The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Postgame Show: After the Game? The Hockey Show? The Postgame Show? Hockey?

Episode Date: January 5, 2024

SPOILER: Our first segment will ruin 'Saltburn' about 4 minutes into it, but if you don't care about being spoiled, it's wildly entertaining and you should definitely listen. We also try to figure out what the name of Roy's hockey shows actually are... Then, it's time for The Hockey Show (!!!) with Roy and David Dwork as they discuss their all-time favorite hockey jerseys before chatting with Mike Kelly of the NHL Network about analytics in the game. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. I am warning you right now, we are about to ruin Saltburn. The movie Saltburn. If you have not seen it, you need to just skip past this segment. I'm warning you now because otherwise you're going to get mad, really mad at everyone on this show. Saltburn, if you want to watch it and do not want it spoiled, you must fast forward through this now. Don't be an asshole.

This one's the hockey show. This is the week we went. The hockey show. Yeah. It's not the post game show? No, it's the hockey show. It's the post game show only on Fridays. Just the hockey show

yes all right let me explain something to the audience here because this is what it's a tie the entanglement we've got going on here uh... Jessica and Lucy have an unnamed lot mostly hold on twice named hold on twice named forgive me that's so nice they named it twice. Okay, and that is going to appear. Are there any special guests? Well, Lucy, Lucy also, Steely Dan, Gojo came on this week.

This show and not so the problem that I have with the way that we're promoting things around here is we're Promoting too much or promoting after the fact What Roy is doing in the post game show What a hockey show So it's two different shows it's two different show Let me say this from the beginning. No, you have spin off. There's two show. Yes. I thought it was very clear No, this has been very clear. Jesus, today's hockey show is the main show's post game show.

Yep, there's also a post game show after some home hockey games. Not exactly sure when though. Well, what are they? You called. Thank you. Which one is called the hockey show? This one. This one. The hockey show, just different This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one. This one a good question. It depends on the way from I guess. It should be the, it should be the dialect. And yeah, I gotta tell you, like the branding

on this hockey enterprise of yours is really messy. Finally, someone said it. Should have been foys. No, no. That's a good one actually. Foot. Foot. Foot.

No. I have been very disappointed. Call it ski boys. E. I have been very disappointed. Call it's keep boys. Eee. I've been very disappointed by your performance. What? Say, Roy, because your hockey show is a bit of a mess promotion.

There's two. Yeah. And this is after the game or the hockey show. This is the part that bothered me the most today about your general performance today Oh boy is that I saw you and jail, okay, and it made me happy to think you were suffering I'm really yes But here's what happened Roy. Here's what happened I kept looking at you in jail and you couldn't stop trying to suppress a gig while I had jailed

you. You could not fundamentally stay in jail, sad, properly jailed, justly jailed. You kept smiling and laughing and not staying properly punished in jail. Six game winters, three, Dan. He's making the best of a bad situation. You let everyone experience the smile. I've never recognized or seen this Roy in my life before. I've never seen Sam Ryan Hardham this kind of production. All star. Roy, you need to stop using Lord's name and vein. People are getting mad at me for doing it too much. I'm sorry. I apologize. And we have to. The Lord and Savior. That's a very Keyden's name in vain.

I don't know what's happening with that movie and people. It's just Adnan Burke is totally repressed and- Tony didn't like it either. I don't like it. I'm not repressed but I don't like it. I just- Whatever. I mean. I didn't really care. What Jeremy? Uh, go go feel like Solburn wasn't made for you, Tony. That's all I'm saying. I saw it.

I appreciated what they were going for. It just wasn't for me. I didn't like it. I'm agreeing with you. We agreed. Yeah, but there's an undertone there that I don't really like. The way I agree to agree. I mean, you've told me to shut up very loudly

like six times this week. So, and I feel like I've been justified in every time. Yeah. Billy, what's happening with Tony and Jerry? I have an acc I feel like I've been justified in it. Every time. Yeah. Billy, what's happening with Tony and Jerry? I have an acclue. I have an acclue. Billy, bully Tony, so Tony bullies me. I don't know.

And so I'm finally firing back. I have a theory. It revolves around creatine. Oh, no. Tony, I believe what's happening. I didn't say that. That's my, I'm not on trend.

Like it's creatine. It's a normal something that's actually in the body by the way. Go ahead, let's test you. What are you alleging that that I'd like to know that I'm just saying mood swings or can you know I'm in the same mood all the time. You know what I'm back on Tony said Wow, look there's a lot of tension in this room and one of the tensions here that I just felt stu-gots because I believe what's happening around this movie, okay? And Mike Ryan and Jeremy and Jessica and Samson all allies on this is they like some shocking things that maybe some art critics would tell you are gratuitously shocking. I have not yet seen the movie so I don't know who's repressed here and who's

not repressed. We'll see together on Sunday. Yes, but there are shocking things in this movie But Tony also did not like the movie and also does not like the suggestion that he's repressed and also does not like that The artists in the room are looking down at the caveman. They're judging his movie taste here artists. Please give me a break My doodles are pretty good. good yeah I have a number one album Tony feels to me like he does not like the rest of you are being intellectually superior I have a hockey show which one you have to do yeah you have two hockey shows right right what what did you not like about the movie if I made it's not that I didn't like it's that look when you have somebody who just,

I don't wanna spoil things. If we already spoil the lot, just spoil it, who cares? No, don't spoil it. No, we already spoil it cause I was watching it. We're spoiling something. We're spoiling something, right? We're watching it together.

You're like, there's a weiner. The point, no, there's a lot. That's something new. You are all really minimizing it. Yeah, it is there. Um, it's that in this, in this movie, the bad guy just does all the bad things and gets away with them without

Reprecussion, whoa, he's got to live with those Oh, yeah, he's got to live with those consequences and a huge day. You didn't say who the bad guy Oh, man, it could be the Butler what happens? It could be anybody but the point being that it's just like one thing after another after another happens I'm like, okay, so when is he gonna get his oh never oh sick? Okay? Some people never get there is Tony It's a harsh. Then we all got to learn what's an example. I'm getting mine buddy. We're all going to learn it with a national championship game on on Monday. And sometimes being rotten doesn't have consequences. Watch party for that too. I'm going to just name Georgia the champion at the end of that. I like it. Dana, congratulations.

I think if, well, no. Well, if Washington wins, can't they technically to one of the formulas claim a national title? That was part of their motivation in playing that game as they did. They can. I did. My favorite thing that Kirby Smart did in that, Orange Bowl okay, it's about backups now and you're gonna say that Here's a white running back you've never seen before I Had this hot take in Gen CFP which everyone's already listened to but I I don't really I don't really care if there's some blowouts in

Bowl season It's okay. We had enough really good games to balance out the blowout games. I don't know if it's an indictment on the entire postseason system that that game was a humongous sad depressing blowout. We've covered this this week. Viewers also don't care ratings up. Oh, it doesn't matter. It's all just talk. It's just hey, fix it, fix it. What needs fixing? Two great games on Saturday. My nearly football was amazing. They came down to the end and at the end of the holidays, you might have been tired of football. It's two guys was saying at nine o'clock,

he was saying, still it. Leave me alone football too late to start. That's right. This is what I'm nervous about for the National Championship game. I'm nervous the game's not going to be that good because we got, like we are so blessed by these two

tremendous college football playoff games. And last year's same thing both of those games were really good. And then we got the most dutist, turtist, lamest, stupidest national championship game ever. And I'm scared. I'm scared that we can't have three good things. You know what I want to say? I can't be falling asleep come halftime. And I don't want marching bands leave that to the Rose Bowl I love All game halftime shows like the hour throw the free up there performing how to save a life do something the free I love to surprise you that I love to the fray

Just to be clear put her on the script play break and do something that's like light but poppy marching bands I want a marching band. Put it on the pole at Levitade. One republic. Do marching band suck. The all American rejects something safe. Jason Marass and white. It has to be white. Jessica. Tertis. Tertis. She's right. Tertus. That was the game last year. So last year's game was Tertus, Ferguson. And you're fearing that this game is going to be Tertus. Welcome. Vertical horizon. Absolutely. It's too good. It's too good. We were blessed. We were blessed on New Year's Day by those games. But I don't think that the game can be

bad if Washington's winning it by four touchdowns. I don't think it. I don't think that the game can be bad if Washington's winning it by four touchdowns. I don't think so either. I don't think we'll have what happened last year, but if it does, two dirty games in a row, then we will have pitchforks in the streets. We'll have to change college football. Coming up next, the hockey show. That was? Hello, welcome to the hockey show.

It's a new year. It's a new year. It's a new us. Not really. Same us. Same us. My name is Roy Bellamy. David Drucker, the Hockey News. We are wearing hockey jerseys today

because we have ourselves a top five list. Four of them. You know, two, me and two from David. It's going to be the top five and the bottom five list of jerseys that we actually like over the span of our hockey fandom. So we'll get to that in a moment, but we're gonna start off on Tuesday,

the Panthers played the Arizona Coyotes and within that game, the cousins get ran. He was boarded by again, again, by the way, again. He got ran by Jason Sucker who ended up again suspended for three games let's discuss this play. I just want to know is like Nick Cousins become a magnet for these kind of things and it's funny the reaction over the last couple of days since it happened. There's so much hate and visceral for Nick Cousins out there it's and Santa shocking. There's this big perception that he's a dirty player. We've been watching him

day in and day out. Have you noticed him as a dirty guy? No, no. In fact, on the hit that led to that boarding penalty, one of the coyotes ended up on his knee. It looked like he actually laid up on the hit. He definitely let up. He could have destroyed who was it. It was you so Valamaki. He could have destroyed him. The guy was on his knees, you know, a few inches from the boards, and Cousin certainly let, he hit him

and let that Valamaki almost look around like, did I just hit, get hit? Did something just fly, like, it was like nothing. I feel like Jason Zucker saw that, and he's like, I'm, this guy again, like for whatever, there's this perception. And if I'm wrong, world, please come come send me the footage, send me the evidence, send me the receipts of Nick Cousins as a dirty, dirty player that he seems to have this

perception of. I just, I don't know. I think the blue jackets fans are going in, those coming into your mentions and say, hey, what happened? Bring it on. Educate me, please. All right. It's time for the lists.

All right. It's time for the lists. All right, so we're gonna start off with all top five lists of our favorite hockey jerseys and Any cell jerseys right any Child jerseys not in not international not your not romans league none of that. This is no this is straight national hockey league jerseys not eight Not a angel eater. All right, not junior nothing like that. So, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a Kurt McLean, that Pavel Burre, Trevor Lyndon, good jersey. Yeah, I think that was a good jersey. That's my outside looking in. You have an outside looking in? I had a few outside looking in's, but if I'm dinner half to narrow it down to one, I'm

going to go with the original Mighty Duck's jerseys. Okay. From the movies, from the early 90s, those, you know, with the Golly Masked, got, clack clack, I love it. Quick, quick. So I didn't, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great, the great The Dresden. Dresden years. Yeah, that was nice. It was silver and black. At the nice little crest.

Yep. That said, King's on it had the crown. Yeah, it was nice looking set. That's also on mine, but I'm going to take it off because it was on yours and I'm going to replace it with the original Washington Capitals jerseys with the little stars on them. Yes. From like 80s. For what a reason, they grew on me.

I liked them. I think they're very nostalgic. Yes, I think that's very good as well. The current jerseys were remodeled in that image. So very good. Number four for me, the 1990s version of the Haunted Wellers. Okay. The Wellers is just a to win.

It's a good one. Yeah. Number four for me is one that I think it might be on a lot of people's least favorite lists, but I just always loved it. And it's the mid 90s New York Islanders Fisherman jerseys. Oh, exactly. I might be the only person that still likes these, but I for whatever reason, just like picture Eric Fischo, the flowing hair. So they know Chara. Yeah, Brian Barard, it's just, you know. That's a poor time in Alan's history. Yes it was. So that's why it's probably looked on Liston kindly. The Stan Fitch wear on that, the only ones I like this Jersey. Okay.

Number three for me is last year's alternate Florida panther, Jersey. Ooh. All right, that was the one with the shoulder patch from the old Jersey. And they put it on a sky blue template. So it was a nice one, I liked it. Yeah, that was very good. Number three for me is the,

I think it's the original King's Jersey. It's the purple one with the crown on it. And the other one is yellow. Yeah, the other one's yellow. It's very, very old 80s type hockey. Yeah. But I just, I like that. They had that epic come back against the king,

against the oilers and the playoffs, wearing those jerseys. So I just, you know, very cool. All right, number two for me is the alternate avalanche jerseys that they modeled after the cool perfect no deeks. Okay, the reverse rep, the first reverse rep with the quarterly on the front. That's nice.

That's from a couple of years ago. And that's actually my number two is the original Quebec Norte Tom Jersey. So boom, we're both right there with that one. All right, and my number one is the road Chicago black carcassures. I had a feeling. Yeah. Yeah. No, my number one is I guess it shows my, my, my inexperience and hockey fandom, what are you going to call it? But it's the Arizona coyotes, Kichina uniforms that they brought back this year that they

had in the 90s with like, Nikolai, Hobby Bull and all that. Those were awesome. All right. Coming up next. We have on the NHL network. We have Mike Kelly, who happens to be an analytics expert, and he educates us on numbers. All right, it's time for the 10 minute misconduct.

And in the penalty box, we have Mike Kelly, who is a hockey analyst for the NHL network. He's also an analytics expert, and what I am not, is an analytics expert. So Mike, I want you to explain to me like a six-year-old. Like, is a Washington, said in Philadelphia, like a six-year-old.

Can you explain to me the advanced analytics here in the sport of hockey? Sure. So long and short is, I work for a company called SportLogic. We work with most of the teams in the NHL supplying them, we're third party data company supplying them with information, right? A whole bunch of proprietary stuff that we track that goes beyond what fans would be used to seeing like on NHL.com, goals and hits and all that kind of stuff.

So really what it is is just information product services that help them gain a better understanding of the game, help their staff. Look at the game in a more granular way and ultimately try to make better and more informed decisions. When did you see a change in the way the actual teams use stats, especially analytics here, you stats in the performance of the players. You know what? It's noticeable in different areas. Like in the last, I would say five to seven years, we've seen goal scoring go up a lot,

right? Save percentages have gone down. Offense is kind of taken over. Part of that is because teams over the last decade or so have really started to understand the value of shot quality. And you watch hockey, you know, watch tape from, let's go way back 20 years ago, 30 years ago, 50 years ago, guys get over the blue line, their bombing shots from everywhere. It was a little more chaotic. Today, you see teams hang on to the puck a lot more, really trying to work for those high quality shots and break down opponents that way. Power play, power play

numbers have gone up. Same idea. So that's just one general way where analytics, I think, of help teams understand how to be as productive offensively as you can. We simply have more information on the offensive side of the game than the defensive, but it's, it creeps into the way teams play in a whole bunch of different ways. That's probably the most obvious one recently. Mike, I wanted to ask you about a player that we see a lot of down here that's been talked about a lot this season and that's Sam Reinhart. Obviously, he's having a great year, contract year, scoring a ton of goals, but I don't

feel like it's talked about enough how good he is beyond his goal storing what he does, not just in terms of playmaking and offensive numbers, but possessionally and defensively as well. So I was just wondering if you could kind of expand on a little Sam Ryan heart for us. Yeah, it's a good point. He probably doesn't get talked enough about in general, even though he's scored so many goals. I agree. Just on that side of it, if you watch him play and you watch again where he gets to the

front of the net, his to, the front of the net is hands around the front of the net are really good. Scores a lot, you know, rebounds in tight, right on top of that crease area. Always been a good part of his game. The rest of it, like you said, defensively, he's good. Winning battles on the walls, doing those kind of things. And you know, you got complimentary guys, like Barkov,

who's just an animal everywhere. That line has been, you know, one of the best in the league this season. So it is all around game. You're right. Probably deserves more credit. I just think even as offensive game deserves more credit because he's up there with some of the better players in the league. Alexander Barcov you just mentioned is an animal everywhere. As you said, Verredo. Explain to me defensively. Like I know you said that defensively does not a lot of advanced analytics to describe defensively what a high-cut player should be, but can you describe how Alexander

Bancop is sure far and away the silky trophy winner this year. I'll go with it because we're on this podcast. You're wearing four of Panthers. Here's he, right? So he's up there for sure. He's up there for sure. There's no more birds are on to deal with. There is still things we can look at defensively, right?

And it's gotten, we're getting better. This technology gets better as well in doing that. But Barkov wins a ton of puck battles. He's top three in the league this season in winning puck battles. You just watch the way that he uses his body as frame to angle guys and also just to strengthen win those battles. Stick checks. So separating an opponent from the puck with your stick just poking it away from him. Really good blocking passes in addition to blocking shots is another thing that we measure getting your stick into lanes, breaking up plays that

way. It's really good in all these areas. These are all kind of things that go into his overall game that help him just be the player that he is. So yeah, I'm with you. I'm I'm I throw a love at him for the selfie trophy this season. No question. So in terms of goal story in this year, a guy who I feel like I see all the time is Austin Matthews. I just in my opinion, he's kind of developed into perhaps arguably the best goal store in the lead right now. I don't know if that's something that you would agree with Mike, but just looking around the lead, especially with Conor McDavid and him kind of having a little bit off here. But we, you know,

in terms of the higher archie, I guess, if he's not the best pure goal store in the lead, Austin Matthews has got to be up there and maybe one of the best we've seen on really long time. No? Yeah, no, I'd say flat out he's the best pure goal store in the lead. Awesome, Matthews has got to be up there and maybe one of the best we've seen on really long time, no? Yeah, no, I'd say flat out he's the best goal store in the league. I think in any given year, a past or not could challenge him. I think all these days of challenging that are probably behind him, but we're talking about a big age difference here.

Matthews for me right now, if you can throw one guy over the boards and there's two minutes left and you need a goal, I'm picking Matthews over everybody. It's got 30 goals and 35 games, which is wild. He scored 60 before. The thing that impresses me so much about him is just how versatile he is in the way that he does it. One of the things we track is not only where guys shoot pucks from, but the types of chances

they get. Off the cycle, he's got more chances than anybody. Off the the cycle. He's got more chances than anybody off the forecheck. He's got more chances than anybody off the rush. He's top 10 like you can't take one thing away from this guy and say, okay, that's how we shut him down because he'll beat you four other ways. And it's shot like everybody focuses on because it's so good. Man, he puts so much torque on that stick and he can shoot it so hard. I'd say for sure in my view, he's the much torque on that stick and shoot it so hard. I'd say for sure, in my view, he's the best goal scored today. What about Conor Bedard?

I mean, obviously the Chicago Black OX are in definite rebuilding mode. And it seems pretty clear that he's going to end up with the call to 12 feet a year. So analytically speaking, can you explain kind of a dart? Yeah, for sure. And this is similar elements there to Matthews too, right? Like Bernard literally said he used to watch YouTube videos of Matthews and how he kind of hooks his hands in and shoots the puck tight to his body. We've seen him score like that. He's really, really been productive this season off the rush as well. And again, part of it is because Chicago, if it isn't Bidard, who's it going to be carrying the puck in, right? Like, man, they had a couple of complimentary guys there, you know, and all, uh, haul with the injury and Perry being

gone. Um, it's really unbidard to carry the loan off. So, um, the thing that's crazy about him is it's all a lot of these key areas that we focus on in terms of are you gonna generate offense sustainably right How much do you have the puck in the offensive zone? How often do you enter the zone with possession of the puck? Create chances off the rush beat guys one-on-one and open ice like he's top 20 in the league and a bunch of these areas for a rookie And you think about just 20 great players, right? Kutra, I'm a Ken and

David, you go down the list. He's hanging with a lot of these top guys, part of it out of necessity, but you got to be able to do it too. And it's crazy as an 18 year old kid that he's doing what he's doing. And going from one edge of the age spectrum to the other, a guy that you mentioned a few minutes ago in Alex, so Vetchkin, what's the deal with OV this year? I mean, I guess maybe you did argue father time has caught up with him, but really quickly from one year over the next, but it's just kind of shocking to see such a regression from Alex Ovechkin after a year, a career, excuse me, of just putting up basically 40 goals a year after year.

Yeah, it's been a bit of a cliff for sure. He's starting to score a little more now, which is good. And he's been owed some goals too, because even before this recent little surge, like he shouldn't have been stuck on five goals for as much as he was, two of them were empty netters. But that being said, like there's not as much jump in his game.

Like this isn't, you think about Peek-O-Batchkin and his prime, he's flying around, he's on the forecheck, he's hitting guys, he's creating even off the run, like you know, powering his way to the net. You watch the way he enters the zone now, he pulls up a lot, like there's just not as much jam in his game. It comes with getting older, like you can understand that for sure.

Think about Washington's power play, they've been missing TJO, she for good chunks of the air. Nick Boxer's gone. So there's things around him that are contributing to it too. His shot still is shot. Like it's still to me, you know, very good. He's shooting it from the power play in that spot, you know, about as much.

But there is something a little off just in terms of what we've kind of been used to seeing with him. Over the past decade, not only have we seen a drop in fighting, we also seen a drop in body checking. Analythically speaking, is the game flowing better with the drop in body checking? You know what I would say to that is that a lot of defenders today use their stick to defend.

Maybe more so than the body in the past. I think you get into a playoff series, finishing checks is really important because it wears guys down over time and you know what kind of sets a tone in the game as well. 82 game regular season, these guys can't go around doing that all the time. They're not gonna have anything left for the next game.

I do think that it's become a little, I don't know, for my personal liking is a fan, a little too kind of, you know, not as physical, not as intense, like, you watch a lot of games now. Yeah, you watch a lot of games now and you're like, where's the, where's the chippiness? Where's the animosity? Like, that's, it still exists, you know, at times for sure. like that's, it still exists, you know, at times for sure. But the reality is, if you go around chasing hits, you can put yourself out of position. And again, teams of really valued puck possession and having the puck and getting it back

and being as efficient as you can to get it back. And most of the time, that's not trying to lay a guy out. All right, let's get to this list here. We got the Jersey's list. Mike has provided a list of We got the jerseys list. Mike has provided a list of his favorite hockey jerseys over, you know, since the time he's been watching hockey even beyond that. So you got the top five list here, Mike. Let's go with number five. Okay, I knew we were going to be talking about this. I didn't know I had to have a list in order.

So that's my mind. I told Mike that we were doing jerseys. I didn't tell him that's my bad. You might have told me that. I told you my homework. Yeah, well, you know, you got to do a homework. I'm gonna do a job. Okay. I'm gonna give you five up the top of my head. Okay.

So number five, give me a Quebec Nordese. Nice. I think they had a great look. Great. A bit late on that one. Oh, that's good for bad. Man, I got a noise for it. So like, yeah, I brought it back a little bit late on that one. Oh, that's good. Bad. That is. I got a noise for it.

It's like, yeah, she kind of brought it back a little bit. And I think when a lot of teams bring something back, each week, it had been, it's not that good. I like what Colorado did and I like old school and our deep stuff. Number five. All right. What's number four? Number four.

I'm going to go with a classic Chicago black hawks. Great. Boom. Boom. We should call it number four. Number three. I'm gonna go with a classic Chicago Blackhawks great come BOOM! BOOM! Uh, me Chicago number four. Number three, I'm gonna go with another classic. It might be the all-time classic. It's a Montreal Canadiens.

They haven't tweaked it much in 100 plus years. Why would you? It's beautiful. Mm-hmm. BOOM! Thanks, Danny. He's so quick. He's at that point.

He's at that point, so fast. Mike knows the pause for the crazy sound like Yeah, true professional Mike number two Mike number two. Let me check my list right here that I did not prepare Let me create a list here with my oh Fetitope hand wow all right Number two Hartford Whalers. Oh, yes Oh, yes Give me what I didn't realize for so long. It's like the FedEx logo

Do you see the H in the W? Some point of that out to me like 10 years ago. I'm like the Jersey just gets better over time You also see the Wells tail in the in logos well It's it's got everything you want and more yes, that's number two and number one. I See it conucks jersey on the panel today About a few different jerseys, but the best jersey ever. He's got it within the skate. Oh Free the skate Yeah, this was my guy growing up. So we liked him down here too Yeah, well, he yeah, a couple big years down there. Yeah, see that here too. Yeah, well, he had a couple big years down there. Yes, he did. I love talking to Billy Lindsay over the NHL network and getting the old stories about him. Is there too. So,

that's Skate Jersey to me. I don't know. I grew up with it kind of. There's part of that, but like how it's not there every day Jersey right now. I have no idea. The fans want it. It looks unbelievable. The white version of that jersey, but the skate is awesome. I say bring it back full time. But it needs to be in the 90s Jersey. What they have now with the alternate is they mixed their current Jersey's at least the font is concerned on the back of the Jersey. We're that 90s Jersey. I think they just need to go full old school 90s. Just like I think the senators should do the same thing. They mixed the old jerseys with the front in the back

with those good jerseys. So if you're gonna go old school, don't have acid, go full bear, old school. I'm with you. A hundred percent, a hundred percent agree. I say just go right back to it. It worked and it's beautiful. I don't think any fans anywhere in Vancouver

would be upset with that absolutely michelle the nhan channel network we appreciate you join us thanks mike and thanks for having us