The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Local Hour: You Better Shape Up

Episode Date: November 14, 2025

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New York, New York, please do not share with anyone under legal drinking age. Mare enough. I mean, I don't like having, obviously, genuinely embarrassing moments with anybody, but I don't like having them with co-workers especially. And I just had something happen to me this morning that is the most embarrassed I've been with a co-worker since I came out of this room holding a gift from Izzy Gutierrez that was a Christmas gift that I didn't know was a Christmas gift.

And I just asked in front of Izzy Gutierrez, does anyone want this? Like, I just asked everybody this because I didn't, I didn't, I came back from vacation. it had still been in the office. I didn't remember that it was given. And so that feeling was conjured for me today when very innocently, and I can be oblivious. I looked at Jeremy and the light blue sweater that he was wearing, and I said, what punishment are you serving today? And I wasn't trying to insult him. I was asking the question genuinely because Mike confused me yesterday by being Pete Carroll by just wearing a Raiders hoodie. And I didn't know he was serving a punishment when he came in from the way that he was dressed. It was a quarter-tip. So the Izzy story, you should be embarrassed and ashamed, that is awful because there was something done in a moment of tenderness and thoughtfulness, and you very dismissively say, who wants this, right? Asking Jeremy, what punishment he's serving is hilarious. God, my God. It was pretty funny.

But I felt. Is that a punishment, you said? Dan, don't sell yourself short. Just moments later, you asked, is a mean in today while he was sitting directly in front of him? I was like three, maybe two and a half feet away from you. Yeah, but that's not the same as asking whether Amin was dressed in a form of penalty. And no, that's just the sweater that Jeremy chose. So that question, the question's offensive.

It's an offensive question. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. The craziest part about it is I came in today feeling really, really good because when I was walking from getting my Starbucks, I'm walking through the U.S. court area. And a cop, a cop stops me. And he's like, hey, sir. And so I'm like, oh, oh, no, did I do something wrong?

Did I jaywalk, whatever? And he goes, did I jaywalk? And he goes, hey, man, big fan. I love that sweater. It looks great. Where did you get it? No joke. Love that sweater.

Where'd you get it? Tell him, oh, hey, over at the Heds Arena. So then I walk over here, I walk into the Elser. And I've got, yeah, he did say big fan. And I've got, for sure, trolling. Okay. And I've got headphones. in. I've got headphones. And the concierge looks at me and she goes, like she points at her ears.

And so I take out my headphones and she goes, oh, I love that sweater. Where did you get it? It looks great. And I said, wow, you're the second person who said that to me today. Thank you so much. I came in here all excited. I get compliments from multiple people when I walk in. And then Dan walks in asks me, is that a punishment? Lorenzo Butler was happy up until that last part. I texted Lorenzo. Miami, E.P.R. Because I know Dan doesn't like it when I say names without explaining who.

Let's talk about Ethan's dog again. That was a good idea yesterday. Percy, Percy, come on. This is the Dan Levator show with the Stucats podcast. We're at the time. of year where I think Tony and Jeremy are going to have to put an electrical collar on Mike to keep him from talking about the University of Miami and yelling about committees and rankings and the SEC. So we will get to some college football stuff here in a second. But before we do

that, because the dolphins are playing the 930 game in Spain this weekend, I was simply curious as these reports come out that Miami, that the dolphins, a team that haven't been relevant this century are going to Spain, that they want to be America's Latin team, that they want to go to Spanish countries and do what Jacksonville does with London, where you lose home games, but you're sending your product overseas and you're making your fan pace more global. Should fans treasure the home game experience so much in football when you only get eight or nine of them that you want to be xenophobic and say, no, I want the home field advantage. in the AFC East of not playing a game over an ocean.

I don't care if it sells the game globally. I don't think that makes you a xenophobe. That's strong, I think. Walk it back. I just wanted to use the word xenophobic. I know you. I know you came out of nowhere. Put it on the poll.

Put it on the poll at Levitarch. They just want to use the word. Is xenophobia a good word? Is xenophobia a fun word? Yes. Yes or no. It doesn't make you a xenophobe, but there are plenty of folks who do. Do not want their home games, I would assume, don't want their home games sent overseas,

especially if you have a season ticket package. Right. But to be clear, that doesn't make you a xenophobic. That just makes you a football fan. You should get a ticket in Spain. If you have season tickets and they lose a home game, you should just get a seat. I think that they do have some kind of priority when it comes to those games. You know what's better than a home game?

A fun road game that you and all the boys travel to. I know Mike. I know Mike loves that. I know Chris loves that. Hey, we're going to go all of us to Spain. Sell it to the wives. We'll be hanging out in Spain for a couple of days. All of a sudden come back trip, honey. Exactly right. That's better than a home game. Home game. What do you? Walk into the tailgate. I see the same guy. You know how many sporting trips I've just said to my wife it's a work trip?

Exactly right. Like taking candy from a baby. What age do you think that you'll grow out of that? What age are the children? There is an age where one grows out of that, correct? Lying to your wife? I'm still looking for it. Not lying to your wife, but going on the boys' trip where you're not tired of the boys. That was your last boy's trip, Dan.

Yeah, good question. Was it New Orleans, smashed potatoes, my dad's hair? No, no, there were a couple of Vegas trips, but yeah, it's been a minute. The reason that I was, I don't do very much of that. Come on, Dan. The reason that I was asking the question, though, is because at some point I did grow out of that. It's why I was asking, because all of you seem eager. about the boys trip and I'm like at some point you grow out of that what was the boys trip that made you say enough this has never happened well Vegas does this

Vegas's expiration date with me is like five or six past these particular trips where I'm like excited about going on the trip and then after the trip I feel pretty gross about myself and all the best kind and all the choices that I've made your decisions though it didn't have to do with the boys right you and the boys got made things happen you made bad decision a little post boys trip regret ah Put it on the poll at Limitard show. Ah, a little post. A little post, boys trip regret. Boy's trip regret. Ah. Yes. Exclamation point.

But you throw Vegas in there, it makes it even worse. Vegas and Miami are the dirtiest American cities to do that in, right? New Orleans would like a word. Oh, yeah, New Orleans. Excuse me, yes. Yes, I'm sorry to have offended New Orleans. Jeremy, I again apologize for what happened with my oblige. this morning. That sweater was a choice you made. I've not seen that sweater before. I did

genuinely ask you if it was a punishment of some sort you were serving. He looks like John Travolta after he's like made the turn and he's going to prove Olivia Newton, John. Hey, I'm a good guy after all. Good. That's what I want to look like. Guys hot. Danny Zuko. So a reverence from the 1976 for Big Greece. Chris looks at the picture behind me and goes, boy, you look fat in that picture. Pat McAfee. Before we get to some of the Miami stuff, I just did want to ask you because I feel like Tony totally aged out on your Greece reference.

And this doesn't actually happen very often with my wife, who's younger than I am, pop culture bridges aren't a problem with us. But the other day, I mentioned something. And she didn't have the context for what it was. And, I mean, I'm wondering how many people. in our audience don't have a familiarity with what the Harlem Globetrotters are. The reason it came up is because she was looking for something and she found that Madison Square Garden,

that the Harlem Globetrotters are going to be playing Madison Square Garden. I was shocked by that as a traveling basketball circus that they still are able to command full arenas. And she thought the Harlem Globetrotters were a real team. And so I sort of had to explain to her what they were. Do you think there are many people in our audience from sports who don't know what the Harlem Globetrotters are? My kids know who they are. I think this is a, do you like sports or not?

Your wife is not the biggest sports fan in the world, so I think it's understandable, given the age and the lack of interest in sports. Now, older people, our generation, we remember when even if you didn't know anything about sports, there was a Harlem Globetrotters cartoon, and there was like, there was everywhere. It was everywhere as a cultural piece of America. The wrestling circus for basketball in 2025 seems like a really outdated thing to be able to fill Madison Square Garden. Phil is a relative term. Like, it's not going to be 19,763 or whatever, the number they always tout over there. But this is the dirty secret about every arena.

The worst thing you can have is a dark date. So they'd rather have 10,000 people show up for the Globetrotters than turn the lights off and say, we didn't have anything happen today. Remember when the Globetrotters played Michigan State? Yes. They lost to Michigan State. Michigan State snapped their over a thousand game win streak, but then in 2003, the Globetrotters beat Michigan State. Magic Johnson, I think, played in that game.

Dan, how did you explain to Valerie that the Globetrotters never lose? Well, yeah. Hey, they go around, but they don't lose to anybody. Well, this sent us on a video hunt when she's like, what do you mean they don't ever lose? I'm like, watch. These defenders are clearly in on the whole thing. The Washington General.

Oh, wait a second. Speaking of line to your wife. you should have made a bet with her. Hey, I got the... Yeah, I got the Globetrotters. Speaking of bets, Tony, what are you leading this Sunday with a group of people? Lewis is very worried about this. Now these are stakes. These are stakes that make me uncomfortable because Lewis keeps muttering that he needs the money, and I just don't like the feeling of that around me. I believe he said, my kids need Christmas.

Yeah, like, and so this is a $5,000 bet, and you guys are on the Chiefs. The Chiefs, minus three and a half is where you got the number. I'm really scared of that half point. I'm really scared of you guys getting crushed by that half point. That would be better, though, right? Like us getting crushed by the half point would be better content? Well, it dramatic is what we needed to be. You guys really feeling the suffering of $5,000 on the line in a game.

I really think that the Broncos are going to miss Patrick Sertan the most this weekend. Like, they really need that player for this game. to be able to alter the things that Kansas City is doing. But the idea that they're calling that a must-win game for the Chiefs when people don't feel like the Chiefs have played an important regular season game in how many years? A lot, right? And they've kind of got two back-to-back really important regular season games, especially in the AFC.

You look at the AFC West this weekend with the Broncos. If they can beat the Broncos, there's a little tiny path for them to maybe sneak in and win the division. Next week, they've got the Indianapolis Colts, which is a massive game for kind of the hierarchy. of the AFC in general. But yeah, Dan, Sunday night, Sunday afternoon. It's going to be dark though at 425.

But we're going to be live streaming, me, maybe Chris, Jeremy, Roy, Lewis, all of us sitting in the cheap seats, hoping and praying that the offense you said was dead will come alive one more time. When you say the hierarchy of the AFC, okay, I believe there is not an analyst in the country for all that we cover football that had the Patriots as the best record in the sport this late in the season. I don't believe there's an analyst who thought, I don't believe there is a single person out there who analyzed the AFC East said those are going to be some easy games in the AFC East. And the Patriots are going to have an MVP chant at quarterback. They're going to have the hottest young thing you want, which is the combination of they've got a 23-year-old quarterback who we know is going to be good. And they've got the wonderful delight that sports fans treasure so much is we're the surprise.

We're the underdog surprise. People haven't even been talking about us all season. They've been talking about the Colts. They've been talking about the Colts as the surprise of the league, and the Patriots have the best record in the sport. Dan, I'll do you one better. How many people had the Patriots having the best record in their division, let alone the whole sport?

Like, just haven't been a better record than the bills. Give me somebody who had this. Give me, for all the analysis that we do on, who's a good team, who's a bad team, and we do it every week. Can you guys find me somebody? because at least I heard Dominique Foxworth saying he'll be on with us later before the season. Hey, the Colts are going to be really good. Everyone's got this wrong on the Colts.

I didn't hear anybody saying that on the Patriots, even as I heard plenty of people saying Drake May's growing as a quarterback and is going to be a good quarterback, but not MVP good. Not they're going to surprise everybody in the sport good. I'm sorry, I found an article from NFL.com published in August by Ali Bonpourri that had them as a second seed. New England was a very vogue pick to make the playoffs and be the team that ascends in that conference. First seed with home field advantage, hard press to find anybody that said that. You look at Drake May and what he was doing last year, and there was already kind of glimpses of, oh, this guy can be really good if they surround him with decent pieces.

And then going into the year, they didn't really make any tremendous moves on the offensive side of the ball. You look across at their weapons in the wide receiver corps, and you're like, Stefan Diggs is coming off in ACL, he's okay. They got like Kashan Booty and Mack Hollins and Hunter. or Henry and it's like I don't know if this team can be that good on offense and then all the sudden Drake May has just kind of the rising tide that's lifted all boats there and it's just really good can we call Drake May a liar or is it too early too early to say that which part was he lying about Drake May when he said when they asked him about like developing the chemistry with

his receivers and he said he's been watching them since he was in middle school well let's let's let's hear Drake May in his own words because he was talking about Stefan diggs Stefan digs is you know the receiver that he's going to 100 yards for. I think a lot of us thought that Stefan Diggs was also spent. I think a lot of us thought what Tony was saying, that, Mac Hollins, you're going to, you're a Hunter, Henry. What the hell are you guys going to do with that? It's not going to be MVP chance.

That's not what we're going to get. So let's hear Drake May talking about when he started developing trust with Stefan Diggs. Is the trust that you have in Stefan Diggs something that's built up over time, or do you feel like you had that right away? No, that trust was built up. probably when I was in middle school when he was playing in the league

it was long ago guys like him and Hunter and Mac you trust those guys for what they've done in this league and I just try to give him chances and you know Steph and you break a couple of tackles getting the end zone

but you know those guys you know chicken thine I don't think he knows what trustings no chance nowhere in the world is watching Mac when he was in the middle school I'm listening to him this chicken design

my chickens have He could have been choked way too many times. I think you should listen to him. It's right. His first season was in 2017, so he's going to be watching. Catacose. The game film. He was 13 when he was watching Stefan Diggs.

He was 13. I don't believe that that's when they developed chemistry and trust, though. Trust is a two-way street, Dan. So you got to build the trust one way, right? So he's like, oh, damn, I'm 13, but wow, Stefan Diggs, a good player. And then when he finally meets him, Stefan Diggs trusts the other way. It is a two-way street. Absolutely right.

Trust is not a one-way street. I trust you, but do you trust me, Dan? It runs both ways. And so, yeah, at that time, Stefan Diggs was not thinking to himself. I hope this 13-year-old kid could be my quarterback. It feels like everywhere you turn these days, there's another fee. Buy a ticket, there's a fee.

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Stugats This is the Dan Lebatte's This is the Dan Lebatar show with the Stugats I do believe that most people watching North Carolina football knew Drake May was a special talent. And when it is that you see Caleb Williams or others go through the bumpiness of playing right away, Drake May's arc has been a fairly amazing one in that his success has been linear. We've seen him grow. They suffered for a little while.

And now the stats are before Vrable got there, the Patriots had. won nine times in 38 games. Now they've won nine times since Vrable has gotten there. Like that, they got it all fixed because they're fixed at quarterback. And we can talk about their skill guys, but that's the skill guy that matters. And to have it be a surprise from a pick like that when we all saw that coming in college. Like, we know he's a special player, but I don't think that anyone had him taking MVP from Josh Allen in the chance. Like, I did not have that happening. Not this fast.

That's not this learning curve. The numbers on Drake May are crazy. Like they're, he's putting up unprecedented combinations of numbers. Yeah. Per opta stats, and you mentioned, Dan, the versatility for Drake May last week, his mobility as well. Over 2,500 passing yards, over 250 rushing yards, over 20 touchdown passes, over a 70% completion percentage, over an 800, Winning percentage. No other quarterback in NFL history has put up those numbers over any 11 game span of starts in any season in NFL history. I don't think this is that surprising.

It's Mike Vrable and Drake May. A lot of people rated both those guys super highly. This is what Mike Vrable does. For the life of me, Tennessee is a freaking mess. Terrible decision. You have the greatest underdog head coach ever, and you have a guy that was dynamite in college. This makes sense. This makes all the sense on the world, actually. But the thing is, to Dan's point of the speed of it, they lost to the Raiders on opening day, and the Raiders are terrible, right? Like, you look and you juxtapose

the two ways that both of those teams have gone, and at the beginning of the season, you're like, oof, all right, Vraves is going to get off to a rough start losing to a Raiders team that maybe could be good, and now we look at them, and they've won eight out of those... But Mike says it's not a surprise, not a surprise, and look, the dolphins came very

close to beating them, and at the time, when we were talking about what assessments of the teams were the dolphins were viewed as a team that should win that game against the Patriots at home. And while you're right about the reputations of Drake May and Vrable, it's two consecutive four and 13 seasons. And that's the MVP of the league that's been at the top of the division for a while. It's one thing to think that the Patriots are going to be the two-seed or they're going to be good. It's another thing entirely to say, whoa, the moment they beat the bills, did they just take the division from the bills? Because

everyone around here is saying now the windows closed on the bills. So the Patriots get two years of suffering while the dolphins get 22? The Patriots get two years of suffering after Tom Brady and Bill Belichick and the dolphins in the same division get 22 years of suffering and now ship off one of their home games to Spain or somewhere else so those xenophobes can enjoy them not playing in Miami. A handful of people set the windows closed on the bills. A handful of us think that's absurd. I saw just on the television moments ago, that betters are saying the bills are still top five in terms of how it is that the money goes that viewed as one of the top five. That's a youth thing too. You got to expect like there's an

ascension here that comes with this Patriots team and Drake May. Yes, this is a great start. You're going to be really important in this conference for a decade. But this takes time. They are, they are a flawed team, put a little bit more talent around the quarterback. In the playoffs, we're all, we know the bills are going to be favored. Not that that matters. They were favored when They played New England earlier this season, but these typically don't go the way where second-year guy just claims the conference from both Mahomes and. Oh, but my larger point is because of the way the Patriots are playing football through, as you correctly identify, coach and quarterback, the streak they've put together is unusual

of number of times they've gone over 23 points, and a number of times the defense has held opponents under 23 points. So what they are is a balanced thing in that Raiders game that Tony talked about. They lost 20 to 10. Since then, all they do is put up 20 plus and they just don't allow teams to score very much. So they have the balance that you want that is really hard to undercut. I understand that anyone that goes against the chiefs and the bills and the Ravens probably are going to feel like an underdog. You're not going to trust any of those teams until you've seen them get past the teams

that you have seen do it. But they're way ahead of schedule. They're supposed to be a suffering process that lasts more than two years before you get to just take the division back. It took the bills 17 years to take the division from the Patriots. I think when you look at it from a conference perspective,

like one quarterback can say they took it from Patrick Mahomes and his Joe Burrow. until proven otherwise they run shit but you look at two on the other side of the conference in the nfc jaden daniels was a rookie and all the sudden completely barnstormed through everybody in the in the nfc got to the lions who were one of the better teams the nfc hopeful super hopefuls and destroyed them too obviously ended up losing to philly but that's another team that was like out of nowhere boom coach quarterback everything linked up and obviously this year they've been hurt but that's kind of another example Oh, but seeing, here's the thing, though, and I'm sure that this is happening to others.

This is not just happening to me. That Washington thing happens and then collapses, and I'm less surprised by it than I would be if it happened in these uniforms. There's something about seeing this running around throughout my football nightmares for 20 years, owning the sport, where I'm like, oh, that's not going to have a regression. That's not going to have a quarterback who goes the other way. Maybe he gets hurt. But it's not going to, he's not going to suddenly be C.J. Stroud. He's not going to go from MVP chance to what happened to C.J. Stroud. Like they have the organizational infrastructure. The Gerard Mayo hire was a disaster, okay? And they got out from under it. He's the one who came, the guy who came after the guy. And so for two years, he takes the beating. But Vrable's already won as much in 11 games as they won in the 38 before that. That's crazy. I think Mayo might have just had one year. It's crazy. The dolphins did nothing. with like the three and a half years, Assima's down. They didn't do nothing.

Like, they had the best offense in the sport. It just, they couldn't play in the cold. Are we sure that there's no regression possible that it's just going to be up and up and up forever? I'm just saying that I'm less, I don't expect to see it in that uniform. I've got whatever the post-traumatic football fans' feelings are on. That uniform does things successfully for 20 years. That organization isn't going to screw up that they've got the young quarterback. How much legacy is pulled over?

How many of the people that were around for the dominance are around now? I can't be the only one doing that, right? I'm not the only one. When I tell you that and I say, what do you expect from this? Like all of you look at what happened in Washington, you may be surprised. Maybe you're surprised that it is collapsed because you expected Jaden Daniels to be as good. But having seen it happen in Houston and Washington, I feel comfortable based on just the uniform saying it's not going to happen here. There's not going to be a regression here at this position.

Maybe he gets hurt, but he's playing in a way that's all up. It's upticking at the normal amount of speed. The thing with Jaden Daniels that I didn't understand and still don't understand is how the hell do you come in the league and be that good right away? Like, that's not that somebody has to learn that position. You can't just come in here and be immediately great and your team wins 11 or 12 games. And I'm like, how the hell did that happen? This has been the way the progression's supposed to work. I watch a first round pick, get sacked, get sacked, develop pocket presents, and all of a sudden,

and oh my God, the feel that he has in the pocket. He knows exactly when to run. He's done it enough now through college and the pros where this is only going to be a cent from here. Where's it going to get worse? They're going to get him better skill guys. They're going to build around him and the running game. They're going to get draft picks that make sure

that support all the things that he does well outside of him getting hurt. Where does this derail? Don Lebatard. The judge coach, sweetie. Stugats. I should say hello. This is the Dan Lebatar show.

with these two gods. So Elliot Wolfe is the executive VP of player personnel. He's the final decision maker. He joined, was it, two years ago. Then Ryan Cowden joined them from the Giants this season. And then Matt Groh, who's been there a couple of years as well. I would say that this organization, other than Robert Kraft. Well, Vrable, though.

Vrable's a bridge between all of these things, though. So then we're giving the credit to Vrable. And, you know, if that's the case, then why wasn't he more successful in prior stops? Because he's got a better quarterback now than he's ever had. My point is, Dan, I don't think you could say that organization, when it's like nobody there was around other than Vrable, and it's not like that information traveled with him. It's not like San Antonio or Miami, or it's like, no, it's the same people the last 25 years running it. I'm well, I'm more inclined to believe that organization in terms of giving them trust.

In this case, I feel like they just got a good quarterback, and for now it's working, but I wouldn't afford them any kind of extra trust. I mean, I don't know about that because when you talk about Vrabel, he's the culture setter, right? Tennessee was a laughing stock before he got there. He got there. All of a sudden they went to the ASA championship games. He leaves there. Now they're a number one pick laughing stock again, right? So he takes all of that culture setting, players coach, all those things.

And Josh McDaniels has been the play caller successfully there before. That's an important piece too, right? Like working with a guy who's been a seasoned veteran offensive coordinator who's worked with Brady, who's worked with great quarterbacks. This is why people criticize the dayball hire or firing because they're saying you need consistency in the relationship between Jackson Dart, the young quarterback. And he's got a feel like he's got stability behind him. This is why I think the Bears thing is going to work. works so well because you're going to get the growth from a young quarterback who has the

confidence and security of the young coach who has stability behind him. Before we do any more pro football though, Louisville plays Clemson tonight and Mike is now just watching football games rooting for things that help Miami. I feel like that's all you're doing. Yes, I'm rooting for my team. But tonight you're rooting, you will watch this Louisville game because at this point, you're watching in order to just see bowling pins toppled that help support Miami's case. Now, I want to hear, Chris, what is the name of this CFB chairman who is speaking here and is talking about the University of Miami's chances and the idea of Miami controlling its destiny because they look at schedule not conferences?

Mike has been telling you for a while now. I don't know how much of this is happening nationally because I still hear Feinbaum, ignorantly, talking about the University of South Florida as if he thinks the SEC is some men. special thing that doesn't allow for other schools outside the SEC to have talented players that are just as talented as the ones in the SEC. But I feel like all of the shine is off the SEC, that we all know that Texas and Oklahoma, oh my God, they were going to go over there and make it so good. No, they're just running around in uniforms that you expect to be good, but they're not appreciably

better than 30 other teams that you've seen in the sport this year. Louisville, I thought, could beat just about anybody. But they lost to California when they got injuries, and injuries can derail anybody. They shouldn't have and wouldn't have lost to California, if not for the injuries. But you can't trust Clemson to take them out tonight, can you? It's a tiny spread, and Louisville just lost as a 20-point favorite to Cal without Isaac Brown. So Isaac Brown is a hugely important player for them. He's a big-time threat.

And the ACC, it's tough in this conference. I know it's viewed as a punchline when other conferences beat each other up it's not viewed the same way. Dabo's teams, whenever they meet this adversity over the last few seasons, they tend to really get online

at the later part of the season. So I'm curious. I certainly want Clemson to win. You can already kind of see what the committee is doing with Miami Louisville, Notre Dame. Miami's head-to-head argument

against Notre Dame, it loses a lot of its luster if Miami is ranked ahead of Louisville, when Louisville defeated them. So you want Louisville out of the way. We have the CFP committee chair, Mack Roads, talking about where Miami stands right now with the committee. Miami, you know, I think, Rich, you said it.

You know, we had some teams lose. And again, you know, the conversation with Miami has been, you know, about their consistency, their consistency, especially on offense. They've been really, really good, you know, on defense. Obviously, you know, the head-to-head with Notre Dame comes up. And, you know, so a lot of conversation about Notre Dame, seven straight, you know, better defensively than what they were at the beginning of the year. So all of those things played into it.

We've got great respect for Miami. You know, when you think about the eye test, they're really talented, both sides of the ball. Just need to be a little bit more consistent on the offense. I'm sorry, he said his name was McRoe. Mac Roads. Oh. Oh, I was like, Macro, that's a great name. All it took was one week in college football.

November's kind of crazy. And there's a lot of discourse about Miami's offense. Miami's offense this season has a legitimate shot to be the second best offense they've had in the last 20 years. It's just behind Deerick King and Rhett Lashley's Miami offense. It kind of fell apart towards a tail end of the season. Who could forget? Who could forget? Deeric King was pretty good.

He was. It was. And then Giovante Williams and Michael Carter ran each for 200 yards against Miami. I think one of them ran for 300. When you look, I mean, you were making the Cash Patel face for some reason while that conversation was going on. I just can't believe that we are headed to the possible scenario that I'm about to put in front of you, which is Notre Dame and Miami have the same record. Miami beats Notre Dame, but Notre Dame losing to Miami gets them more credit than Miami gets for beating Notre Dame. That's crazy.

You got it. But that is it. That we are headed to them having the same exact record. It will kill me. Mike's going to have a stroke. I will die. I will have an aneurysm. So Miami wins the game against Notre Dame.

It's not fair. But that doesn't count for anything. But congratulations, Notre Dame. You lost a close game to Miami. You get to play in the playoffs. You did it early enough in the season that it doesn't matter at all. We're going to penalize Miami for beating you by not. giving them any credit for this whatsoever when they have the same record as you.

But Notre Dame, hell of a loss. Way to go. We're all about Notre Dame. But, again, I think it goes back to kind of like quality losses. Like, Notre Dame lost a good Miami team. That's right. And they also lost to Texas A&M, right? Like, they lost their, the other loss.

It's not the head to head. It's the other loss. Bad losses undo good way. Yes. Mike is going to die. All right. Shut up. Losing to SMU is not a bad loss.

You know how many losses? SMU has in the ACC since they entered? Three? Well, that's in the ACC. One. They have one loss. They were 11 and one last year.

They were a CFP team. That's not a bad loss. Shut the fuck up. Number two. Louisville is presently ranked. Number two. Louisville is presently ranked. It's not a bad loss.

Shut up. The reason, the reason it is a bad loss, Mike. The reason it is a bad loss, Mike. It's because Miami did it. It's because Miami lost. It's because Miami lost. It's a bad loss. I'm glad we're still being reasonable two weeks later.

Texas losing the Florida, not a bad loss. Not a bad loss. The reason. I jumped on me last week because I mentioned something that happened a season. It goes, oh, do you know how the seasons work? Now it's like, the reason it is a bad loss. Okay, Michael. The U.S.S.F went there.

Texas couldn't. I'm going to try and fail probably to remove some of the emotion from this. The only reason that they are bad losses is because, in both games, Miami was a double-digit favorite in both of the games. I understand what you're saying, that SMU, Miami is absolutely being punished for raising the level of expectations to where Miami teams were in the past. But when you lose as a double-digit dog, what is- They weren't a double-digit favorite against SMU. The line fell to eight and a half right before kickoff. Yeah, Dan. Alabama loses as a double-digit favorite all the time.

Dan. You know, pick up a paper. What do you want me to do? Pick up a paper. All right. A newspaper? Well, they lost. It's a double-digit favorite.

Teams loses a double-digit favorite all the time. Well, Notre Dame has not. Notre Dame has not. They lost! They lost! They played a game. Notre Dame was favored. They lost.

But not as a double-digit favorite. Oh, my God. They were an underdog in both the games. What would happen if Notre Dame played Miami? I don't know. I don't know. If only I had recent history to go off. It was a long time ago, though.

Notre Dame would be favored. Notre Dame would be favored if they played Miami. They were favored in last week of August, and they lost. And Miami controlled that game. That opening drive of the second half. Oh, Dan, that opening drive to the second half, Dan. Moving the pile. Why play anybody non-conference?

Why play anybody non-conference? They played Notre Dame, USF, Florida, beat them. They have difficulty in their conference because it's a tough conference for Miami. They've been to the ACC championship as many times as Notre Dame has. Okay? They've lost four games in the last two seasons. None of them by over a score. Notre Dame's losses are to Miami and by one point to the number three team in the nation.

Miami's two losses are to the 20th ranked team in the country and an unranked team. That has to mean something. It does. What is SMU's record? We were just told that it's about the resume. And the resume, while a better win, obviously, for Miami, beating Notre Dame. Sure. If the entire premise is wins and losses don't matter.

We're looking at the resumes and deciding who the best teams are. Who is it? It becomes Notre Dame. Okay. Not based off my logic, based off the logic. The CFP has shown you for over a decade. Why? Why?

Why? Because they beat USC? Let's flip the resumes. Let's have Miami lose to Notre Dame by the same amount, and let's have them lose to Florida by the same amount. Notre Dame is still going to be ranked ahead of Miami. Let's have Miami win that Louisville game. Louisville and USC are ranked right around the same place.

Notre Dame has played three teams that in their conference are a combined 0-N-18. They're not actually beat. They're just winning games, and people are forgetting that they could be beat. If I flipped the resumes, you'd be making the opposite argument, so you better shape up. I would not. I would not.

You shape up. Don't tell me to shape up. You shape up. He's got a shape-up. Hey, everybody, meet my friend Jack shit. He needs a man. Better shape up. Yeah, there you go. He gets the reference. The thing that is

funniest to me is I genuinely believe that Notre Dame with two losses should be ranked as the number one team in the country because the most impressive thing done by anyone this season is Notre Dame came close to beating Texas A&M. That that's the

that they should get more credit for that than Texas A&M gets for winning that game. Notre Dame should get more credit for losing the game than Texas A&A. It's so dumb. This is not new. This is insane. This isn't new. Why are you surprised?

They played! They played a football game. It's not the first time this has happened. They played each other. I'm with Dan. I like this. You should get more credit for almost winning. They look great against Navy.

Then you do for... Boy, they took it to Purdue. The committee should make Notre Dame favorite against Ohio State because did you see how close they came to beating Texas saying? I'm so close that I think they're better than Texas. Imagine if Miami had a close loss to Notre Dame? The whole thing is insane. I think God, Miami lost their dumb one earlier because they actually have a chance now. Because if they lost their dumb one at the last game of the season like they did last year,

they wouldn't have had a shot. This part's great, right? Chris Cody looking up, okay? Everyone's talking, droning, college football head committee member is droning. And Chris Cody is just saying, oh, it was a long time ago. They pick a Notre Dame. I don't remember that long. It's the gummies.

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