The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: They Have A Plan!

Episode Date: March 10, 2026

"The Wizards are a good team." Tony wonders aloud where the hell MLB has been hiding O'Neil Cruz, which corners Jeremy into a prediction that groups him in with your ol' pal Dave Dameshek. But mor...e importantly, the Dolphins made a decision at QB, and it's someone whose last name might make you say, "What you talkin' 'bout?" The crew reacts to the Dolphins' finding their QB of the future, Malik Willis. Today's cast: Dan, Zaslow, Roy, Jeremy, Mike, and Tony. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:25 Where are you guys been hiding this guy? I mean, Dan, standing next to him, I'm looking at him, I'm like, this dude could play power forward in the league. That's how big he is. He's massive. They have him at 248. He's not 248, by the way. It's like 260, 25.
Starting point is 00:01:38 Easy. But everybody in the Dominican team, I'm looking at him like, damn, Sandy's huge. Holy shit. Albert Pujols is huge in a different way. Well, the reason he's been hiding is because he's in Pittsburgh. Ah, he's a pirate. Sneaky good team this year. Put it on the poll at Levitard show.
Starting point is 00:01:54 That's not true in any way, Jeremy. The Pittsburgh. Couldn't make a wild card run. Pittsburgh. Really good pitching. Pirates are never any good. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:02:02 Let's come back to this and game. 162 and see if they're sniffing around that wild card race. Put that next to the Washington Wizards playoff run of next year. File that one away. Yeah, these predictions that you guys make that no one's going to remember because... You didn't say they were going to make the playoffs? I said they were a good team. They're on the right direction.
Starting point is 00:02:19 And go through that file and please throw away any of the Orlando magic takes that I had from a few months ago. Dave Damashek will hold me to it. I'll tell you that. He's been talking to me about the Pittsburgh Pirates since January. I wasn't alone with those magic takes, but I'll take the fall. You weren't alone. But Tony, you just corrected yourself.
Starting point is 00:02:34 on what you alleged to have said about the wizards by saying the wizards are a good team. They're not a good team. Oh, I said they were heading in a good direction. No, you just said a second ago. He's not wrong. He's early. Thank you. You said a second ago that they were a good team.
Starting point is 00:02:51 It just came out of your mouth. It wasn't not there. It wasn't a good direction. It was, I'm listening to what you say. You're not listening to what it is that you say. You said, that might be fair. I don't think anybody else was listening. to you either, from what I can tell.
Starting point is 00:03:06 But I don't want to talk about the Wizards. I don't think, Jeremy, I want to talk about the pirates. Either is O'Neill Cruz named after Paul O'Neill? Because his father was a major league. Roy is nodding his head vigorously. Yes, I didn't realize that you were watching Pirates baseball this way. But Roy seems to know that this is absolutely so. I was asking the question.
Starting point is 00:03:29 I'm not sure so. I believe I heard that on M-O-B-The-show last year's edition of I love that. As like a tidbit? No, thank you, Boo Chambi. You just retained it? It just stayed there in your head somewhere. Yeah, I thought it was interesting.
Starting point is 00:03:44 And so Tony comes in and is like, where have they been hiding this guy? Meanwhile, you know his entire family history. This is the Dan Levatore show with the Stugats podcast. Over the years, as the audience has heard my encouragement, increasing exasperation with how strong an instant takes have gotten, okay? And I really don't know how you can have a very strong opinion on Malik Willis, but I am seeing a great deal of very strong opinion on both sides on the dolphins getting Malik Willis. It's hope.
Starting point is 00:04:31 That's part of it. It's also encouraging that they actually have a plan yesterday, 24 hours ago, on this show when I was saying, I thought that Malik Willis was where it is that this was headed after they waived. Tua, you had mentioned that people were talking about Arizona as his favorite destination. They have the better skill players. Tua ends up in Atlanta now. They have the better skill players. But the opinions on Malik Willis range from Chase Daniels saying, quote, Malik Willis is worth it all for the Dolphins. He was on his tip. The film is so much better than you think timing, timing, touch, and anticipation.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Mina Kimes says he's got a cannon, incredible dual threat quarterback. Incredible is very strong. But here's Dominique Foxworth on the other side of this. This isn't the best option out there, but of the available options, it seems like he's going to have a legitimate, like, chance to prove himself. Like, the problem is this team feels to be obviously in a rebuild and they're hampered by, like, the big dead money on the tour contract. And he's going to be limited.
Starting point is 00:05:40 Like this team is going to be limited. The expectations are going to be a little lower for this team and the support that he enjoyed in Green Bay when he had those few successful games with the past couple years. Like that's not going to be there. We're not sure that Bobby Sloick is a good officer coordinator. We haven't seen Waddle carry this offense alone.
Starting point is 00:06:02 H&, we know it's an explosive big play. are running back. The offensive line has issues. The defense has issues. And like we started with the offensive coordinator. You have a first time head coached. The offensive coordinator is unproven. The more I examine this situation, it might be the best that you're going to get if you only have a small sample size like Malik Willis. Zaz, what is your opinion here? I think they went from super boring and definitely going to be terrible next year to very interesting. Like the Dolphin fan now every single week has something to watch, hoping that this guy is going to be their franchise quarterback
Starting point is 00:06:43 and that they found a gem at a very good price. I mean, the Dolphin fan has never, like Tanna Hill was able to run a little bit, but not like this. Like the Dolphin fan has never witnessed a dual threat quarterback. They've never had the guy who can run and make the fun explosive plays. Yeah, it's Snoop Huntley for a little bit. Okay, what are you doing there? Feeder was sneaky.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Pat White would like a word. But the other side of it for me is, man, like I thought this front office was going to be a little bit patient with this rebuild. This is not patient at all. This is very impatient. No, no, I don't think this is impatient because they're in handcuffs, right? You can say it's a good contract because it's essentially two years, $45 million. You can get out from under it if it's a mistake. But you're paying for the quarterback position next year about $19.
Starting point is 00:07:33 million dollars because you've got so much dead cap money in Tua and because of that dead cap money you have to align it so that if this is a mistake two years from now you're okay you have to get someone cheap because you're paying a lot you're not you're paying
Starting point is 00:07:49 at quarterback more than the chiefs are paying Mahomes by a good amount because you've got two quarterbacks that you're paying a lot next year and in a salary cap sport while he represents only like Malik Willis represents only like 7% of your salary cap which is where you'd love to have a great quarterback at value.
Starting point is 00:08:06 The amount you're paying Tua makes it so that this front office is in handcuffs. And this is the best of the available options. I would have preferred Kyler Murray, but a guy coming into a system with people that he knows is something that does create that hope you're talking about. A couple of things that I want to point out, though. He couldn't beat out Will Levis in his first two years at Tennessee. He only had 92 dropbacks in Tennessee and was terrible in Tennessee. Tennessee, couldn't beat out Levis.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Now, people are excited about Green Bay, but that's a conservative offense, okay? That's a run-heavy offense, and they had a good offensive line in Green Bay. So he was very good down the field. In terms of explosive plays, people have run the analytics and say, if you take the sample from him in Green Bay and put it out over the entirety of a season, it's the best quarterback in the league because of how he throws the ball downfield, throws the ball downfield accurately. but I just don't know how you can have very strong opinions for a first time starter in year five, who's taken all of 302 snaps in five years. Loads a bad tape at Tennessee.
Starting point is 00:09:13 And that was a huge Malik Willis guy when he was at Liberty, touchdown connection with C.J. Daniels. Like, he was awesome at Liberty. And I thought he was going to be one of the best pro prospects. And he went in to the league, got opportunities with a bad Tennessee team, admittedly. And he straight up could not throw the ball. They did not trust him to throw the ball. forget downfield. They didn't trust him to throw the ball four yards. And he was available for Green Bay on the cheap for a reason. And it took him a while in Green Bay. I think they traded a seventh for him, right?
Starting point is 00:09:42 It took him a minute in Green Bay, and he started because Jordan Love's been in and out a little bit, but last year was really encouraging. And a testament to that being a development position, him learning the NFL a little bit, and those numbers downfield are really impressive. In terms of hope and the Dolphin fan perspective, you're really excited that they had a plan, they executed it quickly. You thought that this year would be a wasted year. No, you actually got one of the top two quarterbacks available.
Starting point is 00:10:07 You have hope in the front office because they executed it. to plan and made Miami somehow desirable for a top two quarterback, and you have a big variable in Malik Willis that could go either way. The ceiling's really high with him. Are the dolphins falling into a trap that Miami Heat does to other teams where they're like, we're going to develop this guy who's going to be really good for us, but then when you get to your team over there and you pay him a ton of money, he's not going to be that good, right? Like, are we worried that Green Bay's development system? And obviously, they don't do free agents. They don't do trades. Like, they draft and they develop. Like, that's their MO. And it's like, is that happening with Malik Willis? We're going to
Starting point is 00:10:39 get here, he has none of the skill plays around him. Like, oh, who is this guy? I really like the point you made about, Dan, about the timeline with essentially it's two-year contract. It matches up with the two years that the Dolphids... It's really limiting the position that this management
Starting point is 00:10:55 team is in as janitorial workers trying to clean up this particular thing. But it lines up with the two years that they're at a major cap deficit because of Tua, and then you can kind of either... Then you have multiple options. Like right now, the only option would have been, hey, hopefully next year we get a good draft pick.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Now you'll have two options. Either you like Malik Willis or you'll decide to eventually go into the draft. There's not a lot of precedent for a quarterback who for four years has been a backup extremely small. It's not like you got six, eight games. Recent precedent because this used to be how quarterbacks looked all the time at the beginning. It'd be the most normal thing in the world for a quarterback to have to wait five years that's a lot to learn the position. But the way that he looked in Tennessee is how my experience with young quarterback before the last seven years has always been. And I also think something
Starting point is 00:11:49 that's interesting here is, and another bad position that this management team inherits, the single greatest advantage that you can have in that sport since Russell Wilson was winning the championship in Seattle is you get a good quarterback cheap so that you could build the rest of your team. This is the opposite of that. Not because of Malik Willis, but because of their quarterback situation, they've got a ton of dead money tied in not being able to know whether they still have a quarterback or not. That's usually something that will shackle the entirety of your franchise. You kind of need him to be great, and there's nothing to suggest that he's got the help needed on offense to be great. I want to read you some of these numbers because I
Starting point is 00:12:37 want to get your opinions on whether or not you guys pay attention to some of the advanced metrics. This is from both ESPN and NextGen stats. ESPN is saying his numbers, Malik Willis's numbers, outrageous in Green Bay is what they're calling them. And 86.3 QBR, 9.2 yards per dropback, a plus 7% completion percentage over what is expected. Those stats would rank all of them first over the past two seasons among QBR qualifiers if he did it over a larger sample. And he generated 0.38 EPA per drop pack across 24 and 25 with the Packers. That's the most in the NFL. He throws the ball downfield, but I don't think the dolphins could get downfield without
Starting point is 00:13:25 Tyreek Hill. Do you? Do you think the dolphins can get downfield without Tyreek Hill? Has Waddle proven to you that he's a deep threat without Tyreek Hill? He is, yeah, and he has. He did play on this team, some without Tyreek Hill alongside him. That's his game. I mean, the thing with Waddle is, can his frame hold up?
Starting point is 00:13:45 So wide receiver course bad right now. I mean, I haven't watched a Dolphin game where I haven't seen Jailen Waddle limping to the sidelines and being worked on. I don't know if his body's built for this. One more stat from Doug Claussen, what Malik Willis did in his only start last season. first quarterback all time with an 85% completion percentage, 13 plus yards per attempt, and 60 plus rushing yards in a game. First quarterback since Michael Vick in 2002 with 100 past attempts, past touchdown, rushing touchdown, and zero incompletions in a first half. That's what people are getting excited about. They're getting excited about.
Starting point is 00:14:27 New Michael Vick? One start is what they're getting excited about. Tiny sample size. Deere. It's the bad thing. Was it against the Ravens? Was it against the, was that start again, was the one start against that terrible Ravens defense that was good most, or terrible most of the season, good the many
Starting point is 00:14:44 seasons before that, and only good when Kyle Hamilton is in, in their defensive secondary. Because these, these hopes are clinging to something that is a very small sample. Right. Not a lot. So that's what I'm talking about, right? where there's not a lot of recent precedent for what we've seen or haven't seen from Malik Willis and him becoming the guy they hope he's going to be. But at the same time, I like citing with the people who have the information that I definitely don't have.
Starting point is 00:15:16 I'm sitting on my couch watching games and talking here, you know, like a dope. And guys like John Eric Sullivan, it's, I, oh, what's he ever shown you before? He's ever been a general manager? I get it. But like, his livelihood depends on the information. he has on this guy and being right. And I usually like to side with those people who have that kind of information.
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Starting point is 00:18:39 TNT. ESPN. You know, oh, yeah. They are dead. They're not going to make it, you know. Even if they win in, if they lose it in Miami. I need to calm you down. That's right.
Starting point is 00:18:54 If they lose in Miami, they don't got a chance in Boston. Oh, they are going to have their ass. You know what in Boston, you know. Stugats. They were wrong. are they going to lose their job? No, are they going to get a cutting pay? No, what are they going to do?
Starting point is 00:19:06 Keep predicting what is the obvious? They're going to say, oh, the nuggets are going to win. Oh, Denver, the altitude. And you know what? The hit are going to win at all. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats. This is a win for the dolphins because they have a plan at quarterback. I just don't know how much stronger of an opinion you can have than that.
Starting point is 00:19:37 Because when you say guy can be good elsewhere, but not necessarily here, it takes a great deal to make the quarterback good. I don't love the Packers receivers. Do you guys love the Packers? I love the Packers receivers. The problem is it can never say healthy all at once, but they are so deep that one guy goes out. You have a revolving door. No, I'm big on the Packers wide receivers, dude. How about the rest of you? Because I love Jordan Love. I do. I think he is great. great, but you love Watson. That's somebody that you love. Yeah. Yeah, when he's healthy and Dobbs has been good. Jaden Reed is, I love Jaden Reed. Are there players that sometimes you love even when they're not healthy? Like, man, that guy is hurt and I say he's still really good.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Yeah, Jaden Reed. He spent most of the year out because he made a diving attempt and broke his collarbone. But Jaden Reed, like whenever you need a play, Jaden Reed is there. No, their wide receivers are really good. They just can't say healthy, but they're deep so they can survive it. There's a lot of Bs, right? There's no A guy in the Packers' organization. That's the way they do it. They do wide receiver by committee. I mean, Watson could probably be that if he were just healthy enough consistently. Sure, maybe, but like dubs is their best receiver? And they also, who's the young wide receiver that they spent draft capital on?
Starting point is 00:20:49 Matthew Golden. Yeah. That guy sucks. Yeah, but his separation metrics were incredible. How about catch the ball metrics? How about touchdown metrics? How about yards metrics? You didn't get any.
Starting point is 00:20:58 How about that? In that one game against, well, they had two games against Chicago where they collapsed at the end. But Golden had his first touchdown of the season. in that game and they ended up week 18 losing it anyway again though again we used to have patience about this stuff a number of first
Starting point is 00:21:17 round draft pick at wide receiver didn't have to be great right off the bat Randy Moss was but he didn't even know how to run any routes he was just running straight down the field I believe he had did Randy Moss have 17 touchdowns his first season and it was all nine
Starting point is 00:21:33 rounds like he didn't know how to run any any other patterns. I think I've got that number wrong. That number can't be that high. Is it that high? A rookie wide receiver, what is the number? He did have 17 touchdowns as a rookie. Okay. A hell of a recall there, Dan. Yeah, well, that's
Starting point is 00:21:48 true. I mean, because it doesn't happen. Because it was nine routes. Yeah, it was nine routes and it was Randy Moss. He didn't know how to run any other routes. And again, I still smelled the nachos on Jimmy Johnson's breath, telling me that John Avery was the better draft pick when he passed on Randy Moss. I think with Malik Willis, in terms
Starting point is 00:22:06 of, I know that this was a wide receiver conversation, but Malik Willis, he had a lot of promise and he was just straight up bad. And he was noticeably bad because the team straight up did not trust him to throw the ball. And even when he comes in an injury relief, while his numbers are very efficient, he's not a volume thrower. The offense straight up does not trust him to throw the football. But LaFleur runs a lot in general, even with Jordan Love, it's a conservative. He runs a lot and their offensive line is good. Zaz, what did you make here on social media? The Dolphins may have indeed forgotten the birthday of Tua,
Starting point is 00:22:45 but they did thank him on his way out, four-time team captain. You have called him the greatest bust in franchise history. I think that's wrong of you to say. Why? Because it's too soon? No, because he led the NFL in yards per attempt and QB rating in 2022. He led the league in passing in 2023,
Starting point is 00:23:07 and he led the NFL in completion percentage in 2024. Right. They've never had to rebuild, though, because another player wasn't any good on their team. They're rebuilding because this one wasn't good. Guys lost their jobs because this one isn't good. They had the largest cap hit in the history of the NFL because this guy wasn't good.
Starting point is 00:23:22 And let me tell you something. Dan, take a look at this thank you note that they put out there, okay? This graphic. Have you ever seen a more pathetic graphic? I mean, four-time team captain. Dan. One-time pro-buller. How don't we just put pro-buller?
Starting point is 00:23:40 One-time pro-bowler? And why are we thanking him? Thinking him for what? They drafted him number five overall. They tried to build the franchise around him. They got zero playoff wins. What are we thanking him for? Why is everything a participation trophy?
Starting point is 00:23:58 You're being a little strong in all of your opinion. onto and the part that I don't think is fair about it because I know he was important. I understand what it is that you're saying. Leads the NFL in yards per attempt and QB rating in 2022. Led the NFL in passing yards in 2023. And then his brain gets totally scrambled. And last year, 2024, he leads the NFL in completion percentage. But in there, his brain gets totally scrambled.
Starting point is 00:24:27 So what do you do with that? Mike says, Mike says, I love a guy when he's healthy. don't love a guy when he's not healthy, Tua was playing, and all indications are, from watching what happened to him short circuit, that wasn't a healthy quarterback trying to play last year, throwing bubble screens and everything behind the line of scrimmage. And so you're calling him a bust,
Starting point is 00:24:50 and I'm like, how fair is that when you're talking about brain scrambling? I mean, well, okay, is it only not fair because the injury is brain, or would have been any injury you think? Well, but I don't think you say bust of, like Mike said, yesterday when we're talking about the all-time dolphin bus, he said, you're teal green, but that doesn't count because he was injured. He never played. He was gone the whole time. He never showed you anything.
Starting point is 00:25:10 And Mike's saying, well, that doesn't count because he's injured. In this particular case, a guy is out there, and obviously we don't have the expertise as doctors with the diagnosis to know enough about concussions, but what we
Starting point is 00:25:25 saw indicates, oh, that quarterback's not in any way physically right from the way that he's playing, but it's not an injury that you can quantify or that you can see or that keeps him out like an ankle keeps him out temporarily. But when he comes back, you don't know what level of fuzzy he is. You don't know how honest he's being with doctors. You don't know how desperately he wants to get out on the field and is passing tests with, you
Starting point is 00:25:52 know, hiding the fact that he is not, you know, sleeping well at night or has headaches or whatever. It's just you don't know what's physically going on in his head, but you're watching the games and you know something's clearly not right because you rarely see a quarterback. Mike's mentioned RG3 and Carson Wentz. They had physical injuries that we can point to. Like they physically broke. This guy was still out there and was mentally broken. I think you can point to it just the same. And he's also had the hip injuries and other injuries on top of that.
Starting point is 00:26:23 But Kyler Murray, I mean, Tua is not even the biggest mystery in this free agent class. I think Kyler Murray is the biggest, you know, mystery. Because like Tua, we saw him come out the gates. Well, Tua has sputtered a little bit. In fact, was pulled by Ryan Fitzpatrick, but he led the league in passing. Kyla Murray felt like a slam dunk. He was an electric football player. And what happened there, call up duty?
Starting point is 00:26:48 I think a lot of the commentary from Tua this past year also bothers me. Like, I think a lot of the things that he said, I think a lot of the behavior, throwing the teammates under the bus several times. times the stuff even with Tyree Kill at the beginning of the season. Show me the money, of course, which was, and that was before he started to be a bad quarterback. But even then, it was like terribly off-putting. And the whispers of stuff you're hearing behind the scenes with him and Mike McDaniel,
Starting point is 00:27:13 who, by the way, like, Tua, I don't know where that relationship went wrong, but you would have thought that Tua would, like, be thankful every day of his life for Mike McDaniel, no matter what you think of Mike McDaniel as a head. coach. To us should be calling up Mike McDaniel every single day and thanking him for how he helped him in his career. But I think what happened at the end, okay, is a whole bunch of people who didn't know how to be leaders got swallowed by the things that don't swallow great leaders. And when I say they don't know how to be leaders, they'd never been put in the position where they had to be before. And then at the end, as everything was, as I say, the ship be sinking. Everybody was trying to blame everyone.
Starting point is 00:27:57 else for why it is it was sinking. And so that's where it broke apart, I'm sure, with McDaniel and Tua. McDaniel said when he got here, you guys remember a couple of breathless interviews we did with McDaniel and Tua. McDaniel says, I've never seen a more accurate quarterback when he inherits Tua before he's thrown a pass in a professional game for McDaniel. McDaniel says that. And then Tua seemed like a fine leader does when Chris Cody was next to him fiddling with his strings on his shorts as he was just gazing lovingly into the eyes of Tua because he was saying all the bold quarterbacking leadership things that you'd like fine if it was still leading the league in passing. It wouldn't feel, show me the money would feel far less offensive to you if it had been
Starting point is 00:28:45 something that was still leading the league in passing. Oh, but I didn't like it when he said it. I mean, and when he signed that contract, he was still what most of us, certainly myself believed, was still a good quarterback. Like, I thought it was off-putting the moment that he said it. It was strange. And, by the way, money changes, dude, sometimes. Like, didn't he make some changes in his personal life, too?
Starting point is 00:29:05 You know, like, didn't he get rid of the trainer, the guy who was with him for years? I don't know. It's possible money changes you. Yes, we did say Fortley. No, nobody noticed. We're going to be okay. I, uh, I think that I deserve to... Minor penalty, two minutes.
Starting point is 00:29:23 Fork came out of your mouth. He did say Fartley. He was on a point, though, so I didn't want to say anything. Didn't see it? Wow. Did you hear Fartley? No, I didn't. I was too involved with trying to make my point. Sometimes when I try and make my point, I'm really focused on the thing that I'm trying to get at. And I don't really pay attention to other people. Anyone else experienced that sometimes? Yeah, you just wait and you just think like, oh, man, it's my turn to talk. Right. I'm waiting for my turn, you know? And that's good because I was, I feel a little bit attacked. Talk, talk, talk, talk. But in your head, there's nothing else happening. So I'm waiting, yeah, I'm waiting for my turn to get in.
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Starting point is 00:31:31 Don Lebertart. And then that Stafford threw him 25 and 2. Oh, there's a brand new kid in town out of BYU. Stugats. They call it. This is the Don Lebatar show with a Stugats. How jacked up is this substation to see Mike Evans rolling around? Just fresh meat for the electrical substation in San Francisco.
Starting point is 00:32:14 You like that move? They're moving it, though. They better. They better. I mean, Mike Evans has been struggling with injury, so where does he go? Let me go to San Francisco. Their physios seem to know what they're doing. Can I be honest with you?
Starting point is 00:32:27 Obviously, Mike Evans is a huge name, all right? And there are some other big names that moved around yesterday, Kenneth Walker the third for sure. But like, am I the only one that's supposed to pretend that I know who all of these names are and the guys who are getting paid yesterday? Like, there's a lot of guys who are getting a lot of minds. Like, I don't really know what that is. Yeah, there's a bidding war for a guard right now. I'm like, this one's really stretching the knowledge.
Starting point is 00:32:48 But there are some big impactful names there, but we're going to put you to the test later on in the show. Oh, okay. Maybe. We'll run some of these moves by you. Oh, that sounds a little bit like maybe big move or not a big move? Exactly right. Okay, that's what I'm talking about there. All right.
Starting point is 00:33:04 I was surprised, though, with the Malik Willis movie yesterday from the Dolphins because I felt that this is a team. Like, I don't love the idea of paying a quarterback when your team is going to be bad. Like, Dolphers are still going to be bad, okay? And I don't love the idea of paying a quarterback when your team is bad. I mean, I just said yesterday, I believe the only two ways that you could win with your quarterback is either being a Hall of Fame caliber quarterback or he has to be on a good value. And the Dolphins have a guy who's like kind of in the middle now and not a good team around it. My concern is what I've been hearing and not to make it about a certain other franchise. But what I've been hearing around here for weeks is like you don't want to be in the middle.
Starting point is 00:33:44 and that's what the dolphins have been for about 30 years. And the thing you could look at with Willis is like high upside, right? Even though he's a few years into the league, you can convince yourself on a project. This isn't signing maybe Kyler Murray or another kind of middling quarterback where you're going to win games and there's no hope. If you win a bunch of games with Malik Willis, cool. But I would have thought this is like the perfect time for one year to tank, right? Isn't that what everyone is saying is what a good franchise would do? But the quarterback class isn't assumed to be a really good one.
Starting point is 00:34:18 In a year from now? Well, yeah, next year I guess it's a little bit better. It's supposed to be really good. But I'm talking, yeah, okay, I get you. I think that maybe this is a good year to try to take your shot with a high ceiling quarterback. That's why I'm good with it is the high ceiling part of it, I guess. Yeah, I mean, this guy was, I mean, those are pretty impressive stats. I think some of that is funny.
Starting point is 00:34:40 If you watch these games, he doesn't exactly blow you away. he's not winning these games and often like he's efficient but he's also not being trusted which scares you but i think they did about as well especially when you consider you have to be good with it because of what you're saying there mike this is the best of the options it's either him or kailer murray and kail murray is older and they're in cap hell immediate decisiveness from a front office that you want to believe in and i think they right off the bat gave you a reason to be optimistic about them to be honest i think you probably could have gotten kailer murray at a cheaper number, right? Because he's already washed goods and it's just like, eh, we're, well, they're eating
Starting point is 00:35:16 money and there's offset language. So Colin Murray's going to sign for the minimum somewhere, I assume. That's what I'm saying. Like, you would have gotten him for less money and you could have had an escape hatch of like, all right, this isn't working. We can go figure something out next year. The problem is, when you bring it to Malik Willis to kind of be a piece that surrounds your team and gets you to the next level, like you need the pieces that are surrounding the quarterback. Like, the dolphins don't have that. They don't have the offensive line. The defense is in shambles. Like, they don't have anything. So how do you look at this guy and scout him perfectly to be like, all right, he's the quarterback of the future when we don't know what we have around? The problem
Starting point is 00:35:48 would have been, though, if they signed Kyler Murray and you win enough games to be out of the Archmanning race, you'd be infuriated. At least theoretically with Malik Willis, if you do that, it's because you're getting flashes of a high ceiling quarterback. But I will say, like, if you go six and ten, because Malik Willis is just okay, and you've committed this money to this guy, and you play yourself out of the ability to get that top-tier quarterback in the draft next year, it feels like a strange decision to me. They should play that 17th game, though.
Starting point is 00:36:18 That was a good joke to interrupt me with. The middle that Jeremy speaks of there, I don't think the dolphins have been in the middle. The heat have been in the middle. The dolphins have not been in the middle. It's not just not winning a playoff game. They haven't made the playoffs that often. I think they've been a below-average team
Starting point is 00:36:39 for 30 years, even as I understand what you're saying, that 7 and 10 last year feels like it's in the middle, but they haven't, in those 30 years, it's not just that they haven't won a playoff game, they haven't gotten to the playoffs a whole bunch and then lost. Like, they
Starting point is 00:36:54 rarely get to the playoffs, and I actually think that when you're saying they've been in the middle, I think of the Steelers, more like that, the middle, where Mike Tomlin's always having a winning season, but they get to the and they can't get any better because they're just stuck there.
Starting point is 00:37:12 And it's what Jimmy Johnson said. What is it? The enemy of great is good. I think what Jeremy means is in the middle of the draft, right? The dolphins seem to find their way being bad in the early part of the season and then just being good enough in the middle to end part of the season to destroy any draft capital that they would have going into the future. I think that's what he means is the middle. They're always drafting 14 to 16 and getting the third best guard.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Over the last decade, they average eight wins the season. that's quite literally the middle. They're just a tick under 500. They draft in the middle of the first round every single time. And while they don't have enough success to make the postseason, that's difficult. That's more difficult in the NFL than it would be in the NBA. There are only the six, now seven teams that make the postseason. They've been averaging eight wins a year.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Yeah, for the last 10 years. And that is what is the result of 15 years before that. Because it's 15 years before the 10 years that you're talking. about 15 of them. So it's 25 years of not winning a playoff game. But Zaslow said something about this brain trust. He said that they have info I don't have on Malik Willis. Why are we not extending that same grace to the Miami Heat as all of them seem to say our team isn't what the record indicates now that Tyler Hero is back and whenever Norman Powell comes back, he's probably going to be coming off the bench, I guess, because the way the ball is moving now,
Starting point is 00:38:44 this is your core, and Norman Powell is here to help that core. I think they need a player that's better than Tyler Hero and Bam out of bio. But what this team has been with Norman Powell as its best player isn't what it's been the last few games with Tyler Hero playing that way, getting Eastern Conference player of the week, and Bamadabio playing the way they've. played over the last 10 games. I'm sorry, Zaz. I think they've been extended plenty of grace, because this is
Starting point is 00:39:13 the same stuff that they've said for the last two seasons. Three seasons. Maybe this year they can be right, but it ultimately will end with a team that doesn't get out of the first round. That's what it is for me, too. It's three straight years they're saying the same thing. Like, I'm trying to extend some grace to the new Dolphins' brass
Starting point is 00:39:31 because they have more info than me, but if Malik Willis for a third consecutive year is not any good. I'm not going to extend them that grace anymore. The previous two years, they had Jimmy Butler. Like the first year you're talking about, they were coming off of a final. But they were wrong still. They were coming off of a finals appearance.
Starting point is 00:39:48 And then Jimmy got hurt in the play-in game. Then the following season, he sabotaged the season. And now they have a completely new system with a completely new roster. And that team is trending in the right direction, a team that's sitting, what, two games, one game out of fifth place? And you know what? I get what you're saying, and obviously I trust the heat implicitly, but man, like, let's also include the 23 season where they went to the finals. We're talking then four straight regular seasons that they're a playing caliber team. And like, what history in the league is there of that, a team that every year is a seven or an eight seed?
Starting point is 00:40:24 But man, they're really better than their records. You can hold out hope and say like this year it's going to be different, but you're chasing. Like, this is fact-based. They are a play-in team. They have them for an Olympiad. That's who they are. And they've been saying the same thing time and time again. Maybe they can do the thing that they did a couple of years ago, get hot and shock the world.
Starting point is 00:40:44 Bill Simmons says he's horrified. That's horrified. That's horrified. The PTSD. What is he? My God. That's like, that's energy. That's Godzilla-type energy for Jeremy.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Is Bill Simmons being nervous about the Miami heat? It felt so good. Nourous about who? It's my favorite day of the year. My favorite day of the year is the day in the regular season where Bill Simmons is officially afraid of the Miami Heat. It happens every year. What do you think of, and we're going to get to some sound here in about five minutes that I've never heard come out of a baseball player's mouth about a teammate. We're going to do this in five minutes.
Starting point is 00:41:19 But what did you think of what the NBA decided with Terry Rozier yesterday? Well, I don't think the NBA decided anything. That's my main problem. the NBA predictably Adam Silver predictably did nothing you know why because Adam Silver
Starting point is 00:41:37 is what Tony? Nothing. He's a nothing all right the Charlotte Hornets decided we're going to give you a second round pick and let's consider this case closed like hold on a second why are the Hornets giving the heat
Starting point is 00:41:52 anything? The only reason they would give the heat something is because they must have done something wrong If you didn't do anything wrong, why would you give the heat anything? Hey, hold on. Sometimes you can settle and be completely innocent. Okay, this is not a quarter law and no one's being sued. The Hornets are just giving the heat a second round pick.
Starting point is 00:42:11 So if something wrong happened, why isn't the NBA stepping in and giving the heat their pickback? You don't think that they were a guiding hand throughout this? I assume three parties, the Heat, the NBA, and the Hornets were all collaborative. That is how Barry Jackson put it in his tweets. Why does there need to be a solution if there wasn't something wrong that happened? Did something wrong happen? Because if something wrong happened, he'd have their pickback. Guilty.
Starting point is 00:42:44 It's murky. There is a victim here. It's really not. There is a victim, but was there intent? I think all that stuff matters. The intent is don't figure out that he was throwing games. Yeah, let's try to trade him before everything comes out. The intent is if you're aware that the FBI is,
Starting point is 00:42:58 looking into a player, you'll let the heat know. That's the intent. Did they do that? No. It's a cover-up. It's literally a cover-up. They're covering up what happened. No, it's a nothing is what it is. You have a commissioner here who is on nothing. He's on nothing. Is it over? Like, is there going to be? Yeah, that's how settlements work. It's over. So
Starting point is 00:43:14 Zaz says that it's not the NBA doing that, but you think the NBA was just totally hands-off with this? Like, you think Charlotte just decided, you know what? I feel bad about this. Many, many months later. I'm going to just send this second
Starting point is 00:43:30 round pick over there. You know, look, our general manager, brother Teresa, he's just, he's just, it's, he's feeling guilt and he wants to just send you a second round pick because it was unfair what happened to you. You think the NBA didn't have anything
Starting point is 00:43:46 to do with that? Why was it unfair? Well, if it was unfair, he should get the first round pick back. Why was it unfair? Guilty. It's not we're going to give you a first round pick unless he's being investigated by the FBI and then you give us a second. No, no one agreed to that. You look better today.

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