The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: What's The Point Of The Shadow Show?

Episode Date: November 14, 2024

Today's cast: Dan, Amin, Chris, Jeremy, Jessica, Mike, and Roy. What exactly is the point of this Shadow Show we've been doing? Seriously. Like...why are we doing this? Then, we kick off the actual show with Caitlin Clark choking on the golf course, the Sam Cassell big ball dance after Giannis Antetokounmpo's new celebration, and Amin's take on Erik Spoelstra's last-second blunder. Plus, are WE the liberal Joe Rogan the left has been looking for all along? Also, Info Wars has been purchased by The Onion, and Dan doesn't believe one football team can actually "out tough" one another after DeShon Elliot called the Dolphins soft. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Download Bumble and try it for yourself. It's the Chippin' Container talking to you on a Thursday. This is the Shadow Show. And what is that? That's a callback. That's what you call a callback. That's good nostalgia for legacy listeners, Jeremy. You don't get that reference? No, no, I know that reference.

I don't know what the Shadow Show actually is. Is or supposed to be. You know what? Let reference should have done. No, I know that reference I don't know what the shadow show actually is that is they're supposed to be you know what let's talk about that Let's go around the room and say what you want the shadow show to be. I mean you go first over oh Okay, I second that third. I don't get this. I don't I mean I know it exists in the podcast, right? Yes, so everything that we say does go to the big podcast audience So everything that we say does go to the big podcast audience. There's no visual cue to the people watching on YouTube, and most people probably just have us low in their office until they actually see something on the screen

and then they know to put the volume up. So that's the funny thing, because Dan bills it as, this is for the YouTube audience, the early arriving YouTube audience. But I'm not a YouTube consumer, I consume it via audio. It's in the audio. So this is basically the show, it's not a shadow show. It's in no shadows, it's out there in the light. It also started as like a little comment here or there

and a joke and then we'd start. But recently it's just, we've just been talking about Monday Night Football, the Sunday Night Game, and we're doing a whole segment. I think on Monday we played the clip of the Utah AD in the shadows. We did!

We did, we played video on something that we don't have video for. We're working more. You should see what Jeremy looks like today, but you can't, because this is the shadow show. You haven't lived until you've seen Jeremy Tashay make excuses for the Miami Heat while dressed as a Pop-Tart.

Don't do it with him. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Well, it's a shadow show, no one's watching. We're talking about what we're gonna- Orart. I'm just having reasons. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Well, it's a shadow show. No one's watching. We're talking about what we're gonna- Or are they? I don't know. We're talking about what we're gonna talk about.

And that is one thing we're gonna talk about on the show today. No, but talking about what we're gonna talk about would make sense. We're just talking about it when we do the shadow show. Like, none of what we do in the shadow show makes any sense. Because it was supposed to be like a minute of like,

hey, how's everybody doing before the show starts? And then it turned into five minutes and a topic. And then it turned into, hey, let's do an entire segment, but not on camera. So we forced our video team to start putting it on camera because otherwise we were all doing an extra segment of show for no reason that's not a shadow show because it goes on the audio podcast.

So we're just giving extra show for no reason. None of it makes any sense. We've broken Jeremy. Let me play devil's advocate here. What if the shadow show was kind of like in the batter circle? You're taking some practice swings. You're not actually at bat. We have our donut on our bat.

Oh, so like I try out takes here? Yeah. Here's a question. It goes out to the whole audience. To go one step further, why do we need it at all? Why can't we just start the show like we've done for a long time? Because the ad bats count at that point. No, you need some practice swings.

You've got to tune up the band. Shawn Michaels doesn't just throw a super kick. I mean, he might if Shelton Benjamin's jumping off the top rope and his surprise move, but he likes to tune up the band so everyone in the crowd knows he's powering up and that's exactly what we have to do. I have no idea what you're talking about. I understood all of it. Shelton Benjamin, Monday Night Raw. Shouldn't the audience know when the show starts?

Tuning up the band would make sense. I feel like the cast members. Man, Jeremy, you have no peripheral vision and this is going to be tricky. You're already talking over everybody, not getting cues. We should know when the show starts. Yeah, I don't, I often don't know when we're doing show. The show hasn't started yet. This is the shadow show. Except it's going when the show starts. Yeah, I don't, I often don't know when we're doing show. The show hasn't started yet.

This is the shadow show. Except it's going to the whole audience. Well, if there are consequences, we're on. The whole audience sees Aaron Judge take them bullshit practice swings at the batter circle. This is not the batter circle, this is BP. This is batting practice before the game. I disagree, this is AB.

This is an AB. No, this is not that bad. This is an official AB. This doesn't count. If we can get fired for what we're talking about, then it's show. You can get fired in the bounce circle. I used to go to Marlins games for BP.

Fans are around. So fans can see BP. If I start throwing middle fingers up and doing BP, I'm still going to see repercussions for that. There you go. That's a great example. Some people can watch it. The people that show up early, like for BP,

they can watch this. I've got all the middle fingers out and my pants are down. There are no consequences, at least visually. Sorry, Jess. But if I say something about a partner, then we're in trouble. Yeah. That's how it works. Another problem with The Shadow Show?

When do you end it? No, that one, I'm 100% with you. You know what? Let's end it now. OK. This is the Dan LeBattor Show with the StuGuts Podcast. Today's episode is sponsored by DraftKings. Stay tuned because you'll hear more about DraftKings and all it has to offer throughout

the show. DraftKings, the crown is yours. Executive producer Chris Cody, what would you start with today? Have you given consideration to the idea that you're running a show today that is made and built for America? You don't know what The Shadow Show is, even though you're supposed to be governing that, and everyone seems to be confused about what it is that I want from that.

How would you start the show today? Would you start the show today with Deshaun Elliott calling the Dolphins soft? No, I would start it with Caitlin Clark being one of us. Oh! And if she can shank a golf shot, anyone can shank a golf shot. She's playing.

I thought you meant she also didn't like the shadow show. She doesn't know what it is for sure. But she was at some Pro-Am tournament, and she's got a gallery full of people around her. And she shanks one. She hits a low dart right in the crowd. And then the scary thing is she re-tees. She takes a ball and goes right back to the tee,

and you can see the gallery, like, oh my god, she's going again to start to move back. There was no part of her that did the, oh my god, I'm sorry! She's just like, damn, all right, let's go back at it again. It really hammers home all those points they were trying to make in that public,

or he finds out about, maybe she's wired a little differently, you know what I mean? I don't know why you said that she's wired a little differently. You know what I mean? I don't know. I don't know what you mean I was about to say this was an LPGA pro and that she played nine holes with Nellie Korda Who's like the best golfer in the world? So this is the the shot we're showing it right thousands of people around her so many people she was signing autographs for like I was gonna say hours, but it probably wasn't hours

It wasn't like Dan at the Vegas shows. It was slightly less time than that, but there was a ton of people there to watch. Oh my gosh. Yeah, that's dangerous. And look, right back into the pocket. Yeah, she's like, oh, my bad. Not even on my bad! Not even my bad.

There wasn't even like a, you're supposed to raise your hand like, sorry, right? I almost killed Placido Polanco shooting a shot just like that. Placido? That's a sentence. Yeah. He was playing golf That's a sentence. Yeah. He was playing golf with Chris Whittingham and I,

we got paired together, and then in the back nine he just dipped after almost. Look at me moving. They're almost getting one in the temple. One of these days I wanna go to these Tahoe trips. I just wanna see it, I don't wanna play. No, this was actually in Mikasuki. Oh wow, okay.

I'd like to go on one of them too, but right now they're just golf outings for Mike and Stugats to spend a lovely time in Tahoe. I think we'd all like to go on one of them too, but right now they're just golf outings for Mike and Stu Gantz to spend a lovely time in Tahoe. I think we'd all like to go on those. Chris, when you're saying she is all of us, are you simply saying that in that instance, because you're not, in that instance, I feel like all of us would have done something similar, which is you are now basking in the shame of everyone's watching you and you are an embarrassing failure.

What you've done, you don't embrace that, you don't apologize, you just give me another shot so I can correct this. Give me another shot, I'm going to stare down at the T and I'm going to just line it up again because I'm so ashamed. All of you are watching and I just did something terrible in front of you. To her credit, she piped the second one. So with that pressure, it didn't get to her. That might have been a breakfast ball for all we know.

Was that the first hole? It's gotta be a breakfast ball. But she choked. She choked, right? I mean, look. Look at that. I'm a decent golfer. I have felt the first Tahoe shot I ever hit.

I'm not used to a gallery. So even though Kaitlyn is used to this, it's just that when you're hitting a, like you're used to swinging alone and all of a sudden there's a thousand people watching. When Sue and I take our exclusive golf trip that is not at all to make content and no invites are invited to anybody else in the show and I step over that hole on 17,

oh, my hands are shaking. Thankfully I'm two for two and I haven't killed anybody. Nice. Ray Romano almost killed me. Ray Romano hit me really close to my midsection. Wow, you got Contact yeah, like hit my inner thigh my thing for weeks on it Ray Romano joined us They talked about how their extended family Ray Romano drilled I don't know why Chris Cody said my midsection. He almost hit him right in the balls, right?

I was trying to avoid that word mid sections like not near the balls stomach No crotch is what I should have said you said almost like what you did You could have said balls you put us so further away from what we were doing cock Testicles, but I was picturing like a kidney shot bollocks or like a stomach like internal bleeding cuz I hit you in the stomach He hit me in my upper inner thigh made it seem like a kidney punch grapefrupefruits. Midsection, I feel like I'm not super wrong on this. It's a lower body injury if it hits you in balls. Midsection's an upper body injury. Huevos.

All right, let's analyze this for a second now, because if we're doing midsection, he's technically right, because midsection is under the nipples to the knees. That's the, that's the, whoa. Why is he hedging? Why is he being careful? He knows exactly where's the goal. Really? Thank you, Dan. But why is he hedging? Why is he being careful? He knows exactly where he got hit.

I didn't want to say balls or the cock. Okay, but what you ended up. There it is, you wanted it and you got it. I didn't want it, no. You shouldn't be saying that one. Look, that's where it hit me. I didn't want it, it's a strike zone. Midsection, the problem with what you did is

you were so afraid in today's America of saying the wrong thing, and I think that's the way we should be going. I think you should just run from all the Rogan boys. Just run screaming and scared because you can't say balls anymore. Because that's how down the middle Chris becomes a lefty. Wait, are we the liberal Joe Rogan?

Wow! Chris Cody. We were the liberal Joe Rogan the whole time. Every time I saw that tweet, I'm like, we've been that! That's right, but now Joe Rogan's people are throwing rocks at us, and Chris has to run scared and makes it the midsection, and makes it so geographically confusing

that now no one knows where he was almost hit when the funniest place that he could have been hit is where he was hit. Hoo-ha place that he could have been hit is where he was hit Who huh? Who has a good one? Technically? He is correct I guess it was your midsection, but it was not really a great descriptive word considering where it actually hit you I hear midsection and I think you're hitting the abs That's what I think exactly that when I think midsection Because I'm being literal here and I'm, exactly. When I think midsection, because I'm being literal here

and I'm doing strike zone, when I do midsection, it's nothing under the hips. But technically, if we're doing the body in thirds, the midsection has to go from knees to nipples. That's almost, although, you guys saw what Yannis did last night to celebrate his three point shot. Did you see this? I did not see this.

Okay, Sam Cassell did once upon a time the testicle dance. Yannis is a child and he was more overt and so he just did a long swinging penis by putting his elbow at his waistline like he's got a giant penis. As midsection. Right, and. I think it meant cock.

Dan, I think what you just uncovered is a new segment called Loopholes, right? Like what he did was hit the loopholes because if you don't know, the big ball dance that Dan is referring to that Sam Cassell used to do was popularized by the movie Major League, Pedro Serrano, right, was running around the bases and he was kind of juggling two large,

invisible testicles as he rounded the bases. Didn't Eddie House also get fined for that? Eddie House was the one, I think, was the straw that broke the camel's back. Like, we'll allow Sam Kasell to do it. Yes, once Eddie started doing it, then it was a problem. So, this dance has now been banned by the NBA. You do it, it's an automatic fine.

So what Giannis did is he said, okay, you said no shirt, no shoes, no surface, nobody said anything about pants. I'm walking in pantsless. You said no ball dance? Hey, I never jestered balls or showed balls. All I did was point my arm low to the ground and let it swing back and forth.

Hey, maybe it's just my hand is dead. I mean, the detail that actually gets him out of trouble was he did three fingers at the end of the tip. So it just looks like a three point celebration, but he's definitely mimicking a giant penis. Yes he is, because he's kind of pointing at it as it swings back and forth, he's pretty proud. It's got inertia to it.

I'm with Amin, his hand could be asleep. Then he's just trying to get the blood back into it, so he's just like, ah. You ever do that, Dan? Ever have your hand fall asleep and you just kind of shake it between your legs? Did trying to get the blood back into it. So he's just like, ah. You ever do that, Dan? Ever have your hand fall asleep and you just kind of shake it. You shake it. Did you just say the blood black into it?

Is that what you said? No, he didn't. That is, that is. No, no one heard that other than you. I'm pretty sure that's what he said. Joe Roggenhardt. The video that I want to keep showing people is not just the Sam Cassell dance,

but I also want to find the Eddie House dance because the Eddie House dance, because the Eddie House dance is where the Balls dance went to die. But I feel like Giannis crossed the line, and it's not because I'm being sensitive. There's a lack of subtlety in this. There's a lack of subtlety in this celebration that makes it not offensive to me as a cultural purist,

offensive to me because it's a lame celebration. It's not, it doesn't have the subtlety I need to, to have a, you know, a wiggling noodle as opposed to balls, as opposed to a more subtle, the more subtle dance that Cassel got fined for. We are not liberal Joe Rogan, because we didn't lead with aliens. We led with Caitlin Clark. Who's an alien? The new Netflix documentary? Is that what you're talking about? No, I'm talking about what happened in Washington, D.C. yesterday where a government official

said we collected non-human biologics from a crash site and a military person said, we're not alone. We're just not. There are other living beings in this universe and we have to come to grips with that. But yesterday was a big news dump, so it kind of got lost in the shuffle. That was the big news out of Washington yesterday. This is exactly what the government wants. You guys talk about other cabinet members. Meanwhile, we collected alien DNA.

And so we're not going to do top cop Matt Gaetz resigning from Congress and evidently to avoid ethics committee report that will make top cop or would have made top cop the guy who was allegedly trafficking in young people over state lines. Like we're not going to talk about any of that right? No we're not. To do that would make us the liberal Joe Rogan. No I think we should stop talking politics and stick to sports. Well I was saying before of Caitlin Clark when it is that Chris was talking about just

shame and embarrassment, I told Amin before the show that I missed him yesterday because the thing that happened at the end of the Miami Heat Pistons game that triggered a lot of arguing around here and I don't think that Billy is wrong when he says people should have perspective. If you lose game 10 of an NBA regular season it shouldn't haunt you for the rest of your life and the reason I know that I missed a mean yesterday is because I'm just certain that he agrees with me having lived in the furnace facility that is competitive basketball that it's going to be very hard to find a coaching mistake any of us have ever

seen in that sport as embarrassing shocking and haunting as that one where you're the buzzer beater mistake where the coach makes the buzzer beater mistake that just ends the game because you're in your stewing in your own shame and shit in the middle of the court and spoh i've never seen him look like he lacked confidence more, shrinking inside himself as he, like tail between his legs to the sidelines

because he realized what he had done. I mean, he realized that he had cost them the game before anybody else realized he had cost them the game. I've seen Spoh in many a post-game press conference, including playoffs and the NBA finals. I've never seen him look that devastated and and what it is is exactly what you're describing. It's a lot of times you lose a game you're like well the game wasn't lost on that play we could have done

this better than the bad better but he knows there's no other place to point the finger. You pointed out yesterday it's not that he didn't know that didn't have any timeouts he just like from the moment they're in that huddle, talking about, hey, remember we don't have any timeouts, to what happened on that play that made him so furious that it was almost like a knee-jerk reaction. Like in the cartoons back in the day, they hit you with the hammer on your knee and then you just kick. That's exactly what he did.

Bullshit happened on the court. Yeah, instinctually call the timeout because that's exactly what he did. Bullshit happened on the court, ah, whoosh. Yeah, instinctually called the timeout because that's what I do. He messed up, but it wasn't, I know this is hard to believe. In his mind, I think his mistake was, damn it, Terry's still in, he's going to screw this up.

Damn it, it happened, no, Terry, timeout. And then instinctually called the timeout that he didn't have, but the mess up was, like personnel wise, he didn't get it right. You know what's funny? They could have taken a delay of game. Like, he could have just walked out onto the court, and they would have called delay of game,

because you get one warning before they hit you with the automatic, but again. Can you make a sub after a delay of game though? Because that would be an unfair advantage. No, I don't think you can. Yeah, I'm sure the competition committee was like, someone's gonna exploit them. Well, they had six people on the floor,

so it was up to him, it's not actually a sub, it's like, oh no, that guy's a bad deal. That's how you do it. Yeah, man. It's a game within the game, Dan. It's a game called Loopholes. Giannis won that game the other night. Spoh lost the Loopholes game.

Your thoughts beyond that though, because the part about this that was so interesting to me, having watched this building across the street is a military complex. It feels like a military facility. What, Pat Riley's basketball military facility across the street, where if you were to walk in there, it would be a bunch of people walking around from science lab to science lab to get into better shape

because they got the cult over there that builds whatever it is that they build that wins basketball games to watch at the end of that game somebody who came through the video department and is now one of the five people who runs that multi-billion dollar organization to watch in real time someone who learned with stan van gundy and pat riley how to be a crazy person about winning to watch him sink into i'm a control freak

who knows he controls only about ten percent of what's happening once i give the basketball away i'm a control freak when I'm at maximum rage What am I gonna do time out the power comes right to me? He was so enraged by everything that had happened there that he grabbed his maximum control freak at a time where they were You know had to be shouting from the sidelines. Hey, you don't have any timeouts left You've just gone you've lost your mind because you wanted control again. And the way you do it for 17 years is by stomping out on the court and saying,

game's mine now, everybody get over here. And you did it at the impossibly wrong time. Yeah. Stu got more muscular. Mm-hmm. I have lost 10 pounds. Have you? Yeah, using my Peloton.

I've had the Peloton in my house. So my daughter, she wanted me to get a Peloton. I did. She used it a couple of times. Yeah, great endorsement. But once she left to college and the Peloton was just sitting there in my office and it wasn't being used, I said, you know what?

I got to use this. And I have lost 10 to 12 pounds, Billy. So I started using Peloton as a bike. Obviously, that's what they're known for. But recently, I discovered all of the other classes that they have. They have a series of weightlifting classes, they have programs which for me the programs is great because I don't have to think about what I'm doing. If not I

just go and I pick a class at random and I don't know that I'm actually accomplishing anything. I would like some recommendations on classes because I keep going to the same class. Okay. It's the Grateful Dead class by the way. Do like a four week core program with Emma Lovewell. I would recommend that one. Okay. Anyone can do that, any level starts out easy and then you work your way up. And then there's like a core program two that you can do after core program one if you wanna do that.

Yeah, if you graduate. Wait a second, you have to graduate course one to get to course two, the harder course? Well, you can start a course two if you want, but I eased my way in, I did course one first. Then you can do some strength classes with Andy. Love a strength class with Andy, it really puts me through it. I get up and I'm like a sweaty mess. And I can do some strength classes with Andy. Love a strength class with Andy. He really puts me through it.

I get up and I'm like a sweaty mess and I'm kind of disgusting and I love it. You know the thing about Peloton Stugats? What? Peloton coaches, they walk the walk. Really? Yeah. Do they talk the talk?

They have sub three hour marathon runner coaches. They have military trained athlete coaches, former college basketball player coaches and so many other well roundedrounded coaches on their team. All this experience really shows in their classes that you're never short of challenging. You can do some resistance band classes. I got some resistance bands lately.

You're my teacher. Am I? Yeah. You know, no, I'm not. Well, I just go with the program so then I don't have to think because I don't know, I don't actually know what I'm doing. Anyways, what's the like Mr. Olympia, right? Is that what it's called?

Yes. The one where you go and you're like lifting Tony Atlas. Giant boulders. Yeah. Hey, we should talk to Magnus again. That's Mr. Olympia, right? Is that what it's called? Yes. The one where you go and you're like lifting Tony Atlas. Shining boulders. Yeah. Hey, we should talk to Magnus again. That's Mr. Olympia. Yeah.

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that sort of foretold everything that's happened in America since, that that person, through what he was doing, could deny things like school shootings, to have him in the middle of his, what used to be his empire that birthed this nonsense that's happening in America right now.

That went viral because he was watching auctioneers wander around his facility, putting tags on what had value because he owes so much money for his conspiracy theory doing that has fried the brain of America. Like that's what was going viral yesterday, was him sitting in the middle of what was an Infowars empire watching auctioneers go around and put tags on the things in his studio that had value and you're telling me that the Onion has now purchased that facility and all things Infowars?

That's Secretary of the Interior Alex Jones, so just watch what you say. Watch your mouth. I don't even know if you're playing or if you're real right now Jess. That's the scary part. Right? I don't know. You know the, I'm sorry I know we said we were going to talk politics. The secretary of defense one is the one that blew my mind.

He got a news host. Like, and look. That's the one that blew my mind. That one doesn't even register anymore. Honestly, that one does blow my mind. I'll tell you why, here's why. Because I can hear people say, oh, that Matt Gaetz thing, that's a conspiracy,

he never did any of that, that's just a liberal media. I can hear them say that. What I cannot hear is any actual explanation that a TV host should be the secretary of defense should be in charge of generals and armies and and the Pentagon I cannot like that's the part is there not a line for them over there them bar there across the aisle to say, hey, hold on, what the, are we doing? I think we're long past that point. But Lee, one, they got it all.

You have it all, right? No, you have it all, it's yours. What is it about aliens? Do what you please, but not that. You guys just want to ignore, we collected DNA that was non-human. Who cares? And I don't think they meant a parrot

was at this crash site, okay? There was a crash site, whoa. There was non-human DNA in this crash site that we collected, and you're over here talking about shanked golf shots and attorney generals. None of that matters, we are not alone. What form of DNA do you think it was? Green person.

Not what kind of, I'm saying what type of DNA from the green person was it? Because when I hear DNA at a crime scene, I think one thing and one thing only. Are you suggesting that this is? Yes, that's what he's suggesting. I mean, what voice was that earlier that you just did? A bane, not a good bane though.

That was a bane? Yeah, the, do it because you please. I thought it was pretty good. I tried, boy. I thought it was pretty good. I tried, boy. I thought it was Sean Connery. Wow. Did you know that Christopher Nolan says the sequence that he's most proudest of in his career

is the opening sequence of Dark Knight Rises? I believe it. Man, that's a great sequence. They expect one of us in the Wreckage Brother. She's such a better Bane than you. I know, I didn't say I was good at it. How dare you go in front of her Bane with that Bane though? That's the Master Bane.

She knows. Master Bane-er. She's got, she's got a different Bane though. A better Bane, the best Bane. It's also different. It's not just regular Bane, it's Bane with an edge. You keep crafting your bad Bane character. Okay, keep working on it.

Bad Baney, none of us knew why it is that he, bad Baney. I mean, seriously, like, what about the bomb exploding in Oppenheimer? I think that that's more of a cinematic achievement. You think bad Bainy was bad. I got whispered in my ear, won't give away. Who said it? Desmond Bain.

What is this, Bain capital? Jeremy said that to me, too. We're keep talking about Bain. As if we couldn't tell who told you. As if we all couldn't point at the Pop Tart and know Wait, who told you? Who the bad pun came from. But the open of that movie was so good

that I remember where I was. I remember what seat of the theater I was in when I watched The Dark Knight Rises. Hot takes. Not even the best opening sequence of Christopher Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy. The Dark Knight opener is great. It's so good.

Where he robs a bank. Oh my god. Spectacular. Is Glenn Powell in that scene? I think he is, yes. God, he's hot. Was he People's Sexiest Man or is it John Krasinski? John Krasinski.

I thought I saw that Glenn Powell was People's Sexiest, and then a day later. Liberal Joe Rogan says it's Benny Blanco. He read that somewhere. The internet not happy about Krasinski. They're like, what is this, 2014? That's what the internet's saying. We're still efforting for that video, by the way.

I am here though, wait a minute, that was Alex Jones. That's an, wait a minute, wait a minute. I am here. It's all I got, it's limited. No, but I know, I know, but don't run away from me yet because I want you to craft two impersonations for me because it's not even Alex Jones that I want you to perfect.

The one I'd like for you to perfect is the internet. You speaking as the character of the internet is what it is that I want. I want that character to burst to life and just be swelling, covered in boils, and just be an acid pit of here is the sound of the internet. What does the internet sound like? Does it sound like a Russian Alex Jones?

I've given you guys the voice of the internet for years. It's whiny, it's oh my God, that's the internet. What are you talking about? See the problem is I went straight from internet into Alex Jones so I already forgot how I did the internet. I gotta go back and like listen to it. Oh I'm the internet, was it something like that? No that's a means, that's the same.

That's Chad GPT I think. Okay this is from the New York Times Dan to give some Context it says the onion said the bid was sanctioned by the families of the victims of the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School who in 2022 won a 1.4 billion dollar defamation lawsuit against mr. Jones and his company free speech systems every town for gun safety and nonprofit dedicated to ending gun violence that was founded in the aftermath of the Sandy Hook shooting will advertise on a relaunched version

of the site under the onion. You know what? They missed a great opportunity. They should have bought it anonymously and kept running it as if it's still Infowars, but just infiltrate it with more and more ridiculous stories just to see how far people will believe. I was going to say that Amin is a classic critic,

hater, second-guesser, because he immediately gets information that is indisputably clever about the darkest of humor. The idea that the onion would be able to purchase, with the sanctioning of the families because in the search of helping the families would purchase this uh... this joke of a thing that change the way that the american news coverage happens because people were believing in conspiracies

the idea it would happen in real life and that i mean would say you could have used that power to then turn Infowars into something else by working in the shadows and not telling people you were the onion. That's even funnier somehow. That Infowars just overnight becomes satirical, and it takes several months to be able to tell.

I don't think that that's the height of dark comedy. I think the height of dark comedy is just giving that information while a Pop- pop tart sits next to her. I was hoping that at some point today, he would have some very serious commentary while dressed as a pop tart. Oh, don't you worry, I can do that whenever you want, Dan. Yes, I know you can.

I do know that you can. Do we want to talk at all about the Deshaun Elliott story? Yes, oh my God, Dan, the Steelers have safeties that are talking shit, they have wide receivers that are acting weird, we got a pass rush, we have a run game, the Steelers are so back. Your enthusiasm is fun because you've got a deep passing game, your offense is no longer constipated. The Steelers actually, people have been questioning how good the Steelers are for a few years But because of the improvements they've made recently that include a coach making a really ballsy quarterback change

people are thinking the Steelers are more for real because they have deep ball possibilities and pickings than they have been and I'm inclined to put down some of my doubt just because maybe Tomlin can get a little something out of Russell Wilson, but the Deshawn this story though You never see this story, correct? Where all of a sudden all over the locker room in in dolphin land Reporters are spread out asking everybody every single person in the facility. Are you soft? People who do that for a living wandering around talking to the dolphins asking them are you soft and I thought That Javon Holland had the best response Which is just like it's just empty noise until you've named names go ahead and say that Javon

Holland is soft and it go ahead and put names on it Otherwise, you're just a guy yapping to get attention and go ahead and put names on it, otherwise you're just a guy yapping to get attention. The reason that this is a story is because he's accusing them of something that everyone has accused them of. This has been thought of as a softer defense. So it's like, if he had called them bad tippers,

I don't think that this would have been a news story. It would have just been like, oh, they're probably not bad tippers. He's probably just, but he said exactly the thing that they are criticized for being. So it's definitely gonna be something that they're asked about. Barry Jackson was just touching his nipples

when that sound got heard. The part that I'm objecting to is. Besides that? Yes, beyond the Barry Jackson touching his nipples. Is who among us is calling anybody in that sport soft? Like what are we doing? What are we doing? Hold on.

I would never do that. On a spectrum. I would never see Blaine Gabbard flinching in the pocket and say he's soft, never me. Nope. An entire team calling an entire team soft that you're no longer on in that sport. Just the defense.

Look, we can talk about how they're built for finesse. You trusted Alec Engel. We can talk about them being built for finesse. We can also talk about them being fast. I thought we were all of the understanding that when you go fast, you're gonna give up size, you're gonna give up physical. The way that they play football is

not to out tough the next guy. You guys really believe that out toughing is often a thing in the NFL? All the time. Yes, out physicaling, 1000%. The Ravens, the Steelers, they're more physical. Not out physicaling where you have, no. Not out.

Isn't that like a synonym? Well no, you're making them synonyms. I am not. When you say someone's soft, it's not because they're too weak-minded to actually conquer you with their strength. It's because they're physically not strong enough. When you're getting manhandled, when everyone in the league is getting manhandled by the Lions offensive line

or on the tush push, the Eagles offensive line, it's because Lane Johnson is stronger than everyone in the league. Not tougher, physically stronger than every single person who's across from him. And so was Kelsey. Okay, I guess if you peel back the layers and you get down in the nitty-gritty, I get what you're coming from. And he did say mentally soft, which is a distinction. But I think that you can look Miami is a team that's built for speed and finesse. And they made offseason choices that only leaned more into that.

So I think that you can certainly deduce that there are teams that are physically tougher than the Miami Dolphins. Is he doing a cold weather thing? Maybe. Perhaps. I believe that cold weather people are tougher. I believe that.

Well, then we all agree with him. Rust Belt. That's what they want to believe. Wow, all right, we might be liberal to Rogan. Put it on the poll, please please at LeBotard Show. Are cold weather people tougher? Yes, I don't think of my, can I say this about Miamians?

Do I think of Miamians as tough? We are not tough. I am not tough, and my father came down here particularly because he's not tough. In fact, my father said, why would I ever want to die a hero? I'd rather live as a coward. I feel, there are tougher, there would I ever want to die a hero? I'd rather live as a coward. He said that.

There are tougher, there are people that are tougher in South Florida in certain actions. I'm saying generally in Kendall, not the toughest. I feel like this is a confidence that comes just for playing for Mike Tomlin and the Steelers. You go to Mike Tomlin and the Steelers, you just instantly feel tougher than everybody else. He's looking around and he just, the uniforms we wear, the way our fans wave those towels,

we're tougher than you, that team's soft. Mike McDaniel, too quirky. Let's examine this for a second because Kendall is the hood according to Alex Rodriguez. Alex Rodriguez. He did grow up in the hood with me. In Kendall. We both grew up in the hood.

I wanna talk about this for a second because the examination of a sports entity and us thinking those people seem mentally not tough those people who are doing that thing for a living that is pretty difficult I find it pretty consistently exasperating that any of us would do that but when a person who has lived in that world comes out of the locker room and gives voice to it Even if people don't know who this person is all of a sudden it becomes. Oh, this is a way to talk about the Dolphins This is interesting. Let's run through the locker room rubbing our nipples and ask every single dolphin Hey, you guys aren't tough, right? This guy said you guys aren't tough

When they're halfway through a season that breaks all of those bodies, like all of them are limping through that facility and that's the question they're being asked midweek because we need the content. To what literally said at a press conference, I don't care, I love it to the death of me. That's right, his brain, that's right. The guy with the brain problem in the middle of that is saying, yep, I'm in the middle of this

and I'm giving my brain to the cause and you think I'm not tough. Dan, I think when we're talking about this, we have to clarify. Like Chris said, it's a spectrum. Like to us, of course, it's like when NBA players say, oh yeah, how many points have you scored in NBA? You're not comparing to me.

If you were, you wouldn't be in the league either. The comparison is against your peers. And so these are peers talking amongst each other. It's like if Steph Curry told Klay Thompson, you're not that good of a shooter. To Steph Curry, he's not. The rest of us, obviously, he's way better than anyone we've ever seen in our lives.

So when they say this, when Elliot says this, he's saying it within the, like you can't say, those guys are walking around hurting stuff. Of course he knows that, his team's doing the same thing all right Let me play the sound for the audience so we can hear this in his own words, so this would be fun This would be very fun. I haven't been I haven't been able to Play against Baltimore the way I wanted to because last year I played up for a team that was soft I mean oh my god. I can't put that on there. That was pretty soft the guys on team

There were some guys who were tough, but like for the majority of the team, there's not mentally tough individuals. So to be on a team with a full team of mentally tough guys going against another mentally tough team and AFC North ball, you know, it's going to be fun, man. I have told this story a couple of times and I will tell it again just because we're all in agreement, right, that Ricky Williams as a football player was pretty tough, yes? Yeah.

Some would say mentally wasn't tough. He couldn't do it. He didn't quit on his team. Right, okay, so the reason I asked the question is because the image of him gets distorted. I always thought that he was too gentle a spirit to exist in that world but he you know had more rushing yards in anyone in the history of running a football in college and then get to the pros and did the trades always draft

picks for he's walking through the raven locker room and he's saying with ed reed and ray louis in the room i feel like a rabbit among wolves that those two people are not built in any way the way that I am built, but Ricky Williams was tough enough to carry a ball 400 times a season in that sport and, you know, go looking for Roy Williams in your secondary because he wanted to bully him. He was tough enough to do that.

So I ask you, why do you think that you can hit a football team with so many different personalities with an allegation like they're soft at football? I'm a little confused because I think even Ricky Williams, while we all admit, is tough. He's admitting that there are degrees of toughness. Agreed, but that's a team locker room right there. Yes, that seems what happens.

I don't doubt that the Dolphins are tougher than us, but I don't think that they're tougher than the Steelers. Dan, I'm pretty sure like, Terry Rozier was the best basketball player in middle school that he ever played against, probably in high school. In college he was really good. And then you get to the pros and you're like, oh shit.

There are a lot of people who are good like this, right? Like Zachary Risarche of the Atlanta Hawks said this other day, he Europe I was the most I thought I got and here I'm just a dude and so perhaps when it comes to Ricky Williams yes he's tough in high school yes he's tough the toughest in college but you get to the pros and you see Ray Lewis he said really oh no I'm not tough like that not like that I'm tough I'm not tough like that so you tell me who we could look at in the NFL because you guys are doing a different thing that I'm willing to do What's that? I'm not looking at the Philadelphia Eagles when they're physically mauling everybody on both sides of the front of the ball

I'm not looking at that and saying they're tougher than everybody I'm not looking at that and saying they're tougher than everybody. I'm looking at it and saying they've got a number of physical gifts that work together that are physically stronger than everybody. I think there is a ceiling on tough on people who play those positions. They say of defensive linemen for example, they say of offensive linemen they're the guys who can put your refrigerator together. The defensive linemen are the ones who would tear it apart with their teeth everyone say that everyone there is tough yes like that the defense the thing that is said in that sport in terms of the difference between the two positions

is one has a mentality that tears things apart the other has a mentality that puts things together builds refrigerators and this is a thing they say frigidaire the offensive lineman builds refrigerators, and this is a thing they say frigidaire The offensive lineman build refrigerators you and I should know that we love fridges William the fridge Perry Dan Mike McDaniel's response was also very funny. He said I just worry about this year's team He said it on a podcast cool podcast This is this is manna from heaven for Coach McDine. This is, you know who they're playing next?

This is chum to throw at the locker room. The Raiders. And the Raiders, historically, tough. The autumn wind. It's a pirate dam. It's man from heaven is what it is. Man, I'm going to out tough you. It's not man out front.

It's not, so you guys, it just. There are tougher players in the league, dude. I don't know what to tell you. I think, I look at James Harrison, I look at Willie Williams, I say, yeah, James Harrison tougher. Now you may argue, well, he's bigger and stronger. And I will say, good point. That's what makes him tougher, Dan.

I would argue that nobody listening to this would argue that the Chiefs won the Super Bowl for the reasons that had to do with toughness. That is a tough defense. Chris Jones would like a word. Yeah, Chris Jones, tough. Yeah, really. Physically strong, unbelievably strong. I mean, if we're just doing a weather thing.

Pacheco's tough, wait, there are bigger running backs than I think of Pacheco. And no one, really in the league, can replicate his running style right now. He's unique. So how do you explain that? That's not just a physical attribute, Dan. He's not bigger and stronger than everybody else

at the position. He's tougher. I'm still doing a weather thing here. I think that the Chiefs won because they were mentally tougher when it was negative 30 degrees in Kansas City. They were mentally tougher on that blocked field goal last weekend. They were mentally tougher on that blocked field goal last weekend.

They were mentally tougher. You're moving the goalpost here, Dan. It's just like, you mentioned the Chiefs. We give you examples of guys that are tough. No, thank you. You gave me examples of guys in football who are tough. Yeah, Pacheco. Yeah, I can't believe, how did you possibly come up

with examples in football of guys who are tough? I don't know what you're doing. You're saying they're not tougher, they're bigger and stronger. Okay, agree to disagree, I think that makes you tougher. No, what I am saying is, let's go ahead and do it. Let's do this right now. Let's go through the recent champions

and you give me the champions that you think won because they were tougher. Like, you give me, where that was- The Philadelphia Eagles, a quarterback by Nick Foles, they were tougher. And that was a really tough team that they went up against. But in the trenches, they were physically tougher and dominant. And I think toughness is an attribute that you can assign to them. And you know why they were tougher?

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