The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Uniform Accouterments

Episode Date: August 11, 2025

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This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stucats podcast. Got to tell you, I hope that someone today winds up posting a picture of their kids at first day of school. Because it'd be a shame if the whole day went by today and I didn't see any of those. So hopefully someone posts a pick of their kids at school for the first day today, Greg. Okay. Did you not want those? I mean, everywhere, look on social media now. First day it is.

First, oh, who cares? A big deal. I don't know. It's, if we're doing a big deal, not a big deal, it's not a big deal. I don't understand, Greg. If you want to show, you know, the response is going to be, oh, well, you know, we want people to see our kids. You want them to see. And send them the picture.

Send them the picture. Why does it have to go on Facebook for everyone to see? I don't get it. I don't mind it when the kids are really small. It's, you know, kindergarten through fourth grade or whatever. I think it's wonderful, mainly because I have a granddaughter who's that age. Where's the line? I think the line is, if it's your first day in college, I'm not...

That's the line. What about fourth grade? I'm with you on this. Let's find the line. Fourth grade, stop posting. You get till third grade. Yeah, I would say third, fourth, maybe fifth. No, I have a counter to that, Drake.

So you're just okay with it, it seems. Yeah. Zaz, go ahead and pick up your phone. I sent you a photo of my niece. Her name's Ariel Willis. And she is starting her first day of C. I was going to say that this is an adult. Isn't that a big deal?

First day of senior year? No. No. Okay. But, okay, hold on a second. Let me backtrack. Is that picture, that's beautiful, that you were clearly sent that picture. Is that picture being thrown on social media today?

Well, they sort of gave a dry run and throw it on the group chat. And I think when they do that is when they're testing me. It's like, hey, hey, you should put that on your social. And of course, I'm not going to do that. I'll be a crazy person. But if they were to do it, great. have no issue with it. But Zaz, like this morning, I had to leave before my daughter went to school, so I haven't seen what she looks like this morning. I really want to see it. Okay, but the

way that you're going to see, your daughter can't possibly be, let me check my wife's Facebook account. Like, I would hope that your wife is sending, you know, you, a picture, right? The way that you're staying dialed in. I mean, Greg, you're the grandfather. Right. Do you have to check social media to get the picture of your granddaughter going to school? Or is it being sent to you? No, I might have to check a social media to see that. Well, what's going on in the Cody household then? Can somebody send the grandfather a picture?

I just noticed my wife posted it 23 minutes ago and never texted me. There you go. I want to see that photo. I just saw it on her Instagram. What is that? See? Well, how do you feel about the sign that says their name, their teacher's name while grade we're going into? Right, right, right.

So adorable. Oh, you like that. Oh, yeah. He likes it for my daughter. I do, yeah. What about on the last day, like you have the side-by-sides? First day of third grade, last day of third grade. And then you compare, ooh, look how much they've grown.

You like that one too? Yeah, not so much. Can I tell you, I get Adjita on the first day of school. Look, I'm in my 40s, all right? It's been a long time Zabin's in school. Thank God I hated school. I get Adjita when I see the photos. You get anxiety.

You get nervous, you know? Read a book, man. What's that Yiddish? Adjeda. Adjada. I get nervous when I see the pictures. pictures. I remember, you know, what the first day of school. First day school is the ultimate thing you're excited about. And then once you get there, you realize this shit sucks.

Like, right? Like NFL preseason's like that. We were all excited going into the dolphin game yesterday. Oh, this is exciting. We got dolphins preseason. And then once Zach Wilson ends his game, like, this shit sucks. First day of school was like that too. Quick update. I ended up putting it on my story. My niece's first day of school. I tagged you in. it, Zaz. So make sure you see it. And if anybody else sees it, just make sure to repost it so that Zazlo sees it every single time. Can people tell when you're tagged

like something like that on Facebook, can they tell when you click on the feature untag because that's always an issue you know, like when you're in a thread, you know, on text messages and it's a bunch of people in the group. But Greg, you don't want to be in

this group. You don't need these updates. So you want to leave the conversation. Sure. There's a button you can click lead the conversation but they expose you, where it then says Zaslo has left the conversation. And that's insulting, you know? It's like, oh, I'm too good for your conversation. You know what I'm saying? Have you done that?

You left. Right, I know. I'm good with leaving. Right. But I don't want to insult other people. I don't join or leave conversations. I don't want any of that. I'm not in group chats, you know, golf group chat.

I heard somebody talking about earlier today. I don't do that. It was popping yesterday. You are in a group chat. You're in the fantasy league group chat. Okay, I'm in that. I'm in that. But I'm in that for informative purposes, not to small talk and make jokes and, you know, tease and, you know, shout out to other people, chirp at other people.

I'm in it to find out, like, when is the draft? Okay, when's my draft? And I should know because I'm hosting it. Finally, we decided on a draft date. After everybody's going back and forth, there's like the Middle East peace talks. We couldn't arrive at a agree on a draft date. Ridiculous. Where was I?

You do it in person or online your draft? In person. Oh, really? You can still get a crew together in person? It's hard. Yeah, some of them because we're multi-states, right? We have people. Few people on Zoom, but even the nine people local, it's tough. Wow.

It is tough. And you have the big board with the stickers and all that? Yeah, we do, right? All right. Yeah. Do you not know? I'm not the commissioner of that league. I'm the commissioner of BFBI fantasy, of course.

When's that? That's August 28th. Thank you, Billy Veras. Okay, good. Your glasses are a little bit fogged up, Greg. You're all right? Do you want to take a moment and, like, can you see me okay? He did.

All right, because, like, his glasses are fogged, you know? That happens in there a lot. When he talks too much. When he has to talk too much, he feels the pressure and starts to sweat. Is that it? Yeah, okay. So, Dolphins yesterday, Dolphins preseason ends in a tie. Big game, not a big game.

Dolphins? Bears. First preseason game? Not a big game That's not a big game I'm sorry, it's not a big game I found myself sitting on the couch yesterday and obviously like I want to watch two

I want to see how the game starts Tag Ovalia That's right By the way Everyone in that fitness commission None of them knew that they were in it How is that impossible? They had no idea they were even in it

You know what reminds me of Well no you know what reminds me of Remember when Stephen Ross After the Jonathan Martin bully Gate Stephen Ross put together like a commission. Yeah, whatever happened to that commission. But none of the guys who were in it knew they were going to be in it. Curtis Martin was

in it. Jason Taylor was in it? We asked Curtis Martin, I think, like, what was that meeting like? He's like, we met once. I think Tony Dungey was also in it. We were pretty obsessed with that commission to find out what they were actually doing. He said, we met on the phone like once. Do you think they made any

progress, you know, since then? It hasn't happened since. Yeah, they agreed. No bullying. Bullying, not good. And then the commission was dissolved because they They said no bullying, the guy that was bullied out of the league. Everyone else, you're good. Stay in the league. All right, sounds like it worked then.

All right, maybe this will work as well. This fitness council that nobody knows that they're in anyway. I have three observations from the game because I was surprised. I was flipping through the TV and I was surprised that it was on. And I was even more surprised to see Tua playing. It's a big deal. Everyone assumed that he was not going to play. I know it's just a drive, but Caleb Williams didn't play.

Tua famously always heard. shocking to me that he would play in a meaningless preseason game. Well, it's a weird thing now, right? Because when there were four preseason games, and look, there used to be six, all right? But when there were four preseason games, we all... That's crazy. Crazy, right? Six preseason games?

There are four preseason games we all knew. All right, the first preseason game, no starters play. The second one, starters are going to play a bit. The third one, starters are going to play a lot. That's a dress rehearsal. And then in the fourth one, just trying to win a job. All right, you don't want to be playing in that fourth game. Don't get hurt.

Right, the fourth game. Right. Now, it's like every team just has their own rule because there's only three preseason games. Some teams don't play Caleb Williams. Some teams play Joe Burrow. Some teams play Tuauaua. Like, there's no real reason for it anymore. So I wasn't surprised that Tua play.

The only part that maybe surprised me a little bit was when the game starts like, yeah, starting left tackle, starting right tackle. They're not playing today. But Tua is like, oh, all right. That's interesting. Well, Tua did play one series last year in the first game, so it wasn't a big shock that he played. I thought he would play one or two series. I said to my wife at the end of that game, as much as I want to make fun of preseason games and how meaningless they are, that was a pretty entertaining game, I thought.

Like, as preseason openers go, I thought that was entertaining. And not just because it went back and forth and was close, but I thought the quality of play other than Quinn Ewers. That's hilarious, by the way. Quinn Ewers has been raved about the third-string quarterback out of Texas. He's been raved about as being one of the stars of training camp, and he gets in the first game with fairly extended playing time, and he takes a big dump all over the field. Hold on a second.

Quinn Ewers started his first two drives at, like, the five-yard line, and like the three-yard line, respectively. And he hit a bunch of people who were just dropping passes. He wasn't terrible. He lost two fumbles. He did fumble the ball on the three-yard line, which is really good. He's sacked like four times. I mean, get rid of the ball.

I'm just saying that after having what was seen as a really good training camp, he literally and figuratively left the ball on the ground. But Zach Wilson didn't look good either. Oh, Zach Wilson looked terrible. He bounced passes that had Tua done that. I know what a good quarterback looks like. That is not good quarterback. Here are the stats for Quinn yours.

He closed with 4 of 16, 63 yards, zero touchdown, zero interceptions, two sacks, two lost fumbles. at 4 or 16 is pretty bad There were a lot of drop passes And he was throwing in tight windows I'm not a Quinn Ure's You know, apologists But I'm just saying

I was watching and I was seeing Like this isn't going great for Quinn yours But a lot of this was not completely his fault I would say the positive I took away Although it was against a guy named Bejant The starting second You know who that is

Playboy game Bejit started in this league He still deserves that qualifier He was their backup quarterback He deserves that qualifier CrossFit guy Case Keith Edom was lighting things up yesterday, huh?

No one watched. Ethan Bonner, Storm Duck, the starting secondary looked solid. The starting defense, while against Baygent, looked fine. That was a good, a positive, I'd say. I mean, everyone keeps telling me. I'm not going to sit here like I've been going to training camp, all right? I'm some type of analyst for a PFF as pro football. You look like one.

It's just the confidence man manages to make it. Got a little Mel Kuiper in you, too. Yeah, thank you, thank you. Everyone tells me this dolphin secondary is going to be horrific. Of course. You know, I mean, Minka, we know, Minka's good, all right. But everyone else says this Dolphin's secondary is going to be terrible. I'm not judging it by yesterday.

No Caleb Williams. You didn't see any of their other starting receivers out there. And you know what? I'm going to defend Quinn Ewers for a second here. It's the first ever professional football reps that he's gotten in an actual game. He's out there with third stringers. Like, he's out there with third stringers to throw to, third stringers blocking for him. Can we get...

Also third stringers against him, though. That's true, all right, but third stringers are things. the NFL level, all right? They still know how to run, rush a passer. They still know how to try and tackle, all right? I'm not going to get too hard on Quinn yours right now. Zach Wilson, I would tell you, he looked terrible. That's, I mean, I'd much rather this one, I know it's one game in.

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Don Levatard. I've never stepped foot on that campus. If you told me right now, your life depends on it. Go to Santa Fe University and just take a picture. Stugats. I would die. I don't know where it is. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats.

The problem with the Dolphins is they have an injury-prone starting quarterback. You never know what the next concussion is always one sack away. and they've never had a quality backup. This is the team Scott Mitchell that needs the quality backup, I mean in Tua's career. I'm confused because Fitzpatrick was good enough. His rating was the best of the three quarterbacks

at 92.8 and Tua was 85.4. What did Zach do wrong? Was it the four sacks that he took? Well, number one, he threw that one duck out, which should have been a pick six. He should have had a pick six. six, he bounced passes that were like screen passes that he bounced. Would have been a walk-in touchdown and he threw it about six-yard shorts.

All right. He holds on to the football. He's in like what? His fourth year in the league at this week? He's wearing zero. That's crazy. He's wearing zero. You can't take that serious.

Somebody wears zero. You can't have that on your football team. No, you can't. Not at the quarterback position. That's for sure. Give me something to feel good about, though, about the dolphins. Was there something we saw yesterday? I just tried and you pooped on it.

I like Gordon looked good. I like that number 80. That punt returner that you got. Good field vision. Eskridge? I'll take your word for it, but 82 looked good. They featured Malik Washington in the opening drive, and he looks good. And also, at least you don't have the patch that the Chicago Bears have on their uniform. Now, I know it's Stalin or a former owner, and they do that, that franchise.

I think it's massive. Oh, was that the M? Yeah. It's for Virginia Hallis of McCasky, and the M takes precedents over the H. That's bad. It's a fantastic. Yeah. Abolish uniform accoutrements.

I love a good uniform accoutrements. I love patches. But this one, this is one of the biggest memorial patches I have ever seen on a uniform. It resembles a football, and it's practically the same size as a football. What's the best accoutrement ever? Yeah, what's the standard for Jersey accoutrements? Does this count? The Jordan logo on the Gator uniforms?

Does that count? No, that's a sponsor. That's a sponsor. I'm sorry. I've never met at Coutremont when it comes to uniforms. I'm not sure exactly what it means. Who had the best donation of life for a jersey? Hmm.

Didn't Bill Russell recently? I mean, it was just the number six, but everybody knew who it was. The Lamar Hunt won on the Kansas City Chiefs uniform isn't bad. They already have one the side of the bear's jersey for George Hollis. George Hallis. But that one's subtle. That one's on the sleeve. This is massive.

Jackie Robinson? It looks like one of the Ray Finkel cookies. This bothered you, though, Greg. You didn't like that. No, no. I don't believe uniform should have commercial sponsorship on them. I don't believe they should have an homage to someone who's just passed away. And that includes anybody.

Like, even if the owner has passed away, there are myriad other ways to honor that person. Do it at halftime of the home opener. You know, have a memorial on the field. But to me, a uniform is a little bit sacred. It should be pristine. The only thing on the uniform should be the team logo. Maybe your name on the back and your number, as long as it's not zero for a quarterback.

Coming from the guy who literally put an accoutreement on our show today, promoting his book. Yeah, well, yesterday it was World Lion Day. You know, which is a big deal. You're essentially doing to the show what is done to these uniforms. You're just putting something there. That's a little bit of a leap. That people might see and like, oh, I'll go.

buy that. Yeah. What's wrong with that? It's look at something and acknowledge that's what it is. That's a Nike swoosh that you've put on our show today. Really? Yeah. Only if he put it on his actual shirt. Thank you. Thank you. Look at the shot right now. It's a little thing in the corner. I'm like, what is that? Oh, I can go buy that. Yesterday wasn't World Nike Day, okay? It was World Lion Day. If it was World Nike Day, you put the swoosh on the jerseys, that makes sense. Right. World Lion Day. Don't take that lightly. Not to be confused with World Lions Day, an entirely different celebration that I could tell you all about. Well, what is that? Oh, you're not asking about it. If there was a World

Lions Day, I would be the one to tell you about it because I am Honolulu Izzy, the Detroit Lions expert. Well, you had quite the first assignment there, a suspended game. It was interesting because, I don't know if you noticed my shirt, by the way, solid Honolulu Blue. This is going through stages, my transformation into Honolulu, Izzy. And so the first game, man, was that stressful. Here we're all trying to figure out, oh, who's the backup quarterback going to be? Is it going to be Kyle Allen? We don't know. And then all of a sudden, you get a running back, Maurice Norris, on the field just passed out. And everybody, you know it's scary in a preseason game where we got the prayer circles. Earlier in the game, by the way, I feel like this

happened too much this week. Well, you could have known, the Dolphins, I mean, sorry, sorry, sorry. The lions should have known that it was going to be a bad day in injury when they had an offensive linemen get hurt basically for the season during warmups. Okay. And so in the beginning of the fourth quarter, when Norris went down and got sent to a hospital, both teams, the Atlanta Falcons and the Lions, they snapped the ball one more time but didn't actually do anything and let's let the clock go out. So the NFL said, hey, okay, this game's over. Quite the gesture. Very next day, he's fine. Don't stress it. No worries. So everybody's good. We can go back to thinking about the backup quarterback situation. And just so you know, it's Kyle Allen by a long shot right now. He's way ahead of the third stringer whose name I do not remember. Oh, Hendon Hooker. So they snapped the ball once the player left the field after being down for a long time. The ambulance came out. They took them off the field. The players, I guess, didn't want to play anymore, right?

And they snapped the football with like 14 some odd minutes left in the fourth. And they all just stood there and prayed while the clock was running because no one was touching the football, right? That is correct. That's what happened. And you know what? That's probably what they should have done in the Buffalo game during the season where a player actually lost a life. Wasn't that the first quarter, though? That's a lot of time to just sit there.

Just canceled the game. Somebody died on the field. So the Dolphins yesterday, I think what grabbed our attention the most, right, was the very first drive of the game. Two was marching them down the field. It's like a 10-plus-minute drive. They converted a fourth down. They converted one or two third downs as well.

And they get to the one-yard line, and they run the ball four times. And the reaction that I saw, people were angry. They're running the ball four straight times. Did they get in? No. They got stopped. Yeah, the drive stalled on the. one-yard line.

They did not get in. And isn't the whole point in preseason? Look, we're not good at this thing. We're not good at running the ball short-yard at situations. In the regular season, we're not going to do something four times that we're not good at, but it's the pre-season. We want to work on something. Why was everyone getting all wrapped up in Mike McDaniel's play calling?

Well, you want to work on it in practice so that when you get to the preseason game, Preseason to get one yard is there, not just one time, but two times, three times, or four times. If you are going to do that, you should, or you're going to work on that, you should be able to accomplish that against second stringers in a preseason game. So I'd be pretty annoyed to. The next drive, they did the exact same thing, and Alexander Madison got in on, like, fourth down, and barely got in. So I guess credit to them for working on it, but it seems like this is not going to be an effective play for the. them. I'm more just curious what they're going to do in the regular season because what we've seen in the past is Mike McDaniel first down and then he's going to throw it three times.

So it's like if you're working on this to actually, okay, we've improved at it, I'm going to now in the regular season, I trust my team to do this. I'm skeptical that we're just going to see Mike McDaniel, oh, first down it fails. I'm going to go to my safety blankets. Which to me is a sign that it's not working for him. When you are this offensive mastermind, supposedly, you've got, oh, I've got all these different ways to get yardage. But now you've circled back to, oh, I got to get that one yard. I got to do it the tough way, and I'm just going to keep doing it that same way over and over again. Otherwise, we're just not going to get it done. That just means you're out of ideas, and we're going to go the old tough route when

the dolphins historically, not very tough. Well, the frustration to me is that in Devon H.N., they have one of the fastest running backs in the entire league. And they were running the ball really well with him that drop. And my point is, instead of running right up the middle, battering your head into a wall, how about you pitch the ball to H. How about your run wide, how about you take advantage of his speed at least once in four down? That doesn't really work on the goal line, right? I don't think he was in for any those goal line plays,

right? No, he wasn't, but maybe he should have been. Well, Tyree Kill already told us he shouldn't be in there in those short-yard situations because he's small. I literally did that all last year. H.M. was like terrible in short-yard. I think the concern yesterday was you just realized, like, running backs are not very big. Like, they're not

going to bully and run anyone over right now. In combination with bad play calling, it's just never good. When you said the fourth down conversion in that first drive, I lit up. I was like, wow, what was the play call on that? Because last year, their play calls on fourth down were terrible. No, the play call on that fourth down, I think it was a pass over the middle, wasn't it? I think that was one of the fourth down completions there.

So that stood out, obviously, from yesterday with them not being able to run the ball on the goal line. Even though overall on that drive, they actually ran the ball pretty well with Devon A. hand. Otherwise, I liked Ollie Gordon. Like, Ollie Gordon was a big time running back going into last season at Oklahoma State. I mean, he had some all-field stuff, so it took some, like, Heisman consideration, attention away from him. But he was a big time

running back in college. I liked what I saw from Ollie Gordon. I hope he winds up making the team. Otherwise, there's not a whole lot to chat about there yesterday with that Dolphin game, unless I'm missing anything. No, I mean, that's the thing about preseason games now. They're meaningless.

They're meaningful for the player who's on the edge of making the team. That's the only thing that matters in the whole world to those players. But to fans, to media, like, why does anybody care? An example I always give, the year the Dolphins went 17 and 0, the perfect season. They went two and three in the preseason. Like, there's no correlation between winning and losing in the preseason and how you're going to do that season. But did you see that 70-yard field goal, though, Greg?

I did, and it didn't count. How about that? But it counts if you talk about it. Well, does it? It counts if there are points on the board. I think somebody has kicked a 75-yard field goal in pre-game warm-ups, right? Why don't we never talk about that? That's a good point by Greg.

Advantage, Craig. I will say that if you listen to people around the league, these coaches tend to value these split-squad practices that they have. Like, the dolphins are traveling to Detroit to work out with the Detroit line. Yeah, they're on the road. for like 11 straight days, right? Yeah, it's a weird trip. Did you say the Lions?

You should also know that the actual field goal record of 66 yards by Justin Tucker was kicked against the Lions. Honolulu Izzy all over it. But yeah, they value these way more. And they seem to have genuine effort. That's why you get in all these fights. Those videos should start trickling in on social media. Did you see that the dolphins in this joint practice this past Friday, I think it was,

this joint practice they had in Chicago with the Bears, that there was a lot of A fight. There was a fight among Dolphin players on the field. Like the Dolphins' defense were fighting each other. Not the Bears. No, not, no, the Bears. It was supposed to fight the other team. No, they were fighting each other. And McDaniel broke it up. Yeah, McDaniel

ran onto the field and he had to break it up and get in the middle of the scrub. If Mike McDaniel's breaking it up, it's not a real fight. Let's be real. I mean, man, that was my thought, to be honest with him. A little guy like what, 5, 65 inches, whatever, Samson says, running in massive guys with all the pads. He's not breaking that up.

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That was big. Wake him up. Uh-oh. He doesn't want to be bothered anymore. Now it's getting tense because he didn't need that as a result. He needs something that happens. You can see him mother effing on it.

Can we bother? Are we bothering you right now? Turn on your microphone, Greg. My microphone's on. Stugats. Paint the scene. The paint the scene is I got to go to work. Good night.

This is the Dan Lebatar show with the Stugats. I did sample a lot of the preseason NFL because there were people that I was interested in seeing. Because you were bored this weekend. Well, no, I certainly was not bored this weekend at all. But I tried my best to follow the sport, you know, social media and whatnot. You look for throws. You look for individual. highlights. I wasn't able to watch Cam Ward's full game, but I did see some. I saw some highlights,

but I think the talk of the NFL in terms of that position rookie was it. People were more dialed in to see what Shador Sanders would do. I got to say, those are NFL throws, my man. He looked good. I'm watching, so it's Friday night. The Browns are on NFL Network, all right? Those are my colleagues now, you know, because I also work ESPN. It was my co-workers. And the game's on NFL Network. And I have it on the small TV in this. Aslo Manchin. I'm not putting Browns preseason on the big TV, Greg, all right? So I got the Browns preseason game on the small TV in the Zaslo Manchin family room.

Yes, because on the big TV, obviously, I'm watching Friday Night Smackdown. And in the middle of the game, my son, my 16-year-old comes running into him and he goes, put the Browns game on. Shadur is dealing. I got him plus six and a half. Like a true degenerate gambling on Shadur Sanders and the preseason game. But Mike's right. I'm watching Shadur for, I mean, he played the entire first half.

He looked pretty good, Greg. Yeah. He gets so much attention, whether it's due or undue. I read something that Shadur's mother was dressed inappropriately at the game or something like. Really? He cares. Who cares about any of that? Prove yourself.

You know, he, okay, he looked pretty good in his first preseason game. means zero in terms of what kind of a rookie season he's going to have or whether or not he wins the starting job. I think the betting odds are against him winning the starting job. Well, I think they may have changed. Are the betting odds against him winning the starting job because it's like, all right, Joe Flacco is definitely going to start. It doesn't, like, it doesn't even matter if Shadur were to win the job.

Joe Flacco started. One game in, it seems pretty ridiculous. He was drafted where he was drafted. Yeah, that's kind of crazy. You're getting the full LeBron James endorsement, which normally not a good thing, at least not in that. In George Shabaz Napier. Take it easy.

In basketball, it's not a good thing. In football, it's okay. And my thought on Shador watching him in college was he did what he thought he could get away with. So sometimes that meant sort of a different type of pass, maybe sitting back there in the pocket a little bit too much. But when he needed to, he had the NFL throws. So if he can eliminate the silly stuff and just not play over confident football and just make those NFL throws, I think he's always had it. Oh, I think I read on social media. that he had an alter.

I didn't know that it was caught on video, that he had an altercation with Tony Grosy. Yeah, so, all right, so Shadur had, he had a really good first preseason start. Like, no one can say otherwise. He had a really, really good start. And so after the game, Tony Grosy, who is a... Grossie, who is a...

Whatever, man. What you're about to say is a legendary Cleveland Brown's B-Rower. No, don't put words to my mouth. He is a long time. Not legendary. Long time. He's both. He's both.

He's both. He felt like a shot at my dad. Whatever, man. I don't know. Maybe it's being respectful to your dad. Maybe not everybody gets to be called legendary. He's a great Cody of Brown's beat them. Another insult.

Him and Mary Kay Cabot have been around covering that team since they were the old Browns. Okay. So Tony Grosie, you know, everything that Mike just said, is after the game. I don't know if you, did you see this, Greg? Do you know what we're here? I saw it after the fact. Okay. So Shadur.

Well, none of us saw it live. Okay. Okay. Well, yes, we weren't there. So Shadur, who had a really good game. listen or watch this he confronts Tony Grosie in the hall after the game

I'd be hoping you got something positive you always say negative stuff about and I'm like I ain't do nothing to you I didn't see nothing positive to everything but I just don't know I think about everything

but I'm going to say come on Tony It's hard to hear what Tony's saying, but you can clearly hear Shadur like, dude, say something nice about me. That was actually pretty pleasant for that type of exchange, but it's also days after Dion Sanders says Shador doesn't pay attention to any of the press clippings. Maybe wait till week one of the regular season to do that. That's my only thing. Well, so that's the obvious counter is, okay, you just played a half of preseason football, likely against other guys. who may not even make the league, and you're a fifth round pick, maybe we're not confronting

reporters after a half of football in the precincts. To me, after watching that clip, I don't think it's something where he sought him out. It felt like he saw him, and he was like, oh, yeah, this guy doesn't have a whole lot of good things to say about me, and then had that confrontation, which was pretty lighthearted. I think it was totally fine. I'm on board with Sanders doing that. Totally play on for me. That's as cute as one of those can go, honestly.

It's great publicity for Tony Grosy, quite frankly, and for Shador, my reaction is you're a rookie in the NFL. You have a lot on your plate. Why are you worried about what somebody is writing about you? Remember, he doesn't. We've been told he doesn't actually worry about that. None of the players ever pay attention. Anything Rittner said, they never do. Has anything like that happened to you, Greg?

Because we said Tony Grosy is basically the Greg Cody of the Brown's beat. I'm wondering if... I don't think that's true, though, because Cody has a... very, Cody's, at least what I think is, his reputation is, I think is someone who's very pleasant, while Tony Grosy, I'm pretty sure his reputation is someone who's super negative. He's more, I mean, he covers the Browns. You would be too. Not a lot of great stuff has happened there.

Like, there's not a lot of times that Tony Grosy's on the wrong side of this. You know what I mean? But they're a little different. Greg loves the cover in the dolphins. Is synonymous with covering the dolphins. He's more of a columnist, so he's not around. Tony Grossey is still about that life. Day in, day out, Boree, Ohio.

Yeah, that's a big difference. See, I'm rarely at a Dolphins practice or in their locker room. You're above that. Except, yeah, well, I like to think so. Except after a game, I'll be in the locker room. How many dolphins right now, and I'm not trying, I'm just asking, would be, like, would know who Greg Cody is, you think? I, you know, I have no idea. I would like to think.

Does two and know who you are? Yeah, I think so. Greg's not a Dolphins beat reporter, though. Does Tyreek Hill know who you are? I would imagine. I mean, the better question is, do the dolphins read the Miami Herald? If the answer is yes, then I would think they know who I am. They just see the aggregation, social media.

In print form? You've got like Tyreek, like his warning paper. Tariq walks out to the driveway. Back to the original question, though. Have you ever had anything like that? Occasionally over the years. Can you share with me in the audience? Because I'm curious to know, like, if you've ever had Tessie exchanges with players

so I can know who on my list. I can hate to join AJ Burnett, who once called Izzy Ugly. I didn't like that one, bet. Who did? Yeah. It's A.J. Burnett called Izzy ugly. What?

I know. Factually incorrect. Izzy's not ugly. Were you ugly that day, maybe? I don't think so. Wow. AJ Burnett. You know, come on now.

What do you ever do? I know. No hitter. No hitter. Okay. Eight walks, though, but yeah. There have been hundreds of no hitters thrown. I think he had like the most walks in a no hitter.

Might have been nine. Did he really? Yeah. At least at the time, his eight-walk, no-hitter was the most thing. I believe the headline is effectively wild. Didn't he also knock out a window, a pickup truck that was driving behind? But he claims he did it on purpose, right? That was 100% on purpose.

It was not even close to the strike zone. It was in-between innings, you know, Billy LaMarland going around on a truck. He just decided, you know what, I'm going to try to break this truck's window. You're going to drive by a truck. He tried to hit Billy with the ball. Just happened to hit a win. World Series 2-time World Series champion. I know he was hurt for 03, but he didn't win one with the Yankees.

Well, be careful because Jeff Conine was very quick to point out when I brought up to him last week. Conan was very quick to point out he's the only active player on both World Series teams. One of the more memorable parts of that where he's just like, Louis, technically not. Doesn't count. I mean, he played that season. Because Louis got a ring but wasn't on the roster. Louis was absolutely on both teams. No, I was the only active one.

Trust me. Can we just, if we're going to, I didn't really understand that. I know he's friends with David and he came in because David, wanted him to come in but like he didn't seem to want to be part of any of what we were doing that day right he apparently had a great time that's what david like david said he texted him about me afterwards about how awesome i was he's he's dry and also i heard he came into town with a bit of a reputation of having one of those adrian peterson handshakes yeah so i gave him the business and i dominated that i probably went in too aggressive so we're going to try for a third time now yeah

what is one of those occasions that you were confronted negatively It's happened by a player The only one that stands out in my mind was I forget what city it was But it was a road game many years ago And Tim Bowens I think that's a tough one again

I lose that one right away You're right Mr. Bowen Yes sir anything else I could do for you It's a scary one And he there was some yelling involved Were you yelling back at him? I don't recall, no, I don't think I did. Let's go. Paint the picture. Give us the details.

I mean, I don't, look when he played for the dolphins. This is probably in the 90s. I mean, I don't remember details. I got to tell you, if I get yelled at by Tim Bowens, remember every word. I remember every little detail. Yeah. I, I, okay, that's all right. You take it, you take it and try it. Same question. Is he Gutierrez? You've been on the beat. I got a couple of them. There's one with a coach that's less exciting, but I'll tell you that one in a second. There was one time now that I think about it where I pissed off Shaquille O'Neal. And we were on the road, or they were on the road, at a practice. And during the practice, he mimicked, where's my camera, he mimicked, he goes, you, me?

And he went over his leg. What's he breaking? He broke a stick, apparently. That was our relationship. And I was like, what the hell is going on here? And I asked the PR guy about it. He goes, apparently he's not happy with you. And I was like, well, no shit.

The mumbler. And then the second of it was a coach. It was Tyron Liu, while I had been doing the jump on. regular occasion on ESPN, Rest and Power of the Jump. And I said something about LeBron James being the real coach of the Cleveland Cavaliers. And so, which is a joke everybody was doing, the entirety of LeBron James' career.

I just threw that in there. And you know, it's lazy on my part. And so one time I was in a hallway doing a Cavs game, it might have been Cavs Warriors, I don't remember. And I see Tyron Lou flanked by two of hit, one security guy, one assistant coach, walking down the middle of the hallway. And then after he passes me,

stops, turns around, comes back, and he goes, you know what? I got something to tell you. He's like, the other day you were on that show and you said that LeBron was the real coach and you got all the chuckled out of him. Ha, ha, ha. He's like, that shit pisses me off. He's like, I hear that all the time. And I actually like you, I respect you.

And to hear you say that really bother me. I was like, you know what, Ty? You're right. I mean, just the fact that you're able to come up and talk to me about this. Cool, you're right. Never do it again. My bad. See, Dad, that's how you give details of a story.

Yeah, but that was how much. years ago. Just make it up. Make something up. That was probably like six, seven years ago. You know what? I'm not going to make something. No, actually eight, nine years ago.

Okay, it didn't come to, it blows. Tim, Tim Bowen never threw a punch at me. What did you say? What did I say? It was something I'd written, something derogatory about the defense. I don't remember. Did he break a stick over his leg and point at you? No, he did not.

Do you remember a conversation you had 25 years ago? I doubt it. I do remember the memorable ones. If Tim Bowens yelled at me, I'd be like, yeah, that's one that certainly gets filed away.