The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: We Apologize To No One

Episode Date: October 7, 2025

"Anyone who thinks [redacted]: you're high!" Greg Cote is late (again), the Florida Panthers got their rings (again), Trevor Lawrence led a bizarre game-winning drive (again), and the Shipping Container got fooled by the internet (again). Today's cast: Dan, Greg, Roy, Billy, Chris, Jeremy, and Mike. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Halloween is on Disney Plus. Hello. So you can feel a little fear. What's this? Well. Or a little more fear. I see dead people. Or a lot of fear.

Mom? Or you can get completely terrified. Who's that? Choose wisely. With Halloween on Disney Plus. us. At this point, I know that we are used to, like, even sunshiny Jeremy Tashay coming in with traffic face because South Florida has cars stacked on top of cars. But even you're surprised, Chris, that your dad is late again, right? Like, even your surprise that we continue to shame him

and he continues to not be able to get here on time. I want to be surprised, but I also want to be nicer to him. So I'm struggling today. Okay. Well, this is a good thing for you to be doing. I know you've gotten a lot of complaints on the Greg Cody show featuring. If someone else do it, Billy, rip him for being late. Featuring Greg. I've gone to the wrong person. I mean, Greg's right about being late, so I don't know how I'm going to rip him, to be honest

with you. What are you being positive today? You're being positive Billy Ted Lasso Tuesday because you're still paying off your punishment from last week? Nah, it's my thing with Greg, no matter what he does. It's right. Come on. Don't tell people that. You're going to let them see mine. It was so

hidden. Our show didn't get the show there. What are you guys doing? Because I want to play some of these AI videos for Greg and see how many of them he believes, including the one of George Washington hitting a Grand Slam in the World Series.

Like, I want to see how many AI videos we can play for him before he realizes that those aren't real videos. Like, we can fool him pretty easily, right? When you guys are now getting fooled, I feel so much less alone now when you guys come in every day and you have to verify things seven different

ways because you guys are now getting fooled too by the internet what'd you get fooled by this morning mike there was a man remember when you could trust a verified account on x what was wrong with that setup what was wrong with it i don't get it but there was it was like duplicate it was stacking on on fakedom on social media mba centel uh posted a screen cap of a purported draymond green comment on lebron's doing the thing again where he wants everybody to talk about him. More on that in a second from Billy. But Draymond, a fake Draymond left a comment on the account saying, oh, you're trading brawny. And then a fake brawny was like, my dad's

not trading for you. And I'm like, wow, this is fun. And everybody was fake. Everybody was fake. Including NBA Centell. So it started with a deep fake and then you just went down the hole and it was just an assortment of other fakes until you couldn't tell what was real. Yeah, that's how they get people. When you truly believe something is plausible and you know you get disappointed thankfully you shake it off in about 30 seconds i i must admit though i wasn't fooled by george washington hitting a walk off grand slam i think the key with tricking my dad was you got to be subtle with it if we try to position

it like hey gregg look like we just got to be like we're all looking at him you've got no shot okay because these are all like dead people like i think you'll catch on to see you don't think we could get him with stephen hawking skateboarding i don't think we even need ai i think we could put my brother in this seat and pretend like it was a grid of death punishment, and he would absolutely think it was me for a whole show. We should do that. We should do that. We should have your brother in for a full show because it looks like you in a disguise anyways. Right. No, but his brother goes out of his way the one time I met him to do things sartorially and with his hair and face to be someone who looks different than Jeremy. Right. Which is

why we pretend it's a costume punishment. Yeah, it's a Beatles punishment for Jeremy. and now he just looks like me. We could do that one day. That should be one of the punishment. We'll find a teacher work day. Only for you. Make your brother come in here one day. And absolutely, he doesn't talk like you, though, right?

I think we can fool him anyway. He can just be quiet. It's a psych gag. If you think you're family. I'm ashamed to say that I called Amin and Carl yesterday and said we might think about a live stream for LeBron's retirement yesterday. You mean prime day? Yeah, right. He tricked me, is what I'm saying.

My point is, I'm saying. My point is I'm still getting fooled by the most basic things. This is the Dan Levator show with the Stucats podcast. On the television in here, I can see that Gary Bettman is sitting across from Mike Greenberg. And in a, you know, general commissioner's interview, there are questions like, what has Sidney Crosby meant for the league? but the graphic I just saw, okay, the graphic I just saw is still, and you tell me whether I'm entitled to be able to feel this way or not, is still disorienting to me when I see in type across the bottom of the screen, has Panthers Dynasty been good for the NHL?

It's wild. What the, like, I'm still confused by it. They got their rings, they got their rings, and they're perfect. They're the perfect team for today's America because they put stenciled on the ring. We apologize to no one. I've been so selfish and just thinking about myself. I haven't really thought about that question. Has this been good for the league?

But they're just saying, as a matter of fact, Panthers Dynasty, is it? Has it been good for the league is a secondary question to me? I'm still looking at Panthers Dynasty. And I'm like, what? What? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess. It's pretty wild. I guess you could do the thing where are there teams where it could be better for the league?

And I think that that's absolutely the case. If Edmonton had won the last year? No, I disagree. No, McDavid needing to win is better for the league than McDavid running the league. If it's one of those old-school traditional blue blood franchises like the New York Rangers and big market, it would be better. But I would say that over the course of this time, and it probably lines up with their new TV contracts, that ratings are up with the Panthers atop the sport and have been for some time. I mean, you look at it like some belt teams when the Stanley Cup, you know, like Dallas in 99 and stuff like that.

Like, yes, this is expansion. It's great for the league. They have 32 teams now. So, yes, this is absolutely great for the league. I thought at first you were saying it's like if a Sunbelt team won the national championship. I was about to get very offended. Middle Tennessee State. So the Panthers got their rings and the rings, everyone says they're beautiful. If you want to put that up on the screen and please have ready the Cody is late again,

Cam, so that we can all see him walking in whenever he walks in. they put a rat, they put a rat on the ring, they put palm trees on the ring, and they put the Sam Bennett drunken quote of, we apologize to no one, which Sam Bennett didn't even realize that he was giving them their motto after they won the title, but evidently the people in management really liked the drunken debauchery of Sam Bennett going from place to place in South Florida, telling everyone for three drunken days that we apologize to no one. I would like to take this time to apologize to absolutely no one. We're the double champs.

We do what the fuck we want. Let's go. They left that part off the ring. We do what the bleep we want. It's too long. Well, it's only because it's not the Marlins rings of David Samson that they don't have room for the rest of that quote on that. That let's go really does sound like the lonely let's go of Jeremy Tash.

as he tried to get us all fired up that one day. They sound similar where Sam Bennett is trying to summon what I thought was real emotion there, but his Let's Go sounds the same as the the Thespian child. Let's go! You know, it's really cool about today outside of another banner going up in that arena, and probably so if you followed the history of this franchise,

is you looked at the offseason that this team had, and I think they're already dynastic because they have, They won the Eastern Conference a year prior to their first cup. They've been in three straight cup finals. Everyone thought, they got a really good shot at three-peeding here, as good a shot as anyone we've had in our lifetime. And you lose Matthew Kachuk, arguably your second best player, and you lose Sasha Barkov, arguably the best two-way player in hockey.

And everyone still has excitement about this season. Let's see what we can do. Don't let us in the playoffs. don't let us get into that tournament with our guys healthy. It's a different quest here. It's not let's get home ice. You've seen this team do it anyway. You've seen them reach a cup final as the last seed.

You've seen them do it with home ice. You've seen them do it with zero home ice twice. I'm pumped for this season. I'm pumped to see the young guys try to ascend to those levels. And it's a really exciting time. Let's go! It's such a good point because we've lost our essentially our two best players. I mean, you could call Bob our best player.

but and nobody's this team is expected to still kind of compete and that's because of their depth they have an enormous amount of depth but it's also and tell me if you think i have this right i'll defer to you roy as the hockey historian around here but generally speaking when a team wins the title in that sport because of how hard it is because they're all giving their bodies to the cause in a way that's truly insane in the playoffs in terms of what they're playing through if you have the medal to be a champion, it's really hard to take it from a champion that generally speaking, the champion from the previous year doesn't fizzle out. You have to take it from them. It's not like the year, correct me if I have this wrong, the Miami Heat win the championship, and then the next year with Shaq and Wade, they've cashed in all their chips, and you can see that it was so hard for them that that's all they had. But if you have the medal in this sport to get to a championship, you taste it and it gets greedy. Do I have? have that historically right or wrong?

Well, there hasn't been a three-peat since the Allenders did it. I'm just talking about how champions get dethroned in that sport, that you have to knock off a champion the way Ohio State knocks off Miami, where you have to take it from them. Yeah, yeah, it's definitely difficult. I mean, the penguins did the lightning. It is absolutely difficult. It is tough, but recently in the NHL, to Roy's point,

you had that weird stretch where it seemed like the Blackhawks and the Kings were just alternating titles, and the Blackhawks were dynast. but they had breaks in between their championship wins. I think recent history, it's really tough to make it to three straight cups. I don't think I was ever alive for the last time a team made four straight cups. Yeah, this is – and the fact that it's happening in Sunrise, Florida, with what was for most of its existence, arguably not just the worst franchise in hockey, the worst franchise top to bottom.

I mean, financially, reach, on-ice success, probably the worst franchise in sports for a decent stretch there. And now they're running the goddamn thing. I won't say that as long as the Detroit Lions exist as something that was a 50-year embarrassment that made all its best players quit. But you're wearing a Pavel Burry shirt. And Pavel Burrace is close they came to winning a playoff game and they didn't. They got swept in the series when they were in the playoffs with what was the best. When they had McDavid, when the Panthers had McDavid, they didn't win a playoff game. It's pretty crazy what Pavel Burray did in successive seasons when you consider how the rules have changed.

Like if Pavel Buray was playing in today's rules, there's so many things that they did to neutralize Pavel Burry with the rulebook, which is why I'm going to cape up for the cause. It's high time that they honor his jersey. He was just, he was the best goal scorer in the league when he was wearing that sweater. And he should probably have his jersey retired. He was the only nationally relevant, because I wouldn't give it to Bobrovsky either. He was the, I'm sorry, I wouldn't give it to Luongo either. He was the only nationally relevant player they ever had before this last championship team in their entire history for 30 years.

But when you hear Sam Bennett, can you guys give me the second thing that people shout in sports when they're excited after Let's Go? Because Let's Go is the Runaway Hall of Famer. Trevor Lawrence did it. He's shouting in the middle of DuVroval. all yesterday when he's enjoying that he's, you know, stumbling backward and stumbling forward and giving you the most jag's last drive you will ever see, except it usually ends with them failing. I'm going to go through the details of that last drive because it's the game winning 60-yard drive you've ever seen for a four-and-one team because they could have turned the ball over

twice on that drive and at the beginning of the drive. This was great. I expected every part of that game last night to end with the Jags coughing it up at the end. When Patrick Mahomes goes down the field has his first game, and I don't know, three years where he's really chucking the ball downfield, Trevor Lawrence starts a drive at his own 40, okay, because kickers, kickers, starts to drive at his own 40 with a minute 45 left. And then I look up and there's a minute left and he's run six yards one way and negative three yards the other way. And so now there's a minute. And so now at the 43-yard line. They've gotten three yards on the first 45 seconds

of that drive, but only because he throws a perfect ball to Brian Thomas in double coverage, and he throws another laser beam out because he can do that. Do they get into position? Do you want to put your headset on so you can hear the other? And stop eating

bacon. What are you doing? Why are you late again? I hear him chewing my whole life. He's been the loudest chewer. I thought you wanted to be nice. Who eats bacon? Who eats bacon without grabbing a napkin so you don't have to wipe that on your jeans. They're jeans.

Put it on the poll at Levitar Show. Do you use your jeans to wipe your hands of bacon juice? Everybody does. Did you say that was Patrick Mahomes' first game in three years doing that? It was since the middle of 23 has he thrown the ball down the field like that? He hasn't

thrown the ball down the field like that. And again, we don't have to discuss whether or not there the same offense or not. They have not been since the middle of 2023. That's statistical. I'm not making it up. It's not my opinion. It's not an opinion. All right. Well, their offense has been back the last two weeks when they've had their wide receivers back and it sure makes a difference. It did make a difference last night, but they lost it late. And let me go through this so that you guys can answer my question on the second thing that athletes shout after let's go when they're

excited because the universal let's go is the accepted consensus of what you shout when you're really excited. Tom Brady named his whole slogan. His whole thing is let's F and go. But so this is, you want to guess, get me the stat of the day here. I'm going to get some dueling stats of the day here to do this. Start of the day, start of the day. This year, start of the day. Start of the day Start of the day This year start of the day Start of the day

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The Philadelphia Eagles take on the New York Giants Coverage begins at 7 p.m. Eastern Only on Prime Video. I have some nominees for you guys see if you have any that can knock these off or select one. I'm happy that Greg Cody is here. He is finally, a month later than the rest of us, bailed on the Miami Dolphins. Not sure why that's the one that made it happen, but that's the one that made it happen.

He now knows that the season is over. He is now quit on the Miami Dolphins. Billy, if you want to, I'm happy to do scheduled talk on the University of Miami. What? Schedule talk. If you want to give me the University of Miami's schedule. But let me look it up. I'd like to know what the University of Miami's schedule is.

of the season. Sneaky tough. We can do win loss on the Miami Hurricane schedule. But the stat of the day that I'm nominating right now to see if you guys can do better than this is go ahead and guess the last time the Chiefs, Bills, and Ravens lost on the

same weekend. Chiefs, Bills, Ravens. All three lose one weekend. Go ahead and guess when the last time... 20-21. Yeah, maybe things got wonky around COVID. Yeah. We're going to with COVID season.

1984. No. 2017. Oh, wow. Damn it, Billy. That's crazy. It's eight years since they all lost at the same time. The Ravens didn't exist in 84.

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Okay, here it is. Sorry. Adultery. That is. We are back. We're ready for this one. This is the Dan Lebatar show with the Stugats. You want to guess Trevor Lawrence is now in his fifth season.

You want to guess how many game-winning drives that is for Trevor Lawrence in his fifth season, what he did last night with less than two minutes left? Well, you had one in the playoffs against the Chargers that cost me $80,000. So I didn't forget that one. This includes the postseason. This is fourth quarter. overtime. Nine.

That's exactly right. Good job, Greg. That bacon really helped. Yeah, of course he knew. It's all bacon. Of course he knew. $80,000? Educated, yes.

Let's just get past that one. So it's two a year, basically, you can get from Trevor Lawrence. And he is the, I have this right, right? He's the only quarterback in the league who flips his hair over his shoulder before taking the snap because he's got to flip it over. Starting. Minchew's still around. Does Minchews go back that far where it goes down below the shoulder pads?

Minshue could have a high and tight and he's still going to do that move. It's muscle memory. I didn't trust anything happening with Jacksonville late in that game because their quarterback is a galloping Clydesdale. And he does things like fumble on the goal line trying to get a sneak. And he does things like trip over his guard's foot at the one yard line so that he falls down. This is almost math.

Do you know how big you have to be and clumsy to do what I'm about to say? Fall down from the one-yard line on the six-yard line, then on the eight-yard line again, and get up and run it in for a touchdown. I understand we want to lead with the quarterbacks, but that game was won by Devin Lloyd. I mean, how good have the Chiefs been with Andy Reid's head coach in that red zone area, in that goal-line area? They do this thing where they know the rulebook, and they have these legal pick plays,

which should be outlawed, by the way, that first touchdown to Travis Kelsey was, I mean, nonsense. And for Devin Lloyd to read Patrick Mahomes' mind, because you can't read eyes at that point, everything's moving so quickly, to know what Patrick Mahomes is going to do there, step in front of the ball intended for Juju Smith-Schuster, and then on top of that, display the athleticism. And I think we're all at the point where we thought this guy's going to fumble the ball himself right before the goal line or get it punched out, right? To run 99 yards after that play.

That is a season-changing type of play. That might be the difference between a home playoff game and not making the playoffs at all. That was certainly the difference in the game. Devin Lloyd, the last couple of weeks, I think he's been defensive player of the month. An incredible story, Joe Buck and Troy Aikman did so well in highlighting the fact that he entered camp in a position battle.

He wasn't gifted that linebacker position, even though he was a first-round draft pick a couple of years ago. what he has done over the last month has been incredible. He should probably be defensive player of the year because you look at the impact he's had per next-gen stats. So Devin Lloyd's 99-yard pick six swung their win probability by 42 percentage points in that moment. That's with two minutes to go in the third quarter.

It says that Devin Lloyd has added a 95.4 percentage in win probability over his league leading four interceptions. That's more than double the next closest defender. or his impact has been unfathomably important for this team. That's not just depoy argument right there. That is an MVP argument. But can we acknowledge also that it's random. Like we can be impressed with it and he should deserve these things,

but it's like, do you think, do we really think that... I understand it feels random, but like the plays that he is made specifically, like that is film study. That is 99 yards. That's also athleticism. That is God-given talent. There ain't nothing random about that play. He almost got caught from behind, too, on that one.

You know what was chasing him? A guy with a 4-2-40. The thing that I'm not going to do, though, is say that that won the game, even though I understand why you would say that, because at the end, Trevor Lawrence still had to win it. Patrick Mahomes did the thing that you expect Patrick Mahomes to do in that spot. And even with only 21 seconds left, if the Chiefs had been able to not get a penalty on their kickoff,

they might have gotten into field goal range. What happened at the end of the game was this Jags Drive that I believe, make them not serious people. And they're not to be trusted in a playoff game. They're going to make, I know that they're very talented. I will not dispute that the Jags are very talented. I do not trust them in any way. And I don't trust them because of how that final drive went,

because I've seen them play with that quarterback that way for five years. And here's what happened. It was wildly undisciplined. They get the ball at the 40, first of all, because Harrison Butker. Like, you cannot allow. The other team to start at the 40 when your only job is to never get hit and just kick a football. Kick it in bounds. They start at the 40 yard line.

As I said, with a minute 45 left after a minute, they've gained three yards because Trevor Lawrence has run to his right and run to his left. Now he's exhausted. He's breathing hard and they have to use the timeout because he just keeps running right and left and not throwing the football. Then they get into a third and 13 and get bailed out by an interference call on an interception. They also had another throw at the goal line that could have been intercepted. It was a dumb pass that he threw at the goal line that just way too dangerous a pass to be throwing in that situation. Also, hurry up offense, delay of game. It's just a total disaster.

And then I thought on that one-yard play, given what had happened earlier in the game, Mike, because you're saying pick six, but it's not like the Jags didn't fumble right on the goal line because Trevor Lawrence was holding the ball right over the goal line. 100%. The Jag, you can make the year. argument that the Jags are much better than the Kansas City Chiefs. When you look at the game flow, when you consider they had to come back, when you consider the huge fumble at the goal line, when you consider what you just outlined with that final drive, they were not making

winning plays all that much outside of Devin Lloyd and Travis Hunter's incredible catch. It was a little confusing, especially when Kansas City is playing so well on offense. Think, though, just think about what you said about the chiefs on the goal line, the precision and the discipline that makes it when that Patrick Mahom throws a pick six that goes 99 yards, you guys all react as if a spaceship had landed on the field because it's something that you don't expect. Now pair that against how Trevor Lawrence did things from the one-yard line. Just yesterday where I thought he was going to keep falling back until he was on his own goal line. And that play, even though he scored on it, wildly dangerous for him to be doing any

of that in an out-of-control fashion where he's not paying attention necessarily to how he has the ball because he's in total panic. Right, especially with an open receiver because the defender collapsed. It is hugely improbable, not just the pick six, but the fact that, as we highlighted, Lloyd outran Tyquan Thornton, who runs a 4275. I don't understand what I saw last night. The Jags might be legitimately good. They're really talented.

They might be legitimately good because they didn't play an A-plus game to beat this dynastic Kansas City. No, they cannot be really good because they're going to. to do something to screw it up in a big moment because they're wildly undisciplined. Jacksonville was gifted that game. I have seldom seen the championship era chiefs under Andy Reed look like they did last night. Dumb penalties throughout the game, bad special teams, defense completely losing that game. It was gifted to Jacksonville. I don't give much credit to the Jaguards for winning that game. I think Kansas City, just took a big giant crap on national TV.

Duval. Can you play the sound of their owner, Shad Khan, who's still trying to get over the urban mire of it all? He's still trying to shake it. This clip I want to play is actually from weeks ago, but he's so happy to have a winner. This is what we envisioned in January, okay? Yes, sir.

It's happening here in September. Gonna go on forever! Forever, forever. Talk to me in December. Anybody who thinks the Jaguars or a Super Bowl contender is high. What? You're high on dope. They're very talented, Greg. They're very talented. Their defense is hugely improved, but this is not a team that's going to scare anybody. Greg, all right, let's talk this out. How would you grade their performance last night? Give it a letter grade.

I would give it a C-plus to B. All right. You said A. You said A a couple times before he landed on C-plus. I agree. C-plus seems fair. They just beat the Kansas City Chiefs with a C-plus effort. If that team meets its ceiling, they can beat anyone in that conference. Forever! And they beat the Chiefs with the Chiefs playing a style of football that has evaded them for the better part of two years.

I mean, Pacheco was getting up every play flexing. Pacheco was even back. That was a Kansas City offensive performance that we've been longing to see. And the Jags mustered up a C-plus effort. and came back from multiple scores down and had to win in the game's final moments. Like, that's impressive. I come away from that performance thinking the Jags are going to be a problem if they make it to the playoffs because they could throw up a Jake Browning-type performance again.

You guys say this, though, because when you talk about the fact that some of this stuff is random and not repeatable, what do you do with what I'm about to say? Because maybe their defense is usually improved, maybe. Or maybe they had nine takeaways in 17 games last year, and they've already got four. 14 this year. Like, you guys think that's real? You think you can keep taking the football away at a pace that would allow you to have 14 takeaways in five games that would skew all the results because that's an absurd number. They've already got five more this year than they had all of last year. And that's a stat that usually correlates the winning. It doesn't

always, the dolphins have had five takeaways in the last two games and lost them both, or lost one of them. But in this case, Jacksonville, they can't, that's not repetitive. You can't have that pace all season. Greg, to your point of things not being repetitive, not just the turnover stat, which definitely seems like that'll come down a bit. But remember how they had everybody fooled last year with their ability to win one score games? They were 11 and 0 in one score games last year, even though their numbers reflected something closer to the Giants. We thought, okay, well, that could be a skill when you have the goat under center. You see their record this season in one-score games? Yeah, they lose them all. Because that largely isn't an ability, but

Patrick Mahomes did what he had to do at the end of that game to win it. What do you make, though, of the fact that the Jags have 14 takeaways and no other team in the league has 10? Like, that's, it's just an, it's an enormous amount of turnovers that they've caused, and I don't think it's because their defense is that good. I mean, but the plays that they're actually making, it doesn't seem like super fluky. It's not, you know, Arizona Cardinals, Titans, football's bouncing off feet. I mean, they're making really good place. It's not Bryce Young, just throwing the

ball right for Bradley Chuck. There you go. Here's a touchdown. I mean, and they did play Jake Browning. It's 14. Like, when everyone's protecting the football and they've got 14. Trevor Lawrence has nine game winning drives. They've got 14 turnovers in five games. They lead

in differential. They're plus eight, but you have teams like the Steelers are plus seven. The Saints are plus five. The chiefs plus four. These teams that are not having a lot of success in winning football games are also right near the top of the league in that differential. So while their turnover rate in terms of causing them might go down, you would hope if you're looking at this team, you're four and one, that Trevor Lawrence's turnover rate could potentially go down as well. You could look at

him as Liam Cohen and say, look at all the things we do well as a team. All you need to do is not mess it up. Duval. When I say that Jacksonville was gifted that game, Kansas City's offense was really good and it's getting better. They were good last night.

Mahomes was good and now they have Rashi Rice coming back next week. The issue is their defense was terrible last night. Special teams made errors. You know, penalties all over the field. Andy Reid had to be embarrassed by his team last night.

Not because they lost, but how they lost. You must have had the chiefs and plus minus three and a half. The way that you're talking, you had a terrible week picking games, right? I had a terrible week, and there were six or seven games. You had the Chiefs. Including Miami and Kansas City. There were six or seven teams that had double-digit leads and all lost the game.

And I think I was on the wrong side of all six or seven of those games. What did you end up going? You always wanted to talk about your picks around here. Only when I have a good week. What did you end up having? How bad a week was it? It was 4 and 10. Four and 10 against the spread?

No, straight up. It might have been better. I haven't figured it out yet. It probably was better against the spread the way my weekend went. But 4 and 10 straight up is my worst ever. It affects your analysis. You do realize when you get emotional about your picks losing. You just called a game in which the Chief scored 28 points and Patrick Mahomes led what could have been the game-winning drive if Trevor Lawrence had just kept Trevor Lawrence.

Yeah. And if the Kansas City defense had shown up. up for the game don lebatard all right we got to go back out there that was big wake him up oh he doesn't want he doesn't want to be bothered anymore now it's getting tense because he didn't need that as a result he needs something that happens you can we bother are we bothering you right now turn on your microphone my microphone's on stugats paint the scene the paint the scene is i got to go to work good night this is the don lebatar show with the stugats The thing about Trevor Lawrence, he threw two dots on that drive.

Like the throw to Brian Thomas in double coverage, Brian Thomas is not open and he's always open. That was the one play the Chiefs knew not to allow, but it couldn't be stopped. The way the ball was thrown, it was not possible to stop that, but they had it covered. Like, that's not a failure of the Chiefs. That was a play being made on 3rd and 13, 35 yards down the field by the only guy on the Jags who was going to do that and the Chiefs had. I remember this happened one time. This happened one time to Dave Wonstead, who was under just enormous duress in Miami. And they go up to Buffalo and they call against an all-out blitz the perfect screen pass at the perfect time that would have gone easily 80 yards.

And Jay Fiedler just threw it to a defensive lineman. If he had just thrown it over, he just threw it to a defensive alignment. And so the perfect coaching call ended up in failure, because as Tyreek Hill and others say all the time, even if the play is garbage, it's our job to execute it. The play Jacksonville won with with that throw to Brian Thomas was perfect. It couldn't be stopped by a champion, and they were ready for it. Like, he was in double coverage. It's not possible to cover that person with that throw with any two defensive backs in the league playing in that defensive posture.

Lawrence wasn't scared to McDuffie. McDuffie was blanketing Thomas a couple of times, and Lawrence was still being aggressive. So I think Liam Cohen's always, I mean, he always seed Baker before. He's one of these guys that isn't so scared of turnovers. We mentioned how they have this ability to make up for their offensive deficiencies by causing turnovers on the defensive end. What I like about Liam Cohen is he tells his quarterbacks, go for it.

We can live with certain turnovers, stretch the ball. take the chances, trust yourself. And Travis Hunter, by the way, made an excellent catch on that other deep ball that T. Law. It'll be the death of them playing that way. If everyone else in the league is playing the other way, if they're counting on, we're going to strip more turnovers than our quarterback's going to make. If that's what they're counting on, formulaically, I don't trust their quarterback not to do boneheaded stuff in important moments.

And on the other side of the coin, Mahomes are not often. is back when they have like three sub four three wide receivers because Jacksonville was playing two high safeties most of the night and it didn't freaking matter. Mahomes was hunting the big plays. So for someone that misses that aspect, you had both offenses, not really caring what the other team was going to do or how effective they were still taking their chances. Prime NFL game yesterday. T. Law? Yeah. I've been calling Trevor Lawrence T. Law for a while. It hasn't caught on yet. It seemed like you were searching for his name and then you pulled T. Well, I was searching for his nickname because it hasn't caught on.

But it's a great nickname, and you've got to admit it, and you know it, right? I like him. It's his fault it hasn't caught on. If he played better, it would. I think so, Billy. It's not you. Yeah, I think Billy's nailed it right on the head. But that's one of the reasons why I say, despite the result last night,

despite Jacksonville's 4-1 record in where Kansas City is, the Chiefs 100% are the bet to get back to the Super Bowl over Jacksonville. I don't think that's true. Who's taking that bet, or the Jaguars, who will go to the Super Bowl? Oh, I would make that bet and take Kansas City. Well, you've been wrong, most famously this week with all of your picks, but you've been wrong all year about the dolphins, and now you have finally, you've decided to shed your Homer label.

Billy, do you have Greg Cody's behind a paywall column back there? Can you read a couple of paragraphs to us from Greg Cody's columns so that I can finally hear what it sounds like for Greg Cody, you know, four weeks after the rest of. of us abandoning the season. There's a lot here. So I'll go towards the middle, quote, a starving man will beg, borrow, or steal for food.

A Miami Dolphins fan should be able to relate this season when it comes to the hunger for winning for something good to happen. Wow. And surrounding that was the fact that you're up 17-0. That's what I want to see. Against a bad team. I want to see that column in the first quarter you started ready.

What was that looking like in the first quarter? What was that color? Since you have early dental? lines? What had you written that you had to kill that makes you this mad at the Dolphins? Because all of your interests are self-interest. Yeah, true. And everything that you write is

tinted with the emotions of, how does this affect me? Well, when they're up 17-0, I'm writing a Dolphins win column, obviously. And I'm right. Look how good. See, two and three, like I said. No, but I am saying this. I'm saying two wins in a row, albeit against

bad teams. I'm saying, you've got the Chargers next who just lost to the Giants, then you've got the Browns and the Falcons after that. You're pulling a billy. You're just schedule-looking. Two and three, all of a sudden doesn't look so bad for those of you out there who were setting bonfires and firing everybody at O and three, you don't look so good right now, but all of that flipped.

Because when you blow a 17-0-0 lead, I don't care if it's on the road against a bad team. The way they blew it, Rico Donald is Walter Payton all of a sudden only when he plays the Dolphins. It was a disgusting performance. I thought it was the worst performance of the season, and the opener in Indianapolis was so bad they had to fumigate the entire city

by the stench the dolphins left there, and Sunday was worse. Are you doing your column now? Yes. The Payton thing was in there, the fumigating the city was in there. We went over the schedule. So what are you doing? The Dolphins X play a Chargers team that lost the Giants a week ago.

Then it's the Browns and Falcons. Optimism? Anybody? Was the RICO? Was the RICO stuff in there? Rico! Yeah, it was in there, too. So what are you doing? You're coming in here, unprepared and late, and then you're just giving us recycled from your column?

The best of. It's good. I mean, had I not told you, you guys wouldn't have known, you would have thought that he was just rolling with it, you know? Thank you very much, Billy. So they had to fumigate the entire city, did they? Because of the way the dolphins played in the opener, and somehow they were worse on Sunday.

Billy, read some more of the column so I could get it fresh before he spills from his mouth as recycled material. The Dolphins seemed up 17-0 to take the win for granted. The lack of killer instinct killed them. Bottom line is not good enough, McDaniel said. We are much better team than letting a 17-0 lead eviscerate. Are they, though? Evidently not.

I mean... Is eviscerate used correctly there? No. It's evaporate, isn't it? Yeah, he was a little flamboyant with that reference. But people are really getting tired of it. Did he get it wrong or did you get it wrong? No, no, that was a quote where he...

said of this. I think you got flamboyant wrong. Did I? Okay. You thought that that was the one that is the reason

the season is dead or that's the one that made you angriest because it made you most wrong, made your pick most wrong, made you rewrite your column and made you look like a fool. Both. I think there was more than both.

There was more than both. There was more than two options on the board, but it's all right. All of them then. Whatever. Don't nitpick me. The dolphin bandwagon is now in a ditch in flames.

Thank God. there was nobody in it. Even the driver jumped out the window before it careened off into the gully. You should show up late more often. Do you fire everybody? Do you fire? Because Zaslow every week is firing McDaniel.

Of course he is. But what are you doing? Well, listen, the second best coach on the team is the defensive coordinator who leads the worst defense in the history of football. So whenever anybody says, fire the coach, my thing is who's going to replace him? I don't

think there's any benefit to firing the coach during this season. What I think, and I've said it all along, is that if they don't make the playoffs, which now seems all but a certainty, he will be fired, and so will Chris Greer, and they will start cleaning a house. He's going to get fired. The question is whether it's before the end of the season or at the end of the season. I would agree with you, except if they have the miracle finish, if they finish 9 and 8. Please stop. Just please stop.

I'm just saying. Just please. Just stop saying it. Just stop saying it. Just stop saying it. Okay. I'm just saying when you say. This is a new and an improved Dan Levertar show with the Stugats. Gambling by Travkins.

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