The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Monday Hangover: Maye Be, Maye Be Not

Episode Date: October 14, 2024

Stugotz and Mikey A are really nervous for the Monday Night game between the Bills and Jets. Does Mike McCarthy survive the season? Nick Sirianni is the sole Winner and Loser of the week. Would you ta...ke Myles Garrett if it meant you also had to take Deshaun Watson? Lucy stops by after her trip to Oregon for the game against Ohio State. Lucy thinks Ryan Day's job will depend on the game on against Michigan this year. What is a bigger game this Saturday: Bama/Tennessee or Georgia/Texas? Billy gives his BBBBBB with some help(?) from Mikey A. Do the Patriots have a quarterback in Drake? Maye be. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:32 See rules at website for participating area and other important details. Sponsored by Diageo Americas, Inc., New York, New York. the game. God bless football. Billy Gill. God bless football, Mike. God bless football, Fuentes. God bless football, Stu. Yeah, we got a big one tonight. The Jets
Starting point is 00:02:03 and the Bills coming up. Billy looking forward to that. Mike is excited. Mikeys excited. Mike E.A. already said we're gonna lose to the Steelers next week. I have no idea why he's at next weekend already. Wow. Because I'm preparing myself for the pain. Well done. Preparing my body for pain. When you go and you lose to the Steelers next week,
Starting point is 00:02:18 are you coming in off of a winner or a loss? Good question. We'll find out tonight. Big game tonight. Game for the season. Game for the season. Billy question. We'll find out tonight. Big game tonight. It's a game for the season. Game for the season. Billy's right though. It's a
Starting point is 00:02:30 different mood if you're going in first place. Right. Yeah. Totally is. Plus you can handle the loss if you win tonight. If you lose tonight, that loss would really end the season. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But you're declaring this tonight. The
Starting point is 00:02:44 game for the season. Jets and Bills. Game for the season. Wow. Game for the soul of this team. Well, hold on a second. So, it doesn't matter if you win or lose next week. Sure it does because it matters how you go into next week. If you go in and you lose next week but you won this week, you're like, alright, we're we're we're we're we're 500 since Oldbrook took over. Yeah. But if you lose this week, the season's over. So, it doesn't matter if you win or lose next week. Yeah. I regret going to you with this because you're all over the place with it.
Starting point is 00:03:09 I gotta be honest with you. You should. Hey, Lucy's going to join us today. I'm looking forward to that big weekend. Gotta get that out of the way real quick. So everybody knows not to tune out. Okay. Thanks Billy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Very big weekend in college football had some great games. It was a good NFL weekend as well. But college football, had some great games. It was a good NFL weekend as well. But college football is super interesting. We might just have to resign ourselves to the fact that Vanderbilt is good. I mean. I don't know if I'm there yet. I will say this though.
Starting point is 00:03:35 It's a good loss. Guys, guys, this is a magical Monday. Yeah. Okay. Like this is the first Monday, early morning, late afternoon, whenever you're consuming this content. Army and Navy are both ranked. like this is the first Monday, early morning, late afternoon, whenever you're consuming this content. Army and Navy are both
Starting point is 00:03:50 ranked. They are. Army and Navy are both ranked. Yeah. And look, I'm not going to say it. Never mind. Let's just say it. No, no, please say it. I was going to say. Yeah. And I would never, I would never, you know, say we should be going to war still. Yeah, it was a great that's a bad one. Bengals and Can I can I you guys explain something to me because I don't based on what you saw last night, but that team is very, very good. Thank you for the cover, Joe Burrow.
Starting point is 00:04:48 Can you guys explain something to me, because I don't understand this, and I didn't think, there's a number of ways we started this show that I didn't think we were gonna start this show, okay? Yeah, sorry. Explain this to me. How can we be living in a time where you have kickers who are making kicks that you never saw made before,
Starting point is 00:05:04 in terms of distance, right? But also kickers that are routinely missing kicks that seem like they should be made. Greg Joseph missed both of his field goal attempts yesterday. Yeah. Not to say that they would have won the game had he made those kicks, but how do kickers just keep missing kicks this year?
Starting point is 00:05:22 I don't understand, but also we have the best kickers we've ever had at the same time. Yeah. I don't have why the kickers just keep missing kicks this year. I don't understand but also we have the best kickers we've ever had at the same time. Yeah. I don't have an answer for you. I mean, I don't. I understand what it is you're saying. I understand why it is you're confused. I don't
Starting point is 00:05:36 have an answer though as to why it seems like kickers can, you know, routinely hit like 5560 yard field goals. They can do like a 70 yard field goal. They get in like a 70 yard field goal now and then they miss like a 34 yard gimme. I don't understand it. Um I don't either. Joe Burrow can scoot.
Starting point is 00:05:52 He can't scoot. Uh what'd you guys make of Nick Siriani uh yesterday? So the the Eagles. Loser. Oh my god. Really? Cuz the Eagles got the win. The fans were getting on Siriani. Uh Siriani, you know, brought it up to the fans, walked over to the fans. I'm gonna say this to you, but I'm gonna say this
Starting point is 00:06:05 to you, but I'm gonna say this to you, but I'm gonna say this to you, but I'm gonna say this to you, but I'm gonna say this to you, but I'm gonna say this to you, but I'm gonna say this to you, but I'm gonna say this to you, but I'm gonna say this
Starting point is 00:06:13 to you, but I'm gonna say this to you, but I'm gonna say this to you, but I'm gonna say this to you, but I'm gonna say this to you, but I'm gonna say this to you, but I'm gonna say this to you, but I'm gonna say this to you, but I'm gonna say this
Starting point is 00:06:21 to you, but I'm gonna say this to you, but I'm gonna say this to you, but I'm gonna say this to you, but I'm gonna say this to you, but I'm gonna say this to you, but I'm gonna say my kids face and say things oh listen Stu got school of broadcasting but I mean dude what a jerk this is uh this is the earliest that we've ever gone to this segment but it is winners and losers presented by smirnoff please drink wow we're going this early huh we're going this early because on this week's the winner of the first year and off the field. Please drink this. Wow. We're going this
Starting point is 00:06:47 early, huh? We're going this early because on this week's list of winners and losers, I had one name and it was Nick Siriani. For both and after a big win for Nick Siriani, he did win. He did win. Yes. And he he you know, talking maybe
Starting point is 00:07:04 on the hot seat a little bit there. Yeah. Huge win over the towering one and four Browns. Exactly right. The one and four Browns who have yet to score 20 points in a game this season. Huge win for Nick Sirianni. So, yes, it was a big win for Nick Sirianni. Yep. I have him listed as this week's loser
Starting point is 00:07:22 and winners and losers presented by Smirnoff, the world's number one vodka, please drink responsibly. The rare loser who won. They barely beat the one in five Browns as we previously stated, who, wow, the Browns. They're bad. In a bad position. They're just in bad shape.
Starting point is 00:07:38 It's not that they're bad, which they are, but they're like, I don't know how they get out of the bad. Right. If I'm Myles Garrett, he jumped over someone yesterday to block a field goal, which led to, I believe they're only touchdown of the game. And I don't understand why he's even jumping over people at this point.
Starting point is 00:08:01 If I'm Myles Garrett, I'm just like, yeah, whatever, kick the field goal, I don't care. I'm not gonna hurt myself jumping over someone. What a waste. I heard this question, and I'm curious what you think. If the Browns called your team and said, we'll give you Miles Garrett for a second round pick. But the caveat is you also have to take the Sean Watson and his contract. The answer is no.
Starting point is 00:08:23 Oh, his contract? The answer is no. It's a bad look and you have to take Deshaun Watson and his contract. The answer is no. Oh, his contract, no way. The answer is no. It's a bad look and you have to take on the contract. Okay, let me ask a different question. How about this, the Browns call you and say, we'll give you Miles Garrett for nothing, but you also have to take Deshaun Watson and his contract. So you're not giving up a second.
Starting point is 00:08:42 You just get him, but you have to eat that contract. How about we remove Deshaun Watson from the equation and the Lions call because they lost Aiden Hutchinson and they say, Hey, we'll give you a first round pick for Miles Garrett. But you gotta keep Deshaun Watson. We don't want one. Right. The Brad Deshaun stays with the brands. That was an area.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Yeah, no, that was the that was the part that made the situation. I'm already saying now it's things that involved Deshaun Watson. He hasn't passed for 200 yards this year. That's crazy. Winning can't be that important where you would even take Miles Garrett for free. You get what I'm saying? What? Like winning can't be so important that you would take Miles Garret in a sweetheart deal.
Starting point is 00:09:27 Winning can't be that important to an organization where you would take Miles Garret and take on to Sean Watson's contract. That's what I'm saying. You have to separate the two. You don't take on to Sean Watson. Well, no, that's why it's a fun hypothetical. Yeah, but I don't think it's a fun hypothetical. Your situation is just, hey. I think it's a stupid hypothetical. Aidan Hutchinson's got hurt. Should they trade for Miles Garrett? Like who says no?
Starting point is 00:09:47 Yes. No one. That's why that game doesn't work. That's why it's fun to add Sean Watson. I know, but here we are five in the afternoon. I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet. I mean, it may have. That's all I'm saying. In fairness, it may have earned yet. No, there's no. Why you you would take on Deshaun Watson and his contract Billy to get Miles Garrett if you were a team that felt like you were Miles Garrett
Starting point is 00:10:11 away, would you do that? Do I have to trade a second round pick for him? Um yes. Third round. Well, no. No. Fourth round. I'm telling I'm telling you the scenario that I would create. I get the scenario. No, no picks. Just him. I get the scenario. No,
Starting point is 00:10:25 no picks. Just him and I get to Sean's contract and then I'd have to like go into like cap numbers and how we can kind of just eat that money. Right. Would winning be important to you to take on to Sean Watson? Yes, that is. Winning is the
Starting point is 00:10:42 only thing. I'm a Jets fan. Of course. That's what I'm saying. Like, yeah, I'm saying I'd figure out. I'd have to figure out for us to Sean Watson. That's where you're at. I mean, see after tonight. I think I think Aaron is going to I love a good way and see this is going to be. I think the most I
Starting point is 00:11:00 and I could be spectacularly wrong. Ask me the same question tomorrow. Yeah, I think this is going to be the most focused Aaron Rogers is going to be headed into a football game in years. Really? Yes, because he wants to make it seem like Robert Sala was the problem. He comes out the hero if he wins big tonight. Yeah, this is, I don't want to say a legacy game,
Starting point is 00:11:22 but this might be a Jets legacy game for Aaron Rodgers. Really? Yeah, for this Jets legacy. Those don't usually go well for us. Yeah. How many legacy games have we had as an organization? I mean, this isn't, this isn't, this isn't not a legacy game for the Jets
Starting point is 00:11:38 or a legacy game for Aaron Rodgers. This is an Aaron Rodgers Jets legacy game. Okay. This is for his Jets legacy. It's Aaron Rodgers second act legacy game. This is for his Jets legacy. It's Aaron Rodgers second act legacy game. So just so everyone here is clear, you're saying this is the most focused Aaron Rodgers will ever be for a football game,
Starting point is 00:11:53 including the Super Bowl. I think, no, I think this, well, he's not gonna go to another one. I think this is the most focused he's going to be for a football game in a very long time. Okay. You don't think so? It's for first place.
Starting point is 00:12:07 I understand what you're saying about Salah. No, that doesn't matter. Just the first place out of this equation. Just the Salah part of it. Exactly right. Right. This is just about Robert Salah. This has nothing to do with first place being on the line.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Right, but he demoted his best friend, Nathaniel Hackett. When I say he, I mean Aaron Rodgers demoted his best friend Nathaniel Hackett for appearances. And so by performing well tonight, that would not bode well for Nathaniel Hackett, but I guess Aaron doesn't care I'm not following what plays are being called to get out of here Aaron Aaron and Nate Hackett have their own like system. They have their own like little walkie-talkie You're gonna see like a pouch like he's gonna be fumbling around in that like front pouch thing That's supposed to keep your hands warm.
Starting point is 00:12:45 You're like, why is he wearing a hand warmer? It's probably like high 60s. He doesn't need that. It's not that cold. And all of a sudden he's gonna pull out a little walkie talkie and he's gonna like press it. It's him talking to Nate on the sideline. Watch, you'll see.
Starting point is 00:12:56 I love how he refers to Nathaniel Hackett as old Nate. Watch closely. Watch closely. Little Nate. Listen to me, listen to me. If Aaron Rodgers pulls a walkie talkie out of that thing, right, today, no one can ever say anything to me listen to me if Aaron Rodgers pulls a walkie-talkie out of that thing right today Yes, no one can ever say anything to me again if he's on the field He pulls a walkie-talkie out of that hand warmer, and he's tied all Nate
Starting point is 00:13:14 No one can say anything moving forward all right Does that good does that conclude winners and losers? Yeah, winners and losers this week was it was a a special edition. It was just Nick Sirianni. Winners and losers presented by Smear and Off the World's number one vodka, please drink responsibly. Jerry Jones has to fire Mike McCartney with it. Oh my God, on his birthday. Oh wow.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Yesterday was his birthday. Talk about another loser. Oh! Oh! That was so bad. You know what? New winner, winner everyone who hates Jerry Jones won yesterday. Winners
Starting point is 00:13:46 and losers presented by Spirit of the Worlds number one vodka, please drink responsibly. How about your boy Doug Peterson? Oh Doug. And Trevor Lawrence. Well here's the thing, they're in London for another week. They have another game there next week so. You can have them. Yeah, I mean I don't think that they're going to fire them while in London but you said
Starting point is 00:14:04 he's not coming back from London. You were right in that they have another game there this week but after this week, I don't know. I don't know. But take his passport. They're already asking him after the game like, hey, you have full
Starting point is 00:14:16 confidence. He's like, yeah, yeah, we're good. It's like, I don't know about that. He also said there was a culture problem inside of the locker room inside the organization. Hey buddy, that's on you. You create the culture. So he said he saw a lot of quit in the team.
Starting point is 00:14:28 I'm like, that's that's a head coach. Probably quit on you. Coach problem. So like in Nick Sirianni's postgame press conference where he had his kids, you're saying like a lot of guys came up to me like, hey, we really really need you back there. We really need you to like get your head in games like dude. Why are you saying this out loud? Like you do. You're the head coach. You should not be having your players come to pump you up. like, we really need you back there. We really need you to like get your head in games like, dude, why are you saying
Starting point is 00:14:45 this out loud like you you're the head coach. You should not be having your players come to pump you up. That's not how this relationship works. Sirianni is the only Eagles coach in franchise history to make it to the playoffs in his
Starting point is 00:15:00 first three seasons and that team is three and two and they're coming off a win. I understand why Sirianni's upset. I mean, he team is three and two and they're coming off a win. I understand why Sirianni's upset. I mean, he was a play away from winning the Super Bowl and the fans are chanting for him to get fired.
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Starting point is 00:16:58 see dkng.co.ftball. on co slash FT ball. All right, we'll bring in Lucy in just a second. We do not forget about college football here on God Bless Football. Lucy joins us. She is the most popular thing on this show, according to Billy, and I agree with Billy. I think she is the most popular. Well, you are according to Billy. And I agree with Billy. I think she is the most popular. Well, you are Lucy.
Starting point is 00:17:26 The audience has grown to love you. Except the ones that hate you, but we forget about them. Yeah, we don't listen. They don't like me. We don't listen to those people. How was your weekend in Oregon? It was my favorite weekend we've ever had. Really?
Starting point is 00:17:41 It really was. And I do sort of feel like I say that a lot, but it's only because we're getting new experiences in. And so my list of like my favorite place continues to change as we get to experience new things. But Oregon was an absolutely just like unreal environment. Like the stadium is really, really loud despite being kind of small the fans are super super nice Just like the scenery is so beautiful and the football was really good. Like it was such a good trip She she put out a video at halftime's two gods and I don't I'm gonna be honest with you I saw it on mute and I was like this is the greatest video I've ever seen because it was just the scenery behind
Starting point is 00:18:21 I was like this place seems beautiful I have no idea how good the tailgating was. The game seemed like a lot of fun. It just looks great. Like if I was like a hiker, I feel like I would live there. Well hikers do live there, yes. Or like if I was like a camper, like I don't think I'd have a house if I lived there.
Starting point is 00:18:36 Maybe like a tiny house or like. A tiny house, yeah. Yeah, like I'd have like a tiny house or like a house like on a trailer, not like a motor home, like one of those that like you unpack and then it's like, oh wow, this is a log cabin. I'm living in the back of my house. And then you just walk around on a trail, you swim in a lake, you get like collar or something, and then you die, but you die in a beautiful place. I have a friend who lives like in sort
Starting point is 00:18:58 of that area and she lives in a van. Of course. Yeah, really. I feel like everybody lives in a van there. Billy, I guess I get what you guys are saying. You don't want too many temptations to stay inside when it's so nice outside. Is that what you're saying? You want to be one with nature? Yeah, I don't.
Starting point is 00:19:14 Yeah. Well, no, but if you live there, you want to stay in a Ritz, right? No, I would live like I would. It's beautiful. I would vacation there, but I'm not a nature girl. Like that's just not who I am. So I can't live there.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Is that your first time going there? For a football game? Yes, I have been to Oregon and Eugene once before. Very briefly. I'm thinking that like the next time you go and you're going to hate this suggestion, but I'm thinking like the next time you go, like it's a camping trip, right? Like, forget the hotel and stuff. We just got like a little tent.
Starting point is 00:19:45 We set it up. Maybe Thomas goes out. She doesn't like to do that. I mean. No, but like for the experience. Right. Rose and Thomas. Yeah, Rose and Thomas can do it.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I think Rose and Thomas go out and they like, you know, they provide like the sustenance. Like they go where they fish, maybe Rose hunts. I don't know. I see Rose as like someone that climbs a tree and like goes to like a beehive to get the honey, I don't know. I see Rose is like someone that climbs a tree and like goes to like a beehive to get the honey, you know?
Starting point is 00:20:07 When's the last time you've been camping? I was a boy scout. Were you really? Just so you know. Yeah, I was a girl scout. There you go. Yeah, but you hate nature. Yeah, I did quit. Billy's very excited that both Army and Navy are undefeated.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Oh, what a magical Monday is, Lucy. They are and like they're not undefeated. They're good. that. Billy's very excited that both Army and Navy are undefeated. Oh, what a magical Monday is, Lucy. They are and like they're not undefeated. They're good. Army was like one by like thirty or forty this weekend against UAB who is really really bad. There was a
Starting point is 00:20:39 point where Army was up like twenty something to three against UAB and had not I just can't imagine that they're going to put two group of five schools in the playoff when they have one set spot. Like I think it's just going to be the one there is a very clear path right now for army and Navy to meet in the AAC Championship game the week before Army Navy. All right.
Starting point is 00:21:18 I have some Lucy or goosey for you before I get to him though in terms of in. I understand the beauty the surroundings the nature Oregon's a fabulous place in terms of in-game experience. Where did it rank for you? It's top three for sure. I was shocked because we had gone to a game at Washington last year, which is a really great experience.
Starting point is 00:21:38 But I've noticed when we're going to these West Coast schools, they tend to sort of lack the tradition that you see at Big Ten and SEC schools. That wasn't the case for Oregon. So they do Shout in the fourth quarter, which is really, really cool. They do this song about Oregon after the first quarter, which was fine. I didn't like it as much as Shout.
Starting point is 00:21:57 But there was really great tradition with it. Also, it was so loud that at halftime, I had to go up and get earplugs because I was genuinely worried about my hearing. Wow. Mm. All right, Lucy or Goosie, are you ready? But also it was so loud that at halftime I had to go up and get earplugs because I was genuinely worried about my hearing. Wow. Hmm. All right, Lucy or Goosey, are you ready?
Starting point is 00:22:09 You know, shout was on my wedding do not playlist. Was it really? Yeah. Why? Same here. Really? So for Oregon, Animal House was filmed in Eugene. So it's got like the little like tie in.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Okay. So you had that on your do not playlist. Yeah, I did. Why? Because it's like a standard. So, it's got like the little like tie in. Okay. So, you have that on your do not playlist. Yeah, I did. Why? Cuz it's like a stand. You don't remember? Well, it's a standard. No, I don't. Why? Cuz it's a standard
Starting point is 00:22:34 uh I know. Uh thank you for throwing that in there. Making me feel worse about it. You don't feel bad. I do feel bad about it. I actually do feel bad about it. It's been sitting with me for a long time. It hasn't. How long have you been married? Exactly. Can I ask you a question?
Starting point is 00:22:45 Why was that on your do not play list? Because it's a standard wedding song. It's just a shame. Yeah, there's a yeah, there's a couple of songs on there. Can I ask you something, Lucy? If Iowa State makes the college football playoff, did we expand the playoffs for no reason? Yeah, absolutely. Here's my OK, look, I'm biased. I'm wearing an Iowa T-shirt right now.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Iowa State has been pretty good money for me betting wise this year. They tend to cover the BYU. The big 12 is wide open right now. It's a very sort of weird conference. It's absorbed all the weirdness of the Pac-12 with it. Texas Tech, BYU and Iowa State are the only undefeated teams in conference play right now. That conference will end up working itself out, but we might get a situation that we're like, hey, no more automatic bids, no more. Wow. Lucy or Goosey, Mike
Starting point is 00:23:32 Raible will be coaching Ohio State next year. Goosey, because I think that they're going to offer Dan Lanning first. And also, I think that if're gonna offer Dan Lanning first. And also I think that if Ryan Day beats Michigan, I think his job is safe. I think that's the one game. Because if you look at the rest of Ohio State's season, there's not a big challenge outside
Starting point is 00:23:56 of Indiana, which is kind of funny to say. So your take of college football, games and losses don't mean anything is wrong. Like it's absolutely wrong, but the flip side of it a little bit is like, losses mean less. Where a loss like this last year, your season is over, technically, but pretty close to it. Ohio State is still very much alive
Starting point is 00:24:19 and most likely will make the playoff. And I wouldn't be surprised to see Ohio State, Oregon again in the Big Ten Championship game. They do have a game at Penn State as well, Lucy, Ohio State. Oh, it's yeah. But James Franklin, I'm not worrying about that. You're not worried about that. Okay. Leads me to my next question. Penn State won despite James Franklin doing everything he could to lose that game. Lucy or Goosie? Lucy, because despite James Franklin trying to do everything he could to lose that game,
Starting point is 00:24:45 Lincoln Riley was like, I'm going to do it better than you. We're at home. This is my chance. Like I just imagine the final sort of like overtime and late fourth quarter of that game, James Franklin is watching Lincoln Riley. I mean, like, this is good stuff. I wish I would have thought of this myself. Like, it's just like who they are.
Starting point is 00:25:10 And Shutdown Full Cast said it so perfectly where they were like, everyone keeps saying this is like USC welcome to the Big Ten. They were doing this in the Pac-12 too. This is not. This is not that different. No, he didn't. Well, he wanted the loss more.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Lincoln Riley just wants to fight with reporters. That is just how he gets his energy out. Penn State looks a lot better and their tight end was crazy in that game. One of the wildest performances we've ever seen. They are better. Their offensive coordinator has been really good. Drew Aller has been pretty good. But it's still like, I won't see, I won't believe them getting over the hump until I see it and they play Ohio State and I believe two or three weeks and we'll figure it out then. Dan Lanning replacing Ryan Day because Ryan Day's quarterback slid too late would be so ridiculous. It's like that game, that was the difference in the game
Starting point is 00:26:06 and that costing the coach the game. Game of inches, Billy. And then Dan landing taking over that job because the quarterback forgot to slide sooner is crazy. It's, I don't look at that necessarily as sort of like what cost Oregon the game. Like that was just kind of like a dumb moment, but not anything that like Will Howard should like
Starting point is 00:26:28 be purposely devastated over. Like the way that Dan Lanning coached this game and the way that he coaches every single game, like there's something with the Dan head coaches with Dan Campbell and Dan Lanning were like, if you say the word analytics, so then they like puke everywhere. He came into this game knowing that Ohio State was like a perfect team the word analytics, so then they like puke everywhere. He came into
Starting point is 00:26:45 this game knowing that Ohio State was like a perfect team and they really, really are. And so he was just super aggressive from the jump, which worked. And there were some moments where like maybe you shouldn't have gone for two there. Maybe you should have just taken the field goal. But like, I look specifically at the onside kick, where I know Oregon only got a field goal off of that possession, but like to take a possession away from Ohio State in a game where possessions matter more than anything, like he was so aggressive that sometimes it made me really anxious and gave me tummy aches. But like it was such a coaching master classroom. Dan, like Dan landing on
Starting point is 00:27:22 just like balls to the wall like send it. Do you think that Ohio State beating Michigan even though it's a down year for Michigan would be enough to keep for Ryan Day to keep his job. Yeah, I would think so like I think if you look at Ryan Day's winning percentage, I'm probably sure it's in the 900 you know, he doesn't lose a lot of games and it's not like they didn't lose to Rutgers.
Starting point is 00:27:47 They lost to Oregon, the number three team in the country at the time when they were the number two team in the country. It wasn't like they lost in an incredibly blowout fashion. That game felt very equal across the board. It's one of those games where you're like, well, if they play 10 times, blah, blah, blah, blah. But like, it's not a loss that anyone should hang their head off. If I'm an Ohio State fan, obviously I'm unhappy, but I don't feel bad about that game.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Like there are concerns, but I don't feel bad. And Ohio State most likely will cruise through regular season. If they don't beat Michigan, that's the problem, especially when Michigan's having a down year. But if they beat Michigan, go to the Big Ten Championship game, which I would assume they'll probably win. I don't think they're gonna fire Ryan Day. Lucy or Goosey, Alabama's win felt like a loss. Oh, it absolutely, Lucy, it felt so much like a loss,
Starting point is 00:28:42 especially because if you watch that game, Alabama, like South Carolina had one really bad blown coverage late in the fourth, which led Alabama to score. Had that play not happened, South Carolina would have won because when they were driving down the field at the end of the game, which they did so well and so efficiently, at the end of the game, which they did so well and so efficiently, they needed eight points. If a few things had gone a little bit differently, South Carolina would have won that game because they just had to get that weird number of eight. It was just across the board. Alabama's defense does not look good. Since the second half of that Georgia game, they have been bad. I read something online that they have given up more big plays this season than they had like the last three years
Starting point is 00:29:30 Combined like their defense doesn't look good Jalen Morrow has kind of fallen into his old ways of just like a very inconsistent Crazy quarterback like before the end of the half of that game He gave up five points to South Carolina alone, and it was like doing dumb. So like it's they just are they're off. They're out of whack and that absolutely feels like a loss if you're a Bama fan. Like no one's gonna be happy and if you want proof tune in to Finebomb today. That's funny guys Ryan Day. I wrote down the winning percentage for Billy. He has the highest winning percentage among active head
Starting point is 00:30:06 coaches in college football. Yeah, he loses one game a year, maybe two, and it just happens to be to the one team. You cannot lose one game a year to 87.5% win percentage. 875. The highest in the sport. Pretty good. Pretty good. And the guy lives on the hot seat. It's absolutely amazing. If Georgia loses to Texas, they are not making the playoff. Lucy or Goosey? If Georgia loses to Texas, I still think they make the playoffs. They have a chance to get a signature win against Tennessee later in the season. Well, the way the SEC has just cannibalized itself over the last few weeks where Ole Miss picked up a second loss, Alabama lost to Vanderbilt, almost lost to South Carolina, Tennessee lost to Arkansas.
Starting point is 00:30:52 The top of the league, which is Texas, is up here. And then there's just a bunch of stuff happening right here. With 12 teams in the playoff, there's absolutely no world where we don't see more than one SEC team. And right now Texas is the favorite and Georgia is second. And like, they're not going to punish you for a loss to Texas, Alabama, if they keep playing like this, maybe a little bit, but still it's like Alabama. So Georgia's, I feel pretty confident in saying Georgia makes the playoff. Lucy or goosey Alabama, Tennessee is the biggest game of the weekend.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Oh, I think I'm gonna go. Hold on Lucy. Billy just said what and why because they're both one lost teams and I maintain that if you get to two losses, you're done. Like I've been saying that all year. So this is a matchup of one lost teams. Anyway, go ahead Lucy. I'm sorry. I'm gonna go Goosey just because I think that the jump from four to 12 affords several two lost teams, especially because teams like Georgia already have a loss. I would say Georgia, Texas is bigger because we are sort of wondering, Texas hasn't really faced anybody. Oklahoma isn't very good this year. So this is a very big weekend for like kind of understanding how good Texas is. I'm like this is easily a preview of the national
Starting point is 00:32:10 championship if you want it to be. Alabama-Tennessee I think is going to be kind of ugly because Tennessee's offense is having a tough time. Alabama's defense is having a tough time. Like I do think this game has more stakes in the playoff, but just straight up in the college football sort of spectacular sort of showmanship is you're having Texas first year in the SEC hosting Georgia. That's an elite game. So it's hard for me to pick against that. But I think they're both going to be interesting.
Starting point is 00:32:40 Alabama, Texas or Alabama, Tennessee, the energy is really, it's weird. It's off. Lucy or Gooseyy final one for you. Mississippi did not lose to LSU. They lost to Death Valley Lucy or goosey. I'll go Lucy just because you know what? No, I changed my answer to Lucy.
Starting point is 00:33:00 You know what? You're right. Take it. They lost to Death Valley. When you don't trail for a single second in a game and still lose, you lost to Death Valley. Thank you. Where are you headed this week, Lucy?
Starting point is 00:33:17 That's a really good question that you have asked me, that you have posed. That's awesome that you've asked that. Stay curious. Oh, Navy Charlotte. Keep asking questions. ask that. Stay curious. Oh, Navy Charlotte. If anybody works in Texas or Tennessee, let me know. Chris Sims. We can talk to Chris Sims and try to make that happen. He's already making faces. He's beloved there. That'll go well. Ricky Williams, perhaps? I mean, I don't know. You're not going to call Ricky Williams. I will reach out to Ricky Williams for you. Okay. And if that does-
Starting point is 00:33:45 I think we already did. Well, if that doesn't work because Ricky sometimes doesn't get back to me, I will reach out to Major Applewhite, all right? Thank you. I was looking for more people that work within the university. Is there any listeners here?
Starting point is 00:33:59 Just let me know. I'll look into it for you and get back to you, okay? Thanks. Thank you, okay? Thanks. Thank you, Lucy. We appreciate it as always. Thank you guys. Iowa scored 40 points this weekend. Nobody's talking about it.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Sorry. They scored 40 against Washington. All right, bye. We're presented by Smirnoff. We do game days. Please drink responsibly the Smirnoff company, New York, New York. So we're over halfway through this episode and we haven't even gotten to Commander's Ravens yet. Right. Which was a great game.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Very good game. I have my BBBBBB picks and this week, I'm gonna be honest with you, I'm a BBBBB bit conflicted. Really? Yeah, because I had some and Mikey for, I wanna say the first time ever said, hey, I have a pick for you if you want a strong feeling.
Starting point is 00:35:06 And I had one that I wasn't feeling super strong about. Right. And then Mikey said, no, keep that one, switch this other one that I felt more strongly about. Right. So now I still have one that I don't feel strongly about. I had one that I felt stronger about that I've now negated in lieu of Mikey's pick.
Starting point is 00:35:24 And then I have one that I do feel good about so we can get to those a little bit later if you'd like to. Okay I would like to do that. Yeah. What's your record? Do you know? My record presently is eleven and seven I believe. Not bad. Yeah. You enjoyed the Ravens commanders game yesterday? Actually that's not true it's thirteen and eight after last week. Thirteen and eight. Thirteen and eight. Alright. Yeah. Did you enjoy that Ravens commanders game? It was a it's 13 and 8 after last week. 13 and 8. 13 and 8. Alright. Did you enjoy that Ravens Commanders game?
Starting point is 00:35:46 It was a nice little moral victory for the commanders, right? I think it's one of those that kind of lived up to the hype, right, like we thought this was going to be a good game. I feel like it was a good game. There were a lot of bad games yesterday. There were. Like there wasn't a ton of great games, there were some blowouts.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Even by the way though, you look at a game like the Texans and the Patriots that was a 20 point blowout, Drake may, may have something there. Maybe. Maybe. Drake, maybe. Maybe not. Maybe not, but also maybe.
Starting point is 00:36:21 I hope not as well, Mikey, hey, trust me. Man, he had a pass, a quiche on booty, that was the longest pass that they've had in three years that was perfect. It just dropped in absolutely perfectly. A dime. Oh yeah, I actually have it here, a dime. It was a 40 yard touchdown, a dime.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Incredible pass. Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe not, but maybe. I'm surprised, actually, that you're going the maybe not route. This probably is just because it's like a Patriots thing, and you don't want the Patriots to have another quarterback.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Let me clear up any confusion. That's 100% what it is. OK. Is that what I'm saying? No, fully. That is the reason. You like to play the games with the new quarterbacks every single year.
Starting point is 00:37:07 And we've been waiting on Drake and maybe. Right. So yeah, he's entered the game. I understand what you're saying. We have Jayden Daniels. Now we have Drake May. We have Caleb Williams, who continues to get better and better.
Starting point is 00:37:19 Bo Nicks took a little step back. We're still waiting on Michael Penick. And we got Spencer Rattler yesterday. Uh-huh. That. I'm not. I'm not so certain about him. I'm going to go with maybe not on him. Fuentes saw some signs he said. I mean, hey, he didn't
Starting point is 00:37:34 play terrible, right? He didn't play great. Yeah, signs. Yeah, that's a good way to put it. He didn't look rattled. He had moments. He had moments. Yeah. Yeah. Flashes, He had moments. Yeah. Flashes, some would say. Yes.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Baker, I think, is the MVP of the league so far. Really? Right? Who would we put in that conversation? Spags. Okay. Hey, Spags, later this week, by the way, check your local listings.
Starting point is 00:37:59 I don't always say check your local listings, but check them. Check your local listings. I don't know where you'll check them, but check them. When's the last time you- Get that TV guide. When's the last time anyone checked their local listings. Check your local listings. I don't know where you'll check them but check them. When's the last time anyone checked their local listings? I want to catch bags. Are there local listings anymore? I don't know. I have no idea. I think for like Wheel of Fortune basically and that's it. Billy you asked who else would be in that conversation. I would say Jada Daniels, Lamar Jackson and probably Derek Henry. Joe Burrow. Yeah but they're not going to give it to a non- quarterback. Like Derek Henry deserves it. Yeah but they're not going to
Starting point is 00:38:25 get it to a non-quarterback. Like, Derek Henry deserves it. Yeah, but they're not going to give it to a non-quarterback. That's become a quarterback award. You're probably right. You're probably right.
Starting point is 00:38:33 Yeah. But you're just asking who else is. Offensive player of the year. That's how they get around it because they gave the MVP to the quarterback and then the It's a workaround.
Starting point is 00:38:41 Correct. Yes. They don't have to give the MVP out. It's crazy how good he's been this year. Derrick Henry. Yeah, crazy. I think he has 700, I think he's north of 800 yards. Is that, am I right? I gotta look this up there. I remember after game one, people were saying, oh, he just kind of fell in the end zone
Starting point is 00:38:53 against Kansas City. No, like he's not lost. He's very good. These are like college numbers that he's putting up. Like this is like, he's playing against players that are not his size and he's so much better than that. Like it's crazy. He has 704 yards so far.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Yeah. And to think his prime was wasted. I touched on every game. Through six games. His prime was wasted at the Titans, wasted. Anyone could add him. Exactly. He's making Lamar Jackson's job a lot easier.
Starting point is 00:39:20 He's also making Jerry Jones look very dumb. That's the best team in the NFL. Couldn't afford him. I know, well, I mean. Couldn't afford Rex Ryan either, but that defense is looking perfect. Will Levis is done, right? Like Will Levis is not good.
Starting point is 00:39:34 Can we agree on that? Sure. Will Levis over a half interception every week is easy money bets. And I have you to thank for that Billy, because you did that. Oh man, we almost missed it that week, because that's the week he got hurt,
Starting point is 00:39:47 but he made sure to get it out of the way nice. Yeah, no, he got it in early, just to make sure I got it. He got it in for us. But this week he got it in the fourth quarter, and I was never scared. I was like, nah, he'll do it. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:58 He'll do it, and there, he did it. But you guys are declaring, are we saying it now as a show? Will Levis done? Yes. Yeah, Mikey are we saying it now as a show? Will Levis done? Uh yes. Yeah. Mikey. I think so. Uh until they up his interceptions every week to one and a half. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Yes. Yeah. Would you guys bring back Richardson at this point? I just stay with Flacco. They did that yesterday. It's hard. I know but I know. I know you want to develop the young guy, but the old guy's good still. I mean, the Steelers are having that conversation also, right? Yeah, they won. I mean, Fields was okay. He ran for two touchdowns. Yeah, but Russ was finally healthy yesterday. Like, yesterday, he was available to play. He was available to play Richardson. I think was like
Starting point is 00:40:39 a late scratch. And then he became like their emergency quarterback in the event that they needed one third string quarterback. Yeah. But like the Steelers actually made a decision yesterday. They did. They did. You're right. I don't know about Flacco. I think as soon as Richardson's healthy, Flacco's losing that job. I mean you're probably right. I'm just asking the question. Should he? He's not losing the job, he's getting his job back. That's true too. I suppose. But isn't it weird that we're worried about the 20-something year old getting hurt and not the forty-something year old getting hurt. He never gets hurt. I mean, sorry I was drinking water. Yeah, what's going on man?
Starting point is 00:41:13 He never gets hurt. I was drinking water. And when I said he never gets hurt, I thought someone would pick it up from there but no one picked it up from there. Now I have water on my face. Yeah. So you want some, you want some bets here? We can do some bets. This is early for bets in the show, early in the proceedings, but I'm conflicted. So I feel like the bets may turn into more of a conversation. Okay, wow.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Yeah. So I'm gonna start with, I'm gonna start with my sure one, which I don't know why I'm doing because I already wrote another one down, but I'm gonna start with my sure one. And then I will get to the ones that I'm not super certain of.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Okay. Billy, I didn't know you were 13 and eight. I think you should ignore me and just do what you do. Yeah, I'm 13 and eight on the season. I didn't know you were that. I've been having a decent season so far. You know what? Maybe we'll just, this is what we're gonna do.
Starting point is 00:42:00 I think we're just gonna do a bonus, a bonus one. We'll do a fourth and it'll include Mikey's. And then I can do the one that like I was okay on and then I'll do the one that I'm Uncertain of and then we'll do Mikey's also and then we're gonna have a rare fourth this week Which one did you just erase and which one are you writing down right now? Here's my for sure one Aaron Rodgers over 217 and a half passing yards We have discussed this today. I feel like Aaron is going to try to put on a show today. Come hell or high water, Aaron Rodgers is gonna be throwing that ball today
Starting point is 00:42:31 and he's going to get over 217 and a half passing yards. He's going to go out of his way to make sure to make the world think that Robert Sala was the problem. Okay, and that's the one you're sure about? That's the one that I'm sure about. Okay. All right, now, here's one that I was feeling good about but Mikey kind of tried to talk me off of and that is related to Aaron Rodgers. It is Alan Lazard over 34 and a half receiving yards. I thought I was feeling good about that one. Mikey told me, no, no, no. I
Starting point is 00:43:08 have one for you and I told him the one that I wanted to switch. He said, no, keep that one. Switch the Lazard one and here is Mikey's pick. Okay, he's writing it down now. Oh, this is the bonus pick. This is the bonus pick and then I'm going to get to the one that I'm not feeling confident about to see if we want to keep it or not. Okay, so Rogers over, Lazard over, Mikey's pick then. Mikey wanted me to replace Lazard with Mike Williams over 24 and a half receiving yards.
Starting point is 00:43:34 Alright. Now, here's the thing about this pick. Mike Williams gets roughly four targets a game. Now, the thing is, he's gotta catch the ball. If he catches the ball, we're good, and he'll get it. But he's gotta catch the ball. It's a big if. He's gotta catch the ball like three times,
Starting point is 00:43:55 because last week he was targeted, I believe, four times, caught the ball twice. Got it. And he barely got what he needed to get. So we're gonna need Mike Williams to catch the ball three times today. If he does it, which honestly, maybe we should change the game to like,
Starting point is 00:44:07 receptions for Mike Williams, right? But we're not gonna do that. We're gonna go over the 24 and a half yards. If he catches the ball three times, he should have this. Now, here's one that for years has been a lock and I locked it in very early. This was the first one I picked. And then I kind of am on the fence about, and I'm not sure if you guys think we should stay with it or not and that is a
Starting point is 00:44:29 Josh Allen anytime TD now for a Josh Allen anytime TD we need Josh Allen to rush the ball into the end zone it's not if Josh Allen passes the ball and gets a passing touchdown that's not an any time he needs to score the touchdown he needs to score the touchdown I guess needs to score the touchdown. I guess he could theoretically receive a pass as well. So he needs to be the one to physically score the touchdown. Now, this used to be a lock, however, this is why it's a dicey proposal this week.
Starting point is 00:44:55 It's because Josh Allen has not rushed the ball in since week one when he had two rushing touchdowns. And Josh Allen, as you guys remember last week, probably very likely had a concussion. So I'm wondering if Josh Allen is going to be throwing himself head first into the end zone as he has done in the past. So that's the one that I'm dicey about.
Starting point is 00:45:17 But you know what? At 13 and eight, I think we roll with it. I think we let it ride this week. And it's been weeks since he's had one, but I think we go for it. What do we let it ride this week and it's been weeks since he's had one But I think we go for it. What do you think? This is the conversation part. This is the conversation part Yeah, cuz Mikey had thoughts on this too where he thinks that it's more likely than not Which is why he had me change it more Mike Lee if you will well done. Yeah, Mikey. What's your concern here? What's I? Think James Cook is injured
Starting point is 00:45:42 I think they're gonna suit him up But I don't think he's gonna play nearly as much and I think when it is injured. I think they're going to suit him up, but I don't think he's going to play nearly as much. And I think when it comes to the goal line, I think Josh Allen's just going to be like, you know what? I'm not handing it to, to anybody else. I'm going to do it. I understand what Billy's saying about the concussion, but when you get into a game and you know,
Starting point is 00:45:59 the adrenaline takes over, right. And he's got to run because he has to run. Yeah. He's going to run that guy. Yeah, as Chris Simms put it last week, the smart players lie about concussions and just keep playing. I think it's things going to kick in with Josh Allen and he's going to just run it for the end.
Starting point is 00:46:18 I forgot Simms said that. Yeah. Way to bring it back up. Yeah, sure. He's trying to create some distance. Yeah, brought it back up. Yeah. Sure. He's trying to create some distance. Yeah, brought it back up and highlighted it. Well, he's always there. I
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