The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Until I Say It, It Hasn't Been Said

Episode Date: April 30, 2024

Pablo Torre joins the show to discuss the latest episode of 'Pablo Torre Finds Out' in which he dives into the infamous Yankees' wife swap of 1973. Greg finally reveals his injury and marvels at the healing powers of the human body. Plus, Pablo and the crew get into the New York Knicks and Philadelphia 76ers series and try to corner Pablo on which team he is actually a fan of. Then, the show finally gets to the Panthers epic series-clinching win over the Tampa Bay Lightning, and how it could represent a changing of the guard in Florida hockey. Who had all of the takes about the Panthers first: Greg or everyone else? Also, the Heat lost to the Boston Celtics in deflating fashion that has them on the brink of elimination. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Benjamin Moore, see the love. This is the Don LeBattor Show with the StuGuts Podcast. I've been telling you that Pablo Torre is consistently finding that at the end of his curiosities there are a whole bunch of things that a lot of people would be interested in knowing more about. And I was just saying before he came on with us here that just this weekend with a group of people, I was talking about something that happened in 1973 that if it happened today would be truly amazing, but it happened 50 years ago And now he's doing a story on that thing and Pablo go ahead and tell the crew because I told all of them that they're

Going to be interested in the subject matter tell them what it is that you you're putting out in public Yeah, it's the Yankee wife swap story Which I think Greg as he adjusts his phantom mask may have a flicker of recognition for. But say that phrase again, wife swap. Wife swap, the Yankee wife swap, and you should know that the wife swap part of this undersells the swap. It's a real life story of something that happened in 1973 as you said, 50 years ago now, and it's about two starting pitchers for the New York Yankees, two best friends, two lefties, two guys who were truly together all of the time

who decided to not just trade wives, and I mean this in the most like carnal and romantic ways, I also mean that they traded their kids, they each had two kids, their pets, their furniture, their houses. Really, it was a husband swap. But they changed lives in the middle of their baseball careers. And this was just a thing that happened. And if you remember it, it is arguably the most batshit crazy thing that's ever happened in sports history. But it's been 50 years. And so I

just got to, you know, investigate and report out what happened then and after and since and it culminates in a whole bunch of stuff that i think people probably are into um... purely again if you're into like crazy bat shit gossip and also robots was i right when i said all of you would be interested in a look learning slightly more about in nineteen seventy three wife swap story problems right i remember it uh... i had just been hired by the fort lauderdale yankees to be their official score even though i was only like eighteen years old well and um...

i remember at a spring training steinbrenner giving a big interview surrounded by reporters about Kekich and Peterson swapping families. And it was the most surreal thing. I wasn't, you know, I didn't, I was covering high schools at the time. The story had nothing to do with me, but I peripherally, I remember the circus and this is long before ESPN Sports Center. So you're right, we had a man on the right, Pablo. We had a man on the ground.

You could have been a man on the ground because you were around. He was there for that. You were there for that. We just hit the Greg Cody wheelhouse night. Put it on the poll, Juju, at LeBataard Show. Are you stunned that the Greg Cody wheelhouse is a 1973 story about wife swapping?

Well, it's not like it wasn't covered at the time, but Pablo's right. Compared to how it would be covered today, it wasn't, that's for sure. PabloToryFindsOut is the name of the podcast. It's part of the Levitard and Friends Network. I don't think, Greg, you realize how funny it sounds that because of your breathing and that mask,

there's a huffing and puffing quality acoustically to everything you're saying that's echoing off the inside of your mask Yeah, I can appreciate that and whatever actor played the Phantom I feel for that guy because this is hell on wheels wearing this bad actor did have a five dollar mask from Amazon if I $6.39 should we just do the reveal so he should stop suffering. I need a ruling from the shipping container on this Should we let what what's the payoff here? Because the bruise isn't as bad as it was yesterday.

I was hoping it would get worse, it did not. Really? Why would you hope that? Because he apologized to me earlier for it healing so quickly. I did. Just visually, not actually health-wise worse. I just wanted it to look a little worse

and then everything to get better because it'd make for better content. Yeah, well three days ago, my right eye was circled by blood red. I looked like a raccoon, but it was blood red around my right eye. And the healing powers of the human body are pretty remarkable

and now it doesn't look nearly as bad. All right, well then just reveal it so we can get on with what's happening here and just be done with it. Okay, there's the anti-climax of that. Ta-da! Yes, there it is. So I mean it's.

You should just kept the mask. Oh wow. Ah! It's healing. Wow. Dan, you happy now? Yes, better. Wait, can we, can you create a T-shirt with Greg's face

and the caption is the healing powers of the human body are remarkable. He's hideous. He's hideous, thank you, Mike. Pablo, there are a number of different things that I wanna talk to you about, but one of them is the back page of the New York Post, Joel Embiid and everything happening in New York,

because Miami fans have something to be happy about in the next uh... couple of rounds either boston or new york is guaranteed to lose but in is pablo a sixers fan or an expensive i don't know let's see where we are with all of this pablo i'd take us through what this back page cover yes so i do i'll indeed if you're not familiar as a way for the back page to pop up here joellen bead his body feels like rex face looks so he's not he's not well right now okay

uh... but the most hated men in new york is the uh... is the big two hundred point five on the back page of the post nix fans set to tell and be how they really feel and at this point it just feels like bullying uh... i've spent the weekend reflecting on how I've been handling this story and I have criticism for Embiid in a way that makes me feel like a guy who turned heal. That's what Mina told us, Dan and me, on our group chat.

What an incredible heal turn for Pablo to start killing Joel Embiid and get all these Sixers fans mad at him. And at this point, when I say to you, okay, that Joel Embiid had one point in the fourth quarter of this last game that he had zero rebounds in the fourth quarter of the previous game that in the first two games he had zero rebounds i believe in the second half um or whatever it is lots of zeros when it comes to that guy um he had one point in the fourth quarter um so look to me it's just stating the obvious and the fact that he is the most hated man in New York feels like this city's appreciation for a punching bag, for a pinata. It feels like it's pinata season on Joel Embiid.

Pablo, this is what is so great, fascinating, humanizing about all the storytelling that is in sports that's so wonderful. New York's Dug's is about to get so obnoxious yes so what not to have any incomes the guy uniquely qualified in body type and character to handle to know not to handle this just to be a troll and after three years of my body works perfect and look here chop i'm bigger than everyone chop and all he is is a troll and he's welcoming the fight

but now he's got bills Paul Z stew got his face is drooping his he can't blink his left eye because you should be wearing a phantom mask I thought you were talking about Taylor we're gonna go to Taylor he's on a train he's almost arrived at Madison Square Garden but what's about to fall on Embiid's head, Pablo? This is the place where people are made into either heroes or crushed under it, because I would not want to be him headed into that. Yes, the power, the superpower of New York,

the real thing New York City can sell is that it has this spotlight that actually melts people. It's a thing. That building specifically, more than Yankee Stadium even, that building is a spotlight. You shine on people and you see whether you can actually destroy them. And Joellen Bede in the fourth quarter,

the reason I say the fourth quarter is because it is a proxy for pressure. And pressure has never felt more palpable than in the garden when it's sold out and the Knicks are onto something. And they're onto it. No, and, and they just trampled your building so that after the game you're saying you're pissed off because New York, hey, it wasn't Philadelphia sports town, Stugat.

I would not want to be Joelle Embiid. My body doesn't work right. The stress is in my face. It doesn't allow my left eye to blink New York is coming for me and I don't know what to do about their little guy and then they start offensive rebounding and I can't get Hardenstein off my back like I wouldn't want to be him tonight and these are the night hey Joel MVP can you put up 50 even though your body doesn't work I mean

I understand what you're saying but Joel Joel Embiid is gonna be fine either way. I'm just saying it would scare me is all I'm saying. I understand, but Joel Embiid lives in this place where if he wins, great. We'll celebrate him tomorrow, and if he loses, no one's gonna blame Joel Embiid. Because he'll blame everyone else. He cares very much. He's playing the way that he is because his body is broken. Yep. No human being with

their body in this condition would want this set of circumstances falling on their head. It depends on the athlete. Some athletes welcome this. Okay, Michael, welcome this. Not if your body doesn't work right, Stu. You remember the flu game? Not if the Bell's palsy is in your face. It's a stress disease. I understand, but the great athletes, they look forward to tonight, to shutting up that crowd. Say whatever you want. I'm going to shut you up.

We're going back to Philly for a game six. And I am telling you, as we sit here today, I'm not as brave or strong as the great athletes. I would fall apart under these conditions. What I'm saying is that I've watched joe l and b now for almost a decade i have not seen and this is the criticism i have of them he has not risen to those moments i got people really mad at me because i said he to step up in a big game

and of course he scored he said he has the greatest postseason resume this postseason of his entire careers for fifty the other night and that is still true alongside the fact that at the end of the game it doesn't look like he is seizing the moment i get that this makes me sound like a sport every philadelphia uh... sports fan i suppose which i count myself as in the you know last decade for the sixers

we turn into sports radio callers because by the end of it you're just yelling at your television and saying to somebody be better and yet with joelle and be that i do think that he has not shown a comfort under pressure and when you're the guy who's the troll near the guy who is so who is so fun because you look like you don't give up

the fact that you look like you're giving every single f, sorry Roy, that's the problem now. Is that, oh right, you're the opposite of your brand now, you look scared and broken, and the latter I understand physically, the former is what makes me want to call into a radio station. It's fascinating just storyline from the idea that if you're watching this the way pablo is from the start of the process this is fifteen years of northeast basketball new york hasn't mattered for fifteen years philadelphia has been building and

all they have to show for losing on purpose in embarrassing themselves is this broken thing that now falls under the light of the magnifying glass when the Sun is burning ants it's like you're what's left of this go save it in Madison Square Garden under impossible conditions except you're the best player on the floor you're the MVP yes yes this is where these stories get made still calling these impossible conditions he has a great number two in maxi. The team is good.

They made a mistake with Jimmy Butler over to- I'm talking about his body, Stu Gantz. I get Dan, I get the body part. You don't though is what I'm saying. You don't. He's still playing at a very high level, even while broken. I know, but you're asking him to play at a higher level.

Yup, flu game. It's like watching a seven foot Greg Cody play center. That's what Joe Allen Beat has been like all year. Thank you. I don't know if that's a compliment. It is. Don LeBretard. Our Panther group chat, we're confident against the lightning. This is a different team. You're a Panther group chat though. No, I think, no, but dude, you're so wrong on that. We've been terrified of this team forever. And I think there's a different energy where the Panthers, they want the lightning. Stugats.

I want t-shirts made for this Panther run, what could be this Panther run. Our Panther group chat, we're not afraid of the lightning. That's a tagline for World Raw 3. This is the Don LeVatar Show with the Stugats. ["The Star-Spangled Banner"] This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats. I'm sitting right in the middle, Stugats, of a hugely weird sports time in South Florida. The pandemic made everyone crazy. The last five years of pressing the gas on on sports. We're just gonna give you,

we're gonna inundate you with all things in sports. There's been an era of heat basketball played over the last five years. And we have burned through the Jimmy Butler years. The last 15 years, listen to what I'm gonna tell you here. The last 15 years of basketball has been dominated by lebron james and he's given us twenty percent of what his economy is like he yes he gave he birthed a sports movement in a

town where nothing one nothing grow what he and dwayne wade and those guys built is the only thing worth the shit in this town for 20 years in sports the dolphins gave us one season the panthers have been bad forever and today people are tuning in nationally because we're an obnoxious heat show about to watch boston and new york play for the top of the conference and what happened at the arena last night if you're watching the end of an era there's something heartbreaking in it but at the very same time the Florida Panthers who Greg Cody's ready

to make an announcement about are you guys ready because he Greg Cody came in here and yes he's Homer man but Greg Cody came in here you ready to make this announcement the only real big announcement we had today I am I'm ready the Florida Panthers for the first time in thirty franchise years are going to raise the stanley cup waste the cop listen by it's a great season for the n h l i can never remember as many

hundred-point teams great season tough competition i get all that the kachak trade turned a key. Paul Maurice is one of the all-time great coaches. Why are you guys ready to win? Roy is rivaling Tony Kornheiser and I got that right at this point. He just dejected. I said that. Well he said it first. I mean. I said that already. Yeah. Okay. And in that case I'm not announcing, I'm reiterating. Why? Thank you. Why? Okay. Piggybacking. And one more thing. And Bill Zito does not get nearly enough credit. You're right. Okay.

Dale Talon was an accomplished NHLGM. When they got rid of Dale Talon and brought in this guy who spent his career as an agent Everybody's going Bill Zito. He has been great. He's made great hires. I said all we've said Everything you're saying it's all been said. Okay, you got to understand one thing me maximum. That's right. I say it Hasn't been said. Boom. Okay, understand that. You're the mayor. Until I say it, it hasn't been said. Me maximum. Me maximum. Me maximum. Me maximum. Me maximum. Me maximum. It just happened to me. Me maximum. F*** yeah.

Greg is king and you're his peasants. Me maximum. F*** yeah! Greg is king and you're his peasants Me maximum! F*** yeah! My way is the only way, yeah! If we share a hotel room You know who you answer to Me maximum! F*** you!

My comfort is of most importance Me maximum! F*** you! Say it again so they can hear it in the back air! When you are the patriarch, no one else's feelings matter! Vacation! Me Maxima! Restaurant! Me Maxima!

Articles! Me Maxima! Coding shows! Me Maxima! PSBI! Me Maxima! Articone! Be Maxima! Tony Show! Be Maxima! PSBI! Be Maxima! Beck In My Tech! Be Maxima! Peha 3! Be Maxima!

It's Hee Ha Me! Blink Yeah! I think it's an excellent lean in. You should lean in absolutely too. I'm going to be self-involved, self-absorbed, media member. Be Maxima! That kind of thing! Be Maxima! That kind of thing! Be Maximal! And you know it!

Be Maximal! Ride of a lion! Be Maximal! Boat shoot! Be Maximal! Miller Lite! Be Maximal! In my garage!

Be Maximal! All night! Be Maximal! Falling down! Getting hurt! That kind of thing. Yeah! All right.

So good. All right. But the points, the points that i'm saying i know that we can be pardoned media sports people post fifty years old this is an old room covering sports in this town for a long time and we haven't had i don't think uh... a night that felt quite like last night when i care what happens with the he where you like who will okay, Boston got better and this is their prime and Jason Tatum has played in a lot of important games since 25-26 and they got hurt at the

wrong time and and maybe the Heat can recover and and fix it this offseason but it feels like these two teams have been fighting at the top for five years and now one of the tires has blown off and in the other corner of our city, the hockey team, most championship worthy thing we've had in hockey down here and it's just really good and exciting, take out that specific opponent that specific way. Six to one, get out of here. Your style of play dominated, but our style wins now. To beat that team that way, you could put it at the height

of as good as Panthers fans have ever felt about their team's chances. Have ever felt, yeah, probably. Last night felt like a changing of the guard in multiple respects, not just hockey in state, which it would appear, and they've got a ton of salary cap questions to answer, but it would appear that we are potentially at the end of this Tampa Bay run.

What a glorious run. A run that built hockey in all of Florida. Tampa is a legitimate hockey town business. What a bar to set. And even in last year's Stanley Cup run, something was missing for the Florida Panthers. It was the ability to go through Tampa. Now I don't think Tampa has the same opinion of Florida

that Florida has of Tampa because Florida has always been chasing Tampa. But it felt like a changing of the guard in the state. And locally, it felt like a changing of the guard for your fan with, for your attention, for who is most championship ready. Now I have actual legitimate confidence that the Miami Heat will fix this off season

because I don't think there's ever been a season in recent memory, very recent memory where they've been told so definitively they are far away. That this isn't something that you can coach your way through, that there is a talent disparity in this conference in particular that needs to be addressed. I don't think that they've ever had the message sent to them so clearly, they will fix it.

But back to Florida, it is absolutely their time. This is the championship window. It may continue for a few years, that's the expectation. You got a lot of young talent locked up to long-term contracts, but you got Montor and you got Reinhardt and you don't have enough money to pay both of them, it would seem right now. You locked it up for some.

Thank God. No, now's the time. But now is the time. Very obviously, if you've got divided attentions, okay, and people are here for the Heat Tiers today and we will give them to you, except Jeremy has just popped up out of nowhere. He's not gonna give you the heat tears, I don't think.

Why are you here? Why are you here? It's my job. But Ethan's here. We were doing just fine, your job was being done. I don't know why you had to come in right now. You wanna celebrate the Panthers? No, it's fine, I'll go.

You wanna celebrate getting Miami's fourth string quarterback? Hey, welcome Jeremy. I would say this, Dan, that whatever we got from Jimmy Butler over the last five years is a lot more than we all expected. Worth it but we'll get back to that in a second because we will I I do I'm gonna stay here for a while today so got you know the local hour is always my favorite hour and when seminal stuff happens in this town where you're part of the

fabric of the story of the last 15 years told in sports. So that's what's happening with this Panther team, okay? A couple of years ago, that lightning team showed you that style? No, get it out of here. We were excited about it. We were excited about a high flying hockey team headed into the- But we didn't know about hockey back then. We didn't understand that you've got to-

Do it now. You've got to play like this. Well, don't play like that, play like this. That's what we know. We don't know much else. We know, don't play. Look, Tampa played like that and to play like this. Well, don't play like that, play like this. That's what we know. We don't know much else. We know, don't play. Look, Tampa play like that and we play like this.

Don't play like that. That loses to this. Okay, now we're this. No, we also know something else. That's Aussie. Now we're this and you're that. We also know something else. A couple years ago, Bob bad.

Now, that's good. Bob better. Barcov bad. Barcov line, now good. Barcov line was bad. Barcov bad. Defense was bad. Now, good defense. Barkov line was bad. Barkov bad. Defense was bad. Now, good defense.

Yeah, Barkov, while the point production wasn't there for a little bit, the defensive performances certainly were. And you can't talk about this series without acknowledging first and foremost, I think, what is it, five players in NHL history have had 100 assist seasons like Nikita Kuturov just had. And he was very frustrating if he were a Tampa team. Quiet. NHL history have had 100 assist seasons like Nikita Kutarov just had. And he was very frustrating if he were a Tampa game.

I don't know what it's like to watch Tampa hockey and have it be that quiet. He was largely erased, especially on the special teams unit that he does the most images, Power Play Maven. He was promptly erased by guys like Barkov, Stenlin when he was in PK2, Forsling was just torturing him all series long and he showed you that he's a bit of a specialty player. There's a lot of things that he can do but what he does best can be erased when the intensity goes up to a certain level and as we said yesterday, it's quantifiable. Totals go down, hits go up, block shots go up in the playoffs.

You're playing a different game. The Panthers had to find that out because of Tampa. And I'm so happy that this story has Florida doing that to Tampa because it was really missing from the last run that they had last summer. My favorite part of last night, and Roy, I want to know if you got in on this in the press box was late in the game. I think we were up like five, six, one. Na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na. You cannot get into that in the press box was late in the game. I think we were up like five, six, one. Na na na na na na na na.

You could not get into that in the press box. I did not do that. Did you hum along with it? No. A little hum? No, a little toe tap? It was so loud. Like it was the loudest I'd ever heard that song.

It felt so good. That was the moment. It just felt like we were finally having our moment with the Lightning. The barn was just top-notch last night and barn burn where in previous previous playoff matchups between these two teams You saw some blue sweaters and a fairly good amount of road representation Not at all the case in this series unless it shifted over to Tampa where you saw a lot more red jerseys Than you have in previous series series I know I've been there

The state has changed. I love journalist Chris Cody Imagining that in the press box Roy Roy Bellamy He was tapping along he was come on Roy. No, I had a smile on my face when that Tap dorky and belly essentially a break dance routine. Right. Come on, Dorky? Was Dorky singing? Uh, no, he wasn't there. He was bringing break with his kids. What?

Jesus. Casa Dwarves. Casa Dwarves and Dorky. Jesus. We were thinking of new names for that show. Yeah. Dwork Belly. I love that.

Belly Boys. Dork Belly. Dork Belly. Belly and Dorky. We found out that Roy in the hockey world is known as Belly, and everyone calls him Belly. That's a hockey thing, yeah. One person called me Belly and Dworky. We found out that Roy in the hockey world is known as Belly and everyone calls him Belly. That's a hockey thing, yeah. One person called me Belly and that's what you got from that?

Yes, that's a hockey thing. No falsehoods. You had an interview last week on Puck Boys where the guest was calling you Belly the entire interview. In the video we saw from Tampa, Dworky was calling you Belly. Belly Laughs is a good podcast name. Belly Laughs.

You guys really want me to change the name? Well, we're having trouble. We want Hockey Roy. It's called the Hockey Show. I'm gonna say it's a struggling hockey show. It's struggling? Wow. It's struggling.

It's got a spin-off. Does it mean it can't soar to great heavens? It travels. I don't necessarily think Tampa Bay Lightning Trivia was a step in the right direction. Yes, it was. That was the beginning of a soaring ascent I don't necessarily think Tampa Bay Lightning Trivia was a step in the right direction. Yes it was. That was the beginning of a soaring ascent

into whatever, you know, belly dork. The taxi into the runway. Whatever it is that it becomes. The boulin wall was a good tidbit. When you asked the name of the Panthers goalie when they made the finals in 1996 and you said he's named after a bug, what bug were you thinking of?

A hornet. What bug do you thinking of a hornet? What bug do you think I was thinking of a bee? Famously had a bee on the back of his mask. Yes. See some of us have been watching hockey We're in a ritual seven market not get your own joke. Who do we want next? Carolina or for a sarcasm. Well, it's either Toronto or boss Yeah, I'm watching here. I appreciate you guys celebrating today. You do have Boston and the Rangers A hornet? A sarcasm. Well, it's either Toronto or Boston. Close, close, Billy. Yeah. No, I'm watching here. I appreciate you guys celebrating today.

You do have Boston and the Rangers coming up. Yeah. I wasn't sure if there was a big more seeding or what. I think it's gonna be the Canes that come out of that matchup with the Rangers, but sure. But they're all great teams in the East. Right, okay, but the Rangers, Stugats, I don't know whether I'm gonna,

yeah, well, no, they're the best, right? They won the Biden's Cup. Yeah. President's trophy. President's trophy. That's cursed. Biden cups curse. Everybody knows. But Greg Cody was laughing at his son. I will tell you, Chris, that absorbing this on behalf of the audience while understanding exactly the emotion of being near the Sawgrass Mall, singing Na Na Na Na at the Tampa Bay Bay Lightning I can totally see how Cody's kid his heart soars loving sports and it feels like an emotional moment because you're knocking out that team and mean something they're worthy champions like

that that team is terrifying and that organization has made floor taught Florida Panthers what they had to do in hockey and then they trade for Kachuk and everything changes and now Kachuk is looking at Barkov and saying, he's been amazing, he wins all the face-offs, it's all the hits, all the blocks, like Barkov is out there not, I don't think there's been a hockey player who's disappointed Mike more than Barkov

over the last few years. You hate him in the playoffs. Well, Bob and Barky during the runs, it didn't end with the St. Well, no, Bob and Barkie, during the runs, it didn't end with the St. Luke Cup Finals appearance that ended at the feet of the Tampa Bay Lightning. They would go missing, they were inconsistent. Barkie, he's a tricky player to even talk about because he does a lot of things

that you really need to know hockey to realize what he does. So I'm really happy that he had that type of performance, a game-winning, shorthanded goal, and really happy that he had that type of performance, a game winning, short handed goal. And then the second goal, the bag of brace, to really show people why exactly he wears a captain seat because he's a bit of a different type of leader. It was offensively you were disappointed in. Yeah, yeah, yeah, in the series prior.

Defensively he would always do it, even though we had a much better game plan this time. Barcov has been complained about more during the post season here the last three years than any other Panther I can think Glad was like yeah, he was hurt. He's been hurt glad is always gonna be hurt and that's part of the Evaluation that you do right now But barking now that Patrice Bergeron has moved on barky is the best two-way center in that sport

You can make a solid argument for and I don't know what the award is called selkie trophy Yeah, the selkie trophy that but he should perennially be named a finalist. By the way, Bobrovsky, a finalist, yesterday was named for the Vezina. He started a little slow, but then he got stronger as the game went on. And I think it's hugely imperative for their playoff and championship chances that they get this rest now. Not just for Sam Bennett, but also it seemed as though Bobrovsky, especially in that game four, was showing you, you could use a bit of a breather down

LeBatard world were our three Stugats we're gonna get that off the world were our three colon our group chat has a pretty good feeling about this one This is the down libertar show with the stugats Greg, why were you laughing at your son's emotion? Because I can see Chris Cody finding that to be a swelling moment. And I can think the audience is listening to that and being like, Hey kiddo, first round. But I'm saying, but it's this team. It really was the crowd sensing the moment of like We finally have our moment with this team right to send them home

And we have the upper hand and Roy's been in this longer than all of us So I actually thought that he would be moved there, so maybe you don't sing along, but you are enjoying that moment I think every year outside of one Roy's always been about all the smoke when it came to Tampa because you know It's for us to get to where we need to go It needed to go through Tampa for it to feel right and we have that missing Thanos ring now Yeah, absolutely and now I'm already on the Bruins or Maple Leafs for the next round now We got to prepare for this one. Am I the only person who heard that chant as a little bit disrespectful? Hold on a second Greg. I don't understand Roy I really don't understand. Roy's on the Cincinnati. Well, Roy, I really don't understand.

Roy, your fandom is one of the strangest things I've ever seen. You give press conference at the end, I'm on to Toronto. I'm on to Boston. As if you have to focus like a coach on the next game plan, can't get too high, can't get too low. Like, what are you doing? Dan, this was the first round.

Yeah. We got a lot of hockey left, man. You've been there before. I already said that. I would like to shout out, and if you go to the Lebatard AF shop, you know that the group chat had a good feeling about this. Yeah, I tried to tell you.

We have won World Raw 3, but that was just a key battle. These are good shirts. These are, like I am sure that this will be over the arena because people, these are shirts for this time in this time in South Florida and this marshland near Sawgrass. We can sell this shirt there.

We continue to build on our original seven tradition and World War III is a huge piece of that. We told you exactly how this series was going to go. You stay out of the penalty box largely, and game four was un disastre of epic proportions, but if you stay out of that penalty box largely, you know that you're better 5 v 5. And I think you can say that for the next round as well. I think there is a talent disparity between Florida and Boston. Toronto's got a lot of talent, but there's a lot of stuff going on there and I don't think they're going to disparity between Florida and Boston. Toronto's got a lot of talent, but there's a lot of stuff going on there, and I don't

think they're going to make it through that series. The funny thing about last night was it was actually Tampa that was better five on five. They had the most opportunities, they had the most shot attempts, but the Panther special teams really carried that. The loudest cheers in the arena last night were the two goals taken off. It was amazing. The second one, the first one was clear. It was coming off, everyone kind of knew.

The second one, the arena was 50-50. The Duclair one, that one was close. If the Sorelli goal is called a goal, maybe they don't change it, but it did go to replay and they said emphatically the call was confirmed. The ref was pretty quickly there. You cannot like the rule. I'm not crazy about the rule,

I think you have to touch the goalie to interfere. Florida's had some goals pulled off the board where there's somebody in the crease and they're not actually affecting the goalie, but it's still called interference. Letter to the law, you're in that crease of your own volition and not pushed into it, that's goalie interference. Well, here's the thing, Tampa's big adjustment

in this series was net front presence, and that's what happened, it went against them in that situation, you can't be inside the house anytime little shithouse arey from Duke but John Cooper after the game is is whimpering his way into the offseason saying you can't disallow those goals that everybody should be wearing skirts the goalkeeper should be wearing classic coupe it was a bad challenge out of him the fact that he challenged it it was a move of desperation

knowing that this is the only thing that I had left. I get where he's coming from on the second goal and I understand why he challenged that. That's a big risk. He was desperate though. You lost a game 6-1, you lost a series 5-1, pretty lame. Billy, good analysis. Cheaters never prospered. That's right.

Billy, what was your take? Because here we are in the middle of this. The Marlins get swept by the Nationals. It's raining. Keeping an eye on that one. It was raining. Still early. It's still early.

Well, it wasn't too early last night. They have a dome for weather, but it was raining at Lone Depot Park. And your baseball season is over. They're the worst team in baseball, swept at home by the Nationals Blown out in every game. I say it was just 101 62 Dan, you know Yeah on pace to finish 30 and 132 but who's counting but the because I've got the perspective here of

Greg Cody's in the middle of this is that you remember what this was for him last year Going to the finals with two unprecedented runs as eight seeds at the same time. Not gonna happen this year. No, it's not. Where are you with what last night was between the two sports in terms of being a historic Miami night? They might as well not even take the flight to Boston.

They should save the money and give their travel expenses to charity. Seriously. I have that series coming back here. Yeah, I'm not doubting Coach Spoh. Hmm. No, you guys can doubt him. Yeah.

Your own peril. Go ahead. I have full faith in this man. Are you kidding me? I mean, come on. I feel so bad for Spolstra. He's giving serious minutes to Paddy Mills. Look.

He's desperate. He's got paid. My opinions on the Heat have been really on the macro level. If you listen back to the parade of gas bags, my opinions age the most gracefully. I was the one out there doubting them game by game saying that this is gonna be a sweep, they're not gonna get a game. He was the best coach in the NBA, folks.

Learn some respect. Patty Mills is on the Heat? Should give him some minutes to call Swider. He was loose. He was looking loose yesterday morning. He did try to tell him. You did have the good coaching analysis. You tried to give him a move.

Looked in his eyes and I said, that's a loose man right there. Not more Kevin Love minute. I'll analyze the Heat stuff in a second. Their offense is very limited, okay? If you have the entirety of a series to, I mean, these games in the 80s, I don't even recognize games in the 80s in the sport anymore.

And they are particularly ill-suited for referees allowing people to play a little longer so they can't have their free throw advantage. Heat fandom is largely a poison. And I submit as evidence, the victory lap, I guess you could call it that, that people were calling what had happened in Phoenix and taking a screenshot

of their bench and saying, some Heat fans wanted this. Yeah, yeah, I think it plays out differently with Spoh than Vogel and with Miami's front office and leadership than it does with Phoenix's. Are you seriously flexing when you're scoring 80 points, bro? Well, but you're going back and forth off of being being right about this heat team or not And I will analyze you know what comes next for the heat in In the next segment because I do think what's game five Yes, better get to it today. Yes, we better get to it. Jeremy has now returned to the room I'm sure he is hopeful and and still waving the heat flag I'm

guessing. I mean it's gonna be really tough. Their offense can't do anything they're they're undermanned and when you're instead of playing Terry Rozier Duncan Robinson Jimmy Butler you're getting minutes from Patty Mills Dillon Wright who's been as productive as you can expect them to be your offense is going to completely fall apart and that's what it's done what's crazy is that the heat of outscored the celtics when bamana bio is on the floor it's just the minutes where he's not there they've been outscored by forty

and it's just a disaster in that regard it's the same ran philadelphia series of them be leaves the court and the plus minus numbers are crazy like you can't leave the court uh... but i do think one of the things that happens with injury when you steam through these things, Stu Gatz, I mean the Duncan Robinson was a really useful player for them all year when they look to be good at offense and physically he's not right, Rozier's not right, they traded for him because Hiro wasn't right, Jimmy Butler's not right, all of that stuff is a bunch of entry who are but it

wasn't but um... you know two months ago that i would have said the heat at their healthiest best had a chance against boston in this series but this team does not have a chance against boston in this series there's no coming back three games there's no i don't think they're gonna win in Boston either, but the offense cannot do anything if you haven't, like I said at the beginning of the series, Boston's better at defense than Miami's at offense,

and Miami is better at, and Miami's better at nothing! Miami's better at nothing, they made 23 threes! Yeah. Yeah. The shame of it is their defense has been good enough to hold Boston to about 100 points, but they're scoring 80 and that's never going to cut it. Greg?

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