The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Vegas, We're Coming For You

Episode Date: February 8, 2024

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Were you guys moved? We didn't talk about this the other day right after the Grammys because the Killer Mike thing was something that was more pop culture type candy and I missed what was, I thought, a genuinely moving moment during a time. I think we can all agree awards ceremony shows, silly, that they're not as relevant as they used to be. They're not America gathering around the television to celebrate all silliness. Really? I would think that award shows are like one of the last bastions of community viewing

along with live sports. And perhaps there they are somewhere. They haven't died smaller, quite like everything else, but they're still vital for moments like these. When will Smith slaps Chris Rock? Yes. And Tracy Chapman performs for the first time in many years and introduces a new generation to an artist who hasn't performed very much, singing an impossibly sad song so well and produced well by television because the reveal is on her hands and her up face very slow with the light and you realize by the chords she's announced

herself and people recognize a tune that they associate with a time with a woman with an icon and then the music hits and you are seeing in the performance recreated for a new generation by a modern artist the genuine awe that he has performing next to Tracy Chappan because he knows the credentials of what's next to him, the pain of that song, who made it great, why it's great, and he knows he's a borrower and he can't believe that he gets to perform this with her because it's an honor because she makes music that makes you cry and made a whole bunch of people cry Monday and they didn't even know why they were crying. Luke Combs covered the song Fast Car earlier this year, which is why it was

performed at the Grammys with Tracy Chapman. And he has spoken about how much honor he felt in being able to cover the song to begin with, because it then became a number one hit on country radio now without so many people from previous, you know, or rather so many young people who don't know it from previous generations. And so to be able to have this moment with her, you can see the look on his face in the background as she's singing. There's a couple of still shots that are circling on social media where the awe that he has for this human being and the audience didn't react like that to anybody for the rest of the night.

You and I can be pretty cynical. I was genuinely surprised that I got moved by a moment as cynical as I am during an award show and it was just because it was it it's just looking at it and then hearing the music hit me in the chest realizing realizing who she is and remembering Like the pain in that song that's nostalgia though, right? That's the nostalgia If you remembering 1993 hearing that song for the first or whenever it came out. Well feeling it more than hearing it But it's also Analog right like there's an analog aspect to that performance the guitar Tracy Chapman herself

Right? Like there's an analog aspect to that performance. The guitar, Tracy Chapman herself. The premise of the song is about an earlier time. And so there was the juxtaposition of, this is a viral moment that is about an antiviral concept. And that, I think, hit people somewhere inside of them that had been sort of like, spled over by just like the online world we live in. It felt nice to be reminded of how things used to feel. Just how music can move you, can move people no matter what their difference is. Also just people discovering that there was a source material to this. That's something that, that's of a bygone era,

almost pre-internet. You hear a P. Diddy and the Family song, you're like, wow, this is such a great beat. And then as you get older, because the internet wasn't exactly around when you first experienced it, you realize it samples. And you go back into time and you realize,

wow, the BC boys, all they did was sample these songs and make a better song out of an original source material. Stuff that I had no idea about going back and listening to some Daft Punk samples, some Kanye samples. That's kind of what people are experiencing with Tracy Chapman and that she's also been away from the public eye for so long. That's the other analog aspect of it, right? Is that someone like that who has stardom at that age so young is then fed into this attention economy. And we know her, we've been seeing too much of her.

And the withholding of her until this moment that was not promoted with any advance warning is part of that analog surprise. And she hasn't been on tour since 2009. It's not, she's not doing things like these publicly. And so, but it was also the presentation of some of these things I remember one of the most moving bits of television I've ever seen is stairway to heaven performed by heart and I and a church choir that just blows the nipples off of Led Zeppin

Let's yeah, and they're watching it But so the so the music of it is obviously beautiful But the televised production was also beautiful and tracy chapman the way that was unveiled as a surprise where it's first her hands and then what it's the cords that are introducing her it's the way her hands are lit and then you don't see her face immediately either and then when you do

she's smiling like she's she's smiling and it's a huge moment for her that should be pressurized. No, I'm going to sing this sad song in front of everybody. And I'm going to move them. I know I'm going to slight callbacks to how she was initially introduced because she was born out of this music video era. And if you remember fast cars music video, they did as much as they could to disguise her appearance. So a little bit of a call back there, but then you go back and you see, oh, she's beaming.

She's happy now. And you contrast that with how the record label decided to introduce her. She's beaming because, oh my God. She got that money. Asscap just went through the roof. Oh my God. All these white people are rediscovering this song.

And this time, they've got an actual white person singing it. And they just loving it. And I'm getting paid, I'm getting rich. And good for her. We should say Tracy Chapman is a black woman. Yes. And so part of the other thing that made people feel nice in ways that are both superficial and also very deep

is that she represented this thing that communally, people who ostensibly disagree on things are not the same, like gathered around. And it was like, oh, the country people love this. But also like, there's a post-racial aspect, weirdly, even though this happened 30 years ago that we're just reviving now. The post-racial aspect is Luke Combs,

is his name? Luke Combs. Luke Combs actually saying, hey, I got this song from this black person over here as opposed to the Elvis. Like, hey, thank you very much. And give me all that money. I like... The original crime. I like

when masses discover something there was people might have missed it when they were doing the in memoriam tribute. Rodriguez got thrown up on the screen and some people may not be familiar with the story. If you're not, check out the, uh, the documentary searching for sugar man because there was this music artist that was immense, unbeknownst to him, abroad in Africa, just huge, biggest recording artist in that country and because much of it happened pre-internet, he went his entire life being forgotten until he goes back to Africa and has his heroes welcome.

I was actually informed of something that is going on in St. Lucia, where it's one of the last bastions of outlaw country. That outlaw country is huge. What is outlaw country? Like the old Willie Nelson type of renegade country, not pop country, real sad, depressing, lonesome music is immense in St. Lucia.

Always on my mind. That's outlaw country. Outlaw country makes it sound like it's, Pressing lonesome music is immense That's like that's outlaw country outlaw country makes it sound like it's hey the hell with you taking the country back Yeah, we go Small town Country not you were always on my mind Well Terry, you know Terry Bradshaw has a country album, right? Or he and and what I think one of the songs in the country album is the last word in Lonesome is me. That's a four.

Terry Bradshaw does this? That's a quarterfix country song, that's awesome. Yes, I think that's a song. Well, Terry Bradshaw has gone on a tour talking about depression. Is that what you, you think outlaw country is just sad? It's not renegade. It's just, no, I'm the opposite. I'm saying how is outlaw country not renegade music, outlaw country.

I'm outlaw country and I'm sad in my feelings all the time. But that's right there. So that is, I mean, Terry Bradshaw was in is sad and in his feelings all his time, all the time, and is considered one of the most honest iconic Man, we talk about these quarterbacks playing games between Romo and Akeman and Brady to compete Bradshaw beat them all Bradshaw has been on television at the center of that shit for for 30 years He ain't making no 350 mil though. He also did not write the song for what it's worth It was by Roger Miller in 1965. Get out of here, you fraud trying to take, oh.

Get out of your nerd. Oh no. This is a fast car moment. Get his loneliness out of here. All right. I want, when you say get out of here, nerd, can you explain to me? I really, I regret not getting to this story earlier this week because Diana Rossini from the athletic. The description of outlaw country is fiercely independent. The outlaws abandoned lush orchestration, stripped the music to its country core and added rock sensibility to the sound video.

Go ahead and put up on the screen. Please. Terry Bradshaw's, uh, uh, let me see the album. Yes. The album cover. Go ahead and put it on the screen because that didn't feel like outlawed. It felt like a lot of sad song. I'm so lonesome.

I could cry. Absence. okay so far I'm very worried about what Terry's about to do a world I can't live in four walls the last word and lonesome is me which is a bar but it's not his less and less because my baby back again okay burning bridges up that didn't turn out. And then on a downslope there. Yeah. Like it's a little optimism in both, on both sides, right? Side A is like making plans inside B is like, I'm gonna let me back again. And then afterwards a world I can't live in.

Can I celebrate for a moment the career Terry Bradshaw's hand? Seriously. I didn't know about that album at all. I didn't know about the tour. How about that? He tours doing music, like music. He tours doing music and singing about depression. And he did a documentary about it.

And he's one of the lead voices on television around quarterback voices in the last 30 years. Did he make 350 mil? I don't know how much he made. But just for inflation. It did not. So you think he's deeply underpaid at Fox? Probably, right? They've been the number one pre-game show and halftime show for 30 straight years, so probably.

There's actually another song in Terry's album, Take These Chains From My Heart. It was hit by our lower third on the video. Oh, Take These Chains From My Heart. His cover of I'm So Lone So Mic'd Cry reached the top 20 on the Billboard's country chart in 1976. So he also only took the song 10 years later, which isn't so bad. That's actually less distance than Luke Combs to Tracy Chapman, the Bicentennial. You guys don't want to marvel at Terry Bradshaw's career with me. That's sure. I saw his ass in failure to launch. That was nice.

That's true. That's the one. He gave him an option of socks and he said, give me the medium. That's right. That's a, that story is too long to tell here, but you guys don't want to celebrate Terry Bradshaw with me during Superbowl week. I mean, I guess he was Brady before Brady. He won five Superbowls. He won five. He won five. What do you mean? He wasn't Brady before. Have you seen his stats? He like, he won five. What do you mean he wasn't Brady before? Have you seen his stats? He like, does three times a game. He won five Super Bowls. Now those teams never had any free agents. They all just came back the next year and kicked your ass again.

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Foyver prohibited, see DraftKings.com for details. Real quick, without getting into a meandering conversation about why it is we're going to Las Vegas and many of us are already there and all of us will be by the end of the week. What I wish to explain to the audience in the event it escaped your attention is that this is the last week of Mike's career as our executive producer, and we are going out with a bang with...

Is that the dread that he's been feeling? I don't know. I don't know. He has been feeling a dread all week, and I imagine there's been some dread around company building at every turn. And here as a last act is his punctuation as executive producer. Let's throw two live events in the entertainment capital of the United States during the Super Bowl. Let's see if we can draw a crowd. There are going to be a lot of people there. Can we make a big noise? It will either be a spectacular

success or a spectacular failure. He's worried about the age of his hosts because Pablo, I just saw him in the studio a second ago. He fell to his knees. This is his last week on the job. He shouldn't care anymore. He fell to his knees, screaming at a television set because the microphone is too close to Stugatz's face in radio row and he's talking to the microphone in the way that f***s up the audio, and there's no one there to help him except Billy who's

sitting right next to him with another microphone that's too close to his face as well. And so Mike Ryan, his last week on the job, is not being able to control the sound from Vegas, where his aging radio host, Billy Gill included, don't know where to put a microphone, where the kids are putting the microphones these days. So Mike's going a bit crazy. We're, uh, we're broadcasting from stadium swim at circa and there were a lot of concerns. There's wind. It's cold out there. It's going to be breezy. There's noise pollution. So even though my hosts are very comfortable with desktop mics, we decided we're going to go with headphones and just outlined. look, I understand your concerns about the wind, but my host is at an age now

where occasionally a guttural noise will come out of his body. It is unavoidable. And the only way to mitigate that is by the host pulling himself away from the microphone at the table. And two guys is just generally disgusting. So I'd like the, the ability to pull ourselves away from the microphone. You can't do that if this is not the punctuation you wanted. The punctuation you wanted was I've made a musical. Good night, everybody. I'm going to leave here. I was the original plan and then when he f***ed it all up, I don't resent the kid. He chased his dreams. He's killing it. That's amazing for him. Screwed me. You had the perfect, he did. He really did. Well, that screwed me You had the perfect he did he really did well

That's he had the perfect protege groomed from 14 years old to be a weird robot that will serve the company's needs That's not and then he ran off to chase his own dreams Asshole asshole. Yeah, I am happy for him, but it's okay. It took a minute to get there Well, you're still not happy for him because this week is filled with dread for you. And I ask you guys, I ask you guys, I don't think it's all professional, the dread. It might be the flight. I mean, I should change after my flight. I'd hit by lightning that one time. Oh, I forgot about that. Dude,

I wish I had been on that flight. When everyone's like, it's okay. We don't go out like this because you're opposite. Turbulence has gotten a lot worse as the planet's heating up. Yeah. There's a correlation between turbulence, clean air turbulence and global warming. Dog, I'm calling bullshit on that one. Look it up.

I mean, that's not bullshit. I said, no, but I said this in front of Mike recently and he looked at me like I'm a horror monger But no there the one of the effects of climate change in the future will be that planes will have more difficulty flying And I've had so much turbulence since finding out the revelation. I mean, it doesn't matter how the distance It doesn't matter like I'm just doomed to get bad turbulence. I was flying back from Europe one time and I was on a plane where everybody's head hit the ceilings. It was just really scary, even though my daughter got a crazy kick out of it. And I'm a little scared of flying now because of it.

I fully believe in climate change. Let me make that clear. But I would say that we could add up everybody's flight time over the last 12 months here, the six people here versus me, and I might be double what you guys have logged. There ain't no way in hell turbulence is a lot worse now or whatever. That's just not, I mean, there's all sorts of articles that support this. This is not a, not just like some, he's got the credentials. I'm like, he's telling you, telling you, telling you I turbulence was never much of an issue, but you're talking about nerds of the computer He's talking about what he's done hand in the dirt hand in the dirt hand in the dirt plane in the sky Yeah, lightning hitting planes. I'm telling you it's been bad. I mean slept through that

There's like five lightning strikes on a plane. So probably probably I probably missed it Maybe did happen. I wish I was awake flight flight patterns being changed is where your line is on Believe in the climate change is going to start a quick goal with it's gonna make new remodels Yeah, you learn your stuff from Google. I learned my stuff from experience. I'm out there me and the pilots and the flight in those skies in the sky Letting everybody know hey, you know what? Climate change, bad, really happening. Also, turbulence, turbulence, turbulence, the show, my, my career, the general election, all of this stuff. It's just all coming to a head and it's left me feeling dread.

This is me, no, hasn't come to you from the wing. This is not the way to go into a party fueled by alcohol and music in Vegas. It's just, I'm not going to be on that much alcohol. Tony, his, but I am Tony. He's okay. It would have been a good time for that guitar right there. I am. And then Roy appears with thank you. That doesn't help anybody. You fueling liquor on Mike's dread and Him looking at me and being like you gonna rescue us old guy Who doesn't know how to hold the microphone correctly in the wind because it's gonna be 18 mile an hour winds And I'm just gonna get blown off the stage

Mike but it's gonna be too cold. It's gonna be too cold. How cold is it? right now If you look at the low the day that we're out there, it's a low of 37, but a high in the fifties. And so I think around that, no, but you guys won't be, you guys won't be out there when it's 30 something. That's in the middle. No, but we will be on a rooftop. So the, the wind is a factor. It will be chilly. It will be windy, but it's not going to be 30.

But it's also, I've been to stadium swing during the winter. I saw Skyler Thompson start a postseason game It was very cold heat lamps everywhere. They're prepared. Yeah, man circa. I love pants on the beach I love wearing a light jacket 50 degrees. I live in New York. That's spring Oh, but I forgive me on on being an amateur here I thought 50 degrees it matters if it's five mile an hour winds or 20 mile an hour winds that all of a sudden you get. And if those winds are whipping off to Sierra Nevada? Like in the desert on a little pier.

Which is also why I'm worried about the turbulence because flying into Vegas is always a turbulent experience because of the. I mean, surely you would agree with that, right? Because I've experienced that many times, flying just California to Vegas. That is more turbulent because how mountainous the regions are. But isn't turbulence also just like the topography of the road, so to speak, that the plane is driving on? Like turbulence isn't actually the thing that- But now there's clean air turbulence. ...fells planes. Because of global warming, where there's just no way to know.

I'll tell you how to know. Get on a plane with me twice a week every week for the last year. Then you'll know. I understand your bravado, but you haven't been there where the turbulence hits that house. My thing on a plane is when it gets super turbulent, I'm like, is this unusual turbulence? All I do is try to lock eyes with the flight attendant and see how they're reacting. If they're afraid, I'm afraid. If they're just like zoned out, I'm not worried. Well, I'm a veteran of the turbulence game. And yes, I look at the flight attendants and much to my chagrin, they're also nervous about it.

Thank you. Pain thresholds for air turbulence. I would imagine that the flight attendants are more, they've got a higher threshold than anybody. If they're scared, you need to be scared. You know how I reassure myself is I'm constantly googling, even though I know the answer, no plane has crashed because of turbulence,

which I don't believe for a second. I was literally just about to bring that up. No plane has ever crashed because of turbulence ever ever So so here you go. It goes pilots. We talk about that being able to Not worry or whatever right number one is pilots number two the flight attendants number three Amino Hassan Really Really? Yes. That's who you look.

That means trying to project confidence for all of these yellow drabomins. I believe that your confidence is real and bulletproof. You're Dan Levitar. You're sitting in your seat. There's a lot of turbulence. Oh my God, this doesn't feel real. You looked, oh, I can't see the pilot. The door is closed.

What about the fight? She's around the corner. I can't really see. Where's the mean? He's right there. He's cool. If something tragic were to happen to us on our flight to Las Vegas man this audio is going to be dissected for years of course you know and you know what they're gonna say I mean offered to be on the fight to make you guys feel better

and Mike dismissed him with all the bravado of someone who just learned everything from Google University, the College of YouTube, as opposed to listening to me. Well, I came from the school of hard knocks. This does make Amin also the worst person to consult when there's turbulence because Amin firmly believes he cannot die on an airplane. And so as the plane is descending about to crash into the earth, Amin is saying to himself, I dream something different. No, I'm sorry to like introduce this to your guys. It's the last thing that you want to hear before

you board a flight. That one guy scared to death. That's not the one. Well, this port, this portending feeling of doom that you speak of, what Amin is saying here, and forgive me because you say you come from the school of hard knocks or hard flights. Are you talking about, is there a difference between other flights in your life before American flights like because I know when I I have flown on small planes in in Africa and I've been very scared I've been in little planes puddle jumpers I've been in the wide body I've been in every type of plane other than the Concorde that's that was my dream never

got to do it But you know what I hear they're bringing it back when they do guess who's flying Me no you're saying you're the bravest traveler you should have given him the guitar there He was looking for the guitar Roy. He was looking you for the guitar. Oh, you've got to bring the guitar sound I'm looking at Roy. I was looking at someone in the back I was looking at Lewis Lewis is like oh look at the camera. I'm like, OK, here we go. And I looked at the camera. Yes.

I am. I'm not the one playing it. No, but your timing was terrible on that. Like, my timing? Or Lewis' timing, as I stared at a camera, and there was just silence. OK, but you and Lewis are doing a joke that you're only telling that you and Lewis were doing

a joke there with the music. And nobody told us Lewis was playing and so they just got played whenever Lewis wanted because Mike's in control of the music, not Lewis. No, I've seen it, though. No. Yes. No, it's not Lewis.

See, I'm telling you. This is what it's going to be like, Dan. Really loosening the reins is that last week's EP. Mike's doing like a garage sale. Like my man, but what's his name? Coach, but Grant. And just like, Hey, who wants this? I can't tell you how heartbreaking it is to me that Mike has a feeling of dread before all of this, which is meant to be a company party. A company, a company party that David Samson is not invited to. The best kind of company party. I mean, if you want to call the biggest broadcast of our professional lives,

given our current standing in the industry, party go up, go right ahead. The Dan LeBertard Show with Stugots is brought to you by Bear Aspirant, the official sponsor of Fans Hearts. Dan Lebatard! Oh, I think Larry Fitzgerald's on the green right there. Stugatz! That's Alfonso Ribeiro.

How do you think that Larry Fitzgerald is a son? To be fair, Alfonso Ribeiro has a great ass. This is the Dan Lebatard Show with the Stugatz. That's a son, that's a son. To be fair, to be fair, Alfonso Ribeiro has a great ass. This is the Dan Lebatar show with the Stugats. I just caught somebody in racism, you know what I mean? Yes. Yeah, he caught somebody in racism. It's golf related.

There's this course that I've been wanting to play at for a while and we're trying to get a big golf group trip going. And we have someone in charge of it. His name is Santiago chief. And so, and so he put in an email and we're just a couple of weeks removed from getting all the avails that we wanted. And the weekend that we were looking for was booked up. Okay, let's pivot to another weekend. That weekend is booked up.

Huh, interesting. I know this place is in demand. All right, gee, a man, just ask them. Tell you what, tell us when you're open and we'll make it work for that weekend. The response was we're booked up from January 1, 2024 to December 31, 2024. Okay, all right. Cool. Hey, my buddy, Steph, do me a favor. Change your name and call on the phone and put on a very gringo voice and see

what comes back. So a Mike Ryan exclusive investigation. You're sending a friend of yours as private detective to sniff out racism. It didn't check out and also I've had this long theory for a famous golf major that I never win the raffle to because I put my real name. This is a sordid history with this golf major that I never win the raffle to because I put my real name. This is a sordid history with this golf major and I've long since believed that me submitting my name is held against me when they do this raffle. I have no way of proving it other than none of my other Latino friends have ever gone to this. But white names, no issue. So, my friend does the voice, calls the same exact rep.

What was the name he used? Hunter. Jason. Oh, Jason. Use Jason. That's a good one. Hunter's a good one. It's my brother's name.

Tons of avails. Wow. Tons of avails. Did you know that golf has some racist elements to it? No. Not until this exclusive investigation brought to you by Mike and the glee with which you came out, you should come out with that guitar.

I just caught one in racism and then done, and have it have a musical flair so we can have some fun with you catching people in racism. I'm telling you, there was, how is there not something to that? Santiago Chi, you're like racist against Asians and Hispanics. I was gonna say... Is he Peruvian? This is why I make my Uber name Paul.

Really? Yeah. Wow. It's a type of casual racism that I think people run into in certain aspects of life. Pablo's worried about Hispanic racism Aren't you by name? I mean all racism concerns me, Dan Well, but in this particular case in New York mostly being confused for one of you Well, wait a minute. Are we I mean, but but we all have I I mean, we all have Latin names that were made English by our parents. I was supposed to be Gonzalo or Luis.

I think Mike was Miguel. I don't know. I was born Michael Ryan Ruiz because of my, my dad was born Miguel and you know, to help. It was a different time. But Billy is Billy because Guillermo is, is, is a disguise. I'm Mike Ryan professionally and have only recently reintroduced my last name into the fold because of racism I felt in the industry. Yeah.

These are whimpering little racist places. That's a great Lewis, I don't mean to tell you when to do your job, but racism in the industry is a great place for a guitar riff. Thanks. We can't get the timing right between video and the guitar and the music and a mean and societal point. I'll never forget the look that my program director

gave me when he was looking at a pay sub and he saw my real last name. Yes I love this. I never said, never announced that it's racism just implied and then the guitar riff brings it home. Yeah, I mean I told you why I did that because it goes back to my acting roots and this is further into the 90s where I didn't really speak Spanish, I understand Spanish, but my name as a professional actor slash model was my real name,

Michael Ryan Ruiz, and I could only get Spanish language work, despite not knowing Spanish. I didn't get offered any English speaking roles. I wasn't offered the opportunity to even audition for these things. So I told myself after I got out of that game, in the next professional setting that I'm in, I'm gonna go by Mike Ryan professionally

because my last name, I just came from a place where it was held against me. And I'm really proud of the work that shows like this did because it's we have the Dan LeBitar show even though that name is not overly Hispanic you are overly Hispanic in presentation and no he's not. I mean he's vibrant Miami. But no I'm not him the show is the show it looks the way it does because it's trying to compensate The fact that then doesn't present a space You had

That's what that's why his dad was on it didn't believe that what this supposed to be a diverse show It's another white guy. That's right bring bring his dad believe that what this supposed to be a diverse show. It's another white guy. That's right. Bring, bring his dad. I'm proud of our show's track record. And I do think our show made it easier. Hold on. Yes. Exploited my father for the accent. Yes. That's, yes. That's what we did. They under index with Latinos. Yeah. Have to get the cartoonish Spanish accent and make a mockery of our language for the paycheck. I'd never sell out. Jeremy just whispered. It's like me.

Well, Jeremy. Oh, Lewis. Jeremy, Lewis timing a little bit off. Jeremy, help me with this because I believe that for all of the conversations we've had around here serious and otherwise this week of Mike Ryan's last week as executive producer, Whittingham got farted out the side door to his dream job. Jeremy step into the place and here, edit a million things and write songs and get good at it very fast. Your voice has been neglected around here as I believe that we have everyone here

less Taylor Swift actual knowledge combined than you do by yourself. You are an untapped authority here and have been for weeks. We've been talking about Taylor Swift and Kelsey and you have more connections to all of this. You love this music, you love this story, you love all of it, and we haven't given you any time

to be the nation's foremost sports expert on this one subject in your wheelhouse. We have denied you the opening to do your job well. Yeah, similar to Bruce Springsteen with older sports writers, Taylor Swift really exists amongst this generation of sports media in a way that is making me not the only authority. You got Gojo, you got plenty of other people,

but around this show, I agree with you. I mean, all of you combined in terms of- Well, what if we miss then? Then get us downloaded as quickly as you can on all the things that you cover better than others because you know the subject matter better than the rest of us. What I would say that's most important that's happened this week is that now there's a new album coming for Taylor Swift,

the Tortured Poets Department. And this is potentially a slight at her ex Joe Alwyn who had a group chat with some other fellow actors, I believe called the Tortured Man Club, so people are really rolling with that. And this is coming out on April 19th, but what Taylor Swift did that was genius going into the Grammys, is she turned her Midnight's profile picture black and white. Now why did she do that, Dan? Everyone thought it was because reputation, Taylor's version, was going to be announced at the Grammys, but then she surprised everyone by announcing not a redo of an old album that would be coming out now as Taylor's version, but a brand new album to take down her ex

announced the same week as she's going to be going to the Super Bowl for her new beau, Travis Kelsey. I mean it is, so she always wins. She always wins. Taylor Swift always wins. The marketing behind her and everything that she does, it's really the best business we have going where every single move takes her entire fan base looking for Easter eggs and clues and yet still she seems to be out doing them.

It really is an amazing case study which is why so many different universities now have classes on her. I am fascinated by it because anytime someone talks about Taylor Swift the way that Jeremy did, and this is, you can project this out throughout her fan base, it's in the minutiae, it has such a culty aspect to it. I'm not unfamiliar with Taylor Swift. I've heard every single one of her albums. She's been around since 2006. And yet, there is such a mystique about her,

a cult of personality about her, that is birthed this entire unique subculture, that I'm being informed of something new about someone that has been under a microscope for close to 20 years. Taylor Swift is who LeBron thinks he is. That's exactly right. Like little clues, prodigious, constantly working behind the scenes, up to stuff, businessman, business, tycoon, cringy millennial, and

yeah, absolutely cringy millennial. Subtlety, passive aggressiveness. Constantly making fun of her exes without explicitly saying it aloud. Taylor Swift is also, LeBron has graduated to dad status though within this pop culture realm, right? Taylor Swift is cooler at this point than LeBron, correct? Like just with young people? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Even I, it pains me to say that, but yes. Well, and the thing with Taylor Swift and the reason it gets so culty is because at the very beginning of her career was sort of the beginning of Instagram and the Tumblr era and she was on social media legitimately interacting with her fans one on one getting into Instagram comments before it became

Everything that social media is now which is why they gain this insane Connection to her where they feel like not only is she writing about the type of experiences that we go through, but also she's interacting with us and making us feel like she's our friend and that part of it, there hasn't really been another artist in the social media era to be able to actually connect with their fans this way.

Kevin Durant. to be able to actually connect with their fans this way. Kevin Durant. Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr time properly with your jokes to support you that it only undercuts you. By the way, I do get how the Taylor Swift stuff is off-putting. I understand it. Because it's everyone is being treated like, oh, you boomer, you don't know about this. I'm like, I don't. She's been around forever. How do I not know about Taylor? And then someone proves to me how little I actually know about Taylor Swift. So to be made to feel like that, I can understand how someone is knocking over

their French dip because Taylor Swift's on the TV for 23 seconds. It's because you're being made to feel stupid in a way. You mean you don't know that she unfollowed Joe Allen on April 19th of last year, which is why she's possibly releasing the album on April 19th of this year, Mike? Brother, I have no idea who Joe Allen is

Alwin Joe Alwin What? Her ex boyfriend It's her ex boyfriend I've been trying to figure out what the thing is Joe Alwin Alwin

Joe Alwin Al WYN You're showing your age you're all showing your age Joe Alwin Who's Joe Alwin? I don't know who he is either but it's not because I have any fluency in this language Joe Alwin? I don't know who he is either, but it's not because I have any fluency in this language. Joe, I want one.

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This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats! Juju has a way of cutting through shit. Juju has said some things to me that have been revelatory because he is perpetually speaking the truth, no matter whether it hurts you or not. And one of the things that he said is that he thought that we sounded unspeakably lame, and I think he was directing it at you and me Pablo, specifically. That checks out. For getting on our high horse.

I mean, do you know what this is about? No, unspeakably lame though is a hilarious term. Well, here, look. Turns out it wasn't quite so unspeakable for old Juju Gadi in this case. Well, but Juju Gadi had criticism in general of how out of touch you and I were and are sounding like scolds, like scolds, journalistic scolds by telling Cameron, the, it is what

it is podcast for telling them that they shouldn't be platforming OJ Simpson for feeling like it's not the right thing to do to normal. I don't think anyone actually. So this is what happened. I said that it is what it is, is my guiltiest pleasure. I click on every video they post, I find myself laughing, that's all true. At the same time, Dan, it just feels obvious to me

that if you remember who OJ Simpson is, there would be a pang of conundrum, a conflict about whether this should be happening so easily and freely and comically. And I say that as someone who has many questions about what OJ's life is like now. And I guess for Juju, this is not a thing that he spends a second of time being conflicted about.

I don't think, first of all, I don't think OJ can be platformed. I don't think anyone's like, yeah, you know what, you're good. Or what did he do? He seems like a lovely old man. Everyone knows OJ story. And the whole bit is that the, this show that is a rebellious show, this is a show the operates outside the purview of mainstream america's like how outlaw are you real outlaw not like that bulls it outlaw country should you guys talk about the other time so outlawed that we're going to take the most radioactive man

still to this day in america and put them on and ask them about football which is what they usually do and then the last episode, they asked him something that was not football that made me go far. Okay, and made me laugh the same way. I mean, because it's television, it's great.

And also, I felt immediately guilt about laughing that way. How often does that one ever get you? Or do you just laugh? Because I felt guilt about what I was laughing at? Yeah, Borat for real now Let me at least that's what I'm supposed to say Let me see my wife. Let me see

Let me see from it is what it is. I'll put the voice shut up. The thing, the thing that made us laugh, even though it shouldn't have made us laugh, but it did. I said men shouldn't open up to women cause they'll use it against them. He said, whenever something go down, they're going to throw it back in your face. Do y'all agree?

OJ first. OJ first. When you say open up the women, I don't know what he's talking about. Confession. I can't take you right. Don't say nothing. It was your line eyes. Yeah. So leave me out of this. Yeah. Oh, no confession. Yeah.

No. Yeah. No, you got to leave me out of this. He's the only ever say that. Yeah, I'm gonna say that. Yeah. Yeah. No confession. I feel immediate remorse laughing at that.

That's real. Oh my God. This is what's funny about it, right? What's funny is oj answered the question sincerely about the question the setup with his kind of cut off at the beginning is that shackle in his podcast says don't open up to women because they'll use it against you

stab baby does an amazing job of saying you first or you can tell look in her eyes she's like i'm going right at oj for this oj answers the question sincerely like, yeah, and don't say, you never confess anything to a woman like, oh yeah, I was out with the pillows or whatever. That's why he's answering it. Cam and Mace are dying laughing because he said no confession and they know exactly what they're laughing at.

And you could tell OJ's face like, oh crap. I just stepped in doo doo just like, you don't think he did that on purpose. I thought he did that on purpose. I took that. I thought that he did. He said, What did he delivered? You're, are you talking about confessing? I thought he caught it then. I mean, I thought that his emphasis on confess was trying to be funny about, like this is the part that's conflicting. Well, you know, that man that that man gutted two people with a knife.

Well, he didn't gut. That's inaccurate. He allegedly took a knife to one of their throats, very severely to the point of near decapitation. And you would see my discomfort? Yeah, I watch that. I'm like, that's their place. Like that's cool.

That's fine. I see the value in it. It's certainly shocking and greatest artists of our time. Sometimes just do things just to shock you to disarm you. It's not, it's not for us. I'm not jealous of it. It's just not a point that I'm ever willing to cross. There's comedy in the idea of OJ Simpson is being invited onto the sports show and ends up being OJ in ways that the hosts were not prepared for. That to me is intrinsically comedic. The comedy is limited by a general sense that I have, this again conundrum in the back of my head, that to live in a society of laws and rules and norms

means that I shouldn't laugh when the same guy who's saying the thing that he shouldn't be saying is the guy who we all believe literally killed people. That's- Let me ask you guys this as we break down and get into it. Are we laughing with him or are we laughing at him? I'm laughing at him. Oh man.

Okay, this is a great distinction, but at the same time when Dan is pointing out and we were trying to divine the intent, he's also the guy who wrote the book, If I Did It. And the question applies there too. Is this something that he's doing to troll people or is he doing this because? I go back and, and I don't know if we have time to replay it, but you can tell the moment he realizes what he said. Because what he did was that you don't compare anything.

What he was doing there is he was in the old man, never. The thing that like not to make the comparisons, but when your father says, not to make the comparisons, but when your father says, hey, I gamble my money, I give the money to my mistress, your dad doesn't really have a mistress, but it's a thing that old men like to do to be funny, like, oh, look at me. You don't think that he was purposefully using the verb confess there?

Play it again, play it again. I'll tell you what, I'll tell you why. And I'll tell you what. And I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why, because you can see the moment he realizes how they're taking it, and he says, don't bring that me into that is what he says. But play it again, please.

I said, men shouldn't open up women because they'll use it against them. He said, whenever something go down, they're going to throw it back in your face. Do y'all agree? OJ first. OJ first. When you say open up the women, I don't know what he's talking about Confess No, no keep playing keep playing keep playing or pause it there so

No, no, no, no first of all these it does not fit You guys got to let it run because the part when he does like that, when he does that confession thing, he's doing the old bad. You mean like, Tarlan or like, you cheated on her? That's what he's doing. Now let it run. I was like, he's crazy.

Let it run. No, man, don't joke in front of us. So he's laughing about what he thinks he made a joke. I think he's right. Don't say nothing. He's joking. what he thinks he made a joke. I think he made it. Don't say nothing. Oh, yeah. He was yours. Look at it.

So they start laughing with the lion eyes. He's talking about like talking to a woman. He had to make a confession. Cute. Watch, watch, watch, watch, watch. He's back. Yeah. No.

No. Yeah. No, he got to leave me out of this. You got to leave me out of this one as he shakes his head. That's the moment when he sees their reaction. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, yeah, you know, like never tell the women that, you know, which are lying eyes that I have been cheating on her. The thing about being a person who is tempted to scold and I don't want to

scold, right? Like, none of us enjoy that. Who's golden? Well, I feel like there's a wide lane to say murder, not my favorite. Right. And, and, and, but this is the thing, Mike, is that you need someone to say that. And it's sort of like, do I have to be the guy? That's the exercise that I do. I want to enjoy this like everybody else. Yeah, do I have to, am I gonna have to be the person

who's like, by the way, I watched this documentary about O.J. Simpson and Ezra Edelman showed the murder photos and I haven't forgotten those. And it's just like, at the same time, what's the statute of limitations on something? Is there someone in America right now who says, oh, Jay Simpson, hi, that guy's great on, it is what it is.

And it's like, was he famous for anything else? Yeah, a bunch of people. Really? The people that are just discovering Tracy Chapman? Like the people that are just discovering oh, Jay Simpson, what? He did what? I kind of feel like, oh, Jay's up there with,

with like, you know, what's my man that shot Lincoln? It was more than 20 years ago. A generation wasn't, no, it's not, a generation can be removed from OJ Simpson. Stop by Murders. Should we invite a John Wilkes Booth impersonator as a guest onto the Dan LeBatard show to talk sports takes?

Hello Twitter world, it's me, John Wilkes Booth. The OJ clips, the OJ clips are kind of like where I felt like, oh, I might be a nihilist now because I see them. I'm like, that's for other people, not for me, whatever. I'll move on. I don't feel that passionately about it. You feel like you've just been, I think Mike has felt numbed by the last 10 years in America, just slapped across the face by raising a child in this America. How about that?

What is for me anymore? Okay, just nihilist defeated. Yeah, I'm passionate about a couple things I'm gonna my daughter's love my family of my Keynes love your wife It's not it's not allowed anymore It doesn't hold up It doesn't hold up. It doesn't hold up. Where do you put Magnet? What did you say? Babra-boos. In my country.

Babra-boos. To eat. Come on, that was funny. My roommate in college was from Kazakhstan. Oh. This is prime Boreto. You had to pretend like it wasn't funny. That guy did not enjoy my life.

Obviously not. So, Kuanish, your Chekovich, brought your back up from Almaty, Kazakhstan. Of course not. I want to apologize to you. It's deeply offensive. It's also nothing like what Kazakhstan is actually like. That's the funniest part.

So my guy, Kuna Kuanish, is like basically a Chinese Russian presenting. And Borat is. It's deeply offensive. But it was funny. Yeah. Why?