The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Postgame Show: Lose Your Faculties
Episode Date: November 18, 2024Dan nearly did it again and got through the show without a listener league update, but Billy simply will not let him. Then to wrap up the show, we get into some college football from the weekend inclu...ding whether any team did more damage to themselves than the Oregon Ducks, despite winning this weekend at Wisconsin. Plus, can Miami run the gauntlet with their defense and will Deion Sanders stay at Colorado for long after his son and Travis Hunter head to the NFL? And finally, an epic Stugotz mispronunciation takes us home. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Dan you did it again to me. What did I do? We went through the whole show you don't want to hear about
my listener league experience. I never do. I never do. I'm just not interested in any way about your
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That was too fast.
You need to help people get the information
in a way that's slower.
What do you mean?
Dkng.co slash Smirnoff?
Yeah, you just have to do it correctly
and not that quickly so that people
understand what you're saying.
I just boom, boom, I get it in
and then I talk about it a little bit more
and then boom, boom, I get it in again later on. That's why a little bit more, and then boom boom, I get it in again later on.
That's why, is that, you know what,
maybe that's what it is.
Maybe I've been reading it too quickly,
and that's why you haven't joined the league yet,
and that's why you're not interested in the league.
It's one of the many reasons I would put on the list
that I'm not interested on,
although I am tired of hearing Stugats
talking about how well you and Witte are doing,
and he's doing, like, during the break.
That's a different league.
No, that's not the one, the DKNG.co slash Smirnoff.
That's a different league.
I'm not interested in that one either.
The legalities of that league are questionable at best.
But that's not it.
Does anyone here have a league
I would be interested in Jessica?
Are you in any good leagues
that people would be interested in?
League of Legends, do you wanna play with me?
I'm trying to tell you, John who had a great week for me,
he was a steal of the week, I got him, 31.1 points.
You know who wasn't?
Russell Wilson, terrible performance.
He really shit the bed, 7.3 points.
Speaking of shit the beds, Greg,
you had something about body training?
Good natural segue, Billy, I'm glad that we just offered
you that as during the break you said you had a good way to lead into it
and you showed me nothing.
Thank you for that.
I don't wanna talk about Greg Cody's potty training.
I wanna talk about college football.
I don't blame you after that build up.
It's actually not my potty training.
I've been potty trained for about 67 years.
When you lose your faculties,
and I'm not saying that you have,
but you will at some point,
when you lose your faculties and you go back,
you can't re-potty train, right?
You know what?
I'm gonna cross that bridge when I get to it.
It's an incontinence thing, I think.
Like you want to use the toilet,
but you can't hold it anymore.
So you're still technically potty trained.
Yeah, I think so.
You're always potty trained.
Jessica, over the weekend,
and I know that this happens all of the time,
where professional football engulfs college football, but
in a season that hasn't had a college football team
That is actually flawless. Although there are unbeaten records seeing Oregon
Whiff and wheeze and just barely eke out a road victory at Wisconsin suggests to me that basically
winning on the road for college kids is really hard just everywhere and that there's not there's
not actually a team talented enough to be able to consistently overcome it even though Oregon did
win that game against Wisconsin. To me Oregon this weekend
did more damage to all the things that I think Oregon is by winning even though they won
at Wisconsin reputationally than anybody did by losing because I'm watching that game against
Wisconsin and Wisconsin is wildly unimpressive to me.
Yeah Wisconsin's offense isn't great they fired their offensive coordinator Phil Longo
after the game because it just really hasn't worked out.
They're on their third string quarterback
because Tyler Randyke got hurt
in the Alabama game earlier this year.
But also I think Oregon, it was a close game.
It was a really close game.
Oregon was not very good in the red zone.
They weren't good at finishing drives,
kind of like the Steelers on Sunday, honestly.
But it was also like, they haven't had a bye week
since like week three.
And so it's like their eighth game in a row,
and now they get a bye and play Washington.
So really they just had to get through that long stretch
and be undefeated.
And I don't really picture a scenario now
where they miss the playoff
because they're gonna beat Washington.
I'm pretty confident of that.
And then they're undefeated. So yeah, it was a close game. I think Wisconsin, like they're going to beat Washington. I'm pretty confident of that. And then they're undefeated.
So yeah, it was a close game.
I think Wisconsin, they're confusing
because they haven't really been great this year,
but they're not, the players were up for that game,
especially the defense.
It was a home game and the energy was really great.
And so I think all of those factors kind of play into it
being a little closer than you expect.
But Oregon, obviously they get the result
and that's all you need in a season
where you already have 10 other wins.
But do you understand what I'm saying
when I see that game and I'm like,
oh, came away less impressed.
You're undefeated, yes, but came away much less impressed
about any, I believe that any team in football
that we put in the playoff can beat that one.
It was a bad win, huh?
Yeah, but I think that's where college football is and I think people, media and fans alike are
really struggling viewing this sport any way than they used to. Right. Which is
wow that's an indictment on Oregon. I don't think it is. If you provide the
context of it's their eighth straight game, it's their third time traveling to a
different time zone within that stretch, it's a conference road game in an
historically difficult place to play. Winning is hard. There isn't a dominant team
in college football this year. There is an entire tier that pretty much anyone in that tier can beat
the other. I think it's a fascinating season for some of the reasons we're mentioning. For example,
a second tier team like Miami looks at Oregon barely barely win, and they're emboldened to think, why not us?
I actually don't think Miami is a secondary tier team.
I think the first tier has got about like 20 teams in it.
I look at Miami and I see, man, if you just have a C plus defense,
you can win a national title. I'm really excited for the college football playoff.
I'm excited for this Indiana Ohio state matchup that we have this week,
because I think everyone just assumes Ohio State is gonna hand
Indiana its scheduled loss and I maybe feel a little bit differently than that.
I think what's happening with the Big 12, I certainly want to give Deion Sanders
his credit because what he's done there this year. But there's
plenty of people doing that, however, he's got Kansas coming up at Kansas. They've
figured it out.
Jalen Daniels is really shaking off the struggles of the earlier part of the season.
It's a big rat poison week.
I love where college football is right now.
This thing with Colorado and Miami is interesting because similar, both of them are similar
in this regards to God.
You've got coaches who have fixed it with a bandaid.
It's not a long-term fix. It's a quarterback fix in Miami and Colorado
that has made them in year two and three
get to a place faster than they have any right to do.
But it's not enduring legacy or program building.
Dion is using this as a stepping stone.
It's the best the Colorado team has been in 20 years,
to start off eight and two.
But it's because he's got those two players it's just
come in
fix it and it's not a permanent fix it's not something that's going to build the
program but it's a great thing to build off because you got the quarterback
right in both colorado and my own sort of fast-track how quickly you get into
this conversation away that
for you know,
Florida State tumbles off to the side.
Florida fixes some things.
Florida, all of a sudden now, isn't the embarrassment
it was made to look like in the first game
of the season against Miami.
But these aren't enduring fixes.
It's all temporary and transactional.
I actually, I think one of the common threads
on Saturday
was that like there weren't a ton of crazy upsets,
but there could have been, if not for the fact
that having a competent college quarterback is a luxury
that a lot of teams just don't have.
If Wisconsin has a slightly better quarterback,
I said third string, he's their second string,
Braden Locke, that game, it might actually be an upset.
Same with Arkansas and Texas.
Arkansas's defense
played Texas really hard on Saturday, but the offense couldn't do anything. Utah and
Colorado is the same way. Utah's defense was hanging in there until they couldn't because
they just couldn't score. Their offense couldn't do anything. Stugats mentioned their quarterback
earlier throwing all those picks. It's just really hard to win in college football when
you don't have a quarterback. It it sounds like it's totally obvious,
but getting a good quarterback in the portal
or getting someone to transfer
or recruiting a quarterback that you can develop,
those are things that good programs
are going to have to figure out the balance of doing.
But you can't overstate how important it is
because that's been the difference.
And Oregon winning because Dylan Gabriel's
played college football for a long time.
He's good in late game situations. He has experience. He's competent.
And he'll get you three points when you need it at the end of the game.
And from what I'm hearing, it sounds like Colorado is going to get Julian Lewis,
the number two quarterback in this class that just recently decommitted from USC.
Colorado feels really good about where their position there.
I would say with Miami,
they're exactly where they need to be for this kind of coach in terms of his
approach to roster building.
Yeah, you may say they got Cam Ward.
Where does that leave them?
This isn't a Jordan Travis situation with the way that this head coach builds.
Deion's probably a little different because his approach to high school recruiting is
different.
He doesn't leave Colorado all that often.
But that being said, as I just told you, they feel really good about getting a five-star
quarterback.
Oh, but no, be clear on this part of it.
You can't get to real building unless you get the
momentum of it. The reason that I say that these aren't long-term fixes is
once you remove that particular quarterback Miami's not a special
football team. You're talking you're talking about getting C-plus defense to
run this gauntlet through the playoffs. there's no way to go on a winning streak through the playoffs playing defense as poorly as Miami plays it, when you're going to be playing against teams that are more complete than the ones they've been playing against.
I think the Colorado thing is so interesting because I don't think anyone knows if Deon wants to coach past these two players. His son, Travis, I don't think anyone knows and no one knows if Deion
would continue to be a great recruiter, a great coach.
It doesn't even matter.
It doesn't matter.
No, but it does feel like a short-term thing
where he's there just to get his son through.
He's done the job that he was hired to do.
He has done it.
He's done an exceptional job.
Look man, that team was the worst program
in the big time of college football when he
inherited it and they haven't been 8-2 since 2006.
The job has been done correctly no matter what.
He can lose against Kansas, the job's been done correctly.
I'm just wondering though if De'Ahm wants to coach past his son being at Colorado.
That's going to be interesting to see. He has built it so that he can do whatever it is
that he wishes to do if he wants to get out of there. To me what has happened
with the business of Colorado is one kind of interesting. To me optimal for
Dion would be to get out of there immediately. Optimal. Not to stay there
and and worry about whether you have to keep it there or not.
Right. You've got those two players and it's not just that you're having the best season Colorado's had since 2006.
You might get two dudes into the Heisman room, two of them with a program that two years ago was worst in the country.
Like to me, I get out of there with them.
Like I figure out whatever it is the next,
where am I wanted?
Where can I turn this into something
as they're talking on television on first take,
whether you should take over the Cowboys or not.
You laugh at that.
I don't laugh at that.
You laugh, but the Cowboys can't be worse
than they are right now if I put Dion in charge.
No, I actually think it would be a great move for Deon to take that job because the bar is so low after McCarthy
I mean Michael Irvin was pushing Deon Sanders to Dallas during the Tyson-Paul fight sitting right next to Jerry Jones
Michael Irvin mentions getting primed to Dallas. So that's a pretty good lobbyist to have Michael Irvin
It was funny watching Jerry try to be like, oh, let's pretty good lobbyist to have, Michael Irvin.
It was funny watching Jerry try to be like,
oh, let's talk about something else.
That's awkward, Michael Irvin.
Do you guys think that Ohio State will beat Indiana by?
Double Jijet Odd.
Yes or no?
I believe that Oregon had to win by...
Double Jijet Odd.
Does the second word start with a J the way you did?
I think I went to yeah.
Jigga.
This is like round one for me.
I think we might have to give this one first round because
it's easier than I thought it would be double.
Jigga odd.
I think you cut out double and just do Jigga.
Jigga.
Yeah, double Jigga odd.
Yeah.
We don't do unfair editing that we just play it how it goes.
Right double Jigga odd.