The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Postgame Show: The Hockey Show's Favorite Hockey Movies

Episode Date: July 26, 2024

The Oilers hired Stan Bowman as their General Manager and Executive Vice President of Hockey Operations. Roy and David dive into why that could be a problem. Plus, the duo each delivers their Top 5 Hockey Movies of All-Time! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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That's David Druk at The Hockey News, and we are going to talk about hockey movies coming up. We got ourselves a top five list of hockey movies that we believe are very good. We took a lot of time and effort into these rankings, so I hope you guys appreciate what we did. Well, you did. But first, some news on the hockey world came out this week as the Edmonton Oil is hired Stan Bowman as general manager and executive vice president of hockey operations.

Stan Bowman, Joel Quinn, and Al McGuysack were suspended indefinitely in 2021 because they mishandled some sexual assault allegations by former Blackhawks player Kyle Beach against video coach Brad Aldridge. Aldridge has his name on the Stanley Cup, or I should say had his name on the Stanley Cup for the 2010 team, except the hockey Hall of Fame edited it out. They handled a bunch of Xs above Brad Aldridge's name. That's gotta be like the biggest disparagement.

Like that's all, it's not even like getting it erased. Like it's there with X's over it forever. Yeah, every time you ask, why is his name is X now? Oh, because he sexually assaulted a player. That's awful. Yeah, that's awful. Three weeks ago, July 1st, Bowman, Quintenville, and MacIsaac were all reinstated

by the National Hockey League. So three weeks later the amateur allers have decided to hire Bowman as pretty much head man in charge. Hockey czar. For the defending Western Conference champion and the question is why? Well I see why like if you want to like dive into it you can see why based off of the hockey Xs and Os, the nuts and bolts, what he did in Chicago when they were good. He took over a team that was in win-now mode and he helped them to win now for a few years. And so I can see why Edmonton,

Edmonton very much in win-now mode, arguably the top team in the West right now, heading into the season. It's what Aldrich, what Aldrich? No, no, not Aldrich. No. It's what Bowman did after the Blackhawks started winning Stanley Cups. That kind of destroyed that dynasty, which is what draws the questions. And that's just the X's and O's element.

We're not even talking about the morality and that whole part of hiring him. Taking a team that's maybe like, I mean, I don't know when Edmonton has been this high in terms of excitement, in terms of the team. They're viewed as maybe the best team in the West right now. And the fans are pumped. And now you bring in somebody that,

at least half the fan base, you have to think they're wringing their hands right now. Like, what the hell hell are they thinking bringing in this guy who's got you know kind of a you know a scarlet letter on his forehead for lack of a better term. You gotta wonder, well, how can we trust the organization if you have somebody who can't go to bat for one of the players like Bowman did not? And you gotta keep in mind when these allegations happen, this happened during the playoffs. This happened during the Shark Series when the Blackhawks played them in 2010. That got swept under the rug. Nothing happened to Aldridge during that time. So what's to say that that happens again, one of the coaches, one of the people in the front

office or player to player, what if that happens during the season and that happens again? What do you do? It's tough. You have to think that this is something that's crept into a player's minds over the last week or so. I mean, how could it not? You would think that after what happened in 2010 and the setting, in the place that we're living in right now, that if, God forbid, something like that did happen, that the players would feel empowered enough to speak up about it, which probably wasn't the case 20 or 15 years ago when it happened in 2010.

But it's just, it's a thought that players are having that's not necessary. Like, was Edmonton that desperate to was he like today zero win like this is the guy This is the only guy that's going to work for us because there's so much Gray, like, you know, it's so far from black and white with this. It's not right or wrong Like there's so much nuance to it It you just wonder what what's the decision making that behind it? Why was this the guy that it had to be. And this is another thing that also thought about that this is a retread. This is how the Mike Babcock's of the

world keep getting jobs because she keep going back to that well. Like at least the Panthers they got Bill Zito like that was a former agent who was in the Columbus organization who was assistant GM, they hired him and now the Stanley Cup champion. They didn't go with a retread. They went with somebody else who proved themselves. The Oilers are not doing that here. No, they're not and they're opening themselves up

to a lot of scrutiny as I mean, obviously what we're talking about it, it's been widely discussed over the past few days. In this day and age where so much is image and as I said I just keep going back to where the Oilers are right now. Like this is probably the best spot that that team and that franchise has been in since you know mid 2000s when they went to the Stanley Cup final and even then like that team that was kind of like a Cinderella type team that went to the final with like UC marketing and I think was their

goalie and like Chris Ponder was on that team. Yeah, I just, I don't know, man. I'm curious to see how it plays out and I'm rooting for this to all end up being okay that, you know, Stan Bowman has learned his lesson. I mean, we know Sheldon Kennedy kind of went to bat for him and that's kind of the big thing that they're hanging their hats on out there. And hopefully that this is just a big learning thing

and it shows that we can all get better and we can learn from our mistakes. But I have a lot of questions and I'll be watching this very closely as I'm sure a lot of people will be. Transition. Alright, so this is where we talk about the top five movies that we have on our list. Alright, explain what we're doing here. So Roy and I came up with a list of, was it, 11 different movies with a couple sequels

mixed in. They are, I'll go down it real quick, Miracle, the Goon movies, the Mighty Duck trilogy, Slapshot One, only Slapshot One, Youngblood, Mystery, Alaska, The Tooth Fairy, Sudden Death, Happy Gilmore, and Most Valuable Primate. Now we judge these movies on four criteria, storytelling, acting, hockey accuracy, cinematography.

We ranked each category from one to five, so the highest score any movie could get is a 20. You may need to go back and re-listen or re-watch that to get it all, but this is where we're at. We did this yesterday, and I took a lot of time, I'll be honest, I went back and I watched footage. I put way too much time into this, but it was a lot of fun.

So that's our top five hockey movies, according to Roy and I. Roy? All right, so I'm gonna start with what did not make my list off the board, The Mighty Ducks. All right, so it was a zero on hockey accuracy. Let's get that straight. That's ridiculous.

It was a one on storytelling. It was a Disney-fied story. Oh my God. So get that out of here. The acting was bad, that was a Disney-fied story. Oh my god. So, get that out of here. The acting was bad, that was a one. And cinematography, I'll give that a three. So yeah, so that's off the board. Like that didn't make the list.

I'll give you my stats on that. I'm with you though. Mighty Ducks didn't make my top five. None of them did. They're just off, which is interesting. I wasn't quite as brutal as you were with, like the acting wasn't great, but there are kids movies, there was some decent acting, the cinematography was whatever. Yeah, which is interesting. I wasn't quite as brutal as you were with, like the acting wasn't great, but they're kids' movies. There was some decent acting.

The cinematography was whatever. Yeah, well, kids' acting is- I give a good storytelling, because I loved those stories when I was a kid. I gave them a four, a four, and a three on the storytelling. But either way, they're all out of my top five. All right, let's go with, for me, outside looking in. That would be Happy Gilmore.

Yeah. Yeah. Listen, the acting, I'll give a two. Maybe, you know what? I'll give it a three because of Christopher McDonald. Yeah, so Shooter McGavin, get yourself a, and that's your thing. That's exactly what bumped it up from a two to a three for me too.

Off my list, our most valuable primate, and the Tooth Fairy, which, which the tooth fairy don't look up the cast in the tooth fairy it is ridiculous the cast that are like Julie Andrews Billy Crystal Ashley Judd Steven Merchant like this is like an all-star cast Disney went all out for the tooth fairy but those are not even outside looking in those are just straight off the board yeah well cuz my fifth place is a four-way tie so my outside looking in, those are just straight off the board. Yeah, well, because my fifth place is a four-way tie, so my outside looking in is kind of fifth place. You're doing ties here.

Well, because we did a score ranking, so I'll give you my... By the way, I'm not keeping count. I don't have a tabulator, I don't have a calculator, I don't have paper here, or I don't have a pen. As long as you remember your top five, we're good. Yeah. So my fifth place, with 14 points each each were Happy Gilmore, Slapshot, Goon 1 and Goon 2. So that's fifth place, four weights high, four, not even bronze

medals because it's fifth place. But no, I mean like the Goon stories are great. I love both stories. I thought they're great great The hockey accuracy is actually pretty good in in the goon movies the hockey accuracy and hot happy Gilmore I give it that too because he's a he's taking slap shots to play golf. So I'll give him that oh Good and and also I don't even did I mention slap shot is fifth place for me tied for fifth fifth place for me? Tide for fifth? Uh. Slapshot, I gave it a four for storytelling and I gave it a four for cinematography because those old arenas, I love them.

Hockey Accuracy, just a three and acting, I mean, Hanrahan! Yeah, that doesn't hold up by the way. Yeah, not so much. You can't say the line for that. No, no, no, no. Cannot do that. Most good movies from that era would do not

Hold up these days. Yeah number five for me is mystery Alaska Okay acting is I would give it a four on acting okay Because Hank is area. I would say that is his most normal character that he's ever played Yes, normally a voice actor that was all his voice. Yeah, that was all his voice. That's all him, basically. Hockey accuracy, I would say, why would the Rangers do that? Yeah. A one.

But you see, when I'm talking hockey accuracy, I'm talking like the hockey action in the movie. OK, yeah, sure. That was pretty good. The hockey action in the movie, yeah, sure. No NHL team is taking a mid-season break to go play pond hockey. Let's still risk getting injured on a non certified. The cinematography

was a three because... Oh dude, cinematography for me was a five. That was gorgeous. That was that. Come on. All right my number four is Youngblood. I gave it a four for storytelling, awesome story. Keanu Reeves was the goalie. Patrick Swayze, you know, it's great acting as well. Hockey Accuracy, I gave that a four. Cinematography, I gave it a three. But just a great hockey movie. Also Cynthia Gibb, gorgeous.

Number four for me is Son and Death. Now the acting was... The acting is very like peets and valleys because John Claude Van Damme is John Claude Van Damme. But Powers Booth? Yeah he's good. He's up there. The dude that played Hallmark whose name I can't think of? Oh man he was in a full metal jacket. Yes he was. I forgot his name. But yeah.

Yeah, he's a decent acting in that movie. Yeah. Damien, Damien, Damien Hallward. Ah! There it is! Wow, that's some good recall right there. Thank you, thank you. Yeah, a terrible acting, but in a good way.

I'll give that a three, just based on Powers Booth. Just like Hank booth just like Hank Just like Christopher McDonald Yeah storytelling For they dropped a helicopter into the igloo. Yeah, so sudden death is my number three So I should give it a five for storytelling I gave it a four for acting and cinematography because as as I just said, just cool use of the igloo. Hockey accuracy, I gave it a three because it looked good, but so far-fetched.

Tom LeVer! Yeah. Get your ass back in there! Absolutely, absolutely not. I think a head coach would notice that his goaltender doesn't- It's perfect because coaches don't know goalies at all. Just ask Paul Maurice, who says he doesn't know anything about goalies.

It's just saying it fits. Miracle was my number three. Oh. Yeah. It was excellent. Five. Excellent acting. Yeah.

Kurt Russell as Herb Brooks. Great job in that movie. Hockey Accuracy is a docudrama, so that's going to have to be a five. Yeah. But storytelling, Dysnified. So I would have to give that three unfortunately on that one and of course uh...

cinematography is always going to be good on that one uh... number two for me was uh... mystery alaska storytelling but i gave it a four for acting i thought they ought to rustle crowe was really good. The girl who played his wife, who I can't remember, I think Nancy something. Just really good across the board. The girl who does the cheese commercials,

she was the news reporter that Stink Martin tried to hook up with. It's just funny. The cinematography was amazing. And I thought the hockey action was pretty accurate, too. So 17 out of 20 for Mystery Elastica. Goon is my number two. Yeah, Goon was an excellent movie.

I loved that movie. The acting, I mean, come on. I gave Goon four for acting. Yeah, really? I did. I gave it four for both movies for acting. Yeah. Oh, man.

It's a great cast. Lea Schreiber is the man. I would, yeah. Yeah. So I would give that a three points on Yes. The voice of Hartnock. I would give that a third place on that. Storytelling as a comedy, all of this is far-fetched, so I give it a three. Yeah, same.

Hockey accuracy, I mean. It's pretty good. I give them fours. Yeah. The pads are on straight. They look good. The hockey action looks pretty accurate. The one thing I would thing them on is towards the end of the movie the playmaker

getting a five-minute major for high sticking would normally be a game misconduct well yes yeah so that that's something I would absolutely give give them that knocks it down from a five to a four yeah yeah, but otherwise Excellent movie so my number one miracle Amazing hockey movie the only thing that didn't get a five for me was you're gonna throw something at me. It's the acting just because the high-end the Kurt Russell the Patricia Clarkson like the professional actors were great and One or two of the hockey players were professional actors the rest like the guy who played Mike Rusione God love him from the same you know you could tell that they weren't pro professional actors but overall I mean it's just I gave it 19 out of 20 it was it's an amazing hockey movie and

number one for me is Slap Shot cream of the crop except it does not hold up. Except we can't watch it in public. You got the greatest, one of the greatest actors of all time in Paul Newman. He said he had so much fun doing that movie, his most favorite movie so you gotta give that to him. And the hockey accuracy, I mean, a lot of line brawls in the national hockey? Not in the national. There were some very true elements. Very true elements to that. And also the Hanson brothers are iconic.

Yeah, yeah. For four decades now, those guys have been part of hockey lore. Yeah, so that's our top five lists. Not bad. You probably won't agree with us. Maybe you will agree with us. But we're just filling content in the off season. So what do you want us to do?

So the next one that we're going to do is we're going to rank fictional hockey players. And that one is going to take an even deeper dive, I think. Because that's more than just movies. We got to get into like Shorzy. Yeah, television. Yeah, so that should be fun. The blueberry bulldogs out of Sudbury.

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