The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Postgame Show: Elite, Good, Average, Ass

Episode Date: December 8, 2023

Welcome back to Roy's Hockey Show, now officially named "The Hockey Show" with Roy. He and David Dwork of The Hockey News begin their conversation with some Panthers talk. They discuss the biggest factors in the Cats' success this season and how their health is just now coming together. Then, Roy and David sort the teams across the NHL into tiers by referring to them as Elite, Good, Average, and Ass. Plus, George Richards, the publisher of Florida Hockey Now, joins the show via the 10-Minute Misconduct to share his opinion on the Panthers' start, potential awards for Panthers players, the emergence of South Florida as a hockey market, and more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Your listening to Giraffe King's Network. Alright, I was told by management to actually give a name to this goddamn show. So I was given a suggestion by said management, which was puck boys, is PUCKBOIS, and I'll be damned. Yeah, that's, if I allow that to happen. So, then management may have been trolling us a little bit. Yeah, I think so. Trying to cut my legs from under me over here.

But yeah, the name of this new show ladies and gentlemen is drumroll The hockey show I love it. Thank you. That's very appropriate. Thank you. The hockey show. My name is Roy Bellamy I work for the Dan Lovato Show with two Godstats David Dworkie. He looks works for the hockey news Yes, uh the Panthers on Wednesday the Wednesday defeated the Dallas stars five to four. It was a really, really good game. They beat a very good Dallas star.

Seamu's currently chasing the Colorado average. And the weighty did that was basically due to first line, David. Yeah, that first line is on fire right now. It's really cool to see Sasha Barkov and Sam Ryan heart clicking because it's something they've tried each year that they've been together now. And while they both put up good numbers, it's never really worked on the same line, but that obviously is not the case this year. They're going bonkers. Sam Reinhardt, he's up there, he's second, I think, in the leading goals right now with 17. You have to talk about him as a possible Moris Rocket Rashard winner at this point, just because

we're more than quarter into the season. And Reinhardt's always been such a streaky guy, where he'll go like, you know, a 10 game span where he'll score like 15 or 20 points, he'll put up 10 goals, and then he'll go 10 games where he'll put up like two points. But that's not really the case this year. This year it's all coming in big bunches. He's got, I think, almost half of his games.

He's got multi-point games. So yeah, that first line, I don't want to say he's carrying the team because this team is so built so well up and down defensively and they've been getting contributions, you know, whether it's from the defense, whether it's from the bottom six, but that first line is scary good right now. Yeah, and Evan Rodriguez right now, he, on Wednesday, he got four points. He scored twice and had to assist. Second time this year, he's had four points.

I mean, he's, yeah, that, that, that first line is really, really, really coming together. And the second line, pretty good too. Well, now that Sam Bennett is back healthy, because he's, he's just that secret sauce that really just makes it work with that line. Did he get a card of her hate? He last year's 40 goals for, you know, he's a sniper. Yeah, Matthew Kitchak, who's kind of off to a pretty slow start this year with only four goals through 24 games, whatever it is, but he's still doing everything else

that he brings to the table well, including facilitating the plot. I think he's like 15 assists at this point. Yeah. But still, that second line does so much good, all 200 feet of the ice. And that's really the whole team. That's their persona at this point,

is they play great defensive hockey. That's why last night's game as we're referring this on a Thursday against the Dallas stars was so much fun because it was so back and forth. Yeah. And you look at that second line with Sam Bennett and Matthew Kitchuk. I mean, there are a lot of pissed off hockey players out there because of those two. Yeah, it's funny. Every time I tweet about Sam Bennett, there's always at least one or two fan bases. Honestly, it's Maple Leafs fans hate Sam Bennett. Oh, of course. Oh my god, they do not like... But yeah, it's funny.

Those two players, I mean, you got to chuck everybody in Western Canada, I think, other than people in Calgary don't like Matthew Kitchuck. And they just go out there with a big smile and they don't really feed into it, per se, but they don't shy away from it either. I think it's just who they are and it's their personas and It's just kind of it takes me back always the Roy takes me back to this this room that the Panthers have built because they've got all high character great guys

Yeah, there's some guys on the ice who you hate and even going before this year to guys like Radco Gouda's But I mean you got you Matthew Kitchock and the Sam Bennett Jonah Gattavitch is kicking everybody's butt this year to Chuck in the sand Bennett. Oh, Jonah Gattavitch is kicking everybody's butt this year. Ryan Lomburg. Ryan Lomburg gets under everybody's skin Tampa fans. Hate Ryan Lomburg. Oh my God.

So again, these are all great guys that just do the right things on the ice. Bill Zito is just going to hell the job. Talked about Sam Bennett and I'm going to mention random on toward Aaron Ecklad here. The Panthers, especially Sam Bennett, who came back from injury twice. Twice. Twice. And we saw the difference for him

in the lineup during the Boston game. In and out, a lineup during that game in particular. Yeah. The Panthers are still on to get healthy, like fully, fully healthy. Well, the fact that they were able to come out of not being healthy while still being second in the Atlanta division and still playing this great team brand of hockey.

And then you just sprinkle in a few all star type caliber players and Aaron at Brad Brandon Montor and Sam Bennett. And yeah, it gives you a lot of excitement. I guess if you're a Florida Panthers fan, just when you see how good the team was playing a team collective game. And then you add such elite high caliber players to the lineup. And we see the Panther fans have seen how important San Benna particularly is to that lineup because of what happened last year before and during the playoffs. So now it's all kind of coming

together. They're just coming off of a Stanley Cup final appearance. It's, yeah, it's very exciting. It's, you know, I don't want to get ahead of myself, but this Panther's team, they could really be on the custom of doing something special. Yeah, I mean, I don't want to get a atom myself, but this Panther's team, they could really be on the cusp of doing something special. Yeah, I mean, think about it with the players out of the lineup and the Panthers, they just survive it. They thrived and was able to get themselves off to a good start. Yep. And now everybody's back and now everybody and now the entire team can play as a collective unit now.

Yep. It's, it's a great time. We've, as've talked about many times, the Panthers are a team that has been notorious to getting off to bad starts and having to collect themselves and work really hard the second half of the year just to get into the playoff so that it'll and making any damage there. Now, it's a bit different. They're starting the seasons well. You kind of know, okay, this season is probably going

to end with a playoff, so what's next? First, it was winning that first playoff round. They did that two years ago against Washington. Last year was okay. They've been learning this new brand of hockey that's supposed to be good in the playoffs. Let's see if it happens. Well, it happened. The Panthers became maybe the best team in the lead when they were full healthy at the end

of last season and in the playoffs. Now you're seeing it all kind of happening collectively over this course of time. And yeah, like I said before, it's just without getting to ahead of myself, it's cool to think what this team could really accomplish based on A, how much talent and they brought together and B, the way that they're playing this great team brand of hockey. Let's talk about the special teams for a second. The Panthe score to Powerplay goal on Wednesday, but they gave up two Powerplay goals against the Stars. Now, up until that point, the Ponykill, that's been pretty decent.

Penalty kill has been great. I think it was the third or fourth best in the league, all of November. Dallas is a team with a lot of firepower. And I think they're both of their power play goals. I remember the last one for short came right off of face offs. So it wasn't necessarily where the penalty shows had a chance to set up and do their jam damage. But yeah, even so, the penalty kill for Florida has been probably the most consistent element

of their special teams the last six weeks. The power play, they just went back to the very successful power play that they used last year of Brennan Montor being the only defenseman and then Kitschuk, Reinhart, Barkov and Sam Bennett. That unit is back together. I think three or four games now. You're starting to see that cohesiveness come together. And again, with Montor, even he spoke, I think after practice on Tuesday the day before the game, and he said like, it's taking him some time to get the comfort level to just really feel himself back in. There's remember these guys are only eight games in, nine games in Montor and X-Blad to

their seasons. So it's going to take some time. The power play, I'd be really surprised if it doesn't start clicking at some point just because of they've got so much power and so much talent on that power play. How about the second power play line? You've got a lot of residual talent, whether it's Carter Verhady, whether it's Antalind Dell, Aaron Eckblad is going to be on that Oliver Reckman Larson. They could both be on that and have two defensemen on a very potent power play. So yeah, you would think, and that's the power play that's toward, but Evan Rodriguez getting the power play goal against the Dallas stars last night.

So yeah, that's, that's the unit that, when you talk about the depth of the Panthers, that power play is really deep too. We have George Richards coming up later in this show, but I'm going to play a game when we're going to play this game with him as well of tears. We have four tears. Love the tear game. Yeah. Love the tear game because we love sort of these things out into compartments, right? So we have the elite teams, the good teams, the average teams, and the ass of the league. So let's start with the Eastern Conference.

We're going to go with the Metro. The New York Rangers are currently leading the Metropolitan and the Vision by A-Light. Yeah. So let's start with them all day elite. That's the only Metro team I've got in elite right now. I was pretty specific. You, when you, when you sent me these,

these tears the other day and you literally sent me elite, good average ass. And that's what I had to work with. Ass was in all caps, by the way. Of course it was. Yeah. So the, I've only got five teams right now in the entire league that I consider elite. Just because I think that's a high honor.

Yeah, go ahead and name them. So the Rangers, got the Boston Bruins, the Colorado Avalanche, the Vegas Golden Knights, and the Los Angeles Kings scared the Jesus out of me right now without well-der playing. Yeah, that's a team that plays good playoff hotly. So those are my elite teams. Now I was telling you before we got started

that I kinda had to split good and average into a couple minor tiers or whatever you wanna call them, sub-tears. Cause you got like Florida, Carolina, and Dallas, right? And Winnipeg. Those are teams that I feel like are right on the cusp of the elite to good border. So that was kind of the upper echelon of good. Beyond that, and this is where like you really start getting into the fun, because Vancouver,

like they get this amazing start. How real are they? Right, yeah. But they're good. Detroit, who I know we're going to talk, we're going to be talking about this year because they were already a decent team, not a Yapphattracane. Yeah. I've got Toronto in there, and I don't have Toronto with the elite teams

because Toronto's just kinda like, can't keep the plaque out of the net. I was gonna say kinda like Edmonton, but Edmonton's come around. Edmonton, who's towards the bottom of the standings, they're in the same category. In the good category. As is Arizona, I've got Arizona in the good category.

That's actually not surprising to me. Right? And in them playing at a 9,000 seat arena for very cool. It's very intimate. So I guess the feeling off of the electricity of that. They're just playing good solid defensive hockey. They can put the puck in the net and they're being consistent.

And really, what more can you ask for from a team like Arizona? It was really good zero respect across the lead. And then rounding out good. I got Nashville and Tampa. Nashville's been on fire lately. They've got great goal tending. Tampa, I'm not sleeping on it all. Okay, I got Nashville and Tampa. Nashville's been on fire lately. They've got great goal tending. Tampa, I'm not sleeping on it all. Okay, we got two minutes left.

Let's go through the average before we get to the big ol' asses of low. Okay, the average but good. So the top tier of average, I've got the Devils who we saw last year, how good they could be. Same thing with the Minnesota wild. I'm surprised that they've been as bad as they've been. Washington Capital, they probably should be above with the good teams. I'm just not

sold that they're going to be consistent yet. They've had a very decent start to the season. As have the Philadelphia Flyers surprisingly, they survived the Carter Heart injury. He's back. They're playing well under torts. So those are the better average teams. And then below them, you got the Blues, your Pennwings, the Islanders, Calgary, Montreal, San Jose, who I don't have in the ass of the league because I think they've been playing a lot better. And Ottawa, who also, despite being at the bottom of the standings, they haven't played that many games.

So Ottawa is a decent team and they could be a potential playoff caliber type sneaky team as well. That makes me happy that the sharks are not in the ass. Sharks have been playing some good hockey the last couple of weeks. Good, good for them. Yes. Good for Giovanni Smith and good for Andy DeClair. Let's go with the ass. Sharks have been playing some good hockey the last couple of weeks. Good, good for them. Yes. Good for Giovanni Smith and good for Andy DeClair.

Let's go with the ass. The ass. Well, at the top of the ass is like Seattle, who was a playoff team last year. They just have not figured out this year. Buffalo, who cannot get out of their own way. They've dealt with a lot of injuries this year. Columbus is Columbus. Anaheim with an amazing start to this year just totally fell off a cliff.

And Anaheim is now what they were last year. And the Chicago Black Oxt, the Conor Bedard, the shine of that, the fun start. I think that's worn off a bit. And Chicago's kind of fallen into their own issues as well. All right. It's the Tim Minimus Conduct. We got coming in the Pony Box at first by the name of George Richards from Florida hockey now and the NHL calm. This guy has been covering the Florida panties for a

Very, very long time almost two decades and it doesn't show on his face. Hey George, how you doing? That was this kind. That was as nice and intro as I've ever gotten. Hey, listen, what professional He's an old, he's an old guy He doesn't look like it. Come on. Yeah, well I'm doing an old guy. He doesn't look like it. Come on, yeah? Well, I'm an old guy. I don't look like it. No, you really don't.

Yeah, thank you. Thank you very much. You're a good looking man. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. You're everything, you know. Good. Thank you.

Thank you very much. Very nice. I mean, it's all in this room. Hey, yeah, a lot of love. I mean, need the love around here. The Florida Panthers are having a pretty incredible season considering how they started with, you know, like, a quarter of the roster not being there,

but they're having a very good season. In fact, you look at a Wednesday's game against Dallas. You look at the first line and you saw how they played. It was, it was amazing. And we look at the trophies and you saw how they played. It was amazing. And we look at the trophies at the end of the season. It pretty much seemed like Alexander Barcarve is going to win the silky trophy. Don't you agree?

Well, I think he's going to be right in it. I mean, it's a little early. We're about a quarter of the way through the season. But yeah, I think anytime you talk about top defensive forwards, Sasha Barkov is right there. He won the award a couple years ago. And last year was in the, you know, would have been in the running for it. Had he not had the injuries and this, this thus far this season, he hasn't been hurt. So now he's just, he's absolutely terrific. I talked to Paul Maurice just on the side. We were talking about Sam Reinhardt and he was just

braving about Sasha Barkhoff and how while Reinhardt's got all the goals and stuff, Barkhoff does so much stuff that nobody really pays any attention to and so does Reinhardt. I mean, those guys go against the opposition's best and they're still producing, yeah, I mean, you said i i i think he's a favorite for it especially with the attention that the panthers are getting no doubt uh... speaking to sam ryanhardt uh... obviously has all the goals this season uh... all the all the all the i mean he's going all all of those dog on goals uh... the marisa rick recharged trophy uh... do you think he's a candidate for that and

is there a possibility, a slim possibility that if he continues this through the all-star break, they could be considered for the Hontrofi? Well, perhaps. I mean, you'd have to... The rocket Roshartofi goes to the player who scores the most goals. So, yeah, he's definitely in the running for it because he is right up there at the top of the lead right now. He's on pace to score 55 goals, 56 goals. His career high is 33. So he is having an absolute blistering start to his season.

As far as heart trophy stuff goes, I mean, a little early for those, that kind of talk, but we'll see how the Panthers do. If he's able to carry this this this kind of a season through, if he has anywhere near 50 goals in the Florida Panthers, you know, end up winning the Atlantic or something. Yeah, I think, you know, a guy like that would be right in that mix, but then again, so would a guy player like Barkov and let's see what Matt you can chuck, you know,

ends up doing. He's off to a slow start but if he was able to pick it up here in this final two-thirds of the season you know who knows yeah that's what we're talking about before the show George was that like this time last year nobody was talking about that you to check as a heart trophy guy and you know look at the second half that he had so that's gonna change uh... i can change it yeah because for what you know you look at this the position

for it was in first half of the year they didn't even have a three game winning streak. So vast, vast change from from last year. So when you look at this forward group for the Florida Panthers George I obviously we've talked a lot even just now talked a lot about this the top line the barcov Ryan Hart and Evan Rodriguez and the Chemistry that they're growing but just overall the way that the Florida Panthers, not that they're healthy, are able to throw four pretty consistent forward lines at you, whether you got your top six, which are great on both ends of the ice, you've got a third line centered by Anton Lendell that's showing up great defensively. Then you've got this fourth line that just smats you in the face every time they're on

the ice. The fourth is that it'd be one of, if not the deepest forward groups in the NHL. Yeah, I would definitely agree with that, especially when you talk about that fourth line that just seems to enjoy going out there to create some havoc. I mean, you've got Kevin Stenland, who's just, he seems like the same guy out there and then you've got Robert and then Gettga Vitch

just running around like crazy people. There's a lot of fun out there and they play a responsible game. They don't take dumb penalties, really. I think that was kind of the knock on the fourth line in years past, and maybe they ran people a little too much, but they've been playing smart and they've been playing effective. So when you talk about a deep forward group, yeah, I think you start with the Panthers because you look at that center line. You're going bark off, then it, Anton Lundell,

and Stenland, who is a very under the radar signing on July 1, that, listen, this is the guy that Bill Zito picked to replace Eric Stahl. Talked to him at the draft just before free agency. And he was like, we have a number of positions we want to upgrade. One of those was the fourth line center position. They let Eric Stahl walk. They thought Kevin Stenlin was going to be an upgrade at that position.

So far, he has been. We as humans like to sort things out and put things into cabinets, right? So we're going to do that when I ask for hockey league. And we have four tiers that we like to put out to use so we can sort these hockey teams out. We have the elite tier, we have good, we have average, and we have ass. So let's start with the Atlantic division and the Florida Panthers. Where are they in those four tiers? that's what I'm saying. So, let's start with the Atlantic division and the Florida

Panthers. Where are they in those four tiers? I think they're on the bottom side of the lead because this is a team that went to the Stanley Cup final. They're in second place in the Atlantic right now. They could be battling for first place. I think is is Boston going to be able to carry through their start through the through the whole season? I don't think they will. So I think the Atlantic is still going to be up for grabs grabs. So I would say at the bottom end of the elite to very good.

Oh, I'm okay. And the Boston Bruins are obviously in the elites, the elite to sure. Right, but I could see them dropping down. Absolutely. Okay, the Detroit Red Wings are in third place in the Atlantic. The. Sure. Right, but I could see them dropping down. Absolutely. Okay. The Detroit Red Wings on a third place in the Atlantic division. Patrick Kane is in the fold now. And it looks like they're on the rise. What tier do you have them in? I have them at the very good. I mean, I think that that's the team. When you talked about the Atlantic division coming into this season, you had your, you know, the teams you knew were good. Florida, Boston, Tampa Bay, Toronto, then you had the young group Buffalo Detroit Ottawa, which one of those teams would make

the jump. It's been Detroit. They've been absolutely terrific. I love the way they play. I love their coach. I like the way they're built. And now they get Patrick Kane last night. That's a great move for them. I mean, that absolutely is. He's a veteran player. He can do a lot of things. We'll see how, you know, how this season treats him with that hip surgery. That's a major surgery.

We saw him last night make his debut with the Red Wings, but let's see how it goes through the season. He picked Detroit because the travel's not really that bad. They don't have a whole lot of their games or hour flights, you know, so it's not that bad for him. It's going to be interesting. I think he was a real good pick up. A lot of people down here were like, oh Florida Panthers don't need Patrick Kane. Yeah, yeah, you could definitely use a guy like that. You put him on the right side of that third line. You got something. You put him on that first power play. You've got something. So good for him. He went to Detroit. That's where he wanted to go. But I think the Florida panthers are right in that mix. And I think he would have been a good addition.

Before we wrap up talking about the other teams in the Eastern Conference, I did just want to ask you, Georgie, as you consider the Panthers one of the elite teams out there. Who do you think is their biggest competition in the Eastern Conference right now? Well, I think it comes from within the Atlantic, right? Because that's where they're going to be. Last year they were the second wild card. So they could have played the top Metro team, but they ended up staying in the Atlantic against Boston. So it's going to be Toronto Boston Tampa Bay.

Unless Florida wins the Atlantic and gets one of the wild cards out of the Metro, I think you just look within your division and that's your competition. And again, you worry about what's at the end, at the end. Last year was the Carolina Hurricanes. This year could be the New York Ranger is waiting on the other side. So or someone else, maybe Pittsburgh makes a run. Who knows what's going to happen in the Metro, but it'll be interesting just like last year was sure. You look at the attendance at the Florida Panthers games now at Emmer and Bank of Arena and

yes, they named it Emmer and Bank of Arena. Thank God somebody gave them a name and they could pay for the arena. But anyway, the attendance has gone up. The season tickets in the lower ball has, I mean, effectively gone. Almost gone, yeah. It's basically gone. And you're looking to up a deck. I mean, that's field two.

I mean, Wednesday's game, that was great attendance for a game versus the Dallas stars on a Wednesday night. I mean, the games on Thanksgiving week were filled. So I mean, this is a stark change between now and when you started covering the Panthers long, long, long time ago, right? It was so long ago. My goodness, it was so long. It's been a long time.

Yeah, it's unbelievable. I told Pete the boy yesterday or the other when Dallas was here, we were talking. I was like, tonight is going to be the biggest crowd you've seen in this building since the 2012 playoffs when he was here with New Jersey. Just because every time one of his team comes here, whether it's Vegas or San Jose or Burdales, that's not a game that really draws. Sometimes there's been 10,000 people in the building and this place is a ghost town. It's a 20,000 seat barn and when it, you know, 14,000 seems empty here. Last night they have, Wednesday night, they had 18,500. Like you said, Roy, those last four rows are always the last to sell.

Those were packed on our side. So it really is, on a Monday night against Columbus, they had 18, 7. I mean, that's just unbelievable for this market. So it has been something that's been building. We always said not only do the Panthers have to win, but they have to win consistently because you can't just all of a sudden go from last place to being a Hentender and sell a bunch of tickets.

It takes a couple of years to build that up. Now we've seen this team in the playoffs three straight years. You saw last year this team able to sell season tickets during a long postseason run where that guaranteed them playoff tickets. So people bought season tickets for this year. You're seeing that manifest itself. So they've definitely moved back into the top four here in South Florida into the pecking order because Because for a while there, they were below the race at home, instead. No, man. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I guess has it been covering them the last couple of years with with so much winning and so much positivity because you've covered it through some some dark times the dark ages that we don't really refer to that much

Some up and down times, but how just nice has it been from a journalist standpoint of covering a team that's had so much success Well, I you know, I covered the panthers when I first started was the major league years, right? I mean you tell people you covered the floor to panthers and like they still have a team. I'm like, yeah, uniforms and everything. So everything is really neat. You know, that's when you walk into the sandwich shop across the street and there was a stack of tickets like that. Yeah.

We ran, you molar had a stack in his pocket. He's like, Georgia, go get 18 of your friends and make sure they stand the ticket. So we get credit for the attendance. I mean, it was bad. And things have slowly built, but let's not forget a couple of years ago, they were averaging 14,000 years. So it's taken a while, it's taken a while for this organization to build into a winner.

I think that's the biggest thing because David, you remember 2016, this team wins the Atlantic. because David, you remember 2016, this team wins the Atlantic, they've got Yager and Ekblad and Barclough and all this great feeling. And then, you know, they have the 2016-17 season where they're back out of the playoffs, they don't make it back until 2021. I mean, you know, this team could, you know, this organization sometimes couldn't get out of its own way and now you're seeing this, this, this, this pretty sustained success. Like I tell people, I'm like, you know, you talk about the good old days, these are them for the Florida Panthers. This team's never been to the playoffs this many years in a row. And that's kind of sad and sad when you look at teams around the league. This is the first time this team's ever been to the playoffs, three straight years.

They're going on four. They've been to the Stanley Cup finals now twice. I mean, we'll see where they go from here, but there's a pretty good little run they're on and they're built to keep it going. Covering the Florida Pantist for Florida Hockey now and the National Hockey League for NHL.com is George Richards.

George, please stop. Make sure that Kobe guy stops walking in the camera shot, please. Can you tell him to be a professional? You don't know what's going on. Well, this is a media work group, I think. Oh, yeah, sure. There's media work. I thought that was just the background.

I thought that was just your zoom background. Yeah, I thought that was your bedroom for a second with these kind of lights recessed lighting thank you George thank you guys see you later