The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Postgame Show: Hersey Hawkins' Dastardly Moustache

Episode Date: May 28, 2025

Juju tells us why Tom Thibodeau is coaching himself out of the Hall of Fame and gives us his Top 5 Most Hated Athletes. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Juju's been doing post game shows after every playoff game. Catch Alley Oop wherever you get podcasts or on YouTube. Definitely check it out. He's got a host of special guests that come by. You won't hate what you see. You're gonna be all types of surprises. Some days it's Trista Crick. Some days it's me, some days it's some other people from all quarters. Zach Harper's been on there. The carcass of Zach Harper walks in. Zach Harper having a moment. Is he having a moment?

Is he weird? Why? Isn't he? How? Well he was here for that show, we did that, that's why. Oh, that's the moment. Oh, yeah, he's having a moment, there you go. But Juju, before we get to the polls,

I wanna ask you, you wanted to talk about having a challenges coach. I think I know what you're talking about, but please explain ask you, you wanted to talk about having a Challenges coach. I think I know what you're talking about, but please explain to us what you're talking about. No, I just said I had an amendment to the coaches challenge segment that you and Nick Wright had earlier. I think that players and teams should be fined $100,000 each failed challenge because you're wasting time.

We could have played a commercial. We gotta pay these bills around here. And instead we watching the referee go over and you wasting our time. So $100,000 fine to each coach, player, team who uses a challenge and it's unsuccessful. I think they had to clean it up. I think, first of all, the problem is

when you get these guys making $50 million a year, $100,000, it's worth it for me to just do this all the time. The thing I hate is- Are you saying make it higher? Yeah, make it a percentage. A million dollars? A percentage of your salary. There it is.

Then we clear this up. Which, by the way, it's crazy. I can't remember which player it was in the WNBA, but she got fined something like $10,000. I'm like, you can't find her $10,000 when her salary is $50,000. That makes no sense. You can't fine people the same amounts across different sports. When they're making different money.

When they're making different money. It's ridiculous. Let's change it to percentages. I feel like that's it. Every fine should be a percentage. That way we all feel it the same. Yes? Right. Right. Right. Also coaches who use they challenge before the first, the fourth quarter, you don't understand life, you don't understand justice, and you don't understand liberty for all. Terrible challenge for Rick Carlisle yesterday,

but he survived it. Right. I don't like when the players call for the challenge on something that's so insignificant. First quarter, ball went out of bounds, I didn't touch it. Oh, the challenger, like who cares? It's wild that they always think it's their ball though. I just want one time a guy to be like, no it's clearly the other way.

That happened where Shane Gilder said Alexander, I think it was against the Nuggets, he like touched it and then Dagnaut looks at his message, starts going to the challenge and he's like no no no no, no, no, he actually runs over, tries to like bear hug him. So, Shane Gilder's Alexander has done that. But for the most part, like I said, it doesn't even matter whether it is truly their ball or not. It's that, who cares?

Out of bounds playing the first quarter, who cares? The ball went off me, coach. Yeah, there you go. You want someone to challenge that, right? Also, Tom Thibodeau is coaching himself out of the Hall of Fame and directly onto the hot seat. Oh boy. I'm sorry.

When you got Landry Shammin getting Miles McBride's minutes and you putting out the line right in them big minutes and they're not producing as much as the plus minus of Miles McBride, how he has the effect on the game. I question it. Like you tinkering with the lineups way too late in the season for him to be unsuccessful. Two games ago, he sat Carl Anthony Towns on the bench

for a majority of the fourth quarter. I don't understand. So Tibbs, he better straighten up. I don't think he's on the hot seat, but I never viewed Thibodeau as a Hall of Famer. Now I know everyone gets into the basketball Hall of Fame, but he can't be coaching himself out of the Hall of Fame. He's not in the Hall of Fame, right?

The personification of the DeLon Wright minutes where there's an inbounds pass, DeLon Wright steals it, tries to go up and under around, misses the layup, then Halliburton comes back on that missed layup and then hits a three and they're down nine. And he's like, oh, damn. The long right, he like it by the way. He is.

Also Chris Fanch, the Minnesota Timberwolves coach. He is coaching himself into the Saskatchewan Rough Rider team. No! For like switching sports. Right, I think they're gonna demote that brother. He is. Out of the sport.

I've never seen a coach make so many mistakes as him. Like you said earlier, you know you got 0.3 seconds and you know you got, the team is about to fire you. That's their MO. And you drawing up plays with them swooping, Nasri swooping away from the goal. It's like, come on, bro. What is these NBA coaches getting paid for

if not to draw up a scheme to effectively win the game? And I've yet to see him do so. Juju, I want to help your take here. Next time you bring that up, you got to say he's going to coach his way back to the Sheffield Sharks, which is an actual TV coach in the British Basketball League. The Sheffield Sharks. I'd look to the Sheffield Sharks.

Juju, we had Keith Yandel on. He has an irrational hate for Vijay Singh. I am told that you have top five athletes that you hate. So I am excited for this. Okay. I absolutely do. And we also got, it's a Wild Billy Wednesday. So he did lay down the gaunt for my brother Billy,

the gauntlet for a celebrity boxing match. Charity boxing. Did you accept that challenge Billy or is it like under the bridge? No, I have a neck thing. Yeah, I got a neck thing. You should put the brace back on. Pinched nerve going on there.

I wouldn't get cleared to do that. I hate when that happens. Timing just isn't great for celebrity boxing. Next year maybe, next year. Maybe. Well, we'll see. Maybe. Right now, I'm in a program, we'll see how long it lasts.

I don't know when I'll get cleared. It's like when you go to the doctor, they're like, what are you doing next March? And you're like, I don't know. Yeah, long time IR. When they wanna book that next week? 11.30, put me there, for sure. Can I share with you guys real quick

just a doctor thing that I got? So I got a text, the one like, one year from now, we'll see you again, right? And it was my dermatologist. And it's supposed to be June 10th, and I wasn't gonna be able to make that. And they told me, hey, your doctor is on maternity, would you like to reschedule or see another doctor?

And I was like, well, how long is the doctor gonna be on maternity for? And then I'll decide if I wanna see you. I see the doctor once a year, I don't have this personal bond or friendship or whatever with the doctor, it's the dermatologist, whatever, so I'm like, when does the doctor come back? They're like, she comes back June 9th,

and I'm like, hold on a second. Run this by me again, they're like, yeah, but just Monday, Wednesday, Friday, and I'm like, so I guess my appointment's on a Tuesday, I'm like, I'll just make my appointment on a Wednesday, I don't understand this complication here, why are we over-complicating things? Wait, is it June 9th, 2026?

You know, I didn't ask for clarification. I'll do that. Oh, man. But my understanding was, doctors back the day before, but we gotta reschedule yours. That's all. Juju, you gotta top five! I don't wanna see a different doctor.

I wanna see the same doctor. I don't like that option. If you see him once a year, who cares? That's kinda what I'm thinking too, right? I'll just reschedule for, I don't know. Juju, your thoughts? OLI, Juan Guzman. What? Why?

I don't lie, I never liked him. There was something about him, take your pitcher ball and just pitch somewhere else. You don't need reasons for this list. You just don't like him, Juju, that's it. Right. Okay. Also, second OLI, Craig come change it. That's it. Right. Also second OLI, Craig Elo.

Oh. P-U. Poor Craig Elo, man. That was pretty good defense he played. It just Jordan was a little bit better. A lot. Right. Number five, Chuck Knoblok.

Oh! Oh yeah, yeah. Thank you, legend. Ogren calls there at first base. Get him out of my life. Couldn't throw from here to there. Without like, shit was going everywhere. From here to there.

From here to there, man, that shit. Number four, the Seattle Supersonics, Hersey Hawkins. Oh, I liked him. It was the mustache, Juju. It was the little mustache, and that was it. He didn't have any other picture. Hersey Hawkins.

Yeah. Dasterly mustache. Yes, he did. It was a d, Juju. It was the little mustache, and that was it. He didn't have any other facial hair. Let's knock it. Dasterly mustache. Yes, he did. It was a dasterly mustache. Number three, Sasha Vujicic. Oh. Come on, with the little headband and the hair? Come on.

Sasha Vujicic. By the way, behind the scenes, he is a jerk. He deserves to get hated. Yeah. Number two, Jeff Hornacek. Oh, man. Horny. Horny.

Horny's a nice guy, but Jerry Stachows got on top of him and just beat the shit out of him. And that was... Oh, damn. You never remember that? Jerry Stachows, I've never seen someone like a more lopsided fight between someone who clearly didn't want to fight and someone who was like, I've had enough of you. Who's always looking for a fight.

Yeah. Oh, boy. He beat the shit out of him. And number one, Patrick Mahomes. What? Wow. That's how a buffalo. Juju, I'm trying to do my home's voice and I, not quite. Come on, man.

It's a little, Cremat the Frog. I try. Cremat the Frog. Come on, Juju. I've been smoking a couple of cigarettes. We'd be friends, Juju. Yeah. We wouldn't be friends. I him the frog. I've been smoking a couple of cigarettes. We'd be friends, Juju. Yeah. We wouldn't be friends.

I love the bills too much. Josh Adler is my friend. Salute to Haley Stanfield. Also salute to Paige Becker for becoming the first player in WNBA history with 60 points and 30 assists through her first five games. Congrats. Magnificent.

Thought he was talking about one game first. I was like, that's a game! Juju, I wanna ask you something about Paige Becker's. I was watching Wings versus Dream, a game that I believe you were at. And I was surprised, cause she came out and she was playing really well early and then down the stretch,

they kind of sat her for a while. Is this some like, oh, you're a rookie, you gotta earn your stripes thing? Or what was happening there? Nah, bro, every single game for the wing so far, I've had my questions about their coach. They got a new coach.

They served my sister out last year, but it's like, bro, like he makes these lineup adjustments. He doesn't play Nalissa Smith as much as I think he should. He doesn't play Big T, Tiara McGowan as much as she should. Arikay be struggling. I think if you're gonna sit someone, maybe you should sit a little Arikay, let her get her wheels under her,

because Paige, she never has a flaw. Like, I'm not saying she never has a flaw, but she never has lulz in the game. She's playing, I'm watching her play, and I'm like, why isn't she in the game right now? Because whenever she's out there, she's making things happen. Right, every single time.

But yeah, absolutely Pablo Torre threatening to sue UNC for besmirching his facts. I know you can do that as a black man. I done been accused and besmirched a lot. So I'm, I'm not gonna need to text Pablo to see how I can get that suing thing going. Not to him nor there. There's smirching out here.

All right, Juju, at LeBattard Show on Twitter, if you'd like to vote on the polls, what do you have in terms of polls today? What sounds more exciting to win, a Peabody or a Potty? 74% of the audience says a Peabody. Oh, come on, guys. Potty's. Who is clutchier, Jalen Brunson or Tyrese Halliburton?

Oh, man. 72% of the audience says Halliburton. No, I was thinking about this. What have you done for me lately? I think, no, no, no. I think Jalen Brunson, if you define a clutch game, which is five minutes under five points, I think Jalen Brunson is clutch for that amount of time

better than Halliburton. Is Halliburton just a better shooter in clutch time? He's also up three one. Yeah. Well, body of work. I'm with you, Tony. So, you're right. Like, if it were three one Knicks, but the all the stats are the

same about Halliburton being eleven to twelve or whatever. Yes. I think we'd be talking about Brunson is more clutch. He'll be the clutchiest. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Do all statues have great butts? Yes. Sixty four percent of the audience says yes, they do. Where the 30%?

What statues are they looking at? The ones with the acetone. Can the best athlete in the world be a hockey player? Sixty two percent of the audience says no, he cannot. Are you serious? Dan wanted me to jump in with basketball players and said, Dan, 62% of the audience says no he cannot. Are you serious dude? Dan wanted me to jump in with basketball players and said Dan just let the man cook man. With a good take.

I'm just saying they're doing artists on skates. Have you seen Derrick Henry? Yeah do it on your feet. Exactly right. That's the thing Roy if you ask them to do it on their feet they're not going to be as good as that. Even the playing field of. That's not the sport. No sport. That's not the sport. We them to do it on their feet They're not gonna be as good as that if we even the playing field of that's not the sport no Athlete tell how fast they are there on ice athlete. Yeah Gliding yeah

Apollo Anton Oh to want to track you know what I mean slow as hell pretty much last poll Vijay Singh good or okay? It's a tight one. 51% of the audience says he's good. Yeah. That was a margin. Thank you, Juju. Thank you. Thank you. I'll leave Thursday after Nick Pacers. Hey, thank you, brother.