The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Postgame Show: Remembering Hulk Hogan (feat. JuJu Gotti)

Episode Date: July 24, 2025

Just moments into recording today's Postgame Show, the news broke of Hulk Hogan passing away at the age of 71. Dan and the Shipping Container did their best to discuss his legacy in the immediate moments after his passing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Hey Juju. What up dog? You like the Bills new red helmet? Oh yeah. I like that they got a blue one actually. They're waiting to debut. Like a new blue one? I like that one better. Yeah it's a blue one with the pants. Juju what I like so much about the the red helmet is they're gonna use it with their current uni set and they have that red alternate so it'll make some sense but I mean Dave's not wrong when he said their uniforms were bad when they had the red helmet, but these uniforms are good and I'd like the alternate look. Yeah, that white helmet gets a little stale. Just like, come on guys, what have we done? It's 2025.

Yeah, I mean, initially I was against all these teams having alternate helmets because that is what is so identifiable with this sport. I like to have inconsistent looks, but once you open the Pandora's box, let's get all these additional looks out there so some of these uniforms can make sense. When college football does that a lot, basically every team has at least three different helmets or three different colors of the same helmet. It makes the sport more entertaining to watch

because you have all sorts of different cool uniform combos. I could talk uniforms with Dave literally until my life's set. Juju. I have a direct message chain with multiple people from UCF where we were just predicting what the uniform sets for each game are going to be next year. And it was the best day of my life.

What a terrible group chat. Oh, it's called Drip U. It's incredible. Boring. Juju, what were the reactions of our football Americans to Dave Damishek's maiden voyage here with Metal Art before we debut his show, because I thought he was very funny. Yeah, he was hilarious.

I didn't know he was that funny. From the right side, I don't know if you guys can see it, he looks a little bit like Pablo Pascal, Pedro Pascal. Zaslow said the same thing, and I'm like, Zaslow, why didn't you tell him this? It's like the greatest compliment you can give a person right now physically.

A man? A man? There's no greater compliment. So can we turn Damashek, can we turn him into beefcake? Can we turn him into- It's his soda drinker's body, Dan. Don't start. Sex into sex symbol like that. He didn't stand up. You know why. You know, if the light catches him just right on the zoom, he looks like the sexiest man in America. Yeah, also soda drinker's body, another one nomination, Travis Barker, I think he has a soda drinker's body in the other way. That's such a perfect, perfect,

perfect way to play this game, Juju. Another good way to play it is put it on the poll, please, Juju, when you're done updating the polls, does Damashek look like if Pedro Pascal got really, Another good way to play it is put it on the pole, please juju when you're done updating the polls Does damashech look like if Pedro Pascal got really really sick? I'm just saying Okay now we're talking Lord like he had to be hospitalized for pneumonia, but he bounced back. Okay All right, I was like three weeks ago and he's bouncing back.

All right. But add this as well. Does Damyshek look like he was hospitalized for pneumonia and then just end the, like Pedro Pascal was hospitalized for pneumonia and end the question there. No, but like three weeks ago now he's on the road back. No bouncing back, just hospitalized for pneumonia.

No, because that makes it seem like he looks bad. The Pascal family's still worried he's not gonna make it. He's been hospitalized. But he's that makes it seem like he looks bad. No, the Pascal family is still worried he's not gonna make it. He's been hospitalized. But he's got like three weeks of having solid foods. No, the Pascal kids are really, they're worried about the tubes. No, no, he's gotten really, really sick.

I loved his riff on the Raiders logo. I can't believe I hadn't noticed that about the dolphins. How is it that I had not thought for a moment about just the irony, the comedic cosmic universe irony of two is helmet needs more helmets and the dolphin on the helmet doesn't have a helmet? But then it's helmet-ception because the dolphins were in a helmet inside of a helmet inside of a helmet even though the dolphins were in a helmet that the team has never worn before

as a helmet. Maybe the reason they got rid of it was because it was such a hypocrisy to have the helmet that had the M on it on the dolphin so they get rid of the helmet with the M so that this way they can just put the logo on the helmet. The hypocrisy is it's not a leaping dolphin, but there's a sun behind it. How? We are back! Chris, take it away. Thursday Thunder presented by DraftKings. DKings the crown is yours did you win one did you win one no absolutely not then but the segment is back man

tonight we are going with my sister Natasha Howard for over 10 points Howard for over 10 points. Kaitlyn Clark is still out and the Indiana Fever need pieces to step up and she is one of the biggest pieces over there in Indiana. Moving on, we're going with Aliyah Boston for over 7.5 rebounds tonight. She's going up against Asia Wilson, South Carolina versus South Carolina. So she's going to get in that paint and get on them boards tonight. Last leg in the same game. We're going with Nellisa Smith for over six points. Her ex team, the Indiana Fever, coming into town, she's gonna want to shut them down. Lock it in.

People, this is what I'm telling you and I will continue to tell you this. Juju cares way too deeply about these things that he is telling you to do and they are most often right. They are two-thirds of the time right. We need them to be a hundred percent right and they're almost always two-thirds of the way right so I recommend to you if you're not a parlay person bet them individually and Juju will have won you a great deal of money by now you just don't get it do you I'm just saying you just don't get it I feel like yeah it's it's a parlay and we're gonna hit it all right all right you know you don't get you. I feel like yeah, it's it's a parlay and we're gonna hit it. All right. All right, you know, you don't get it

You can also bet him individually though. You can it's a part. Let's play the sound I referenced four hours ago and never got to have Jeff Teague accusing LeBron James of using steroids What do you say he since he since walked that back slightly which bra was better? Miami Heat bra Miami Heat Browns Miami. I'm going this cast bra because this has bra had a three. Yeah He was on steroids bro, he had to sit out he was on steroids for real Was on steroids bro allegedly but like he had to sit out. We all remember when they told him like But like he had to sit out. But y'all remember when they told him like. There goes our Clutch Force allegations.

You don't remember that though? They started testing for HGH. And they was like yo. And he had to sit out. Like he said his back was hurting. He sat out for like three weeks and he came back skinny. This was just how I was in the league. We gotta interrupt this real quick.

Shocking breaking news and this is gonna be a complicated one. I hate that I'm delivering this news to you, but hit it. Well, I guess we shouldn't. No, you know what, that's in poor taste. Hulk Hogan has died at the age of 71. There were really concerning reports about a love sponge complicated relationship there. His show was reporting on his health,

the fact that he hadn't been speaking in several weeks. Hulk Hogan is now dead, according to TMZ, at the age of 70. Cardiac arrest, according to TMZ. So, it is a little bit difficult to go from that particular breaking news to the rest of what we're doing without eulogizing, at least for a moment, one of the most famous athletes in the history of the world. It can-

Who's had to deal with a public reckoning for his past. Yeah, it really complicated legacy. There are a lot of wrestlers inside the WWE now that feel a certain way about him. WWE fans have had the opportunity to voice how they feel about Hulk Hogan because of the tapes that have him saying the N- word on them. But if you could cast that aside, I'm not telling you to,

but I'm asking you if you could, at his peak, very few people were more famous than this one person. And at every point throughout our adult lives and childhood, Hulk Hogan did mean something and was identifiable and hopefully in death people can find those connection points too because he's certainly represented a lot to a lot of different people. Okay but let's let's go ahead and do this correctly and we can do it as a trulogy instantaneously without having

to varnish it up in the way that people do when folks die. When you say the complicated legacy of Hull Cogut, it includes being involved in the middle of a sex scandal betrayal, alleged betrayal with Bubba the Love Sponge that also includes the use of the N-word, that also includes Gawker bankrupting. Deadspin.

Bankroll by Peter Thiel. Yeah, Deadspin. Bankroll by Peter Thiel. Yeah, Deadspin. Really chronicles in the ushering of billionaires who have a lot of power and don't like to be outed by the media, corporate media, any kind of media, and want their power back and don't want to be told what to do. So they bankrupt Gawker through Hulk Hogan, funding Hulk Hogan, who at the time they got him, had a little bit of disgrace on him and a little bit of has-been on him, but had been at one time in the world the most famous athlete at the time

who might not have been like Muhammad Ali when we're talking about worldwide fame you can connect with, you don't need to understand the language this is a quote unquote sport that people are growing to embrace and it is led by this one guy who was the rock before the rock nationally and internationally and he built that sport into everything that it is and his relationship with other wrestlers was complicated because it was filled with lies and steroids and fights and everything that made wrestling

what it would become the way that UFC grew up right before our eyes and Hulk Hogan over the last five years, maybe 10, has torn down almost everything that he once built being a multivitamin salesman on behalf of America's kids because he wore the yellow shorts and he told you how to be healthy. And he really reached Americans and he reached the world

through his talent, through his speech, through his showmanship, and through being a great athlete with an extraordinarily limited wrestling ability. Because there wasn't very much wrestling there. Famously like the worst finishing. Yeah, yeah, I mean, but the charisma was off the charts and in our lifetime there were very few, either athletes or people that are associated with a brand.

Like you play under a brand, the PGA Tour, Tiger was bigger than the PGA Tour. Michael Jordan, Michael Jordan was bigger than the NBA. Hulk Hogan, bigger than professional wrestling. And say what you will, you can have your own rankings. If there is one singular face that you attach to sports entertainment and professional wrestling, it is Hulk Hogan, for better or for worse.

And like I said, there are a lot of children, he was playing a role. And the message when we were growing up was eat your vitamins, say your prayers, represent in America, and there there are a lot of children. He was playing a role. And the message when we were growing up was eat your vitamins, say your prayers. It represented America. And there'll be a lot of that nostalgic stuff too. I do need to say though,

because I've noticed in the last couple of days and where the generations gap are, generation gaps are on Ozzy Osbourne. Jeremy, what do you know about Hulk Hogan given that your childhood to adulthood has him as has been? Yeah, I mean, look, I'm also admittedly not a wrestling guy, so I never would have probably been introduced to much, but for me, in the same way we were talking about

Ozzy Osbourne, I knew Hulk Hogan first for his VH1 show, Hogan Knows Best. Of which he seemed- You knew him as a sitcom dad. Yeah, and you know, wasn't a huge fan of that one and the character that was there as much as I was with Ozzy Osbourne, who was like tremendous.

And then all I've known of him is when I was, what, 20 years old, the tapes came out of him using slurs. So like, I've never really had this connection point that I'm sure so many people do, but for me, I've always just, I've kind of only known the negative as someone who recently turned 30. So-

Well, people are complicated, people are onions. Yeah, of course. There's layers to them, and you're not your worst moment, you're certainly not your best moment, you're certainly not a character that you play on television. I will say, I'm friends with another very complicated person from professional wrestling, Rick Flair, and I will say that the kindness that Hulk Hogan shared,

showed Rick Flair while he was going through his health troubles was so shocking and uncommon to me that it really took me aback and made me view his kindness through a different prism. You're not all bad. You're not your worst moment. He was capable of very decent things too. I know from secondhand accounts.

Wrestlers would tell you that he is more responsible for building the sport than anyone ever, and they would also tell you that his self interests were such that he was everything from a liar to a snitch to a person who was only interested in making sure that he got over in wrestling and he got all of his. Like this is the opinion in wrestling. Yeah, that's not gonna work for me brother.

Had creative control, didn't necessarily do, like what Ric Flair did, which was put other people over, handed over to the other generation. Hulk Hogan didn't necessarily get down like that, but that adds to the lore. That's my biggest reference point to Hulk Hogan is the word brother. Yeah.

I never watched wrestling, too. Mine's the cupping your hand to your ear. Brother. He told the story on highly questionable. I would love for you guys to get it since we were talking about Andre the Giant. They flew across the country together. Were drinking the entire flight.

They got to Japan. Andre the Giant slams Hulk Hogan, lands on him, and because they drank so much the night before, Hulk Hogan simply immediately, upon Andre the Giant landing on him, shit his yellow shorts, just shit them like it's, so Andre the Giant lands on him and is so heavy that Hulk Hogan, who's not small,

whatever it is was inside him, just shot out of the one orifice available into the famous Hulkamania yellow shorts because of how giant Andre the Giant was. Again, this isn't Andre the Giant shitting in a bathtub. We bring closure to all of this by saying, this is Hulk Hogan shitting in his pants because the guy who landed on him

was somebody so large that he had to shit in a bathtub. I think we did a good job trulagizing Hulk Hogan, Juju. What do you think? Who's Hulk Hogan? Yeah, I mean, as one of job. True, logizing, Hogan, Juju. What do you think? Yeah, I mean, as one of the Negros on the show, I think there's a there's definitely a moment that we don't like. But like you said, you're not your worst moment. Growing up, he was the Hollywood Hogan, the NWO with the with the black and the gray.

So and thunder in paradise. So, and Thunder in Paradise. Oh, wow. Great show. So I grew up loving the man, you feel me? It's unfortunate what happened later on in life. And then, like you say, man, like we can't always, I'm not going to, I'm not going to worst moment him out right now. You feel me?

I'm just going to salute the man's life and his legacy. Great man when he was great to most of us, and rest in peace, brother. I know wrestling fans especially are heavily opinionated when it comes to Hulk Hogan's legacy, but it is sad and it is a reckoning with what he did at his last moment in front of a WWE audience. He got booed out of a building.

Not quite Ozzy's ending. No, not quite Ozzy's ending, that's for damn sure. We will get to some of the things here that we were gonna get to with Juju as awkward transition. But because we usually wait and we close the file on people, but because this happened during the show, I do think it honors Hulk Hogan to tell what I believe to be his most famous story told to us.

He was on with us a handful of times. And I think, Jeremy, you tell me if I have this right by the time we finish playing the sound. I think Pablo Torre finds out, took the fun out of this story by saying that this story's not actually true, but I wanna tell it anyway. And it kind of fits as Hulk Hogan's legacy ends.

Just end it with a lie and- Yeah, and his revisionist history. And and will remember it fondly who can you truth he's got a great story look at the end Hulk Hogan just had a story that was interesting is it true that you passed on the George Foreman grill idea no it's not true I missed the phone call. What happened? Tell me the story. Well, I mean, you know, I, George Foreman and I had the same agent.

And my kids were complaining that I was always towards the end of the line picking them up at school. They would get out of school at 3 o'clock, and these soccer moms would start lining up their minivans and talking shop. You know, and so I would come a quarter to 3, 15 minutes before my kids get out Of school. I was at the back of the bus

So I went to McDonald's early got diet cokes and get the burgers and the fries and it was a big surprise I get to the school about quarter after two. I was the first one in line. My kids came out They're all excited I had the drinks and the hamburgers and stuff and we went home and I checked my answer machine And my answer machine my agent called me goes hey, Hogan, I'm calling you. I got two things, I got a grill and I got a blender. I got these two choices for you and George. So when I called him back, my agent says,

well, I called you first and I figured you'd take the grill but you weren't home so I called George and he took the grill. So $450 million later, we've got the George Foreman grill in every size and color you can imagine. And I got the blender that you put eight ounces of water, a scoop of protein, and a AA battery in it, and it'd spin three times and fart and cut off.

Great story, unfortunately. Who cares if it's true or not, Dan? Totally untrue. Who cares? That's his legacy. Per the grill inventor and also his agent. It is his legacy. You can say that about him. Great story.

He cares if it's true. Well, I care about the one story, whether or not it was true. This is why we hate journalism, right? This is why everybody hates Pablo for finding out that that's not true. He ruined it. Top 100 podcast all time. Well, so is Good Hang with Amy Poehler, and that's only been out since March, so I don't know what this list is. Maybe next time.

Juju, what else do we have today that you wanna get to before we get to the polls? I wanna say Elle Duncan, another magnificent performance and appearance on the show. She broke down the talks like you, you want them broke down. She made a good point. Why is anyone on the side of not paying anyone?

You know what I mean? Like everyone out there standing up. What is your reason? I hope everybody gets paid. I hope everybody I know gets a billion dollars. I don't care if they deserve it or not. Just get it. And also one mistake that you all made during that.

She said that whenever the New York fans was saying, hey girl, whenever they was asking Kat, they wasn't saying, hey girl, they were saying, oh my God. And so, yeah, so they was there, oh my God. But yeah, man, great opinions from Elle once again. We interrupted because of the breaking news where we were headed with Jeff Teague accusing LeBron of steroid use. We interrupted because of the breaking news where we were headed with Jeff Teague

accusing LeBron of steroid use. How ferocious, or how carefully has Teague walked that back? Oh, he's walked it all the way back. Y'all are weird. I was just joking about Bron. Chill, he was just that dominant. Chill, that was on his IG story. He did say allegedly too at the end.

Yeah, his confidence there though. That was conviction. Right? Wow, we weird Y'all weird is great Added you Dan your podcast is very popular. I heard on Levitar show. What what do you mean? He should have added me Famously you did it first right that's let that be a lesson why you don't put lebron and steroids in the same sentence if you had to bet and be right no no i get it i get it nope uh never did anything update the polls at levitard show show. I don't like, I don't know. Nope, definitely not that past and future member

of the Miami Heat never did anything like that. Hedging his pants. Right. Also, before I get to the polls, I want to salute the biggest story on the internet yesterday. We didn't talk about, congratulations Taylor Rooks for tying the knot. She got married yesterday to a brother named Shane.

Congratulations, love is back. She married her brother? Wow, that's shocking. That Juju, there are moments on Twitter that unite us all on that terrible platform. It used to be things like DeAndre Jordan being held hostage by the Houston Rockets, but last night was one of the good ones.

Star studded. Star studded with dudes like Jack Harlow that are still playing the long game. Hell yeah. First poll. More impressive to win. A Pulitzer Prize or two championships? 68% of the audience says two championships. Congrats, Zaslow. Also more love we didn't mention, Clay Thompson and Meg Thee Stallion.

Bravo, bravo in that camp. Most painful place to get a tattoo, the neck, the kneecap, the lip, or the skull. Man, this is the closest race ever. But with 29% of the vote we got skull as the winner and yes, it does hurt. It hurts very much Neckat was I still think the kneecap is the one though It's like until you got a kneecap tattoo you can't vote on this boat. It also in the last we miss I think like Something about it. No one doubts that we know well, you know, I mean look look at me

I understand but you brought that one on Do the show Last poll does Joe Rogan have weird nipples 95% of the audience says yes, he does and those are your polls Good show today the right and the left we had a lot of gas and we still made it work and Rest in peace Hulk Hogan rest in peace Hulk Hogan rest in peace brother rest in peace brother And make fall That's the way you do that