The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Too Much Information Too Soon

Episode Date: October 15, 2024

Stugotz is trying to avoid talking about the Jets loss last night by addressing the Mets, whether or not Halloween should be a gift-giving holiday and even the Miami Hurricanes, but Chris Cote does not let him get away with it. We dive into the result from last night and why Mike Ryan thinks the right team won. Also, have the Jets actually improved with Aaron Rodgers as their quarterback? The stats suggest maybe not. Plus, penalties are an epidemic around the NFL and took over the game last night. Greg Cote is tired of announcers telling us what penalty is being called before the refs call it and the doink is the most wonderful sound in sports. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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here. He also has them sitting right in front of my television screens. Oh wow. I'm sorry. Let me move that. Yeah. Yeah. But you have stacked a new book on top of a you're writing two, not one, but two books that are going to be released later this year. Correct? Uh no. Pride

of Alliance already out. Oh it is. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Thanks for noticing. It's been a year. Okay. Yeah. Thanks for noticing. It's been a year. That came out like a year and a half ago. Listen I'm focused on writing my book. I mean that's what I'm doing right now. That book comes out late November. Stigatz's personal record book but you are onto your second book already. I'm jealous. Yeah the back of my day book comes out October 29th right before Halloween. Talk about a beautiful Halloween gift. Yeah. You know order it, you know

Give it. Yeah, yeah people. Let's make Halloween a gift-giving holiday. I agree with you Greg That's a great idea other than you mean like the Reese's pumpkins and like yes the Reese's ghosts. Do they make ghosts? I think they do. Yeah, all the candy now is holiday oriented, which I hate, You know, it started off as just the green and red Christmas, you know, M&Ms with a nut in the middle of it, but now it's everything. It's too much. Greg's right. I mean, thanks.

I think that Halloween is a gift-giving holiday. It's just become a candy-giving holiday. And the thing is, thinking about this, the book is the perfect pumpkin stuffer or whatever you'd have right because now so many kids out there have nut allergies and gluten allergies and all this I don't know many they're allergic to books I tell you what I think you're on to something you know what you do is you pre-order you know on the 29th you go to your local bookstore

right I don't know what your neighbor here would like in terms of kid traffic, but buy a hundred books and give them out to neighbor kids. Right. And enjoy the look on the face of a five-year-old when you hand him a book. I think it would be just joyful. When you hand him a book, he's never going to read and doesn't care about. Yeah. Yes. I mean, I hate going to a house and they give me a couple of pennies for UNICEF. I can't stand that. No, I don't like anything other than candy

when I was a kid. Right. You know, you don't wanna get anything. I don't want a lottery ticket. You know, don't give me anything, just give me candy. And it has to be good candy. Sure. Well, hold on, we're arguing that they should be giving

your book though. Correct. Well, that's true. The book is ideal. That's why we gotta turn it into a gift-giving holiday, which it's never been You know, I mean other than giving out candy. Is it possible that back in my day So like sometimes movies are made like die-hard for example, and then people debate Wow, is this a Christmas movie? Is it not a Christmas movie?

They do that with Harry Potter's to like our Harry Potter movies Christmas movies Is it possible back in my days that Halloween book and you had not considered it? You know what? I think it's a holiday book. Really? Yeah. All-encompassing. And the reason I say that, there's like hundreds of back of my days in here. I'm making up that number. There could be 90, but it feels like there's hundreds. And I think all of the major holidays have a back of my day. Like I know I did one on Thanksgiving. I think there's one on Halloween. There's one on, you know, Christmas tree buying. So there's a lot of holiday themed back of my day.

So I do consider it a holiday book. I do like the idea of giving a gift rather than giving candy on Halloween. I do, I like that idea. It's a nice little. It is. Especially if it's my book. Well, especially if it's your book, but just any gift.

Yeah, probably gifts, but you know more geared towards kids, right? Yeah, another gift that a book is better than a lot of gifts. It's definitely better than the homemade anything. You know, if don't give me a homemade muffin wrapped in cellophane for a gift because I don't know where that came from. Sure. You know, did you say someone gave you a lottery card like a lot of car scratch off ticket? It's been done. Really? It's been done. Huh? You did that for my dad recently. Yeah, I know. But it wasn't Halloween. Like I have a kid knocking at my door expecting candy and what I'm dropping in there is, you know, a scratch off ticket. Yeah. No, somebody gave me like 10. In fact, you was it you? Yes. You gave me. I just said

that. Yeah. And I parlayed that. I parlayed that for like 40 bucks, by the way. You know, did you really? Yeah. You want 40 bucks? Yeah. On my lottery tickets? Absolutely. He's got to look for a cut. I mean, I would be pissed if I gave someone a lottery ticket and they want a bunch of money off of it. That's a dangerous game. I think when you gave them you said that you were splitting a 50-50 So it sounds like yo still gots 20 80 20 I owe more than which by the way 20 Greg if you just hand them the book is what your book costs Yes, coincidentally, so you just hand them your book. I feel like you're good. Yeah, thank you $20 Greg a little pricey for a book. Yeah, if somebody gives you a lottery ticket

What is the unwritten rule on that? Like, do you? Well, I told you on the front end that if you win the lottery, if you win the jackpot that we would split it fifty fifty, you agreed to that. I don't think I did. Well, you definitely did.

I think the giver gets 10%. You also didn't win the jackpot. So. True. Wait, how does this work? If you were to buy Powerball tickets, which I think is like, I don't know, $500 million right now, the jackpot. If I was to gift Greg Powerball tickets and he won the lottery, how much should I expect to get back?

Okay, let's do it the other way. Should Greg give you a Powerball ticket and you win the lottery? How much are you gonna give Greg? Nothing. Okay, there you go. It has to be prearranged. You have to have a lottery packed.

Yeah, what's a fair prearrangement though? I think it comes down to the character of the man. Depends what you agree on. Yeah has to be pre-arranged. You have to have a lottery packed. Yeah. What's a fair pre-arrangement though? I think it comes down to the character of the man. It depends what you agree on. Yeah, I agree with you, Mike. With my friends, it's 50-50. Really? Yeah, we have a lottery packed.

Oh, wow. If someone buys me a lottery ticket and I win, I'll have like a discretionary budget for what I give them as a thank you. You'll take care of that. I agree with that. Right. This agreement needs to be on paper. Well, I do this thing when I go to Publix or a gas station and I buy the lottery tickets,

I always tell the lady or or the guy. I say, hey, if I win, I'm coming back. I'm going to retire you. No way. I say it every single time and I say, I hope you got it on film. You don't mean it though. I don't mean it but it just feels like something you should say when you're purchasing lottery tickets. Yeah. I don't know if you guys caught on to this and I'm wondering if Jess meant to say it but she said that she has a 50-50 pact with her friends plural meaning it seems as though you have 50-50 pact with multiple people which is a very heady play should they ever win the lottery now how should you win the lottery I don't know how you're gonna deliver 50% to multiple people.

I just mean like equal split. Like if it's four people, then 25, 25, 25. You're doing it the wrong way. You gotta do 50, 50 with all your friends. Cause you're likely never gonna. Like I get 50 and then they all split the remaining. No, like you just say, look, look, I'm just doing this with you, 50, 50, just the two of us.

Just between us gals. Yeah, you give a little wink and then you get the 50 should they win. And then if you win, you're never gonna win. So you never have to deliver 50% to like six other people. But if it's $500 million, like I feel like I would because what would I do with all that money? I'm gonna give it to people. You could find things to do. Yeah, you could. Yeah. Give it to me. I mean, I'll take it off your hands. We have a national championship in South Bend within the year. Mike, Mike, if you won the lottery, would you take care of all the people on this show? 500 million dollars. On the show? Yes. Yes. Like you would throw Roy a couple of million. I mean, I mean, I guess I, I just never thought of it. I've never thought about ever winning the lottery. How much is Robert getting?

Kick him like a good three hundred and fifty dollars right that seems fair Going oh hell no Just no football and women's basketball eat first Where is your business taking you this week business trip to Louisville, Kentucky. Oh, that's a short trip. That is a nice down. Nice down, yes. It's going to be like 40 degrees. Oh, I'm so jealous. Nervous? Are you nervous about that game?

I think it's a tricky spot. I think if you watch the last two Miami games, you can't take any opponent for granted. Miami's only a four and a half point favorite. When looking at the schedule at the beginning of the year and trying to predict spots where Miami could slip up, a lot of people were saying, this is one of those tricky spots.

So, anybody, I think what college football has taught everyone this year is that if you're in a power of four, you can't take anybody lightly. There's been a lot of talent that's been distributed, and maybe not evenly, but certainly distributed more evenly than it was several years ago. So, no, I'm not taking this one for granted. I think this

one could be dicey. Stugats thinks he's slick. You're gonna ask Mike about Miami? You think we're not gonna talk about the Jets? What do you think? You think you just we've gone way too long without hearing the doing. I have shifted all my attention to the Mets and Major League Baseball because the baseball playoffs are great. I could tell what you were doing as soon as this show started. He's like, he's not gonna mention the Jets. I quickly said it. Let's get to the play Mike was talking about. It's a play that summarizes

what it's like to be a Jets fan. Good snap, good hold. Kick is off the upright again. The best sound in sports. What, the doink? Yeah. Really? No, it's great. I mean. Yeah. I mean, not if it's your team, but. Is What, the doink? Yeah. Really? No, it's great.

I mean, not if it's your team. Right. Is that the isolated doink? Yeah, because Joe Buck kind of steps on it, so it's a little abbreviated, but yeah. Can you play the full thing again? Because it's the loudest doink I have ever heard during a football game.

Good snap, good hold. Kick is off. It's ridiculously loud. It's meant to humiliate the kicker, that doink. No, Greg is right. It's funny every single time. Unless it's your team. It's funny if it's your team, I gotta be honest. It is. The only thing funnier in football than a doink is the fat lineman trying to run for a touchdown and falling at the three. Why can't they score? You like it when they fall at the three funnier

I like it when they score and celebrate you don't want to see the celebration No, really not since refrigerator Perry. Oh, yeah, the fat guy celebration died with him as far as I'm concerned. Thank you woods It's well. Yeah, but was he considered fat. I think he was yeah, Mike. Icky Woods was considered He was a fatty was chubby right full backs. Yeah, full backs. It was a different time, yeah. Now they all look like use check. If they're still around. Icky Woods, little belly, little belly on him.

They have gotten good looking. Alec Engold for the Dolphins, good looking. Yeah, you have to be. You have to be to play full back. Good looking full backs, huh? Greg Zerlin signed a $8.4 million contract. Yeah. Legatron.

I mean, the ball looks different leaving his foot. There's no question. Are the laces in? What is happening with this guy? He's terrible. He's terrible. He is terrible. Jets lose 23 to 20 last night.

And somehow, Aaron doesn't blame him. Well, that's who I was talking about. Yeah. I mean, do you have the sound of Aaron blaming everyone but himself in the in the postgame press conference because it's really frustrating. You finally get a quarterback like we now he's past his prime. He's old. He's coming off an Achilles injury We have lost the last three games by a total of ten points Yeah, and Aaron Rodgers was supposed to fix that he's got to be the positive difference in closed games I've been losing three games by a total of ten points my entire life as a jet fan

And this was the guy that was supposed to come in and change all that uh... and he has it and it's been really disappointing to watch it's been really disappointing uh... as a jet fan here is a rogers after the game blaming everyone but himself this in the world because yes i seemed really bad, including the roughing the passer on me. That's not roughing the

passer. I was able to play sarcastic ball if we're going to call those things. And I thought the one on Kinloch was not roughing the passer either. You got to love that though. Yeah, I do give him credit for that. Like what he's doing there is saying, hey, even the penalty on me, which benefited our team, bad call. Right. Yeah the rest were bad. Right I mean basically he's taken all the heat off himself. Yes. With no cause. Yeah. You know I mean at some point maybe I'm overboard on this but I've been saying it for a

while now at some point Jets fans have to say you know what maybe the Aaron Rogers experiment isn't working and and you can't blame him for the Achilles last year, but you can sort of blame him for losing all these close games. Defense looks worse. It's weird because they had a pretty good defensive coach that was handling his side of the ball. The video that we didn't play

was him throwing Mike Williams under the bus. Because I'm glad he clarified that, because on the field, you didn't really know that Aaron had an issue with what happened there at all. He was purely professional there. I saw an Instagram comment on his Mike Williams portion, and it's like, credit to him,

he can still make two throws very well. Hail Mary and under the bus. Well, that's the other thing. The game was closer than it appeared because they had a lucky play at the end of the first half. Otherwise, it's 20- 2010 going into halftime. Look, they missed kicks, but also that sky judge thing with the tuck roll, that could have gone either way. That looked like he brought it down and it was a fumble. Like

if that was a call on the field, I don't, I don't know. That could have gone either way. It's just, that's a bad lawsuit. This Trey Wingo tweeted it out through six games. Zach Wilson under center scored 113 points foringo tweeted it out. Through six games, Zach Wilson, under center, scored 113 points for the New York Jets. The six games this season with Aaron Rodgers, under center, Jets have scored 113 points. He was supposed to be the difference. You watched the Jets last year.

It was very clear they were being held back by their quarterback. So you bring in the highest rated quarterback of all time. And when it comes to QB rating, he's still, we'll see after last night, but he still had the edge over Patrick Mahomes. And he's just not the same guy. And we've mentioned it a couple of times.

We all had it in our brains as all these guys got older and we're putting up numbers when they were older, Tom Brady kind of warped the aging process for quarterbacks in that we thought that, yeah, Drew Brees, once he hits 40, he'll be the same guy. And Rogers, once he hits 40, he'll be the same guy. No, there's two guys that have been able to like be really good and surprise people with their age. Brett Favre, who actually is like, you want to talk about quarterback rating, he's rated worse than Nick Foles all the time, but he had a great season with the Minnesota Vikings. And Tom Brady won a Super Bowl in his mid-40s, beating

the greatest quarterback of all time, arguably, and Patrick Mahomes when it's all said and done. I just think that we have to recalibrate and understand that, of course, Aaron Rodgers isn't as good. Historically, there's only been one guy that remained good. Right. Yeah. Well, Joe Flacco as well. I mean- Yeah, I mean, but Joe Flacco has a lot less tread on his tires too.

Right, but you're right. Tom Brady's the anomaly. LeBron is the anomaly in the NBA. The rule of thumb remains, if you're 40 years old as a pro athlete, chances are 90%, you're not gonna be nearly as good as you were five, seven years earlier. Anyone else think it's a slippery slope,

this whole like the eye in the sky can just come in at any time and change a play? Cause it's like it's just using your challenges like now it's just like oh I don't have to use my challenge here cause the eye in the sky decided that that play was wrong and it's like sometimes I have to use my challenge but sometimes the officials are just gonna change the call. It just seems very subjective when the eye in the sky

is changing cars. It's also a lot easier to follow when that happens on television. When you're in stadium and they just rule something there you don't have a real explanation and it leads to a very confusing experience for people that are in that stadium trying to follow along. A slippery slope to what, Chris?

I'm just saying because one team can say, oh, that play was just like, I'm pretty sure they did that with the throw. The tuck, yeah, it was a sky judge. The rest just like. Buffalo tried to challenge. The calls changed. But I like a judge presiding over everything and telling you when they got it wrong But then they're better to not have to use your challenges because they're getting the calls right though. It was so it's faster

I would say like though. I think it was the touchdown also the sky judge was like came in said it was a touchdown We moved on like it wasn't commercial I was trying to hyper analyze it though And if you hyper analyze and you say there you can start talking yourself into different things whereas it was an immediate ruling and Buffalo tried to challenge and the officials explained to him you keep your challenges with this was one of those plays that were automatically reviewed source just trust me bro. It just seems like we're going to run into a time where it's going to be they're going to make a change and I don't know it just seems like a slippery slope to me.

You don't like someone presiding over football is essentially what you're saying. I just think it seems very like, I either want all replay to be from the eye in the sky or there's challenges, like it just seems weird that you have these challenges. If you have an eye in the sky, why would you need a challenge flag in your sock? Right, I mean, I'm cool with it all just being,

let's get the call right, but it just seems like a slippery slope that we're gonna run into like in a big playoff game, the eye in the sky is gonna change a play, and the other team is gonna be like, what the f***? Ultimately, like the right team won last night. New York just didn't make enough plays. So there were-

They had plenty of opportunities, Mike. Two football fields of penalties in that game. It was weird because the game was tight throughout, interesting things happened, but the game flow was such that you couldn't actually say, man, this game is awesome, huh? And it's a shame because you have Aaron Rodgers fighting for his team's life on Monday night

against a bitter rival. That's something good that the sport has going for it. And yet everyone kind of had the same experience watching it, which is like, man, this is a little labor little laborious I can't it's late at night and there's no flow to this there's no flow and it doesn't take 22 penalties for there to be no flow I think flags are an epidemic in the NFL right now it's to the point now where I was watching a game I forget the game but the enough the first flag was like late in the first quarter and the announcer was making a big deal out of oh finally we

almost got a quarter in without a flag I find it it's tough to watch the NFL now because when there's a big play when your team has a big play a completion or whatever you're immediately holding your breath because you almost expect a flag to nullify half of the great plays in the game now i don't know whether the the officiating is going overboard or or whether the the play is that sloppy around the league but i find it tough to watch the nfl more than i used to take man was saying exactly what you were saying and is like my so many penalties let's look at these and then they look at them and they're all penalties yeah like and even he was just like i mean i

think the one was the roughing the passer on Rogers that extended the drive. That was bad, yeah. They said that he put his body weight on him, but it, which he did. He did, yes, he did. So like fine, but it looked like he was trying not to, and then he's getting into the.

He sacked a quarterback, he made a tackle, he's playing football. How can you flag him 15 yards for that? It's ridiculous. That was a funny moment where the like the official, the TV TV official came in and was explaining the rule to Aikman. He's like, no, I got it. I don't like it. Get the rule.

Don't like it. It's a tricky thing because sports fans love to complain. That's a penalty. That's a foul. And when we have a game that has too many of those, we're saying, stop it. Too many of those. It're saying, stop it, too many of those. It's hard to please everybody, but that game I think did have the most penalties in it

so far this NFL season. As a gambler though, a lot of times we love these penalties because if you're on one side and you're hoping for the flag, so like 50% of the time I'm happy that these flags are here. Yeah, but 50% of the time you're not. I love offensive penalties. I like a holding when I need yards.

It's like, all right, let's move that back 15 yards. That's more yards you gotta gain here. This is great. I just love seeing the players. I've done this before about how I love to guess what the penalty is. So when you start seeing the movement, you can kind of tell before the call,

like, oh, they're moving backwards. That's on the offense. And man, when you need that offensive penalty and they start moving backwards, better's on the offense. And man, when you need that offensive penalty and they start moving backwards, huh, better than sex. It's weird, I try to impress my wife by telling her what the call is gonna be before they make the actual call. And it's just by placement of the flag.

When's the last time that impressed your wife? She's not listening to me. Like at one point, like when in this relationship, she's like, wow, John knows football. Not once. I feel like, wow. John knows football. Not once. I feel like 1987 was probably when that ended. Illegal formation, how'd you know? Right, she's not impressed at all.

I'm not even certain she's listening. I'm doing it anyway because I need to talk to somebody when I'm watching football and Abby's there. I mean, it is the least impressive thing in the world to be like, that was a hold when they throw it by The line of scrimmage after a big run. I know look it sometimes. I'm like holding ten yards other way Is that how Lee would you know cuz why what like an illegal shift and like whoa? I probably saw an illegal shift before he did are you asking if that's how I would Lee that's a better question

You're telling Lee what the calls are exactly arguing with each other like that was an illegal ship. No, it wasn't yeah, I Don't like it when the announcer usurps the Referee like I like the referee to announce to me what the penalty was I don't like it when they want a clean call you want the announcer to lay out I don't like it when the know it. You want a clean call. You want the announcer to lay out. Yeah. I don't like it when the know it all announcer goes, oh, immediately, immediately goes, oh, the center, Flackman was holding on that play. Who knows that? They do. They have spotters.

Who's watching the center though? They're spotters that are feeding them this information. Yeah, too much information. Too soon. T-M-I-T-S. Huh. To miss it. Right? Too much information too soon. You're right. Yes. Nailed it.

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Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow! Wow! Are you saying that Aaron Rodgers is done? Like flatly, that's it? You are done with Aaron Rodgers? I'm not done with Aaron Rodgers. I've kind of pointed out that for several seasons, he's not the same dude.

And everyone kept telling me that they expected him to be a clear and obvious upgrade. And by everyone, I mean a lot of people on this show, Dan included. Right. And show me the numbers. He hasn't thrown a 300-yard game in a long time. He was always kind of a cautious quarterback.

Even though he had this rocket arm, he played the game pretty safe. And as he ages, he's only going to play it more safe. And the only time that guy throws deep is at the end of a half or if the opposing team jumps off side. He's pretty careful. And then sometimes, he doesn't understand

like he did with Devontae Adams throwing to a double-covered Devontae Adams in that playoff game his last game as a packer. Exact same thing happened last night. Mike Williams granted he had an open receiver whether he under threw it according to him. Mike Williams ran the wrong route. He's supposed to know what he's supposed to do there fine but he had a wide open receiver underneath for an easy 20 yard chunk play to get them in field goal range. This is who Aaron Rodgers is. I don't think he's ever gonna go hop in the time machine

and be the guy that we were obviously saying, wow, this dude might be the most talented skilled thrower of the football we've ever seen. It looks so different. I just don't think he's that guy anymore. I don't even think like he don't think he's that guy anymore. I don't even think like he's like he's not pro

level. He's not he might not even be top half in the league right now. He's below average right now. He is. I'm not looking for the Aaron Rodgers of three and four seasons ago who you know, 37 touchdowns, four interceptions. I'm not

looking for the touchdowns. I'm looking for him to not throw interceptions. And he is like tied for fifth right now in the NFL through five weeks in interceptions. He's thrown five already and it seems like every game as he's trying to get the Jets a victory, final drive, Aaron Rodgers throws, what is a bad interception? And so I'm not looking or expecting Aaron Rodgers to be the guy he was three seasons ago four seasons ago I would just like him to be good. Yeah, I'm not asking him to be great I just need him to be good and he hasn't been good and that's been disappointing I think part of it too is that look Garrett Wilson. He's an okay receiver. He's pretty good Quit putting him in the elite category. I was very disrespectful. He just did the garrison. He's really good. He's really talented. He is really good. I

don't think he's an elite receiver in this league. Okay. I don't think he's C.D. Lamb or Tyree Kill. And Mike Williams. Mike Williams made Chargers fans crazy for five years. He shows up once every five games. He makes a terrific play and then he disappears. And the other thing is the Jets. I don't have the stats right in front of me, but the Jets running game has not been great. Like Aaron Rodgers can't just fall back on a dominant running game to save himself from himself. So I think there's a lot going on with that offense beyond Aaron Rodgers.

Billy was very frustrated with Mike Williams last night, BBB's his big board bets on God bless football We were looking good Billy until Mike Williams Happens well, I mean every week on Mondays. I give you three bets that if I was in a draft King State I may so be inclined to bet however I'm not so I don't but if I was I would maybe feel strongly enough about these games to place bets And we were doing good this season We're 13 and 8 headed into the game I know but I was feeling a little bit iffy about some of those bets yesterday

One of them was a Josh Allen anytime touchdown because he hadn't scored a rushing touchdown since week one where he scored two Yeah, got that one out of the way real early. You did then I was feeling you know, Aaron I think his his yardage was 217 and a half yards I said Aaron's gonna put on a show because he wants to make the world think Robert Sala was the problem. So he's gonna throw as much as he can. He's gonna be throwing all day long.

Then I saw it was windy, so I was a little nervous about that one. Alan Lazard, I was feeling good about, but Mikey A tried to convince me Mike Williams was the bet. Alan Lazard was like over 34 and a half yards. Got that easy. Then we threw in a bonus. Yeah, easy.

He did get easy. He got 115 yards on the day you got that one easy quick quick update tested hill man the just the jester third from the bottom in team rushing team running and garrett wilson is averaging 9.7 yards a catch i'm just saying yeah that i would also put some of that on the quarterback who, as I outlined before, likes to throw short now. He's like, and like I said, when he was elite, he was sneakily one of those guys that was more of a check down guy. I think Garrett Wilson is supremely talented. I can go off of like what Aaron Rodgers has said because Aaron Rodgers has been in the league for a

long time and he's said great things about Garrett Wilson's talent. I think he's at that level. The guys that you highlighted, I don't think there's much of a difference between C.D. Lamb and Wilson. I think the major difference is the offenses that they play in. To your Mike Williams point, he needed 24 1⁄2 yards

and he didn't get a reception. Thank you. But had he not slipped on the turf and caught that pass, we would have been golden four and oh and said three and one. That's fine, move on. 16 and nine on the season. Troy Aikman made news by saying after the game to Scott Van Pelt, I can see this Shetts thing unraveling.

And I was looking at Jess, I'm like, hasn't it already? They fired their coach. It's unraveled. It's, we're told we have all sorts of questions about the savior at the position and now the defense looks a little bit more concerning. They're in a hole. Luckily they play in a division where they can make it back

but I don't, I think it's kind of unraveled. It's definitely unraveled. Aaron Rodgers is making sarcastic references to South Park in his post-game conference. Yeah, that was great. That's when you know, right? That's not good. Bill Belichick is just slamming the Jets.

Last night of the Manning cast, Belichick took shots at Jets owner, Woody Johnson. Let's take a listen here. Like fireman Ed, but that's it. But you know what? Coach Szilag did a good job with that program. I mean, he brought in a culture, a level of toughness and competitiveness. You know, unfortunately, the offense hasn't been what a lot of quarterbacks last year

and a little bit of a slow start. But I thought Coach Szilag really did a good job with this team. And that's probably not that far away from winning. Seemed quite early to me to be making a head coach and change. Yeah. Well, but Bill, you mentioned. Look, that's kind of what it's been there at the Jets. Barely won over 30% in the last 10 years.

So the owner being the owner, just ready fire aim. Coach Salah also barely had over 300 win percentage. He was 357 as the Jets head coach. Like how's he with a straight face and he did a great job there? I think we can cross the Jets off the list though for Belichick. Really?

Again. I don't know. I think Belichick could slam an owner and still get the head coaching job. New York market, lot to like there. Yep. He said they're close. He did.

Who better to take them over the edge than Bill Belichick. Yeah. I think Salah took them over the edge. Well, the wrong edge though, the cliff. It fell off. I mean, the good edge. I don't see Bill Belichick as a New York guy. I don't think he's a big city guy.

I could see him with the Giants. He's a legendary Giants. He spent a good portion of his career in New York. Nah. He's not a big city, man He was the Giants defensive coordinator under Bill Parcell's nice. I think he took the Jets at Jets head coaching job and Called him up and said I don't want the job a day later. I mean Boston area is a big Most NFL markets are big. I see him as a cabin man. Do you really?

Yeah, I bet you he changes. Air Rogers is a cabin man. I see him as like exiting a beach house outside of a squeaky door kind of guy. I bet you he changes his underwear twice a week. That much? I am getting a text here from Reese Davis because he is struggling with his Zoom link.

I'm just letting you guys know, okay? There was no way to do that without communicating it on the air here. Reese Davis is gonna join us, talk some college football in just a second, and also- There's like a half dozen ways to communicate that off the air. I know, but I had to talk, like no one was,

that's on me. You can back channel with us. It is Reese finally coming on because Dan left because Dan kept saying that Reese had the worst touchdown call of all time or whatever, on. That's on me. You can back channel with us. It's on. Is Reese finally coming on because Dan left because Dan kept saying that Reese had the worst touchdown call of all time or whatever and so he didn't want

to come on while Dan was here. Well, I will tell you, I told him that Dan will not be here. I said it's me, Greg Cody, the shipping container. Uh that's who's here today. Reese is happy to do it. He's always happy to do it. I have no idea

what happened last week with Leventorn and Reese Davis because all Dan has to do is ask me to get Reese on and he'll come on. Dan was acting like he was reaching out to Reese Davis trying to get him on the show and Reese was blowing him off. We did reach out to him after that Miami game and he said because of his voice being like shot after that weekend that he would pass.

And he also called him a traffic cop once. That also. Do we have the sound of the Reese Davis call? The touchdown call, yeah, the epic touchdown call we have. Yeah, because it's a good way to bring Reese Davis in. Reese would disagree with that, probably. Touchdown scored. Whistles. touchdown scored whistles and they signaled the touchdown

whistles it's a good place to start with Reese right? yeah why didn't someone give him some ibuprofen? there's nothing worse than fighting through that like horrible sore throat when you just have to keep talking yeah I've been doing that are you okay yeah my whole life actually no the weekend gave me a sore throat for some reason really a singer yeah hmm what happened I don't know couldn't begin to guess I mean your wife was away

right yeah yeah yeah yeah I don't know know is you know it's just a mystery better today than yesterday though right i'm not sure if coffee helps or hurts if you have a little probably hurt especially if it's acid do you think it's acid reflux uh... the city from the coffee i used to have gird like gird moolah did you know i don't soccer star what how did you hear your girl i i took medication here and it helped like pepsid Well, I don't know if it's pepsid or what but you know the what I'm addicted to now Tums used to be terrible right it was the chalky. Oh, they're very chalky. Yes, he coated tongue. Yeah, the

Good I'm addicted to them. I eat like five a day whether I have Gert or not. Oh my god. They're so good Chris You've never had are you supposed to do that? They're excellent, but dad what what flavor Greg? Do you have I like them all the pink the purple okay, because they have like smoothies. They have peppermint They have creamsicle ones If you go to Target Target has like the special edition holiday editions of the Chewy Tums Oh, I eat them like candy. Yeah, I probably should be careful that intake there, Greg. How's that Roy? You know medicine? You know, how's that? It's preventative. It is. He likes them. I mean, yeah. Yeah, the Flintstones had vitamins back in the day.

Terrible. I used to eat those like Skittles. You know what I'm saying? No, I didn't. Those were terrible. They were great. No, they were awful. I enjoyed that. It was like biting into rocks. When I was- We agree to disagree. What's the most you'll have in a 24 hour span? You're talking to me? Yes. I was exaggerating before.

I'll eat two or three or four. How many times a day? Oh, generally just once a day. If I'm feeling a little bit of indigestion, I'll pop on like chalk. There you go tarts Says 15 is like is like the do not take more. No, I've never done that I've never done that when I was an infant I OD'd on st. Joseph's baby aspirin really

Yeah, my mother told me that did you have to get your stomach pumped? No, but they did take me to a hospital and described what I had done And I think they just you know Waved went like the doctor went like that and sent us home. Well, it sounded more serious at the start Yeah, but it was a whole bottle. I guess it didn't have a childproof cap back then. They didn't have childproof caps, right? So how did people like me live to be my age? We survived it. That's how It seems like a waste of a hospital visit. I know. I mean, I don't know. I think that's kind of...

Well, it wasn't even an overdose. He went in there, they just sent him home. He's fine. Well, if it says to take two and I eat a half a bottle of thirty, I mean, that's an overdose. Alright, what's that suggestion? Yeah. It could have been a lie. Maybe I believe too much in Western medicine, but I feel like if a baby eats an entire bottle of aspirin maybe to check it out. Yeah, I agree He's fine. Look at him. He got GERD, but other than that he's alive and kicking. It's a ganky. Barely Alive not kicking anymore. Do you have a back in my day today? I do not no I was so busy yesterday that I didn't have time. Yeah. Right, hosting the show.

Yeah. Right? Yeah, maybe next week. Maybe. Okay. Toss a thumbs in there. You all right, Greg? Seriously.

Okay, he's all right. Yeah, I'm good. All right, Reese Davis has found the Zoom link. He is going to join us coming up here in a second. We'll talk some college football with Reese. Hey, it's Mike Ryan and there's so many great things about football. My favorite thing is the random occasional year

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