The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Treat Yourself a Round of Sausage

Episode Date: November 15, 2024

Today's cast: Dan, Amin, Chris, Jeremy, and Tony (with a late-arriving Roy). Jeremy and Chris are in legitimate pain after yesterday's wiffle ball escapades with Kenny Mayne, but at least Jeremy got a new voicemail out of it. Mike Tyson vs. Jake Paul is TONIGHT, so it's time to roll through some of the funniest and wildest Tyson moments over the last few days including an interview with a 14-year-old girl that somehow became about about death. Then, will this fight be bigger than UFC this weekend? Dan, Tony, and Amin dive into the details. Plus, we listen to one of the all-time greatest Wheel of Fortune clips and dissect whether the contestant or Ryan Seacrest himself let out a disappointed exhale after the answer. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Shadow show. Shadow show. Shadow in it. Shadow in it. Chris, how was your arm? Because I see that Jeremy seems to have legitimately injured himself with his 72 mile an hour wiffle ball throw because he didn't do any calisthenics

or stretching or anything. I stretched a little. I think I'm doing a little bit better than Jeremy. He also threw way more than I did. I only did twice. He took him like seven throws to beat him. All right, relax. But I'm doing, I still, I feel it today.

I'll give you that. But Jeremy's been complaining all morning. It's my forearm, it's my bicep, it's my elbow, which keeps cracking when I go to reach for stuff. It's the top of my shoulder, and most importantly, it's the shoulder blade that is just blown up. If you were to put your hands on my back and feel my left shoulder blade

versus my right shoulder blade, you would think I had something seriously wrong going on right now. Two words, boys, Tommy, John, you cannot throw a wiffle ball. That's the issue, right? The issue is not the throwing. You're exactly right. The issue right the issue is not that the throwing you're exactly right

The issue is the throwing of something that is hollow and that has air ducts So so air can go in it to give it to the curve The problem is if you're throwing a regular ball and you're warming up you're doing your thing Your arm is used to it you try and throw the hell out of a wiffle ball your arm is so not used to the The lightness of the ball that you're throwing and your ligaments are like, whoa. It's like trying to throw a tissue that isn't balled up. Exactly right.

It's going to float everywhere. By the way, my favorite part of this whole thing is Kenny Maine said, hey, whoever beats my number, I'll record your voicemail intro for you. So forever you'll have Kenny Maine as your voicemail. So Jeremy broke the number, now Kenny Maine is gonna send him this. Well he sent me a text disputing the results. He said that RadarGun wasn't officially sanctioned

by Kenny Maine RadarGun. Let's assume that it is. We have the voicemail. Well let's assume, okay so it has been sent, it's been received. I told Jeremy, you know what the funny part about all this is? Nobody waits for the voicemail anyway.

I'm calling you, three, four rings you haven't picked up, I'm hit end. I'm not waiting to hear the voicemail. No one can hear it. Sneaky good feeling when that happens. That someone doesn't answer your call? Just like, you know, like you're making a call and it's like, okay, I made the call.

But if you're making the call, I want the other person to pick up. You don't want them to answer, Chris? No, I'm just saying. Of course you want them to answer, but it's not like you're like the call, I want the other person to pick up. You don't want them to answer, Chris? No, I'm just saying. Of course you want them to answer, but it's not like you're like, oh man. It's like a level of procrastination that you get to fulfill of,

hey, I had to make this call, specifically calling somebody back. But now three rings go and ah, they're not near the phone I'm gonna hang up. Love some phone tag. Ball's in your court now. I'm with you, Chris. Hey, I love what I don't get an answer. Responsibility is gone. I did it.

I did my part. I reached out. It's like being the last person to send the text. You ever been in that situation? You never text me. Open up the thing. I'm the last text so the ball was in your court to send me a response or a good morning or whatever. Just start the show so that I can talk about this some more, please. This is the Don LeBattor Show with the StuGuts Podcast. I don't understand you feeling relief and a sneaky good feeling, Chris Cote, from calling someone and then not having them answer after three rings so that you can have fulfilled

your commitment and didn't wanna be making the call in the first place. No, you're misrepresenting. I think I want them to answer. I'm obviously calling to speak to them. But like Amin said, if they don't answer, I'm at least like, whew, now the ball's back in their court. I'll answer when they call back.

But it's like, I don't feel like a jerk anymore. No, I think you're not being truthful here because I think there is a sneaky, great feeling in I have to call this person back. I don't really wanna have the conversation that we're supposed to have. I need to do something logistically. I need to plan something for weeks in advance.

We don't need all the preamble. And don't we don't need all the preambles now We don't need a bunch of hypotheticals about what you have to do with your free time Okay, you can continue the story. We just don't need more We got we got fine. Okay, it doesn't matter. I don't think we're gonna hear Kenny mains voicemail or not I don't really want to hear anything about Kenny Maine right now No The thing that I wanted to get to here with Amin because I thought it was the video of the day yesterday Is Mike Tyson selling tonight's fight the way that Mike Tyson does and I'm not even talking about him slapping Jake Paul I suppose we'll get to that in a second as well But before I get to the video of the day,

one of the places where I started to feel aging is just basically when I checked in on award shows and didn't know a lot of the very famous people that other people were excited about. Now I know the fame of the person I'm about to describe, Hasbulla, is that how we pronounce his name? But I don't know why he's famous beyond the fact that he's an adult who looks like a child,

but I don't know where else. Okay, but there are many people who have that particular ailment. They're all famous, Gary Coleman, Emmanuel Lewis. I don't think they're all famous. They're all famous. How can you say that? They they're all famous gary colman manual louis i don't think they're all famous often how can you say that other not all famous about why why is uh... has a lot famous because he's a he's an adult looks like it all right so let's play that video first because this is mike tyson not uh... basically knowing this

in this video uh... has below is about twenty about 25 or 26 years old, correct? And so he plays, Mike Tyson plays with him as if he thinks he's a toddler. So go ahead and play that video real quick as B-roll to set up the following video. Because if you have not seen this. Looks like he's playing with a child.

He's like shadow boxing. Right, but it's clearly not a child when you look at his face. Well, when you look at the way he's's boxing no child knows how to box like that Oh, yeah, he's hugging on me picked him up like I pick up my daughter. That's right All right, I'll give a little fake bite to the ear. Is that right? He's gonna give him the claw in a second, which is one of my moves Yes, that's one of my favorites by the way

None of you guys know how terrified has Bella is right here when he gets picked up and Mike pretends to bite his ear because I've been there. It's a scary place, folks. You don't know when he's gonna snap. Amin told us yesterday that he has been there. If you have not heard that story, I urge you to check out the podcast yesterday. But so Tyson is delighted there.

And it's led me to the conclusion that after this happened, Mike Tyson now questions all children whether they're actually adults because this interview, this interview, he is giving an adult interview to a child. How old is this girl that is interviewing him? I'm gonna guess 11, 12? My thoughts exactly have I have an 11 year old who's around that age So I'm like yeah, probably that you figure she's a preteen, but she's done this She gets really famous interviews and talks to every musicians athletes people of note And she has just like cool little one-on-one conversation very quick interview

But then you get to somebody like Mike Tyson you're like oh I want the audio audience to like when you're're listening to Mike Tyson, what we're about to play, I want you to picture an adorable young journalist, a child who's just trying to learn and she's looking up at him, nodding along, just taking in all of this so innocently. Let me just say right now, that is the most professional media member I've ever seen in my life because what's about to happen right now is so left field, forget about the fact she's a child, just for the softball question that's about to happen right now is so left field. Forget about the fact she's a child. Just for the softball question that's about to be lobbed up.

She's a teenager and the sound on this, the way that Mike Tyson answers it seriously as he answers most questions in his life, I thought the silence was just as funny as the words. So after such a successful career, what type of legacy would you like to leave behind when it's all said and done? Well, I don't know. I don't believe in the word legacy.

I just think that's another word for ego. Legacy doesn't mean nothing. That's just some word everybody grabbed onto. Someone said that word and everyone grabbed onto the word, so now it's used every five seconds. It means absolutely nothing to me. I'm just passing through. I'm gonna die and it's gonna be over. Who cares about legacy after that? What a big ego. So I'm gonna die. I want people to think that I'm this. I'm great. No, we're nothing.

We're just dead. We're dust. We're absolutely nothing. Our legacy is nothing. Well thank you so much for sharing that that that is something that I have not heard before someone say that as an answer Can you really imagine somebody say I want my legacy to be this way when I get debt? Why do you want to think I really want to think about you? Beep-bop-boop. How what's the dad thing? I want you to think about me when I'm gone who the f**k cares about me? I think I want people to think about me when I'm gone. Who the f*** cares about me? Dude, I laughed so hard last night. I watched it so many times in a row because there's so much happening.

Dude, I kept thinking like every 15 seconds he's going to realize he's going too far and he's going to soften it and he just keeps going. It's so good. I thought the most fascinating thing was, his answer's kinda right. It's great perspective for anyone, it's just surprising perspective to give a 14 year old child. And comedically he was hitting perfect,

the silence is after and you're just dead. Now this child hasn't probably thought a great deal about mortality. Beep-aop boop. But the silence, I want to play that again for you because this is written comedically perfectly and he nails the dismount with the perfectly placed F word at the end. So after such a successful career, what type of legacy

would you like to leave behind when it's all said and done? Well, I don't know. I don't believe in the word legacy. I just think that's another word for ego. Legacy doesn't mean nothing. That's just some word everybody grabbed onto. Someone said that word and everyone grabbed onto the word, so now it's used every five seconds. It means absolutely nothing to me. I'm just passing through. I'm going to die and it's going to be over. Who cares about legacy I'm a die I want people to think that I'm this I'm great I'm no we're nothing we're just dead with dust absolutely nothing our legacy is nothing well thank you so much for sharing that that is something that I have not heard

before someone say that as an answer Can you really imagine somebody say I want my legacy to be this way when I get dead Why do you want to think I really want to think about you? How was that that thing? I want you to think about me when I'm gone who the fuck cares about me when I'm gone Well, thank you for sharing that. Thank you for sharing that. She's so professional, man. She handles it so well. But the other thing I liked about it is in the middle, he says, nobody cares.

Well, maybe my kids will care. When he does that math, okay, some people will care. But most people won't care. She does a couple of great things in the interview. One is allowing the silence for Mike Tyson to elaborate three times. Plenty of room for Mike Tyson to continue the thought without interruption, but one of my favorites

is that after the silence, she professionally turns back to the camera. Like she turns away from, he's like, I'm dead, I'm dust. And she just turns away from the camera and starts to go back and do face the camera and talk to the camera. But Mike Tyson is next to her, and it's extra funny as well,

because Mike Tyson is not finding at any point any of the funny in this. Ever since he did the toad in the ill-fated Art of Conversation, one of two episodes that we did So they get yeah I thought so too based on what it is that actually is a funny story based on what it is that you said yesterday About Mike Tyson's life the argument

I had at ESPN about doing Mike Tyson because they just wanted me to do a football player and they're like How about you do Chris Long? And so they were and they were asking me they were asking me. Why just wanted me to do a football player, and they're like, how about you do Chris Long? And they were asking me, why do you want to do Tyson? The what? That's right. That silence was purposeful. Yeah, because he's really interesting.

Because he's an interesting person. He's, you know, like Amin was saying yesterday, maybe the most interesting athlete of our lifetime. The way he's, you know, for the audio audience, if you haven't watched the video, listen to it, it's funny, Larry, there's a lot more to that. But watch it, because you have to see the way he looks at her

in that moment of silence, and again, Mike, Dan, I'm so terrified of Mike Tyson, I'm calling everybody Mike. It's the third time you've done this to me in the, Dan, I'm so terrified of Mike Tyson. I'm calling everybody Mike. That's the third time you've done this to me in the last two days. I'm terrified of Mike Tyson. You keep calling me Mike. It's because I'm,

He's done it on air. You have a presence, Dan, that's why. He's done it twice on air, and he's done it once off air. He's got so much Mike Tyson of the mind that he keeps calling me Mike. I gotta get past this fight. But yet.

You're so right, Lennox. I'm looking at him him and that's the look that he gave me right before like I thought I was gonna die don't look at me Louie is what he was saying he didn't want my Dyson looking at him I didn't want to be there. I promise you I didn't want to be there but the way he stares at her, again, it's like he's staring at a 28 year old dude. Like, oh, you asked me this question, really?

And the other part of this, because she is a child, she doesn't book her guests, she doesn't run the business, probably her parents do that. So you as a father or a mother are standing behind the camera saying, oh shit. Imagine that roller coaster, Dan, of being like, baby, you won't believe what we got, what do we got? We got the Mike Tyson interview,

we're gonna get Mike Tyson right after they do this. Yes, this is one of the biggest ones, we've had all these huge stars, but this is huge, especially because of the moment, this Netflix thing is happening, this could blow up, go super viral. And then it starts and you realize that Mike is not playful, joyful Mike is Mike yeah he's being Mike now and you're like oh shit because if things go left if he like picks up this child of rips her in

half and the spine and all that like what all you can do all you can do is sit back and watch Dan I'm gonna tell you how I know. What Mike Tyson did to that child in that interview is if it were any other person athlete, politician, musician, actor, whatever, the internet would be like how dare you and who the hell do you think you are? That's just a child whatever. Dog, I've been watching nothing but reaction video after reaction to reaction video. I have not seen one mother ever say anything bad about Mike Tyson they said it's funny they've done the same thing we've done I haven't heard one person how dare you

Mike how dare you treat a child that way I was having the same thought when the dad or whoever it is is back there and he's like I can't protect her because if something happens I can't step in there's nothing that I can physically do like there's other artists as other people you the dad can come in and cut hey watch out like what are you doing I'm not like I got nothing even if I even if I were crazy I'm a crazed parent I love my child I'm not fast enough he's right there and he you see the way he punches you see how fast he slapped I had to watch that like three times to see the slap it's one thing it's like all of a sudden now he's gone I'm like what what happened I love

that the concern has turned from oh is Mike Tyson gonna say something crazy to is Mike Tyson going to whip my child in half Jeremy that's what we've been trying to tell you for like three months the guy's crazy he's insane you guys think it's all play play and Jake Paul's like oh I'm. And one thing is, like, Mike is gonna have some memory of somebody messing with his pigeons when he was 18. And then the next thing you know, poof, to the moon. He tore, he has her being torn in half and him waving the spine around like a cartoon fish

that's been pulled out of its skin and is just a skeleton. Smack someone in the face with it on a boat. She would still be professional though. Wall B, like that's how professional she was. She would still be saying. Thank you so much for sharing that. That is something that I have not heard before.

Yeah, and none of us had really, to a sports interview question, I've never heard that as an answer to what you want your legacy to be dog That is such a brilliant retort by her like that's what I'm saying like this child is gifted man because to say to recognize in the moment, oh my god, this is going left and Instead of sinking in it like being able to rise 30 30,000 feet above and say no one's ever answered that question like that before Well, thank you so much for sharing that.

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We're going to try and get her on and we're also going to try and get on another participant in a funny video that I've been meaning to get to for two days from Wheel of Fortune. I believe this is the first viral moment that has been had by Wheel of Fortune since Pat Sajak. This is the first Seacrest viral moment. Amin was saying that the parent of that child was thinking to themselves how great it would be if their child interviewed Mike Tyson to get that viral moment which they did indeed get because of how Mike Tyson handled that I want to know which

is the funnier video that one or the one I'm about to play for you which the clue on the board, okay, is not sausage related in any way, okay? I need to explain this to the audio audience. Please put the clue back on the preview for me so that I can see. I think we should just give away what the answer. The answer is give yourself a round of applause. Now there's some missing letters, obviously, because this is Wheel of Fortune. The important thing

to notice is the last word applause, the A is there. That starts at all. It's at the front, yes. And the first word which is give, the E is there. That's right. It's a four-letter word at the top, give, and the last word is applause, but this confident man does not answer that way. I'd like to buy a U. Well you're going to get three U's. I'd like to solve a puzzle. Okay, well let's hear it.

Treat yourself a round of sausage. I'm sorry, that's not it. Over to Katina. I'd like to solve. Okay. Give yourself a round of applause. Yeah, that's it. Seacrest gives an audible, like a gut punch. I think most of us, if that had happened to us, and we're gonna try and get that contestant on today, would have, if given the option, would have asked for the floor beneath us to open and for the earth to swallow us, never to be seen again. Would have been the choice.

I would have selected, instead of Ryan, I want to buy something or anything, just I'd like to disappear, not just from television, but I'd like to leave this particular plane of earth and see if I could get closer to the core of earth here. I don't want to be around people anymore. Now Dan, I'm an expert on these kind of matters. As you know, we have the law offices of Amino-Hassan to help people with viral decontextualization. I'm sure this guy is not a complete moron,

as that video would indicate. It was just a moment taken out of context that he was virally decontextualized. So this is what I would say to him. We're gonna call up Johnsonville Sausage Company. We're gonna do all the sausage company, Omaha Steaks, everybody. We're gonna do brand.

That's a good idea. Brand partnerships, man. I'd love a round of sausage. And that slogan. Treat yourself around, not give yourself, get it right. It could have been give. It should have been give. It should have been, it was four letters, the last letter was E, it should, get it right. It could have been give. It should have been give. It was four letters, the last letter was E.

It was give. It was give yourself a round of applause. Treat yourself, but it's funnier as treat, not just because it's five letters instead of four. Who wouldn't want to, outside of vegans obviously, and vegetarians. There's vegan sausage. Treat yourself a round of sausage.

I don't know that you could do better with a comedic word at the end, then sausage. Sausage. Sausage. This is hungry. I feel like he's at a point where he's reading it and then he gets to it mentally where he's like,

oh my God, wait a second, this isn't right. Cause he starts getting the words and he's like, treat yourself a round of sausage. Treat yourself a round of sausage. yourself a round of sausage that little pause treat yourself. Oh shit Damn it. I've already messed can I start over Chris? Do me a favor here and Just play it again. Just so that I can hear the silence isn't long but silence is funny man silence is funny in the Tyson video and the silence is funny, man. Silence is funny in the Tyson video, and the silence is funny here because what you hear in the silence

before the comedically perfect pathetic buzzer that tells him that he's wrong, the pathetic, like it's just a pathetic buzzer, is right before that you hear silence, and then the game show host, Ryan Seacrest, a professional by any measurement. One of the most. You would think that he would

handle this situation as well as the 14 year-old handled the Tyson situation, but it sounds like he has been softly punched in the nuts. Treat yourself a round of sausage. I'm sorry that's not it over to Katina. Come on Ryan. I'm sorry. That's not it over to Katina. Come on Ryan Come on. I love Dan's a great point by Dan. That buzzard is great. It's by itself. It's silent It's it's it is the sound of someone who makes that groan. That's Ryan's okay

I thought it was the guy just after he did might be the guy. Let's hear it again Let's see if we can separate secrets from his words and the guy from his pain. Treat yourself a round of sausage. I'm sorry, that's not it. Seacrest, I think that's Seacrest. No, it might not have been Seacrest. I think it's him. I think it's him realizing like, oh shit, I just said the most embarrassing thing possible.

We're gonna have to do an investigation. I do believe that that might be his own shame and not Seacrest's borrowed shame. Treat yourself a round of sausage. I'm sorry that's not it. That's Seacrest. This guy talks up here. No that's not a little boy. No no. Play it again. Okay but hold on hold on I just I want to offer some more context and I want to have this be a definitive investigation, okay? And this is the theory I'm gonna posit on this. What I'm telling you is yes,

the sound of the voice goes different, but it's cause it's soaked in shame. It's because he used to be confident seconds ago. Second, seconds ago, he was confident and then he realizes that sound is him realizing oh no I've done the only thing that's gonna get everyone talking about my appearance on Wheel of Fortune. Treat yourself a round of sausage. I'm sorry that's not it. That is definitely him falling metaphorically to a knee.

That is him realizing that is his shame falling on his neck and him and the weight of it taking a few octaves out of his voice. Instead of the trap door that sends him to the core of the earth. What it feels like is behind the podium is, you know, those like in the cartoons or you have the boxing glove that's on the box. Wait, what hits them there in the nuts? have the boxing glove that's on the that's like what hits him there in the nuts is that boxing leg is like oh treat yourself a round of sausage no i'm sorry that's not it it is it's the sound a runner would make when pulling their

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And then that staffer threw him 25 and 2. Oh, there's a brand new kid in town out of BYU. Lebatard Stugats This is the Don Lebatatar Show with the Stugats. We are going to get one of those two people. I am sending Sullivan after both of those people and we'll see who we can get before the end of the show. One of who people? We're going to try and get either the kid who interviewed Tyson or the contestant on Wheel of Fortune I thought you said we get Mike Tyson. I said I gotta go hide then

Cuz I'm afraid of Mike Tyson cuz he's a scary guy. Yeah, you think he'd remember you You remember you from meeting you when you were seven and then twenty something and then thirty something Well, wait a minute. You were just telling me, why don't you go ahead and tell me the story you were telling me before the show about how his short term memory might be something that can't be trusted because you were having a conversation with somebody. I don't wanna.

I won't betray the name, right? But a buddy of mine is friends with Mike Tyson, right? And he tells me the story of being at a UFC event in Saudi Arabia where Mike is giving away like the belts to the winners. So every time there's another match, it ends, he walks up, presents the thing, takes the photos, everyone's happy.

My buddy's sitting ringside by the entrance of the octagon. So every time Mike walks in, he kind of slaps him on his leg, hey man, what's going on? You know, it's like, oh, it's my guy, whatever. In and out. So one of these trips, in and out, Mike has like something on his chin or whatever.

So my buddy's trying to be discreet. He says, hey Mike, like you want some gum? And Mike stares at him and he's like, are you telling me that my breath effing stinks? And my buddy's like, no, no Mike, I was having gum. I thought you would might want some, I'm offering gum. And so he says, no, MF, are you telling me my breath stinks? Who the eff are you? And it's like, he's seeing Mike's eyes

and it's completely disassociated. So the guy sitting next to him says, hey Mike, no, no, he's just offering you gum, it's not a big deal. And the guy sitting next to him says, hey Mike, no, no, he's just offering you gum, it's not a big deal. And Mike turns and stares at him and says, I don't remember saying that F-ing word to you. Sit the F down and shut the F up. And that guy was like the welterweight MMA champion

of the world or whatever. So this is a bad MFer in his own regard. And he's like, all right man, you're on your own. He sits down. He does what he's told. He does exactly as he's told. So now everyone's like, what's happening here? And so they say, Mike, you got to go present the belt.

So he walks in there, and he presents the belt, and he walks out. And for the rest of the night, as he's going in to present these belts, every time he passes by my buddy, he says, not quietly, he points out and says, F you, F you MF'er, every single time. At some point, the fight promoters are like, I think we need to move you from this seat. And my buddy's like, I think that's a good idea.

They move him over to where Mike's family is. And Mike's father-in-law says to him, hey man, what's going on? And he's like, I don't know what happened. I just offered some gum and then he just lost it. And the father-in-law says to him. Hey man, what's going on? And he's like, I don't know what happened I just offered some gum and then he just lost it and the father-in-law's like, I don't worry He'll forget all about it by the end of the night and sure enough at the end of the night He's like, hey man, what's going on? It's like nothing happened. And so I think we figured it out It's not that Mike Tyson doesn't remember me. It's that maybe long-term memory isn't a thing for him

not Not all fighters are built the same. I will tell you because boxing was the sport that I liked writing about the most. Why? Because I mean, the fear of being alone in the middle of a lot of people and the other person is fighting you for money

and they can knock you out at any moment and really harm your career and harm you. So it's like being a columnist? No, it's nothing like- Yeah, you and Greg Cody just- It's nothing like that. It's sweet science? No, not helpful.

None of that is helpful. And being alone. The sweet science was a little helpful. Thank you. Buying your argument. I do like the sweet science portions of this, but I also like the bravery and how, you know, I say all the time that bravery is not the absence of fear,

it's the presence of fear. And so you may have noticed, Jake Paul, for whatever your criticisms are of him, and there can be a ton of criticisms of him from a lot of different angles. These are two, you know, these are two historically bad people, if you like to judge people as good and bad, two bad people who are fighting for money

at the center of the spectacle. Jake Paul has been extraordinary at his career path and how he has marketed and chosen his fighters and his matches and how he has built all of this into an empire after his most prominent YouTube relevancy. He's really, he's just been really smart about how he's done all of this including and up to now where he's just got the biggest fight that the most people are going to watch of any kind I would assume. I honestly think that MMA's got a great card this weekend. I don't think it's going to have, gonna bring in people from outside the tent to

gather around the television. I couldn't even tell you who's fighting MMA. John Jones is fighting. Oh really? It's a big weekend and he's been huge one. And he's been acting weird all week. Oh, he has. We'll get to that point in a second. But to your point, Dan, there's a reason why they set it up for Friday night, not Saturday night. Because the return of John Jones is going to be a ton of eyes, especially with the way that he's been doing media.

There's going to be a ton of eyes at Madison Square Garden. Biggest arena in the world. John Jones is back. Stipe Miocic, probably the greatest heavyweight of all time versus the pound for pound king. John Jones, who hasn't fought in 500 days. Stipe even longer than that. By the way, if you wanna catch that,

MMA Hangout preview of UFC 309 with Luke Thomas, our boy from All the Smoke from Morning Combat, and MMA Hangout at Katsutake Live on Saturday, 10 p.m. The problem with the Bones fight this weekend is everyone wants to see the fight that if he wins this one right with Aspen all He's been ducking that one. I'm just saying though like steep a light is old. He hasn't fought in a while This is kind of just letting John Bones get his feet wet get back in it

I'll be very honest with you guys when you say like hey John Bones Jones is fighting this weekend I say okay, so Monday's the failed coke test Sunday okay John Bones Jones for me is the best fighter in the history of the sport. Also has the most enormously checkered past for someone this excellent. There are all sorts of people who do that who get into all sorts of trouble but there has not been a champion of this skill set that has squandered so much time with what appears to be Drug issues, but his behavior is this weird because at least in part

Everyone assumes and this is not something that I was prepared for that he is ducking right like that's the the assumption You're hearing someone everyone regards and respects as a great fighter come to the consensus. Oh, he doesn't actually want to fight Absolutely not like Tom Aspinall has been a freight train through the heavyweight division like after he got hurt and had to miss some time But since he's gotten back he's steamrolled through everybody He's beat Aspinall has beaten five of the top ten fighters by knockout decidedly in the first round. Yes, correct Yes, decidedly like he is the best heavyweight on the planet. That's Francis Ngannou included. I think Tom Aspinall is better right now than Francis is. The issue is can he be better than John Jones? Yes, probably. But John has already come out and said, I don't want to

fight Tom Aspinall. I want to fight Alex Pareda, who's the 205 champion, who's a beast and a monster in his own right, to make that super fight. Dana came out came out yesterday on Jim Rome show and said, if John wins this fight, the only person he is fighting next is Tom Aspinall or he can retire. And that's been a big turn from what Dana has done, which is John can kind of pick his own fights. John can do whatever he wants. As we see, John could do whatever he wants. He's always got a home in the UFC because he's going to draw numbers. He's the greatest whatever but when you are ducking somebody who is clearly better younger faster stronger all these different things

They're actually having like Tom Aspyn who's the who's the sub and fighter one of the two fighters don't make weight which would be interesting if steepie all of a sudden Disappears and then Tom Aspynel breaks through it's like all right mother. It's time Disappears and then Tom Aspinal breaks through it's like all right mother. It's time They're having Tom Aspinal signed rubber duckies and the entire not the entire crowd But there's a bunch of people in the crowd with duck costumes You go crack crack crack in the John Jones press conference Do they start slow quack quack quack quack quack and then you build up Quack and then you build up like a slow clock. him you think anyone's doing that to Mike well no Thank you

I will play some video here that will remind people of the glory days of Mike Tyson when he was the most feared man in the world, but before I do that I'm gonna just show you from last night, or from all of the final press that they were doing, Mike Tyson gets, you know, approached by Jake Paul, who is crawling, as he often does, and evidently steps on Mike Tyson's foot, and then Mike Tyson slaps Jake Paul. So let's look at this real quick.

He's ready. Yeah, so he hit him in the face and the thing that I was going to say, yeah, slapped him in the face and looked and seemed ready. Like it didn't seem fake to me. It seemed like he was ready to fight. And what I was gonna say I mean before about not all fighters are the same,

but one of the many reasons that I love writing about the sport is because of the way that fear manifests itself even in confident, tough people. And many fighters like Tyson, famously, 24 hours before a fight, don't get around him. Like he might have to do some final press and stuff, but whatever the mental state is of somebody who can be that rabid and rage-filled and has been fighting all his life for money and for survival,

they just go often to a dark place before fighting. And this is a person who has been famously tempestuous. Now the internet's a little skeptical of everything surrounding this fight. So they're like, oh, was this all planned, the slap just to get hype? But if you look at a slow-mo here, when Jake does his crawl up, he steps on Mike Tyson's foot.

So to me, this is just like a natural reaction. Mike Tyson feels him stepping on his foot, and just, so to me, this was real. How much do they have to pay you to be the guy that holds Mike back? There's not enough money in the world. I don't think that that's fake. I think that seems real to me just because of what,

he's a bad, Tyson's not, despite the hangover appearance, he's not a good actor and he seems to be in a defensive and offensive posture. Tyson said right afterward, I was in my socks and he had his shoes on. He stepped on my toe because he's an effing asshole I wanted to think it happened by accident, but now I think it may have happened on purpose I was in a lot of pain. I had to reciprocate. What's the insurance like for this? He then said talking's over So one of the things that I've noticed

Because Jake Paul has been very good at the management of his career and in how he sells everything, not just his fight, he's been a lot more respectful, this one. Like the wording has been a lot more careful. Like he'll bring props to a press conference, but he is fighting someone who's a hero for him like this All of this has to be surreal to Jake Paul to cash in on whatever it is

He imagined at the start of this What whatever dreams he had at the height of what he thought was the best? Fighting could go for him. I'm not sure outside of actually winning the championship of a legitimate division that anything could feel as good as this payday done this way fighting this particular guy who's a hero to him and his father. There has to be like Jake Paul,

he's probably waking up about now, maybe he's been up for a little bit, 9.30 in the morning here. Like he's probably waking up about now, maybe he's been up for a little bit, 9.30 in the morning here. Like he's been thinking about the money, oh, I'm just gonna make me more famous, who can I box after this? He's waking up today, I have to get in the ring with Mike, to a means point,

like there has to be some fear with Jake. I'm sure he gets scared before every fight, but like, holy shit. There's a moment when this shit becomes real, and Dan, you're like, oh, it must be such an honor to the guy who grew up with and whatever. Dan, it's not like having a catch with Dan Marino. Right, this isn't that kind of,

oh, this is, I grew up all my life wanting to shoot hoops with Michael Jordan. Like, oh, I played one on one with Michael Jordan at the Jordan camp and then he hit a shot and said I was too little, ha ha. It's not those things. It's Mike Tyson hitting you. I'm not saying it's an honor, though it may be.

I'm saying it's a dream. Like him selling out this arena as a fighter against this particular opponent that some of us grew up playing his video game, and he was the menacing thing at the end of the video game that no one could beat. The final boss. I think that it's admittedly a weird dream, not my dream.

I'm almost famously a wimp. Like I don't. Oh you give yourself some grace there. I don't know whether it's. It might not be. I don't know if it's famous wimpery. It's not the wimpery I'm questioning. It's the amount of fame it has.

So according to Dan, there's some people walking out there and there's a big scuffle. They look, well hold on man, that's Dan Leventhal, he'll kill you. There's someone out there who might fall for that. No, no, no. Just takes one. No. If it was famous, Dan, if you're famously a wimp, then everyone will know he's a wimp,

let's beat him up. But if it's almost famous, it means there's someone out there who might see you and say, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, I don't know man. This guy looks tough. No, there are stops between wimp and tough I might just blend into a crowd that has gathered around to fight and no one's making an assessment

Are you on your tiptoes Dan like looking in the fight like ready to run ready to run at any point if anything gets too Close to me. I want to play though the video of what it looked like and sounded like play though the video of what it looked like and sounded like when uh... mike tyson and lennox lewis were getting together and a legitimate fight broke out uh... comment on that what you can't touch me you know i'm an office

i hate that You can't touch me, you're not man enough. I eat your a**, you're alive. You a**, you a**. Come and take my face off. You a** for everybody. You a**. Come on, you a**. You scared coward. You got man enough to a** with me.

You can't last two minutes in my world. Look at you scared now. You a**. Scared like a little white a**. Scared of the real man. Oh a**, you love me f***. Dude, there's not enough in this world. By the way, the prompt for that was someone yelled out,

put him in a straight jacket. So I just realized right now, a little bit earlier then, I yelled out, he's insane. I tell Jeremy, this is what we're talking about, the guy's crazy. Mike, I'm sorry, man. I'm sorry, you're not, you're very sane, and I'm the insane one for even saying something like that I should be I should be you know what penalty box hit me five-minute major

You don't get to tell me no and you get pen No, you're not you're scared of Tyson He wants a penalty look that went off the rails as soon as he started a second sentence with Dude and then didn't have anything to say after that. That's just a crutch for him. Rewind this, podcasters, not you live people. Rewind this and watch how Amin goes from Dude, which didn't have anything in it, to just falling apart after that and now he's stormed out of the room with a bit that didn't work.

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