The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Postgame Show: The Death of the ACC

Episode Date: December 5, 2023

Does FSU's exclusion from the CFP actually signal the death of the ACC, and we have John Skipper to blame? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Four things. It's on my theaters, December 15th. BAM! Lucy, you mentioned the death of the ACC. And as someone that has been trying to back channel, a way out of the ACC for several years, trust me when I tell you, it's hard getting out of this goddamn thing.

And every time I see John Skipper through the holes, I curse under my breath, God damn you. Like, you got us good. We're locked in. It was a 14 year deal, 14 years that he negotiated the first of these conference, 2036. Is it 2036? Like, I'm, we're not gonna be a round men.

Paul, John jobs Michael. This is This is not gonna see 2036 away things are going I'm stuck put it on the pole. I'm sorry. Are we gonna see 2036 the way things are going at levertard show But that's obviously where the conversation points been going Uh for fsu fans. Okay, let's sue the CFP. Let's not pay the players a base salary. Let's still find ways for us to get out of this conference. Let's raise private equity. So we can buy the university that made the bad deal out of this deal because that. Because that's where it's going.

They don't, the university themselves don't want to pay for their mistake. No, no, just let me out. Or you guys pay for it. Same thing with NIL. There is, the NCAA president actually is proposing a motion. And this exists in some schools

where the schools themselves can fun NIL and provide all these student athletes a base salary And he's proposing that this happens in a new FBS subdivision basically super league for these big schools and schools like Ohio State with their Massive alumni base and and their huge student body. They're gonna benefit from that It's gonna be a little bit more difficult for private institutions. And here's where it gets real interesting because if you're a private institution that doesn't have the funding that Florida or Ohio State or Penn State have, do you think the administrators and the coaches are going to take pay cuts? Because this is all going to go under one budget.

I don't think so. So he's not going to get the support for that. No, no, no, that's the Liam Neeson. That's going too far. Pay cut for me? No, no, no, no, I'm here at taking, you know, the committee of the Orange Bull out to Flemmings for Tom O'Achtuze, can't afford to take a pay cut. My job is far too important.

It's a pretty funny place that we're at and trust me when I tell you that the lead option is certainly not the school's paying for their mistake. Yeah, Skipper Goddess. Mike, you got $50,000. Yeah, help. That all goes into a pool.

Well, do you? Not anything more. Something I think about a lot is new. Devoted all of this to the pinstripe bowl. Something I think about a lot in this new, just like NIL day and age of this sport, it's like at what point do coaches are like, you know what, I wanna win. I make a ton of money.

Why don't I take something out of my salary and put it into the NIL fund? Like I don't know if there's a rule that prohibits that, but like, there's a couple of animals that might do it. Like Mark Supes makes so much money. You don't need all that like to take Kentucky and you can make a real difference with that money Mark. Wouldn't that be part of the negotiation?

Like you want me to coach here? I need X amount of money for NIL every year. Yeah, that would make a ton of sense, but I'm sure that's not how it's going. Those conversations are happening. In fact, I've heard of pretty funny, this will reveal the administration or the head coaching candidate

But is this is this one of those a microwave and nugget? I think these things need a little bit. I think these needs some flare You can't limp in on it if you're giving information. They need so as I head coach talking to a university The this coach is a former head coach is not coaching as a great television smile And he asked this institution about N.I.L And this institutions had success has had plenty of big name coaches which is not coaching as a great television smile. And he asked this institution about NIL. And this institution's had success, has had plenty of big name coaches work for it in the past.

And the administration, as this story was told to me, and I have every reason to believe it because this person is very plugged in, told them, oh, don't worry, that's not gonna be around in a couple of years. Yeah, we don't really have a plan for that because in a couple of years, I's not gonna be around in a couple of years. Yeah, we don't really have a plan for that because in a couple of years, I just got to be around. That administration joined a mega conference this year.

These administrators are getting paid far too much and they don't have foresight and we have the Wild West happening right now. The portal is insane. If you think that he has a thousand players in the portal, let me tell you something. A lot of these players that are being named. I've heard their named whispered about in September. The back channeling has been going on for a long time. It is insanity. I don't play. It's awesome.

I mean, it is. It's really fun. It's for I was dancing portal season. I was dancing about it. It's also fun. I mean, it is. It's really fun. It's for I was dancing portal season. I was dancing about it because of a Miami fan. I wasn't necessarily co-signing the on Sanders' portal season because I want to be the dirtbag in the end that wins. But this is, it's too much. It really is.

And I, there isn't appeal, I guess, to some about the honor amongst thieves because it's always been a part of college football. How can you cheat and get away with it? But it is crazy. And different states have different rules. And different universities have different resources. And it's not uniform and there are unfair advantages and there are disadvantages and it's all kids and it's all bag men and it's all high school coaches

and it's all dirty and no one wants to talk about that. Ever and everything matters, everything matters from a post of a kid's parent to how you performed against the Thune Cookman, everything has a ripple effect in it. It's insane. It is so second to second. The thing is, is like the NCAA took a wild time to just be like once NIL was approved.

They were like, we're done. We're not going to supervise anymore. We're not going to do anything. We'll, we'll block some transfers every once in a while. But the NCAA, when that happened, realized there's nothing we can do here. They've stepped off. There's no real governing source in any of college football now. That's what they're like, Congress and do it. They can't do anything. It's so wonderful from this perspective for chaotic

business things, uh, Stugots, because I can't think of a whole lot of businesses off the top of my head that run the way that I'm about to describe to you, which is you've got at the top end a multi billion dollar entity that is one of the most powerful things anywhere on business NFL and it has a totally free minor league system of bodies that until recently was soaked in injustice disguised as amateurism but and this part is amazing to me. The way that we're going to correct the injustice is not by paying the players from all of this television money. We're going to crowdsource it and we're just gonna make whatever your allegiances to local identity are profitable.

We're going to beg so that you pay our players so that we don't have to pay our players and we're not gonna govern any of it well because it can't be governed. So it's just, it's always been. It's great. It's always been the inner cities fighting for money in basketball and football. And when you say these players have a lot of options

I say a lot of times they don't like in boxing actually have that many options This is an option to give your body over for money But the fact that the minor leagues here Can't even pay for your body destruction themselves through the television money pay for your body destruction themselves through the television money. They're just asking the boosters, hey, can you do this for us just based on how much you care? But many are, Dan. Yeah, it's an amazing business strategy. I'm not even complaining about it. I'm just marveling at the stupidity in it and just what a great business that is. I would love metal-arc media to

have a farm system where I could just dispose journalist bodies in and crank out money from people that are giving it to us. It's per insanity and a lot of these public institutions also received state funding. And it's just, hey, we're fans of this program. I didn't even go to this school. I'm giving you tens upon tens of thousands of dollars to nail your decision. And when you botch it, the way that Texas A&M botched it, you're going to come back to me to help pay for your bad decision and trust you to make another bad decision.

Let's do it again. A wild example of this is when Iowa football is going through that insane scandal and they had to pay for the investigation for it. They're like, we'll just get money from the state. We'll just have the state take care of it and eventually that blew up in their face and they're like, fine, we won't, but that's how crazy it is. It's like there's a scandal within Iowa football and they're like we're gonna make the taxpayers of Iowa

Pay for this. Don't worry. Ron DeSantis is taking care of things for Florida state folks Seemingly allocating a million dollars of the state budget towards suing the college football playoff on behalf of VFSU First of all wondering where that energy was for UCF, okay? You're in state school. Second of all, it's about you. Yeah, it is. And second of all, it really is amazing that when we look at all of this money and where it's coming from to buy out Jimbo, right?

You're looking at Texas A&M boosters who have oil money, and that's all destroying the environment, and then the unfettered capitalism with that on top of it is all right, now we going to spend hundreds of millions dollars on college football we have been very serious about pain and now Jeremy has made things even worse by summoning politics so can we make it just slightly lighter here by going to a hockey video uh... where someone is farting please

my last forty hours from the end of the game on Saturday to the start of this one. Yeah, I mean, obviously it wasn't great feeling last game, but... Oh, I was the question. Yeah, I don't mind. Yeah, so let me just... Sorry. Yeah, I mean, I was just...