The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Postgame Show: Hodgepodgin' It!

Episode Date: December 15, 2023

It's a Postgame Show hodgepodge of content! First, Pablo Torre provides us with a segment from today's Pablo Torre Finds Out where he, Katie Nolan, and Dan Soder chat about urology and gym memberships. So, ya know, standard #sports stuff. Then, The Hockey Show with Roy is here as Roy and David Dwork discuss the Florida Panthers before Dimitri Filipovic of The Hockey PDOcast joins the duo for a "10-minute misconduct" to explain why Aleksander Barkov is headed to a Selke Trophy and to touch on other topics around the NHL. Plus, it's Tony's MMA Hangout with his guest Danny Segura from MMA Junkie. They preview what's coming at you this weekend with UFC 296! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. Okay, gotta play a game of good news, bad news, do you want the good or bad news first? Okay, the bad news. The bad news is that this is just an excerpt, a small snippet of today's episode of Publicatory Finds Out with Katie Nolan and Dan Soder, to my friends who I love having on the show. Whom I love having on the show, I suppose. This is one segment out of three plus some other stuff that is all exclusive over on the Publicatory Finds Out. Oh, this is the good news. This is the very good news, actually. The whole thing is available on the public. Tauri finds out podcast feed and YouTube channel and it's exclusive over there.

Not going to be in this feed got to go over there. So, you know, subscribe and make sure you don't miss any of the fun stuff that we have made handcrafted bespoke for you. Yes, you specifically the person who wanted the bad news first, and then realized, oh my God, there is so much good news here. So my dad's a urologist. Oh, I know. He's retired, but he still gets shirts from the NYU urology department. I don't guys know this. Urologists love a custom t-shirt.

Well, I would too if that my job was so funny. Yeah, if you're working with ween tubes all day, I'm sure you kind of want. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the PT. The ween. I mean, so the reason I bring this up though is the back. Okay, and let's see the back. I don't know if actually I'm going to describe what the back is for our audio listeners. I'm just now turning around.

It says, let's go crazy. Let's go nuts. I'm going to quote it attributed to Prince., let's go crazy. Let's go nuts. And it's quoted attributed to Prince. And it's a banana, a purple banana. A purple banana bowling. Okay. And I think it's a condom.

And I think it's an inflated condom. That's what I was the... The realizing that this is like a closer, we can slide over this way. I'm gonna say maybe it represents the bladder. What's this? Isn't that the top nipple of a condom? Not really. Isn't that the reservoir of a condom? Not really.

Isn't that the reservoir of a condom? It looks like just like an empty blueberry. Did your dad explain to you what the back of the shirt was? My dad had no, had no sort of like textual interpretations of this. Yeah. But I just like that they attributed very clearly to prints. Right. Because you don't want to get that confused.

Let's go crazy. Let's go nuts. Let's get nuts. You want to get nuts? Let's get nuts. No, it's 2016. Do you just get this shirt? Yeah, he's in my dad's closet.

And he was like, you took the photo of it. I was like, I'm going to wear this in life now. Yeah, that's the merch you do want. Yeah, if you're a parents job, if you're dads arerologist, you have so many good, sure, that have penises on them without having a penis on them. Oh, in the middle, it's a bladder. So people were, it's a bladder, but it does look like a penis in balls. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But I think that's not- The kidneys into the bladder, down into the urethra. Yes, that's the family crust over my chest. It's the most cock-a-jac adjacent merch I've ever seen in my life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you know they can't just put a dick on it. Right, it feels like they have to be like, we can kind of put a dick on there.

Oh, bananas, I bet there's a lot of bananas. But ladies be too. Ladies do piss. Ladies just piss too. Go on, brush your nose on it. You know? But these are your piss too. Sometimes for money on businessmen. Well, and now that's and what we're saying about only fan that's why I'm saying check us out. I'm launching my card.

Katie's busy page. When we vans.com slash Katie's busy. It's a soft wet lunch. We're done doing stoder that we pull out the tar, and we make the money that bought those. I can't tell you what it is. You're working. Here's the article I'm bringing. Pablo, tell them about it. Yeah, hit him, Pablo. So the headline is,

I wanna get the citation right, because it is app.com. And what's that? Which is now with APP. You know me. We ask Barry Parkpress. Of of course we all know that of course it's just Bruce spring steam at a typewriter going I don't know what's going on and I guess gym memberships today a factory closed down in sports In sports. In sports, it's a free news lab. It seems like a cool kid, man.

The person thinks they, NJ Bill would allow consumers to cancel Jim membership online and easily. Impossible. That's a trap. Why? To quote Admiral Akbar. That's a trap. Why?

Jim memberships are notorious. But that's what I'm saying. I think this is the government's getting involved. The government is now threatened. They're like, excuse me, you can't keep backing these people into a corner which to be clear. We were told explicitly to do. So Katie is using the word we. And we should explain this.

We should in a previous life, before her superpowers, before the spider bit her, before the hilarious, the funny spider bit her, she was selling memberships at equinox on the upper east side. That's right. You got to explain Katie, though, where equinox ranks in the hierarchy of Jim, especially in New York City's upper. Yes, and this was pre, like LA fitness was just coming on to the scene when I was at equinox was the planet fitness around AKA the bargain bin

The Ross of 24 hour fitness, which was like a block half a block away open 24 hours done. I don't know. I don't I don't keep up on the industry side. I remember being around It's closed and 20 rar fitness was a literal thing. It was twenty-four hours a day Yes, and that was the hardest thing to sell against is people would be like well I can get this membership for a lot cheaper across the street and I can go 24 hours a day I can go at 3.30 a.m. And so we were prepared to that's what I was supposed to say I'm like look that sounds good on paper But you're basically gonna go to the gym at the same time every day and the odds of it being 3 a.m.

Are pretty low. It's actually bad for you to go to the gym at 3 a.m. unless you're working that kind of schedule. Do you work that kind of a job where you work at night and you sleep during the day? You write your shoes right back into it. And then I say, okay, well, then let's just be honest. I think you'd rather have a gym that you can know is going to be not crowded. It's going to be clean. You're going to have nice equipment. Well, what are some of the amenities you have? Well, we've got these you chilled eucalyptus towels available on every floor. Was that the first thing you led with?

Because it was the thing that I cared the most about. I was like, look, these towels are already cold and they smell like a tree. They put those right on your neck. You can take as many of them as you want. You're still. I would use them. Look, the most I ever went to a gym was when I went there. I didn't.

Did you ever sneeze in your neck? Yeah. No, they're wet. Well, that's the perfect crime. Yeah. No. They're wet. Well, that's the perfect crime. Yeah. It's like murder and somebody was a bicycle. It's a mouth of a tnot.

No evidence. Is that snot or just eucalyptus? Is this it? No, I think it's sting to blow your nose with them. They're really strong. Do you be one of those people? I regret this. I regret this.

Oh my god, it's in my f*** eyes. Sir, you didn't happen to sneeze into the eucalyptus towel, did you? But you had a list of things that you were, I guess, taught. Yeah, we had a whole training program that I did really well at. Turns out I was a good salesman.

I just didn't like the way it made me feel on the inside because I was trapping people into these memberships because it was impossible to cancel them. We would have initiation fees. I don't know if this is how gym memberships still work. This was many moons ago, fresh out of college. This was putting my degree to good work. There was an initiation fee of a couple hundred bucks and then every month they would pay like $175 to go to the gym. 175 bucks a month. If you wanted to go to all of them, that was the all access. Again, at the time, who knows what it is now? One gym was 135. One gym.

So one gym is 135. 175. Plus like a $300 initiation fee. Unless you sign up in December, January was the big push. And I think you could get no initiation fee. Now, let's say I'm in. Let's say I come in the door. I wish to be initiated.

Jump us in to Equinox. How do you get out of an equinox? Remember? You have to, you have to wait a year. You have to be there for at least a year. And then you have to go in and cancel. I mean, they really got to show up. If they show up, like a saw movie where they're like somewhere, there's a key that gets you out of the block. You have to cut off your leg. Well, at one point, it was during the recession, hence why I didn't have a job. And people were getting laid off. And people were like, if I, I can't join this because I might be about to lose my job. They didn't want to sign up for the deal.

And then you have so much more time for your fitness. So then the, I think the company started to be like if you get If you I mean I don't want to say a pink slip But basically like if that you can bring that in that's so funny you out of your if you can If you find you off will let you out of your game walk to your equinox Yeah, we go I can no longer work out here and like why the Let me go because people weren't signing up because they were like there's no way I'm gonna be stuck in this for a year and if I get laid off, there's no way I'll be able to afford it.

They were like, well, don't, we'll still sign. You should still sign. Let's turn that pink slip into a punch card. Did you only get paid if they got signed? I got, that was my commission. I think I got like $12,000 a year. So nothing.

Yeah, and then you would get paid. Okay, so this is important. So Katie Nolan as recruiter of vulnerable people Yeah, by the way the story is coming out unquincidentally. It's December Yeah, okay, if you're gonna join a gym do it now you're right now the best deals because they're hot that was one hour Again, this could all be different now's many moons ago, but our highest quote Quota was in December so you were like doing anything you could to sign people because they expected you to sign a ton of people.

And if you hit your quota, you got your bonus. And if you went above your quota, everything above that, you got like extra money. Damn. So it was like, and if you didn't hit your quota, you were in trouble. Do you remember at all what the quota was? No. Like how many memberships?

No, I don't even remember your phone number. I had numbers in my brain just disappeared. That is true. So, number six. Is it over the six? No. No. No, three or three, because the phone number. I numbers in my brain just dissonally. So numbers are over the six. No, no, three or three. Cause there you go. Three or three. Got the Colorado area. That's all that matters. But wait, so let's take it from I've walked into this equinox, which I was 54th and second. Have you called previously, which is right? Where I worked at those Camino some 50th and third, which is I mean, there's so many times in our lives where we, a virtuous cycle, I'm telling you, I know this sounds funny, but there's so many times in our lives where we just missed each other.

And I feel like it's, that's proof to me that there's somebody who ate it, those Caminos, and then had to work out at Equinox. Yeah, I probably sold them on that shrimp case, a D, a folded, and then I probably had my friend go to help clean it up in the bathroom after they left the gym. Okay, wait. So had you previously called or spoken to anybody at an equinox when you walked in for your membership today? No, I, I, you're a fresh walking.

Yep. I am, I'm somebody who has wanted to be better about my health. We'll get into all that. Okay. I just need to know sales wise. Yeah. If you've spoke because so many times we had this guy, Andre, who was one of the salesmen at our equinox, who had, he was like an institution at equinox.

He'd been there since I feel like it opened. But he wasn't like, beloved by the company. And I wondered why, because he sold so many memberships. It's because he didn't do it the equinox way. He just cast a very wide net with leading generation. And then whenever anybody would come in, it would be my, Katie, you're up for a walk-in. Here's a walk-in, and I'd get all excited,

and then they'd look in the, in the, luckily if they caught it early, it would go straight to Andre. But sometimes I would get through the whole tour, the whole sales pitch, and then I would put their name into the system and be like, so you spoke with Andre previously, and they were like, yeah, oh, that's right, I did.

And I'm like, let's get you signed up, and then Andre would stay outside my office with a big smile on his, that's right. I did. And I'm like, let's get you signed up. And then Andre would stay outside my office with a big smile on his, because that was his sale now. But anyway, if you'd never spoken to anybody and you walked in, I gotta say, I spoke to Andre. Let me just walk,

but see if you say it early, I go, let me just bring you over to Andre. And then he would hop the top. I'm so sorry. He hate it. I'm sorry. It was Andre the giant. Thank you.

Time to pay. I was sorry. It was Andre the giant. Thank you. I'm crazy. You're gonna love the you got up this towel. But Andre sucked it like the tour and stuff. He didn't like doing any of the schmoozing, which was the only part I was good at. Andre was a strategist though. Yeah, Andre was a, he wanted you to have to do all the way. He wanted to pee on every possible tree. That's right. He got him too. He was a,

you're an allegis of a sale. And they didn't like him. The company did like, well, they did. They liked the numbers, but he wasn't held up as like, this is our greatest salesman because he wasn't a good salesman. So that's the skill though. The salesmanship skill is the thing that fascinates me most about Katie Dolan, Ikunak's salesperson. Because if I'm coming in cold off the street, it's December, I'm self-conscious, but I'm obviously very lazy.

How are you possibly convincing me to drop all of the money you've described? Okay, I mean, you wanna know. Yeah. I would take them on a walk of the, it was three floors. So I would show them all the different, I would ask them about their fitness goals, I would ask them about their experience

with going to the gym and if they never went before. Would you ever prod or poke them? No. You know, escalate. I'm signing you up. No. I mean, like touch their problem areas. Yeah, I go like, yeah.

Yeah, we can fix that. No. Okay. I was, I was more like, I found a thing to relate to. There was one woman that, that was like very rich. And I still to this day, I look back on this interaction. I'm like, what was that lady? She was very rich and she was wanted a gym membership and then she liked me by the end of it. And she, she was like, I just am afraid I won't ever go,

and I'm afraid I'll sign up for this membership, and I won't ever go. And my main thing I always went to was if you're spending $135 on it, you'll go. If you spend 20 bucks on it, you won't go. But $135, that's an investment in yourself. That's an investment in your health. You're holding yourself in half a week, you will go.

I'm reaching from a wallet. And this lady said she still wouldn't go. And I said, here's, how about this. If we go a week and I don't see you, I'll call you. I'll call you. I'll go to the gym with you. I'll come work out next to you on my lunch break. We'll go on the days that I can go.

I'll make sure you're here. If we don't see you, I'll call you. I will find you. And she was like, okay. And then this lady became like my friend. She gave me her credit card. She treated me like her assistant. One day she took me to that,

where's a Bruta? Remember that show in Union Square? I think it was called, where's a Bruta? I could be making this up. Where's a Bruta is a band. It's a post-modern theater show that premiered in Buenos Aires in 2005. One night, she just took me.

We went on this trip. We went to where's a Bruta. We went to a apartment. I remember it was raining and my socks got wet I still have these socks that this lady gave me that night. Could not tell you her name. Could not tell you how I Ended why I said yes to any of this, but I went so it's like a live performance Yeah, lady New York small Cirque de Soleil I think she her how old was she? Oh, I'm bad at this, but I was maybe 50. Maybe. Do you think there's an off chance that on January 9th, she'll be watching celebrity Jeopardy and she'll be like, that's my Katie.

That's what's all Katie. That's right. That's Equinox Katie. I took her to a performance. She wrote a big, long letter on the back of her receipt about how I should be promoted within Equinox. She was a very sweet woman, but that's why I couldn't handle it emotionally. I thought she'd enough people up for the gym

and I'm like, I got seven people who didn't show up this week, I have to call them. I have to let them know I care. You don't have the thing in you that can shut off that work. That's like, oh, I sold you that, but I'm not gonna do, I can't make a campaign promise and then not follow through. Unlike a real-world cast member,

you were there to make friends. Yes, yeah. I was there for the wrong reasons, which was to be friendly with everybody. So, it just sounds like you had a methodology. We were given, I forget what they were called, but we practiced, like, when somebody's, you have to get, you have to get, you have to get, you have to get, you have to get, you have to get, you have to get, you have to get, you have to get, you have to get, you have to get, you have to get, you have to get, you have to get, you have to get,

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It's like Will Ferrell and the spy who shagged me where he goes damn seven times You know what he's like three times Let me out no let me out No, I think the seven like All right It got to the point where for people to go, we're going to go, we're going to go, we're going to go, we're going to go, we're going to go, we're going to go, we're going to go, we're going to go, we're going to go, we're going to go, we're going to go, we're going to go, we're going to go, we're going to go, we're going to go, we're going to go, we're going to go, we're going to go, we're going to go, we're going to go, we're going to go, we're going to go, we're going to go, we're going to go,

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That is nuts. It's like warmer. Close, sir. Like, well, you could call state Senator Gordon Johnson. Yeah. So they're going to make a law pass that only in New Jersey, right? I assume. I believe it will begin in New Jersey.

Which is a big gem. It's a big gem state. Is that right? Jim Tam Long. Yeah. which is a big gym. It's a big gym state. Is that right? Gym tam logic. Of course, GTL. Yeah, they, yeah, if you're, Jersey, Jersey gyms are on a different level. Yeah, Jersey mics, I believe they're called.

But they just, the amount of, I, it's, it's really was such a problem that a politician in New Jersey as well. I listen, I'm trapped in three different ones, bro. All right, and I need a different one for my powerlifting, for my to get toned, to get strength. So they finally got it. They should make it.

It should be like, should be able to call. Well, why is canceling a gym membership should not need to be like a Jason Statham move. Well, I'm gonna tell you this right now, he's like, you've only got five knows. Three more. Maybe I'll let you out of the office. Sorry. You've got to blast your chords on Tuesday. Do you want to try that you can live to sleep? You're unbelievable. Okay, so hey, hey, hey, yeah, right? I'm gonna level with you. I don't know if you like me and maybe you don't. That's okay. Just know that over on the PTFO feeds podcast in YouTube and otherwise, there is a lot of people that you probably do like and they're

just hanging out and I'm there too, but you know, you can you probably do like, and they're just hanging out, and I'm there too, but you can sort of ignore me, but they're over there. And I think you'd enjoy knowing when they're doing fun stuff that I asked them to do for you. So, and me, but you know, again, ignore me. Thank you. It's free. This is getting sad.

Okay, talk to you later. BAM! Hello and welcome to the hockey show. My name is Roy Balmied. That's David Druck from the hockey news. The Florida Panthers are currently on a long road trip right now. And the first game was against the Columbus Blue Jackets and they ended up going to Seattle where they lost pretty badly.

And now they're in Vancouver and they're going to finish out with a Calgary and Edmonton. Let's start with the Columbus Blue Jackets game. And nothing happened. Not a single thing. It was a boring game. Actually, it was a boring game up until it was boring for 40 minutes. Yeah. Up until Nick Cousins got a boarding penalty.

And it was initially called a major on the ice against Eric Branson, but they reviewed it and they made it a minor. What made this less of a major and more of a minor penalty? I think it was just the fact that it didn't come directly from behind. Good Branson, it was kind of off to the side. And, you know, honestly, like, it didn't see, it's, like you and I were just discussing beforehand. I think what happened to Good Branson,

like the way that his face went into kind of the dasher, glass area, it was very violent, and I'm sure Jarn for him, the way that his neck went into it. I just don't think the way that cousins approached him from the side and kind of pushed him in as they were kind of going in an angle, would be my guess as to why that wasn't, why it was rescinded to the two-minute minor.

Either way, Eric had branched and clearly did not agree with the officiating decision and you know, as we're going to discuss, it kind of took matters into his own hands a few minutes later. And that was damage to his face, face off of his face smashing into the glass. Yeah. And there's no in between here. There's no double minor. It's either a major or a minor. Right.

There's no four minutes for boarding. Okay. And he popped right back up as soon as he realized he okay. And it's just my face, not my neck or anything. I'm going to be okay. Let me try to beat the shit out in the cousins. Yeah. Yeah.

It was like an undertaker moment where he went from my down and you're like wondering, like the trainers are running out there, you know, everybody's kind of worried that he's not gonna be okay. And all of a sudden, it's like, he realized, hey, I'm okay, that was scary as hell, but I'm fine. And then it was game on.

And clearly, and look, I don't know what he went through in that moment. It was, you know, an emotional experience for Eric at Branson, but man, did he, he was seen red for a while. I mean, you saw them screaming at each other in the penalty box. Yeah. Before any of the, the later stuff happened. Yeah. And here's the thing. After they left the penalty box after he went to the bench, the very next shift, Erica Branson jumped them. There was no asking for a fight, which is what you're supposed to do in this situation. He jumped them. There was no asking for a fight, which is what you're supposed to do in this situation.

He jumped them. He pretty much suck upon us. He grounded and pounding him. And there was no fighting back from the cousins in this situation. It was just why the cousins didn't get paralyzed. Yeah. You would think like you want retribution or do you want, you know, do you want to go toe to toe with the guy?

Like a lot of people in that situation, you would think, you know, I want to look you in the face fight you like a man. Let's go. And you know, you know, I wanna look you in the face, fight you like a man, let's go. And you know, to cousins credit after they hit against at Brent's and he didn't stay away or anything, he stood right there and I don't know what he, you know, kind of stood over. So it was looking, I guess.

Yeah, well, as, you know, he probably was expecting it, I would think. But the second time around, like cousin, at Brent's and literally wrapped his arms around cousins, put his hand in cousin's face and drove him to the ice, got on top of his back and then just started wailing away. Like there was no, he wasn't interested in the fair fight or he wasn't interested in any fight back.

He was one in his retribution and he got it and then he got suspended for it. And in the end, 29 penalty minutes, he got that game suspension. And what's actually not being talked about here is what Ricky got the old people with a game. It's got it. Nobody mentioned that at all. Yeah. He was screaming at the officials from the bench after the initial hit. And then once the second thing happened, I guess the refs had had enough from from this Columbus assistant coach. I mean, everybody knows Mark Recky from his playing days. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, like it was, like you said, it went from a game that was really kind

of ho-home for 40 minutes and it totally took it on like a red bull high straight through the end. And the Panthers ended up winning the game in Columbus 5-2 and then they went to Seattle and got their asses kicked. What exactly? I mean, I want 100%. I'm telling you the truth here. We at the Holiday Party here at Metalog Media and I went to sleep at 830,

830. Like it was bad. In fact, I woke up at 330. That's how much sleep, that's how much rest I got from that one. So I wasn't able to watch the Seattle Game, which is that 10. So I don't know if you got the seat. Your body didn't have a favorite. Not. Oh, it absolutely did. Honestly, the store. That's my man. The store didn't really do the game justice as the Panthers didn't play that badly. Like for a game, like that they were almost out shooting them two to one through the first 40-ish minutes of the game. Seattle guy, you know, they got, I think it was a breakaway goal,

one point on Bob. They got a one time, it was a one-timer in the slot on a power play I believe. It was, it wasn't a game where Florida was necessarily getting outplayed. They were getting outchanced, maybe outbounced a little bit. And Joey Decorde, the goal center for Seattle played out of his mind his first

then it shall shut out, so good for him. But it wasn't the kind of game where you're like, what was it, the Islander game, if you read to know on home ice where the Panthers, like, they kind of got smacked around a little bit by a lesser team. It wasn't a situation like that. It was one of those, one of those games

that the Panthers would win five, six, seven years ago, where you play a team that's a lot better than you. And somehow you come out with a happy win on Holmites. It was felt more like that. Well, it seems like everything went downhill in the third period though. Yeah. Well, it was what they scored a quick. I think they had two girl, two early goals in the first five minutes on like their first three shots. And then, you know, you're down three nothing. Yeah. The Kraken before the game, they were on a eight game losing streak.

Yeah, that hurts. So if you bet against the Kraken, sorry. You probably got good odds if you were betting on the Kraken that night. Just like, I'm curious now, just thinking in terms of the Panthers are probably going to be a little pissed. The Pride's probably going to be a little bruised after losing that game. So it seemed like it lost eight in a row. So you wonder, Vancouver at home, Ventura's a good team.

The Panthers might be getting some favorable odds going into the game. Yeah, I don't want to advocate too much for the betting, but you know, well, we recorded this show on Thursday. That's what I was thinking tonight, which is why I just want to make sure I build you out on that one because you know, we try to be timeless here, but no way again around that. But tonight, which is Thursday, yesterday, last night, because you listened to this on Friday or whenever you listen to this, whatever, it's a Roberto Laurent go night in a Vancouver. That happened. Yeah, that happened already. Even though

it hasn't happened yet, but it's a special night in Vancouver Vancouver. That happened. Yeah, that happened already. Even though it hasn't happened yet. But it's a special night in Vancouver as about a long ago comes back. So where are you gonna go into the Stanley Cup final and lost to some games, Sudie, Boston, Bruins? How special is this not gonna be? Oh, I think it's gonna be pretty cool for him. It was kind of a weird situation in the way

the relationship with Vancouver and Lwando ended with getting traded back to the Panthers, which was great for everybody in South Florida. We were all really happy about it. But yeah, I mean, Lwando ended with getting traded back to the Panthers, which was great for everybody in South Florida. We were all really happy about it. But yeah, I mean, Lwando took that franchise that they had, they had some good years with Pavel Brey in the 90s and everything, and Marcus Naslin brought some fun,

and no, it was... Yeah, Marcus Naslin, yeah. But the Lwando years were something special with the Siddin twins, and they got all the way to the final that one year, and they Tim Thomas, and the Bruins, and the whole thing with Lwando and Thomas that one year and they, you know, Tim Thomas and the Bruins and the whole thing with Luando and Thomas was a lot of fun. And remember, Tim Thomas was actually the Panthers goalkeeper.

You might have got traded back to the Panthers in that old situation. It's a whole nother thing. But I think it'll be fun for Luando tonight. I would imagine it's going to be pretty special for him. I personally wonder why they are not retiring his number because I think it's probably safe to say he's the best goalie in tonight's history. So you wonder why that, you know, just the ring of honor, but you know, maybe that's just me.

That's interesting because we talked about this before we started recording that they haven't retired. Clint McLean's number either. So no, goaltenders had his number retired. Perhaps it's some kind of a goalie controversy or a conspiracy against the goal tenders in Vancouver. I mean, maybe that's why Dan Kuchie was so angry when he was up there. I don't, I don't know. Well, Vancouver is a very good team.

They are coming in with a three game winning streak, the second indie Pacific division with one of the best American goalies out there. That's your demo. That is correct. Real quick, want to talk about the all-star skills competition. There's a bit of a change. Man, I mean, the events, thankfully, are not... You see, here's the thing.

We grew up, I think, loving the skills competition was a lot of fun. It was Al McKinnis in the hardest shot in the right board, and the accuracy. And, you know, guys like Burre winning the fastest skater. But now, we both sat through the last years, and we were bored out of our minds. Yeah. So, hopefully, what they're doing this year, which is making it incentivizing it for the players and making it so that every event is like for points and they're getting through it that way.

So maybe it'll be a little bit more fun because really you got to ingest some life in this thing because last year it was rough. And there's money on the line. Yeah, the winner gets a million bucks. So hopefully, you know, they're going to get the right guys involved that are going to be playing and really get into it. There are some very interesting personalities that are going to be all stars. So we'll see.

All right. We got the Tim and Ms. Gondak coming up next. We have the Metri Phillipo, of the PDO cast from SportsNet. The Tim and Ms. Gondak and Indy Pellety Box. We have the Metri Phillipo of the PDO cast from SportsNet. The Metri you did a deep dive in Alexander Barkhoff season and why he is going to end up winning the circuit for a bunch of you to talk about this. Yeah, oh, it's a no brainer. Listen, this is a subject near and dear to my heart. So I'm happy to come join you guys and chat about this. Yeah, he's been phenomenal. I think when Patrice

Bergeron retired this past summer, there was a bit of a, I mean, obviously, I left an opening on the Bruins in terms of their depth chart, but I think in the league wide context, it also left an opening in terms of who would take that mantle as the league's gold standard for two-way center. And Barkov would have been a good choice heading into the season considering he was the last active player to actually win the Selkie, but I think he's taken his game to an even greater level this year and reached all new heights. And so I'm happy to join you guys today and kind of just talk about him for as long as you guys will have him.

So one of the things that Barkov, you talked about the way that he's taken his game to another level. How much do you think plays into that, his current head coach and Paul Maurice and arriving in South Florida a couple of years ago and kind of transitioning the team to a much more defensive approach to the way that they play the game? Yeah, I'm sure there's part of that as well, right? I think they've become a much more aggressive team over the past year or so under palm trees. I think the hallmark for them has been this aggressive forecheck, right?

We saw it in the postseason, how they just pressured opposing defensemen into making mistakes and then generated a ton of their offense off of it. And they've got a really good, I don't know how much of it is chickener. They have how much to bit as barcov and how much of it is the system and all other coming together. But they essentially just send their wingers up the walls, try to hit the other team as much as they can, force the puck into the middle of the ice. And then you've got barcov playing this sort of role as like the league's best safety in the middle of the ice, just waiting, ballhawking, trying to get everything that comes his way. And so it's really working perfectly where Paul Marais' system is playing the other

team right into barcoves hands. And then he's obviously uniquely qualified and equipped to make the most of that analytically. I am not an expert. Of course, he don't know who he is. Finn Wick. It sounds too much like Finn Wick parked at me. So analytically, can you tell me just what puts Alexander Bokhov over the rest? Yeah, certainly. I think even beyond those things, I mean, let's keep it simple. Let's go with goals, right? I think we all over. I mean, on analytics, we understand the scoreboard. You got an outscore with the other team

and that's generally a good thing. And with him on the ice this year, they are outscoring teams 23 to 5 at five on five, which is obviously a remarkable rate. It's the league best for anyone that's played consistent minutes this season. And you take him off the ice and the rest of those minutes, they're getting outscored as a team 38 to 29. So beyond all the stuff like shot attempts, chances, inner slot shots, we can get a dandy of those and dive deep into it. But just like on the surface, purely looking at goals, his impact on winning in that regard is unparalleled around the league, right? I think that's where it starts from you where when he's on the ice, they are the best team

in the league. When he's not off on the ice, they're kind of just struggling to get by. And so that really shows like how deeply rooted his impact is on this team. Are you able to also the way that you view Barkhoff analytically looking at his particular five on five on numbers, the way that he also impacts who he's playing with because you like Sam Reinhardt who he's been on the ice with almost the entire season to this point. And he's having a ridiculous year too, but not just offensively the way the Reinhardt's been impacting the game on both ends of the ice has also been maybe something that's not talked about a lot. No, certainly. And that's kind of the kind of thing for Bark

a right. And it's a kind of testament to being a great. No, certainly. And that's kind of the kind of thing for barco. Right. And it's a kind of testament to being a great player that he is, is that he's going to make everyone around him better. And you can essentially put everyone you want with him. We've seen Evan Rodriguez, of course, kind of find a home there. I know they split them up and put Carter Rahig on that line recently. But regardless of who you play with barco, they're going to get the most out of them. And it's really good timing for Ryan Hart in a contract.

You're right where he's on pace now for 50 goals. Everything's coming together for him. And I'm happy for him because he's been a really good underrated player for years now. And so I wouldn't be wary at all about paying him. I know it's kind of risky once you get into the age territory he's in. But I think he's one of those players. It's going to age really gracefully into his 30s because of how smart he is. And so it's cool to see it kind of come together for him as well this season. Let's talk about the San Jose sharks. They started the season bad, like historically bad. But then they put it on. That's an understanding. Roy. I mean, yeah, I'm trying to like trying to even things out for him because it was it was got off. But now I send a six to and two. Now we've seen one team who's dead last.

And now we made the playoffs. They won a Stanley Cup. And now it's the same Louis Blues. Could the San Jose sharks do the same thing? I don't see that in their cards for them. I mean, just I mean, just making a playoffs in this case. I'm not even going to give them a couple of seven points back right now with a lot of the season to go. Yeah. Listen, I don't think I think it's a great story. I've really enjoyed it. I think their entertainment value, like they have not played a normal game yet this season, right? At the start of the year, we're all watching because it had that car crash element where they're getting being 10 to 1, 10 to and back to back game. So you're kind of watching a sea. How bad it's going to get. Then recently they go out

east. They have these comfort behind victory. He's where they're down three four goals, lay them the third, store back, win and overtime. So they're playing really well right now. I think just the fact that like they look like they were going to be the worst team we've ever seen in NHL history. And that's clearly not going to be the case. So I think that's a big win for them. I wouldn't go so far as to say this is going to be a, you know, a Cinderella story in terms of like the playoff runner or anything like that. But I just think that like the fact that they're not a laughing stock and embarrassment anymore is something that doesn't look like it was going to be the case as recently as a couple

weeks ago. So it's been quite a turnaround for them. So one other thing that I want to ask you about something that you've covered recently is Jack Eichel and how well he is kind of, I guess, falling into place in Vegas. Like things we watched, you know, almost through tissues last year, the way that he and him and Vegas came together in the playoffs and the way that they look so dominant during the final. But what do you think has been, I guess, the magic potion that's made Eichel such a, I mean, to this point, it really

looks like such a perfect fit in Vegas. Yeah, I mean, he's in his prime, right? I think he's 26, 27 years old. He's healthy, finally, coming off those surgeries. He had to his neck and Bruce Cassidy's done a really good job as his coach in terms of empowering him in terms of getting him to play off the puck and put in the effort defensively. And so I think now playing with a guy like Mark Stone is well where he's almost the perfect player. Similar to how we talked about Barkov, where he's going to get the most out of you.

He's going to show you how to play the right way. And so it's really come together for him, right? They attack off the rush as we saw a last post season. He's one of the best players at that. He's working his butt off defensively and winning all these puck battles. And so yeah, he's carried over exactly what he did last post season, proven that it wasn't just kind of this one short term

thing. He's the real deal. This biggest team is the real deal. And it's interesting because that was obviously the finals match up last year. And if anything, I would say that both the Panthers and the Golden Knights are playing better right now than they did at any point really last season

before the playoffs as well, right? So for whatever talk of like how much of that was an aberration or how much of it was, oh, these are actually the two best teams. Like they're following that up this year and actually building off of it. So I'm really curious to see how things go for them the rest of the season. The St. Louis Blues fired Craig Barubi and they are not having a good season either. The 13, 14 and one coming in the Thursday.

Why don't you go for what's going on in St. Louis right now? Yeah, it's a bit of a confusing one because I don't think they had really an expectations heading into the year, right? They're kind of stuck in the middle where they still have a lot of bad contracts that have no move clauses. We know this past summer, they tried to move one of them in Tory Krueger and that didn't work out because he flexed his leverage out with his no move and essentially wanted to stay in St. Louis.

And so there's stuck with a lot of bad money on the books. They're not really competing right now, but they're also not rebuilding because they have all these players in their late 20s, early 30s, making a bunch of money. And so it's one of the worst spots in the sport to be stuck in. Thankfully, they have that Stanley Cup. They won a couple of years to to latch onto in terms of the memories of that.

And then I'm sure that goes a long way with the fans. But yeah, it's tricky where I don't really think regardless of what they do with the coach, it's going to make that much of a difference. So I guess maybe they just wanted to have a fresh voice in there. It's really tough to stay with any team as an NHL coach these days for as long as Brubay did and being there five years already. So I think they just kind of wanted a fresh start and hopefully maybe

get a bit of that bounce back the way teams like the Oilers and Wild did when they change coaches this season. But I'm not really expecting that from them. They kind of seem like they're really stuck in that mushy middle for the foreseeable future. Yeah, I'm with you. I was a little confused as well just because it's like, well, what exactly were their expectations? So it's going to be something that I'm going to be keeping an eye on. But one thing that I've been keeping an eye on all season, as I'm sure we all have, has been Conor Redard. Just he's really came in. You know, it's the last guy that got that much fanfare. I guess was Conor McDavid. He's been as advertised, right? To me, tree, like he's been super fun to watch. He's been throwing some eye popping goals. I just think,

like, we're blessed to have another one of these guys come into the lead right now. You know what David, I would say he's even been even better than advertised because I think heading into the year, obviously, you know, seeing the point told us he put up in major during your seeing what he was doing with the high-light real goals he was scoring. I think he was rightly pegged as a generational talent, but I expected him to struggle at 515 coming into the lead. You got to sort of learn how to play, especially at a set position defensively. There's not a lot of talent around him. I thought he'd struggle at even strength. And he do a lot of his production on the power play. It's actually been the opposite where

their power play hasn't been very good. He hasn't been producing much there just because they don't have a lot of high and talent beyond him. But at 515, he's been holding his own, especially when you consider the context of the situation he But at 515, he's been holding his own, especially when you consider the context of the situation he's in. And then he's scoring goals like he did the other night at Edmonton where he shows you that specific talent he has where he's coming off the rush. He looks like he can't even generate enough leverage with where the puck is and then all of a sudden it's in the back of the net and the goalie couldn't even react in time. And so yeah, if you have another chance to watch him yet for whatever reason, and I don't believe

we like the black hawks aren't very good. There's not many reasons to tune into the games beyond Bidard, but he's almost worth the price of admission of his own. And I think the games he actually played on the road in Florida and Tampa back to back this year were probably two of his most electric ones this season. So if anyone's listening there and they were there,

they got to see those. That was a nice little taste of what he's capable of. And I think as the year goes along, he's he's going to get even better. Let's talk about that matchup between the black hawks and the y'all is those two McDavid and Baudard actually got together and played hockey. Baudard's going through long goal and at the black hawks at and kind of McDavid had to assist. What did you think of the matchup? Yeah. I mean, it was kind of everything you expected, right? The oilers carried over their success.

They built on their winning streak. They won up winning the game, but Dard flashed that, that beautiful goal that I, that is grabbed that are earlier. You know, for all the talk early in the season, but McDavid's health and how he was sort of underperforming and the oilers, of course, were struggling and they fired their coach. They bounce back here. McDavid's ripping off the pouring totals. We've come to expect from him and what he did last year.

And so he's right back all of a sudden in the lead for the race for the scoring lead. The oilers are back in track for a postseason spot. And so that's been really fun to watch because I think the sport is better for it when McDavid's at the top and performing the way he is. And so I don't know, what do you guys think about in terms of like the way that matchup was promoted and sort of how if the league does a good enough job, I guess, of sort of capturing the fans' imagination,

right? Because it's like, all right, Conor, Bruce Conor, cool. We can go a little bit beyond that. But it feels like for whatever reason, it probably wasn't hyped up nearly as much as it probably should have been. Oh, I, that sounds like sarcasm to, it probably wasn't hyped up nearly as much as it probably should have been. Oh, I, that sounds like sarcasm to me. I mean, that thing was pretty much hyped. It's what the league actually wants. Yeah. I think we have different perspectives, though, coming from where Dimitri is up north of

the border and coming where we are down here next to Cuba. I think like, you know, people are going to have different perspectives when they look at how that game is being sold to them. I think down here was sold pretty well just because we don't get that very deep saturation of hockey, whereas up there, I'm guessing they probably could have played it up a bit more just because people are a bit more knowledgeable in what they're looking at. Yeah. I mean, I was in, I'm here in Vancouver.

I was at the, the connoxer playing the lightning that night. I was sitting in the press box ready getting ready for that game. And then I look at the scoreboard and I'm like, oh,, those two guys are playing. So that's that's the level of a a hype that I had personally in terms of in terms of knowing those guys were even going ahead to head that night. So yeah, but I guess it was it wasn't ESPN games, so they probably were promoting it from that angle. The Metri, Philip, which of the PDO cast on SportsNet. Thank you for joining us. Thank you to me, tree. Anytime pals. once in a, thank you for joining us. Thank you to me, tree.

Anytime pals. All right, welcome into the MMA hangout. UFC 296 on Saturday and there's only one person that I can bring in at Primomio, at Primoto, you Danny Sagar from a fight. What's up, brother? Good man. Happy to be here.

Thanks for the invite and ready to talk some fights. UFC 296 has a banger set up for us. Last card of the year for the UFC, in a year of the UFC being at its peak, right? 30th year anniversary, and it's been from January to December, all fights, all cards have been great, dude. Yeah, fantastic card, maybe not the most mediatic in terms of buzz and all that,

but if you just look at the fights, like every single matchup has a compelling storyline, great scraps, two title fights. I mean, what a way to close out the year. I know we lost the Ian Gary, Vicente Lukifai, which that fight, to me, was very interesting, but still the pre-lins are stacked. I mean, it's hard to complain about this card,

very, very good card to close out a fantastic year for the UFC. Let's start in the first title fight in the main event, Leon Edwards, who has been on an absolute heater, hasn't lost a fight since 2015, which is insane. Going against Colby Covington, who the last time we saw in the octagon was against George Mosvidal two years ago. That was 2021, if I remember correctly. It's been a two-year absence for Colby Coveington. Obviously, he's had the lawsuit issue that he was suing George for the two-piece Minnesota. He gave him outside of Poppy's stake. He hasn't fought since then. Your view on a Colby Coveington who hasn't fought in two years versus Leon who is just on fire right

now. Yeah. I mean, I feel like the initial reaction because this fight was basically announced all along as time ago, but they just haven't been able to book it because apparently Leon didn't want to fight Colby. Not because he's scared, just because he didn't think he was the most deserving contender. And that is 100% on our argument you can make. I mean, I can name like four or five other guys

that deserve to be fighting at USC 296 instead of Colby, but Colby sells. And for whatever reason, they know why he thought he married a title shot and here he is. So we've talked about it that extensively, I think. So I don't want to beat the dead horse, but I think this is the last title fight that Colby Coyton is going to be involved in. If he wins, obviously, we're going to see some more in the future. But if he loses, this is it. This is it. 35 years of age almost a two year layoff. This is

it. If he doesn't win this one, I don't see him going back to the line and beating two three contenders for contenders at 35 years of age and making another run for the belt. So this is, this is the last we might be seeing of Colby Coington as a title contender. It's crazy, it's do or die for him right now. Like everything, everything for him is on the line against a guy who is dominating the division who is fighting at just his absolute apex who just seems to be not phased

by all the Colby Covington bullshit that we usually see the character that he tries to pretend he is. Which I think is part of the problem with Colby, right? It's like, buddy, we know who you are. We people that know you know that you're not this guy, but you put this on this heel version of yourself to try and be, you know, so.

It works though. It works for sure, especially when you bring politics into it and he's the Trump guy and the Maga guy and he's like, it works for him. And I feel like that's kind of why Dana outside of like, Hey, just end the lawsuit. Let's kind of get everything out of the way. We'll give you a title fight. Hopefully you win if not good, good riddance. Like, it's, it's kind of over. But to me, just Leon is in the matrix right now where he is fighting so well. I would

have liked to see him versus Bala Muhammad. I think that would have been an absolute banger, especially because they're, because their fight got ended with the I-Poke last time. Yeah. That would have been huge. And of course, he's a backup fighter and everything's gonna probably go so good. We might end up seeing that fight.

Who knows, right? Like, anything can happen. And that would be amazing though, but your thoughts is it just Leon Edwards? Is just too good right now? Honestly, like, if these two were to, I think Leon is in his prime right now, I'm not sure if Kobe is probably not by like all indications,

but if both guys were in their prime, I would have a lot of issues trying to do a prediction on this one, but look, Kobe is a great fighter. I still think he is a great fighter, but I do expect some sort of downfall from the prime. I still think he's probably like a top five, certainly a top 10. But prime prime at 35 years of age, having fought in almost two years, I don't think that he is. So I'm going to go with Leon.

I just think he's in a way better moment. As you mentioned, his he hasn't lost in forever since 2015. His last few performances have been stellar. Everything just points that Leon should win this fight fairly comfortable. Kobe's a hard worker. I think he's going to have a great showing by no means is he getting embarrassed himself. But yeah, much better moment Leon right now. And it's obviously Kobe has insane cardio, good wrestler.

He has all that stuff with him, but those two years of layoff, and on top of that, we saw in the MMA transitive property math of, we've seen Leon, obviously the first fight, the second fight, whichever way you want to do that math against, against Kamaru'sman when he had the headkick, the original one, he was getting walked, the entire fight until that last year. Yeah, so like we saw that happen, but then the second fight between him and Kamaru for the belt, he just walked him down. So if you look at that transit of property, math, Camaro has walked down Colby, Covington, and then Leon walked down Camaro. So it looks set up for Leon Edwards to retain his belt and still. Yeah, I think that's a safe bet.

Again, Colby in a different situation, if you were to be active, maybe a little bit younger, I'd actually like his chances against Leon Edwards, but at this point in time, I think is better days are over. So Leon should win this, but I leave a small room, maybe like a 20, 25% chance that there could be an upset here. Going to the flyweight title, the co-main event of the night for UFC 296, Alejandra Pantosa, versus Brandon Roivot, another fight that we've seen before.

What do you think about this thing? Cause this division is interesting. There's been a lot of guys at the top for a log, for a long time, Mighty Mouse, Figueroa, Marano, and now it's Pantosa's time. Is he somebody that can continue to have the belt for a while, have a couple defenses under his belt? I think so.

I think so. This is a great fighter. And just to throw a stat out there, this is the first fight, title fight, at Flyaway that doesn't involve David and his figure at all, or Brandon Moreno sends November 2020. So it's been three years. Almost four years.

Since we've gotten a fight without any of these two guys. So it's a breath of fresh air for the division. I love Brandal Moreno. People know that, you know, that's my guy. I've been covering him since day one. I also love Davis and Figaro as well. He's a great fighter. But the division needed this.

The division needed a bit of a change in air. And we're finally getting it. This is a fantastic fight. We've seen it before. It was an amazing fight then. I'm sure it's going to be even better now because both fighters have improved a ton. Panthoja, I mean, you just look at the war

he had against Brandon Moreno, probably fight of the year. We'll see when the voting and all that gets done in a few weeks, but a fantastic fight. I do think he has the makings to be a dominant champion. And I think Brandon Royval, as good as he is, this should be a comfortable win for Pantosha. It's insane for those that don't know.

Pantosha's been fighting and trying to get his way up to this title and then beat Brandon Moreno, who again was a lovable and had a great story on his own, right, getting up to the title fight and retaining that belt. And now it's Pantosha's turn. He was doing Uber Eats before the title fight, like trying to get to a place where his camp was paid for,

everything was paid for and he could put food on table for people and now he's the champion. So it's a really cool story for Pantosha. I like him in this fight. It's just, we always have that 20% bump for the title holder. And right now Pantosha was good enough to beat Moreno, and I think he's gonna be good enough to handily beat Roy Val. I think he beat him with a, it was a rear naked choke last time.

If I remember correctly, he's admitted him. Submitted him with a rear naked choke. Like, I can see that kind of in the future. I might put a little something on him with draft kings for a submission. Pantosh, I think that's the way to go. I think if you really want to get specific third or fourth round, but I'm pretty comfortable that we're going to see a rear naked choke from Pantosh. I mean, he's just a better fighter.

He's just a better grappler. He's got a good chain. I think Roy Val might be the tallest fighter at Flyweight at five-nine, which that's huge for Flyweight. It's crazy. Doesn't pack much power. His thing is grappling and he's fighting probably the best grappler in the division. So if Brandon Moreno couldn't out strike him or knock him out, I don't think Roy Val

will. And in the grappling department, Pintoja should have a clear edge in this one. So Pantosa submission is a good bet. I like that. Let's move on to Walter Wait. Shavkat Rakhmana versus Wonder Boy Steven Thompson. This is an interesting fight too because Steven Thompson, Wonder Boy is a great chin, obviously an electric fighter, great kickboxer, but

Shavkat is just an animal. Dude is like a cyborg, he's like the Terminator. He just walks in, he doesn't care if he's getting punched in the face, he's putting his nose into the bud saw and just looking for that submission, looking for that knockout. Like he's a 17 to know for people that don't know. 17 to know from Kazakhstan, the guys, amazing. Yeah. Undefeated, wears dead skins of animals as hats, eats horse meat. This guy's the guys amazing. Yeah, undefeated wears dead skins of animals as hats, it's horse meat.

This guy's the real deal. He's the real deal. And he's fighting a former title challenger and Steven Wonderboy Thompson, a clean cut point fighter. I mean, this is contrasting styles, just a fantastic fight, wherever you look at it. For both guys rare, rare times you get in matchmaking where a matchup favor favors both fighters usually is somebody's getting the short end of the stick right and maybe we'll talk about that in a few minutes but in this one I mean for Stephen Wunderbord Thompson he's lost to the Al-Moham and he's lost to Gilbert Burns and all those guys have wrestled him into defeat right but

if you want to pick the biggest Muslim legitimate win while still being friendly to your style, which is Shraikr, is Shafkat. He's the baddest dude in the division that will stand and trade with you. So for both fighters of fantastic fight and maybe a title eliminator, I think I would like to think that ballall is next, but the UFC hasn't done them a ton of favors. I think the winner here will definitely get a big spotlight in the division. Isn't that interesting that it was first the guy who the UFC was kind of downplaying with Leon, right?

Gave him every opportunity to be the best. And then he finally got his shot against Kamahoseman who had what eight title defenses. I'm like something crazy. He right at seven or eight title defenses. He was pound for pound number one, pound for pound number one, lands the head kick, all of a sudden now everybody loves Leon Edwards. It's Rocky, let's go. They're putting videos up to the coach. The UFC didn't want this to happen, right?

And it almost feels like the same things happen for Balal Mohammed, who I saw in Jersey beat Gilbert Burns. And I was like, dude, Balal looks incredible. Like leg kicking the shit out of Gilbert Burns. Like he looked excellent as a fighter fighter and we're still waiting for that For that title a connecting fight, but right now is just kind of in the works But if Shavka beats Wonderboy, I mean it almost feels like Shavka is getting the the quick easy past Sun pass lane Straight to the next title fight, right?

Well, see man. We'll see. I mean, I think the US. he likes a shop got a lot. I think they would want to push him. That's also a guy that, you know, for the most part, like this is an American sport right there. The U.S. He's an American company. So everybody always tells fighters, learn English, learn English, but there's these rarities like, well, a ton like shop got that can pull it off just looking mean and that's it. You just stand there, look me, fight your ass off and leave. That's shop got man. So I think the your ass off. And we love you. That's Shavka, man. So I think the UFC would love to have a Miss Champion

and throw him up there. But I think the hard course, which is a big portion that the UFC very much respects. I think they would lose their shit. If Balmahamah doesn't get the next title, Shavka, because he's done it all, man. He's done it all. I mean, at this point, he can't do anything else,

but fight the champion. So for sporting sake, I do hope that ball always next. Shotcott versus ball all for eliminator. Oh, man. Again, a fantastic fight. I wouldn't complain about it, but at this point, I do think that ball always deserve the overshot, like giving him another fight, especially a guy that he is. Is this laughing the face at this point? It's criminal. You know, I wouldn't do that. Moving on to the last part of the night because the Walter Waite fight between Vicente,

Luke and Ian Machado Gary has been scrapped due to Ian Gary having pneumonia, which is, is, is Danny, I don't know about you, but I don't think pneumonia happens from one day to the next. I think there's been a buildup of pneumonia, where you kind of know you have it for like a week or maybe two, and all the sudden for this to come out on, we're taping this on Thursday morning, which the news broke, aerial broke the news, what, a couple of hours ago? Wednesday night, Wednesday night.

So we're talking about it less than 12 hours ago, the news broke that that Yamashado Gary had pneumonia, and now he's out, so that fight is scrapped, but the fight that I want to talk about that I feel is going to be, we're going to be on separate sides of it, you and I. Okay. Tony Ferguson and Goku, we versus a fighter that the UFC is trying to make happen in Paddy Pimlet.

Your thoughts, Tony Ferguson, do or die right now against Paddy, the baddie Pimlet. Dude, I'm going with Pad patty the baddie pumblet. Dude, I'm going with patty the baddie. Tony Ferguson is on a six fight losing streak, but I will say this though, a lot of people think that this is how we say in Spanish, you know, Joandro Almatarero taking him to the outhouse, you know, to get killed for, you know,

a younger, much hungrier lion, but I don't see it that way. I think this might be the easiest opponent. Tony Ferguson has ever faced in his entire career of the UFC. Maybe there's a couple names that you can throw in there. But if you look at his entire resume, Patipimglit is the easiest fight. And that's what he should be fighting at this point of his career. Almost 40 years of age, 39, six fight losing streak. I don't want him against Michael Chandler, I just engage you. No, give him somebody like Patty Pimble.

So contrary to many people, I do believe this is a competitive fight, a very winnable fight for Tony Ferguson. But if I had to pick somebody, I'm gonna go with Patty the baddie. Danny, you're missing the point though. You're missing. And by the way, my soul, my soul died a little bit

making that pick. Just letting you know. So please don't make me say that name again. Thank you. Because what you're missing and what the people need to hear is that Tony Ferguson look good against Bobby Green. Okay, had that eye poke. He had that eye poke, things went south,

but he looked good against, but if he dropped Bobby Green, if I remember correctly, right? In that first round, he might have stumbled. I think he might have dropped them, it's stumble that leave maybe put them to me. I'd have to rewatch the film, but the difference is this, Tony, Fergus and a Gokuwi has been working with the one and only,

David Goggins. And David Goggins is gonna be in the corner. Can you imagine if Patty lands a shot on Tony, they go back to the corner, and you have David Goggins in your face telling you who's going to carry the boats. Who's going to carry the boats? Oh my god. I just want a camera just on that corner. I would love to see it. I would love to see it. I don't disrespect a patty, but Tony Ferguson has been one of my favorite fighters for years,

even though he's sent me to hell in a media day and told me to eat shit basically, but I love Tony Ferguson. He is a badass. And look, I'll respect media day. I'm told me to eat shit basically, but I love Tony Ferguson. He is a badass and look, I'll respect to him. I would love to see him pick up a vintage win, whether it's an elbow or a dars. Call it right. Right off into the sunset with David Goggins and become an influencer, fitness, mental fortitude guru in the MMA sphere. I would love for Ferguson to go down that path.

He's plus 240 on draft Kings, right? And I might throw a little something, something, on a Tony Farris in win because of the fact of, there's too many things going right, Goggins in the corner, who's gonna carry the boats? He went through Goggins. Goggins, that's what I'm giving Tony Farris in, right? Goggins in the corner, and if you get stunned,

all of a sudden you look in that corner, and David Goggins is telling you, let's go carry the boats. Dude, I'm locked in. Right, if he gets knocked out or loses, he knows he's gonna have to run two or three laps around the world. So you better pick up a dub, you know what I'm saying?

Exactly. So again, that's it, 296 stack. We're not gonna get to the prelims, early prelims, a lot of bangers on there, Josh Emmett versus Can you who is it price price winner thug nasty giga chicot out price Mitchell in that fight's gonna be excellent Do or die for Josh Emmett to I think at this point? I know I think he's done. I even if he wins I he stays in the UFC. Obviously, but I don't seem getting that title shot

And he look good man. He looks so good and then ran into two buzz saws. And you were a diver. And the guard. Yeah. Cody Garber and also, yeah, I might throw a little something something on, uh, on, boom. I'm Brian, on a Brian Keller. Yeah. I'm glad that code.

Man, if I had to put a parley out there, shots out the draft Kings, Pantosia and Leon. Pantosia Leon. I might go, I might go Leon Colby over on rounds too. Yeah, 100%. Depending on what the round is, but yeah, the dagos to a decision, I think. He's Danny Seger from MMA junkie, brother. Thank you so much as always for hanging out with us and previewing yet another UFC card. We'll be back next year.

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