The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - PTFO - Share & Jeopardy! & Tell with Mina Kimes and Dan Le Batard

Episode Date: April 18, 2025

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We're not gonna do that. Hi, Mina. Hello. Hi. The good news is that you missed Dan's preamble. The bad news is that I think... I mean, he's giving double thumbs up. The bad news is that I think you may have overprepared for this show because I just

went through the game tape of Mina on Jeopardy. I didn't watch it. Wait a minute. You guys didn't tell me anything. I'm walking into a bit of a trap here. I've watched you guys with great joy, bravely go on celebrity game shows

and throw your celebrity into the air to have fun and test your wits against people famously. But Celebrity Jeopardy is a little easier than the other Jeopardy's. Are we doing just narcissism on examining how did we do Let's Talk About Ourselves? We love doing the game shows. Pablo, it's your show.

You're the one who wants to talk about this. As always, and for real, what Mina is saying is a true fact, Dan. She has not watched it. She told me that she was physically unable to bring herself to watch it. And so the reason we're doing it on the show like this is because we're going to make her watch it. Pablo obviously loves making content out of our lives.

You both do. It's something you clearly have in common. What I'm going to do is take us on a ride. A ride. A ride into a studio, a hallowed studio. And on the stage, Dan is an actor from the Marvel Cinematic Universe named Sean Gunn, known as the Guardian of the Galaxy. A dude who hosts, in my opinion, you know,

a kind of odious podcast all All In, named David Friedberg, and our good friend, Mina Kimes. Why was Mina shaking her head at All In? I don't know what happened there. A kind of odious podcast? Oh no, I was nodding in agreement. I'm also not a fan. As far as celebrity goes on Jeopardy,

the celebrities are not a high end of celebrities. Mina might be the most famous one here. Hold on a second. Guardians of the Galaxy is a wonderful franchise. Great writing, great acting. Not a lot of famous people coming out of the Guardians of the Galaxy universe from behind the scenes, from small characters.

The other thing that's important to note is we're in the semis now, right? So a lot of the real, the most celebrity of the celebrities have been called at this point. Okay, see, all right. So now we're just, now let's say what this is. This is the bottom feeder at the last rung of cheap television where we go get people

who call them celebrities, and Mina's a celebrity. But I don't know if those other two people are. Mina, as much as you reject that title, what you are, objectively, is somebody who had prepared. You said on air that you may have scrolled some subreddits. Clearly, you talked to our friend, Katie Nolan, with whom we've done an episode along these lines with her on this program.

You have and had, I think, for those not familiar with her Celebrity Family family few performance, a real competitive side. Very competitive, yeah. Very competitive. This is why I can't bring myself to watch this episode of Jeopardy. Without watching it, I know that how competitive I was probably started manifesting itself on the stage at some point in the final third of the episode when I was about to crush my buzzer in my bare hands, like a lemon, just infuriating.

I could not buzz in to save my life. The issue, Dan, is that it didn't emerge in the final third. You know, times versus the buzzer. It emerged in the first third. Utah's revamped state flag features a beehive. Once favored by Brigham Young is an emblem of this religion. Dave. What is Mormonism?

Yes. 24601. Just watch. Just watch. Nina Holder-Buzzer. Presumably French bread in this blockbuster. Sean. What is Les Miserables?

Right. A thousand years. It's how long the hills have been alive with songs they have sung. Whatever that means. In this musical, Dave. What is the sound of this? It means holding her buzzer above the podium

so everybody can see this. And it's- That's not why I was doing this. Okay, I have so much here. Where can I start? I'd like to know first of all, how much soul ravaging you do with unforgiveness when you're being competitive and you're losing. Like, how mean are you to yourself?

Well, first of all, I was winning. We were showing questions where I couldn't buzz in, but I was very frustrated, obviously. Because here's the thing. Okay, so I'll just get right into it. The thing about Celebrity Jeopardy is, as you you have seen if you're watching this or if you watched it The questions are easy So by the time you get to the second round most of the contestants know the answers to all of the questions and it becomes A buzzing contest right and the thing about the buzzer Is you have a window to buzz in if you buzz in you get locked out. And because I don't have good hand eye, clearly, I don't play video games, that might have been good practice for this,

I just kept getting locked out and then losing my sh**. So it becomes a lot about like quick twitch. Sorry, I'm in draft world. Mina is so clearly obviously in draft mode right now. Oh my god. It's really a hand eye. And the other guys, again, to their defense, because I think they knew most of the answers, certainly the guy Gunn next to me did, he was getting frustrated because he couldn't buzz in in the first round.

So it's just, it becomes like a buzzing contest. It's very frustrating. I'm assuming. Pablo, I'm assuming. I don't know, but based on your team of reporters and how you like to make fun of me, I'm assuming that I'm about to make an admission here that I've never made before, a secret that I've kept for 30 years,

because you have in your video compartment my only game show appearance ever, where I can admit now, only all of these years later, that I do not have the benefit of actually the credibility that Mina does. I actually believe her buzzer was not quick enough and she knew the answers to all those questions. The thing I'm about to admit.

Well, on Boardwalk in Baseball with Chris Berman, when I got a single answer right and we got our ass kicked by Oklahoma, the answer was Ford and I only got it right. My brother made fun of me till his death bed because there was 10 seconds of silence and I finally got to be faster than other people. It's also the only thing I knew. I was pretending that the buzzer wasn't working because I was consistently coming in late

after people had an answer I did not have because I was so insecure about the fact that I wasn't getting anything right. Oh, my God. That's right. I'm sorry to admit it. So we played this video of Dan in this thing in what appears to be the 1950s before. Dan has a particular like tented hand. But it wasn't the buzzer. I was pretending I was getting my ass kicked and I was faking it. I was making a hamstring injury. Mina, Mina, Mina it explains something which is that when you do watch it you see how late Dan is. Now that I know that he's tanking. It's choking. It changes so much. Just choking. Not even choking.

Choking would be if I knew the answers. The questions were too hard. Mina the question. Mina goes on Celebrity Jeopardy. Everybody knows the answers. That's disappointing. Well, hold on. Look, it's... I would argue that it's impressive that Mina goes on runs like this.

Discover this moon of Saturn or an NFL player from Tennessee. Mina. What is a Titan? Can to Titan. H-O-T-T-O-G-O. You can take me hot to go. Mina.

Who is Chappell Rhone. Yes, Chappell Rhone. Did you see that gymnast, Steven Netarazek in the Olympics? Can to Titan. H-O-T-T-O-G-O, you can take me hot to go. Mina. Who is Chappell Rhone. Yes, Chappell Rhone. Did you see that gymnast, Steven Netta Rosick, in the Olympics? He only does one exercise. I can't remember what it's called. Mina. What is pommel horse?

Right. A boy in Maine sold Greenwood's Champion Ear Protectors after patenting this type of winter headgear in 1877. Mina. What are earmuffs? That's right. He's the inventor of the earmuffs. Okay, I forgot that the first question in that montage was about what team is in Tennessee. That maybe wasn't as impressive. Well, no, but

I, but you know what, I want to look at her face again after that because I did think she found it funny how easy that question was, but you seemed happier than with the other questions and the answers that you were getting right. The emotion you're trying to identify is actually relief because I was like, thank God I didn't miss the football question. Because that was my worst nightmare going on this show is that there would be a football category

and that I would lose the category, thus giving ammunition to my haters for decades. Good to play that game with great, great fear. Yes, Mina Kimes, that's right. Mina Kimes, who has done now 70 mock drafts ammunition to my haters for decades. Good to play that game with great, great fear. Yes. Mina Kimes, that's right. Mina Kimes, who's done now 70 mock drafts and wants to get every one of the picks right because she's competitive, is afraid that the internet is going to mock her because

a Jeopardy question she gets wrong about the Titans. If you're to talk about the most essential skill for Mina as a Jeopardy draft prospect The thing that I think is so important that becomes very clear in this episode in the semi-final is the daily double Oh, and so this is the part that I don't want to watch. This is the thing that haunted me I can't even play myself to watch. We gotta we gotta walk through it There's a build here because Mina at this point in the story has $9,700. That's great. She's in control But this thing which was a strength in Mina's first celebrity Jeopardy win, which got her to the semi-final Becomes very relevant thinking about the Roman Empire for 600

Answer Daily Double. What do you want to wager? 700 just 700 Well, what do you want to wager? Uh, 700. Just 700, alright. 10,400 if you're right in thinking about the Roman Empire. Oh, this is so bad. Okay, so I burned our lasagna. At least I'm not this fifth Roman emperor who legend says fiddled while Rome burned. Who is Nero?

It was Nero, yes. Could have been a little more there, Vena. I know, I know. I'm such a coward. I know. Keep it in mind for next time. Oh, no. Keep it in mind for next time. Select. Oh, keep it in mind for next time is a very impressive prophecy from Ken Jennings. He was disappointed in me. I could feel it. I could feel it.

I think, can I say something? I think Ken wanted me to win. What? That's scandalous. that's scandalous. He can't be biased? That's unbelievable. What claim are you making? We're finding out stuff.

We're finding out stuff here, Dan. We had a personal connection a little bit. He's from the Seattle. He's a big Seattle sports fan. We had like bonded a little bit about that. He's a fan of Mina's. He's an actual fan of Mina's in a real way. No, not really, but.

Because she was the only celebrity on that show who's not Ken Jennings. Well, he's great. I could feel his disappointment in my cowardly, bullsh** Daily Double strategy, and I was disappointed. You could see it. I mean, that's just the disgust. As soon as she knew the answer, she was bummed. Let's cover the math of this though, because can we look at it again? Did you instantaneously realize that you were a coward? Like that? Yes, yeah, you could literally see me

when the question comes up be like, you idiot. So wait, so hold on, hold on, let me go back a second. I am the coach who kicks the field goal instead of going for it. I am, I mean, my whole career is devoted to calling these coaches out on cowardly game management. And then when I was in that situation, I panicked. Like, a word I can't say. [♪ Royale. This smooth, flavorful cognac is

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Please drink responsibly. All right, so can you answer this question for me though? You are rooting as a competitive person to get the Daily Double, correct? Yes, you want, I was hunting, we were all, so this is another thing. In the first game, I was hunting for them. In the second game, we all were.

So, you know, everybody's kind of playing in a different way. So you're not scared of it in any way, but why? No, you want the Daily Double. So, but why did you get scared when you got the Daily Double? Because I'm a loser! I don't know. But what happened?

I'm asking you, take me through the thinking process of, so you're leading and you're afraid that you're gonna make a bet that does such bad math that you're so nervous. Yes, I was nervous I was gonna blow my lead. I was like, I'm in control of this shit. I've been dominating the category. It just doesn't matter what happens here.

So you're lacking faith in yourself. The reason you become a coward is because despite the fact that you're crushing this, you know the answers. They're easy questions. At the moment of truth, you're saying, I will not bet this much money on the belief that I can do math correctly right now. Not about the belief that I can do math correctly,

just like the fear, like what if this is the one question I don't know and I bet like four thousand dollars and suddenly I no longer have a bit why would you bet on yourself? because it's Risk aversion. It's like oh, I it was a more even more so than I think the fear of losing it It was overconfidence in my ability to keep buzzing in and dominating, right? Which again, to go back to the NFL, that is like how dumb coaches think. Like, oh, we're gonna keep, we're gonna get another chance to drive the field again. You never know, right? And it's just, it was like idiotic.

I don't know. That was, Pablo, by the way, the one thing I didn't want to rewatch because the buzzer thing is frustrating, but like I felt like that was a little bit out of my control. That was in my control and I f***ed up. This is a hell of a press conference, a post-game press conference that Mina is giving. Who among the NFL coaches that you wished you were,

who's the guy you think of where you're like, I should have channeled more of? Dan Campbell. Because I would wager that Sean Gunn, the best character this character actor has played, was the role of Dan Campbell in this context. Answer. Daily Double. I don't want to watch this.

Let's bet 5,000. Oh, no. She loses. You'll be in the lead by $200, if you're right, in character or literary characters. We knew a different subject. I'm tired of this. Hey, Thebes. I was expelled from Pency Prep, you bunch of ponies. Meet me at the carousel and wear galoshes. Holden.

The questions are so easy! Everyone knows that! Why didn't... Like... F*** me. What we just saw was what Mina's football nightmare looks like in Jeopardy. So Sean Gunn is going Dan Campbell. And so Mina does get the ball back and yes, there's another run downfield, by the way, just in fairness. I'm so tired of this.

Advanced Animalia for $1,200. Answer! Daily Double. I will do... $2,000. Okay, you'll take the lead back by $400, but you have to be right in Advanced Animalia. Scarabia de Sacre. That's a much more appealing designation than its stinkier name. Dung this.

What is a beetle? Dung beetle. Yeah, you're back on top. The face of someone who knows she's an idiot. But you're back on top. She's back on top, Dan. This is unfortunately a seesaw. We're learning.

It's a seesaw between her and Sean. This is wildly entertaining. Where do we end here because this has been a rollercoaster. Well, the seesaw, right, takes us through triple jeopardy. And we do see, for those not watching on YouTube, we do see a bit more of the buzzer here. Krakuta Krakuta, love it two times. Such a better name for the African scavenger,

commonly known as the spotted this. Sean. What is hyena? Good for 1500. Let's go to rhyme time 300. It's a cucumber preserved in brine that has an irritating tendency to change its mind. Sean.

What is a fickle pickle? Yeah. Losing my sh**. Animalia 300. Orsinus orca. Was that so hard? And yet people still insist on calling it a killer this. Sean.

What is a whale? I was convinced my thing was broken at that point. I'm f**king losing it. The questions are so easy. The scores. The scores. The scores, Dan scores, the scores, Dan. Sean Gunn, 20,500. Mina Kimes, a very respectable 16,400.

Dave Friedberg, a distant third, $8,400. Not really a factor is where we are at this point in the story. I can't believe how human this is, Mina. You're sitting here savaging yourself about how idiotic this is. And who doesn't understand, even though you're crushing it, a lack of confidence in yourself,

even after all of these easy questions, because you really, because- Still on the day, about the day the devil is talking. Yeah, well, I'm talking, what I'm talking about is the pressure of the moment making you make smaller bets when the biggest bets would have been on yourself. And it's just so interesting

to not have the confidence in that moment. Because see, I think I would be afraid to do all of this in front of people, vulnerably allowing them to examine whether or not you're quote unquote smart enough or fast enough by testing your intelligence on television. I don't think I'd wanna do that. It doesn't seem like it would be,

it seemed like it would be pressurized even for charity. So to get in that situation, be plagued by it, however nervous you were before it, if you were indeed nervous, get to the moment, be crushing it, and then not have confidence when you have a moment to slow down and think.

It wasn't like a lack of confidence. I'll be straight up with you guys. I don't watch Jeopardy. I'm not a Jeopardy person. So I did a little bit of research into betting strategy, which comes up at the end. I did not ask anyone about daily doubles. And I do think if I had asked someone, a Jeopardy person, they would have explained to me you should bet a lot. So

it was actually less like oh I'm so afraid to get this wrong although that's a little bit of it and I think like I just didn't prepare for it at all. Like I didn't think through hey this is your opportunity, these questions are easy, you know all of them, establish a lead. My brain like hadn't even thought through Daily Dou doubles at all I've never heard of you. You tell me like try to find them. I didn't think about like, okay What do I do if I get these and I do believe if I had somebody had told me hey You should bet a lot. I probably would have bet a lot

So it was really like a lack of preparation on my Pablo, but when you tell me this is the part that I'm finding Go ahead and tell me all the times that Mina has been caught on national television Where her credibility might be on the line or her intelligence and there's a lack of preparation What I can't get over is just that Mina for those not watching is in full NFL coach behind a mic podium posture just like Just really disappointed in herself. The strategy around the Daily Doubles, hunting them but not maximizing them. Yeah.

I've been told to hunt them. Yeah. Yeah. So the thing about Bita that I so appreciate is that she hates nothing, few things more, I would dare say, than not having the right strategy. I was so pissed walking out of there because I felt like I just strategically didn't prepare for the right things and I didn't think through it and I was really mad at myself.

That is choking though, right? So wait, hold on, so let's examine this for a second and I don't want this to be with- Okay, well hold on, Dan's now in the audience of reporters asking questions of the coach. I like this dynamic. Yes, well because I don't want this to be withering criticism, but it seems to me

that this would be textbook definition choking. Yes, coach? I don't think I dominated to the point where it's textbook choking. Like I don't, like I couldn't, I didn't buzz in. Like that's not that the guy had a lead. You know, I choked on the Daily Doubles and I think that's where, that's why that was the hardest

for me to watch because that was my fault. But like I couldn't buzz in. Like I knew pretty much every answer and I just couldn't buzz in. And that's not choking. That's just nothing is good at it. The reason I say it is choking is because combination of panic and lack of strategy

that in a moment makes you go, ah, because all of a sudden you're scared. Yeah, I'm saying in those moments, but not over like the, I don't think I choked away the entire game is all I'm saying. I think I choked on the Daily Duel. Coach, you lost.

Yeah, skip. Sometimes you lose because you didn't prepare well enough. That's not choking. Choking is when you're the overwhelming favorite. You should absolutely win. You should be dominating, and you f*** it all up. All right.

So I did make a mistake in big moments. Coach, why wasn't your team prepared, Coach? That's your job, too. That's the biggest question. I actually wish I had done more prep into the actual gameplay. I should have f***ing watched Jeopardy. Your team was unprepared. Hold on, hold on.

You didn't watch any game tape. What Coach Kimes is... I watched a little bit. I watched like a Katie Semi... Like I watched an episode of Celebrity Jeopardy just to understand because it's a little different. But I didn't like the... What Coach Kimes... Ugh.

What she's... No, I'm just pointing something out. What Coach Kimes is saying is something that I thought I would never hear, which is that she didn't grind enough. It's just crazy to me. I can't... Pablo knew. Look, I will tell... I know, Dan. I have a f***ing full-time job. I was during the middle of the football season and I had a one-year-old baby. I only had so much time to get ready for this game show.

I'm sorry. It's not even football season. This is the maddest I've ever been. It's not even football season. Oh, by the way, we taped these back. I was the only person who had to go back to back. I taped that right after my first episode. So I'm like freaking exhausted.

That sounds like a competitive disadvantage if you want to know. That sounds like a bunch of excuses, coach. I didn't prepare. I didn't watch game tape. I didn't panic. I have a one year old. This is the Steelers saying we had to play three games in 11 days. The thing I regretted was not researching dating doubles.

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Pablo. And I don't know whether she's mad at you or me or herself. I don't even know what those rankings would be. Well, I was mad at myself, but I've transitioned away from being bad at myself to being annoyed by this line of questioning. To being annoyed by Dan Bayless. It's been 30 minutes, by the way. I didn't realize we would spend 30 minutes without actually showing you Final Shepard. Film festivals is the category. Here's the clue, players. So this is what really pissed me off.

Called the premier movie industry event for the Balkans, this festival began 30 years ago while the city was under siege. I know about the Balkans. I know what cities are in there. I know what cities were wred by conflict 30 years ago. I absolutely could have deduced this if I had just used simple context clues and geography. But at this point I was like, I'm going to lose. This is over. I was so flustered by Triple Jeopardy that I just panic picked.

And I was so worried about getting the betting strategy wrong, which was actually kind of the one thing I did prepare for, and I did get it right. I thought I got it wrong at the moment, but later on I realized I got it right. This part, the time pressure, is the scariest part of this entire game show. You only have so much time, you gotta get the answer, you gotta write it down,

you will see in the answers to come, the writing, people are panicking. Pablo, Pablo, this is why your family feud moment is, I mean, it's a game show moment from the dreams to have reached through that time period on Family Feud and not panicked and gave those answers. Like, you had the opposite of- The most obvious answers in the world.

Okay, but wait a minute. We're really gonna compare this? Under time pressure though, look, you can choke and then you start remembering you're choking, you're thinking you're choking, now you're nine seconds in and you haven't answered shit. Name a coin you throw into a fountain to make a wish. You said, the penny.

Yes. Survey said. Oh my God. Why? Oh my God. Why? Yes, Pablo correctly guessed penny as the coin that people throw into a fountain. Really, truly. Do your job. This is my press conference.

Do your job. Anyways, yeah, so I was like super flustered. At home I'm watching this, I'm screaming, like what the fuck are you doing? Like, you know, but I was, but I did do the betting right. And that was actually some comfort because I was, I actually talked to folks about this, yeah. Well, okay, so I want to reanalyze

your immediate instantaneous analysis, which you hear as Final Jeopardy continues. I did my math wrong. Oh my heart hurts for her right here. Oh my gosh. How much is it? Oh no. No, I didn't do the math wrong.

Oh no. Oh no. No, I did it right. No, no, I did the math right. I did the math right. We'll talk about this. Hold on. We're going to watch this. So in the moment I thought I didn't do it right. You said to right. I did the math right. Well, we'll talk about this

What did you wager 12,000 Oh my God! Do you believe in miracles? The all-in guy. The all-in odious podcast guy. What a heartwarming story. The show that said it's okay if you miss social security payments was like, this guy should be rewarded with payment. Okay, now I'm so glad. See, this actually is a great window into my mind here.

Because watching it, yes, at the moment I was devastated and I'm so mad at myself for not, because I know geography, I know history, I was just like, my brain was whatever. But my process was correct there. So I'm actually, like I feel a lot better watching how it played out Pablo because I did bet the exact right amount. Which was something that I looked into. So explain what happened. So in the moment you said you messed up the math. So this was something, like I prepared for this and didn't talk to anyone about Daily Doubles. You know Hayes Davenport? He is a guy who went to school in Pablo who I'm friends with.

Co-host of Hollywood Handbook, another podcast. Super funny dude. Has been on Jeopardy. So I asked him for advice, and this was the one piece of advice he gave me. If you're in second place, and you're in striking distance, meaning you can jump first, only bet enough so that third place can't jump you.

So if third place can't jump you at all, you bet $0. That dude had just enough money to jump me, right? Which sucks. But the reason you do that is because you're not going to win unless first place is wrong. So you don't have to, and first place is going to bet enough to not get jumped. So all you have to do is worry about third place. And that's what I did with my betting strategy. A thousand dollars was enough to beat third place, right?

If he had, I've gotten it, he didn't get it right. Right, right, right. In the moment I was like, wait, did I do this wrong? I was actually more upset with the, but I did it right. Because if third place had been wrong, I would have won if we had all been wrong because first place had to worry about me. Did that make sense? It's a little bit complicated.

It's convoluted, but I will tell you that all of that explanation that was Riveting television the fact that after all of that happens. No. No, wait a minute. Wait a minute Look, this is magic. What happened here is magic. Is this reporter Dan or friend Dan? Who are we hearing? I'm just we're not hearing a lot of friend Dan today. This is entertained wildly by watching you suffer but say, yeah, I'm embarrassed, but my process was good, but also, I think you referred to that dude,

I don't know what his name is, do you know what his name is? David Friedberg. That dude had one of the most stunning comebacks I've ever seen in sports because I did not see him coming at all in this. That I was never thinking about him and only because you did what happened at the end there,

I now have, he has the moment of a lifetime. That guy has the opposite of your story because he had no business winning that. Well, he's like an extremely wealthy tech entrepreneur. So, you know, I think he's really the underdog of a lifetime here. But yeah, he was like stunned afterwards. It was the moment you could see he was stunned.

Like he walked out and his family was like, what just happened? And Sean Gunn, I got to find Sean. We got to hear a drink. We were both just like, screw this. I hate this show. No, we love it. But like, we were just like devastated.

It was a great television moment. It really was. And I didn't watch the entire, I didn't watch the episode, obviously. I've only seen this, but I have to think it was probably one of the more entertaining finishes. similar to poppies finish right where it's like dramatic come from behind Those are the moments that make And Katie's like how have you three of you ended up? It's been pretty remarkable

How? It was just a series of dramatic finishes. Katie had her own like overtime time. Oh yeah, I remember, because she didn't bet. Yeah, right, right, yeah. The three of you have had amazing game show experiences. Like I imagine a lot of people go on game shows and just finish in second place. Or fourth place, or whatever. Or get to the Price is Right stage and never get on it.

Yeah, I'm actually glad, Pablo, to mercifully wrap wrap this up that you made me watch that in there because like it was it was a little bit validating to feel like I Didn't screw the entire thing up. So You know, I would love another shot at it. I'm still upset with how I handled the Daily Dohls in particular And losing my cool a little bit with the buzzer But at least at the end, I did the math right. That's really all that matters. Pablo, do you marvel at the fact that a head coach doesn't leave losing with, well, I got the process right.

Like a head coach leaves the losing with, oh my God, like I'm just crushed. No, Mina gave the answer that is most reasonable to any rational observer and most destroyable by any back page in a major metropolitan area in which she explains that the process was right, but the result was wrong. And I think that the most honest appraisal, honestly, wasn't even technically, Dan, in the course of this game, it was during the credits. And you don't have to kick yourself, I think,

because the way it worked out with Dave being the only one who knew final. Listen, yeah, I would have been more mad if I had done the math wrong, and once that was, I was like, all right, you know, because that would have just been embarrassing. Well, you made small wagers on who you ended up knowing, on Nero, and then...

Scary money don't make money. I don't remember saying that at all. Look, you can only learn from our failures and also try to identify the things we actually did do right in them so we can build off of it. That is my mindset. Oh my God. That's textbook definition for learning, but can we also just go back there for a second and just check out Mina's body language?

I know. As soon as you ended up knowing on Nero and then. Scare money don't make money. How weirdly sassy was that? I was. So sassy. I don't remember it at all. The sassiest quoting of a believe either Billy Napier,

current board gators, football coach, or young Jeezy. I don't know exactly who originated that, but Mina happened to black out and quote one of them. I'm not sure. Can I examine this for just a moment? Because Mina, I'm going to say that right before that, when you're saying at least I didn't get the math wrong, and you're leaning on the console,

whatever is pulsating inside of you right there is a combination of fear and bravado and relief. Because if I could look at it again, just tell me, the pose of you trying to lean in before you black out and go scared money, don't make money. Dude, I was exhausted. I had been at that set for hours at that point. Like I said, this was my second taping.

I was so drained. I had had like three pieces of salami for lunch. That pose is a woman who was just ready to go. It was so late at night, by the way. I was so ready to go to bed. I really think, though covering the NFL, I swear to God this is gonna sound like torture, but it has like better prepared me

to deal with failures in my life. Like the things I'm saying to you, oh, like you gotta figure out what you did well so you can build off of that. You know, every rep, you got to just like have a cornerback mentality and reset and think about and like, then also be honest about yourself when you fail and you got to focus on process. I don't think I would have said any of that stuff when I was younger and I was like equally competitive and allergic to failure. So you know what? Growth. I look at this and I see growth. I mean how long ago did you tape that? In October. It took me about three months

to get over. So I'm really reliving a lot of trauma here. And it took you... Those growth... It explains what you're like to do podcasts with November, December, and January. Yeah. That explains some. Yeah, that's mad. Yeah. Um, not as long ago though, not as long ago as uh the aforementioned prospect that we are here to once again evaluate. You thought it was settled in the Orange Bowl, Bologna. We have with us here on our very stage here in Orlando, the hurricanes of Miami and Florida. of Miami and Florida. So scared. So cute. Dan's already just all over that bus. This American drove one mile in under 40 seconds.

That was an average speed of 91 miles an hour. Name that American auto manufacturer. Miami. Ford. Henry Ford, that is correct. They were slow there. I'm Dan Levitard. I'm a 19 year old sophomore majoring in news editorial journalism and politics. I'm from Miramar, Florida.

All right, hurricanes. And I'm just walking here. Wait, you're 19 in this class? 1972 Summer Olympic games took place in what city? Oklahoma camp. Munich. Munich is right. Which Boston Red Sox pitcher? Oh, here's the buzzer technique. In 1987. Here's Dan Munich. Munich is right. Which Boston Red Sox pitcher...

Oh, here's the buzzer technique. Here's Dan's. Miami, Todd. Look at Dan. Roger Clements. Jester. And that wraps up our 102nd round. And Oklahoma is the champion over Miami...

Am I the only one who sees AJ Soprano looking at a young Dan there? Not only do I see AJ Soprano, I hear AJ Soprano. Can we listen to Dan again, introduce himself? Play him again. That hair. I'm Dan Levitard, I'm a 19-year-old sophomore majoring in news editorial journalism and politics. I'm from Miramar, Florida. So scary.

Scared, just scared. Just scared. Actually adorable. Just scared. I'm just scared. I would say though that you- Sweet, sweet Cuban Jonah Hill. Mina not being scared of all that and only getting, the result of learning and process is a reason to do it

because I'm stunned that you're not even more mortified. Just haven't recovered from it, don't wanna be anywhere around it, don't wanna do this with us. It's been a process getting over it, honestly. Let's just say the words, "'You raised $50,000 for charity, focus on what matters,' were said to me a lot in this house by my husband over the next seven days after that.

It's so right. And by the way, the charity, I just, for anyone who's watching and has any interest, because I did talk about it briefly, it's called the Siela Neighborhood Homeless Coalition here in Los Angeles. They do some of the most amazing work of any nonprofit I've ever witnessed. So Hayes, who we talked about, was really involved in them as well early on. So if you guys are looking to donate,

go to celanhc.org. I have the links in all my socials. You guys do realize that we could actually just for charity say, what's the most you'd pay to see one of us most embarrassed on national television? Like if we were selling that, Mina, and I told you before it started,

it's gonna be embarrassing to you, but you will raise how much money for it. What's the price gotta be for that embarrassment? I mean, that was the most embarrassing thing, I think. I guess if I had missed a football question, that would have been more embarrassing. So what would be the, like, how would we talk you in from that one?

Like if you missed a football question and said, but you raised this much for charity, Mina, and you'd be like, okay, that's okay. I mean, $50,000 is pretty, especially like, kind of, when I got to visit them and hear about what the money was gonna do, it made me feel a lot better about this. You're getting me at the right time.

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if you knew how to do a daily double. I mean, maybe that would, you know. Let me back on Celebrity Jeopardy, let me back on. She wants a second chance, she wants a rematch. Give me another chance, I'll do better. Come on Celebrity Jeopardy, she's a rematch. I'll be another chance, I'll do better. Come on, celebrity Jeopardy. She's a great champion and your biggest celebrity. And that dude, I don't know, I still don't know,

I can't remember his name, the dude who had the miraculous comeback, do you remember his name? Because I feel like Mina, Mina overlooked him too. He snuck past her because she wasn't prepared. Yeah, he knew the film festival, so he was like, oh, my wife and I had been to this film festival. I was like, so mad about it. Guys, wait, shocking news.

Are you ready? Are you seated? Crazy news just broke. What happened? Aaron Rodgers has not made a decision and says he doesn't owe it to anyone to move on their timeline. Speaking of a guy who watched way more Jeopardy than Mina,

Aaron Rodgers. That would be the most embarrassing thing if I lost to him in some- Imagine- okay, yes, imagine if instead of Ken Jennings hosting that episode, it was f***ing Aaron Rodgers, which almost happened. Very close to happen. What I found out today actually- What an alternate timeline of like the universe. What I found out today is how much I long for that alternate timeline exclusively and

specifically for the ability to have done the episode we just did with each other, but with Aaron Rodgers in the role of Ken Jennings. I too long for that alternate timeline because it would mean that right after this ends I don't have to go on NFL Live and talk about Aaron Rodgers saying he hasn't made up his mind yet, which I'm gonna have to do for the 45th time in the last two years. I don't, Pablo, I don't believe there's any subject matter

of any kind that I can put in front of Mina that she's more tired of than talking about Aaron Rodgers. There's nothing that she's just, she will not bite on it ever saying anything other than, I don't care, I'm tired of it. I think that it is unique, because people are always like, oh, it's political or whatever.

I think it's unique to my job because I have to do it so much. Dan, do you have an equivalent of that in your guys' lives? Like a thing where you're just like, this is, I'm compelled so often to address this exact thing. Must I do this? You might even say that these Aaron Rodgers segments, they're her own personal daily double. That doesn't even make sense.

I feel like it does. It just doesn't make sense. I'm sorry. Logically, that doesn't actually make sense. That's a terrible analogy. Cut. Pablo Torre Finds Out is produced by Walter Averoma, Ryan Cortez, Sam Daywig, Juan Galindo, Patrick Kim, Nealey Lohman, Rob McCray, Rachel Miller Howard, Carl Scott, Matt Sullivan,

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