The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: What People Think Of You
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This is the Don LeBattor Show with the StuGuts Podcast.
I don't mind being in charge, but God am I happy when Hawk's here and I'm ready to do show and just have fun.
Let's do it.
Except two minutes. We're ready to start. You're getting performance enhancing coffee.
Yes.
And your valet tickets on the desk.
In case I need to be ready to go,
I am absolutely gonna be ready to go.
We're just starting the day.
I don't know how this is gonna go.
I didn't even know you were in the main chair today.
You don't get the emails?
I feel like you are absolutely like on it, everything.
I was three minutes early and that was late to you.
Yes.
You know, and I'm going off of vibes.
That's what I operate off of.
That's the fuel that fuels Hawk, is vibes.
And so I'm excited about today's show
because I have no idea how the hell this is gonna go.
You know there's only two people in the world
I've ever called Hawk?
Yeah, who's that?
You and?
And Tony.
Andre Dawson.
Andre Dawson, the original Hawk, I give him that.
So now you're trying to be just Hawk.
Yeah, I've done a good job of branding myself as Hawk.
I have the Instagram handle, the Twitter handle,
I have the Snapchat handle, the TikTok handle.
I think I've done a good job, pretty much.
And so does everyone now just call you Hawk?
Yes, I don't think, there's a large amount of people
who have no idea what my real name is.
Andrew?
That is my real name, yes.
Andrew Austin Wyatt Hawkins, which is not a cool name.
I love that name.
Are you gonna officially change it?
The fact that you love that name
confirms that that is not a cool name.
You know, so I just, I'm Hawk,
and I have been for a very long time.
I think you're super cool, and I will make it
so that valet ticket stays Don V vote for poach for the next several hours
All right, we'll see I won't let you leave. See how it goes drink that coffee. Are you tired from the Marlins game?
Whoo, I'm gonna pull up chat GBT and figure out some of these topics as well starting with the Marlins
What are we juiced about with the Marlins game?
Do you know the Marlins are HO triple T and we're in a room full of people who we're trying to get a relationship
with again.
It crowded.
We got Billy and Mike and Tony and Chris and I can't tell who that is.
It's me.
Rodman.
I'm Zaslow.
We just did nothing personal together and what happened?
What?
What's different?
Why do you have blue hair?
I know.
I'm really confident that's why.
It's okay.
You'll adapt.
I'm the most confident guy here.
I see all of your wigs on the show.
And I don't know what you're talking about.
We're not supposed to mention the wigs,
even though video constantly puts up comparisons.
You're gonna get in trouble.
By who?
Dan's gonna text you late tonight.
Also part of the bet was that we never make mention
of what he's wearing on his head.
What was the bet even?
He was gonna be able to go to the Stanley Cup final game six game six. Yeah, and I'm not doing this one ticket
It was a plus one. So no it was yeah, right to two tickets
So I was gonna have to do a Sophie's Choice with my boys. Yeah, it's my least favorite expression
Yeah, SGA had to get over
SGA had to get over 52 points rebounds and didn't come close
No, I hate to see it. So here we are I just wanted to have everyone ready because I you know
I like being on time I get that and I had a slight panic because there was a lot of stuff going on like
20 seconds prior and forget shadow show I'm talking about like Zazz is looking like crinkling his nose and freaking out.
We've got you with coffee and Billy sat down
was eating what I couldn't tell
what may have been a sandwich.
And I just wanna make sure our heads in the game
because we get to talk and not reach for it.
We get to talk Marlins.
They had their best pitcher going.
The guy they didn't trade at the deadline,
Sandy Alcantara, trying to keep a winning streak alive
against the garbage can banging Houston Astros.
Do you know what happened?
It was amazing.
That was amazing.
Tell me more.
They got their ass kicked.
Oh shoot.
It was a nightmare.
There were only 10,000 people there.
Finally, they're lying about attendance like I did.
Finally, they used to have, if you go look at box scores,
Billy, you'll notice that they're not gonna announce
under 10K anymore.
You can't do it.
So you just do a little tad over 10.
What was the exact announcement last night?
Was it like 10,000?
I think it was less than 12, cause I looked it up early. Let's see here. It was the exact announcement last night? Was it like 10,000? I think it was
less than 12 because I looked it up early. Let's see here. It was like 10 something.
Yeah, that's what we do. Can you can you lie about the attendance figures if you're saying
like Saturday night they announced that it was sold out? Does that mean it was sold out?
Or can you also lie about that? You lie about that. Really? Yeah. If you actually look at
the outer edges, when it says sold out, you keep as an organization
hundreds and hundreds of tickets that you keep in house
that you can then give to the box office
or release them online right before the game
and the odds are they won't get taken.
So what you then do is you buy them for a dollar
and then you can call it a sellout.
So it's a totally legit business thing.
Doesn't seem legit.
Yeah, that's not totally legit.
Totally legit.
I don't know about totally.
Same shit.
By definition, would not suffice.
In that situation.
It wouldn't, it usually doesn't involve fraud, yeah.
Excuse you, that is a heavy word to throw out.
Three minutes in. All right, not fraud, funny business. Now funny throw out three minutes in.
All right, not fraud, funny business.
Now funny business, I'm in.
Fraud?
Well, you know.
Shenanigans?
You love mess, B.
Words have meaning.
10,827 yesterday.
That's my guy, they're back.
None of this crap of announcing 5,842.
Well, there's a lot of people at the Budweiser bar,
that's why it looked like it was empty.
And they all happened to sit in the corner sections
of the second deck.
Yeah.
What a coink-a-dink.
I mean if those are your seats and you get to just
walk around the promenade on the 100 level,
why wouldn't you?
We had talking points that we gave to broadcasters
when Marlins Park first opened to explain
some of the openings in where there weren't fans,
and we said they're all out touring the ballpark.
They're walking the concourse.
They're looking at all the cool things.
The bobblehead museum.
The bobblehead museum.
But how would they put it in the conversation?
Would they just say,
if you're wondering why there are empty seats,
people are walking the concourse.
They're all at that center field nook
where you can kind of see,
you're at a bar and I can kind of see the home plate. There's some you go in the offensive. You don't you don't wait for it to come up
You say things like and we got thousands of people touring the ballpark. That's why you see some of the empty sections
They're walking around. You don't even say that's why part you go on the offensive never the explanation part
You say thousands of people are out there all part. Have you let them put the pieces together?
So you just like open the broadcast? So welcome, it is another one today,
Marlins versus Phyllis.
For all you naysayers out there saying,
hey, there's no one in the stands.
That's not what's going on.
They're all just walking around looking at the bobbleheads.
They're buying some popcorn.
They're buying some merch.
They're at the cat.
You shut the hell up when you say
there's no one at this game.
They're at the sad kids area.
That's what you would tell like Rich Waltz.
That kids area.
They go out there and start attacking people immediately.
We just wouldn't even save to all of you naysayers,
you just go right out on the offensive
and say this is where people are.
This is the place to be.
Enjoy this game, enjoy this moment.
And this is the time right now with the Marlins
to enjoy what's happening.
When I do radio calls for FIU football,
I like just kind of throwing out there,
whether it's true or not, I'm like, man, great crowd tonight.
It's just, it's wild.
What's going on today?
Like, oh man.
This is Miami, ladies and gentlemen.
Look at this crowd.
This is a good one.
It's radio.
So you can really say, oh man, look at this.
This is a really energetic crowd we got here tonight.
Does your partner like look at you
and like give you a look when you're doing that?
If you're looking at four people in the stands,
it could be true still.
I also, I also will like- Not fraud, it's funny business.
On baseball games, when I do the baseball games,
I'll say, man, wind is really whipping around today.
Just throwing the wind really whipping around.
You get that in there nice and early
because the wind can pick up, it could slow down.
And then if there's a misplay ball later in the game,
like, hot, that wind, man.
I told you the first thing, the wind is, whoo!
I like that.
You're already giving excuses for player ineptness
and you're doing weather.
I'm painting a picture,
whether it's the picture of what's going on
or a picture of my head, I'm painting a picture.
That's it.
How would you do that in another sport?
What do you mean?
What is the picture you would paint in football?
Give me a sport, I'll paint a picture.
Paint me the picture that would allow for bad performance
later in the game that you're describing on radio.
Oh, I mean, you mentioned the weather, you mentioned, oh, it looks like I was walking around on the field today and things
You know not anything against the grounds crew. It is turf, but it was raining last Wednesday. It's a whole thing
You got slick surface. Yeah, you know when this is what you get with week 14 football, right guys legs are not underneath them
They're a little bit beaten down. This is where the technique really comes into play and these Thursday night football games. They're a little bit beaten down. This is where the technique really comes into play. And these Thursday night football games, they're tough.
They're tough turnarounds for these football teams.
And they fight and they battle through it
for the slugfest you see out here today.
We have a three, six score going on here
in the fourth quarter.
Ladies and gentlemen, Wendy, this is Wendy's picking up.
No, and you say, man, this is classic CUSA
Wednesday night football right here.
I'll tell you what, I'll tell you say, man, this is classic CUSA Wednesday night football right here.
I'll tell you what.
I'll tell you what, Cory.
This is the grind right now.
This is what they've been working for.
Throwing a little bit off here.
They go the Friday game, the Saturday game,
bounce right back.
You have almost a short buy.
It's a Tuesday game.
Then next week, there's a Wednesday game.
And you look at this schedule, this match,
and they close this season with three tough games.
Ohio University, they got Central Michigan
and a Kent State football team that has a kid
that didn't play high school football,
but they're excited about it.
It's not your father's Kent State.
Don't let that Sam Houston 0-1-8 record fool you.
I'll tell you what, they've been in every game.
Yeah, and that's paying the picture.
Four of those games ended within two scores.
So that tells you how right there they are as a football program. They're fighting. They're tough. Yeah. And that's painting pictures. Four of those games ended within two scores. So that tells you how right there they are as a football program.
They're fighting.
They're tough.
Absolutely.
I don't find any of that to be funny business though.
You wouldn't.
Now you're over here pitching sellouts.
We're painting pictures.
We're painting pictures, exactly.
That's not funny business.
Shut up the codec.
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Don LeBretard.
Oh, I like firing people.
So I take the opportunity to fire whenever I possibly can
because I can use it as a learning experience for them
and try to help them out
and try to point out what they did wrong.
But in this case, the employee was enough levels below
where I was that I did not do the firing,
but I had it done within moments of discovery.
I like firing people.
It's just absurd.
It's absurd.
Stugats.
I'm talking about people who I fire who deserve it, who have done something that actively
requires me to fire them.
It is my unadulterated pleasure to do so.
This is the Don LeVatar Show with the Stugats. What would be the equivalent for podcasting of saying that the place is sold out when
you're actually giving tickets away to your staff for a dollar?
Because that happens in every, every industry.
When you take your show on the road?
Well I mean like you're like hey, not even the one-to-one of ticket sales. What is it listens downloads?
Everybody pushes the funny business game. Oh, yeah fastest growing podcast fastest growing
Number one podcast on Apple is a is a pretty good reflect the new shows
Oh, that's that's because you had like a thousand downloads you screenshot it when you're new
Yeah, show you game that. Twitter bio.
A number one Apple podcast show.
It's funny, it's all funny business, man.
Nothing personal is an award winning podcast.
There you go.
Funny business.
Doesn't matter the award show is the Andrew Hawkins
Meadowlark podcast of the week awards.
Well, there was that one too.
It's a multiple award winning show.
And that's how you go multi.
A sports podcast award. Billy Gill, you're with me. Yeah multi-timer
Yeah, multi three out of four ain't bad meatloaf. Yeah now we're gone
There's a lot of ways that you can make things look better than they are and I'm not just talking about makeup
Yeah, you can spin anything. I know why you looked at me when you said you look so good
I've never seen someone look this good up close.
All right, I'll take that.
I mean, Hawk.
All right.
I'm glad we punched in on that is all I'm saying.
I feel funny.
Yeah, that's funny business.
Just like you don't have scales.
Yeah.
David said yesterday he would have sex with a fish.
Oh, okay, that's.
Thanks for the quick context.
I don't think there's a reason to go on because today's Tuesday, but Billy
I appreciate just catching everyone up in case they're listening
They do listen to the show because every day why wouldn't you it's award-winning. Well this one actually is I believe that we've
I believe that Billy and I have won more awards podcasting than Dan has I
Believe that because you've submitted for more well, I've won a lot you sum it up. Is that because you submitted for more?
Well, I've won a lot of award this year.
Look at me, Louis, for sure.
I have won a lot of awards
and I understand the award system.
Look at me, Louis.
Thank you.
You got a 40 under 40 in there?
I got two 40 under 40s this year.
I'm not gonna lie.
I just, I won a hashtag award like two weeks ago
and I realize the system of awards now,
but does that make it valid?
Right, if you submit for the awards,
like how much credence do you put on those things?
Have you ever seen what the Oscar race, the Tony race?
Yeah, I guess you're right.
You go on a campaign.
It's part of the budget of a movie is the award campaign. At what
point it's all funny business then is what I'm saying like even even in a
world where you might feel like an imposter like okay my podcast has
awards or I'm an award-winning podcast even when you are that level you still
add more funny business on top it's like the system that you need to do it. I don't know of any successful business that doesn't have funny business on top. It's like the system that you need to do it.
I don't know of any successful business
that doesn't have funny business in any industry.
What happens to the budget put aside for award show stuff
if your movie's terrible or your project's terrible
and now you're not up for it?
You still submit.
You don't know your stuff's terrible?
So listen, if you believe that you have a money loser
and you have a budget issue
and you think that it's an absolute dog
because you know it when it's happening,
you take that money out of the budget
and you put it back to cover some of the losses.
Very important.
That's like a trade deadline decision.
I never feel like mine is a dog.
I'm always, there's always a chance.
There's some idiot out there that's gonna like this
and we're gonna go for it. You end every show saying, man, there's some idiot out there that's gonna like this and we're gonna we're gonna go for it
You end every show saying man. There is some idiot who like this
I wish there was like I wish someone could tell us like some examples of bad movies that thought they were good
It's like no no they did the whole they tried to get nominated. They did the whole stuff, but it's like like G Lee
We can't I mean like what's the movie that was like?
Really I thought that happens a lot like has there been so many I wasn't that it's what I it's like my word
Association with terrible movies. Yeah, I've never even seen it
I have you know that that's I think G Lee is the movie that if you think of like worst movie
G Lee is the one that comes to my happen to Ishtar. Yeah, there's stars
Invoked a lot right now. There is a movie that is getting
Destroyed by the critics. What's that?
War of the Worlds with Ice Cube.
That's a real thing?
So Ice Cube stars in a war of the worlds.
I thought it was like a fake AI poster.
We'll get to one of those later.
Apparently the entire movie takes place on a computer screen and I haven't seen it.
But I want to see it now because of how bad the reviews are.
Is it a sequel to the Tom Cruise?
No, no, no, no. It's a reimagining.
Waterworld.
That movie's great.
I enjoyed it, but it got pummeled.
Yeah, it got pummeled by the critics.
And it lost a fortune.
Remember, it was the first ever $100 million movie, right?
That movie rocks.
I don't recall its budget.
That was the first ever.
I think so.
That was the whole deal with Waterworld,
that it was the biggest movie studio budget.
People thought it was nuts.
Oh, $100 million to make a movie?
I think it was the first one.
Stallone?
That was the voice of the people in the executives.
Stallone was pissed.
He's saying.
It seemed really bad about this.
Costner was in the movie, but apparently,
so that's just Stallone was upset.
He was offended.
About how much money they spent on that movie.
$100 million?
Rocky's budget was half of that.
What is this?
Peeper.
There's no way Rocky I had a budget of $50 million.
No, no, no, no.
There is no chance.
I bet you that budget wasn't $10 million.
Yeah, maybe not.
When was it, 1976?
The original Rocky was in the 70s,
and that won awards,
and it created this great franchise.
I am familiar with Rocky.
But if you check the budget.
1.1 million. 1.1 million.
1.1 million for Rocky.
Damn good movie.
I like movies from the 70s.
Kevin Costner with his hair.
My recollection of that movie is that he tried too hard
with the hair, sort of like Zazz,
where when it got wet and he had the back ponytail,
that was like the Steven, is it Steven Adams
who has that sort of?
You're taking me back, Mariner.
I love that guy.
That's so good.
Gills behind the ears.
It just didn't work.
It worked.
It worked.
You were the problem.
Waterworld is great.
I never seen it.
It's an epic.
OK, who cares?
Like, yeah, I lost a fortune.
That's all right.
You guys lost a fortune.
You won a World Series.
Who cares?
Yeah, that's a fact.
That is how they play.
It's all a house of cards, man. You can just default on everything apparently.
I agree. Nothing is real. You cannot default. The president was bankrupt like 11 times. We're good.
Now people can recover from bankruptcy. Even companies can.
Yeah. But movie studios can disappear quickly. Very quickly.
They'll just get bailed out. I want to hear more about this Ice Cube War of the Worlds.
I swear, I thought it was fake.
I saw the movie poster yesterday.
Ice Cube's not doing War of the Worlds.
Is it out?
It's got an IMDB rating, I believe, of below four,
which I had never seen before.
And maybe it's different now, and maybe it's higher now.
You mean Rotten Tomatoes?
No, IMDB is scale one to 10.
No, the tomato meter has it at 0% and 12% audience scores.
That's hard.
What about the IMDB number?
There's a number out of 10 that is always there.
3.2 out of 10.
That is a bad movie.
It's a bad movie.
I'm trying to think if I've seen a lower one than that.
Are they rating bombing it though?
Maybe like a rival movie studio who really wanted this script.
This on Prime.
I don't think I think it's just that.
So it's a straight to streaming?
I don't know what to trust anymore.
Well, that's not so negative anymore, Zazz.
Stop that.
Straight, that's like saying, oh, your show's only on YouTube.
What?
You're going right to Apple Music?
Right, exactly.
You're not putting this thing in
Radio Shack with the rest of the albums? Here's some reviews. I really don't like the sound of a lot of modern reviewers when they say outlandish statements like, this is the worst movie ever made,
mainly because it devalues films like War of the Worlds, who had to work really hard to actually
be one of the worst movies ever made. Jesus.
It's such a bad review that you can't even watch it now.
Sometimes you'll watch something
just to see whether you disagree,
but this one I think it'll just be a straight pass,
and it'll disappear from the,
when you turn on Amazon,
does it get blown to you by your algorithm?
Because it was to me for a few days,
where you turn on Amazon and it's right there for you.
My guess is it's going to change now.
I've seen the screenshot of this movie.
I didn't know it was an actual movie.
I just saw Ice Cube as a gray-haired man,
and I'm like, oh, he's back in the acting game,
doing something new.
Eva Longoria's in it?
Eva.
Yeah.
That's what he said.
Apparently, a little.
What did it sound like I said?
This seems like a brokered film.
A lot of the reviews are just like,
this is just one big infomercial for Amazon.
Not sure how.
Not really curious to see it.
I'm usually down with the idea of watching a bad movie,
thinking like, oh, it's gonna be funny bad.
And then I watch Morbius, I'm like, oh, this is just bad bad.
There's nothing funny about this. Yeah, it's gonna be funny bad, and then I watch Morbius, I'm like, oh, this is just bad bad. There's nothing funny about this.
Yeah, it happens.
I like the idea that Amazon or these companies
can pump out these movies and they've got deals with people
similar to the Adam Sandler movies,
although Happy Gilmore people are loving.
I still haven't watched Happy Gilmore, too.
Really, because I've heard it's the worst movie
they've ever seen.
I won't watch it.
On principle alone, I won't watch it.
So you said that you've heard people love it,
and I've heard that it was,
it almost ruined the franchise.
My principle is very simple.
I am not rewarding lack of originality.
Okay.
Who has said it's the best movie of all time?
I feel like there are some people that are like,
it was fine and funny.
I feel like that's as far as I've heard anyone go.
I liked it a lot.
Well, that's as far as I've heard anyone go.
But he's not saying the best movie of all time.
Just because you're making it uncomfortable
for him to do that.
I want this to be a safe space.
I want him to be able to say that to him
it was the best movie of all time,
but the way you presented it,
he'll never do it now.
But I don't think he actually even says that.
No, I don't believe it was the best movie of all time.
Got an idiot would say that.
It's the best movie of all time.
Just someone in blue.
I don't wanna look like an idiot.
But I think it is, is the people that didn't like it
think if you say it was even good, you're crazy.
That's where I think the disconnect is.
Why do you guys care so much about what people think of you?
Oh man.
I don't care at all what people think of me.
That's all lies.
Both of those, both of what you just said are lies.
Me and him?
Yeah, you asking the question like as if
you don't care what people think of you is a lie.
It's not that I don't care, but like I-
Him being so definitive that he does not care what people think about you. It's not that I don't care. But like I.
Him being so definitive that he does not care
what people think about him.
Couple of liars cutting it up.
Couple of liars just lying to each other.
It's not that I don't care, but it's like,
if I didn't think G. Lee was bad,
I'm not gonna say it's the worst movie of all time
just because everyone else in the room is saying it.
Yeah, I get that.
You might not be influenced by what people say.
Or you might have differing degree
of how that influence affects you. But to say that you don't care what people think about you you might have differing degree of how that influence affects you,
but to say that you don't care what people think about you
is not a true statement.
That's true.
Hawk, we're not close yet,
but I'm feeling like there's a chance, but not yet.
No, no, no, I can confirm that.
Were it to happen,
and we would have any sort of relationship,
you would quickly learn that.
You'd be the first human I ever met.
You'd be, I'm looking forward to getting to know you say I'm I'm excited to keep that green card in your wallet
For the duration look at that shirt
Do you think he'd wear that if he actually cared what people thought you know? I don't lie. I don't mind that shirt
I'm really great shirt Mike don't I don't mind
I like it. I like the fact that he wears it.
Like it doesn't even care.
That's different though.
That's a different thing.
I know, but what I'm saying is I don't-
Would you wear that shirt?
Yes.
I'm black.
You would wear that shirt.
That's the difference.
I can wear anything and look good.
Switch shirts right now.
Swag.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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Did he pull off the vest that you have on right now?
Switch shirt.
David wouldn't wear a shirt someone had already worn without watching it.
Correct. It's not that I don't like it.
He came in here coughing though, and I know if it was reversed, and I walked into the studio coughing, he would have shut the show down.
Thank you, but no. So I finished the two hours in the other room of nothing personal, and I wanted to get a throat clear done
prior to starting this show.
Just the preemptive cough to avoid future coughs.
You have to do the preemptive.
And in terms of the way you look,
for those of you not watching,
it's a beautiful black sort of heavier t-shirt
that looks more like a sweatshirt
that's a short sleeve shirt.
It's a short sleeve sweatshirt
with a tactical vest in cargo pants
And I'm wearing a hat with a black panther on it literally and I didn't realize until I was in the elevator
Of what kind of signal this this this this this outfit could give off that did not register
It's a once-over. He did the elevator once over we talked about that. Yep the elevator once over and then Franklin also
So I like that hat. I'm like, yeah, they have a bunch of my have a scorpion
I have one that is a tiger right and then I'm like a little different though. It's a tough. It's a militant outfit
Dude, it is it is making us an unintentional statement. You're a face mask away from asking me for my papers
Except in these times on diamond necklaces read the room diamond necklaces. That's what that kind of brings it a little lighter
I think it changes the whole package. Thank you. And I like I do like your shirt
I would wear that with a diamond necklace. It's very Miami
I'd probably you know depending on how many drinks I've had button it unbutton it down to the belly button area
I don't have a chest like that. Yeah, but I mean you got to go with what you got
You guys know but if you don't care what people think doesn't matter hairless and unattract go. But if you don't care what people think, it doesn't matter. It's middle-aged and hairless and unattractive.
Hairless.
But if you don't care what people think.
Yeah, I don't like hairless, yeah.
Need a little hair on there.
Need a little scruff.
If you don't care what people think,
then you're unbuttoned.
Oh, you're missing it.
I care what I think.
I'm talking about how I look to me.
So nobody cares what you think
and you don't care what anybody else thinks.
Maybe that is the-
Are you telling me that my self-worth is gonna be
by whether or not Tony likes my shirt?
Am I gonna hate him specifically?
I think if Tony liked your shirt,
you'd have a better day.
If Tony told you he didn't like your shirt,
I think you'd have a better day.
You don't like compliments?
No, because I don't appreciate,
because I don't listen to insults.
What?
You can't have it both ways.
You can't just say, oh my God, you look so pretty,
and think, oh, you look pretty,
but then when someone says, oh, I don't like the way you look, you can say, screw you, I look great. I agree. You can't have say, oh my god, you look so pretty, and think, oh, you look pretty, but then when someone says, oh, I don't like the way you look,
you can say, screw you, I look great.
I agree.
You can't have it both ways.
So you do not like compliments?
I don't, no, I just said I don't believe them.
That's a very big difference.
Okay, you don't believe compliments.
Stay with me, you've got this.
I don't believe the positive or the negative,
which is the only way to survive in this town
with a room full of Mike and Billy's who are just negative.
I guess that is it affect you
What does it there's a positive?
I grew common affect you to you fit does somebody say you're I like your podcast make you feel good
So it's not a matter to you, but I don't think I got you down that
Yeah, does it affect you do the awards make you think you have a good podcast?
No, the awards make other people think I have a good
But you don't care what they think no, but you want them to listen. No, he's full of shit is what we're getting at here.
Wait a minute.
Let's keep going. Excuse me Hawk.
I want hate listeners and love listeners.
I know you, I love them all.
You have to have them both.
I get you, I understand.
You need everybody.
I understand.
I understand. You need fans.
I want fans to go to Marlins Park who hate the Marlins.
Why? We love the other team.
Because I want them to have that experience
and to pay their money. Because it makes me look better when it's a full house.
When I get to announce-
Who cares how you look?
That is what the point is in order to be
a successful president in your own mind
and have you exude success.
Why do we win the World Series?
For you?
No.
You paid for it.
You're still taking victories when the Marlins
have a good attendance right now?
But you inflated attendance. How is that? I don have yeah right now, but you inflated attendance
How is that? I don't care what people think we inflated attendance
There's no way never have the opportunity for people to say
The facts are you have the 30th rated attendance. I'm sitting here. What the worst so you cared what people said about this
Is what you gotta understand trying to catch me. You can keep going. It's not catching you
This is what you gotta understand. You guys are trying to catch me.
You can keep going.
It's not catching you.
My conscience is good, radio.
It's fundamental that you can't care about awards
unless you care what people think.
And you can say, well, I want people to listen.
Well, you can't want people to listen
unless you care what people think.
You can say, I want the money.
Well, you can't want money
unless you care what people think.
Well, I want success.
Well, there's no definition of success
if you don't care what people think.
You would just live.
Like all of these things still tie back to other people
and you at some point, even if it's a minuscule amount,
caring what someone else thinks.
Is that why when you're a castaway you wear
like a little thing over your thing?
Because you're worried that someone's gonna see?
That's real life, no, it's because
I don't want the wind to hit my dong and
Dong burn serious burn is a serious issue that I don't think you're taking serious enough
I do not take that serious at all. You do take it serious. You don't walk around dong out dong breeze
Yeah, you don't like the dong. Have you been to a nude beach?
I have not been to a nude be none of you have been to a nude beach
No, it goes against I care what people think so you frequent them
I don't really know what that wrong word but I've been to nude beaches you
partake yeah are you being a creeper you are nude at a nude beach what it's like
to get in there's like a thing like take it off it's just everyone else's just
hand drop and bottom it's just tan lines is that the purpose the function of it? It's just to feel free and to be cool about it
Someone I used to be married to is it like an euro trip. I feel plenty free at a regular beach
There's never a time where I'm like man. I'm so constrained by this by this by this bathing suit
I I need to be more free which I was able to have my penis out
I wish I could throw that breeze on my dog.
Do you remember the first time you went to a topless beach?
There's one in Florida.
Everyone remembers that.
Every beach down here is topless.
I think every beach is sort of topless.
It's something.
Not everyone.
No, Miami is literally topless beach.
A lot of Europeans.
So the European beaches are the topless one.
There's one right near Sunny Isles.
And when we came, when we first got here from Montreal, a bunch of us lived in Sunny Isles. And when we came, when we first got here from Montreal,
a bunch of us lived in Sunny Isles.
And we took family, we went to the beach,
because we were very close to it,
and all of a sudden we came across a sign
which said you are now entering a topless beach area.
I don't know if it's still there,
I don't know if anyone's heard of it, but it was awesome.
Can you paint this picture, is this like you, Perry Hill?
Not Perry Hill.
Mike Hill, who else?
Larry Binfest, Claude Delorme.
Nice.
You were at the nude beach with Larry Binfest?
Andrew Dawkins.
I almost said Andrew Dawkins.
Andre Dawkins.
Andre, wow.
That is weirdly close, though.
Think about that.
I'm sorry, I just had a moment.
Andre Dawkins and Andrew Hawkins
are two letters from being the same name.
I feel better about this.
And we're both nicknamed Hawk.
Well, because that's not his name. Who's Andre Dawkins? Yeah, his name is Dawson. I screwed it all up three letters away from guys
Can we answer Zazz's question?
Did you go to a nude beach with Larry? Yeah, this is important topless beach. Let me help you out
Here's it was a top with bees. Did you go to a topless beach with Larry Bynfest? Yes
specifically like to see boobs
We didn't know it was there. Okay, but it's kind of weird that you decided to go to the beach with Larry Binefest. Yes. Specifically, like, to see boobs?
We didn't know it was there.
Oh, OK.
But then it's kind of weird that you
decided to go to the beach with Larry Binefest.
Yeah.
A regular beach with Larry Binefest.
I've never turned around to the beach.
We worked on the shoreline, and I was never like, hey, Chris,
let's go to the beach together.
And that's a topless beach also.
Yeah.
Isn't all of South Beach topless?
Am I wrong?
That's Chris Zagack.
Yeah.
Not really. That is not a thing. No one's ever going to say, hey, don't do that South Beach topless, am I wrong? That's Zagack. Yeah, I mean.
Not really.
That is not.
No one's ever gonna say, hey, don't do that.
It was.
No, I've been coming to Miami for 20 years,
and every time I'm on the beach,
people are walking around topless.
That is like such a normal thing,
and as a college kid, it does like, oh snap,
there's women here that are topless,
but then you realize it's Miami,
and all the beaches are pretty, they're topless.
It's exciting. They don't have signs.
It's not, you don't have to sign a waiver.
It's just what happens.
It's the first time I ever saw
an unscrambled pair of breasts.
With Larry Binfest?
No, at a topless beach in...
What do you mean by that?
Hold on, what do you mean by that?
Like they were over easy?
Unscrambled.
Porn was a lot harder to find
and sometimes you would have an illegal cable box. Discrampler. Unscrambled, I get it. to find and sometimes you would have an illegal cable box
descrambler Unscrambled I get it. Okay
We can make some of the stuff out. Yes
Wow can make out a nice channel hitting the side of the oh, yeah
So wait a second you had something that was blocking the parts on TV, but then you had another piece to like
descrambled that thing no, it's just that the channel was messed up.
It wasn't like specifically that.
You would hear them go, uh.
And then you'd be like, all right.
And then you'd say, oh God, that was a man's elbow.
And that would be a problem.
So you'd have, I mean, for some people it's a problem.
What did you think the man's elbow was?
The audio came through there.
That was a very weird.
Yes.
It was complete audio.
It was like, just, they would just scramble the visual,
but the audio was completely full on porn.
Yeah, piece of those days.
That's a crazy time that I just had on the television.
Had to work for it.
Channel 78, are you kidding me right now?
You had, it was Channel J in New York on the cable box.
J, you had letters?
Channel J.
Channel J, you had 26 channels?
What's the J stand for?
Exactly.
It was Robin Bird and Midnight Blue with Al Goldstein.
Ah, good times, man.
I don't know those names.
Remember the channel guide?
Or the TV guy?
Yeah, the TV guy.
Just scroll.
And then they started putting ads in the corner there.
And you just had to wait and just get the good advertising.
As a business mind, that was probably some of the money
well spent on media, because you had to sit there
and watch it.
Waiting for scores on ESPN2.
I wonder who won between the Orioles and Red Sox.
Let me wait around here for 10 minutes.
There's no other way to get scores.
There was a way.
There was a way.
9761313.
That's how you call to update all your bets.
From a landline?
From a landline, 976-1313, and every 10 minutes it would refresh, or you could go to headline
sports, Jerome Gerenovich, headline sports, and it would be at 22 and 52 after the hour,
and you'd get scores that way.
In New York, when you're in-
That was national, that was on-
Bumble, Pennsylvania, I don't know if we had that channel.
That's channel L.
Yeah, oh shit.
So one of the things that I've spoken to my kids about
to know of L, because obviously they don't care
and don't listen, but-
How many children you have, Sanford?
Three, 30, 27, and 22.
Yeah, boy, girl, girl, boy, three girls, three boys? Girl, girl, boy. Girl, girl, boy, who's the oldest, girl. Boy, girl, girl, boy, three girls, three boys.
Girl, girl, boy.
Girl, girl, boy.
Who's the oldest, girl?
Girl, girl, girl, boy.
I started with girl.
Girl.
You work your way down.
Is it normally backwards?
No, I was with you.
I don't know why he was confused.
I have twins, so I will say girl, girl, boy,
just because if I think of my daughter first,
I gotta think both girls,
and then go son, even though he's the oldest.
I've heard that some parents of twins
don't tell the kids who's older,
because it can create a dynamic
I've does definitely create a dynamic my wife is a twin and they know they get I've heard that there are twins out there that
Like they don't know which one's old. I wish I would have done that because it's like they the other one holds it over the other
Yeah, it's like Rob 17 minutes. Are they identical? No, they're fraternal. Okay
I was gonna ask like if they were identical when you like officially decided
Okay, this one is this one
and that one is that one.
Because early on for sure, first couple weeks,
it's like, I don't know, man.
You need a different color bracelet
for the newborn identical.
That's the only way to know.
You tag them?
Yes.
You have to tag them, like cattle.
It's part of it, man.
Well, you didn't have to do that with fraternal twins.
No, no, no, no, no.
Is it Schwarzenegger and DeVito?
Yes, yes, that's yes identical as an Austrian and yeah
Are you expecting to say one of his daughters are in shape and the other one is a fat meatball?
No, no, I think he's means height wise. I mean is it easy to tell him apart
I've got nephews who are fraternal twins and one is big and one is small one is Schwarzenegger one is to be there
That's not that it's not that much of a discrepancy I think one
is about there's ten and one is I think an inch and a half taller which is a
significant at David if your nephews were listening right now and one of them
heard you refer to them as Danny DeVito they would probably be a little insulted
well you're like they would have no idea they also wouldn't care
genetically like Larry Bynesteen. Bynfest.
Bynfest, Dawkins, who gives a damn.
You're having a name issue today.
I'm not.
I do not know or care about these people.
About Andre Dawson?
No, Andre Dawkins.
Was Andre Dawson at the nude beach with you too?
Yeah.
He's an adonis.
Whoa.
What does that mean?
Whoa, hold on.
Andre Dawson.
Yeah.
I just, yes, he actually is still very much in shape.
He's great.
He works out every day.
An Adonis?
He's got brand new knees, brand new hips,
brand new pillows.
You can't be an Adonis with fake knees.
That's what I'm, like, these are literal things
that you're saying.
You can't be.
I think you can.
Wow.
That is an insult to Adonis.
Bionic Adonis?
For like his, for his age group.
I guess.
He runs a funeral home now. You are hating on people with fake group. I guess he went to funeral home now
You are hating on people with fake knees. I'm not I think to my future
I'm not fading on those people I'm trying to appreciate the ones with real needs at the moment because I know that that will be my reality
Yeah, are there any body parts on you there? You're like that's gonna need replacing right now
They're trying to get better with ankle Are there any body parts on you that you're like, that's gonna need replacing right now?
They're trying to get better
with ankle replacement technology.
It's not- Seems like a rough one.
Seems stiff. It's not as advanced
as hip and knee, but my ankles are,
oof, they are, jeesh, it's tough.
It's tough down there, seriously.
Describe.
Well, there's really not any,
I would equate it to a shock system, right?
When you step down, the tip of your foot
eases your back heel into the ground and then lift off.
Mine kind of just like,
V5, 4 thumb because they don't have any of this anymore.
Unless I medicate, and I don't medicate anymore
because I don't have to play on Sunday.
Medication makes you able to step better or it just, have it not hurt you?
It basically clears up the arthritis,
the inflammation, and it allows it to function
as an ankle.
So it's not like Toradol, which is just the...
And Toradol as well, yeah.
I took Toradol my entire career.
Vitamin T.
Did you have tummy aches?
Um...
I've taken Toradol running and you get a bad, bad tummy ache.
I don't know.
I don't think you really, I don't think you,
I would have noticed.
I'm a football player.
Sorry.
God forbid that you feel anything.
I gotta go across the middle against Ray Lewis.
You think I'm worried about a tummy ache?
You think that's gonna be the thing that logs in my mind?