The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: Venting About The Weekend

Episode Date: July 15, 2024

Today's cast: Mike, Stugotz, Chris, Jeremy, Lucy, and Tony. Dan will be back tomorrow, but Mike and Stugotz begin today's show discussing the assassination attempt of Donald Trump and the questions they asked themselves in the aftermath. Then, Copa America had massive security issues ahead of the final between Colombia and Argentina at Hard Rock Stadium. Mike and Chris were on the scene and explain everything that went wrong including people sneaking through vents. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. This is the Don Leventor Show with the Stoogats Podcast. I know that people come to this show for distraction. We have a fun cast in today. I guarantee you we will be that distraction from what happened over the weekend, but we can't start this show without discussing the tragic events of the weekend. One person lost their life. A couple of people are still receiving medical attention, injured from the assassination

attempt on former President Trump's life over the weekend and to say it was jarring to experience all of that I think is an understatement. I kind of felt numb. Where were you when you heard the news? I was sitting at home. I too felt numb. You start to ask yourself questions as to how this is happening in 2024. You start to think about the gun laws in the United States of America.

You start to think about the Secret Service. You start to think about how lucky Donald Trump is to be alive today. And you wonder and you ask yourself, how could someone get that close with a rifle, with any sort of weapon, to a former president and a guy who was currently running for president of the United States. I was numb as well. Yeah, I couldn't process all those things all at once. That happened, I guess, in the several hours that followed.

It was kind of eerie in that I was leaving the American Century Championship in Tahoe. And I remember when I was in high school, 9-11 happened, and I was trying to piece things together by hearing people talk around the lockers. This was also like pre-smart phones and whatnot. And I remember picking up on certain things, and I thought people were talking about

how Independence Day was airing on like Network Fox. It was a Sunday night movie, and I thought people were talking about that. And I started piecing together more of this information. It was kind of similar. I was leaving this golf course, and I heard people talking like President Trump was shot at. I was like, wait, what? So I ex-search Trump shots fired, and I see this incredibly strong image of Donald

Trump bleeding from the side of his face, holding a fist in the air with the American flag behind him, a really striking image, and I start finding out what happened. And yeah, Sue got to all the same questions. Like, if a former president is there, this has to be. The Secret Service is there. This is one of the more secure places on the planet. And you realize the shot came from outside the grounds, and you have all these questions questions but it was a moment in time I continued my walk I got to the casino every TV had been either switched to news coverage or the news preempted what was going on all the big-time anchors were called in wall-to- wall coverage on this really horrific act. And then the processing starts happening.

You try to find out, is anybody injured? Did they capture this person? The world that we live in right now, you start seeing all the misinformation on social media and you try to parse what's real, what isn't. And then you start processing. And my process was, I understand how we got here. And it makes me like really, really sad. In the last few years, we had what happened on January 6th, we had an armed

assailant enter the home of the Pelosi's and try a politically motivated attack that severely injured Nancy Pelosi's husband. There are things that we have seen recently both over the weekend and the last two years which I personally thought we'd never see in my lifetime. Yeah, and now we're, we have this crescendo over the weekend of an attempt on on Donald Trump's life. And I think in the days that followed, what what really struck me was how normal everything seemed to be afterwards. I thought that this would still be something that everybody's living with right now. Well, what do you think was gonna happen? We were gonna cancel sporting events, things were gonna,

like what do you think was gonna happen? Yeah, cuz I, you could see like all the sporting events that happened that were on schedule that that followed and you start asking questions like there's no way any of this would be happening if that if that bullet was a little bit closer to Donald Trump and I was just really struck by how the world kept moving and I want to hit pause on that because no the world should not keep moving. This is... Well Mike, hold on a second because Trump kept moving. Well And I want to hit pause on that because no the world should not keep moving this is Well, I called on a second because Trump kept moving. Well, yeah, I believe he played golf yesterday Yeah, Trump was was pictured at the golf course, which you know, I mean people can deal with an attack on their life However, they want one of your supporters is in the hospital people can parse like what what the optics are there?

That's not but I do do wanna talk about the general normalcy that everybody just kind of fell into, and no, we shouldn't be normal. There is a huge, very clear and obvious spike in politically motivated violence. Sometimes it plays out in hate crimes, sometimes it may play out in hugely toxic rhetoric on your social media, and unfortunately it may play out in hugely toxic rhetoric on your social media. And unfortunately,

it's played out now with an assassination attempt on presently the leading candidate for president. And we should do everything in our power to put our foot down and say, this should not be normal. This should not be reacted to in the way that it is. We need to, again, it's cliche, but use this as a moment to come together. And I'm a little scared that we're not. You're scared because Biden said we need to come together. Trump has said he has scrapped his entire speech for tonight, Republican National Convention. He has scrapped the entire speech, he will talk about unity and dial it down a little bit and all of us coming together, you don't believe that is what you're saying. Because you have every reason to be skeptical about that, you do. I think that so far people are kind of meeting the

moment saying the right things and sometimes not saying anything is the right thing, especially when you consider some of the track records here. But then I started processing, like, well, what is my role in this? Am I a contributing factor? Am I making the discourse worse? Am I, by calling out things that I see, contributing to a toxic rhetoric? Do I want to kind of publicly check out on all of this? All these questions start popping up.

What does this mean for my family? What does this mean for November? Is this going to be worse? Is this a start of something? Because that was a fear that I had, which was also post-traumatic stress from 9-11. Because you start seeing things pop up on social media and you see all this increased security.

And I really do hope that it looks like from from from a tragedy standpoint we have the one loss of life the former president is as you mentioned playing golf hopefully it all ends there and we can all just take the temperature down dial it back and realize that we are percolating at an insane place. And maybe, hopefully in retrospect, that's the crescendo and it doesn't get any worse after that. And I really hope the politicians involved take the opportunity to cool everything down because this was, it was something that doesn't happen here. And if I'm someone from another country.

Happened in the 80s, hasn't happened since Ronald Reagan. Yeah, well, I was actually reminded of this on social media. Someone threw a grenade at President Bush and it didn't go off. I was not aware of that. But yeah, I would say that let's all take the opportunity to realize this needs to cool off. I'm really worried about our reaction to it, almost as much as I was made worried by the

attempt. Now, let's talk about the attempt. We know some things about the shooter. Again, this is a very tricky time for misinformation on the internet, but this happened in a state where the shooter got this gun. He's not old enough to rent a car in this state, but he is old enough to procure an assault rifle and take an attempt on the former president's life. He can buy that rifle, walk through a field, get to within 160 yards, I guess, of the president,

former president of the United States. He could do that, but he can't drive, he can't drink. So if I'm saying things like this doesn't happen in our country, and I've seen the perspective of people from outside of our country, and they usually just turn and say, what are you talking about? Of course it happens in your country. Look at the last few years, look at your record with gun violence and mass shootings. And that was another thing that I started to process after the initial shock of the attempt on the former president's life is life is people can't gather and celebrate a common tether anymore without the fear of this. That's supposed to be one of the more secure places on the planet and gun violence

is lapping up upon its shores. It's because guns are so accessible, Mike, in the United States, so we know that. We've been down this many, many times and hopefully this will lead to a change in gun laws, but we know it won't it won't it won't there There were you know when Sandy Hook was allowed to happen you realize that we were at the point of no return This is an attempt on the former president's life if there's any kind of eye-opening moment when it comes to to gun laws It would be that one. I don't think we're going to see that but hopefully again the former president has been relatively quiet publicly he's put a couple messages out on truth social but this is an

opportunity to do something good when it comes to gun violence but I don't think I don't know how realistic that is but there is some good find out tonight right there is some Donald Trump is'll find out tonight, right? There is some good. Like Donald Trump has first crack at kind of uniting the country, uniting the parties. They're never going to agree on everything, but at least they could dial down the temperature a little bit. And Donald Trump has first crack at that this evening.

It's a huge evening for America. I think COVID was another one of these opportunities that the former president Trump had in his past where he had an opportunity to unify, and the discourse was such that we got just more extreme and more polarized, and I hope that that does not happen in the next few days. And I think this is a huge moment in time, and Donald Trump's reaction to it is hugely important and I hope for the sake of everybody we don't we don't make things worse because that was was scary and you want to lean on hey that's not our country in the last few years kind of has been and now we have this assassination attempt and hopefully it's in our rearview mirror and not something that's predictive for the road ahead. All right everybody it's finally here best ball week at DraftKings,

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So it's a day in Levitar show with Stu Gotz. We got Stu Gotz back. Dan will be back in tomorrow. Shock that he missed today. It's open championship week. For what it's worth, John Stewart isn't doing his show today. There are logistic issues for the Daily Show. So I know Dan wanted to be here but I think with the travel coming back from Africa that was too difficult to task.

The plan was always for him to be in tomorrow. So he's going to be in tomorrow and it's going to be business as usual. It takes a lot to outshine what happened over the weekend in terms of security breakdowns and Copa America, it's final. They tried. Hard Rock Stadium, man, they did their damnedest to be the least secure place in America this week. Chris Cody, you were there, I was out there. Terrifying, terrifying scene. Really scary images.

Tons of people got roughed up, and let's get into why this happened, how it happened. Chris, you've been to several events at the stadium. Besides Miami, I mean. Well, you knew there was gonna be a shit show aspect to this. Once the final was announced, Argentina, Colombia, I was trying to explain to people outside of South Florida

what this was. I called it one of the biggest international soccer matches of all time. You told me it was the biggest. No, outside of the World Cup, you could make a real argument that that was the biggest soccer match ever. And there were a lot of people, it's like, it's not even the biggest soccer match of the weekend. You got Spain versus England Shut up get in price was like triple what it was for for euro. I know this market I know those teams I know it's support. I knew it was going to be something to Experience and thankfully the MLS helped us out and we were we were there for it But driving up you already knew it it was gonna be bad news. Chris, you go to events there a lot of times.

I'm a Miami hurricane season ticket holder. I was really concerned when I pulled up and I saw less uniform personnel than I do for a Bethune-Cookman game, establishing a perimeter. But driving up is when you realize this could be a problem. I could have told you that a week ago.

Well, look, this is a this is a venue Sue gots that kind of successfully and quietly has Become one of the premier venues it all of entertainment Yeah There aren't places that can host world-class tennis Formula One Super Bowls WrestleMania Taylor Swift's college football playoffs The way that this one has. And it's done all of that without any public scrutiny, without any high profile incidents. It's always been well organized and driving up.

Yeah, I could tell right away that something was different about their setup and it was not gonna be a good thing. Chris, did you have the same experience going up? It was just an insane amount of people. The vibes were actually great until you got up to the stadium. Like in the parking lot, in the far parts of the parking lot,

it was kind of normal. It seemed really crowded. And I was like, holy shit, everyone's got a ticket to this thing. And the parking lot was like, you can't get into the parking lot without a ticket. That rule was not followed. No one had a ticket.

But dude, when I tell you it was legitimately scary, every gate before, like at seven, when they were supposed to open, every gate, the four corners, and like the VIP entrances, what I'm telling you, tens of thousands of people pressed up against it as if they were like trying to,

like it was scary, dude. People banging on the glass. Like I understood why they were like, we're not opening this. And like Mike said, there was no barrier. So it was one of those things where as soon as they opened the door, they got bum rushed. The employees at that point were probably told,

don't fight it, just like, what are you gonna do at that point? I didn't even scan my ticket to get in. Because the entrance that I was at got bum rushed to the extent that I was sitting there with my ticket, like where do I scan this? And I just walked in because it was chaos. There was fights, I saw someone got kicked in the face,

I saw a guy with his kid and the kid's sobbing, crying. It was legitimately horrifying for a good 10 minute stretch getting in there. So why was it that way? And I mentioned the Bethune-Cookman perimeter that they established outside the stadium. For Miami Hurricanes games, of Miami Hurricanes and the stadium operations people.

They pay uniform personnel to be on the outside. Cognitive ball for whatever reason, who's a governing body here in conjunction with CONCACAF, they take over lead when it comes to stadium ops. So pulling in, you don't have the uniform personnel outside establishing a perimeter, checking for parking vouchers to get into the stadium. I, to get into my parking lot, had to make a u-turn that was really not efficient at all and I was left on my own on an island as a sea of people were moving from nearby places being dropped off by ubers. They were all on the street. So I'm getting waved at by stadium personnel who is now inside the gates,

who usually is outside the gates, telling me to come in. And I'm asking, how? How can I drive in there? There is right now, presently, as you're screaming at me, not doing it in a kind fashion, but I understand it's all crazy. There is presently 80 people around my car right now. You are telling me to drive through them without any uniform personnel guiding the way to come meet you there. Fine.

Now I'm an outlier because they checked my parking ticket and to see if I actually had ticket tickets. And I got in and then I got to the ticket place where I actually enter and this is the entrance. I went in the entrance that I do for Hurricanes games all the time and I know exactly how that place got bumrushed because I went to the front of a line after waiting for 40 minutes for a sweet entrance ticket. I go to a sweet entrance and someone tells me that's not the the entrance for this. I'm like what are you talking about? That's always the entrance for this. They're like well that's always the entrance for other things

but today the entrance is over there and he points to a singular door with a singular metal metal detector with a line that is wrapped around the venue and he tells me to go to that entrance. So you're having thousands every single person with a club-level ticket trying to squeeze into one door. Now in front of me there are fights,

there's pushing, there's shoving, and once you start having two people pushing and shoving, it's a domino effect, more people push and shove, they crack open a door, you're hot, you got your family, you start making a run for it, you start pushing against. The entrance that I walked in was that entrance that you've seen on social media that got totally destroyed, the 72 club entrance. That's where I walked in, I can absolutely see how that happened. I don't want to excuse the behavior of the people there, but I also think it was a byproduct of the entire setup. I've been out there for Miami FSU. Those people for Miami FSU, way more sauced up before the actual event starts than these

people. This got out of hand. This got violent and it was all because it wasn't mitigated on the front end. People made this situation worse, and you have families trying to defend themselves, you have cops now coming in with a full head of steam, making things worse, really pushing things because they're not stadium ops people. They're trying to manage this entire situation, which has already crossed through the threshold into a very dangerous public security matter. And so they're going to meet that moment with the type of aggression

that you're used to seeing from Miami PD. It was all really bad, really scary, really messy. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem like Hard Rock Stadium operations were allowed to do their usual job and had to take a back seat to a whole bunch of bureaucrats that don't know how to operate that stadium

and we saw how it played out with people actually going into AC vents, like die hard. Going into AC vents, people sneaking into the 200 level, which is like the suite level at points, they had the doors shut with like something in it blocking it and people are like on the glass like, no, I have a ticket to be in there. And they're just like, like nope there's thousands of people

out there we're not letting you in just legitimately scary at one point I don't want to make light of this at one point I almost grabbed a kid and did my I have a child thing it was that kind of chaos it did feel like Titanic it absolutely did feel like Titanic what was the idea with the vents right we were playing the the video on stream. I don't know. Were people gonna get through schematically through the stadium to somewhere else?

Is there a place where you can just hop out on the other side? Because what if you get in that vent? Mission impossible. Yeah, you start climbing and you're like, oh shit, I'm lost, where do I go? Mike and I were sitting in our nice suite and we were expecting a head to come through

the air conditioning vent. Like, oh, this place is taken, all right, next. Yeah, we were expecting a head to come through the air conditioning vent. Like, up, this place is taken, all right, next. Yeah, we were absolutely expecting people to crash through the top of the ceiling in our suite. Yeah, MLS hooked it up. We were in Club Lab and if we had that difficult of a time getting in, I can't imagine what people in the upper deck were experiencing.

Again, I told you, the get-in price for this was three times as much as it was for the Eurofinal. People had paid $3,000 and didn't even get their ticket scanned, some people were just stuck outside. Is there a chance that someone is stuck at a vent right now? There is. Wow. There absolutely is.

He's trying to call it doesn't have service. He's like, oh. There is absolutely. I'm sure they're doing a thorough search. But yeah, absolutely. You say that jokingly, I would bet that there's one fan still in that stadium. I guarantee you, I guarantee you,

there's a fan that's somewhere they shouldn't be right now. Stuck though. Potentially. Right. Yeah. Right, but you'd leave the stadium if you weren't stuck. At this point you're banging, right? You're like, all right.

And then once you get inside the doors, you realize that where are all the people? It was the games kicking off in 15 minutes. This is I know there's a ton of people here. I just walked through a sea of people. Where is everybody? You knew the game would be delayed and true like governing body soccer style. They were in the vents. There was a public announcement from some dude, I guess an official from Comonebol, with a bunch of cops behind them. And he was saying something that seemed important,

but the sound wasn't working on the announcement, so I don't know. But I gathered that they were saying that because of what was going on outside, they were gonna delay the game. The game got delayed about 75 minutes. I know a bunch of stories, and I know a bunch of people

that tried to get to their seats. People were in their seats and they had to handle it mano a mano, which is like, hey get out of here or I'm gonna have to get security. And you had a couple people calling bluff, go find the security. Security is bigger fish to fry. They're not gonna help you out here. So a bunch of people had tickets. They didn't actually watch the match from the seats that were assigned to them. It was real bad, real bad. What time was the game supposed to start?

Supposed to start at eight. And what time did it start? 9 22. Did you guys have a time in mind where like, hey, if it doesn't start by this time, it's a Sunday night, I got to work tomorrow. Did you have a time in mind where you're like, hey, I'm going to bail on this game?

I had that for if we didn't get let in, but we got let in around game time. So you would've waited till 11 if you had to. I was sitting like, if it's nine o'clock and we're not even in the stadium yet, I'm leaving, that's the thing. I had a babysitter, and so I had to get back at a time. I also had a friend who had very nice seats

that couldn't make it to their seats, and she was stuck outside, and I was worried about her because she was just by herself. So I wanted to make it out safely. I'd started, I went to the bathroom and I saw several police officers in riot gear. I was like, this could be bad. At that point, you, you wonder like depending on how this game ends, this could be a riot afterwards. And the police are dressed,

like they're expecting it to be. So I told Cynthia, let's leave at around like minute 80 and I I take Cynthia we go downstairs The elevator doors open to the 72 Club. I see this disaster area and I saw 200 Miami PD riot officers. It feels like an Armageddon type of movie. It was really scary So that just made me want wanna get out of there more. And so I find my friend, I get sworn by like 14 people trying to get a screen cap of my ticket so they can go inside, I'm like, read the room, pal.

I get to the car, I drive through some barricades because I had heard that they close off 27th Avenue, which seemed like a great idea at the time, let me tell you. I just got to the 95X and I was able to- This is an action movie, I mean, you're driving through barricades. I just watched Dante's Peak. I'm working on a limited fake.

It's a good movie. Limited fake Pierce Brosnan in Dante's Peak. You want to hear it? Yeah, please. You have to put the town on alert. What are you doing? You have to put the town on alert. He says that like 75 times in the first half hour.

Why are you working on this? You have to put the town on alert. But why? Well, it actually came in handy, because I got everybody in my Jeep, and I started driving like Piers Brosnan and Dante's Peak. Put the town on alert. It's a good thing you worked it out beforehand.

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Polynesian sauce. Polynesian, that's my brother right there. Good call. You're my brother. Stugats! Oh my god. What a weird interaction Wow, this is the Don LeVatar show with the Stugats Lucy this would have been the best edition of off-roading ever. You really miss a golden opportunity here with Columbia, Argentina.

When we went to Michigan, Ohio State, the fans were swarming us and they were not nice. And I was just Michigan fans, so I could not be happier that I was not there. Well, it was a different shade of maize and blue. Probably as incoherent and angry as you've ever seen. Look, there were a lot of people that wanted to be a part of that atmosphere that thought they just wanted to be around the grounds They have that TV. It's actually Set up for if you want to just tailgate and you have a ticket to do so It's actually kind of a nice setup over there We've seen with with tennis and whatnot totally different crowd three times

a nice setup over there we've seen with with tennis and whatnot totally different crowd three times. Also I heard from some this is my own reporting from Stadium Ops people that I know at Hard Rock Stadium. Company Ball also sold more tickets than they than they actually had. So that was a contributing factor as to why more people were there. But you know this is an event town you know that there was an expensive ticket people were just going to want to be there around that atmosphere and then people were like, well shit if everyone's gonna make a run for it and some people are gonna get in that stadium, why don't I? So it's a real mob mentality thing that spirals out of control and thankfully I was, I, dude, I went to bed as soon as that match ended

really afraid for what I was gonna wake up to because I saw all those riot cops, I just thought, wow, Columbia is not gonna take this loss well and thankfully nothing nothing on social media afterwards so kudos to law enforcement and stadium operations for for salvaging what was a disaster and a huge black eye for a venue that is usually stellar in this department. I feel like everyone at the end was just like, we've done enough. Yeah. Let's go home. Well, this is so-

Really? It was just kind of like, I feel like we've caused enough chaos for one night. It's after midnight. It's been a weekend. Let's leave it alone. Yeah, we're all just a little tired. No one needs this in their life. Let's just go.

International soccer matches, especially ones that have access to the secondary market, keep in mind a lot of these cup finals, there isn't a game time that you can go into in Europe. There is no such thing as a secondary market. I know that's hard to believe for club soccer. If you want to see a Premier League game, you're risking a lot if you're going to try to go to the secondary market. It's just not an aspect of the ticket marketplace over there. So you never see what you saw, which is all these rival fans sitting together in their pockets. Yeah, you have some silos, but you have sky blue and white

shirts next to yellow shirts. And you're hoping for a lot of harmony in a really emotional game. A lot of yellow. And it was a lot of yellow, but we could all see that. There were some people saying like, oh, this is messy mania. I'm like, dude, you have no idea what Miami is. I'll get to him in just a second.

But you cannot allow people who don't have tickets into the stadium, into the parking lot, to tailgate, to get all liquored up because they're so close to a game that they want to go to. There's a good chance that some of them are going to try to get in illegally. Well, how do you? That's a terrible idea.

Exactly. Seriously. So you're... Captain Hindsight. Yeah, yeah. They had a rule. No, you're not allowed in the parking lot without a ticket, but it was just hard to enforce it.

But Mike's saying there's a tailgating area. You're that close to a game that you really want to see. You're all liquored up. You've been drinking for four hours. Yeah, so people are going to get unruly. They're going to try to get into the stadium. Right, but you mitigate that by having a perimeter and you have different checkpoints that people go through.

So they're not all bottlenecking and you don't have like one person there telling tens of thousands of people, no, you don't have a ticket. You have a ticket come on through because that's gonna have a huge delay. You spread that out across all the entrances, which is what they do for frigging Bethune Cookman.

And why they didn't have it there for the Copa America final, I don't know. out across all the entrances, which is what they do for friggin' Bethune Cookman. And why they didn't have it there for the Copa America final, I don't know. I mean, I do know, because Comnipal was in charge and CONCACAF was in charge, and they decided no, we're the sheriff in town, you listen to us. To which I say, and I saw the mayor's statement on this, you're the cops. You don't say Comnipal was in charge. You're in charge. You're the cops. You don't say Comni-ball was in charge. You're in charge. You're the cops. What are you doing? You don't... Why is no one throwing their hands up saying, that's a bad plan? We do this all the time. I'm sure it happened.

But look, this is how you get the cup final. You bend at the knee. You bend the knee to Comni-ball and Konka-Kaff and you say, you're in charge. We'll do things your way way even though our way keeps everybody safe. Even though our way has a stellar record and is able to host World Cup tennis, World Cup matches, we'll see if that happens in 2026 now on the heels of this, but Formula One, you name it, this venue can do it. But here, with Khamnit calf and Khamnit ball involved, that's when we're going to decide we're going to be a shit show. Real bad situation. But here, with CONCACAF and ComniBall involved, that's when we're gonna decide we're gonna be a shit show. Real bad situation.

Not prepared, I mean. Real bad situation. Do you think soccer is dead still? I do. I mean, you stay up until midnight, you get a single goal, you get messy crying for no reason. I mean, just balling on the sidelines. And what is going on?

I'm serious. It's like a soap opera soccer. I mean, half the game is watching guys riding around on the sidelines. And what is going on? I'm serious. It's like a soap opera soccer. I mean, half the game is watching guys riding around on the ground like they're in some sort of pain that they'll never ever get rid of for the remainder of their life. And then they're up three minutes later and they're fine. And they're running around the pitch.

Guys, can we put up that, can we put up the ankle picture please? Yeah. Let's do that. Sugat said Messi was crying for no reason. Sugat. Look at that ankle. Look at the size of that ankle. I get it. Yeah. It's to God said, Messi was crying for no reason. So, look at that

ankle. Look at the size of that ankle. I get it. Yeah. Yeah. He was fine. I mean, he heard it in the first half. He got up two minutes later. He's flying around the field. He's doing whatever it is that Messi does, not scoring goals and he's

crying. I, Mike, I just, I can't get into the game. I tried to watch it last night. I did. You told me it was the biggest non-world cup soccer game in the history of soccer I would argue I would say some of those, you know, New York Arrows game Shep messing Steve jungle They were probably bigger. Okay, that that's club soccer totally different conversation the history of international soccer This is probably the biggest non-world cup match of my lifetime, but I try to get into it It's delayed 90 minutes. The game finally

starts. Guys are falling all over the field. They're faking injuries and you get a single goal. It's midnight. Faking injuries diving all over the place. That's not a fake. I don't like the sport. I don't know what to tell you. That's

totally fine. Yeah, I tried. I tried for you. I did. There were two games yesterday. You had Spain and England. That was two to one, I think. That was a good game. Right. What does it mean? I mean, they're European champions. So does Spain now play Colombia or Spain is well, actually they should do that. Well, they I'm gonna fix soccer now. They actually do next summer they'll play like a final I think where they take the UEFA champion against a coming-umbna ball champion and they have a really funny name attached to it and they play for a trophy but what

happens next is what happens next is there's another euro in four years and someone will be named European champion in four years but in two years is a World Cup that has nothing to do with what we saw over the weekend it's just you know each qualifying region has a championship. They essentially have a World Cup just for their continents and that's what happened there. So which one would you rather win? Like what's considered the better league?

The World Cup. No, no, no, I'm talking about like last night's game or England and Spain. Which one's more impressive? UEFA, I mean, if you look at FIFA rankings, look, they're both really hard to win. The world champion presently resides in South America, and entering that match last night,

Colombia had the longest undefeated streak in international soccer. A really interesting team, Colombia, because Jamez, I think he won player of the tournament, Jamez, who everyone would consider a superstar, on the club side, really bizarre career. Often injured, journeyman, not playing well for much of the last 10 years on the club side. But on the international

stage, he is so much better. He is every bit the superstar that he flashed in Brazil at the World Cup. He's incredible. It's a real huge gulf between who he is on the international stage and who he is on the club stage and It was it was high high drama high theater Columbia I would essentially describe their talent and people may dismiss me for this I know these the clubs that these players play for that is a rag tag group When homus is your talisman when homus is your your solid number your your number one name atop the team sheet, you're in a dire talent situation in your qualifying region and they put together the longest undefeated streak entering last night.

So an incredible game, tragic in some respects. I also saw children in the arms of their parents crying. It's hot. People, it becomes like survival mode out there. I can see how that spirals out of hand. Like the people had their hand in it. Law enforcement had their hand in it. Government bodies had their hand in it. Huge failure from the stadium ops people that told me they knew better. They straight-up said, yeah that's the entrance usually, but for, it's over there.

You're having someone tell you that with a straight face, knowing how dangerous that situation's gonna be. It's no wonder that that escalator on that side got totally destroyed. Gotta slip that guy at 20, by the way. You have to. Yeah, buddy, come on. I tried that move.

Although, on a night like that, it might be a C-note. Yeah, a C-note, but I mean, come on. I saw Mike McDaniel walk up and get in. I'm like, I'm gonna go over there Yeah, yeah that guy probably That guy probably has it figured out he knows all the great vents to crawl into the guy in the vent is Mike McDaniel's office Dude, you're saying suspended over look. Can we show the video again of the people climbing into the vents? wait There is definitely somebody inside the air conditioning system.

You make the wrong turn. I mean you're going for a mile inside an AC vent. I saw some guy just totally ditch his wife or girlfriend. Because she couldn't get up the canopy. It was just like he tried to lift her, she fell back down, and then she was just like, Sorry honey, see you on the backside. His ex-wife. Well, mob mentality is a very real thing.

We see it spiral all the time with riots, where you're like, well, this person's got to do it. And then you get out to do it. There's a 30 for 30 on the Vancouver riots when Vancouver lost the Stanley Cup. And everyone's just like, I don't really know how that got out of hand. It's like that escalated quickly.

It's the Anchorman meme. Never against Bethune, though. Never against Beth hand. It's like that escalated quickly. It's the Anchorman meme. But you sure. Never against Bethune though. Never against Bethune. It's crazy. Starting today I can run to a national title with Bethune Cookman. Yeah. On the video game.

Today. Still really triple option over with Bethune or no? Shout out to the world. Shout out to the world for somehow making a 10 year wait feel extra long as we approach the finish line here. Because today is the day for a lot of young men and women of a certain age, they're gonna find out that they have a hell of a lot less time

to play this game than they used to. And I am ready for that culture shock, but, Sue Godzai, I have braced Cynthia for this moment for 10 years. I have, you saw me out in Tahoe. We weren't working Tahoe. Tahoe was an anniversary trip. My anniversary isn't for another two weeks.

But I strategized. I came up with a pathway. I was getting no more trips. I'm not going anywhere. My next trip is Gainesville for week one against Florida. My summer is clear, and it's clear for college football 25. You're not a part of this since, I have two more trips to the sphere.

I mean, what's your first season road schedule like? I mean, you do have some trips planned. I do, yeah, well we'll see what kind of neutral site games I can negotiate with. Georgia Tech at the Mercedes-Benz Stadium. Seems like a great week zero opponent for my Nevada Wolf Pack that is now going to be perennial national champions.