The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: The Tua Stuff Is Weird, Huh?

Episode Date: August 20, 2024

Local Hour: Dan, Stugotz, Chris, Billy, Jeremy, Jessica, and Roy. So... that Tua stuff from yesterday... interesting reaction, right? Dan and Stugotz lead the crew through a conversation on the surprisingly polarizing conversation around Tua Tagovailoa, the public reaction to Tua's comments on Brian Flores, and why his style of play leads to people having strong takes about him. Then, Nick Wright's Top 5 QBs under the most pressure, and Mad Dog rips Hawk Tuah Woman throwing out the first pitch at the Mets game. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Shadow in it. Shadow in it. Shadow in it. I don't know, Chris, if you overheard some of what we were talking about around your father and his aging process and how it is that he becomes more and more discombobulated easily. Throw jury duty into his week and you've screwed up his week in a way. Just the idea of him having to make a phone call to find out if he has jury duty right will send his entire week off the rails he has a routine and part of that routine is not calling anyone monday at five o'clock

that's right not worrying about responsibilities and not knowing where he'll be tuesday morning it's something that leaves him really scattered but when he left here yesterday he's not here today because he was indeed called for jury duty, I cannot wait to find out where that ended up. Stugats revealed to me that as he left the studio, your father was muttering under his breath saying that he hopes that some people

don't come to his birthday party because he's invited more people than the boat can hold. I don't even know if that's true, but. His words, man. He's panicking about everything these days. This is actually good to hear, because I can't make it, because I have a previous commitment that day,

and I haven't figured out how I could say that, because we made a big deal about wanting to be invited. And then when I saw the date, I'm like, I can't figured out how I could say that because we made a big deal about wanting to be invited and then when I saw the date I'm like, I can't go. So I keep getting little nudges via whatever the app is that this invitation is from, from Chris's mom. Who I don't know well enough and I wanted to reach out and be like, hi Mrs. Cody, I have bad news for you. I have a work commitment that day.

I can't go to this party, but I don't know how to do that. You can just say that. I think she'll be fine. I caved in. You RSVP'd correctly. I know. That was crazy. Plus one.

Yeah, but you have to understand that him RSVPing doesn't mean anything other than he'll take up the space if he doesn't show up. Someone won't be able to go in the event He doesn't show up. I just wanted the text to stop. I mean I had to be honest your mom. Yes I'll be there. I'll figure out my way out afterwards. My mom's been Aggressively RSVPing people. Yeah. Yes. She's been it's been too much and your father is genuinely concerned that he doesn't have a big enough boat We're gonna need a bigger boat like they said in Jaws

Because he's invited there are too many people invited. And yesterday, I didn't hear this part, Stugatz and Greg were talking privately in this room about people he hopes don't come. That there have been—and I didn't overhear that conversation. That was the most private of the inner circle between Stu Gots and Greg Cody. I may have been one of them for all I know. I mean, when you have a boat that holds a certain amount of people and you've over-invited, you are hoping you have a list of people

that you are banking on that will not show up to your birthday party. And so I asked Greg, that's gotta stay between me and Greg. I mean, for now. But we know it's Chris' mom's coworkers. Yeah. He said that on air. Not saying anything.

I kinda wanna go with my dad to jury duty today. Can we check in on him a few times? I don't think you can. We'll just call him from the waiting room. I don't know, I just like checking in on him. I think you can. I don't think they ban phones in there. I was on my phone the whole time I did jury duty.

I'm on the invitation now, so you guys said you missed this and this is like a horrible decision by this company. There's a little button that says decide later for the RSVP. That's the one I clicked on. Not a yes, not a no, there's a decide later. I missed that. I was all over that one.

Well that's why she keeps aggressively sending you guys the text. You guys are all hitting snooze on our RSVP. This is the Don Lebatore Show with the Stugat's Podcast. Today's episode is sponsored by DraftKings. Stay tuned because you'll hear more about DraftKings and all it has to offer throughout the show. DraftKings, the crown is yours. I know you all know this. I know I'm not going to be surprising anybody with what is an obvious observation that has

been so for a while, but i think it bears noting nonetheless the tourist office weird man uh... it's super strange the way everyone reacts around to uh... in the history of south florida for me it's been lebron polarizing understood it

university of miami football team polarizing controversial understood it and it's too don't understand that uh... don't on he is a fundamentally decent person the history of south florida sports of the tantalum walker for tennessee jones of its shimal mashburns bunch of people where the hope resides on as he got enough that part i get what to uh... as he got enough is a good

enough for me to dare to hope but he's not arrogant he's fundamentally decent the people in south florida's history that that if created this kind of stir tend to be the guys who are actually lightning rods it's a lot of morning he looks like he's gonna spit at you at all times. This is a fundamentally decent human being

and the number of people that I heard from yesterday, Stu Gatz, that I don't normally hear from, veteran NFL people, all of them surprised because they're like, oh, the quarterback never does that publicly and that quarterback certainly doesn't do it. And so there was genuine surprise among cynical NFL types that were all like, whoa, he really needed to get that

off his chest about how poorly treated he was by Brian Flores. I'd like to give Chris some credit because I believe that his presence made to a comfortable. Wow, thank you. I agree. I concur. I gave him a little hug, a little dap,

right when he walked in. You're home here, this is a safe place that's what he felt well done a lot of this happening with coach Jason Brown of last chance you Maybe the truth hurts to and we've become so soft that these kids need sweet Nothing's whispered in their ears at an all-time high. Flores is a coach for men in the man's league. This is no longer that. Lot of people calling the guy who's risking brain injury soft.

Are they forgetting he played for Nick Saban? I know. He can't handle a tough coach. What's happening there? Like, how do any of you have the audacity to call someone who makes their living in professional football soft? What has happened to the discourse on the internet that this is something that people feel is in any way reasonable?

Because the amount of discourse and the amount of discord around this quarterback, it's not reasonable. Right. Coaches are funny, Dan, and fans reaction to how coaches coach is to me even funnier, but if you're a coach and you think you have 70 players and you could treat them all the same way, there's a blanket way to treat all your players, I got news for you. You're a bad coach. You have to learn what makes your players tick. What makes them thrive. What allows you to get the best out of a certain player and you're

hearing from a lot of old school guys because this is what coaches love. Hey, you have to go through some adversity. Hey, you have to be yelled at. No, you don't. No, you don't because perhaps by doing that, you won't. No you don't because perhaps by doing that you won't get the best out of me. If I come in every day you tell me how good I am you'll get the best out of me. People are different. People experience criticism different. Tua doesn't like it. I would say that most people don't like criticism. Athletes are better at handling it than most because they come

up through a pipeline of a whole bunch of coaches who are accenting their failure all the time. So they're better. The athletes in my experience that I have met are much better at treating failure as learning than other people who are... the average person is much more sensitive to criticism than the average football player. Yeah, but not all you can't make a blanket statement like that for all professional athletes. Some of them they'll

act like they like it. They're they'll act like they're okay with it. They want to fit in. They're a tough guy. I can take it. Coach is yelling at me but no inside dance. Some of them are hurting. They don't like it. They don't want it. It's not

the way they want to be coached. I am not saying to you that there's a blanket I can throw over all athletes. I'm simply telling you that through the pipeline they come up with, they come up through, they either get tough or they get weeded out because the criticism is nonstop. It's everywhere. It's correction. It's filed under growth and improvement.

I think they're actually better at taking criticism than being made fun of. Prime example being the SB Awards with Norm MacDonald. Yes, criticism is coaching. We can file it however you want. There's no disputing that the coach of the Dolphins now is willing to behave like an ally, and Belichick doesn't have a job because he taught people like Flores how to behave that way without getting any of the results because all those guys, Charlie Wise, all of his disciples behave that way and Belichick's not working

right now because somebody didn't trust him to do it that way. The part that was interesting to me is the need for the unburdening when everyone at Dolphin Camp knew all of that was so. They saw how it happened and Stugats, I would say to you anybody listening to this you come out of college you're a college kid you're put in the furnace of here's the most difficult position in sports, figure all of it out quickly and also your coach isn't on your side and your offensive line is the worst one in football and your receivers have the worst separation in the league. That will wreck a David Carr before he gets started. A number one draft pick gets ruined because the offensive line

can't block, the receivers can't get any separation and next thing you know his confidence is totally shot. And if you don't have confidence, you cannot play that position. It cannot be played well without confidence. And in Tewis' case, he didn't have the backing of his own owner. And a lot of people took issue with that. Like, hey, if you're going to take out Flores, take out your owner. He didn't believe in you either.

I feel like it needs to be said. It helps to have encouragement and have a nice working environment. It also helps to have Tyree Kill. You could believe in your quarterback and also if Tom Brady's potentially available, try to get Tom Brady. To Shawn Watson as well. Well, I mean, they were upgrades at the time. The owner didn't do the daily barrage of confidence sucking, Stu Gatz, where the quarterback is

giving voice to Imagine you get up every morning and you don't actually want to go into where it is you're going because you don't feel supported Oh, no, I understand that dad I'm just giving you some of the reaction to you know, what people heard yesterday and they're like hey if you're gonna take out Him take out your owner. He was going after Deshaun Watson and Tom Brady I don't think who's saying that Chris canny. I mean You're just what are you doing? Tom Brady. I don't think who's saying that. Chris Canney. I mean who you're just what are you doing? Evan Cohen. Okay so a show that you were listening to it was on all the shows this is a thing that ended up spreading and Armando Salguero

writes to a taking everyone behind the curtain and admitting something well chronicle that Brian Flores was not for him and actually was against him to the point of wanting him replaced will make some perhaps even even the quarterback, feel good about a painful chapter. But how does this unburdening help the 2024 Dolphins? The open road ahead is more important than the wreck behind. Only way bringing this up could help the 2024 Dolphins is if Two approves his rough time with Flo made him somehow stronger, which is what difficult life experiences often do for people.

Regular season is less than three weeks away. Make everything about that not three years ago. Tua knows what he's doing when he answers that question that way. He's lived in this pool of lightning for long enough that he knows what's going to happen when he calls Brian Flores a terrible person. He knows that Brian Flores is a terrible person. He knows that Brian Flores is today going to have to answer questions about that in Minnesota. He needed, I would say, pop-psychology, Stugats, somewhere in growing up with the contract and the safety of job security, if not the safety of your physical health in a sport that can leave you concussed. He wanted to shoot across the league. I'm here now and I don't keep my mouth closed

if something's bothering me. We were surprised last year when he went after Ryan Clark in a press conference, right? Because he doesn't do that. He knows what he's doing when he sits next to Chris Cody in those tight shorts. Comfortable. Nice shorts, buddy.

I'm wearing them today. He's the one who reveals himself. You wash them again? You're wearing the shorts again? They were in my hamper. Are those Viore? Yeah, they are actually. Nice. Big fan.

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Don LeBretard. All right, we gotta go back out there, that was big. Wake him up. Uh oh, he doesn't want to be bothered anymore. Now it's getting tense because he didn't need that as a result. He needs something that happens. Can we bother you right now?

Turn on your microphone. Greg microphones on. Stugats. Paint the scene. The paint the scene is I got to go to work. Good night. This is the Dan LeVatar show with the Stugats. A lot of compliments on your short shorts. Those are not short shorts.

I was expecting to be outside. I know you want to mention slacks. He told us the night before we were inside. When does Dan know exactly where we're going to be? I sent you pictures of where we were going to be. I saw those slacks of like, hey, we could be here. There's also an outside tent. I saw pictures of an outside tented area.

Chris has a point. It is camp, you know, you gotta go with a campy feel, campy look. Wait, he doesn't have a point. I mean, Dan sent us a picture the night before. It was inside, it was air conditioned, there were couches. It's exactly where we were sitting. I knew Jalen Phillips was gonna show up with short shorts,

so I was kinda doing a thing, as you'll see. And if you think the Tua thing made a lot of news, wait till you hear River Craycraft. Oh my God. What happened with you and your support system when you were maligned and dragged internationally yesterday for being on the couch in a way that was less than flattering? I actually got a bunch of texts from people

just being like, hey man, I watched the whole interview and you were good in it, you helped out. Like I felt like yesterday We drew a lot of attention to how awkward I looked in my shorts And I I added some value to the interview if you watch the whole thing you did. Thank you This is the support that you got from all over the internet my friends just being like you did good You brought good energy there. Yeah, but everyone agreed the takeaway was whoever put you in the middle You just put set you up to lose. That's a bad spot energy there, but everyone agreed. The takeaway was, whoever put you in the middle,

you just set you up to lose. It's a bad spot. Doesn't matter if you're hanging out with friends, whether you're doing an interview, there's never a situation where the middle of a couch is the spot to be. Listen, Dan, when you're guys like me and Chris, we're not the stars of the show,

you're the star of the show. It says the Dan LeBretard Show, according to the Dan LeBretard Show. What you need is a few close friends, just to send you a text, acknowledging that you were there. That you did something, that you asked a question, that you made somebody smile.

You need it, I needed it, I got it. Chris Cody left that interview lamenting to me via text, I really fell flat when I asked him to play the air guitar. That question didn't go anywhere. That part, yeah. He didn't have his regular guitar, so what do you do? You say, hey, if you don't have your regular guitar, play some air guitar for us. And it was as awkward as you could imagine.

So people are mad at Tua for being honest. And I also didn't realize Brian Flores has so many fans in the sports media and across the world. I had no idea. Because people are concerned about Brian Flores and the campaign smear that Tua laid on him yesterday. It's ridiculous. Give me a break. Do you guys not think this is weird? Can you just observe it from all of your different angles? Jessica, Roy, Billy? Do you not think it's strange the way people react to this quarterback. Unreasonable. Yeah, you know, I've learned people are gonna people. Yeah, there was people

peopling. It's what happens. He's a lightning rod while also kind of not really saying much. I mean he said it in this interview but before that he was like very... But why? He doesn't understand it and I don't understand it. Is it just... Can you give me a better... He's never won a playoff just, can you give me a better, can you give me a better theory than this one? Something more reasonable than what I'm about to say. Eddie Jones, Jamal Mashburn, Antoine Walker, these were players that were criticized, and at least in part because there were really high hopes,

Zo two Alonzo morning, really high hopes so to all on so morning really high hopes and you were always questioning whether those players were good enough to beat michael jordan and and they weren't and you know they weren't and so that was part of the polarization combined with their personalities in this case the dolphins have a season of hope for the first time this century,

because they have a good offense, he's the centerpiece of that. But you still wonder, would he look like that if I injured Tyreek Hill for six games? And you wonder it even though he's done okay when Tyreek Hill hasn't been out there. Well, that's the thing is that he's done just enough to keep everyone still wondering

and not 100% sure one way or another. Like usually by this point in someone's career, because there was hype around Tua and people were tanking for Tua until he got hurt and then he dropped. He obviously wasn't the number one pick. He fell to the Dolphins at five or whatever it was, right? So people wanted him to either be great or not be great

and he's been good enough so far, but you don't know why he's been good enough. Is it him, is it Tyree Kill, is it Mike McDaniel? I don't know. So I think people at this point are just frustrated because there's no answer right now as to who's right and who's wrong. And people wanna be right or wrong

and you still don't know is too good or is he not good and who wins this right or wrong battle. And we're like four years in now and people are tired of this battle. So anything that happens, they wanna either pounce on him and say, I was right, he sucks, or I was right, he's the best quarterback ever. And he gives you just enough to have both camps

still wondering what the answer is. And it was the same case at Alabama, right? Like, he came in surrounded by so much talent. We saw so much Tua on national TV after he throws a touchdown to win a national championship game in which he didn't even start And so there's all of this feeling of oh Tua was propped up by all this talent And now I think people feel the same with the Dolphins. He's the reason Jalen Hurts had to transfer to Oklahoma That's right. I mean think about that

the thing that he did though that wasn't there before is statistically the way we measure these things no matter who's responsible for it. When he was throwing the ball last season he was doing so quicker and more decisively than any quarterback in the league and he was doing it in all top five offensive stats that if I didn't give you the name and just showed you the numbers you'd be like that's a great quarterback if I and just showed you the numbers you'd be like that's a great quarterback If I'm just showing you the numbers, you'd be like I have no doubt about what this quarterback is

This isn't even Brock Purdy. This is a quarterback. You draft a quarterback top five and those are the numbers you get That's a quarterback who's a franchise quarterback. Well, yeah, and he led the league in passing It was a down year in terms of yardage and leading the league in passing But you have the out which the people that want to discredit him in, well it was Tyree Kill. Well look at the weapons he has. He's just throwing it short. Tyree Kill then gets all of the yak there. That's what the excuses are for everyone. That's not empirically true though on Tyree Kill. I mean facts don't matter anymore. It's just whatever people want to say is the argument

that they're going to make. And then then to in a sense doesn't help himself In the interview which is like one of the stranger admissions which didn't get as much play which was yeah We're just trying to get Tyreek 2,000 yards, which is like oh, okay But like also we should be trying to win a playoff game if we're the Dolphins not just getting Tyreek Hill 2,000 yards, but Dan is talking about why he's so polarizing you don't get get this reaction with Jordan Love. He just signed the same contract. I mean and the body of work is not what Suez is. He had eight games. No one said a word when Jordan Love signed that contract. In fact they praised the Packers. Good job. But Jordan Love also wasn't playing for the first couple years of his career because he

was sitting behind Aaron Rodgers. So there's lots of questions of Jordan Love. Even last year at the start of the season I think there were questions of Jordan Love and then he became one the start of the season, I think there were questions of Jordan Love. And then he became one of the best quarterbacks in football for the second half. And now he gets the deal and now you have to see who actually is Jordan Love. But if you're trying to find out what the difference is,

it's that Jordan Love went to Dallas and beat the Cowboys on the road and playoffs, right? That's it. And when he's out of the pocket on defense, you're terrified. He makes plays. And when two is out of the pocket, you're like, this is going to probably work out well for us on defense.

To the Tua and Tyreek Hill point also, you saw a point in last year's season where while Tua is leading the league and passing, and he's up there in all those numbers, the conversation is, is Tyreek Hill the MVP of the league? It wasn't even, is Tua? There was a point where it was like, well, Tua is maybe in the mix for MVP. And then it became, well, Tyreek Hill is the MVP of the league. It wasn't even his Tua. There was a point where it was like, well Tua is maybe in the mix for MVP and then it became, well Tyreek Hill is the

MVP of the Dolphins. Can I ask you guys about the psychology of this part? You would acknowledge to me, given the specific set of circumstances that had him contemplating retirement and his mother telling him that he should retire. That Tua has gotten pretty good at decisive risk versus reward in all aspects of his life. The choice to do this yesterday with what it invites Stugatz, it's so much easier to be quiet. It's so much easier to not say anything that could be a headline for any reason. It's so much easier to be quiet. It's so much easier to not say anything that could be a headline for any reason. It's what every other quarterback does. It's why veteran NFL people I do not normally hear from were like, holy shit, I can't believe

that position and that dude said that. If he's good at risk versus reward, do you know how seething the rage has to be about how he feels about what Brian Flores did to him for him to choose that risk, Stugat? Because the only reward is he gets it off his chest. There are no other rewards. What are the other rewards? There are none as far as I could see, but that's a valuable reward to get that off your chest. He's been holding that inside for a long time. I know people at Dolphin Scamp will say, hey, we knew about this.

He doesn't have to say it publicly. Stugazi hasn't for years. But it probably felt good for him to say it publicly, which is that's, to me, there's value there for him. Well, in the off season, he proved Brian Flores wrong by signing the deal, right? Like you had the guy that didn't believe in him that said you don't belong and he finally signed the deal.

So he finally, even with all the people questioning around him, in a sense, proved him wrong. And like, it's not a huge risky move for him because there'll be a little bit of, you know, talking about it yesterday and today, maybe, you know, they'll ask Brian Flores, whatever. But like, Brian Flores isn't at the top of his career right now. Like he's a coordinator. Brian Flores isn't at the top of his career right now like he's a coordinator Brian Flores isn't at the top of his game They're not gonna play the Vikings So he had a chance to take a shot at someone who was not a good person to him in his view and he took

It but it's not a big risky play because what are the actual consequences of it? The reason I say it's a risk is because other quarterbacks aren't doing it because they invite that this was Mike McDaniel was being asked about this yesterday's like I'm laser focused on this thing like it's all that distraction bullshit because we need to feed the content machine in August because football's around the corner and YouTube wants to charge you $700 for the NFL Sunday ticket. I'm telling you I'm thinking about going back to old school, in terms of consumption of football, Dan,

where I just get the CBS Game of the Week, I get the Fox Game of the Week. The old bunny ears? Oh, I love it. Yeah. Whatever game I get, I get. I mean, that's it. You don't want that? You're so full of shit.

If that happened to you, you'd be like, oh, this is great. You would never get the Jets. Saints Falcons at 4 o'clock, great! Yo, chicken thigh! I get every dolphin you get. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SH try to save money, you guys are criticizing me, calling me alive. I rent a different car every week. $345,000, Dexadrum commercial. It's high budget. Trying to save money, you guys are criticizing me. You're calling me a liar.

I rent a different car every week. Mark, that's not true either. Can you guys give me some more information on this Gaston Cherylus, the former first round pick in football, a very large man who was on a flight to Ireland and allegedly urinated on someone and the flight had to go back to Boston, which is really terrible for everyone involved.

That they would have to watch this former first round pick 330 something pounds, wander around, hit a passenger allegedly, urinate on another passenger, and they're like, turn it around, let's get that flight back from Ireland back to Boston. Is there a way they can vote, like, all right passengers, what do you think? Are we turning around here?

Like, what if I spit on someone? Is it any bodily fluid? I feel like if I'm a passenger seven rows back, I'm like, I'm cool with keep going. That's actually a fair question, but who's gonna, jurisdictionally, when you're in Ireland, who's gonna, like, jurisdictionally, when you're in Ireland, who's going to then, you don't want to arrest someone

in another country, I don't know, it just seems like a mess. Although it's the airport, I don't know. I just stand up in front of the plane, say sorry to everyone. This is a substantive crime. This is going to come with a great deal of headaches for Gostin Cherulis, if I'm pronouncing his name correctly. I want to ask the question because he's blaming sleep medication that he had not tried

before and I've talked about this before. Many years ago, probably 20 years ago, somebody got up during a flight and was so drunk that they took a crap on the service cart. That's a thing that happened and we talked about it on this show saying how drunk do you have to be to do something like that in front of people urinating on a passenger on a flight when there are these kinds of consequences I do think sleep medication can do that I do I want to give you wake up and urinate on people I want to give this person Make you wake up and urinate on people? I want to give this person the benefit of the doubt. I do believe sleep medication, if you get the wrong one,

can alter you, but I doubt very much that anyone listening to this is willing to extend that kind of benefit of the doubt to the urinator. You've never been really sleepy and gotten up and kinda walked into the wrong room and gone to pee before? You've done this. I mean, I'm not saying I remember it, but I've got some friends that, you know,

similar scenarios. I know someone that's done this. They like sleptwalked and peed in their closet. I think it was like my uncle. I have a friend that once peed on a computer keyboard. He was so hammered. Yeah. My daughter peed on me yesterday,

but it's because my mother-in-law put a water diaper on her instead of a regular diaper, so the pee goes right through. Those water diapers. What? A water diaper? I don't know what this is. Yeah, water diapers, you don't know what a water, you have a child.

Feels counterintuitive. So the water diaper, basically, if you pee in the water diaper, the pee pee goes in the pool, but it catches the poopy. Because then it doesn't have the little gels or whatever that absorb the pee pee when you go pee pee, so if you go in the pool with a regular diaper, those gels then become full of water. It would absorb the whole pee when you go pee pee. So like if you go in the pool with a regular diaper, those gels then become like full of water.

Exactly right. And then your pool has no water. I have noticed in my parenting years that when you're having a pool day with a big group of kids, there are just two ways of thinking. Like some parents lean into you can pee in the pool, and some parents are like, you get out of that pool,

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Cheaters never prosper. Stugats. I ain't cheatin'. This is the Don Lebatard Show with the Stugats. We were about to start with Stugats' day late weekend observation, but Billy piped into my headset with some breaking news. He is saying that Nick Wright is making a formal public play right now for the top spot in all of debate television because he has dared to go

where no person has gone before this off season. He has a top five list of the quarterbacks with the most pressure on them. I went there three weeks ago, I mean. Yeah, but you're not, well here's the thing, you know how there's Steven's A-list that he does every day and then there's Mad Dog's A-list? So apparently, Nick Wright has a segment

where it's called Nick Wright, or it's called Nick Makes A-list. So Nick also has an A-list that he makes and his list today is top five quarterbacks under the most pressure this season according to Nick. Can you hold on for a second because you mentioned, yes if just for a second just because you mentioned Mad Dog and he was railing against the Mets for having the hock to a girl throw out the first pitch. We're gonna throw in a girl there who you know went on a YouTube thing and in magazines telling you how to you know do an uh do a sexual function really? That's what we're gonna do.

On camp day, on camp day at a day game at Shea Stadium she wouldn't know Tommy Agee from Jerry Kuzmin. Yeah we're gonna let her throw out the first pitch. Nobody's gonna watch the Mets and the A's because she's thrown out the first pitch. This idea that she's gonna watch the Mets and the A's because she's thrown out the first pitch. This idea that she's gonna bring new eyeballs to sets. John, what non-baseball fan is gonna tune in after she throws the pitch to watch the A's and the Mets on a Thursday day in August? They're not doing that. So the idea that somehow some way you expose your team to a new audience is a bunch of

nonsense. If you're in Nashville, Tennessee, or if you're a country music star and you haven't caught the baseball bug yet, you're not going to catch it because she throws out the first pitch with a team that's 30 under 500 in Oakland and a team that's 500 when you're the Mets. That's not going to happen. Roy, what are you laughing about? She wouldn't know Tommy Ageger but Jerry Cushman. Well he's right about that. And he also, like listen, his point was made when he said camp day. Well, that's a great point. I didn't realize that when

we watched the clip originally. If there's a stadium full of kids there, that's awkward. I think I read that she was there like on behalf of like a pet adoption thing that she's like working with to get pets adopted. By the way, can I just say this about her? One, incredible that we're still talking about her a month and a half in. Everybody thought she has 15 minutes of fame if she waited way too long to capitalize.

The fact that this is still going on is incredible. Two, she seems like a great friend. Because I don't know what her brunette friend's name is, but her brunette friend that was in the video with her originally is at all of these things with her. Bad job by her that no one knows what her brunette friend's name is, but her brunette friend that was in the video with her originally is at all of these things with her. Bad job by her that no one knows what her name is, but she's in the background of absolutely everything that Hailey's doing.

Running around, she threw out the first pitch to her brunette friend. It wasn't even, she threw out the first pitch to Mr. Met, Miss Met, whatever. She threw it out to her friend, and her friend is everywhere with her, but she's the one that's not capitalizing, because no one knows her name.

I would read a long essay of why we call her Hawk to a girl and not Hawk to a woman because she is 22 years old. Yes, it's totally fair. This is something that we're guilty of. Like more than 1,500 words. 6,000 at least. 6,000 in New York?

Someone in high school. Get on this. All four years. Hawk to a woman is the correct way to say that. Hawk to a lady. Well done, Roy. Number five, Josh Allen. Really?

What? Ta-da! I wrote that down! Wait, so you've got your own list? Okay, so you agree with Nick Wright that you have- Hark to a pod! Yeah, but you have it number three there. No particular order.

I mean, I just wrote down five names number four Jalen hurts He's got it at number five weird thing to get excited about number three to a Nick wrong number two Brock Purdy. Yeah Number two Brock Purdy. Yeah Someone's above Brock Purdy Stugance has Purdy number one. Oh no particular order number one Billy Aaron Rodgers Huh, that is a good one

Can I get the sound of Salakata also going after the Haq Tua woman? The Yankees have Aera Judge and one Soto! Breaking records! Ruth, Maddow, Gehrig and the Mets have Grimace and now Haq Tua! Come on bro, I can't take it! I cannot take it anymore! It's ridiculous! And then you wonder why fans get so ticked take it anymore! It's ridiculous! And then you wonder why fans get so ticked off and upset! It's embarrassing!

Is it the biggest deal in the world? No, absolutely. Does it mean anything on the field? No, but that's the problem. The product on the field isn't good enough and you come up with these silly gimmicks that are laughing stock. It's a joke, Hock-Tua.

I think I just wanna talk about this the rest of the show Classics do gots move there of like just getting done with the rant. It's a got to Saying the name again. He's learned from the best. That's how you stick the landing right there That is a great job sit back take phone calls get a 20-share. I mean, I love it. Good job myself He really needs to not be that angry about every single thing There needs to be a dial gauge on that like turn it down to nine once in a while Sam and you can't ask for gas bag of the week sounds every week and then be like these guys are too angry I don't get gas bag of the week. That was a submission. Yes

Get Gas Bag of the Week. That was a submission. Yes. Gas Bag of the Week. I don't get gas bags. Congrats, there were two. That was great. Do we now vote for our favorite? Or how does this work?

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