The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Tony Calls Dan "Dad" (feat. Tom Bogert)

Episode Date: December 5, 2025

"And Roy." We've got a ton of pomp and circumstance to celebrate Tom Bogert joining the show ahead of the World Cup Draw, but the show's general behavior has Mike Ryan feeling like his foot was blown off by a propane tank. Today's cast: Dan, Zaslow, Chris, Jeremy, Mike, Roy, Tom, and Tony. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Nothing else is Rees. Zaz, is that Jeremy's brother in the back corner of the shipping container? Who is that back there? I don't know that, fool. I believe that we brought someone in because Mike Ryan needs to talk about a most historic finals match being played in soccer. I'm not enough for him. Well, Tony's not enough. Roy's not enough. Chris isn't enough.

I'm not enough. Jeremy's not enough. And Zaz isn't enough. What are we talking about again? You called it the finals. It's just a final. There's no ass. You know, like hockey.

singular game how many are there how many are there that are just called a okay I guess that's what it is singular when it's one game it's a final and when it's more than one game it's plural no not in not none it's weird I understand it's confusing battle court though that's a final we'll get to that in a second goosebumps no one's answered my question on who the hell that is that's Tom Bogart and the right hand corner of the welcome top from the athletic yeah And the Galazzo Network. He is... A hell of a mustache.

He's got a hell of a mustache. That is his number one accolade. But number two is he's the premier soccer insider in the United States. One of them. Behind me. It's me. Tom. Well, it's good, then.

We're going to have some people to talk soccer with on an important soccer day. They're going to be drawing ping pong balls today for 90 minutes of wild entertainment. Tony, what are you making faces? I can see that on Twitter. Just let me know who's on. Oh, Netherlands are here. Okay, cool. It is pretty absurd that we were talking about it before. I think this might be the third largest global audience for any sporting event, and it's the World Cup draw. No games being played. Just a lot of pomp and a whole lot of circumstance. Well, that's stupid. It is not stupid. What is your favorite pomp and what is your favorite circumstance?

Oh, today there's plenty of pomp. A lot of legends. Eli Manning is hosting a red carpet, Dan. You got draw assistance. You got the go-to-the-game. You got Shaq. You got Wayne Gretzky. You got Tom Brady and represent baseball Aaron Judge. So Jordan wasn't available.

Okay, but he's too busy doing those interviews from months ago with Mike Tarika. Are they still airing the same one, by the way? Have they done a fresh one yet? Are they still airing the Michael Jordan one from a couple of months ago? Do you think Shaq knows he wasn't the first choice? No. I think that Shaq probably assumes in all instances that he's always the first choice. Aaron Judge is the only active athlete out of that four, and they represent the big four sports in this.

It should have been Jeter, right? It should have been Jeter. Maybe he said, no, Judge, you also weren't the first choice. That's a close one. Was E. Rod busy? I mean, it's on Fox, right? What else are the highlights that involve the pomp and involve the circumstance? Finally, Donald Trump is going to get a Peace Award, correct? We're just not going to let Tom talk on any of this.

Tom, you want to talk about Trump's Peace Award? Not particularly. This is the Dan Levator show with the Stucat's podcast. A lot of fun sports stuff going on this weekend, beginning today, really. I was going to say at noon, but a little after that, with Battle of. court and the cyclones. Hold on. We'll get to that in a second. We've got a lot going on this weekend. We've got four football games that people are going to be interested. Colts, Jags, Bears, Packers, Texans, Chiefs, Steelers, Ravens. We have Inter-Miami playing for the championship.

We've got the World Cup draw. We've got Jeremy Tashay. What are you doing on the heat broadcast? Is this some sort of promotion, Jeremy? Is someone out sick? What's happening here? I mean, I'm sorry, Jeremy, what are you doing on the broadcast? I'm a courtside reporter. If somebody out sick, they called you? I do that. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I wasn't familiar with your game. My bad. The cyclones are playing a matinee a matinee today.

Closed to the public, although I saw Tony invited earlier today and Tony declined the invitation. I didn't decline, Dan. I got my battle court shirt on right now. I'm very excited, very ready. Yeah, you did decline. We asked you, hey, you want to come and you're like, I got a thing. What times is it at? 2.30 p.m. Eastern. We got the, like, Texans, Bengals, Saturday 4.30 window. Which is an insult because we're playing the Warriors. We're the top seed.

And as you know, Dan, this is Battlecourt's oldest rivalry. I don't understand how the playoffs work in your sport. Chris, can you help me understand how the playoffs work? You know what? The players are here to explain it to you. Take it away, fellas. These are the 424 playoffs works. The top four teams will meet a face off to secure a spot in the championship.

The top seeded team will face it. the fourth-seated team. The second-seated team will face off with the third-seated team. All matches are doubles for the playoffs. In guess of a tie, the high-city teams get to pick a double space to go to a tiebreak. Where it's a single set, where the first to six advances to the championship. Who are you hoping to see when the playoffs? Let's go!

The Cyclots! Yeah! The Devils! The Fireball! The Fireball! The Warriors, mama! The fireballs had more energy than the cyclones. I think we saw all that together.

We're conserving our energy. We have the 2.30 match. How are you guys feeling about things? And we'll get to Tom Bogart in a second, Jeremy's brother, because he has some legitimate soccer expertise to give us on what is a big, a giant soccer day. But you guys have been good owners of the cyclones, and you haven't been this relevant in a while.

You haven't been this competitive in a little bit. So we've actually been bad owners. We won the first title. And once they added teams to the league, this is our first appearance in the playoffs since they expanded to six teams. Now, we're loyal. We have had Manu as our stalwart.

He is the best back quarter in the world. And we've had a lot of bad luck over the last few seasons, right? But now we are the top seed. We are favored? The playoffs are doubles. and he's great at doubles, and you guys are great at doubles. Yeah, yeah. So Lord Willan, we'll punch our ticket to the battle court final.

I don't think the Lord cared. That's where you use Lord Willing? Hopefully, yeah. I've said two prayers in the last six months. Therefore, the Catholics to be sent to hell and for the cyclones to win battles. Match three has me nervous. There I'll say it. I forgot to tell you when we talk about heaven and hell and God that the Nicolans.

that the Nicholas Cage movie in which he plays Jesus' dad, it's a horror movie. I forgot to tell you guys. His name is Joseph, that, damn. He did it again. My bad, I'm thinking about the pots earlier. Cut it up.

Okay. Tom, I'm happy to have you here and your expertise, because for those of you who do not know, he is America's preeminent soccer authority. And in print, in print, I don't think I could do. I don't even call my dad dad. Wow, that's... They're like, what do we do it?

Let's talk about that. You confuse me with dad, the dad thing, Joseph is sad. So what's happening? Well, because not only did we rattle you, not only did we rattle you, for some reason, the way that you decided to fix it, was to say, I'm still rattled from pod talk in the meaning, which is basically something that only us know about. Group or pod? You know what? I've got to send him. It's Gino Fentz's his fault.

I agree with that. I'm going to send him away. Gino threw me a minor penalty two minutes murdering the show with their bare hands in a dismemberment kid in cold blood Out if I can say Gino was the one that threw the groups in the pause and then Listen your dad Tom When I tell you that Inter Miami is playing Vancouver for the championship We were talking about this earlier in the week

I didn't think any of this could happen quietly that Messi could be here that he could play this way and that inner Miami could be playing for a championship that I don't think Miami's exactly going to celebrate with a parade if they do win it this weekend. But can you put into context before we talk about the World Cup draw today what it means that Messi has come here and done this and how mismanaged has the selling of it been that it's happening somewhat quietly, that this is not a national or international story when he has grown the sport. He's done everything that's been asked of him. But, you it's happening pretty quietly. Yeah, in the soccer world, I wouldn't call it too quietly, but definitely in the mainstream

kind of American sports. Part of that is that it's behind a paywall, and part of that is they haven't really promoted it that well, but on the field, it's been awesome. He scored or assisted each one of the team's first 12 playoff goals. Each one, he had, I believe, 22 goals or assists in like a seven-game span. It is unbelievable, and I wish that we were talking about it more and talking more about the on-field stuff, then, hey, why is nobody caring? I know that in sports in general, whether it's Tom Brady or LeBron James or Serena Williams or Diana Tarasi, that athletes now can play into their 40s.

But can you give me some historical context for Messi still being this good at this age? Because I really thought that they'd be getting a faded star, not somebody who would be, you know, either scoring or assisting their first 12 playoff goals. Yeah, he's just an alien. There isn't real precedence for what he's doing. Obviously, MLS is a lesser league than. in La Liga or Spain or England or France or whatever, but he's still doing this with the Argentine national team.

He is still viewed as one of the very best players in the world. At his age, obviously pace and agility and the physical attributes matter, but it's his brain, it's his technique. While his left foot is the best of all time, I think his best ability is his intelligence of movement and his way to camouflage himself within the action because there is nobody that you should be paying attention to

more if you're a defender, And he constantly finds ways to just hide and then sprint and it's a tap-in. And people are like, oh, why aren't you marking messy? He's just so smart. And I think that's his best quality. How and why is it that he is non-committal still about the World Cup? What is the logic in that if he's playing this well, clearly he's going to play in the World Cup, right? It's jarring to me.

It's weird that he keeps saying, I don't know if I'm going to play at the World Cup. When at first it was, I just want to wear the crest one more time with the gold logo after winning the World Cup. and then he continues to play, he continues to be really, really great, and he still says things like, I don't know if, obviously he's playing at the World Cup. Is he doing what the committee's doing with Notre Dame Miami, just like keeping us interested? If he said yes a year ago, then we're not asking. Or there'll be some big announcement.

Obviously, it will be a big announcement when he makes it, even if it's anti-climate. Or maybe does he like the idea that my last World Cup game, we finally won the World Cup? Then he wouldn't be continuing to play in Friendlies. They just got back from, like, Africa. They played Angola for no reason. than money, and he's playing in that game. We'll get to the World Cup draw in a second, but I think that Zaslo at ESPN is now challenging

Stephen A. Smith for hardest working man in show business. I heard his recycled Chris Paul takes on the radio last night with Amber. He was doing the same Chris Paul takes he did in the morning. Whole different audience, Dan. You want him to have a new take? He was back to opposite take. No, I just wanted him to have different points. It doesn't have to be a different take.

hadn't heard me say it yet. We're doing a show. Amber listens and watches our show. She had heard you say it. But also, was Mario Cristobal on with you last night? Hell yeah. So that's a third show. That's a third show. You're like 13th. Okay. He's been on Cody. He's been on Keynes inside. He's been on Zaz. Hell yeah, coach. Yes, he has made the rounds. It seems clear that he does not like me or Jeremy Tash. It's because he's afraid of me, right? He's afraid of my logical arguments? You call them logical. And strength? I think he might be not wanting to be around general hijinks on our show, but it could just be that he dislikes you.

What did Mario Cristobal have to say on Zaslo's show 2.0? I mean, I asked him here, I wanted to know if the way he feels right now, if it's similar at all to last year, because last year at this time, 10-win team on the bubble of the college football playoff. And yeah, here he was. this is the second year in a row you're a 10-win team you're on the bubble last year you guys got left out the way you feel now is it similar to the way you felt last year or is this year different oh it's completely different you know i guess the best way to explain that i felt last year you know we lost that last game to syracuse and we were probably battling i think it was a

nine and three team so we had a really good offense we did not have a very good defense and we did not play our best football at the end. In fact, we were playing poor defense. I felt like it was debatable. Like there was definitely some arguments in our favor and some that I couldn't make. I couldn't say we have a complete team and we're playing our...

I couldn't say that. To me, that was, all right, their best points, which are really good versus ours because we have some holes in ours. It's a debate. This year, it's not. This is about facts being presented and I just think that we have the best case scenario.

You have a head-to-head, same record, and common opponents, and statistical data showing that we are playing our absolute best football. Whose computer was that? That's embarrassing, Zaz. You're on ESPN with that? You could at least cut that out of the clip? That was his computer. What can I do about that?

Why didn't you cut it out of the clip there? I mean, the clip was a minute, 15 seconds long. It could have been a minute, 14 and a half seconds. Like, why would you not just cut that out of the clip when you put it in? Our absolute best football. I'm going to stop it at absolute best. That is a Flanagan's Cup in the background. What are our thoughts on Marcus Freeman?

Are we seeing him look a little mopier these days? Does he physically look a little? Zaz he didn't get Freeman? Still hot as hell, but mopier because he realized what's coming this way. If you read his body language, and the players, too, you could say that Notre Dame is taking their cues from their head coach and they're handling this with class, which they are. But here's why they're handling it with class. It's because they're football guys. And I can guarantee you.

Mario Cristobal may be out there doing like some media stuff. Zaz, I went over the other. That's a fine. Mario Cristobal would be doing some media stuff, but it would all be about Oklahoma and Alabama. I'm embarrassed. All right. He's got to go. He's got to go, dad.

He's got to go. Take him out of your dad. It's a mistake. We got to probably two minutes. Delay a show. I'm embarrassed. Incredibly distracting. Here we go.

Why do you say that to me? What I'm trying to say is, Mario Cristobal may be out there like arguing common opponent with Alabama. We beat FSU. Might be arguing. Look at all the metrics. We're much better than Oklahoma. As bad as our defense was last year, that's as bad as their offense was.

But if he lost a Notre Dame was sitting at the same record, I guarantee you with every fiber of my being, Mario Cristobal would not be out there publicly saying that Miami deserves to be in there ahead of Notre Dame, and I can guarantee you the same for myself. I would not be doing that. I would turn my attention to that lackluster pot of SEC teams that I think is wildly overrated. But Notre Dame has, you would think that they benefited from this CFP discourse, it's actually done them wrong because they're going to wake up Sunday morning, toe to toe to with Miami, something that they do not want. They're the chicken shit heel, Hollywood Hogan

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A penis? You know what? If someone takes a foul ball to the penis, we should just say he took a foul ball to the penis. Stugats. That free kick hit him right in the cock-a-doodle-doo. This is the Dan Lebatar show with a Stugat. I am being told two things by the producers of this show. One is that thing with Zazlo did not go out over the air.

It was just for you and Chris Cody. So you need to leave now. Minor penalty, too many. It was an old call. So it was not something that everyone heard. The audience. We all heard it. It was distracting to all of us.

but the audience missed it. He was trying to speak to Jeremy, and he did an all call. Okay. That's on the line. Well, we'll need Judge Zaz to rule out. All right. That means you get out, though. The other thing that the producers are pointing out to me, that's right.

I just talked to me for 30 seconds, making great points. Nobody listened to me. Nobody. Everybody was talking for the entire 30 seconds and I was talking. Because you didn't include BYU. Hey, you shut up. I have to listen to him. Out.

Jack shit. Out. delay of show, please respect the call. The other reason that I wasn't listening to you while you were talking is because the producers were also telling me the entire time, hey, the new guy looks like Nacho Libre. Like they're all pointing out that he looks like Nacho Libre. And so that's why I couldn't hear what it is you were saying.

So Nacho, please tell me what it is that it means both worldwide and in America, the draw that we're about to watch. today as the World Cup comes to the United States, and I'm going to really enjoy ramping up World Cup coverage as we get closer and closer to the world's biggest sporting event. Yeah, today's a big day. You find out the groups will learn who the United States are paired against. They are in pot A, which means they will not draw... Told you.

They will not draw Argentina, France, the best teams in the world. You get one team per pot, and we'll find out the other three opponents for the United States. and obviously everybody else, except kind of there are still playoffs going on. So the pot for, what is air quote the worst, you could get Italy if they do qualify through UEFA's playoffs. So it's going to be a big day. We'll know where the games are. We'll know what times, all that stuff except for, again, the playoffs. Do you enjoy today? No. Not a little bit. Not even a little bit. The pomp and circumstance with FIFA, I hate it. They invented a Peace Prize award to give to Donald Trump. And I think today is going to take, I don't know,

nine hours. So you hate that, but the world loves it, right? When you talk about, Mike was saying it's the third when he was saying it was the third most, it's going to be the third most viewed sporting event thing that there is. Cowboys, the football game last week. Cowboys Chiefs Thanksgiving did

$52 million. It's not going to do that, right? Oh, it's going to do well more than that. Maybe. Globally. Well more. So you're saying third largest viewing, putting it behind what in terms of what the numbers are when you put it at third. I think you might touch a billy on this

global audience. Get out of here. You get out of here. I just served a penalty for some bullshit. You get out of here. How about you push through when someone's distracted you? Maybe you could be a little bit professional. Don't talk to me how to be a pro. I'm just saying. I was being a pro. Just push through, man. I'm being a pro. Zazlo was a pro yesterday on our show. He was a pro on ESPN radio. He was a pro on his show.

Zaslo was working very hard these days, giving his opinion everywhere. What else did Mario Cristobal have to say to you? because I wish you'd been in here when Mike was making the point that Mario Cristobal, he guaranteed it with every fiber of his being, not some of the fibers, not a percentage of the fibers, all of the fibers in his entire being. He guaranteed that Mario Cristobal would not be out here making the rounds like this if he had lost to Notre Dame.

I thought that was, I think Mike's right, because Cristobal said the exact same thing to me, and I thought that that was super interesting, and I thought it was classy, because I said to him, I don't remember you campaigning, like this last year. And then he specifically told me that's because I was raised the right way. He knows he has a good hand.

And I think people are going to be shocked tomorrow when they tune in on Saturday morning and they realize this discourse that has been kicked down the road is going to totally flip on Notre Dame. You're going to have Nick Saban. You're going to have Greg McElroy. You're going to have Craig McElroy. You're going to have

pretty much everybody unified in acknowledging the most obvious thing in sport. It's not a hot take. If you lost a game to a team with the same, record, the team you lost you was ahead of you. And they are all going to come out in uniform, in consensus. And they are all going to be arguing for Miami ahead of Notre Dame. You meant unison, right? Because now you've got them in uniform. It works as well, but I have them in Catholic school here. You know, my relationship with today's show, not great. Everybody's

being a real asshole except for Tom. Wait a minute. And Roy. Thank you. I was listening to when you were talking about Miami. You're fine. Thank you. So just me then Tom Can you And bad Can you explain Tom

What you expect to happen In who's going to be in our group Inter-Miamic No no no I want to Yeah predict the ping pong No no no Who are we trying to avoid in B

I want to talk about We've got What do we want and B A final on Saturday For a championship in Miami And while I might not have the interest Of the room The entirety of the room

every fiber of the being of the room. I do know that there are a lot of South Floridians. They might not be Americans. They might not be here, born in this country, but... No one's going to actually watch this final in terms of like common sports fan, right? Maybe some casuals go find this game on Network Fox. But if Inter Miami win this game, there is going to be a parade. There will be.

And maybe some of you might be, pasha, parade, why? Where is this parade going to be? by Chase Sadium, by the old Boomer's location, it would be the biggest parade in the history of South Florida sports. I am curious as to what is going to happen on Monday if Inter-Miamy wins on Saturday. But when I was asking Tom, not just for prediction, because I don't know who he favors or why, but is it good for the sport if Messi and Inter-Miamy win?

Is it better for the sport if Messi and Inter-Miamy win? it's good that they're in this game and that I'm on this show talking about this game for Miami and Messi to get to the final whether they win or lose I think this is still a huge moment for MLS this is going to be the last day of Messi 1.0 in Miami

Jordi Alba, Sergio Buskets are retiring maybe probably Louis Suarez and then 2.0 starts after this so it's either are they defending a title or are they still trying to get back over that home so either way I think it works for the sport it's bigger than if Vancouver wins Dan for America

for the sport is what I was asking. I wasn't asking about America. Let's ask Don Garber. What's bigger for you? Messy winning a championship? Or Vancouver? Or the white caps. What are the betting odds?

Do we know who's favored? Miami heavily. So, okay, so Miami, it would be a pretty large disappointment and large upset if Vancouver ends up beating into Miami. Do you think the parade, if they do win, would come close to what? Greg Cody did in his famous parade with us. I think you're going to get people coming from added everywhere in South Florida just to catch a glimpse of Messy. Do you think it'll start or end at the Wendy's on commercial?

There is one thing though, despite Miami being a favorite against Vancouver, Thomas Mueller is playing for Vancouver, and that is the boogeyman. I don't know that fool. Well, Messi knows that fool because Messi does not have much luck against Mueller head to head. You'll forgive my ignorance here, but how rare is it for a team? Like the Bugaboo last year was the first round and they lose to Atlanta. This year they get through the first round. How rare is it to win the two games before the final four one? You know, by the number of goals that they've won,

they've outscored their opponents as the things have gotten tighter. Definitely very rare. They have dominated everybody in this playoff front. Last season when they lost, that is historically the biggest upset in MLS playoff history. and this is a league that is built on chaos, it's built on upsets, and things like that. So it was a huge, huge disappointment last year. And this year, they've gotten much better. Obviously, the goals is what everybody's going to watch, talk about, because it's messy.

But they've gotten much better defensively. They played Vancouver in May in the Champions League, essentially, in Concca Keff. Vancouver, in leg one, at home, killed them. And then they came down to Miami. Everybody expected Miami to come back and win, and Vancouver dominated them off the pitch in this stadium. So they're much better than they. were in May, particularly defensively, but that's why Vancouver have a real shot. Maybe it's just a phase you're going through.

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I didn't realize we had a substitute complicated legacy. Brought to by headquarters of Toyota, huh? 441, Powerline Road. Second down to nine. This is the Dan Lebatar show with the Stugats. Roy, I'm worried about, in general, your mental health as it regards the Panthers. They've now lost five in a row at home. Last night, Bobrovsky was good.

He was excellent, and they still lost at home, five in a row at home. However, if I had told you, right before the season started they're going to have the injuries they have and they're going to be 12 and 12 they're going to be 12 12 they're going to be at 500 you would have yeah yeah I actually would

I would have you look where we are in the stand who's injured last place considering who's injured yes I would have taken that they will get better this season but their last place I understand Aaron last but I just asked I didn't ask him about last place that speaks to the difficulty of the conference I just said if I told you

after 25 games, they'd be 500, and Kachuk would be out, and you'd, you know, you've got Barkoff out, would you have taken a 500 record? Why are you guys in disagreement on that? You're just bothered by last place? Because they're in last, and they're the lowest scoring team in the conference, yeah. But you know the reason for it? Of course, but, and they're going to get Kachuk back soon, but there are still a ton of other injuries on this team.

Like, yes, Matthew Kach is going to help, but just. Matthew Kachuk is it's so hard to gain ground in this league because the three-point games, they're in last place. Like, I'm super concerned about them missing the playoffs. For reference, Matthew Kachuk spoke to reporters after his very first skate around with the team. And he's like, I feel so much better today than I did during the cup flying. And that's exciting. It is.

But again, so hard to gain ground in this league. And they're in last. I mean, you went four in a row all of a sudden. You climb halfway up the east. I'm not in last by the way. Buffalo's in last. Ah, Buffalo. I'm wondering though, as we talk about this, what is the more disappointing way to not be able to defend two consecutive titles? Is it getting eliminated in the playoffs when you're healthy or just being unhealthy and having a reason that's not the team has gotten worse, you've got an explanation? This is low-key so much better than being defeated. was so envious of how the Warriors dynasty, well, even though they won afterwards, but the KD incarnation of the Warriors went out because they could, even though the Raptors, I still firmly believe, would have won that series. They get to hang their hat on Clay and KD getting hurt,

and you always have that in your back pocket if you're a Warriors fan. I agree. And no one actually took out the Florida Panthers. Injury took them out. And we rebuild next year, but you could always say, when you tell the story of the Florida Panthers. From being so banged up from all the winning That's right. They went to three straight Stanley Cup finals. I think in that instance, you do put the S on. I like a good excuse, Dan. So when we talk about Bobrovsky being bad this year, how much of that do we chalk up to the fact that he has had to be under the pressure of 69 playoff games? The last three years. But, okay, but you said their defense sucks before I asked the question, which you still haven't answered. I couldn't wait. But you didn't answer the question, which is.

He's been bad this year, but how much does that have to do with? You've played 69 playoff games the last three years under an intensity that seems to be super-pressurized, and you're the one guy who's never getting hurt. You've got to imagine all those extra minutes that you're playing add up. I mean, Barkov, it seemed to be a fluke injury. It got hurt like the second he touched the ice in preseason camp. And we know that historically you get banged up. Actually, this most recent cup final was Florida's best luck when it came.

to injuries. But when you look at what troubles them specifically right now, it's goal scoring. We know that they have talented goal scorers out. And the forecheck is really lacking. And it's not just Barkov. That one's obvious. But Lucer Reinen, like that freak barbecue accident, he is one of the more. Don't you know what even happened there? What are the details there? He's mentioned this. He's mentioned this a couple of times now. And at this point now, I need to ask follow-up questions. All right, fine. I had a team barbecue. What was the barbecue accident? What do you imagine barbecue accidents look like? Because I've got an exploding grill. It's got to be around the grill, correct? It's not apart from the grill. If you're

saying it's a barbecue accident, it has to be around where the fire and the barbecue are. No, Peter Burns had a barbecue accident, remember? His name is Burns, and he had a barbecue accident, and I assume it has to be the grill. Lower body injury with the propane tank. This is why I don't know. Did it explode? Like, that has to be it. I've got it being a barbecue at Ekblad's house. Ekblad's on the grill, flip it a burger. Luce Drainan's like 10 feet away. He's got a plate with a bun on it. He's like, here you go. Coming in hot! And he flips it over and it hits him right in the eye.

No, he just ate too much and went to Tummyick City for a while. A lower a lower leg injury involving a propane tank suggests to me that he didn't run into the propane tank. He's not on a landmine? Like, what happened? He's actually kind of lucky because it was kind of like a

freaky week when it came to hockey and off ice injuries. Luke Hughes cut his finger off. Oh, like in the kitchen. Jack Hughes. With Frank the tank. Yeah, like, yeah, he was just chopping it up in the kitchen and he cut his finger off. Sure, Dan.

With Frank the tank. You know Frank the tank? Was there an explosion with the propane tank? Do we know if they are basically our hockey players now playing through landmine explosions of the lower body? You got to be happy that Jack Hughes did that thing now. The exploding propane tank under the radar, but we miss him. Come back. The cutting off of the finger, clearly there's no game time missed there, right?

A hockey player just continues to play through a cutoff finger. Nope, nope, no, no, he is out for a couple of months. They were able to reattach it. I don't know how well. How did it happen? How did they do that? They say to put it in milk. You put it in milk?

Yeah, I think so. I think you put the finger in milk because you take it to the hospital and you're like, hey, I got a thing. And they're like, hey. I always heard it was ice. Is your finger in milk? Good. Look it up. Put it on the poll. Better than looking it up. Put it on the poll at Lebitard Show. If you cut off your fingers, should you put it in milk? I don't know if you guys saw nobody too. I enjoyed it because I love the idea that action stars are now getting older and older and older.

And you can't do better than Bob Odenkirk as funny, old. And it's a great action movie somehow, even though it stars Bob Odenkirk. But there is a scene, and spoiler alert, there's a scene in that movie where someone just slices off his finger, he chases it as it rolls off of a boat, and then a fish eats it. I don't know. I do not know if he intended to put that in milk or not. But Tony is telling you that the way to, Tony, I don't know why you have such knowledge about dismemberment things. Yeah, but you've got suspicious knowledge is in suspicious areas where you're. You just simply know how to hide things. The human heart, and panic.

The criminal moments. The internet is saying for a severed finger, you should wrap it in a moist cloth or gauze, place it in a sealed plastic bag and then put it in an ice and rush to the ER. Milk is not recommended. Not recommended, but again, who will we listen to? Who is that, Gem and I can remember. What is it, WebMD? Come on.

Google AI. Exactly. Thank you. Point for humans. We do not know if the milk helps the severed finger or not. I imagine if you don't have ice and the milk's cold, you know, fine, but I'm going nice. Okay, I'm glad you imagine that, and I'm glad that you've offered your particular wisdoms to this conversation. Zaz, I got a text last night from Nick Wright as soon as LeBron James's, well, I don't think you're going to be happy with what it is that he had to say, but as soon as LeBron James's streak ended,

LeBron James had scored double figures in every game he had played in since 2007. And last night, he scored eight points, but he assisted on the game winner. And Nick Wright just wrote to me, asked Zaz what he thinks about how LeBron ended his streak now. Yeah. I mean, I think that he made the type of play that he's been making his entire career, but for everyone to say that he chose to win the game instead of get his streak, he didn't get his streak because he was four for 17, all right? Like, that's why he didn't get the streak,

not because he chose to do the unselfish thing. What I sent Nick Wright's response was something that you texted me as soon as the streak ended, which is LeBron's streak is over, Dan. He definitely wanted that shot to miss at the end and go into overtime. time. And then Nick Wright just wrote back, he's an all-time dope. Talk about me? About Zaz? He called you a sucker. Wait. Zazz is the dope? He's an all-time dope. I'll apologize to Nick Wright right here, all right? Because maybe he's off his rocker now since I owned him a couple days ago on the show. So you know what? I'm not even

going to take offense to that he may be reeling based on me dominating him in that debate. So here is LeBron talking after the game about, and no one asked him the question, were you hoping that the game winner wouldn't go in so that you go into overtime? No one asked him that. By the way, because we all know the answer. It is a really funny, silly thing that we do with numbers because LeBron's streak of scoring eight points in a game since 2007 is still in play. That's on. That's still alive. But because the 10 points is no longer alive, If LeBron is asked, then this is what he says after the game. Now that the streak has ended for you, what feelings did you have if any?

What about it did? None. We won. Is there an honest bone in his body? A fiber in his being? An honest fiber in his being? Dan, he remained the last game he played. He was in the game in the fourth quarter down by 20.

to keep the streak going. Like, is there an honest bone in his body? I'm going to hold your feet to the propane tank here. Do you think he's falling off? Like, is this, like, Jeter's last season? All-Star till 50? Is it? Yes.

Because, like, Nick Wright's calling you a dope when that guy said he'd be an all-star at the age of 50. And that's aging like the milk we're putting a disembodied finger in. Yes. I think we're seeing the beginning of the end. Not that I think he's going to retire this year, because I think LeBron is going to announce a farewell tour,

which I think will last multiple years, all right? One year of giving LeBron presents and flowers every time he goes to your buildings on enough. I think it's going to be two years. But I do think that we're seeing the beginning of the end. This has to be the worst take of the year by Nick, right? Like if we're looking back at this entire year of shows, saying LeBron would be an All-Star at 50 and then what he's done so far.

Don't be too hard on him. He's shook based on what I did today. But just wait a minute, all right? Worst take of the year. When it comes, you say worst take of the year, But when it comes to nominating most obvious take of the day, really. It's the beginning of the end for LeBron. This is 23rd season.

He said till 50. We didn't say, we didn't make him say that. At least he had the courage to answer the question, Dan. He's the oldest player in the league? Like, what do you mean? Of course it's the beginning of the end. It's been the beginning of the end. It should have been the beginning of the end 10 years ago.

But it never felt like it. But now it feels like it. We started feeling like it as soon as Nick said that. Yeah. Yeah, we haven't seen him like, ah, let me sit out for a month because my back hurts. Let me throw up a four for 17. This is one of the most efficient basketball players in the history of the game. I don't recognize that guy.

He's got sciatica, gout, leprosy. Right, then don't say he'll be an all-star till 50. Like, you're proving our point of how he dumb it was. He literally gave a quote. Like, when you wake up this age, something new hurts every day. You're not making it until 50. No, I think they're just building this offense around Luca. I think what LeBron needs is a wide open offense where everybody shares the ball,

and there's lots of body movements to get everyone else involved. Hey, I'm with him on this thing. Yeah, it's true. I would take him today. Also, that streak should have ended in 2011 in the NBA finals, but that doesn't count. Chris, you're so right about Jeremy. He's like your dad. He's got his head.

He's got his head. I'm doing a thing on purpose. No, but make it hide it. That's why I'm doing it. Just put a ham on the screen. I know how to do it.