The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - Postgame Show: The Tyrese Haliburton Debate (feat. JuJu Gotti)
Episode Date: June 11, 2025JuJu has a HOT take about Tyrese Haliburton in big moments... we also update a wild day of the Polls. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices...
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Before we welcome in Juju here,
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My Boldest Take is if a six game series is a long series,
a five game series can't be a short series.
You can't go straight from short to long.
One of those has to be a medium series. Hey, this go straight from short to long. One of those has to be a medium series.
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you're our QB.
You had one healthy year but was it flukey?
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This is Jed from Kansas City on a pay phone.
I maintain that three sliders that are good is better than one great hamburger.
That's a good take.
Oh, hang on.
Controversial. Hey, it's Justin from a Carphone. First time a good take. Controversial. Hey it's Justin from a
Carphone, first time, long time. My hot take is why is it if you were at a
restaurant with a buddy and he ordered some mozzie sticks you wouldn't think
anything of it. Nice appetizer. But if you sat across from that same guy and he
opened up eight string cheeses you'd think he's a psychopath. I'll hang up and listen.
Are three sliders better than a cheeseburger or does it need to be five? you'd think he's a psychopath. I'll hang up and listen.
Are three sliders better than a cheeseburger or does it need to be five?
I'm team slider.
Now, if you get a couple of good sliders,
all of a sudden it's like, I've got multiple.
But it needs to be more than three though.
It needs to be five, no?
Three is not enough to be better than-
Let's call it four, as long as they're not two, apparently.
And four is a short series.
Five is a medium size series.
Six and seven long series.
series. Five is a medium-sized series. Six and seven long series.
Juju, I'm sorry that that is your welcoming music. Tonight I will remind the audience that we are doing a pregame show to Alley Oop, which is the main show,
which is the postgame on Indiana and OKC. So Juju is gonna be with us on both
shows tonight, but want you to check out alley oop after our show with
marrow argue do welcome to the program
uh... did you have any opinions from our audience on where it is that we landed
uh... a month ago
on our panthers conversation and mike ryan being mad in general at the
panthers coverage of the show again for the third consecutive year, an annual tradition.
I think we overlooked the big fact that happened,
a big thing that happened in the last game.
Bam Adebayo came out to bang the drum.
He was accompanied by the birthday boy, UD.
And I dare I say, he might've did the same job you did.
My boy was fast on the trigger.
Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, let's go.
Boom, boom, boom, boom, bam, calm it down.
But we got the W so we can't complain.
Are you saying that Bam did it as poorly as I did
or about the same, better, worse?
What are you saying?
As equally as poorly as you did.
Whatever you did, the NBA superstar Bama the bio
Did the same thing similar grade for me?
I think you guys were both strong you neither of you were the worst that have done like that superstar. It's not a superstar
All right, you guys did say I did it better than Jaime haquez. Yes. Yes you did and so
Who's gonna bang the drum next you guys talk about this every game?
We were hoping Coco golf, but I'm seeing that she was on first take this morning.
I mean, she could still get here by tomorrow.
I think so, is she driving?
Every time you think that you want,
you wanna know who it is that's banging the drum.
I want that scoop, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Who's it gonna be?
Who do you want it to be?
Not Jack, Jack Nicholas, can't have that.
Oh no.
I want it to be Ariana Grande.
Well, game seven last year was Luongo
So we're kind I assume we're gonna go back to that
Well, if we have a game six because it worked out so well last time game four. I don't know. It's tough
Maybe do you bust out a merino again?
Yeah, I think we should sell it. I think we should auction off Dan's Dan the batards of
Panthers jersey since he we know he's not gonna wear it again the Panthers Panthers win
It's auction that jerseys off to the fan
Okay, maybe we'll do that tonight during our watch party as the pregame to our
I wanted to talk with the group and specifically Dominique about Trey Hendrickson
Okay is among three
players Watt is one of them that they're just skipping minicamp I'm assuming they don't
want to just practice this time of year and I wouldn't blame them but Bengals rookie defensive
end Shamar Stewart has waded into the mess in Cincinnati and Juju he says he's what
percent wrong like how is it that a rookie is getting involved in this nonsense with, with Hendrickson's
contract?
Right.
He said he's at least 1% wrong because he has already signed a contract making himself,
he thought about himself 100% right.
So I wanted to ask Dominique, like what does that type of talk do to a locker room, B-Bruh?
Well, I mean, I think there's always a divide
in an organization and all the teams I played on,
like the coaches and stuff were upstairs
and the players were downstairs.
And so it was clear, like us here are together,
but it feels as though the Bengals,
because of their history, that team, I feel like,
draws closer because their organization
is so uniquely stingy and awkward to their players. It's
not cool to have contract disputes, but it's pretty cool to come into a locker room in
the way that a Shemar Stewart is coming into their locker room in complete support of Trey
Hendrickson. I think that they all recognize, it's all we got. We all we got. I probably
think the coaches feel the same way. It's hard to predict how these things will happen having not been in a locker room, but given the history. And I'm probably think the coaches feel the same way. So it's hard to predict how these things will happen
having not been in locker room.
But given the history of that team,
I think the players are probably pretty close.
What are you guys laughing about back there?
Is it, it can't be about this Bengals talk.
Yeah, it was a laugh, right?
No, we were talking about something else back here.
Okay, great.
I'm glad that that's what you were doing.
The NBA finals, game three tonight, Pacers, OKC.
We have our show and then we have after that again,
because it's gonna be three shows in 24 hours.
We have the post-game show with Juju.
Do you have any thoughts here on what's going on
with the Pacers and Halliburton, Juju?
Bro, I feel like the Pacers have made a grave mistake.
They did the next thing where they changed the street names
around the arena to the players name and their jersey number
I think you can stick a fork in the paces right now. They will not win another game
Take it from me. They will not win another game tonight is a legacy game for Tyrese Halliburton
Because he shrinks in those big moments. You feel me like so he's right now
He shrinks in the big moment.
He shrinks in the big the game because the game is more than that last little second.
You need the team to get you to that moment.
If the team don't get him to that moment, what he does five points here, five shots in the game right now.
He's big shot time to me.
Like, yeah, I'm impressed, but you got to get the ring.
So I think that it's a legacy game.
Can he put together a complete game to for his team to get on his back tonight? That get the ring. So I think that it's a legacy game. Can he put together a complete game
for his team to get on his back tonight?
That's the test.
He's a clutch merchant.
Basically have Tyrese Halliburton as like Derek Fisher,
which is interesting.
But Jude Sam Bennett plays his best at the best moments.
Do you think that there's a chance that the Pacers
did this with the streets to make fun of the Knicks
and New York City?
Like, do you think that they're in on the joke potentially
of like, oh, as we come home,
we have to name all these streets
because that's what the Knicks did.
Well, look, maybe they ain't on it,
but hey, in or not, you're jixing yourself.
You can play with the Knicks if you want to.
You beat them already.
Don't kick a man while he's down.
Them folks can't even find a coach over there.
But your task right now is SGA.
And I'm pretty sure that brother don't give a damn
about West Creek, he finna kick your ass on tonight.
I need a clarification though on Tyrese Halliburton
not being clutch because when he's, he's right.
No, no, he didn't say he wasn't clutch.
He did not say he wasn't clutch.
He says he has to have the game that proves
that he's gonna be playing well in the playoffs.
Not the game that disappears seven points, eight eight shots and then a couple of free-throw
and juju is exactly right and the last game proved that he's right
Halliburton if he doesn't hit that last shot everybody's going what a terrible
game he had he had like 13 points if you're gonna be the star of the team see
Akam is in my opinion a wild you need this is crazy a bigger game than 13
points you guys are making him bam out of bio like he's 13 of 15 and the final in my opinion, you need a bigger game than 13 points.
You guys are making him bam out of bio.
Like he's 13 to 15 and the final two minutes
to either on shots that either are tying or-
That's what we're talking about.
There's 46 other minutes.
You said he shrinks in big moments.
I didn't say shit.
Juju said he shrinks in big moments.
Maybe he doesn't shrink in the biggest of moments.
I can admit, maybe I was wrong in there. I was wrong with't shrink in the biggest of moments. I can admit maybe I was wrong. And I was wrong with that.
Not the biggest moment.
The big one in the NBA finals.
Your team needs you for 48 minutes.
Don't just pop up at 49 or 47 thinking that, oh, it was all good.
It's all forgiven. No, because the next game when we needed you,
you think we're going to carry over the finish line again.
Uh-uh. I'm with you.
Don't worry. 40 minutes are big moments.
Last eight, biggest.
Yeah, no, he's got, no.
He's in hell for most of the minutes
outside of the last two, generally.
And I kind of get it.
It's a little adjacent to like the Steph Curry thing.
I just kind of want to see him be good in the finals.
I understand it's what you want,
but he is a pure point guard.
And I will remind you again,
these things will get difficult to talk about if you keep doing it
about stars and don't allow for the fact OKC does that
to people.
Like you're just not, I get you want more
from Tyrese Halliburton.
He's given you plenty.
I know you want more, but to be a champion,
you're going to have to get over a defense that's
going to do this to him.
That's right.
And fans are totally inclined to say, like, let's see it.
It's cool to say, like, that's what they do to people. That's what the Panthers do to Con That's right. And fans are totally inclined to say like, let's see it. I, I, it's cool to say like, that's what they do to people.
Well, that's what the Panthers do to Connor McDavid.
Everybody wants to see Connor McDavid break through and overcome that.
And it's fair for people to expect that as asinine as it is to maybe call him
Mick overrated.
The reason I don't think it's fair to do this is because what OKC does in terms
of creating turnovers is unprecedented in the history of the league. They will do it to anybody. Halliburton's really good. He's not as good
at offense as they are at defense.
Not only that, you were talking about what Anthony Edwards is doing last series and it's
like, why is he only taking so little shots? Like 10 shots, 14 shots, what's going on?
It's so frustrating to me as analysis.
OKC is the best defense we've ever seen in NBA history.
There's pretty good defense on those game winners, pal.
OK, when he's 13 to 15, there's pretty amazing defense.
And he shows you he can make shots against good defense.
So what I think Juju was saying is,
let's see it for 46 minutes.
All right?
Right.
And exhibit A, game five, the last game
played in Madison Square Garden, he took like five or six shots.
So I mean, hey, I know OKC does that to you,
but the New York Knicks done it to him too.
But he won.
Okay. All right.
Tushay, Tushay.
Siak of series of Tash.
I am with you.
Halliburton should go 13 for 15
on all the shots he takes in all of the minutes.
And then he should be the greatest player ever.
Finally.
That is what SGA does though.
I'm glad we got there.
Why are they playing game three?
Why are you doing a watch along for it? That's just what they do. That is what SGA does though. Why are they playing game three? Why are you
doing a watch along for it? That's just what they do. That's just what they do. He can't find an extra
gear. If I'm being honest about why we're doing a watch along it's because we booked Mero when we
thought the Knicks were going to be in the finals. Well no it's because of Remi Martin. Too honest.
Mori Povich your thoughts there. Are you there?
Were you are you old enough to appreciate the royalty that
joined us today?
Yes, I am.
When I saw him on the screen, I'm like, dang,
that brother does not age.
He looked just as good now as he looked
while he was telling people, you are not the father.
But I don't think we've had a more honest moment since Michael
Doliat, whenever he was. Mike was like today. father, but I don't think we've had a more honest moment since Michael Dole at whenever
he was, Mike was like, today, you're a member of the Chevy chase club, aren't you? And Mario
was like, no, I'm not. He did not want to be a part of that club. So salute the bit
bro and Connie chong.
We did very poorly by poor Maury Povich by putting him in the Chevy Chase club and forcing that
very angry denial. Marvy, yes, I'm sorry, Marvy Povich. What do we have for poll updates, Juju?
Poll updates. And also lastly, I agree with you, Greg, baseball's unwritten rules need to get over
themselves. Like, oh, you can't step on the diamond without a full uniform. Uh, sir, please.
I think one of the first steps to being a better person is being able to laugh at yourself.
Yes.
And baseball never laughs at itself.
Never.
Get out of here.
Yes.
Put it on the poll.
Does baseball ever laugh at itself?
Never.
At LeBataard Show.
What do you have for us on polls, Juju?
Is chicken noodle soup the king of the soups?
65% of the audience says, yes, it is.
Whoa!
Whoa!
Ah!
Whoa!
Ah!
Ah!
Whoa!
That's a win for us matzo ball folks, too.
No, no, how?
What?
It's just a variation.
If anything, it's an upgrade of the chicken.
How was the matzo ball soup coming?
It was delightful. I know it was. Delightful. Told you how was the matzah ball soup? It was delightful
I know it was delightful told you how was the matzah ball itself?
It was the light he didn't my man picked it up with his bare hands
Also with Greg, how do you like the mini fridge is that okay the mini fridge against I don't like minis
Is that okay the mini fridge against they don't like minis
What have you got a bunch of beers in it I'll make an exception One-time exception many bar Yeah! Give me that minibar! Yeah! Yeah! One time exception!
Minibar!
The poll from yesterday is, Hallelujah, an awesome middle name.
It's a great name.
51% of the audience says, No, it is not.
What?
Damn!
A lot of haters.
Nobody like the gorilla, huh?
Damn. Wrong audience.
Yeah, yeah.
Wrong America.
Would you eat split pea soup cold?
88% of the audience says no, they will not.
See, Greg, I think I've got this right.
People are with me on soup needs to be warm.
Not hot?
Yeah.
Just warm.
Not cold.
Teppid, okay, or no? Not split pea soup. That teppid is gross. It's. Just warm. Not cold. Teppid, okay or no?
Not split pea soup.
That teppid is gross.
It's gotta be warm.
Teppid's no good.
Do you hate your bed?
81% of the audience says no they don't.
I can't believe 19% do.
I've never heard somebody say that about their bed.
I thought that conversation with Samson was shocking.
Yeah.
What kind of fear is that?
You approach your bed scared.
He doesn't have fear, Dan.
He doesn't have fear.
No, no, I want you to examine for a second
the lack of self-awareness in this.
You approach your bed scared.
You sleep fearing that if you sleep,
you're gonna wake up screaming.
If you don't sleep, you go to the doorman downstairs,
and then you get on national broadcast and say you're gonna wake up screaming. If you don't sleep, you go to the doorman downstairs and then you get on national broadcast
and say you're fearless.
That happened today.
And the zippers.
Cut that out.
That dream he had was ass.
Like, oh, I dreamed that it was you and Stu Goss.
I could see y'all faces,
but everybody else's faces was blurry.
I need to text Dan about this.
That dream out of my life.
They get it out of my life.
But can you call yourself a fearless person
if you're afraid of people putting their hand
in your candy bag?
84% of the audience says, no, you can't.
Tate-as?
And the last poll is a chapped ass,
the best ass to tell someone to kiss.
74% of the audience says, yes it is.
And those are your polls.
Juju, thank you again.
Join us tonight, 8 p.m. on YouTube,
broadcasting what should have been the Knicks and OKC
watch Lou Dort and the strangling defense of OKC make Juju and others say
that Halliburton is a choking choker who does not do big things in big moments
I hope that it escalates tonight to Mike telling someone to kiss his ass
kiss my ass Mike was crossing a line
it's very easy for Brad it's eye level
to tomorrow