The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Postgame Show: The Thing About Being 17

Episode Date: November 30, 2023

Riley Leonard has taken to The Transfer Portal Dating App, and it has all of us remembering how stupid we were at 17 and imagine having to make a massive decision on where to attend college and get paid thousands of dollars. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Your listening to Giraffe King's Network. Friendly reminder to those in town or want to make plans to come into South Florida to hang out with us on December 11th. It's all presented by Miller Light and Dollar Shave Club. It's a Levitard show hang for Monday Night Football. We're going to be at Dolphin Mall at the Miller Light Stage at Fivo Miami for the Monday Night Football game that is presently scheduled to be Titans Dolphins. And we hope to see you there.

We typically have an end of the year party with our fans. And we're really, we're really excited about this one because it's open all ages. You can bring your kids. It's easy to get to And it's in to Rale which is especially Hispanic and Latino down here in Miami So it should be a real fun vibe and it's for a dolphin game for a dolphin team. That's pretty good So we can't wait to do that. I want to talk to you guys The transfer portal in college football has been a big topic on today's show

Certainly it's going to be a big topic on foot girls It's been a big topic on today's show. Certainly it's gonna be a big topic on foot girls. Up, it's, okay. You guys, maybe you can warm up to it. Okay, it is foot girls. Just try it on, and then we'll go from there. I don't think so, Mike, and I'm not even on it. All right, well, do you wanna be on it this week? Just, yep.

We've got to thank you so much. I've committed a lot of budget to it. So, just take that into account. How much? So much. It's so much. Committed a lot of budget to it. So just take that into account. How much? So much. It's too much. We need a number. I'm in bad.

I went in, from my personal funds. Like I commissioned this thing. You used your, your golden cane funds? Yeah. Well, we somehow got just, just in Scott, even though I made this foot girl's intro. Try to be a TVD leaving. But I want to talk to you, which you need a quarterback.

I do want to talk to you about a quarterback that I'd love to target. I don't think he's at all interested in Miami's, a do quarterback, two-sport athlete, Riley Leonard, a really tremendous quarterback, and really did a lot for Mike Elko's Duke team. He entered the portal. And this one made me sad because it's almost like

he didn't want to leave, but he had to leave for this next step And I see just really having trouble in containing her smile because the rumors have him going to Notre Dame Which is interesting because he has a do not contact on his portal designation right now But we all know they're all contacted well before I love that do not contact. It's like Yeah, the designation so do not contact means don't contact me if you don't already have my number. I found that out. It's like being on a dating app and not wanting anyone to message you. Like, come on. Well, you're on a dating app. Yeah, but it's in the transfer. It's another day. I'm never going to recruit a quarterback again or they're just going

to do this. They actually have a freshman coming in next season who's very highly rated Chris Cody. So highly rated that they want Riley Leonard. Well, he's a he'd be a fresh. So I'm just be doing. If you want to actually learn about the quarterback room, which I don't know if you. Is it a good room? I love a good QB room. It's a good room, but I think there were

questions about if Steve and Jelly who right now is the back of it. It's OK to be the team that just buys quarterbacks. I agree. And in fact, that is kind of like every season in college football, if you want to make the playoff, you have to go all in every season. And so if you're a good college football coach and a good program, you have to strike the right balance between development and getting guys in the portal.

And it seems that for the most part, the best teams are able to strike that balance. Teams that just find players in the portal, maybe they don't have the depth to compete later in the season, or teams that just are developing talent like Clemson, for instance, that isn't getting a lot of guys out in the portal, maybe they don't have the depth to compete later in the season. Our teams that just are developing talent, like Clemson, for instance, that isn't getting a lot of guys out of the portal. If they find themselves short in a couple of positions where they could have really used to transfer, it would have made a big difference. So it's hard to strike that balance, and that is, I think, what Notre Dame is trying to do in getting Riley Leonard to join their quarterback room, because they have a couple guys that

they really like that are younger, that haven't played played and don't have the experience that Riley Leonard has So if you have the opportunity to to get a player like Riley Leonard who was really exciting in 2022 to watch Kind of like a dual threat guy and then in 2023 got hurt actually during the Notre Dame game the final play of the game And that kind of tanked Duke's chances the rest of the season because he came back and he was never really fully mobile again No, I kept getting re-hurt after trying to call it. He's a gamer. It was a nasty ankle sprain. Yeah, but you guys have, you guys have very recent history in getting a tobacco road quarterback

from the ACC in a smaller school and having success even though the season didn't come out exactly quite how. I'm still going to miss him so much. Notre Dame fans hoped the quarterback position was pretty solidified. And so I understand why you would replicate it. And also all that aside, Riley Leonard is a very good quarterback with pro prospects. But Lucy was telling me before the show that she got misty at his goodbye to Duke. It was so well written.

He put together this like Instagram slideshow that had like it was a long, just love letter to Duke, and it ended with him talking about this pond that he would go fishing on campus and that it originally started, it was just something really small that grew into something beautiful, and he hoped that his time at Duke was the same. And that was so poetic and pretty,

and all of a sudden, why are you leaving? If you love it so much. I feel like this is you just being sad that college football is coming to an end, more than anything. Yeah, I think that's important. If anyone's transferring the point. Please see it's projecting a little bit.

I'm going to Riley. No, but it's very sweet. I mean, I feel like it's not often that you see a statement like that that's so personal and specific. And I love that because it's usually, like, I've enjoyed my time here, but he was like, there's this one pond

and the fish there and it was a little piece of home. And it's usually like, I've enjoyed my time here, but he was like, there's this one pond and the fish there and it was a little piece at home and it's like, well, I need a pond. If you're goodbye to your school features you with a fishing rod in your hand in front of a pond, I know my aim has got no shot. Like I'm just okay, that's probably got Notre Dame written all over it.

So I'm happy for Jess and that she's gonna get it. She likes on campus at Notre Dame. Canals don't hit the same. I have a canal, it doesn't hit the same. No, we got beaches and a lot of other things at Ohio State, message borders, accused. He would love my D3 college up in Maine. He would thrive there.

There was a pond, a billar pond. You weren't allowed to swim in it, but, what? Some people did. This is the shuffle though, now in college football, because now maybe one of Notre Dame's younger quarterbacks will leave, which stinks, but some people did. This is the shuffle though, now in college football, because now maybe one of Notre Dame's younger quarterbacks will leave, which stinks, but it happened last year after Sam Hartman came to Notre Dame, Tyler Buckner

transferred to Alabama. It didn't work out very well for him there, and he didn't play very much. But then another team may get a pretty well-developed quarterback, and that was kind of what Dave Klassen was complaining about last week when he at his press conference after Notre Dame beat Wake Forest. It was a very lopsided game.

I can't even remember the final score, like 35.1 for Notre Dame. Dave Klassen made comments about Sam Hartman being a guy that Wake Forest developed and then Notre Dame played. I will always love you and put him on the video board in the whole, you know, student section and everyone in the stadium cheered Because they love Sam Hartman And they should love Dave Claes and it's like you like he's not yours. He's ours. You just borrowed him Did you know he left you brother earlier in the segment? I categorize your your season as maybe a bit of a disappointment

Probably for year two Marcus Freeman. That's right on track I don't I don't know. It was not. I think the disappointment was that the Ohio State game, they showed of one. The difference between Notre Dame and Ohio State versus Michigan and Ohio State this year was that Michigan's DB caught the interceptable pass that Kyle McCord threw on the final drive. Notre Dame's dropped it. And that was the difference in the game. And like it was very frustrating that they lost that one. And I don't know. I don't think anyone expected Notre Dame to be 12 and 0 at the end of the year but like nine and three is fine given that they are schedules very difficult. I just think you know given the way that

the games played out they probably could have won at least one more of those so that is disappointing. My Amy Hurricane program is in a different place and I kind of like in what's happening right now with this sick Oseason of portal and Cruton to my previous fanhood with the Browns where I'd really come alive for draft time. Like that was my playoffs. Right now this is my bowl season, but I do have kind of like a tree top view take

when it comes to the portal and flipping recruits. Don't get too high and don't get too low because it's weird, especially when you're dealing with kids and you're tagging them, it's just kind of disgusting. But this is a marathon, and sometimes when you lose a kid, I'm not saying this is a case with Justin Scott,

but sometimes when you lose a commit, there is an internal decision. We know that they're coming for this kid, and we're gonna let him go because it actually takes us off the hook from pulling and offers sometimes, and that's not always the case. And I'm not getting ahead in rationalizing and excused for when inevitably Miami

has a couple of hard commits flipped. But that is a huge part of all of this. And I think the discourse around it is fairly ridiculous. And not enough times. Do we reiterate that these are 17 year olds? Think about how often you change your mind now. Think about how often you change your mind when you were 17 years old and 18 years old. I have no grudge over any kid that is presently committed to my school or committed to other

schools deciding to change their mind about something because now when you add NIL to it, this is quite literally the biggest decision of their lives. Well, so the thing about being 17, I do think that there's something wild about the pressure, not the pressure we put on these kids because now I think the fact that there's money makes it feel better. But I think about where I was when I was 17

and I do think that when you're two sets, it was so high. But when you're 17, there's a well of confidence and don't know what you don't know yet. So you're like, oh, I'm on top of the world. So actually, I feel like it's the best time to make a decision like that because you're like, I'm not gonna be wrong.

And then you're like, oh, yeah, maybe I was wrong. I'm gonna go to that. There's a freedom because you don't know what you don't know. When I was 17, they put me on the Gator bowl website and they haven't taken me off, and I wish they would change that. So I get it. I wish I would change.

We'll see when I found out that they're using a picture from, I mean, it's not that long ago, but you think they'd refresh their media package every now and then right? That's just like I was sitting right up there with half the dag slayer bowl. I just want to say I've been getting a lot of responses about that. That is my brother and sister in the picture with me not Emily. We're not going to be mean to my little sister. She's cool.

We like her. Not Emily. Oh, you're so baby. We all look so much better. That's your brother? That's my brother. No, he's so much older now. So much older, he's a call man.

He's seen about maybe 84 Iowa points since that. That's so many points. I'm since that photo. Twice as old as your brother. I think we lost I give my like 32. I'm your brother's mother. What? What?

I'm your mother. Why? One thing that I don don't understand that we're seeing a lot in the portal and maybe you guys will cover on foot girls coming up later this week. But you see a lot of kids one in done it and entering the portal after a frustrating freshman year maybe there were promises made and you never know what happens on the practice field. Maybe there were broken promises but maybe they were also outplayed. And you see kids burning up their one-time penalty free transfer where they don't have to sit out so early on.

A lot of kids are getting bad advice here. That stuff has so much value, especially with the COVID year going away. This upcoming season is the last of it. I don't understand why so many people are doing that. Take your time developing the program and you're that much more valuable later in the process, because if you're openly lamenting something after one year, you're not accounting for,

you're gonna make this other gigantic move. Go to another place. Some of those same frustrations are gonna bubble up, and you're gonna have no way out. You're stuck for three years. Your way out is to hit the books and graduate early. Are these kids, do they have reps at this point? Yes.

I'm thinking this is just like parents like giving advice. It's a lot of books. I forget they even like graduate. I forget that's part of it. I'm like, oh, right, cool, congrats. For most of them, they won't go pro in anything. I know.

Yeah, other than sports, so hold it. Yeah. But I guess the grad transfer is now an incentive to okay, I can do this and get another NIL. I want to see a kid like stay in school and get a PhD and just be eligible forever. Like eight years, ten years. What would they do? It's a lot of greed, dude.

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