The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Monday Hangover: Maye Be, Maye Be Not
Episode Date: October 14, 2024Stugotz and Mikey A are really nervous for the Monday Night game between the Bills and Jets. Does Mike McCarthy survive the season? Nick Sirianni is the sole Winner and Loser of the week. Would you ta...ke Myles Garrett if it meant you also had to take Deshaun Watson? Lucy stops by after her trip to Oregon for the game against Ohio State. Lucy thinks Ryan Day's job will depend on the game on against Michigan this year. What is a bigger game this Saturday: Bama/Tennessee or Georgia/Texas? Billy gives his BBBBBB with some help(?) from Mikey A. Do the Patriots have a quarterback in Drake? Maye be. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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God bless football. Billy Gill. God bless football, Mike. God
bless football, Fuentes. God
bless football, Stu. Yeah, we
got a big one tonight. The Jets
and the Bills coming up. Billy
looking forward to that. Mike is excited. Mikeys excited. Mike E.A. already said we're gonna lose to the Steelers next week.
I have no idea why he's at next weekend already.
Wow.
Because I'm preparing myself for the pain.
Well done.
Preparing my body for pain.
When you go and you lose to the Steelers next week,
are you coming in off of a winner or a loss?
Good question.
We'll find out tonight.
Big game tonight. Game for the season. Game for the season. Billy question. We'll
find out tonight. Big game
tonight. It's a game for the
season. Game for the season.
Billy's right though. It's a
different mood if you're going
in first place. Right. Yeah.
Totally is. Plus you can handle
the loss if you win tonight. If
you lose tonight, that loss
would really end the season.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But you're
declaring this tonight. The
game for the season. Jets and Bills. Game for the season. Wow. Game for the soul of this
team. Well, hold on a second. So, it doesn't matter if you
win or lose next week. Sure it does because it matters how you
go into next week. If you go in and you lose next week but you
won this week, you're like, alright, we're we're we're we're
we're 500 since Oldbrook took over. Yeah. But if you lose
this week, the season's over. So, it doesn't matter if you win or lose next week. Yeah.
I regret going to you with this because you're all over the place with it.
I gotta be honest with you.
You should. Hey, Lucy's going to join us today.
I'm looking forward to that big weekend.
Gotta get that out of the way real quick.
So everybody knows not to tune out.
Okay.
Thanks Billy.
Yeah.
Very big weekend in college football had some great games.
It was a good NFL weekend as well.
But college football, had some great games. It was a good NFL weekend as well. But college football is super interesting.
We might just have to resign ourselves
to the fact that Vanderbilt is good.
I mean.
I don't know if I'm there yet.
I will say this though.
It's a good loss.
Guys, guys, this is a magical Monday.
Yeah. Okay.
Like this is the first Monday, early morning,
late afternoon, whenever you're consuming this content. Army and Navy are both ranked. like this is the first Monday,
early morning, late afternoon,
whenever you're consuming this
content. Army and Navy are both
ranked. They are. Army and
Navy are both ranked. Yeah. And
look, I'm not going to say it.
Never mind. Let's just say it.
No, no, please say it. I was
going to say. Yeah. And I would
never, I would never, you know,
say we should be going to war still. Yeah, it was a great that's a bad one. Bengals and Can I can I you guys explain something to me because I don't based on what you saw last night, but that team is very, very good. Thank you for the cover, Joe Burrow.
Can you guys explain something to me, because I don't understand this,
and I didn't think, there's a number of ways
we started this show that I didn't think
we were gonna start this show, okay?
Yeah, sorry.
Explain this to me.
How can we be living in a time where you have kickers
who are making kicks that you never saw made before,
in terms of distance, right?
But also kickers that are routinely missing kicks
that seem like they should be made.
Greg Joseph missed both of his field goal attempts yesterday.
Yeah.
Not to say that they would have won the game
had he made those kicks, but how do kickers
just keep missing kicks this year?
I don't understand, but also we have the best kickers we've ever had at the same time. Yeah. I don't have why the kickers just keep missing kicks this year. I don't understand
but also we have the best
kickers we've ever had at the
same time. Yeah. I don't have
an answer for you. I mean, I
don't. I understand what it is
you're saying. I understand why
it is you're confused. I don't
have an answer though as to why
it seems like kickers can, you
know, routinely hit like 5560
yard field goals. They can do like a 70 yard field goal. They get in like a 70 yard
field goal now and then they
miss like a 34 yard gimme. I
don't understand it. Um I don't
either. Joe Burrow can scoot.
He can't scoot. Uh what'd you
guys make of Nick Siriani uh
yesterday? So the the Eagles.
Loser. Oh my god. Really?
Cuz the Eagles got the win. The
fans were getting on Siriani.
Uh Siriani, you know, brought
it up to the fans, walked over to the fans. I'm gonna say this to you, but I'm gonna say this
to you, but I'm gonna say this
to you, but I'm gonna say this
to you, but I'm gonna say this
to you, but I'm gonna say this
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to you, but I'm gonna say this
to you, but I'm gonna say this
to you, but I'm gonna say this
to you, but I'm gonna say this to you, but I'm gonna say this to you, but I'm gonna say my kids face and say things oh listen Stu got school of broadcasting but I mean
dude what a jerk this is uh this is the earliest that we've ever gone to this
segment but it is winners and losers presented by smirnoff please drink
wow we're going this early huh we're going this early because on this week's the winner of the first year and off the field. Please drink
this. Wow. We're going this
early, huh? We're going this
early because on this week's
list of winners and losers, I
had one name and it was Nick
Siriani. For both and after a
big win for Nick Siriani, he
did win. He did win. Yes. And
he he you know, talking maybe
on the hot seat a little bit there. Yeah. Huge win over the towering one and four Browns.
Exactly right.
The one and four Browns who have yet to score 20 points
in a game this season.
Huge win for Nick Sirianni.
So, yes, it was a big win for Nick Sirianni.
Yep.
I have him listed as this week's loser
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The rare loser who won.
They barely beat the one in five Browns
as we previously stated, who, wow, the Browns.
They're bad.
In a bad position.
They're just in bad shape.
It's not that they're bad, which they are,
but they're like, I don't know how they get out of the bad.
Right.
If I'm Myles Garrett,
he jumped over someone yesterday to block a field goal,
which led to, I believe they're only touchdown of the game.
And I don't understand why he's even jumping over people
at this point.
If I'm Myles Garrett, I'm just like,
yeah, whatever, kick the field goal, I don't care.
I'm not gonna hurt myself jumping over someone. What a waste.
I heard this question, and I'm curious what you think. If the
Browns called your team and said, we'll give you Miles
Garrett for a second round pick. But the caveat is you also have
to take the Sean Watson and his contract.
The answer is no.
Oh, his contract?
The answer is no. It's a bad look and you have to take Deshaun Watson and his contract. The answer is no. Oh, his contract, no way. The answer is no.
It's a bad look and you have to take on the contract.
Okay, let me ask a different question.
How about this, the Browns call you and say,
we'll give you Miles Garrett for nothing,
but you also have to take Deshaun Watson and his contract.
So you're not giving up a second.
You just get him, but you have to eat that contract.
How about we remove Deshaun Watson from the equation and the Lions call because they lost
Aiden Hutchinson and they say, Hey, we'll give you a first round pick for Miles Garrett.
But you gotta keep Deshaun Watson.
We don't want one.
Right.
The Brad Deshaun stays with the brands.
That was an area.
Yeah, no, that was the that was the part that made the situation.
I'm already saying now it's things that involved Deshaun Watson.
He hasn't passed for 200 yards this year.
That's crazy.
Winning can't be that important where you would even take Miles Garrett for free.
You get what I'm saying?
What?
Like winning can't be so important that you would take Miles Garret in a sweetheart deal.
Winning can't be that important to an organization where you would take Miles Garret and take on to Sean Watson's contract.
That's what I'm saying.
You have to separate the two. You don't take on to Sean Watson.
Well, no, that's why it's a fun hypothetical.
Yeah, but I don't think it's a fun hypothetical.
Your situation is just, hey.
I think it's a stupid hypothetical.
Aidan Hutchinson's got hurt. Should they trade for Miles Garrett? Like who says no?
Yes. No one. That's why that game doesn't work. That's why it's fun to add Sean Watson.
I know, but here we are five in the afternoon. I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet.
I mean, it may have. That's all I'm saying. In fairness, it may have earned yet.
No, there's no. Why you you would
take on Deshaun Watson and his
contract Billy to get Miles
Garrett if you were a team that
felt like you were Miles Garrett
away, would you do that? Do I
have to trade a second round
pick for him? Um yes. Third
round. Well, no. No. Fourth
round. I'm telling I'm telling
you the scenario that I would
create. I get the scenario.
No, no picks. Just him. I get the scenario. No,
no picks. Just him and I get to
Sean's contract and then I'd
have to like go into like cap
numbers and how we can kind of
just eat that money. Right.
Would winning be important to
you to take on to Sean Watson?
Yes, that is. Winning is the
only thing. I'm a Jets fan.
Of course. That's what I'm saying. Like,
yeah, I'm saying I'd figure out. I'd have to figure out for us to
Sean Watson. That's where you're
at. I mean, see after tonight.
I think I think Aaron is going to
I love a good way and see this is
going to be. I think the most I
and I could be spectacularly
wrong. Ask me the same question
tomorrow. Yeah, I think this is going to be the most focused Aaron Rogers is
going to be headed into a football game in years.
Really?
Yes, because he wants to make it seem like Robert Sala was the problem.
He comes out the hero if he wins big tonight.
Yeah, this is, I don't want to say a legacy game,
but this might be a Jets legacy game for Aaron Rodgers.
Really?
Yeah, for this Jets legacy.
Those don't usually go well for us.
Yeah.
How many legacy games have we had as an organization?
I mean, this isn't, this isn't,
this isn't not a legacy game for the Jets
or a legacy game for Aaron Rodgers.
This is an Aaron Rodgers Jets legacy game.
Okay.
This is for his Jets legacy. It's Aaron Rodgers second act legacy game. This is for his Jets legacy.
It's Aaron Rodgers second act legacy game.
So just so everyone here is clear,
you're saying this is the most focused Aaron Rodgers
will ever be for a football game,
including the Super Bowl.
I think, no, I think this,
well, he's not gonna go to another one.
I think this is the most focused he's going to be
for a football game in a very long time.
Okay.
You don't think so?
It's for first place.
I understand what you're saying about Salah.
No, that doesn't matter.
Just the first place out of this equation.
Just the Salah part of it.
Exactly right.
Right.
This is just about Robert Salah.
This has nothing to do with first place being on the line.
Right, but he demoted his best friend, Nathaniel Hackett.
When I say he, I mean Aaron Rodgers
demoted his best friend Nathaniel Hackett
for appearances. And so by performing well tonight, that would not bode well for Nathaniel Hackett, but I guess Aaron doesn't care
I'm not following what plays are being called to get out of here
Aaron Aaron and Nate Hackett have their own like system. They have their own like little walkie-talkie
You're gonna see like a pouch like he's gonna be fumbling around in that like front pouch thing
That's supposed to keep your hands warm.
You're like, why is he wearing a hand warmer?
It's probably like high 60s.
He doesn't need that.
It's not that cold.
And all of a sudden he's gonna pull out a little walkie
talkie and he's gonna like press it.
It's him talking to Nate on the sideline.
Watch, you'll see.
I love how he refers to Nathaniel Hackett as old Nate.
Watch closely.
Watch closely.
Little Nate.
Listen to me, listen to me.
If Aaron Rodgers pulls a walkie talkie out of that thing, right, today, no one can ever say anything to me listen to me if Aaron Rodgers pulls a walkie-talkie out of that thing right today
Yes, no one can ever say anything to me again if he's on the field
He pulls a walkie-talkie out of that hand warmer, and he's tied all Nate
No one can say anything moving forward all right
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How about your boy Doug Peterson?
Oh Doug.
And Trevor Lawrence.
Well here's the thing, they're in London for another week. They have another game there
next week so.
You can have them.
Yeah, I mean I don't think that they're going to fire them while in London but you said
he's not coming back from
London. You were right in that
they have another game there
this week but after this week, I
don't know. I don't know. But
take his passport. They're
already asking him after the
game like, hey, you have full
confidence. He's like, yeah,
yeah, we're good. It's like, I
don't know about that. He also
said there was a culture
problem inside of the locker
room inside the organization.
Hey buddy, that's on you. You create the culture.
So he said he saw a lot of quit in the team.
I'm like, that's that's a head coach.
Probably quit on you.
Coach problem.
So like in Nick Sirianni's postgame press conference where he had his kids,
you're saying like a lot of guys came up to me like, hey, we really really need you back there.
We really need you to like get your head in games like dude.
Why are you saying this out loud?
Like you do. You're the head coach. You should not be having your players come to pump you up. like, we really need you back there. We really need you to like get your head in games like, dude, why are you saying
this out loud like you you're
the head coach. You should not
be having your players come to
pump you up. That's not how
this relationship works.
Sirianni is the only Eagles
coach in franchise history to
make it to the playoffs in his
first three seasons and that
team is three and two and
they're coming off a win. I
understand why Sirianni's upset. I mean, he team is three and two and they're coming off a win. I understand
why Sirianni's upset. I mean,
he was a play away from winning
the Super Bowl and the fans are
chanting for him to get fired.
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We do not forget about college football here
on God Bless Football.
Lucy joins us.
She is the most popular thing on this show,
according to Billy, and I agree with Billy.
I think she is the most popular. Well, you are according to Billy. And I agree with Billy. I think she is the most popular.
Well, you are Lucy.
The audience has grown to love you.
Except the ones that hate you, but we forget about them.
Yeah, we don't listen.
They don't like me.
We don't listen to those people.
How was your weekend in Oregon?
It was my favorite weekend we've ever had.
Really?
It really was.
And I do sort of feel like I say that a lot, but it's only because
we're getting new experiences in. And so my list of like my favorite place continues to change as
we get to experience new things. But Oregon was an absolutely just like unreal environment. Like
the stadium is really, really loud despite being kind of small the fans are super super nice
Just like the scenery is so beautiful and the football was really good. Like it was such a good trip
She she put out a video at halftime's two gods and I don't I'm gonna be honest with you
I saw it on mute and I was like this is the greatest video I've ever seen because it was just the scenery behind
I was like this place seems beautiful
I have no idea how good the tailgating was.
The game seemed like a lot of fun.
It just looks great.
Like if I was like a hiker, I feel like I would live there.
Well hikers do live there, yes.
Or like if I was like a camper,
like I don't think I'd have a house if I lived there.
Maybe like a tiny house or like.
A tiny house, yeah.
Yeah, like I'd have like a tiny house
or like a house like on a trailer,
not like a motor home,
like one of those that like you unpack and then it's like, oh wow, this is a log cabin. I'm living in the back of my house.
And then you just walk around on a trail, you swim in a lake, you get like collar or something,
and then you die, but you die in a beautiful place. I have a friend who lives like in sort
of that area and she lives in a van. Of course. Yeah, really. I feel like everybody lives in a
van there.
Billy, I guess I get what you guys are saying.
You don't want too many temptations to stay inside
when it's so nice outside.
Is that what you're saying?
You want to be one with nature?
Yeah, I don't.
Yeah.
Well, no, but if you live there, you want to stay in a Ritz,
right?
No, I would live like I would.
It's beautiful.
I would vacation there, but I'm not a nature girl.
Like that's just not who I am.
So I can't live there.
Is that your first time going there?
For a football game?
Yes, I have been to Oregon and Eugene once before.
Very briefly.
I'm thinking that like the next time you go and you're going to hate this suggestion,
but I'm thinking like the next time you go, like it's a camping trip, right?
Like, forget the hotel and stuff.
We just got like a little tent.
We set it up.
Maybe Thomas goes out.
She doesn't like to do that.
I mean.
No, but like for the experience.
Right.
Rose and Thomas.
Yeah, Rose and Thomas can do it.
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
I think Rose and Thomas go out and they like,
you know, they provide like the sustenance.
Like they go where they fish, maybe Rose hunts.
I don't know.
I see Rose as like someone that climbs a tree
and like goes to like a beehive to get the honey, I don't know. I see Rose is like someone that climbs a tree and like goes to
like a beehive to get the honey, you know?
When's the last time you've been camping?
I was a boy scout.
Were you really? Just so you know.
Yeah, I was a girl scout.
There you go.
Yeah, but you hate nature.
Yeah, I did quit.
Billy's very excited that both Army and Navy are undefeated.
Oh, what a magical Monday is, Lucy. They are and like they're not undefeated. They're good. that. Billy's very excited that both Army and Navy are
undefeated. Oh, what a magical
Monday is, Lucy. They are and
like they're not undefeated.
They're good. Army was like one
by like thirty or forty this
weekend against UAB who is
really really bad. There was a
point where Army was up like
twenty something to three
against UAB and had not
I just can't imagine that they're going to put two group of five schools in the playoff when they have one set spot.
Like I think it's just going to be the one there is a very
clear path right now for army and Navy to meet in the AAC
Championship game the week before Army Navy.
All right.
I have some Lucy or goosey for you before I get to him though
in terms of in.
I understand the beauty the surroundings the nature Oregon's a fabulous
place in terms of in-game experience.
Where did it rank for you?
It's top three for sure.
I was shocked because we had gone to a game at Washington
last year, which is a really great experience.
But I've noticed when we're going to these West Coast schools,
they tend to sort of lack the tradition that you see at Big Ten and SEC schools.
That wasn't the case for Oregon.
So they do Shout in the fourth quarter,
which is really, really cool.
They do this song about Oregon after the first quarter,
which was fine.
I didn't like it as much as Shout.
But there was really great tradition with it.
Also, it was so loud that at halftime,
I had to go up and get earplugs because I was genuinely
worried about my hearing. Wow. Mm. All right, Lucy or Goosie, are you ready? But also it was so loud that at halftime I had to go up and get earplugs because I was genuinely worried
about my hearing.
Wow.
Hmm.
All right, Lucy or Goosey, are you ready?
You know, shout was on my wedding do not playlist.
Was it really?
Yeah.
Why?
Same here.
Really?
So for Oregon, Animal House was filmed in Eugene.
So it's got like the little like tie in.
Okay.
So you had that on your do not playlist. Yeah, I did. Why? Because it's like a standard. So, it's got like the little like
tie in. Okay. So, you have that
on your do not playlist. Yeah,
I did. Why? Cuz it's like a
stand. You don't remember?
Well, it's a standard. No, I
don't. Why? Cuz it's a standard
uh I know. Uh thank you for
throwing that in there. Making
me feel worse about it. You
don't feel bad. I do feel bad
about it. I actually do feel
bad about it. It's been sitting
with me for a long time. It
hasn't. How long have you been married? Exactly. Can I ask you a question?
Why was that on your do not play list? Because it's a standard wedding song.
It's just a shame. Yeah, there's a yeah, there's a couple of songs on there.
Can I ask you something, Lucy?
If Iowa State makes the college football playoff,
did we expand the playoffs for no reason?
Yeah, absolutely.
Here's my OK, look, I'm biased.
I'm wearing an Iowa T-shirt right now.
Iowa State has been pretty good money for me betting wise this year. They tend to cover the BYU. The big 12 is wide
open right now. It's a very sort of weird conference. It's absorbed all the weirdness
of the Pac-12 with it. Texas Tech, BYU and Iowa State are the only undefeated teams in
conference play right now. That conference will end up working
itself out, but we might get a
situation that we're like, hey,
no more automatic bids, no more.
Wow. Lucy or Goosey, Mike
Raible will be coaching Ohio
State next year.
Goosey, because I think that
they're going to offer Dan
Lanning first. And also, I think that if're gonna offer Dan Lanning first.
And also I think that if Ryan Day beats Michigan, I think his job is safe.
I think that's the one game.
Because if you look at the rest of Ohio State's season, there's not a big challenge outside
of Indiana, which is kind of funny to say.
So your take of college football, games and losses don't mean anything is wrong.
Like it's absolutely wrong,
but the flip side of it a little bit is like,
losses mean less.
Where a loss like this last year, your season is over,
technically, but pretty close to it.
Ohio State is still very much alive
and most likely will make the playoff.
And I wouldn't be surprised to see Ohio State, Oregon again
in the Big Ten Championship game.
They do have a game at Penn State as well, Lucy, Ohio State.
Oh, it's yeah. But James Franklin, I'm not worrying about that.
You're not worried about that. Okay. Leads me to my next question.
Penn State won despite James Franklin doing everything he could to lose that game. Lucy or Goosie?
Lucy, because despite James Franklin trying to do everything he could to lose that game,
Lincoln Riley was like, I'm going to do it better than you.
We're at home.
This is my chance.
Like I just imagine the final sort of like overtime and late fourth quarter of that game,
James Franklin is watching Lincoln Riley.
I mean, like, this is good stuff.
I wish I would have thought of this myself.
Like, it's just like who they are.
And Shutdown Full Cast said it so perfectly
where they were like, everyone keeps saying
this is like USC welcome to the Big Ten.
They were doing this in the Pac-12 too.
This is not.
This is not that different.
No, he didn't.
Well, he wanted the loss more.
Lincoln Riley just wants to fight with reporters. That is just how he gets his energy out. Penn
State looks a lot better and their tight end was crazy in that game. One of the wildest
performances we've ever seen. They are better. Their offensive coordinator has been really good. Drew Aller has been
pretty good. But it's still like, I won't see, I won't believe them getting over the
hump until I see it and they play Ohio State and I believe two or three weeks and we'll
figure it out then.
Dan Lanning replacing Ryan Day because Ryan Day's quarterback slid too late would be so
ridiculous. It's like that game, that was the difference in the game
and that costing the coach the game.
Game of inches, Billy.
And then Dan landing taking over that job
because the quarterback forgot to slide sooner is crazy.
It's, I don't look at that necessarily as sort of like
what cost Oregon the game.
Like that was just kind of like a dumb moment,
but not anything that like Will Howard should like
be purposely devastated over.
Like the way that Dan Lanning coached this game
and the way that he coaches every single game,
like there's something with the Dan head coaches
with Dan Campbell and Dan Lanning were like,
if you say the word analytics,
so then they like puke everywhere.
He came into this game knowing that Ohio State was like a perfect team the word analytics, so then they like puke everywhere. He came into
this game knowing that Ohio State was like a perfect team and they really, really are.
And so he was just super aggressive from the jump, which worked. And there were some moments
where like maybe you shouldn't have gone for two there. Maybe you should have just taken the field
goal. But like, I look specifically at the onside kick, where I know Oregon only got a field goal
off of that possession,
but like to take a possession away from Ohio State in a game where possessions matter more
than anything, like he was so aggressive that sometimes it made me really anxious and gave
me tummy aches. But like it was such a coaching master classroom. Dan, like Dan landing on
just like balls to the wall like send it.
Do you think that Ohio State beating Michigan even though
it's a down year for Michigan would be enough to keep for
Ryan Day to keep his job.
Yeah, I would think so like I think if you look at Ryan Day's
winning percentage, I'm probably sure it's in the 900
you know, he doesn't lose a lot of games and it's not like
they didn't lose to Rutgers.
They lost to Oregon, the number three team in the country at the time when they were
the number two team in the country.
It wasn't like they lost in an incredibly blowout fashion.
That game felt very equal across the board.
It's one of those games where you're like, well, if they play 10 times, blah, blah,
blah, blah.
But like, it's not a loss that anyone should hang their head off.
If I'm an Ohio State fan, obviously I'm unhappy, but I don't feel bad about that game.
Like there are concerns, but I don't feel bad.
And Ohio State most likely will cruise through regular season.
If they don't beat Michigan, that's the problem, especially when Michigan's having a down year.
But if they beat Michigan, go to the Big Ten Championship
game, which I would assume they'll probably win.
I don't think they're gonna fire Ryan Day.
Lucy or Goosey, Alabama's win felt like a loss.
Oh, it absolutely, Lucy, it felt so much like a loss,
especially because if you watch that game, Alabama,
like South Carolina had one really bad blown coverage late in the fourth, which led Alabama
to score. Had that play not happened, South Carolina would have won because when they were
driving down the field at the end of the game, which they did so well and so efficiently,
at the end of the game, which they did so well and so efficiently, they needed eight points.
If a few things had gone a little bit differently, South Carolina would have won that game because they just had to get that weird number of eight. It was just across the board. Alabama's defense
does not look good. Since the second half of that Georgia game, they have been bad.
I read something online that they have given up more big plays this season than they had like the last three years
Combined like their defense doesn't look good
Jalen Morrow has kind of fallen into his old ways of just like a very inconsistent
Crazy quarterback like before the end of the half of that game
He gave up five points to South Carolina alone, and it was like doing dumb.
So like it's they just are they're off. They're out of whack and that absolutely feels like a loss if you're a Bama fan.
Like no one's gonna be happy and if you want proof tune in to Finebomb today.
That's funny guys Ryan Day. I wrote down the winning percentage for Billy.
He has the highest winning percentage among active head
coaches in college football. Yeah, he loses one game a year,
maybe two, and it just happens to be to the one team. You
cannot lose one game a year to 87.5% win percentage. 875. The
highest in the sport. Pretty good. Pretty good. And the guy
lives on the hot seat. It's absolutely amazing. If Georgia loses to Texas, they are not making the playoff. Lucy or Goosey?
If Georgia loses to Texas, I still think they make the playoffs. They have a chance to get a signature win against Tennessee later in the season. Well, the way the SEC has just cannibalized itself over the last few weeks where Ole Miss
picked up a second loss, Alabama lost to Vanderbilt, almost lost to South Carolina, Tennessee
lost to Arkansas.
The top of the league, which is Texas, is up here.
And then there's just a bunch of stuff happening right here.
With 12 teams in the playoff, there's absolutely no world where we don't see more than one SEC team.
And right now Texas is the favorite and Georgia is second.
And like, they're not going to punish you for a loss to Texas, Alabama,
if they keep playing like this, maybe a little bit, but still it's like Alabama.
So Georgia's, I feel pretty confident in saying Georgia makes the playoff.
Lucy or goosey Alabama, Tennessee is the biggest game of the weekend.
Oh, I think I'm gonna go. Hold on Lucy. Billy just said what and why because they're both one
lost teams and I maintain that if you get to two losses, you're done. Like I've been saying that
all year. So this is a matchup of one lost teams. Anyway, go ahead Lucy. I'm sorry.
I'm gonna go Goosey just because I think that the jump from four to 12 affords several two lost teams, especially
because teams like Georgia already have a loss. I would say Georgia, Texas is bigger because we are
sort of wondering, Texas hasn't really faced anybody. Oklahoma isn't very good this year.
So this is a very big weekend for
like kind of understanding how good Texas is. I'm like this is easily a preview of the national
championship if you want it to be. Alabama-Tennessee I think is going to be kind of ugly because
Tennessee's offense is having a tough time. Alabama's defense is having a tough time.
Like I do think this game has more stakes in the playoff, but just straight up in the college football
sort of spectacular sort of showmanship
is you're having Texas first year in the SEC hosting Georgia.
That's an elite game.
So it's hard for me to pick against that.
But I think they're both going to be interesting.
Alabama, Texas or Alabama, Tennessee, the energy is really,
it's weird.
It's off.
Lucy or Gooseyy final one for you.
Mississippi did not lose to LSU.
They lost to Death Valley Lucy or goosey.
I'll go Lucy just because you know what?
No, I changed my answer to Lucy.
You know what?
You're right.
Take it.
They lost to Death Valley.
When you don't trail for a single second in a game and still lose,
you lost to Death Valley.
Thank you.
Where are you headed this week, Lucy?
That's a really good question that you have asked me, that you have posed.
That's awesome that you've asked that. Stay curious.
Oh, Navy Charlotte.
Keep asking questions.
ask that. Stay curious. Oh, Navy Charlotte. If anybody works in Texas or Tennessee, let me know. Chris Sims. We can talk to Chris Sims and try to make that happen. He's already
making faces. He's beloved there. That'll go well. Ricky Williams, perhaps? I mean,
I don't know. You're not going to call Ricky Williams. I will reach out to Ricky Williams
for you. Okay. And if that does-
I think we already did.
Well, if that doesn't work
because Ricky sometimes doesn't get back to me,
I will reach out to Major Applewhite, all right?
Thank you.
I was looking for more people
that work within the university.
Is there any listeners here?
Just let me know.
I'll look into it for you and get back to you, okay?
Thanks. Thank you, okay? Thanks.
Thank you, Lucy.
We appreciate it as always.
Thank you guys.
Iowa scored 40 points this weekend.
Nobody's talking about it.
Sorry.
They scored 40 against Washington.
All right, bye.
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So we're over halfway through this episode and we haven't even gotten to Commander's Ravens yet.
Right.
Which was a great game.
Very good game.
I have my BBBBBB picks and this week,
I'm gonna be honest with you,
I'm a BBBBB bit conflicted.
Really?
Yeah, because I had some and Mikey for,
I wanna say the first time ever said,
hey, I have a pick for you if you want a strong feeling.
And I had one that I wasn't feeling super strong about.
Right.
And then Mikey said, no, keep that one,
switch this other one that I felt more strongly about.
Right.
So now I still have one that I don't feel strongly about.
I had one that I felt stronger about
that I've now negated in lieu of Mikey's pick.
And then I have one that I do feel good about so we can get to those a little
bit later if you'd like to. Okay I would like to do that. Yeah.
What's your record? Do you know? My record presently is
eleven and seven I believe. Not bad. Yeah. You enjoyed the
Ravens commanders game yesterday? Actually that's not
true it's thirteen and eight after last week. Thirteen and
eight. Thirteen and eight. Alright. Yeah. Did you enjoy that Ravens commanders game? It was a it's 13 and 8 after last week. 13 and 8. 13 and 8. Alright.
Did you enjoy that Ravens Commanders game?
It was a nice little moral victory for the commanders, right?
I think it's one of those that kind of lived up to the hype,
right, like we thought this was going to be a good game.
I feel like it was a good game.
There were a lot of bad games yesterday.
There were.
Like there wasn't a ton of great games,
there were some blowouts.
Even by the way though, you look at a game like the Texans
and the Patriots that was a 20 point blowout,
Drake may, may have something there.
Maybe.
Maybe.
Drake, maybe.
Maybe not.
Maybe not, but also maybe.
I hope not as well, Mikey, hey, trust me.
Man, he had a pass, a quiche on booty,
that was the longest pass that they've had in three years
that was perfect.
It just dropped in absolutely perfectly.
A dime.
Oh yeah, I actually have it here, a dime.
It was a 40 yard touchdown, a dime.
Incredible pass.
Maybe.
Maybe not.
Maybe not, but maybe.
I'm surprised, actually, that you're
going the maybe not route.
This probably is just because it's like a Patriots thing,
and you don't want the Patriots to have another quarterback.
Let me clear up any confusion.
That's 100% what it is.
OK.
Is that what I'm saying?
No, fully.
That is the reason.
You like to play the games with the new quarterbacks
every single year.
And we've been waiting on Drake and maybe.
Right.
So yeah, he's entered the game.
I understand what you're saying.
We have Jayden Daniels.
Now we have Drake May.
We have Caleb Williams, who continues
to get better and better.
Bo Nicks took a little step back.
We're still waiting on Michael Penick.
And we got Spencer Rattler yesterday.
Uh-huh. That. I'm not. I'm
not so certain about him. I'm
going to go with maybe not on
him. Fuentes saw some signs he
said. I mean, hey, he didn't
play terrible, right? He didn't
play great. Yeah, signs. Yeah,
that's a good way to put it. He
didn't look rattled. He had
moments. He had moments. Yeah.
Yeah. Flashes, He had moments. Yeah.
Flashes, some would say.
Yes.
Baker, I think, is the MVP of the league so far.
Really?
Right?
Who would we put in that conversation?
Spags.
Okay.
Hey, Spags, later this week, by the way,
check your local listings.
I don't always say check your local listings,
but check them.
Check your local listings.
I don't know where you'll check them, but check them.
When's the last time you- Get that TV guide. When's the last time anyone checked their local listings. Check your local listings. I don't know where you'll check them but check them.
When's the last time anyone checked their local listings? I want to catch bags. Are there local listings anymore? I don't know. I have no idea. I think for like Wheel of Fortune basically and
that's it. Billy you asked who else would be in that conversation. I would say Jada Daniels,
Lamar Jackson and probably Derek Henry. Joe Burrow. Yeah but they're not going to give it to a non- quarterback. Like Derek Henry deserves it. Yeah but they're not going to
get it to a non-quarterback.
Like, Derek Henry deserves it.
Yeah, but they're not going to
give it to a non-quarterback.
That's become a quarterback
award.
You're probably right.
You're probably right.
Yeah.
But you're just asking who
else is.
Offensive player of the year.
That's how they get around it
because they gave the MVP to the
quarterback and then the
It's a workaround.
Correct.
Yes.
They don't have to give the
MVP out. It's crazy how good he's been this year. Derrick Henry. Yeah, crazy. I think he has 700, I think he's north of 800 yards.
Is that, am I right?
I gotta look this up there.
I remember after game one, people were saying,
oh, he just kind of fell in the end zone
against Kansas City.
No, like he's not lost.
He's very good.
These are like college numbers that he's putting up.
Like this is like, he's playing against players
that are not his size and he's so much better than that.
Like it's crazy.
He has 704 yards so far.
Yeah.
And to think his prime was wasted.
I touched on every game.
Through six games.
His prime was wasted at the Titans, wasted.
Anyone could add him.
Exactly.
He's making Lamar Jackson's job a lot easier.
He's also making Jerry Jones look very dumb.
That's the best team in the NFL.
Couldn't afford him.
I know, well, I mean.
Couldn't afford Rex Ryan either,
but that defense is looking perfect.
Will Levis is done, right?
Like Will Levis is not good.
Can we agree on that?
Sure.
Will Levis over a half interception every week
is easy money bets.
And I have you to thank for that Billy,
because you did that.
Oh man, we almost missed it that week,
because that's the week he got hurt,
but he made sure to get it out of the way nice.
Yeah, no, he got it in early,
just to make sure I got it.
He got it in for us.
But this week he got it in the fourth quarter,
and I was never scared.
I was like, nah, he'll do it.
Right.
He'll do it, and there, he did it.
But you guys are declaring,
are we saying it now as a show?
Will Levis done?
Yes. Yeah, Mikey are we saying it now as a show? Will Levis done? Uh yes. Yeah.
Mikey. I think so. Uh until
they up his interceptions every
week to one and a half. Right.
Yes. Yeah. Would you guys bring
back Richardson at this point?
I just stay with Flacco. They
did that yesterday. It's hard.
I know but I know. I know you want to develop the young guy, but the old guy's good still. I mean,
the Steelers are having that conversation also, right? Yeah, they won. I mean,
Fields was okay. He ran for two touchdowns. Yeah, but Russ was finally healthy yesterday. Like,
yesterday, he was available to play. He was available to play Richardson. I think was like
a late scratch. And then he became like their emergency quarterback in the event that they
needed one third string quarterback. Yeah. But like the Steelers actually made
a decision yesterday. They did. They did. You're right. I don't know about Flacco.
I think as soon as Richardson's healthy, Flacco's losing that job. I mean you're
probably right. I'm just asking the question. Should he? He's not losing the job, he's getting his job back.
That's true too. I suppose. But isn't it weird that we're worried about the
20-something year old getting hurt and not the forty-something year old
getting hurt. He never gets hurt. I mean, sorry I was drinking water. Yeah, what's going on man?
He never gets hurt. I was drinking water. And when I said he never gets hurt, I thought
someone would pick it up from there but no one picked it up from there. Now I
have water on my face. Yeah. So you want some, you want some bets here? We can do
some bets. This is early for bets in the show,
early in the proceedings, but I'm conflicted.
So I feel like the bets may turn into more
of a conversation.
Okay, wow.
Yeah.
So I'm gonna start with,
I'm gonna start with my sure one,
which I don't know why I'm doing
because I already wrote another one down,
but I'm gonna start with my sure one.
And then I will get to the ones
that I'm not super certain of.
Okay.
Billy, I didn't know you were 13 and eight.
I think you should ignore me and just do what you do.
Yeah, I'm 13 and eight on the season.
I didn't know you were that.
I've been having a decent season so far.
You know what?
Maybe we'll just, this is what we're gonna do.
I think we're just gonna do a bonus, a bonus one.
We'll do a fourth and it'll include Mikey's. And then I can do the one that like I was okay on and then I'll do the one that I'm
Uncertain of and then we'll do Mikey's also and then we're gonna have a rare fourth this week
Which one did you just erase and which one are you writing down right now?
Here's my for sure one Aaron Rodgers over 217 and a half passing yards
We have discussed this today. I feel like Aaron is going to try to put on a show today.
Come hell or high water,
Aaron Rodgers is gonna be throwing that ball today
and he's going to get over 217 and a half passing yards.
He's going to go out of his way to make sure
to make the world think that Robert Sala was the problem.
Okay, and that's the one you're sure about?
That's the one that I'm sure about.
Okay. All right, now, here's one that I was feeling good about but Mikey kind of tried to talk
me off of and that is related to Aaron Rodgers. It is Alan Lazard over 34 and a half receiving
yards. I thought I was feeling good about that one. Mikey told me, no, no, no. I
have one for you and I told him the one that I wanted to
switch. He said, no, keep that one. Switch the Lazard one and
here is Mikey's pick. Okay, he's writing it down now. Oh,
this is the bonus pick. This is the bonus pick and then I'm
going to get to the one that I'm not feeling confident about
to see if we want to keep it or not.
Okay, so Rogers over, Lazard over, Mikey's pick then.
Mikey wanted me to replace Lazard with Mike Williams over 24 and a half receiving yards.
Alright.
Now, here's the thing about this pick.
Mike Williams gets roughly four targets a game.
Now, the thing is, he's gotta catch the ball.
If he catches the ball, we're good, and he'll get it.
But he's gotta catch the ball.
It's a big if.
He's gotta catch the ball like three times,
because last week he was targeted, I believe,
four times, caught the ball twice.
Got it.
And he barely got what he needed to get.
So we're gonna need Mike Williams
to catch the ball three times today.
If he does it, which honestly,
maybe we should change the game to like,
receptions for Mike Williams, right?
But we're not gonna do that.
We're gonna go over the 24 and a half yards.
If he catches the ball three times, he should have this.
Now, here's one that for years has been a lock
and I locked it in very early.
This was the first one I picked.
And then I kind of am on the fence about, and I'm not sure if you guys think we should stay with it or not and that is a
Josh Allen anytime TD now for a Josh Allen anytime TD we need Josh Allen to
rush the ball into the end zone it's not if Josh Allen passes the ball and gets a
passing touchdown that's not an any time he needs to score the touchdown he needs
to score the touchdown I guess needs to score the touchdown.
I guess he could theoretically receive a pass as well.
So he needs to be the one to physically score the touchdown.
Now, this used to be a lock, however,
this is why it's a dicey proposal this week.
It's because Josh Allen has not rushed the ball in
since week one when he had two rushing touchdowns.
And Josh Allen, as you guys remember last week,
probably very likely had a concussion.
So I'm wondering if Josh Allen is going to be
throwing himself head first into the end zone
as he has done in the past.
So that's the one that I'm dicey about.
But you know what?
At 13 and eight, I think we roll with it.
I think we let it ride this week.
And it's been weeks since he's had one, but I think we go for it. What do we let it ride this week and it's been weeks since he's had one
But I think we go for it. What do you think? This is the conversation part. This is the conversation part
Yeah, cuz Mikey had thoughts on this too where he thinks that it's more likely than not
Which is why he had me change it more Mike Lee if you will well done. Yeah, Mikey. What's your concern here? What's I?
Think James Cook is injured
I think they're gonna suit him up
But I don't think he's gonna play nearly as much and I think when it is injured. I think they're going to suit him up, but I don't think he's going to play nearly as much.
And I think when it comes to the goal line,
I think Josh Allen's just going to be like, you know what?
I'm not handing it to, to anybody else.
I'm going to do it.
I understand what Billy's saying about the concussion,
but when you get into a game and you know,
the adrenaline takes over, right.
And he's got to run because he has to run.
Yeah.
He's going to run that guy.
Yeah, as Chris Simms put it last week, the smart players lie about concussions
and just keep playing.
I think it's things going to kick in with Josh Allen and he's going to just
run it for the end.
I forgot Simms said that.
Yeah.
Way to bring it back up.
Yeah, sure.
He's trying to create some distance. Yeah, brought it back up. Yeah. Sure. He's trying to create
some distance. Yeah, brought it
back up and highlighted it.
Well, he's always there. I
didn't write it down. I could
have written it down. God bless.
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