The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: The Tyreek Hill Saga

Episode Date: September 9, 2024

Today's cast: Dan, Stugotz, Chris, Billy, Mike, and Roy. The crew is bouncing around like popcorn after Week 1 of NFL action, but is there any story bigger than Miami Dolphins receiver Tyreek Hill being detained outside of Hard Rock Stadium before the game? Dan, Stugotz, and the Shipping Container dive into the details surrounding the incident, the video that emerged from fans, and Drew Rosenhaus' hilarious defense of Hill. Then, the crew gets to the other biggest storylines around the NFL including Drew Bledsoe taking out Tony Romo, ESPN's coverage, Bo Nix's first start, Anthony Richardson's huge throw, and the Steelers being the Steelers. Plus, Jeff Darlington seems to be around every famous sports arrest these days, and he's here to detail how his reporting on Tyreek's detainment went yesterday. He explains the differences between Scottie Scheffler and Tyreek Hill's experiences with the police, why it's tough to immediately jump to conclusions, and why he and Dan need to rehash an old bet. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Shadowing it. Chris, did you hear any of Billy's broadcast for FIU football? Pause up. I heard about 30 seconds of it, and it was glorious. Thank you. Wow. Pause up. What was in the 30 seconds? What did you like? Well, actually, it was about a minute and a half where I didn't hear Billy, and it was glorious. Thank you. What was in the 30 seconds?

What did you like? Well actually it was about a minute and a half where I didn't hear Billy and I was like, did he lie to us? Did he not make it back from Kansas City? It was two people going back and forth. How many people were on the broadcast, Billy? Was it hard to get your voice in?

A three man booth. Three man booth. Three man weave? Yeah, it was a different three man booth than last year's three man booth. So we were all kinda trying to feel each other out. Jackson McDonald was Yeah, it was a different three man booth than last year's three man booth. So we were all kind of trying to feel each other out. Jackson McDonald was there, it was his first game. So I was also trying to be somewhat considerate

and not make it a miserable experience for him calling his first game as well. How do you manage? But that ends next time. Oh, sorry. How do you manage trying to not disrespect that they're trying to be respectful about football? I was just talking to Stugatz here and asking him how Kansas City was, and Trey and Mike

Golick go into football stuff, and Stugatz wants to talk to Trey about how hard it is to find the hairdryer in hotels. And so it's a bit of a balance. You're going there to be a court jester. They want your tomfoolery, but if they don't know you very well and they're respecting football too much, they might not like it.

Well, that's, yeah, that's like the, that's the line that I have to toe as they say. I will say this, and you probably won't believe this. I do a decent amount of prep headed into these games. Like I watched the coaches meetings for the week. I do a decent amount of prep headed into these games. I watched the coaches meetings for the week, I had notes on the different teams. I had a whole page full of things

that we were gonna go through. I have highlighted things in books. I have all kinds of Word documents. I had the media guides and the game notes and I had different things. Like I can tell you, Central Mission Chippewas, 123rd season they're starting this year. Big 123.

I think you could say it better than that. Central Michigan Chippewas. Well I'm on to the next game, I don't even care about that. Right, that was last week. And by the way, by the way, and you're not asking this, we had to share like a booth and there was a partition and the announcers, the radio broadcasters for the other school were on the other side

and I didn't bring this up on air and I wanted to and I didn't bring it up on the air. They were talking during the FIU alma mater and one of them went to tell the other one, you know what, like we should pipe down here, the alma mater is playing and he said, I don't care. And I was like, what did I hear across this partition? And then he went on to say something along the lines of, I'm ready to fight.

I didn't fight anyone this weekend. I'm like, this is a ridiculous conversation to have and I probably shouldn't fight an opposing broadcaster across this partition. But if I needed to show my Panther pride, I was ready. And I will tell you that right now, because you don't come into Pippel's house and do that. After about 90 seconds of not hearing Billy,

he finally chimes in with, hey guys, I have a suggestion for what we should call Pitbull Stadium. And anytime Billy has a suggestion, I like where this is headed. Well, I got in trouble earlier because I said a word I wasn't supposed to, apparently. We didn't go over the words that I can and can't say, okay?

And when you name a stadium after Pitbull and then you start saying, guess which Pitbull song is gonna be our Don't Back Down, I'm gonna guess a word. And if I'm not supposed to say that word, you should have prepped me on that. Anywho. He said that it should be called the culosseum.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Culo means asshole in Spanish. No, just ass. Well, no, we've had this disagreement before. Culo and culito are like a baby's ass. You guys are saying it. I'm saying it's the asshole. On an adult.

And Billy's saying it's just the ass. It applies to both. The culo is the asshole. In the culosseum, it would just be like a colosseum of butts. So they said you couldn't say that word? They didn't say I couldn't say it and I said it Well, that doesn't seem like a word. Why was that your idea because you're calling it? That's a good name stadium. Cool. Oseum is awesome. We gotta make this happen You can't make it ass stadium Billy. Why not? What do you mean?

You think of people love asses pitbull pitbull would love it called the cool Oseum. Yeah, the only one No, I would love it too at least two of us I love it called the Cool-o-Cium. He's the only one. No, I would love it too. At least two of us. This is the Don LeBattor Show with the Stugatz Podcast. Today's episode is sponsored by DraftKings. Stay tuned because you'll hear more about DraftKings

and all it has to offer throughout the show. DraftKings, the crown is yours. I know that everyone in here, Sturgatz, is bouncing like popcorn because football is back and they're happy that they got their football. And the football was okay. It was okay. I could do without that Steelers game for the rest of my life. I could do, you know, without the Carolina Panthers. If they want to secede from the NFLfl that's fine they can go somewhere else uh... denver's been playing a form of that game for five years bonix on forty two passes all of them two yards get out of here i don't want to watch you all

season you know when you get my attention what do you mean the season hasn't even started yet the guys arrested outside the stadium but you got my attention nfl it's three hours early i was waiting for three hours from now i'm gonna i'm gonna watch some football and here's the thing about innocent of proven guilty because i don't know what happened there will talk to jeff darlington will figure out we'll get some details

but here's the funny thing about innocent so proven guilty in this one situation if i told you before three hours before the game, hey, who's gonna get arrested? Any of you guessing Waddle? Nope. Like, if you had to guess and be right, not just with the Dolphins, in the league.

Like, one guy's gonna get arrested three hours before the game. And again, I'm gonna remind you that we don't know the details, and I actually think the more dangerous thing in that situation is short cop on motorcycle like that to me that to me sets off flares like with if the police officer is someone I can see when he pulls me over I'm more scared than if he's someone whose face I cannot

see because he's standing because that guy short guy with a gun that's got administrative leave written all over it really is that a role i mean it's my role i got i i don't know whether anybody else's role but if i can see it that this is what happened okay when you get administrative leave it's cuz you have time for the cover-up there's too much video outside that stadium

for us not to see all wait a minute minute, four motorcycle cops and one of them is really short. Now Tyree Kill, I will say, if there were a guy three hours before a game that I was profiling and I'm looking for expensive car and I'm profiling drug dealer, I'm outside a stadium. Most of these guys are going to be athletes. Who's the one that's going to look smaller than the rest? Like, Kaleius Campbell's going into the stadium. I know that's a football player. That guy's playing football today. Tyree Gill, I'm not... Nah, looks a little small. Kaleius Campbell's driving to the stadium in a big truck.

Yeah, the really nice car Tyree had. Yeah, but to Dan's point, you have no question when you see Kaleias Campbell that he is indeed a dolphin and he's playing football in a couple of hours. That's right. He was also detained. Yes, yes he was. For good being a teammate, being a good teammate. And I don't think it's necessary and this video here is damning boy. Tyree Kilt on his face on the ground, chest on the ground, they hit him some, correct, Roy? Yes, yes, he was complying, he was cuffed, he was standing and then they hit him.

And was there anything put in his back? Because this is scary, Stugatz, like this, this is a scary situation if you see everything that's happening in America and now you've got your your arms locked behind your back and you don't even think that a crowd of people can save you because there was a crowd around George Floyd and I know that's taking it out excessive but when you've got your hands behind your back and you cannot do anything and there's the physical force of people whose

motives you don't know about all of that is probably scarier to tyreek than anything he faced during the football game later when he had a hundred thirty yards and uh... it's the first time i get to cover the resilience of a home opener the team bounces back from an arrest uh... tyreek hill of evidently was speeding he can't go anywhere slow so he's speeding outside of the stadium is where this started and then we'll talk to jeff darlington here in a little bit about being the chef for about how we got chef lured and now darlington is the chef for reporter

when an athlete gets arrested jeff darlington will be there and he has seen what's happening yet that seems to be how that's going crazy i want to throw it out to the room what from the football weekend college and pro was more interesting than a player being arrested from? Before the game that the Falcons for me at least the Falcons thought whatever they trotted out there yesterday was better than what? Bill Belichick would have done The Kendrick Lamar announcement day is doing halftime at the Super Bowl in New Orleans There was a lot going on there was a lot going on on ESPN on Sunday just

breaking news breaking news big things happening. Yeah for me it was as it was about how good ESPN covered week one of the NFL season they made some changes to NFL countdown and I thought they had a really strong show it felt like some of the news was a little coordinated to get you hyped up, but then things started happening and on top of that, they had really good produced pieces. Alex Smith had one in particular. And so my most interesting thing that happened before the games kicked off was Drew Bledsoe totally flaming Tony Romo for no apparent reason. Parcells made the decision to yank me at half time of the game and throw Romo in there.

Really didn't agree with that one. If you're watching this, Romo, you know this is true. The minute that he became the starter, he became pretty big in his own mind. And he was no longer the curious, inquisitive guy. Where that was the difference between him and Tommy, Tommy became the starter. He still was asking all the questions where all of a sudden Roma was the guy that had all the answers Volunteered it he was being asked about mentoring Tom Brady and he's like, well, let me tell you about a bad experience And if he's watching, you know exactly what you did ESPN had a very strong day

I will say greenie really shined in that role, really polished host and he fits with their NFL coverage. Schefter had an all-timer. Hey, by the way, Dak Prescott, biggest contract in the history of the sports. Jamar Chase, maybe he plays, maybe he doesn't. Oh, Russell Wilson's inactive, but he's gonna be in full uniform. Just news after news after news and then the Rosen house interview It was a super strong well before I get to Billy and Chris here This was my single favorite part of all of the nonsense around Tyreek Hill It wasn't just

Drew Rosen house soaring back into my life I love drew for a lot of different reasons. One of them is that on PTI, they once asked him 15 years ago as part of Five Good Minutes in an interview question, do you have a soul? And he answered it totally seriously, but I just love that they asked the question.

Drew Rosenhouse wasn't merely back in our life because he's advocate and spokesman for Tyreek Hill and said purposefully I'm not here to make any allegations So he's not going to escalate the situation right but my favorite part of all of it is Drew Rosenhouse Everyone's got a ton of questions. Hey, it's a curious thing a star-wide receiver arrest wait right near the stadium How can not everyone know that they're wearing his jerseys over there? How do you not know who that is?

We saw it by the car. Everyone knows who that is. This is my favorite part. Drew Rosenhouse, we've got 1,000 questions for you. Civil rights, human decency, racism. He comes out, first of all, Tyreekke's gonna play. Your fantasy team's fine. Yeah. All you actually care about here is in three hours, is my bet safe and is Tyreke going to play? Because I need a hundred plus yards from him tonight. So right from the bed,

Drew comes out and is like, whatever you may be asking yourself, don't worry. He's going to play. Yeah. They tell you with opening opening speeches make the crowd comfortable with your first things that you say if you want people on your side don't know where this is gonna escalate to from here but Tyreek's gonna get you a buck-thirty comforted me I mean comforted everybody but then he gave us helpful insight like Tyreek is often telling me how much he loves and respects the cops. And he was apparently, according to Drew Rosenhouse,

in that moment, I don't know why he got such a hostile reaction because he was telling the cops, I want to be you when I grow up. He told the cops. He doubled down on that, too. They came up with that together. Because I don't believe that. But I find it hard to believe that Tyreke is going to retire from football and become a police

Officer but Drew Rosenhouse put that out there on his ESPN interview and then the postgame press conference Tyree doubled down and he said you know what I want to be a police officer. I have a trooper hat He'd be a great one. I mean Tyree gave a great postgame interview from the field It's just all absurd and everybody's eyes were locked in on him as soon as he scored, wanting to see the celebration because he knew he'd absolutely do something that'd be held against him. If this ever went to court, that was the celebration was great. Can we laugh at that? Was that on television though, or was it just a way and you had a,

you had to monitor socials to see it. It felt like, uh, the television broadcaster made a decision to kind of cut away and you had to monitor socials to see it. It felt like the television broadcaster made a decision to cut away as soon as he made it to the end zone, which I don't know why. Maybe they anticipated that, but you've got to get that shot if you're the producers. It's such a good celebration. And I will continue to go around the room asking you what was more interesting from the football weekend than this.

But let's hear drew rosenhouse say himself how it is that i really kill wants to be a cop the most important thing is tyree kiss okay physically mentally he was very distraught about what happened tyree kiss told me over and over is a big supporter police he was telling the police there i want to be a police officer in the future

Crazy, I've never seen anything like this Which is a regular thing yes It's what I want to do next every guy. I want to be a police officer I thought he said he wanted to be a porn star I thought that's something that he is also said well That's more believable would have been a strange thing to say to the car you could be a police officer in porn Right. I've seen that several times That is correct, but that's a terrible line to say to a cop when you're getting arrested, right? Well, I don't think he said it is what Billy's point is but you know, you're in Rome Dan

You got to tell the cop I want to be a cop You don't tell him you want to be a porn star, you know I I don't know what was actually said there. Perhaps Jeff Darlington, I don't think any of it was said in Rome. What in Rome? None of it was said in Rome. Definitely Miami Garden. Went on university, I mean.

Where were all these cops during Copa America? You coulda used them. And I will say, they've got this new fire lane around the stadium that blocks off a lane, very tricky. Stugatz, do you realize how absurd it is that the Miami Dolphins season started? And I keep in mind, Roy lives right near there. I grew up right near there.

We're not very far from what this area is. It is not a, I'm guessing there are not often arrests of any kind made on what passes for a highway in front of that stadium. Like that's not a place where people are regularly getting arrested. The idea that you're three hours before a game and somebody in the most expensive car you've ever seen, it's three hours before. You know what you're, there is nothing else there except a Walgreens and football on Sundays. Like they'll put Grand Prix there but it's not... it's by itself in a... this is not a dangerous area. There is nobody wandering around who's going to be harmed by Tyreek Hill.

And we've built it out. There's a Sonic now. Oh yeah. And a Walmart. Well there's the Seagrart. There's that strip mall and nothing else over there It was supposed to be a carnival It was supposed to be Wayne Heisanger was going to build the new Disney world over there was going to be a huge amusement park They didn't build anything there. There's nothing there and This particular street the only person who's going to be driving through their three hours early inexpensive expensive car it's not going to be a tailgater driving by themselves is going to be a football player your motorcycle cops paid to

protect that area to know something about what your surroundings are arresting this particular person and then getting physical with him and in a a Miami where only in-date is there for you because everyone's gonna videotape it and doing it all so poorly that you're on administrative leave before anyone can cover it up because everyone's already seen it before these officers get back to their motorcycles. You think if Tariq was driving around with his helmet on that it could have been avoided? I just love the guy in the car that stops in the teal and he's just like like he's gonna help. Hey, that's Tyree kill

You're drunk guy you're in a car you we know you have like a roadie We don't know that we don't know that it's 10 a.m. It's 10 a.m. And we don't know that game starts at 1 Billy and I were in Kansas City and they started at 5 30 a.m. For an 8 o'clock gate Is the most absurd thing someone has mentioned this segment? On a football Sunday It's 10 a.m. That the part that you guys are missing is not drinking at 10 a.m. It's drinking at 10 a.m. In your car That's the part that you seem to be missing passenger has the roadie Dan. I'm not saying the guy driving is drinking I'm saying the passenger someone there has an open container

saving a few guys are adorable. This is what I want people to know about the surrounding areas. Outside of actually on the football field itself, where Tyreek Hill got arrested is the safest place in the world for Tyreek Hill to be to avoid arrest. Like there's no, there's no time and place that I could put Tyreek Hill anywhere in the universe except for on the football field inside the stadium, which I'd like to see, by the way, somebody like subpoena him or something in the huddle.

Cause I think that's coming at some point. Process server. Yes. That's coming at some point. Dan server. Yes, that's coming at some point. Dan's completely right, but this is Tyreek Hill that we're talking about. You couldn't put it past them. If anybody could pull this one off, it might be Tyreek Hill.

The placement is what's so amusing to me about it. I'm assuming those motorcycle cops are getting this assignment, at least in part, because they like to be around football Sundays Maybe the other cops want to prefer to watch the game and not be working So there's some sort of hot maybe those cops are angry because they have to work instead of being able to be inside the stadium If you like football Sundays, what did it stand to reason you would take Sunday off if you're a cop? Yeah, but you may like football Sundays, but you also, keep in mind,

love pulling over rich black guys. I mean, I think we, look, the video is obviously damning and they suspended the cop or put the cop on leave, right? But we don't know what happened, right? Like, and it seems like we're just saying Tyree Kills should be able to do whatever he wants because he's a football player, which is not the message that we're trying to give.

Actually, what I said is player in the entire league most likely to have been arrested would be him just based on general disorganization, messy malfeasance in every part of his life. Yeah, just Tyreek, like what situation did you get yourself in now? And I appreciate it in ESPN's coverage. Rex Ryan was there like, we don't know what's what said it's hard being a cop. And then they kick it over to Randy Moss, who actually, I have experience. I've been arrested before a game. It was just great perspective.

It was a perfect storm of coverage for ESPN. Yeah, I laid an egg against Seattle when this happened to me. What? We got a guy for this. How? How you haven't all figured out ESPN. Howdy, folks. It is Mike Ryan. and over the course of our 20 years together, there have been a lot of changes.

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Any single thing that happens, she gets deliriously happy about. Don't you miss viewing sports through that prism though? Like, I'm envious of Lucy. Like, I wish that I could still be happy. This is the Dunn-Levatar Show with the Stugats. I can't believe Mike, I don't know if we can play this. We were, I have Tyreke Hill post game sound and I'd like to hear from Tyreke on the field

in his own words about what happened and i think it's been a roller coaster of a day for you starting on the way to the stadium a day filled with adversity how would you just describe your mindset coming into this game today so when i left home i told my wife i'm a company got a word and i'm going to get prepared for my day little did i know

that was quite a surprise on the way man but you know what and then they don't that I know that was a quite a surprise on the way man but you know what at the end of the day dog I got a job to do and my job is to come inside of this stadium and be great dog so. What did it mean to you for your teammates to join you this morning and show support? Bro I love that I was fired up dog to see Joe New to see Kalei's you know right there in the heat of the battle with me man. Let go just show that man it's more than it's more than about football dog like the brotherhood that we got outside of just football is amazing dog Cuz those dudes were like really risking their lives for me. You feel me?

So shout out to Joe new shot I call as so not the jukebox. So not everybody This morning, you know what I'm not gonna come in on any of that man like whenever stuff come out we we're the best in the nation man but look I'm not gonna come in on that we just gonna let by guns we can buy guns move on and learn from it that's it appreciate the time Tyree congrats on the win. This is a key and piece appeal sketch The season starts with the star receiver being arrested and I guess it's surprising but as soon as I heard it was Tyree kill I was If anybody can do it less less less surprising and I don't know what happened. I'm I'm gonna guess I think I can guess this fairly can I not

That maybe not maybe I can't but that it probably wasn't yes, sir No, sir upon arrival at stopping Tyree kill when he's trying to get to work because it's dangerous what he does and he kind of has to be amped up and and While I wouldn't hit security walking in here with do you know who I am, one can imagine that an athlete who does what he does as well as he does it might try to explain hey I got to get in there I'm playing today. Especially when you consider his affinity for policing. I'm certain he was thinking like because eyewitnesses said that he was going a bit fast and I'm certain he was thinking, like, because eyewitnesses said that he was going a bit

fast and I'm certain he was thinking, well, I could do that around here. Everyone knows who I am. Even the cops, right? I'm imagining when the cops walk up to him, he almost has a smirk on his face because he thinks they're going to recognize him. So he's like, hey, look who you pulled over. Where's Jake Paul? Who's pranking me?

It's possible this was just a giant misunderstanding because like, as he's pointed out, he wants to be a police officer. He's going to do that one day. So maybe what happened was that they came and then they didn't follow the procedure exactly. He was like, no, Mr. Officer, here's the thing. This is the way that we're supposed to handle the situation. I'm an aspiring police officer.

And then they didn't like that. And then one thing led to another and boom. Do you think it was yes or no, sir? Of course not, it's possible. I mean, I think their experience with law enforcement is a lot different than ours. And there's often videos of people yes-sirring, no-sirring, and it not mattering with police officials.

I will say, if I'm ever in a situation where I'm scared, I'm confused, there's police around, I'd be happy to see Kaleus Campbell coming out of a car to my defense. Oh my God, the size of his hands? And then he ended up on the ground too, apparently. I don't know how you. How do you cuff that though? I don't know how you cuff those wrists.

Do they ask him, can you lay down for us please? Cause we can't do that. Okay. By the way, if you're wondering, the thing I was most excited about, the Broncos had two safeties yesterday. Oh wow. When does that happen? Well, you know what? know what it's funny that you say that Billy because I

fell asleep during the four o'clock games with good reason, woke up Denver five Seattle three and said didn't miss anything. Hmm. Been not interested in that game for about ten years. It was one of those like math tricks that I was trying to figure out because like I didn't see the entire game but I was doing some prep for God Bless Football and I'm trying to figure out, I'm looking through the stats, I'm like, okay, so they scored 20 points

but Bonix didn't have any touchdowns, he had a rushing touchdown, how did they get to 20? And then I'm going through and I'm like, safeties! I didn't even think about it, I'm like, wait a minute, two of them? How do you get two safeties in a game? Stugats, the rookie quarterbacks were all pretty bad yesterday, Bo Nix will not, would not throw the ball down field, just worse than Brock Osweiler.

Right. You never see 42 throws for 130 yards, three yard average per attempt. That's not what you see in that sport. No, Caleb wasn't very good, although the Bears won that game. Jaded Daniels was okay. We haven't seen Drake May yet,

so I guess the jury is still out there. I was watching the Texans Colts game with Envy. That's what I was doing. Because those two quarterbacks, they seem to be the future of the NFL. I guess those two, along with Patrick. Well, I'd slow down. Most spectacular nine of 19 we've ever seen.

I'd slowed down on Richardson, but we all had the same reaction. What do you mean off the back foot for 70 yards? What? After a slip. What? What just happened there? Well, you say after a slip, CJ Stroud

converted a fourth and short, just went down to an eight, got back up, and threw the ball again. Like, fourth and short, everybody running after him. You mentioned the uh lackluster quarterback play particularly from the youngsters but i would say since 2019 passing is taking a downward trajectory there's a lot of great defenses in the league there were 61 touchdown passes in week one of 2019 52 in 2020 61 61 in 2021, 51 in 2022. But since then 37 and this week headed into Monday night, 33 that's about half of the passing touchdown production since 2019.

But beyond that though, congratulations, Mike Tomlin and the Pittsburgh Steelers, Stugats for winning a game with six field goals. Six field goals and how about this? These are four great drives. 10 plays, 31 yards. 10 plays, 18 yards. Nine plays, 24 yards.

Seven plays, 11 yards. So it's like fourth and short, well we're gonna get six inches and then we're gonna get 11 yards. So constipated. One and up. That's right. They played Kirk Cousins. Took out Kirk Cousins and all his money. Yes. And they're gonna be nine and eight. You know they are. What's better than Tim's Rewards Points? Two times the Tim's Rewards Points. Use Scan and Pay on the Tim's app from now until September 30th to earn two times the points. Pay, earn and redeem all with one scan. Only on the Tim's app.

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I want Travis Kelcey. I want Taylor Swift. I want the team that lost to Jordan Love. I want the team that lost to Aiden O'Connell. I want the team that trailed 17 to nothing to Jake Browning. That is the team that I would like to face in the playoffs. That's the team indeed that I would want to face in the playoffs because that team is not very good. This is the Dunne-Levatar Show with the Stugats. I'm sorry to do that to you. Retroactive. Darlington's here.

I mean, he's a famous reporter in America. He looks good too. Man, he looks like cologne. He looks like good hygiene. We'll get to Darlington in a second. Two minutes? Yes, two minutes, two minute penalty. Darlington, if people are getting arrested, Darlington is there.

It's weird. I don't understand why it keeps happening. He needs to get arrested with that. Yes. You've said that before. You've wanted him to look at me this by going to jail with Scheffler and ending up urging the police officer to throw Tyreek Hill and him in the back of the car. He needs to get involved with the arrest.

We'll get to that in a second but yesterday the Giants they wore those 1925 throw-up uniforms they were really unpleasant and Daniel Jones was terrible terrible and this stat from ML football since signing his hundred sixty million dollar contract with the Giants Daniel Jones has thrown more touchdown passes to the opposition's then to his own teammates and people waited outside of the stadium just for him to come out so they could do this to him yesterday I need a million! I need a million, Daniel! I need a million, Danny! I need a million! Give me a million! You suck!

So that's an unpleasant- Just rude. It's an unpleasant way to leave work. Can you imagine if we got that after the many bad shows I've had recently, just walking through the parking garage, exhausted in my face, you you saw give me a milli damn i'd hear the same thing said the same way but let's play that against the other new york hostility of the most famous

wailing from the gates of hell that we've ever heard jets fans doing it to tibbo You are pathetic! Thanks Mark Northwick! Stop! You are pathetic! You got talent! I'm f***ing discreet! These guys are a disgrace! Timo! Timo I want you in the second half! I want you to know!

Timo! Save us! You suck! You suck! Go to You suck Sanchez! You suck Sanchez! You suck Sanchez! You suck Sanchez! I'm sorry, a terrible mistake by me. That wasn't them booing Tebow.

That was them booing Sanchez and then giving us the punchline of Tebow save us! Which is a special kind of hell. Jeff Darlington is with us now. ESPN, as Mike Ryan told you, had a hell of a day yesterday. Just came out of the box blazing and right in the middle of it, near a sweaty Drew Rosenhouse,

near an arrested Tyreek Hill, was this dapper stud of a man. Look at him. Look at, look, he looks like television. Darlington, you used to be a newspaper person, but now you look like television Darlington. You used to be a newspaper person, but now you look you look like television It's a pull sellout Dan. It's annoying. I felt very bad for Drew I was literally distracted during the interview by how much sweat was coming off of his body

And I hope I asked the right questions Even though I really heard very little what he said because of the sweat. Is there any reason you couldn't have done that in a cooler place for Drew? He's being a spokesman for Tyreek Hill and he looks guilty as hell because of the amount that he's sweating. I don't think it would have mattered. Drew, honest to God, just had like run from across the street where Tyreek Hill was detained by police officers on a serious note,

like doing his clients work and like sprinting back. I don't think an igloo would have kept him from sweating. He was very sweaty. What can you tell us is the truth here, Jeff? The closest as you can ascertain it, not necessarily based on just what was being said, but what you were reporting. Well, I can't tell you the entirety of the truth yet because the Miami Dade Police Department

still has not said exactly what led to them pulling over Tyreek Hill. I asked Tyreek last night after the game why he believes they pulled him over. He said speeding, reckless driving, or whatever. That, you know, that's a pretty broad truth. I think it's the whatever I'm gonna go ahead whatever yeah I mean I think it might be speeding and or reckless driving but it's most likely to be just whatever whatever whatever whatever's fine into account

but that is the only answer that we need, that we have, the only question we have left. And I mean, obviously it's disturbing to see anyone face down on the ground in handcuffs. And obviously there needs to be some justification for that action. We do not know what the justification of that is yet. Certainly I'm willing to wait for Miami-Dade to release that information.

I was just speaking with someone there, a spokesperson who said, once it becomes an internal investigation, it really gets jammed up. I guess I don't envy his job, because now he's sitting there waiting on the investigation. But that being said,

that's a pretty significant question that needs to be answered, because like I said, if you're facedown in the road outside of your place of employment in handcuffs, that needs to be justified. Are you as cynical as me and saying to yourself, if we got to administrative leave before we even got to the cover-up because there were so many cameras there, that is an admission that somebody did something wrong there, even if they're gonna, if when it happens that fast with a police force, it's an admission before an investigation that's a little bit startling,

because I think they got caught, right? It's the videos there and you can see what's happening. Well, I, you know, honestly, so yes, and like, I know this is a very weird comparison to make. I do not make it lightly. I know there was a lot of jokes the fact that I was at Scotty Schaeffler's arrest. Like I saw that with my own eyes. Like I recognized what was happening there and it did not feel right.

It felt like it was going too far. I could see what was happening, what was going wrong. So I'm now in this position where, as a reporter, you don't want to take one situation and apply it to another. Everything is unique in its own circumstance. But it certainly does cause me to obviously be like, we need to find out exactly what happened and why it happened.

Kaleus Campbell, a man of the year for the NFL, stopped to try to basically help and figure out what was going on and ended up in handcuffs himself. That needs to be justified in itself. So yes, I am skeptical. And I think it's okay to be skeptical, even though we can also give the disclaimer

that we deserve to wait to hear the entire story. Jeff, you know, Kaleus Campbell, like this is, and I know anyone can be capable of just about anything and we can go, he said, he said on anything, but Kaleus Campbell is not, the Kaleus Campbell I know isn't going in there to fight. Yeah, but that's not his job. You can't approach a cop when he's arresting someone.

He listen to both of your points. He is a wonderful human one of the gentlest Giants in the world, but the police don't know about the gentle part when he approaches. I am not necessarily defending them. We don't know exactly what happened. I will say though. This is a I mean this guy is 350 pounds rolling up on a scene. Again, does that merit putting him in handcuffs?

I don't think we know yet, but I think we do have to understand from the police's side of this, they don't necessarily know that he is the NFL man of the year and a gentle giant. Again, it's almost an uncomfortable thing because, you know, we're talking about a police department and we're talking about the athletes we cover who we know very well. And trying to take the bias out of that can be a little bit tricky. So Scheffler was detained, Tyreek Hill was let go. What about being there in that moment, that close to not just the stadium, but the team offices and facility how did that help Tyree Kill in that situation because if he

wasn't Tyree Kill going to his workplace steps from his facility he probably does get sent back to a facility. 100% I 100% believe that Tyree Kill gets a right I shouldn't say that I again I need to not jump to conclusions based on one circumstance I will say that Scotie Scheffler had nobody out there representing him, but I was not representing him. I'm literally the only person out there. He's turning to me, someone who I've interviewed once. StuGott says you should have.

He should have been him. He should have been the prison with him. StuGott says you should have run into the fray. Yes, with your microphone, your brush, and all your TV lights, yes. Listen, I have plenty of friends who have said that it would have been better for my career to get arrested.

Dan, I'm trying to maintain some journalistic integrity here, you know, albeit as a TV sellout. But the circumstances, like you said, like he only had me out there looking to me saying, can you help me? A reporter from ESPN who interviewed him one time because I just started covering golf. Tyreek Hill had representatives from the organization

out there within minutes. People who are trained, not only just representatives, people who are trained literally to handle situations just like this. That is disturbing, a disturbing fact. Tyreek said it himself. What if I wasn't Tyreek Hill? Scotty Shephler was out there. There was nobody from the PGA out there. There were literally, I recall a police officer walking me across the street to the edge of the property line at Valhalla where I turned around and the police officer said to me, you need to keep going. And I said, I'm a credentialed member of the

media on private property. I'm going to stand right here. Yes. Private property guy. Yeah. I did it. I was. Yeah. You did it. Next time get arrested. I've been saying that since I was a teenager. I know I went full. I'm the media. The whole the whole thing they the police officer turned to a Like an intern out there in a PGA hat and said you need to get this guy off the property and that kid just looks It looks at the police officer girl. I'm not I don't there's nothing I can do here That's literally what Scottie Scheffler had out there representing him. That's what and he ended up going to jail Mike If Tyree had somebody if Ty away if he were six blocks away, he'd still be in jail I agree. Yeah, well, I don't I again. Well, he wouldn't agree

point taken Darlington still would have been there. I mean and Darlington would be reporting from outside of the jail. I don't know what happened to you, Darlington. Like, how is it that you're always around when people are getting arrested in a way? Like, it's not like there are that many arrests in sports that are like this and you've been right next to both of them. Yeah, I don't get that.

I mean, listen, when you're in a lot of places, like that's part of the job, things happen, but yeah, this is, I I don't, I can't, I cannot explain it. I literally said to somebody when I got to the stadium yesterday, I said, glad to be covering the NFL where there's, where we don't have to deal with arrests.

You know, I'm glad to be off the golf beat where it's constant arrests. Well, what happened, I want to know because we were trying to get you on back then and evidently- Yeah, that was a day. Well, but it sounded like your life kind of got turned upside down. No, I was just curious.

I'm like, it wasn't that. No, it was more that I believed that I am not. I know Stu gots is going to make fun of me and you probably will too. I just felt in that moment that I said everything that I knew on ESPN. And I felt like in this world that that should live as itself, as someone who literally witnessed it. I didn't feel like I needed to go on every talk show.

I am not trying to be like, oh, I'm holier than now journalist. I just felt like it could live in the moment. That's my sincere apologies for not coming on. You did say you didn't wanna make it all about you, and I responded, no, you need to make it all about you. I think that's exactly what you responded. Yeah.

Chris. You were one of the people that, like, you know, of the thousands of texts, you were among the people, like, my friends, who were like, you look like shit today. That's what a lot of people told me, because I didn't get to put my makeup on, you know? TV makeup.

Sure. That was nice of my friends. You were among, like, those people that I put my phone on silent. I just did my job. Just looking out for you, Jeff, that's all. Before you get out of here, Jeff, I don't remember, Mike Ryan was murky

and muddy on the details. I think I owe you after a lost bet, I don't remember what the lost bet was that you have to tase me. Did we not agree? I do. What was the budget? What was the bet and when are we paying it now that I'm free for me as PN's liabilities We can actually do this. I was that the reason we didn't do it. I felt like it was one of those

Tom Brady It was one of the things Tom Brady going to the Bucks. I Don't remember. I don't remember what the bet was. It was either Tom Brady leaving the Patriots. Yes. I think that was it. That was it. That was what it was.

Or it was me saying Tom Brady was gonna go to the Bucks. But I think it was Tom Brady leaving the Patriots. Okay, I don't think it was either of those things. I owe you it. Like I don't know. I'm pretending like I don't know. I'm pretending right now like I don't know but I'm pretending like I don't know I'm pretending right now like I don't know It is searing in my brain

Darlington I'm trying to do the thing darling Do you after talking to everybody do you feel see here's the difference between like a columnist and a reporter and you don't want to? Be holier than thou journalist. I'm not asking Jeff Darlington the objective Now, journalist, I'm not asking Jeff Darlington the objective, unbiased reporter about this. I'm asking Jeff Darlington, who has come through journalism in Miami and views the world through the prism that he views it in and knows what happens with cops and black people

and Miami, I'm asking you what you think happened here outside of what you're stating objectively. I go back to my own experience with, which is all I can do, a white golfer and what I saw the police do with him. It's certainly like not lost on me that this was not a white golfer outside of Hard Rock Stadium So if that can happen there, I think that I mean, I'm not naive to the way the world works

But I also refuse to Just simply say at this point That there's no we need to we I'm not trying to be the holier-than-thou. We need to know more We I mean like this is not an accusation by any means but there's pedestrians on that road. How fast was he going? What happened? But I stand on the fact that if you have anybody, black or white, face down on the ground in handcuffs, you have to be justified. It has to be justified. I don't care who you are, who's there to defend you, where it happens, what your job is, you have to be justified to put someone in that position.

Thank you, Jeff. Appreciate the time, sir. Thank you, guys. It is super weird. You gotta admit it's super weird that Jeff Darlington is in the place where both of these things happen. What's the third thing like this that's happened recently?

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