The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: This Week is a Lazy River

Episode Date: October 16, 2023

Stugotz is in the driver's seat this week as Dan and Mike are in Los Angeles, and the show is riding the lazy river. The crew takes a look around the NFL including the happiest guy on a losing team, Josh McDaniels' failures, PJ Walker and Zach Wilson winning, and, of course, the Miami Dolphins. Plus, news breaks during the live show that Kim Ng and the Miami Marlins have parted ways. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Don Levertars show with the Stugat Sputcast. So here's what we have for you this week. You're staring at it. We have Billy Who's on on Jerry duty. We'll get to that in a second. We have Dan and Mike out in LA. They're covering the chargers game for us Also the exclusive sit-down with George Sedano So you are left with me Chris Roy Jess and Tony and I am thrilled about that Roy, Jess, and Tony. And I am thrilled about that. There are two rules for those of you who have not been here. When Dan is not here and I'm here, left to my own devices, two rules. One, have fun. The second rule is treat this like a lazy river.

A lazy river, yes. Because I have told you guys for years when you hop on the lazy river, especially the one at the Atlantis, okay? Because it's got rapids. It's not your typical lazy river You let the river take you where it takes you If you fight the river if you try to go against the rapids, you don't have a good time But you have fun when you let the river just take you where the river wants to take you And that's what I would like you guys to treat this show like this week. You know what I like?

I like it when you get up against the wall and the lazy river and with your foot, you just give a little kick. Just a little like, let me get myself going on. Just to kick yourself off. Just a little kick it off the wall. Just like, I don't know where I'm going next, but I'm just going to a little kick. But that's not letting the river take you where it takes you. And this week, I would like you guys just to let the river take you. If it takes you to a wall, it takes you to a wall. Don't kick off

the wall. That's where the river wanted to take you. Embrace the wall. Wow. Yeah. Toob or noodle. All right. Two. Sure. Two. No, two. Toob. Noodle is not, you can't like really move around in a noodle. Right. Yeah. The thing is, most people go but in the center of the tube, right? All your extremities kind of overlapping over the top of it. Yes. I go up through the bottom of it My upper torso above the the whatever this thing the what is this where we have the tube to He's in rare form this morning. I'm telling you right now He's in rare form legs are like I'm like a duck underwater. Okay, don't paddle. Do not paddle. That's true. Just let the river take you where it takes you.

Correct. That's it. Okay, stop fighting the river. Jess, what do you prefer? I like four noodles under my knees and like two behind my back. And I'm like kind of semi drowning the whole time. Fighting it a little, but I'm floating. Seems a little inefficient if it's a crowded.

Lazy river because that people are wanting to borrow. Like you can't have four tubes. Like if you ever have that thing where there's like a weight align for the tube, you're like a really popular lazy river. Yes. And like as you're getting out, you're handing your tube to someone else,

I'm like that. Yes. And in a perfect world, like just you could have, I could have seven tubes. Right. But it's like you gotta just make do with one usually. Wait, but you don't like sharing your tube, you're getting out of the river.

So someone else eats your tube. Like, these things sanitary, how does this work? I know I'm gonna pull, I know chlorine's involved, but it's just like, my chest has just been on this tube for about two straight hours, handing it to this like eight year old kid. Okay. I prefer a tube, I will be honest with you guys,

as I get older, it's really difficult getting into the tube. Yeah. It's hard. What technique do you use to get into the tube? Well, if you have the stairs, I have to do it in very shallow water. Yes, there's the stairs, you can get a plop. Right.

The little jump backwards into the thing. Right. But it's like you said, it can be a messy situation. What do you guys think of a double tube? Yeah. Double tube to yourself, you're set. Double tube to yourself, you get the legs in the front tube, you're in the back tube and you're just kind of like riding it

You know, I don't like it when you're doing it with like your spouse or something and like my legs like all of a sudden my wife's legs There's over my shoulder like you know here on tube I don't need to do this double thing. I don't need your feet in your face Chris, well you nervous down 14? Nothing first quarter yesterday? Every dolphins fan you were. I'm telling you I got the text from like 15 people. There was every dolphins fan was telling you how confident they were down 14 nothing. Right. I'll admit, I was a little nervous. Yeah. Because I I didn't take the dolphins in this game. I did feel like they were due to play a close game.

That's a big number to cover. I didn't think they would lose the game. I wanted to bet them when they were down 14 nothing but they were still almost a two minus 200 down 14 nothing. So Vegas was not onto the Panthers when they were up 14 nothing. You had a feeling they would win. The sky. Jesus. Oh my God.

No, you sit right there. I love you. You believe. Good joke. You know, Jeremy, they wanted me to invite Adam Thielin into studio today because they have the buy week now. They're rowing six. Like I'm not bothering that.

I know he's having the best season he's ever had. He's amazing. I know, but he's old saying. This is actually an interesting question we could have had with him today. What? I bet Adam Thielin is loving this season so far. Absolutely. Why?

Because he's having a great season. I'm just saying, I'm not saying he's not a team guy. I'm just saying he's having a huge bounce back season. And the Vikings are bad too. A resurgence, I would say, he's having a team guy. I'm just saying he's having a huge bounce back season. And the Vikings are bad too. A resurgence I would say he's having. And it's just, it's gotta feel good. I mean, obviously if we had him in here, he would say all the right things,

but he's gotta be loving life right now. Especially with the Vikings being bad. Like if the Vikings were good and winning without him, and Justin Jefferson was having this spectacular season and all the guys who replaced him were playing really well, then maybe he'd be feeling like All right, it's just stats and we're losing but the Vikings are horrible. Are we playing happiest guy on a losing team? Chris that is letting the river take you where it takes you, okay?

If that's the game we're playing let's play it. Who is the happiest guy in a losing team? Who is it? Is it Adam feeling? We're all in with Adam Thielen right now. That's the leading clubhouse. Who can beat Adam Thielen? Malik Cunningham? Oh Malik Cunningham back up quarterback in New England. He's now all of a sudden getting a shot. No, no, no. I'll get to ballcheck in a second because that may be so happy seeing them run like an option offense. Yes. I'm just like, this is beautiful. Right. But Tony, what were you telling me right before we came on air about Josh McDaniels? I'm so sick of Josh McDaniels. Like, how does he not get it?

After being an archetype for an offense with Brady that broke all these records, it was an incredible offense. Right. He's playing to lose, right? He's in 1987, let's run the ball. We've got no timeouts. We've got two minutes off the clock. Let's just run the game out.

And then he runs it into the back of the line like three times, punts the ball, and gives the, you know, the Patriots a chance to win. Luckily Max Crosby had that back door cover sack, which is huge. That was great. Yes. It was massive, but I'm looking at him saying, Josh, how do you just not get it? Just year after year after year, not get it.

By the way, the rare like seven X revenge game. There was a lot of guys from the Patriots on that Raiders team. By the way, the rare like seven X revenge game. There was a lot of guys from the Patriots on that Raiders team. Yes, we got the revenge. Who's the offensive like genius from like six years ago that's looking at Mike McDaniel and like Sean McVeigh. Like I was you, Josh Daniel.

Like that's what I mean, I'm not talking about. Josh McDaniel, Josh McDaniel. Josh McDaniel, Josh McVeigh, the other Sean Peyton. Yeah, they're just like, oh, you think you have it good. Your time, it'll end for you soon. I was you once. Be an enemy. Yeah, they're just like, oh, you think you have it good. You're tied. It'll end for you soon. I was you once. Be enemy. Yeah.

He's gonna be the next head coach of the Commanders though, I think, right? Is he? I feel like he is. Your offense looks pretty good, actually. Sam Howell? Because of him. Right. Yes.

But when they didn't look good, it was because of him too, right? No, but Tony, I think you'd go to a place like Washington with Sam Howell and you say, hey, it wasn't just Patrick Mahomes. It was me too. I can make Sam Howell good. I can make anyone good. So that was like a good move by, uh, by Eric B. Enemy, but here's the cool thing about the dolphins.

I think the dolphins are the best team in the NFL. I really do. Now I'm saying that again, please. I think the dolphins are the best team in the NFL. Now I'm saying it coming off a very surprising Sunday in which you had the Philadelphia Eagles lose to the jets, right? And you had the San Francisco 49ers lose to the Cleveland Browse without the Sean Wantsot. But the beautiful thing about the dolphins is I'm not a dolphin fan, but I bet the dolphins yesterday and at no point, even down 14 to nothing, which for me is being down 27 and a half to nothing because I had the dolphins minus 13 and a half. I was not nervous. What do you guys laugh at? I was down 27 and a half

to nothing. And I was not nervous at all. I knew the dolphins would cover. The dolphins have the best team in the NFL. That is the worst feeling when you have a huge favorite and the other team scores first. Did you start doing that? It's just like, God, we got a lot of points to score here. I don't believe you though. You had to be nervous. I was not. I was 27 and a half to nothing.

I'm telling you, it was not nervous. I mean, you have every reason and every right to call me a liar, but I am telling you, I was not nervous in that spot because your offense is so good especially at home. Stu, the dolphins are in this rare air now that we used to have with the Kansas City Chiefs like two or three years ago

where no matter what the score is, you're like, okay, they can come back. You don't have that many teams that live in that era, like that live in that bubble. But I'm telling you, this, every year we have a best offense in the NFL. That's not rare. What the dolphins doing is rare

because they're leading in rushing and passing. I crunched the numbers last night. I literally, there has not been like the best off, the offense that's got closest to this. I think we're the Cowboys in 2019. Yeah. They were second in passing, eighth in rushing. But you're saying you crunched the numbers

like you came up with this stat. You just read it off of something. No, I started going back every year in the, like the T. You did it, you did it a year by year. I went all the way back to 04. No team ever is in the top five in both. Like since 04, no team has been in the top five.

The dolphins are leading in, I don't know if it's sustainable, but it is not only just the best offense in football. It is the best offense in decades. Chris, the number's up. I did. I was like this, I was like, I need answers. You're not buying it, right? I was like, I need. I was like this. I was like, I need answers. You're not buying it, right? I was like, I need.

We've known this creature for a while. I need answers. I was like, this doesn't make sense. This seems too good to be true. There has to be another offense that's been like this in recent years, nothing close. What does you crunch in the numbers? Look like me.

I'll like, Christie, hey, honey, like get in the room. I'm about to crunch some numbers off. I'll have a crunch here. I got a calculator. It's just me on a computer. Just flipping through some years. Looking busy.

You want to take profile reference clicking like the next season? That's right. Exactly. Yeah, but none of us believe you. I mean, that's how I crunched. Go look up on the team stats. Go find me the last time a team was

leading in rushing and passing. I know it's only six weeks, but it just doesn't happen. Well, why do I need to look it up? I mean, you were crushing the numbers. You're doubting me. I know, but you crunch weeks, but it just doesn't happen. Well, why do I need to look it up? I mean, you were crushing the numbers. You're doubting me. I know, but you crunch the numbers. So just tell me.

I'm not gonna crush them anymore. Right. Not gonna crush anymore numbers. Oh, that's too bad. Really? This is how I get treated when I do it. What do you mean? Try to do a little work, a little research for the show,

and this is how I get treated. There is an article here from Bleacher Report from 2019 going through some of the best offenses of all time and where they ranked and none of them were Top in both rushing and passing. There are some that finished in the top five But when you look at that it's like the O7 Patriots. It's the 2011 New Orleans Saints finish in the top five in both no, but it's so if you look at the 99 St. Louis Rams, right? They led the league and passing yards per game. They were fifth in rushing yards per game. The Broncos who in 2013 would paint in man

and yeah, they led in passing yards, but they were 13th in rushing. So to be able to put both together, there are some here that are like right around the top five in both, but it would be insane if they finished at the very top of the league in both of those stats. The funny thing is too, is like, when they're talking

to Mike Vendin, he's like, yeah, we didn't run as much last year. And then he's like, you know, what if we just try running and now they're number one in the league and running to? How does this work? He just, he gets everybody just open and everybody wide open running lanes. They make it look so easy. I mean, they really do, which is why when I'm down 27 and a half to nothing, I'm not sweating the dolphins at all. I'm just not. And let's play, let's play the game. Let's nitpick. They've been bad on short yardage situations.

They had one of the weirdest plays I've ever seen yesterday on third and one where they just decided to chuck the ball. You didn't like the fake five yards back. Did you see that play? They guess third and one. What was the score? They were down actually. I think this is the only reason you didn't like it. Might have been said enough at the time.

This was early in the game. Third and one, they could just run the ball. They tried to do it. They got too cute is what they did. And then they had to punt the ball. It was a fake, it was like a fake brotherly shove kind of thing, but then two it took a step in. And then through it backwards, as Raheem

mostly was running the opposite way. It was like, wait, it's like, where's the ball? Why are we busting that out against the Panthers? I like that style of your play. You gotta bust that out. That's exactly the place you busted out is against the Panthers down 14 and nothing. I mean, save that stuff for like the real games. I mean, this is a real game.

You got to practice it against the terrible teams. So that way when you play against the bills or the jets or whatever in your division, you can use it. At public mobile, we do things differently. From our subscription phone plans to throwing a big sale right now when no one else is. Well, maybe they are, but who cares, our sale is better. And it's on right now, no waiting necessary. You have the latest phone, now take advantage of a great price on a 5G subscription phone plan.

It's the perfect deal for anyone who could use some savings right now. Subscribe today at publicmobile.ca. a stable job. I need to pack it in. I've got a lot of good football left in me. My footwork is underrated. I can just step up in the pocket with the best of all. No one can scare in the field like me. But wouldn't it be nice to be around the family more often and I have to worry about any injuries? Babe, just give me one more chance. Stillogats. Tell you what, I'm not going to therapy. I'm not. Therapy is not happening. Sorry. You need to work on you.

There's one person pulling the rope for this family right here. And it's Mike Glennon. This is the Don LeBathar Show with a Stoogats. I just watched you make a face when he said that wasn't a real game. No, I don't know. I mean, I owe Chris Cody a lot this weekend. We went to Highlight on Friday night. He told me. So when you go to Highlight, you get a few free bet slips.

And so between me and Lehman, we had eight of them. And we were like, we don't know who to who to bet on. Chris Cody, what should we do? He told us, this is the one put all your bets on this guy. We put all eights free bets on one guy, 180 bucks. So I owe Chris Cody to him. I wasn't even, it wasn't really even our guy I was going with. It was the other team's person I was going against.

I was like, oh, this loser's not going to be a Chris. I'm not saying the name. This has to be a leave. Not saying the name. No, this was a magic city. Because you know, this was all perfect. It's like inside your trading Roy. This is a legal. Not saying the name. This has to be a legal. Not saying the name. No, this was a magic city casino. This was all per- It's like inside your trading room with you. Yes.

No, I'm allowed to bet too. They give me fake money too to bet. It's a weird thing with highlight where it's legal to bet if you're in a draft king state, but if you're not, there's something about when you're there. It's a, I don't know the laws behind it. Oh, I don't have it on my mind. So hold on, you bet fake money and win real money.

Yeah, like because you're unable to hold on, because we're unable to place real money bets, I guess they wanna make let people feel like they're in the action, so they just hand out essentially fake dollars. They're handing out cash at highlights, what you're saying. Really? You have to bet.

You have to like pick a winner. You like, you might not win, but Chris Cody gave us really good intel and I'm assuming most people that go, don't really have a scouting right. They don't have a Chris Cody. And any of the players. So I credit to Chris, like I agree with everything he says today, I agree with his numbers crunching,

I agree the Panthers aren't a real game. Chris won me 80 bucks. And the Cyclones won the night too. It was like, just won and the Cyclones one. It was a good night on Friday. Well, you guys more surprised by the jets being the Eagles or the or the Niners losing to the Cleveland Browns because the jets being the Eagles. It might be the greatest moment for me as a jet fan since they went to the AFC champion. You gave with Mark Sanchez. I call my daughter. I did head. You mean after Aaron Rodgers came to the Jets.

Like that was the greatest moment for you since the AFC championship game. That was a celebration. But since the injury, what would rank higher for you? The feeling of when Aaron Rodger said he was gonna be a jet or that actual win over the Philadelphia Eagles. I think the win over the Eagles. Oh, stop it.

What do you mean? Wait a minute. You're happier yesterday than when Aaron signed with the Jets? That's not true. Like, don't lie to yourself. You guys, hold on a second. You asked me a question. I gave you an answer and then you called me a liar. So you're lying to yourself.

No. So you think you're being honest? No. That's like, yeah. Yeah. I'm in the like, yeah. Yeah. I'm in the moment, Chris. Okay. And I was nervous down 14, nothing, Carolina.

PJ Walker winning was the most impressive thing there. He played. I was more expecting the jets that competing against Eagles than the Browns with PJ Walker. Are you upset? You think dolphin fans are upset because they wanted, like they wanted the Eagles undefeated, right? Like now the jets, it takes a little juice off of that game.

It does. A little bit. It also takes a little pressure away from the dolphins. Really? I like it. No, the jets beat them. I don't know. I just feel like if there's no more undefeated teams, everyone's lost a little bit.

The dolphins have the most impressive loss. Huh? All you other teams, all you other good teams have lost to... Is that what you're doing? That player at a losing team. That is the same. Who has the most impressive loss? He goes to the Jets.

Right. Who the Chiefs lose to? I have no idea. Lions are also fighting. Lions are good. That's a good loss. Lions are good. Yeah.

Can't believe I'm saying it. Lions are good. Line up. Like super ball good. The defense is good. That's the thing. They're really good. Yeah. Doesn't it put more pressure on the dolphins Because you haven't played the jets yet and you play them twice closer to the end of the schedule

So now you know they are a team with a really good defense that can beat you without Aaron Rodgers And as Solace said they've embarrassed every quarterback they've played. It's true. I mean they have they have a really good defensive line Guys, this is why Aaron chose the jets. No one ever chooses our franchise the good defensive line guys this is why Aaron chose the jets no one ever chooses our franchise the all time great they don't choose our franchise bread for water to go to Minnesota the packer said no they traded him to the jets they don't want to trade him inside the division so he used the jess is a bridge to get himself to Minnesota guys like Aaron Rogers do not choose the jets no one chooses the jets but the reason he wanted to come here was because the defense is

championship good, championship good. I saw him throwing on the field yesterday, okay? I think he was without a boot, no crutches, nothing. Do me a favor, don't rush back. There is something about this team. There's something happening in New York. I don't know what it is, but don't rush back. Zach Wilson's doing just fine.

That was one of the great moments for me as a jet fan that I've ever had. We have video of Roger's throwing side. Let me see here. Let me evaluate this. I'll tell you how close he is to coming back. Let's see here. All right.

There he is. No limp. Doesn't seem to be limp in. No. Let's see. Push off. That guy's you don't understand. That is incredible.

That is not human for three weeks after in a kiley surgery My dad had a kiley surgery 11 weeks ago. He still can't walk right do you think Aaron like goes back into the locker rep for this Just like oh that hurt The video You get it Tell me what I'm done What can I go back inside the amount of pain medication that he took for this video. Right.

A poor guy. This is setting up, like assuming which is a humongous assumption, he can play at the end of the season. How? And that's why I'm saying it's a humongous assumption. I don't think it's ever happened before. Like, if Zach Wilson actually gets you in the playoffs, you can't bench Zach Wilson for Aaron Rodgers.

You can't do that. What if you do and then he loses? Quarterback controversy. Wait, wait, so hold on. The scenario, KOS, that's stay here. The scenario is Zach Wilson gets you to the playoffs. Aaron Rodgers is healthy and ready to go. And you are not, you're not putting in Aaron Rodgers

because you want to ride Zach Wilson because he got you to the playoffs. You can't do that to Zach, right? Or you do put in Aaron Rogers, Aaron Rogers loses. The narrative is insane. Fire and flames everywhere. That's what I want.

I've just decided that's the best case scenario for the NFL season. You want Aaron to replace Zach. You want Zach to get him to the playoffs, Aaron to come in and then Aaron to lose the playoff game. Absolutely, yes. You think Zach wants that? He becomes the most popular guy in New York City. Right, that's better than be.

That's the best backup quarterback situation that there's ever been. The clamoring for him, instead of yelling T-Bo, they're yelling Wilson. Can we dissect one of the weirdest things I've ever seen to a do? Sure. It was before the game, CBS Sports, just like,

you know, one of those stereotypical, not going to say anything, interviews before a game. How you feeling about today's game? So we're not even going to play most of the interview. the game CBS Sports just like you know one of those stereotypical not gonna say anything interviews before a game how you feeling about today's game so we're not even gonna play most of the interview we're just gonna play the last 30 seconds but to it does something at the end of this interview that is just weird let's play this the same way you prepare for any other team and this team is no different thanks so much for the time today good luck thank you and as the panthers look to get their first win of the season, they're going to have to do it without their starting running back.

And I know for the podcast audience, as soon as she says goodbye to her, he walks behind her and photo bumps, essentially his own interview. Like, is there friends behind him? It's just, I love how comfortable he is. You know, after this interview, they fall behind 14. Nothing. I would have had some real questions about his focus going into this game. Sure. But they turned it around. So I'm not going to talk about that. But just can anyone explain to me what to a might have been doing there? It looks like the door behind him is not the door he's supposed to go into.

So he realizes that right after. And he's like, oh, this is not the door that I need to be walking in turns around. I think Tony's right. Can we see it again? Because I think Tony, I think you're actually right. We're going to be walking in turn and turns around. I think Tony's right. Can we see it again? Because I think Tony, I think you're actually right. We're gonna play it here without the sound this time just because I don't feel like the audio is just not important here.

So they're doing it and conducting it. Yes, we're gonna have a great day. He's in the tunnel right. He's got his coffee. It's a great look. All right, see you later. And he's like, yo! Yes, fist bump.

That's like what I do when I strike in bowling right there. He's just like, yes, and then brings it home. Is that what you do? It's just like the hand goes up when you think it's gonna be a strike and then once all the pins go down, do you wear like a collared shirt at bowling? No. Like a bowling shirt?

No, no, no, no. Some people do, like there's a bunch of teams that have full uniforms. You go stand your team, right? Yeah, we just have regular clothes. I think he saw someone he thought he recognized and then realized he didn't recognize them. It was someone else.

The whole fake, like, tried to fake it for the camera. Like he knew what he was doing the whole time. Like he was just saying hi to someone. It went from a wave to a fist bump. No, hey, hello there. That's no one I know. Fist bump. I think Tony's right that he notices that the door is not the door he's supposed to be

walking into. He goes to call for help, but then realizes, oh, they're still finishing up this report. So he stuck in the moment stuck in the shop. So it realizes, oh, they're still finishing up this report. So he stuck in the moment, stuck in the shop. So it realizes, oh God, I'm on camera. So let me give a little fist bump in the background for everybody so they can see I'm really excited. He definitely thought no one saw it too. Chris Cody's the only one who was like,

hold on a second, hold on a second. Wait, but I want to hear Chris's takes if the Dolphin 10 lost thing. I'm just saying, I'm looking at this video much differently. Right. If they don't come back for today, I just say, I don't focus. Got to focus. Right. What's in that coffee? So what I'm saying? A little too excited. Why are you, why are you so just out of character? Right. Before a game. Right. Well, let's say I'm saying a lot.

But they want, so you have no questions about the coffee. Totally good with it. Got it great great great Like to have you want to be a little balanced on a game day. We do see exactly I like it seems like an odd thing to drink before a game just for me. It does Let's try to get they trying to clear yourself out. Maybe before the game. I mean coffee caffeine look at you know I you don't drink caffeine before you work out ever You have me working out.

Look out. But I think if you drink coffee normally, don't you, like my wife gets headaches when she doesn't drink coffee. Oh, I can't not drink. As I mean, so people that are used to coffee need to do it or else they're going to have a headache. We don't want to with a headache. Little coffee, little heater, get your nicotine, get your caffeine in, get you focus for

the game. I'm an afternoon coffee guy. I got to be honest. I don't drink coffee in the morning. Afternoon's for me. You need a little pick me up. Yeah. Before your three hour drive back to Orlando.

Yeah, yeah. You got just two. Little double espresso. I'm a lot of athletes drink coffee before games. There was a Formula One driver a few weeks ago who was on the radio who was like, I had a coffee before this, I feel great man. And his engineer was like, okay.

Okay. Jimmy Butler drinks 12 cups of coffee every day. Yeah, but he asked to, I mean, this company, he's promoting his brand. It just, he sounds like he's genuinely addicted to catching coffee. I'm also calling BS in that. Drolved 12 cups.

I mean, Jesus. I liked the idea of too a walking out that door and then being in a place where you can't get back in. He walks in, he's like, oh, shit. Like outside of the stadium, where's all my stuff? He's locked out. Mike White's playing quarterback.

So we can't find two of, where is he? I still would have been fine about 27 and a half to nothing of Mike White with a quarterback. Speaking of bowling, I'm pretty sure I saw videos this weekend of two of bowling. And I need to get them on my team. I saw a couple strikes.

I think Javan Holland or, no, most are, I think, had some charity event at a bowling alley and two at Sneaky Good Bowler. I saw a couple strikes. But if they lost that game, you would have blasted him for being at that vet, right? Yeah, I'd focus. Just because I was watching film during that time. Wreck your arm. No, the good news was I noticed this because I was super concerned about two of bowling.

And he was bowling with his right hand to make, yeah, he was not bowling with his left arm. No, the good news was I noticed this because I was super concerned about to a bowling and he was bowling with his right hand to make yeah, he was not bowling with his left arm. Not going to that's the legoshi. That's contractually a negotiate. You have as a clause in his contract. Also, our friend Rohan did a story with Jimmy Butler recently for sports illustrated and in that story, he asked Jimmy if he'd be willing to give up coffee for a year in exchange for an NBA title. The direct quote, hell no. For an NBA title. Hell no.

Wow. I wouldn't give up coffee for an NBA title either. If you were an NBA basketball player, it's the one missing thing from his resume. People who drink coffee need coffee, Stu Gatz. He needs a ring. Needs coffee more. I don't think so. Put it on the pole.

Ring her coffee. What is Jimmy Butler need most? Don Lebertard. I read his lips and it sounded like he was saying, what, you want to fight me now? Spote. But I'm telling you, if you look, we can play play a game right now the lips look the same on fight you and Failure watch my lips. I'm gonna turn off my mic. No, I just

And I want you guys to tell me I'm saying fight you are failure, okay? Yeah, yeah still got I hear your ideas always so bad for the podcast. This is my little video. I swear it's gross. You hear mine, what? You hear mine, man. Just that. Just for the audio. I have to do it again.

Fight you. Fight you. I'm in the canteen. Oh my god. We got to the bottom of it. This is the Don Lebathar show with this two guts. with their stugats. ["Morning"] All right, we have some breaking news this morning. We do.

That everyone comes to me for breaking news. Do you talk about news? It is not football news. The Marlins, the Miami Marlins, and Kim Aing have parted ways. Really? That is shocking news to me, especially after the Marlins made the playoff this season.

Jeremy, what is the latest on this? Yeah, I was really surprised when I saw this news this morning. The statement from Bruce Sherman, the principal owner of the Marlins says, the Miami Marlins announced today that Kimming will not be returning as a club general manager. Although the club exercised its team option for her to return for the 2024 season, Kim has declined her mutual option. We thank Kim for her contributions during her time with our organization and wish her and her family well. And then they go on to say they'll, you know, be trying to capitalize off the

momentum of the season and building toward next year. I'm pretty shocked. She's dying a better job. Yeah, I mean, it does. She went on on top. I mean, there is obvious surprise around this in the fact that Kim and Kim in here is a first time general manager. There were some struggles at the beginning as any first time general manager would have. There were contracts this season that I think a lot of folks sort of thought

might cost Kim her job toward the beginning of the year when you saw guys like Johnny Quedo and the way that was working out Jean Sigerra, the way that was working out when the Marlin spent money and it doesn't work. There's obvious reason for change because that's the way they do things on the same note. Those signings ultimately were par par laid into other moves that Kim Ming made at this deadline that were spectacular that got the Marlins not only in position to make the playoffs this season, but build toward the future.

Josh Bell, who he also is someone looking at an option going into this next season. He may opt out, but Jake burger, who's now a staple of this roster going forward. She made the trade of Pablo Lopez for Luis Arias, which worked out for both squads. Obviously Lopez pitched really well in the playoffs for Minnesota, but Luis Arias changed everything about the way that this Marlins offense worked. She was a huge part of hiring skip shoe macker, who we all agree

is a great manager for the Marlins, and they worked hand in hand in, in sort of building the, the identity of this roster. I'm really, really surprised that this happened. Are you surprised when I tell you the match job is open? I mean, I guess not. I don't know where Kim is going to end up. And the other part of this that we don't know yet, and there's more reporting to be done, is how far along did these sides get

in the extension conversations before it became, hey, we're just gonna exercise our option for one more season because that's always the conversation when you're looking at people with mutual options is having a conversation about an extension and where's the money there? I don't know the answer to that. And maybe Kim just saw all of these other positions open

and said, you know what? It's time for a different challenge. She lived in New York for a really long time. Maybe that's a spot where she would want to go. I don't know. All of that is sort of speculation from here, but it is intriguing and it was certainly surprising. Is it a lily pad thing where maybe she's using the Marlins and making a playoff appearance

to lily pad herself to another job? Is it strictly a money thing where maybe she can go and prove, hey, look, proof of concept here with the Marlins, we made the playoffs after X amount of years. I can go to your team and do better than what we have here. Potentially, I think the other part of it that's interesting is, look, the conversation going into the end of the season was that people were unsure whether or not Kim and

would be back. And a lot of us sort of thought it was dependent on whether or not the Marlins made the playoffs. You know, there's got to feel like there's a job out there for 100%. And I don't think that there is what declined her option if there wasn't an opportunity to go get another job. And from the Marlins perspective, look, their view probably. This is a bad day for the Marlins. Yeah, I mean, this is a bad day.

But on the same token, their view is likely, hey, we offered our part of the option. She didn't want to be here anymore. We have this foundation that she helped us build and now this should be a pretty attractive job. When you look at it, there are actually a lot of pieces that you can build around. A team that now has a young manager that embraces analytics, but is also sort of

the old school mentality. He embraces his players. Everybody really likes him. You're not coming into a situation like before where this is just a straight up losing franchise. There's been clearly effort made to be a winning franchise here. They spent some money at the deadline. I'm just I am surprised. This is something that certainly caught me off guard when we were in our our pre-production meeting and I was late driving into. You weren't late. You missed the entire thing. Yeah, I know. I missed the entire thing. I walked in here as you guys were already recording. I then made a really terrible pun about Adam Thielin, but it's what you do. Yeah, that's what I do.

But when I saw the news when Craig Misch tweeted out that this was happening, I was startled. And if you looked at Twitter, I mean, everybody lost their minds over this. The actual reaction was, what is happening? And when you now find out, okay, Kim declined her end of the option, that makes it interesting

because this is not the Marlins firing somebody and saying, hey, we don't want to spend the money on you. At least we think, maybe those extension conversations are the reason. This feels rare though. Why are you mad? A GM's just like, I'm good. There's a better job out there. There are several better jobs out there for me.

I think the thing was really good this bad like we know No, I'm just saying, but I don't know is she going to get like the like the metzes like that's like I think she did a good enough job down here in Miami with a lousy organization. Oh, I I'm not saying she's in cable That's just saying I'm not saying the work. She did the work. She did here like is she the next I think she's coveted Yes, I she must be yeah she's coveted? Yes. She must be. It's such an odd move to just be like, I'm good. But Jeremy, I mean, you're on the inside with this team.

So like you follow this team, you love this team. You would agree, right? She's coveted at Major League Baseball. Yeah, Kim did a great job. I think that you can nitpick little things about the way that the roster was built in her time here. But if we look back, the worst signing was the Viseal Garcia signing. And that was Derek Jeter straight up. There's reporting from Barry Jackson back then that it was, he had breakfast with a Viseal

Garcia, looked in his eyes and knew he should be a Miami Marlin and then left during the lockout. So like Derek Jeter brought Kim Aing in. This is the other part that you can question is does Bruce Sherman want any sort of Derek Jeter remnants around this organization? That's outside of Kim Aing, that's gone now. And so look, this is one where there needs to be

a lot more reporting on how far the extension conversations went because if this was just simply about mutual options and Kim deciding to leave and there was never a conversation about an extension, then you could also make the argument why wasn't there a conversation about an extension? That gets me thinking. So, Avacel Garcia had breakfast with their jeeter and he signed him to a what deal? What was the deal? Terrible deal. Terrible deal.

Terrible deal. Terrible deal. Terrible deal. Yes. What if you had a shot, one breakfast for your life, four, four years, $56 million, do you crush that breakfast or what? Yes, I mean, what do they have?

What a great job of letting the show take you where it takes you I'm so proud of you man Wait, if you do mean crush the breakfast doesn't like eat like like the big on trays Like do whatever that might make you lose out on whatever of a silver seed did do that like did he Did he eat did he have a cigarette with breakfast? What did G. D. C. And I'm be like you know what? This is my guy. What would you do? Yeah? Say are you saying are you saying they're pulling the deal back because he's eating too much? I ordered pancake I ordered the full breakfast. I got bacon scrambled eggs toast. I finished all of it and they're like

This girl could play some baseball No, you're right you're causing yourself money. You got to hit 29 home runs for the brewers in 2021 That's what you got to do. I want to get like the Denver Omelet He had a year though like the Denver Omelet. I think. He got a year though, Chris. That's enough. The Denver Omelet. Keep it simple. Egg whites.

Oh, no. No. No. He's had 11 home runs. 11 home runs in two seasons with the moms. Really? It's about the breakfast, Chris. Do you think that he was staring at Jeter

and then every time Jeter we need, he would take a bite to like match Jeter? Because he can't eat more than Jeter right because it's disrespect. He just left the Jeter either. He just hit him with all have what he's having. This article from Christina Dina Cola on December 1st, 2021 right after Garcia signed. A couple of weeks ago over breakfast with a Veseal Garcia. Marlin CEO Derek Jeter made sure to look the veteran outfielder in the eyes.

What did he see? A player buying into what the organization is building. Eat your toast. What what kind of eyes did he give him? What was the offer? It's four years 53 million dollars. He's all 53 million dollars. This restaurant definitely had it laced in its orange juice. Yeah, you don't like that. Do you know? Huh? Do you like pulp? I'm okay with some some pulp pulp I like pulp. I love pulp. I need pulp for you. I want so much pulp that I need to like eat it with a spoon. Yeah, I fiber. Yeah. I want to I want to have to chew my orange juice. You want like pulp in your teeth like three months later. I

wanted to be the most sludgy time as the orange juice you've ever just mud put it on the pole. Do you want to chew your orange juice? I hope my orange juice to be a solid. Just just. You want to drink it like soup? I want to fork it a knife. I want to fork it a knife for my orange juice. I want to put my orange juice on the plate.

So you want an orange? And cut it with a knife. Yeah. Well, you peel that. Dare to just like give her an orange. I'll take the orange juice. I'm not getting the $50 the $53 million at breakfast. They're watching me eat and they're saying, oh, I don't know about her.