairly amazing when you think about it. A team in Gainesville, Florida is mentioned in the same breath now because they've won three national championships and the only other programs to do that are like UConn, Duke, Kentucky and Kansas. North Carolina, like think about that.
Starting point is 00:24:53 That's who Florida will be mentioned with for the remainder of time. That's crazy. Novas I think are three. They have in this part of the century, they've basically done the same thing that the Miami Heat have done where they had the one team with the nuclear capability, you know with Joaquin Noah and Al Horford and Cory Brewer
Starting point is 00:25:15 That won two championships and then it goes a long time and then they win another championship and you get over a 25-year Period you get over a 25 year period you get three championships but yesterday's game and you tell me if you guys felt this the first thing that I thought about last night was this is the wrong game but we've already had the best thing that's going to happen in this tournament which is Duke loses that way nothing is gonna make the sporting public happier than watching Duke lose that way leading by six with 35 seconds left and somehow not getting to the game that we all wanted to see. Because I think that Florida and Duke would have been
Starting point is 00:25:55 a monster number, monster number bigger than last night's game. But then what ends up happening in last night's game that bummed me out is i didn't feel like that was about winning last night i felt like that was about how houston lost at the end because when you're talking about one shining moment it's generally not the same kid ammanuel sharp dribbling the ball off his leg and then not being able to get a shot off and looking fundamentally incompetent at the end of the game while kelvin samson stood and stared stoically and didn't have anything that looked like coaching going on in the last minute of the game i was hoping for a better payoff because uh...
Starting point is 00:26:34 i didn't really have much interest in watching florida win a title or potentially win a title but i did love saturday i thought saturday's final four was a great day of sports yes and one that that sport in particular really needed. Final Four's they're kind of a mixed bag and you had back-to-back really captivating games, teams that had win probabilities in the 90 percentile of find a way to blow it. I thought Saturday was a really great day for the sport. I really wish that they followed it up with a captivating championship on the women's side, too. I was hoping that they followed it up with a captivating championship on the women's side too. I was hoping that they followed their final four with a really dramatic,
Starting point is 00:27:08 I mean, you saw South Carolina go down, but that game was terrible. The championship games did not deliver this year. You think Dan Dockich will change his stance on TikTok now and be like, you know what, I was wrong. No. Teams can do TikTok dances. He seems like someone who's malleable and open-minded.
Starting point is 00:27:22 It depends on who buys it. I don't know what you guys are doing here. You had two 1-seeds in a two-point game. I mean, that's what you got. I mean, that's what you won out of the finals. You've told, you've heard me say before that because you have a close game doesn't mean that you had a good game. You just had stakes at the end. But we feel like the best team won, yeah? We had a final four that featured four 1-seeds. Well, I'll tell you that while watching that game, you say, do I feel like the best team won and yes based on what I thought before the game even though Florida was just a one-point favorite in
Starting point is 00:27:51 the game but having seen the game they didn't deserve to win that game I didn't see proof yesterday that that team was better than Houston they beat Houston Houston fell apart at the end but Houston led that entire game and when the referees allowed him to play Houston led by double digits and then all of a sudden they started officiating the game totally different the second half did not allow for the same physicality when they allowed Houston to be physical Houston was drowning look Florida's got the best offense in the sport they had 25 points at the half they've got the best offense in the sport I expect them
Starting point is 00:28:21 to get into the 80s every time they play but those were two of the top six defensive teams in college basketball this entire season. And you know what I always say, Dan, defense wins championships. I mean, I don't know what you wanted. You had a two-point game. It's Florida. I want a good basketball. The game police. Not a good game. Jesus. You're admitting yourself that all these teams were close. We're splitting hairs in a one-game sample. Sometimes the games turned into rock fights. I mean, it's not uncommon for a championship final to be ugly. I will tell you what it is that disappointed me at the end.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Even though we are now paying the players and we're distorting the sport, even though Mike says that he enjoyed the final four games, I didn't think it was enough to save the entirety of a bad tournament when you get chalk at the end and very few upsets and then the last game is a real atrocity that is something with stakes and feels dramatic but the punctuation of all i felt worse for a manual sharp than i felt good for anybody on the court i felt i felt terrible for a kid because the shining moment that I will have from that final is he blew the game in the last 35 seconds because they had two possessions
Starting point is 00:29:32 in a game that Florida rarely led. Florida had so many chances in that game to take the lead and then didn't. And it's just Houston kept screwing up, kept screwing up. And then in the last minute of the game, that wasn about defense Dugats it wasn't it was about one guy making bad decisions and there being nothing in the way of a play call or coaching that made it seem like Houston knew what to do in the last 45 seconds of a game in a panic situation. It's still gonna be remembered as Walter Clayton's tournament I think I would have liked a better final for him but when I think back on the tournament yeah it wasn't that great of a tournament but you had the Texas Tech you had Clayton's tournament, I think. I would have liked a better final for him, but when I think back on the tournament, and yeah, it wasn't that great of a tournament,
Starting point is 00:30:06 but you had the Texas Tech, you had Clayton have the best moments, I think, in that tournament, and I would have loved to have seen him cap it off with a performance in a championship game where you can just point and say, that was that kid's time. He had a nice second half, I mean, he did. Not really.
Starting point is 00:30:20 He made some plays in the second half. He's a hero forever. Stugats, he averaged 25 points a game in the tournament and in this game, what was he? Was it one for seven from three and three for eleven for the game? He made some free throws. Three and ten. He made he made some plays, but like yes, he wasn't as bad. Look, I don't want to keep doing this because it makes me the asshole. It does. I'm watching a game and I'm bothered by how bad the basketball is and i'd that's not the way that you should be celebrating a championship it's the
Starting point is 00:30:48 wrong it's the wrong way to celebrate the end of the season i know it is it comes out of our house i'll join you on your side of the fence come in the postseason time let's go back to david samson on the floor of the nasdaq and find out what's happened twenty three minutes into what is a turbulent american and global economy. We're about seven minutes from the open and what you are trying to look for right now is whether or not we'll get any indication of will tariffs be paused? Will China actually not just impose extra tariffs and not stand down to what the US is doing? Will they actually double down with
Starting point is 00:31:25 their pair of twos, which is what they say the United States has, will they double down and stop and hurt the Hollywood industry? Will they hurt the automotive industry? What will they do to make things worse that could drive the exciting futures that are up that in reality will go down? Reality starts in about six minutes because futures are not the conversation once the market actually opens. The bell will ring at 930 a.m. Eastern Time. I'm glad you said that
Starting point is 00:31:55 because I think some in our audience, perhaps even some on our show are learning that right now. I'm telling you right now that I thought it had opened at 9. I was of the opinion. It's like we're two minutes and 40 something seconds into this. Put it put it on the poll at Levitard show. Did you know that the Nasda opened at 9.30 and not 9 a.m.? It seems like an awkward time to start. Why does it start at 9.30?
Starting point is 00:32:30 Why wouldn't you start at either 9 or 10 or eight for that matter? You're gonna have your gators, cougars takes now for the stock market stock market start time? It just seems like, I had no idea that the stock market opened at 9.30 a.m. The rest of you all knew this. I'm the only one who's ignorant here.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Did they do a shadow show for 30 minutes? At 9 o'clock. Yes, at 9 o'clock. Cleaning up at 9.30. Ring the bell. Yeah. What is it called, Billy? The Dow.
Starting point is 00:32:55 Thank you. Yep. Do you care to give us all of your business expertise here? No. I'm happy to get whatever the room's got on what it is that's happened the last four days i told us to god sir uh... just before that he left i told him that i had put everything safely away in all of the safest most cowardly places the mattress because i was just so no no justin not quite the mattress that that seems less at the matters
Starting point is 00:33:22 honestly seems less safe than government bond It's the first place you would look right I mean the matter I mean if I'm searching for your money I'm going to your mattress Is it the first place that you guys would look if you were going to someone's house and looking for money is the first place? You guys would look under the mattress top shelf of a closet. Maybe maybe a wallet in a jar underwear sock drawer Whoever mrs. Mull Mueller keeps a peanut butter. Where would you go looking, Billy, where would you be hiding money
Starting point is 00:33:50 if you were hiding money in your house? Do I have a safe? That would be a good place to do it, but no, I'm not allowing a safe. You don't have a safe. That's a giveaway though. Yeah, we have them, get into my safe. Good luck.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Good luck getting into the safe, right? I would probably have a bunch of those fake Coke cans laying around, right? And then they'd just be in disguise with all the real Coke cans that are laying around and then you'd never find it. I have one of those in my fridge. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:15 What's in it? A gun? Three dollars. Oh. It's just a tip, a pizza delivery person. Why do you need to refrigerate money? I just like it, it was a good gag gift and the whole tower not ready to say goodbye to it. You never know when you need to refrigerate money? I just like it. It was a good gag gift and the whole hour not ready to say goodbye to it.
Starting point is 00:34:27 You never know when you need a buck. Thank you for bringing that up because I wanted to ask you guys something. There is a real mystery that I could not figure out while I was in Los Angeles, okay? I got an Airbnb in the hills and every day, every day I came out and for some reason in the backyard, in the bushes, in the pool, on the floor,
Starting point is 00:34:56 a single dollar, every day that I was out there, a dollar would fall from somewhere and end up in the yard. So much so that when somebody came back, like the gardeners came back and there was in a jacuzzi, there was a dollar that had been left there and I kept my eye on the person that was gardening there and he went in and he got the dollar and he took it and he put it in his pocket. What do you guys imagine was happening? I couldn't figure out. My guess was that somebody had a bachelor party somewhere and threw a hundred singles in the air and and somewhere they landed in your Airbnb. Every day four days. Please feel free to have a better theory than that. I know I
Starting point is 00:35:44 know that the subject the theme of today is for me to throw something out and you guys to say how wrong I am and to critique it But if you have a better theory than mine Please present it now because I couldn't come up with a better theory for how it is that every single day There was a different dollar that was falling from somewhere and there was no rhyme or reason to where it is that it was falling And so I could I didn't have any backstory. I was expecting one of the dollars to have some blood on it. Oh. Oh.
Starting point is 00:36:10 Well, it'd be a weird bachelor party. Was it the same dollar? Like, once the gardener stole your dollar, did you report him to? It was not the same dollar. I like your theory of there being a bachelor party in the hills and the wind just carrying some of these single dollars to varying homes below. Were there homes on a hill like above yours?
Starting point is 00:36:27 Yeah, there were many. Mansions? The homes? Money trees. I mean it was the hills, come on. You weren't on the highest hill, huh? I was not on the highest hill. Wow.
Starting point is 00:36:36 I was down below where- Status. Someone's getting a call. A receptacle for the dollars. I was down, down very low. I was infuriated by how low I was in the hills. But you were getting free money that was falling down from the, you know.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Not enough. Let's trickle down economics. Yeah. No better theories, no suitcase of cash somewhere. I couldn't figure it out. I was also- Valerie, f***ing with you. That was a great, I mean, that'd be a great joke.
Starting point is 00:37:04 Just, every morning, have one, Valerie with you that was a great. I mean that'd be a great joke Just Every morning have one attack just one attached to a fishing line. Yeah, it was like was it by the pool They were all just single dollar bills, right? What's your tipping point is maybe it was a trap to get you to fall in the pool like a prank was Ashton around Let's see how much money we can get Dan to walk into the pool for. And he pulls back. Because you're at that level of celebrity that the impractical jokers may have a go.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Well, they've fallen on hard times. Well, one of them in particular. Two of them. Put it on the poll at Levitard Show, have the impractical jokers fallen on hard times? Of their own doing. I feel like everyone right now is falling on hard times because of what is happening with the NASDAQ.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Oh, God. And we're open. Mixing an SMP. And as I'm in the airport, I will tell you this, you've heard me say this before, because I don't think there is a bigger issue that actually ends up dividing us more than the fact that day to day people are unhappy than the fact that day-to-day people
Starting point is 00:38:05 are unhappy about the fact that they cannot afford things and things are harder and harder to afford. I cannot get used to going to the airport, which I know is overpriced in every way, and paying $7 for a bottle of water. Like it's just, it doesn doesn't it doesn't register as anything in the realm of sane even if I could pay for that bottle with the dollars I collected from my backyard in California. Seven dollars for a bottle of water. I don't know where you guys have been most jarred by this.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Dan I have like one of the worst times in recorded history to have your lease expire on your car so I've been dealing with that for the last week. It ain't fun. The prices are insane. What's happened to the iPhone now is people say that tariffs are gonna make it so that the iPhone, that tariffs can make it so that Apple's business model
Starting point is 00:38:57 is in peril because the iPhone will go up to $3,000 or $3,500. Right, so like I've done a lot of reading up on tariffs as I'm sure a lot of people have. And why haven't we done these things? And why is a trade deficit good? Because I guess like the conservative talking point of trade deficits are bad, why do we have a trade deficit?
Starting point is 00:39:15 Last month the trade deficit was at $122 billion. Now there are some soft comforts of American life, like your iPhone being at a reasonable price. In 2018 there was an article written, why is the iPhone produced in China? Because if it was produced in America it would cost you $80,000. There are beautiful soft comforts as other countries try to protect their own industries by implementing a tariff. But just so you know what the math is, We've lost approximately close to $10 trillion in stock market value since the tariffs came out. That is to address a trade deficit
Starting point is 00:39:50 that is $122 billion last month. The math ain't necessarily math in here. David Sampson, nothing personal. You are our business expert. What is going to happen, for example, to the price of iPhones? And when Mike Ryan talks about a car lease expiring, I am reading a lot of reports that cars will go up
Starting point is 00:40:10 as much as $15,000 if we keep going the way that we're going. Yes, buy it. No, no, buy it. It's up, Apple. No, get it now. It's gonna keep going. Hurry up.
Starting point is 00:40:20 10 shares, please. Sorry, are we on? Yes. Oh, the market is moving. It's moving fast. We are up over 1700 points Wait a minute 1200 points. Wait a minute 1100. Oh god sell sell the Apple sell it ten shares sell it got it Do you see how crazy that is to be a day trader? Let's talk about the tariffs. Let's talk about what it means for your iPhone
Starting point is 00:40:43 Here's why people are saying it. Because what companies do when their cost of goods goes up, that means the cost to the consumer goes up. It is not about getting manufacturing jobs back into the US or doing iPhone production or shoe production or all of these things in factories in the US, because that's maybe five, 10, 15, never years from now. What it's about is figuring out how a company
Starting point is 00:41:09 is willing to either cut its profit or increase its prices to the point where people will still buy the goods. Mike Ryan's a great example. What is the price at which you will no longer buy the iPhone 17? Is it a $100 increase, a $200 increase? What is the point at which you won't lease another car?
Starting point is 00:41:28 My guess is the elasticity of demand for cars and iPhones is a little different than what Trump thinks, and that's why we're gonna head into a recession-like environment where people are gonna make choices not to buy. Wait to see. Would you be willing to say that if Apple is in any kind of economic trouble, then so is America?
Starting point is 00:41:48 No, it is impossible to correlate one company. People would have said the same thing about Kodak or about Blockbuster once upon a time. I don't give Apple that power, I don't give Tesla that power, I don't give Bitcoin, I don't give Trump, I don't give anybody that power. The world keeps spinning. The power is in the people, it's in your disposable income, I don't give Trump, I don't give anybody that power. The world keeps spinning.
Starting point is 00:42:05 The power is in the people, it's in your disposable income, it's in your wallet, it's in your choices, it's in your hand. David, forgive me because you know far more than I do about this, but Kodak and Blockbuster are not Apple. Never were Apple. So when you're saying Apple, you're talking about the technology that they have
Starting point is 00:42:25 and the addiction that we all have to using their products. If Apple disappeared tomorrow, we would all get Androids. We all get Google phones. We would find a way to change. It's all the people who are addicted to blackberries and rim technology. Please don't be surprised at what the human condition is. Yes, I'm addicted, and I mean addicted, but guess what?
Starting point is 00:42:47 I would lose this addiction. It's like the end of EdTV. When the show's off the air, life goes on. I don't think I could ever do Android. Never say never. Pay $100,000 to not deal with a green tax. I've been there, man. It's not fun.
Starting point is 00:43:01 Let me try this another way, David, because again, I am ignorant here but in talking to bankers and professionals and experts about what is the safest stuff to do that has the least adventure in it when they talk about the best stocks the Coca-Cola's the Apple's the Google's the Netflix they were talking about like six or seven companies that if they tanked, they were saying then everything has tanked. That everything, that there are six or seven companies
Starting point is 00:43:32 in America that if all of them end up in the toilet, then we're all in trouble. Yeah, I think you're being alarmist. I think that if you're looking to your investment profile at your age or my age versus someone who's in their 20s or 30s is different, you're going to have a higher allocation of fixed income. You're going to be in more bonds, which are obviously safer because you don't have the time horizon to take the ups and downs that happen in the short and medium term.
Starting point is 00:43:59 But in the long term, if you buy an index fund, which basically maps what the S&P does, you're going to end up better in 20 years than you would if you didn't do that. So Dan, I would just tell you, you shouldn't be looking at though it's doomsday, it's the end of the world, it just is a self-perpetuating way that leads to depression and anxiety. Instead, why don't you embrace the reality of where we are in the life that you have? you embrace the reality of where we are in the life that you have. network that has invested billions building 5G towers across the country. Not even once. Not even if Mr. Boost Mobile himself asked me to. There is nothing funny about it. Boost Mobile is now a legit nationwide 5G network and also provides coverage across 99% of America. Seriously. Visit boostmobile.com or your nearest Boost Mobile store location to learn more. The Boost Mobile network together with our roaming partners covers 99% of the U.S. population. 5G speeds not available in all areas.
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