The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Postgame Show: HE'S ON DRUGS!
Episode Date: December 6, 2024We have a Friday Postgame Show as a bonus for the week's content, and it is LOADED. We kick things off with an insightful and emotional interview from 'Tony Tunite' as Tony chats with MMA star Uly "Mo...nster" DÃaz at El Palacio de los Jugos right here in Miami. Then, the crew is divided on their interest level in the new Aaron Rodgers documentary on Netflix. Is it an interesting football comeback story if the comeback wasn't actually successful? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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With which boy? With which boy?
Be happy. Last time you had a jugo de melón. It's been a while, man. Enjoy this. Gracias. Gracias.
Yeah.
Juli, what makes Miami so special?
The melon juice.
Now, Miami is a special place, man.
It's a melting pot.
All different types of people from all different types of the world.
I think it's a great place to grow up, truly.
Great place to be.
We're both born and raised in Miami, three or five kids.
You're 10 years older than I am, so you got to experience a bit of a different Miami growing
up than I did.
Yeah.
What are the memories that kind of made you?
I joined the military when I was 18.
I got in trouble, got kicked out of the military at 19.
Put myself in prison as a young man.
It was always for fighting on the street.
I started traveling the world with Pitbull.
Pitbull is my brother.
I grew up with him.
He was already taking off his trajectory,
was going up in his career.
So he took me around the world with him being his security.
But just got myself back into bad situations
and started doing the wrong thing again
and get lost in that, man.
And you know, in the blink of an eye,
you go from 25 to 35, you know?
What taught you more, the military or prison?
In the military, I got in at a real young age.
It did give me a sense of structure where you I got in at a real young age. It did give me
a sense of structure where you had to be at certain places on time. Everything had to be organized and
everything that comes with the military. And then once I got to prison it's kind of the same concept
you're not on time you miss it whether it's meals or classes or anything you got to do.
And the thing that prison gives you that it's hard to find in the outside world is that
you're in there with a ton of people that are going through a hard time in their life so you
pick up this psychology you kind of figure out how to flow in conversations and with different
people in different situations. How did that transition into the structure of combat sports
whether it be boxing, MMA, whatever that you know you. Went back to Fifth Street Gym, which is my gym.
I was with those guys since they opened back in 2011.
And they took me in with open arms.
They made me accountable.
Whenever I was missing, if I would miss a day at the gym,
they'd call me because they knew where I was coming from.
They didn't want me to step back into it.
So they're like, yo, where you at?
Where you at?
Being in the gym every day, working my butt off for hours,
gave me consistency.
And consistency opened many doors for me.
You know, if something happens on the street
where before I used to let my temper kind of take over,
now with all my training, I kind of take a step back,
analyze the situation, and move forward accordingly.
You know, I'm not-
It's almost like the more badass you are,
the more reserved you are on the street,
because you know, like, in two seconds,
three seconds, it can be over.
Exactly.
Exactly.
But my bad that we brought you to the sun right now.
Like, can we get Becky, can we get some?
Yeah, thank you, Becky.
This is for my boys.
Thank you.
He's gone four rounds sparring here with me verbally.
Yeah, yeah.
Verbal sparring.
I didn't know Palacio Rolofugui was a son of a bitch.
Go on, man.
Hold on.
It's so hot, I don't even know what I'm talking about.
The fans.
In prison, did you have somebody kind of showing you the ropes, a teacher, a mentor, somebody like that? Go on man, go on man. It's so hot I don't even know what I'm talking about. The fans.
In prison, did you have somebody kind of showing you the ropes?
A teacher, a mentor, somebody like that?
Six months in, there's a guy who came in.
His name is Jose Guilarte.
I still speak to him to this day.
I've been out of prison now almost 20 years and I still speak to him almost every day.
He's still in. He's been in now 41 years in prison.
Really?
So yeah, it puts a huge perspective on life, you know?
And me and him would have conversations about me becoming a professional fighter. You know,
when I got out, we had these dreams. We still talk about it to this day. He's my biggest
fan. As I came out, I was still a young man. I was trying to figure out how to, I had kids.
I was married at the time. I was trying to figure out how to feed my family. And all
I knew was the streets. So I ended up going back to what I knew.
I'm getting to this interesting part of my life
where I'm gonna be a dad, right?
My wife's pregnant, she's gonna be doing
in December of this coming year.
And it's like all the things that I thought
about parenthood, right?
Like seeing from my parents and the people around me
and stuff, it's totally different when you realize
now you're up to bat and you have to take care of that kid.
What was the toughest part about becoming a dad
and things that you've gone through
in your life with your kids?
Okay, so first off, congratulations
on you having a baby.
It's a great age to have a kid is early 30s, you know?
The toughest part that I've gone through with that
is my son last year, when he turned 10 years old,
they found a tumor in his femur bone. It was a cancerous tumor that was my son last year when he turned 10 years old they found a tumor in his femur bone it was a cancerous tumor that was March of last
year so we spent all of last year in Miami Children's Hospital Nicholas
Children's Hospital shout out to them shout out to all the nurses at the sixth
tower yeah badasses heroes we're not only heroes were capes man and those
those ladies and those men that were there were scrubs bro exactly exactly
again I believe in God I was asking God to give me my son's sickness you know and
and it didn't happen that way. My son took it at 10 years old went through you know in total like
28 weeks of chemo surgery to remove his femur bone and put a new one in. He's back he's uh you know
he's back walking he's back kicking ass. He's an incredible kid.
He has become my hero.
He's in my corner in every fight.
He's my coach.
Man, that to me was the toughest part of being a parent
was when it's easy to be a parent when your kids are good
and everything's healthy and everything's fine.
When your kid's sick, man, and his life is on the line, man.
He's really fighting for his life.
He's hooked up to machines for 24 hours a day, for weeks at a time. It really puts a perspective on sick, man, and his life is on the line, man. He's really fighting for his life. He's hooked up to machines for 24 hours a day,
for weeks at a time.
It really puts a perspective on life, man,
and it makes you be thankful, grateful, man,
and really appreciate everything you have
and the people around you that really care.
We have a lot more in common than you know,
so I, at five years old, was diagnosed
with stage four Hodgkin's lymphoma.
Wow.
Yeah, and I went through the same thing.
I was hooked up as a five-year-old kid for 28 rounds
of chemo, the same thing.
And when I see my parents, right, and now
I'm going to be a parent, so I think
at this unborn little baby inside my wife's stomach,
and I'm like, if I had to go through what my parents went
through with me, I don't know how I would do it's like the
strength that my parents showed kind of set me up for life because I was a
cancer survivor at five and then I got it again at 28 so I'm a two-time cancer
survivor so it's like when you go through those things at different ages
it builds a perspective of as a kid I didn't know what was happening, right?
We were just going to the hospital,
I had a tumor, I don't know if you can see it right here,
I have a scar somewhere around here,
I had a tumor like that on my lymph node.
And one day-
Did you have the port and everything as well?
So I'll show you the scar.
Oh yeah, my son has the same scar.
Right here.
So at five years old, you don't know what's going on,
you're a kid, you're like,
hey, why are we going to this hospital, smells weird,
I have to be hooked up to machines, I don't really know what's going on. You're a kid. You're like, hey, why are we going to this hospital smells weird. I have to hook them to machines like I don't really know what's what's happening.
And for me, my parents were such a such a blessing. I hope that I
can emulate a percentage of the strength that they had because
for you, like being a tough fighter being all these things,
feeling helpless, completely helpless when it comes to your
kid and something that you care so much about is just
inspirational. It's like, thank you care so much about is just inspirational.
It's like, thank you.
It's crazy.
Thank you.
Congratulations on being cancer twice.
Let me tell you, from a first-hand perspective, man, congratulations.
That's amazing.
You never know how strong you are until you are in those situations.
You can't be crying around your kid or whining or your kid can't see you weak because you're
trying to set the table for them.
It sets the table.
You're trying to get him strong mentally, physically.
So with cancer and things like that, it's really you're stepping into the unknown.
You know what I mean?
You could be good one day and the next day you're terrible.
And it's a crazy situation to be in.
We feel like we're all twistering chickens in here.
Yeah, this is actually good for me because I got to fight next week.
I was going to say, losing a little weight before the week.
Yeah, losing a little weight so it's a little sauna workout for me.
This guy's already fought three rounds.
Tell me something about your mom.
The importance of having a mom who is Latin, who knows what she knows and all that.
My mom's been the biggest inspiration for me.
My mom is, you know, my mom's a person of God.
She's always tried to put me in the church, you know,
she's still in church to this day.
She's an ordained minister.
She's always preaching over me.
First text I get in the morning is my mom's prayers.
Yeah.
So it's really been a blessing to have my mom in,
in my corner, you know, my whole life.
My mom, my best friend, she's everything.
She's everything. My mom is everything to me.
So it's amazing to have a mom like mine.
She's my best friend.
She's, you know, at the end of the day, nothing beats experience, you know?
And I didn't know that.
She's had a bunch of experiences with you.
She's had a bunch of experiences with me.
With time, you see that your mom went through these things
and I was telling you the things so that you stay in line.
So now I can tell my son,
you know, I know about gangs, I know about prison,
I know about doing crime.
I know about getting caught and getting away.
I know the repercussions that this has
on your life in the long run.
The Mount Rushmore Miami fighters.
Ready?
Kimbo, Dada, you, George.
Thank you so much for putting me on that Mount Rushmore.
And I'm not blowing smoke up your ass.
I'm being honest bro.
The most badass about the Mount Rushmore is that me and George both have the fastest knockouts.
Yeah.
He has the one in UFC.
I have the fastest knockout in combat sports history.
So it's awesome to represent Miami with that.
You know, Kimball was a character.
He was, you know, big crazy looking dude.
I was like, damn, this guy's fighting in the backyard.
Data brought the hype of the backyard to the world.
You know, businessman.
He's, I call him Don Data.
He's like, Don King, you know,
he's the biggest promoter for the fights.
Congrats to you, bro. Married again. WWE star, how does that feel?
I couldn't ask for a better partner in life, man.
It's just, it's great.
When you see her up there on the screen, how does that make you feel?
Oh man, it's great, man. She just won the belt in Australia,
just fought for the belt in Montreal for TNA. She comes home, we got belts at the house.
We got pictures of us now.
A lot of belts at the house.
Pictures of us with our ass kicked or kicking ass, you know, and it's great, man.
I couldn't ask for a better person in life, honestly.
Thank you for helping me lose weight today. It's great to have this interview here
in Palacio del Jugo. Come on, represent Miami, bro. That's what I want to do here.
Represent Miami. It's a staple in Miami. You know,
they've opened up so many locations now, so it's awesome to do this here.
Not in a gym where it's, you know, it's basic.
Now it's all you're having a real conversation with the people, baby.
Yeah, I appreciate you brother thank you bro
Thank you for watching Tony tonight
That is a deep Miami cut right there I've been proud to see how Tony has
hustled his way into creating some of his own things that you can share with
him on Saturday at his MMA hangout and while I want to celebrate and compliment you for sharing your vulnerability with us
in the touching parts of this story, I wasn't listening at all after I saw the word chicharron
on the screen.
And I just got distracted because fried pork.
I see that you guys, Mike wasn't working on Fridays before, now Mike all of a sudden is
coming in because he wants the fried pork.
And I saw you guys the other day were doing just bacon sandwiches
just straight bacon sandwiches I'm like I've never even heard of such a thing
where it's just bread and bacon it's just a bee you're in agreement with me
that the chicharron Fridays seem to be very popular around here where it's just
fried pork out there for breakfast and cheese there's fries there's cheese out
there too squeaky cheese chichar cheese out there too. The squeaky cheese.
Chicharron's keto friendly.
I'm here on Fridays because of Andrew Hawkins.
Yeah.
Yep.
And he's not here for the cheese.
I am not here for the cheese.
Thank you, Jessica.
Fried pork, I'm back.
Get down with that.
Chicharron is delightful.
What are you doing on Saturday, Tony?
It's tomorrow night.
Tell the people again so they can come join you
because you get into those Miami crevices.
Yeah, Dan, we are going to be live at Casa Tiki, the number
one bar in the world for Christmas.
Festive.
Christmas themed right now.
Mike will probably be out there.
Yeah, I'll be out there.
Most of the team will be out there.
We'll be starting off the show at 10 o'clock for UFC 310,
which is a stacked top to bottom as usual.
Come hang out with us.
The drinks are awesome.
Miracle on Caiocho at Casa Tiki UFC 310 MMA hangout presented by
queer I wanted to ask you guys and ask video to get for me the Netflix thing
that we were all laughing about the preview that came out of enigma the
Aaron Rodgers story but I also wanted to ask you about the story if you guys
could get me the crediting on this I don't know who shaleen woodley told this to because initially she said she
didn't want to talk at all about her relationship with erin rogers cuz it
always makes her cry and then the subsequent reporting i saw on that has
her calling that relationship traumatic and toxic which uh... wasn't the way i
was thinking of it when she initially said that the relationship makes her cry.
So I am curious what you guys think also of this preview
that everyone was making fun of because this-
People were making fun of this trailer.
I- Oh yeah.
Really? I wanted to see it.
I understand why people, now that I talk it out,
I understand why people are gonna make fun of it.
It's called Enigma.
Dude, I read an entire book trying to learn more
about Aaron Rodgers because I do think that
he's an interesting case study.
You can debate whether or not he's interesting.
I think he's had a fascinating career
with a lot of twists and turns.
And more recently, I have a bunch of questions.
He doesn't seem to want
to give me answers with his media availability all that much he just really likes to revel
in the fact that I don't know the truth so this is your truth I'm gonna I'm gonna watch
it it looks super interesting it looks like he's let them get into every aspect of his
life so I'm fascinated by this.
He's doing drugs and we are... Yes.
He's doing drugs.
He's on crack.
I imagine.
I imagine.
Who was on crack?
Who was on crack?
I imagine he agreed to this when he thought this season was going to go well.
He's going to be like, we're going to be in the playoffs.
People are going to want to watch a doc about me.
And now it's just, he's bad.
And it's just, this doesn't slap the same as they were like 10 and three.
I think there's something admirable,
I'm sorry to cut you off,
I think there's something admirable in him still allowing it.
You can seize on certain immaturities in his career
and his life very much right now
seems like a work in progress.
I think you can afford him the ability to work it out
provided he does so responsibly with some of his platforms and you can certainly him the ability to work it out, provided he does
so responsibly with some of his platforms and you can certainly have a go at him for
that stuff. But I'm in on this and this looks really well made and it looks like a view
of a star quarterback, one of the greatest to ever play, still in his career by the way,
that we've never had before.
This is like if the last dance was Michael Jordan with the Wizards This is what this feels like there's three and I that was a much better way to describe it then he's on drugs
Well, the other way that I was going to describe it is you might be interested in the movie
But this for all the weirdness around Aaron Rodgers
Ex-girlfriend saying traumatic and toxic we don't't have that. I haven't seen that one.
Like I've.
Actually when it comes to him,
especially if you read the book,
like you know like the Olivia Munn thing,
like I don't like to get into too much
into people's personal lives,
but it's a thing with him and people are fascinated.
He's dated a lot of starlets.
I don't think you have to feel bad for that
if he's making a Netflix documentary about his life.
I don't think you have to be like,
I don't want to get into his personal life if he's like, here's my personal life. I don't think you have to be like, I don't want to get into his personal life
if he's like, here's my personal life,
this is the stuff that I'm into right now.
Fair enough, yeah.
I don't know that there's gonna be a lot of this in there.
Like, it's gonna be an all access look
and I don't think there's gonna be a lot of whatever it is
that she's talking about here.
Yeah, I doubt that because he's clearly like,
very involved in the production of the Netflix show.
But to your point, if you take out all of his
like conspiracy theories and all the terrible things
that he said from a football redemption standpoint,
we already know what's happened this year.
We already know that the Jets thing
has been a complete failure.
So I'm curious, I probably will not watch this,
but if I do, that's where my curiosity is.
How honest will they be about his involvement,
his role in the disaster that has been
this year's
jet season?
I'm sure Robert Sala will also describe their relationship as traumatic and toxic.
I would say that the history of sports has not seen a lot of public changes quite that
looked like this one.
Like this kind of short-circuiting on somebody who goes from a State Farm insurance guy to
all the things Aaron Rodgers has been since becoming the commercial spokesman. short-circuiting on somebody who goes from a State Farm Insurance guy to all
the things Aaron Rodgers has been since becoming the commercial spokesman. I'm
not going to file it under Fund CTE or even like the stuff happening with
Antonio Brown, but there is some stuff here worth examining on the fact that we
have never seen a quarterback go into this particular descent spiral. Like it's
super weird. It's a super weird thing that we just happened
had happened to a famous person
where you think differently about him now
than you did even four years ago
in a way that doesn't have a lot of things
that I could compare it to in the history of the sport.
Yeah, I felt like I lost my soul, my self, my happiness,
my joy, I really understood depression and anxiety
and like complete soul detachment.
Shailene Woodley, Robert Sala, handshake me.
I would say Olivia Munn has said stuff
about previous relationships that you could deduce.
Now she's never actually put it on Erin
because she doesn't speak like that,
but if you parse through her interviews,
the stuff that she said about her time there
is a little bit more damning.
I am gonna watch this because the turn,
something happened four years ago,
and I'm sure throughout this,
it's my best opportunity to understand what happened
because I do kinda wanna understand,
there's a guy that is still probably like,
in terms of while he was going,
was my favorite football player of all time.
Do you think though, and I mean,
Ian O'Connor interviewed a whole lot of people.
Ian O'Connor's book, I'm guessing,
he's gonna be better than the documentary.
You read it? You read it?
You think so? No, no.
I read the entire book with my ears.
And while I enjoyed it, especially like
the old Pac-12 football stuff, that was incredible.
OJ Itagwe, what a name.
What a game that they had against USC.
And also, they got screwed in the BCS.
They lost one game to number one, well they dropped two,
but Mac Brown's like, we belong in the Rose Bowl, BS.
Anyways, you only have like, he only sits down with Ian
to confirm or deny some of these things and apply context
for about an hour. The
rest of it's Ian getting into his life and he afforded Ian the opportunity to
come and run some stuff by him. This is all Aaron. So we're not getting into his
relationships with...Ian O'Connor's not specifically asking Aaron about that.
Aaron will just say there are two sides to every story. Well this seems to be
his entire side and I am interested in that. The reason that I'm asking you the question that
I was is that I would assume a reporter who does not have to have the access to tell the
story is going to tell a more illuminating story as someone who wants to understand Aaron
Rogers than a documentary made by Aaron Rogers so that you understand him. But the footage
is so compelling. Like Aaron Rogersgers is at like a drugs retreat,
openly weeping.
Like I, again, went through that entire Ian O'Connor book.
There was nothing that compelling.
But that's what Ayahuasca is.
Every time I'm at a drug retreat, I openly weep.
It's literally on the menu.
Like I'll take the openly weep piece.
It is so interesting to watch this dude just do drugs
as last year in the NFL and everyone's like yeah
Whatever I gave you another hot take isn't it a white privilege before you do
Isn't it a white privilege that he can just openly be doing this while his play just like
I like the I like the big of us all trying to do things like Stephen a now to try to get some of that money
He's doing drugs. I like them. I don't what I don't like is
40 year old football players. That's my hot take that you shouldn't play in the NFL 40 plus
like I think there's like once you get to that age you start to see things from
people that the general public is not Brady won a Super Bowl over 40 I know he
was great he was great but also do you remember all the conversation around
Brady do you remember him being really good and us being super bored? Do you remember
him going through a divorce while he's playing in the NFL at 45 years old? You're not supposed
to be doing that. It's a tough place to go through middle age. And I feel like that's
what's going on with Ann Rogers.
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