The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The 2025 Football America! Mid-season Awards Show with Mike Ryan Ruiz and Ten Day Tony

Episode Date: November 7, 2025

Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the 2025 Football America! Mid-season Awards. We're presenting awards to: 1. Guy who constantly gets mentioned as an MVP candidate but has zero chance of winning. 2a. Team currently in playoff position but won’t be by season’s end. 2b. Team currently not in playoff position but will be by season’s end. 3. Team you’d least want to be rooting for (if you’re a Jets fan, you could theoretically be excited by the trades). 4. Best single getup of the season so far. 5. Best uniform matchup. 6. the most handsome Football America! Mike Ryan Ruiz and Ten Day Tony join to make their picks with Dave Dameshek and the gang on this episode of Football America! (Photo by Paul Sancya/AP) Timestamps: (00:00) The 2025 Football America! Mid-season Awards Show (38:44) Pick Six - Week 10 (41:50) Games to Watch and Games to Pick- Week 10 AUDIO Football America! is available wherever you listen to podcasts. Leave us a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/football-america/id1831757512 Follow us: Dave Dameshek: https://x.com/dameshek Mike Ryan Ruiz: https://x.com/MichaelRyanRuiz Ten Day Tony: https://x.com/10DayTony Host: Dave Dameshek Guests: Mike Ryan Ruiz, Ten Day Tony Team: Gino Fuentes, Mike Fuentes Director: Danny Benitez Senior Producers: Gino Fuentes, Mike Fuentes Executive Producer: Bradley Campbell Arizona Cardinals, Atlanta Falcons, Baltimore Ravens, Buffalo Bills, Carolina Panthers, Chicago Bears, Cincinnati Bengals, Cleveland Browns, Dallas Cowboys, Denver Broncos, Detroit Lions, Green Bay Packers, Houston Texans, Indianapolis Colts, Jacksonville Jaguars, Kansas City Chiefs, Las Vegas Raiders, Los Angeles Chargers, Los Angeles Rams, Miami Dolphins, Minnesota Vikings, New England Patriots, New Orleans Saints, New York Giants, New York Jets, Philadelphia Eagles, Pittsburgh Steelers, San Francisco 49ers, Seattle Seahawks, Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Tennessee Titans, Washington Commanders Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Week 10 is upon us. We have in a second to waste. We have to get to the first ever mid-season awards for the NFL, I mean, but we don't live life fully in the rearview mirror. No, no, no. Philosophically, we like to look ahead to the near horizon. That's why we have our week 10 picks up coming for you as well with Mike Ryan, 10-day Tony and the fellas. Stick around. You just have to sit through like a three-second intro here. Start the show. Yes, hi and hello, my fellow football Americans, welcome to NFL Week 9. Welcome to episode 23 of Football America. We're presented as ever by Draft Kings. Draft Kings, the crown is yours. We have Mike Ryan and 10-day Tony coming in here for the mid-season awards, NFL style, the first ever awards of their kind on this show and in the history of mankind. Also, we've got the NFL Week 10th.

10 countdown, best games of the weekend, who's going to win them and buy how much? Did I say at the top of the show, NFL Week 9? I think I did, but there's no time to go back now. We're pressing forward. First, let's honor Gino and Mike, Mike and Gino Fwentz, the person who wore this episode's number best. Today, that number is 23. So I think we can have a pretty quick conversation here. I'm going with Mike Jordan.

Played for the Bulls, the Wizards. You probably remember him. Anyone else? Who from pro football is the best one? Really, Devin Hester? I guess that's kind of good if you're a fan of the U. He's going to get the whole-offing representation there. Isn't Devin Restor?

Devin Hester, I feel like, owns a lot of awards that because of new kickoff rules will never be broken. Am I right about that? Ooh, hot take. I like that. That's probably true. Found a good take after pronouncing his name the way that Scooby-Doo would. Devin'Restr? I'm going to wait.

Is Christian McCaffrey? Is he 23? Is Christian McCaffrey? No, 21. No, 21. Is he 21? Is he 21? No.

He's 22. He might be 23. 22 or 23? He might be 23. What's the football? This is what's going wrong in football America. LeBron? Yeah, this is what we do on the show. Mike Ryan.

We're getting to you in just one second. We have football expert Draymond Green, Don Mattingly, the late great Ryan Sandberg, Kirk Gibson, who hit a big home run once way back when. By the way. Yeah, by the way, he wore 23. And he wears 23 for San Francisco. He wore 22 of Carolina. All right.

Here we go. Let's say hello to our two guests. are two pals, one of whom I just saw down there in South Beach during my visit to the Lebitard show and the great shindig, Thursday night football and all of that last week, good times. He wasn't there to say hello to because he was off in Dallas, Texas, which proved to be a bad choice. Mike Ryan, how are you, fellow? What's the poop, fellow? I'm still not good because of that terrible choice. Yeah, Dallas sucked. Don't go to Dallas. Because they wore the green pants instead of the orange. It would have been a nice uniform.

match. That's a better color clash. You don't know what you're talking about, Dave. Come on. Really? You like the blue jersey against the green pants? Yeah, yeah, because there's red accents in the SMU uniform. I don't like red versus orange. Neither does Carson Beck. He usually throws four picks when that's the case. I would love to hear, let's ask 10-day Tony this first question up before we get to our NFL midseason awards here. How are you 10-day Tony? And how many teams and which ones are they that are going to get a bid into the tournament? the big tournament, not the ACC tournament, from the ACC. This is a bum conference.

I don't know that any deserve a bid. I mean, the champion's going to get a bid. I'd probably say two if I'm handicapped, and I'd probably put it at one and a half is the number. I'd probably say two. But Dave, I want to know how Kendall was. A lot of people that come to the show that come to Miami don't end up in Kendall, especially in the hood that we were just at. How did you feel about what was going on?

Oh, I thought the time was positively gay, as you promised it would be. What you were wrong about 10-day Tony was, I was cautioned about how long the drive was going to be from downtown Miami to Kendall. And you're like, oh, 15, 20 minutes. No. No, I told me. It was an hour. It was an hour. At night.

At night. Yeah, at night night. On the way over there? Midnight. Yeah, that's always like a good 60 to 90. Yeah, but, you know, it's worth it. When you get to Kendall Flanagan's, it's worth it, trust. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no doubt.

I saw Dave, Dave was partaking heavy. The winner there was the wing. Garlic rolls, yes. My guy was in on the wings. How about the rib rolls? My guy was smashing garlic rolls. Did you have to do the rock and rib rolls? Rock and rib rolls, rock and rib rolls were great.

I missed the rib rolls, but I had one of those garlic rolls, and it's all I've heard about for the last week that I, the damage check was using the privilege of garlic roll. I had one of them at the end of the night. I don't even what you're talking. You enjoyed the hell out of it, though. You have a salad? Yeah. Salad's great.

I'm not going to apologize for enjoying food. That's one of my passions. Very quickly, Mike, and Tenday, Tony, talking to Miami, and I don't want to obsess about what's going on with the dolphins or with the U. It's sad times, basically. If you're a football fan in Miami, I feel like right now. But a fashion question for you, Mike Ryan, since we do drip drill on occasion, and we do owe a new division analysis. Maybe we can do that in the next week. Meanwhile, the World Series Game 7, Isaiah Kiner Folefa, infamously, slides head.

feet first into home plate, and he's called out. But everybody said he should have head for a slid. But he had on the oven mitt. What if the margin of victory in getting the World Series was the oven mitt? Where do we go as a society from there? Where do we come down on the oven mitt as an amendment to one's uniform and it playing potentially a critical role? I mean, we avoided it here. But one day it's going to happen.

If he did the oven mitt, it would be near impossible to know if he's, actually touching the plate when it gets over. We have that technology. We had a situation where some angles where the foot was hovering over, but we know it didn't exactly hit. If it's the oven mid, maybe the Blue Jays are the World Series champ. And therein lies the problem. Don't like the oven met.

Outlaw it. Yeah, well, thank goodness. The one thing we avoided, what a splendid game seven it was in every regard. And thank goodness that we didn't decide game seven of the World Series on an instant replay. In fact, a hot take or otherwise, if they would have said, actually, the runner was safe on that play, the J should have said, we're men of honor. No, we're not taking it. We play on. We're not going to win the World Series that way.

You know baseball America is taken. Oh, it is? Okay. Let's stick to football here. 10-day Tony, who's, well, before we move on, I have to say, the oven mitt. Who, who decided that this is, this is the height of the technology? We got, well, what choice do we have? We have to protect our base runner's hands, and the only solution is a giant hamburger

helper oven mitt. We don't have other technology that can effectively protect some fingers? We do. In soccer, goalie gloves, they have splints. You have dexterity with the fingers, and you could see them separated. You won't have, like, the oven mitt issue if they're sliding over. You could see space between them. Just put some splints and padding in the gloves.

have them wear soccer goalie gloves. Okay, better idea for 2026, but the baseball season is wrapped. It wrapped for me, let's be honest, outside of watching a couple of those World Series games about two, three months ago. Ten Day Tony, answer this one for me from an AFC East enthusiast, and you root for the dolphins. Well, you root for the Patriots, but you are in Miami, and then you see what the Jets just did. Yeah, I take a man of the shield approach.

Okay, that's right. You need your Rob low lid. Which is the better spot to be in? I was just on with our collective pal, Zaslo, on his show. Go back and listen to that one. It was a good time. But would you rather be today the Jets who purged two tent pole guys, and really now they have to go back into the market to replace exactly those two guys at a cheaper rate,

but at least they have all those first-round picks? Or would you want to be the dolphins who are in this weird purgatory now? They only deal Jalen Phillips and keep Jailen. Waddle and Bradley Chubbing the rest of them, which is the better spot to be in? Better spot to be in is the Jets, right? You're not saddled with a massive quarterback contract that you don't know if you can get out of. Plus, you don't know if the guy's any good, right?

So, like, let's just start there. That you don't have with Justin Fields. Yeah, you deal a defensive tackle in Quinn and Williams. You deal a corner in Soss Gardner. But, like, you're hoping that your front office is smart enough to get guys in the first round, second round, and so on and so forth in the draft that can kind of fill those positions you can develop up. The Dolphins right now are just in purgatory of, A, we're not good, B, we're saddled with a bad contract.

C, we think we have a lame duck coach. We don't really, who's going to be the GM? Like, there's way more structural, architectural questions that are on the dolphin side than the Jets said. The Jets is just like, nail your picks and don't be idiots. Yeah, I think you're right, except the loophole in what you just said is that we assume that the Jets will make good picks, which we already know that they will not. It's a big a big asterisk. Hey there, my fellow football Americans. You feel that chill in the air, don't you?

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Guy who constantly gets mentioned as an MVP candidate, but has zero chance of winning it and probably never had a chance in August and won't have one in January of 2026. I'm going to start with you, 10-day, Tony. Since I had this take at the beginning of the season, it was just a matter of an injury, and this guy getting a chance.

It was Daniel Jones. I said at the beginning of season, if Anthony Richardson, we can just move him out of the way, Daniel Jones could potentially have an MVP season. And he's been doing just that, outside of the Pittsburgh game, excuse me. I want to give it to Daniel Jones. so I want to give a second one to Sam Darnold.

Two guys that I feel like are playing at an MVP level. That's not how this works. I don't think you're understanding. Yeah, seriously. They can't have a shot of winning. These are guys who cannot win. His answer applies because there's no way they're voting Daniel Jones like MVP.

But you can't go and say, oh, I have co-MvPs now. Daniel Jones is a rancash. I have co-guides that won't win the MVP. You can't be doing that. Okay, Daniel Jones is my answer. Okay. Is a guy who you think is in the conversation, but you know deep in your balls is never going to win it at the end of the day, right?

Especially because I put him in said conversation. Nobody else did. So it's just me talking myself. I hate this character. No, no, no, I'm just saying it's just me talking to myself. Nobody else has him in the MVP race except me. Oh, nobody has mentioned Indiana Jones. He was in this case, in this rare instance, Tony was indeed first on Daniel Jones.

Well, I mean, Dave is pretty early. Sat in this very spot. You were first on the Colts. Well, you were the first steal Tony's take then. Congratulations. We give first place medals out for that too. What's your answer, Mike Ryan? Matthew Stafford, I just don't think that's his story.

Even though he's deservedly in the conversation throughout his career, this has happened plenty. But I just don't think he's got the makeup. A lot has put on McVeigh. They put a lot of talent around him. Matthew Stafford is an incredible quarterback, Hall of Famer, but may not presently be the best player on his own team. I can't tell who's better at their job.

Matthew Safford or Puka, who makes who better? They're both great, in my opinion, but I just don't think Matthew Safford will ever win an MVP. That's great, and it's funny that you bring that one up because it's the exact reason why no matter what Daniel Jones does, he has no chance of winning the MVP because he shares the backfield with Jonathan Taylor, who people love mentioning in the last three weeks. Hey, you got to say this, Jonathan, he's got to be an MVP candidate. Yeah, he should be, but he's not because there's no chance that they're going to. give it to a running back in the year of our Lord 2025, so let's stop talking about it. Same goes for Jackson, Smith,

and Jigba, who may end up hurting Sam Darnold's case. It's going to be one of the usual. Well, that's why I was saying, like, Josh Allen is the front runner for this award. Just because all the other guys get penalized for having teams that put good players around them. Yeah. And they have the weird offensive player of the year award, which is just like

you're the actual MVP, because we only pay attention to the office, because defenders won't actually win this. And you may be the best of your job, but MVP, He's a quarterback award, correct. It is the classic having your cake and some pie that these voters get. Like, MVP, no, no, he's the offensive player of the year, you understand? There's a distinction.

Can you explain what the distinction is for everybody? Because it makes no sense to all of us. It's Daniel Jones's MVP and Jonathan Taylor is offensive player. Give me that situation. One note that is important when people bring up, hey, this guy's having a really good year. You really could make a case for him. Is his team going to at minimum win the division? If not, then he has no chance.

Stop is like, he's having a good individual year when I got, like Joe Burrow last year. Do you think Joe Burrow was going to win the MVP with a team that was scraping to get into the playoffs? The answer is no. Okay, next one, speaking of all that stuff, trying to get into the postseason and otherwise, team currently in a playoff position, but won't be by season's end. Mike Ryan, I start with you. I have two nominees here, but I don't want to steal one from Tony. and I saw how we rightfully chastised him for that.

So I'm just going to go with the easy one here. Jags presently in the final playoff position in the AFC. I just don't think they end up doing it. I'm a Jags guy. I just thought long and hard about that. Yeah, I'm a Jags guy. I'm a Jaggs guy. I'm not for Duvales County stand up.

Are you against any team? I guess that's the shorter answer, right? Are you asking the right questions? Now you're asking the right questions. Now you know his bit. The only team or person he's ever shorted in the history of football appears to be Kyler Murray. That one seems to be

budding quite nicely by the way. Well, the real reason the Jags aren't going to make is because the team right behind them is the Chiefs. Well, okay, but they have the head-to-head victory. Tony got it. Thank you. Pretty smart. So then what's your pick? Is it still the Jags? No, my team that is in a playoff position right now that won't be as a San Francisco

45- Yeah, that was my second choice there. You're just banking on the injuries catching up with them. They've navigated them. I just think that they have two better teams in that division, the Seahawks and the Rams, and there's no way three NFC West teams make it. Why not? That happens all the time. It happens all the time. It happens all the time or three teams. Happens in the AFC North. Even the NFC East. We had a year with the Cowboys, Cowboys Eagles and Commies. Yeah. No, you're right. I just don't think the 49ers have enough

Jews. They're doing enough with what they have with McCorkle and with their players. But like Ricky Pearsall, is he ever going to see the field again? We don't know. Joanne Jennings has got like the Howard Bryan injury. Yeah, he's out of bed. He tears two quads. Dave, what's your pick? Well, I mean, if they were to go to a Super Bowl, I would just have to do away with the Jenga theory, which is if you remove the critical piece, the whole thing's going to implode. That would be thrown out the window because they don't have Nick Bosa or Fred Warner and they're still hanging around. Let's see what happens in the second half of the season. The easy answer is either the chiefs, or no, that's the team that's

in a play. I'm talking about the teams. We all have chiefs that are presently O-LI are going to be in. Yeah. Tony said it. The Jags, for what it's worth, did beat K. AC head-to-head. And Baltimore is two games back of Jacksonville and Pittsburgh. And obviously Baltimore can overcome that by sweeping the two games against Pittsburgh. But Baltimore, Houston is also hovering around. If you look at the way it stacks up in the AFC, there's a gigantic drop-off after the top eight all the way down to three and five. Houston is not completely finished yet in the wild car chase because they have a head-to-head against the Ravens too. I hear your workshop and all this stuff. Let's settle on most likely. We're not having an

NFL playoff without Andy Reed and Patrick Mahomes in it. Yeah, we know this. Correct. I guess the easy answer here is where we started here. The Jags are probably, you know, they did jazz up that roster a little bit at the trade deadline. They're a little bit better. So, okay, let's do the other side of this one and continue where we are here. The team that is currently not in a playoff spot that will be, we already started with the Chiefs. The answer for me is the Ravens. Like, I think that... Excluding the Chiefs, you're saying. Excluding the Chiefs, but, like, a team that is not currently there that I think can still win the division is the Ravens, right?

Like, Dave said it. If they sweep the Steelers coming up in the last little half of the season, like, they're going to win the division. They're going to be in the playoffs. So, like, that for me is what I'm looking at. And I feel pretty good about the Ravens long term. I don't have a ton of conviction with mine. They're presently in last place, but they haven't had their quarterback most of the season. And I just like how they play games.

I think Minnesota with their defense hangs around. It's a tough division to do it. But if you were to bet on a last place team to do it, that's the one. You lead me right into what I was going to bring up here. The Vikings, a lot of people have thrown dirt on them, and it's super weird how fast people render their verdicts, especially on young quarterbacks. And I think that's why a lot of people are kind of like,

the vikes are finished as though J.J. McCarthy is a bust forever because he played a bad half a football after his girlfriend or wife or whatever, had a baby. The Vikes are four and four, so that then makes the grimmest bowl that they have upcoming against the Ravens, all purple, all day. It's a huge one for them and the Ravens. The loser of this one is going to be in some real trouble, and it also assumes the talk about Baltimore getting into this thing assumes at minimum a split with Pittsburgh. If that didn't happen, the Ravens would really, really be in bad trouble. Another one, I know there's some buzz about the Bears, and after the way they won their game last Sunday, it kind of felt like,

boy, it's 180-degree opposite of what happened to them last year with the commies, and now they're five and three, and this is going to propel them into the postseason. They still go at Philly, at Green Bay. They're still in that miserable division, so I don't think the bears are going to get in. Sorry if that ruins anybody's parade. All right. Next up, Mike Ryan, you go first on this one. The NFC one seed will be, and as a reminder, this is not an evaluation of who you think is the best team. It's who's going to wind up with the best record in the conference. How'll say you? I think it's going to be the Eagles. They have the head-to-head on Tampa. I'm really bullish on Tampa this year. More on that later. But I like the way that the schedule works out. I guess a

big one will be Monday night when they play Green Bay. If they get that result, I think you can, I'm sure the odds will reflect this. But I think Philadelphia ends up being the number one seat, Tony. I'm agreeing with Mike. I think the Eagles have the best roster top to bottom. I think they haven't been playing to the full extent of what their talent is. Obviously, getting more talent on the defensive side of the ball, which I heard Alexander with Jalen Phillips. I think Fanger's going to coach them up and have them ready to play.

I'm going to go, I'm going to go Eagles too. A lot of additions here, man. Yeah. I got. I mean, go ahead. Can I zig a little bit where you guys are zagging? November 16th, Seahawks Rams. Big game.

Whoever wins that game, number one. I mean, they play each other twice, too. So you're counting. for the split and wondering if the math-maths there. I love the NFC West this year, but I just think it's almost too tough that it'd be really tough for one of those teams to come out clearly ahead of the rest of the division and take that one seed. You know, everything becomes rhetorical, the more you talk about as much as we talk about pro football. But have you looked at the standings in the last week or so? I think I can now

officially switch over for the last three, four years. We've said, oh, well, the AFC is where all the good teams are. I think it's now the NFC. It's now a tick better than the AFC. I mean, look, just the West alone, the heavyweights with the Niners who we're talking about not making it and the Hawks. The Rams and Niners is huge this weekend. One shout to the Bucks, though. Their fate is determined by their next three. The Patriots, at Buffalo, at the Rams. If they can go two and one out of that, which is tough to do, but if they can, it's nothing but cupcakes ahead. Even if they go one and two, they are going to have a shot at this. Aided by the buy, though.

The buy came in a really good time for this, too. Okay, let's switch it over to that aforementioned AFC. Tony, you go first. Who's going to be the number one seed there? I think this one's going to be a little bit of a crazy take. I think the New England Patriots are going to be the number one seed in the EFC. I think that their remaining schedule, if you look at it, seems very cake. And Drake May is getting really fat on bad teams.

And somehow some way, the Patriots, I guess, from last year, have just a very easy schedule. I think they're going to be able to run the table and get the number one scene. Cake May. I really like what I saw from the bills, Tony. I think that they figured it out. There was plenty of reasons to be curious about them going forward,

their defense, and I know they have a ton of injuries, but they got Superman under center. Josh Allen is just a demigod. They'll have another matchup coming up. Patriots probably have one of the best wins, more impressive wins of the NFL season. I'm not bucking up too much against that. I think it's going to reside in that division.

but I'll edge out the bills in this one. Yeah, I think when it comes to what you said about New England, last few games have been kind of give-mys for them, New Orleans, Tennessee, Cleveland, Atlanta. Those are all games that beat Atlanta by one. You know, they had a bad loss of Vegas start the year. They beat up on the dolphins. So I think we're excited about them right now.

Kind of like the Big Ten. Tampa Bay. You get fat on the bottom half of the conference. But what do you want them to do? If they're an underdog that got the greatest underdog head coach, arguably in the history of the league. It's not their fault. everybody else is bad. I hear your noise. What's fascinating about this one is, you would think,

if I told you the Bills beat the Chiefs and the Ravens, you'd be like, well, then what are we even talking about? I mean, obviously, they're the best team in the conference, and maybe they are, but to Tony's point, they absolutely are in line to lose this division. The Bills' path, the rest of the way, is way rougher than what Drake May and Company have. I'm going to stick with the Bills here because they're my preseason Super Bowl pick, and I'm nothing if riding with the guy in the mirror as a vain person. Next up, Mike Ryan, QB, you want for the remainder of the season. Now, if you want to go easy with training wheels, I'll give you Patrick Mahomes, or even if you want Mahomes, is there somebody else who you might want under center for these big games upcoming?

I never go easy, and I already gave Josh Allen his flowers. So I'm going to play the hits here. I'm going to do Wonderwall right now. I want Baker Mayfield. Yeah. In the voice, too. Baker, Mayfield. Bold. Bold, and I like it quite a bit. We agree it's not Jared Goff, though. For real. Yeah, for real. Isn't that ultimately, that remains the limitation for all the flowers he deserves to have gotten over the last couple of years? Give me a war horse. And now Baker's entering war horse territory. Stafford, too. I'm not, I don't want it easy. Speaking of war horse, that's my guy. Is that your guy? Stafford. I'm leaving my homes. I'm leaving Josh Allen on the shelf. Obviously, those are the two answers. But outside of those top two,

I want the old warhorse, the guy who's been through everything and everyone and seen it all, done it all. Give me Matthew Stafford. You're not surprising him. Tony and I are in lockstep. Come on, baby. I go Stafford, too, and I go Stafford over Josh Allen as well. Stafford's done it. And the other thing is he is maybe the most eternal guy of the century, as much as that paradox can be true.

He's only 38. It seems like he's been in the league as long as Tom Brady was in the. He's an old 30. He's been around forever. He didn't look old last week. Okay, yeah. I'm going Stafford. Mike, you want to throw one in?

Me and you know, we're discussing, like, Sam Darnold. I mean, but then, you know, Josh Allen, like said, Josh Allen. But Josh Allen's kind of like an easy take, like how Pat would be. But, you know, also like Stafford. You guys hipsters? Oh, the guy who said Baker, yeah, the guy who said Baker. They went head to head. Yeah, that's fine.

Okay. They went head to head. How'd that work out? I'm going to be hipper still, a guy who we haven't seen play in at least a month and a half. How about Brock Purdy, really? I'm not talking about the guy at the trigger. You don't want Brock Purdy.

You're lying. You're telling lies. I like Brock Purdy. No, I'm taking Kyle Shanahan is what I'm taking. When I say I take Brock Purdy. It might be Mac Jones or it might be Brock Purdy. I'll take the Niners quarterback. Listen, I hate Jordan Love.

I take him over Brock Purdy. I don't know about that. Yeah, I don't like Jordan Love at all. I don't know about that. Listen, I'm not saying Brock Purdy anywhere in pro football. I'm saying as the quarterback who was handpicked by Kyle Shanahan, who's

one of the three OG true bona fide play callers out there. Terry Lance was the handpick guy. You're going deep into the mixstapes right now. Tray Lance is the handpriced. I just wanted to throw it. I wanted to be hipper still. Okay. Team

you'd least want to be rooting for right now. I feel like you guys kind of answered this one before we got into the midseason awards proper. but Mike take this one Everyone else has dolphins We can check that I learn from me

I am so happy I don't have to root for the Cleveland Browns anymore And I am especially loving That I don't have to root for them this year As someone that is fully recovered From their Browns fandom It's the Browns Really?

Yeah they're in way more dire straits than the Miami Dolphins are You mentioned Tua is an albatross of a contract To get out from under Their guy you forgot about That's how bad there is He doesn't even stroll up to the facility.

That guy, yeah. But the checks keep getting sent. Mike Fuentes called me and Joey Moulinaro fellow Steelers fan out earlier this week on the jerk list for being overly negative as Steelers fans first place and all of that and the history of Ruea can play. Well, whatever. I mean, fine. I know what the history is. I get what I say. I said, yeah, five and three.

I do like to periodically remind myself. And it's nice the way that the U.S. map sets. up with Cleveland so close. Like, it could always be worse. It could always be worse. Steelers fans. You could root for one of those teams in Ohio. It's clearly the Browns. They are way worse off than the Jets, and the Jets are an ongoing embarrassment themselves. Browns to the left of us, Ravens to the right. Here we go. All right. Best, oh, good one for Mike Ryan here. Best single get-up of the season so far. Single uniform, not uniform matchup. Well, it's tough. We delved into the uniform matchup in previous episode.

If I had to pick one from those two, I'm going Bucks throwbacks. Here's why, slight knock on the Seahawks, because with a new Nike pant, it's hard. I love it when it's a sparkling silver pant with that Seahawks look. It's a little dull for the Seahawks look. The helmet has beautiful flints in it. I want the pants to reflect that. So I'm going with the road throwback whites unveiled by the Tampa Bay Bucks this season. That was an incredible looking game, Dave, between Seattle and Tampa when they don those bad boys.

I just love the road whites. I like that you call it pant Why is it that pants are Plural and it's because you have two legs But then why is your shirt not plural? You have two arms These are things that I ask myself

All the time when I'm on 20 milligrams But isn't it a question of like The pants On a pair of pants The feature part is the extremities Where on a shirt The feature part is the torso area Especially where damage X can say

Yeah I just always say it to get I'm no mad Khalil. No, but it's correct. I like it when people call it pant. Oh, that's a good-looking pants. You sound like a fashion-officionado when you say that. Yeah, you kind of, it's kind of like, you're a little elevated.

You talk like, you know, it's a little like Jeff Goldblum, like, ooh, this guy must know something. He doesn't call him pants. It's like a guy who talks a shirt. Oh, I have a bunch of t-shirt. Some guy goes, I have a bunch of pieces. Ooh, you know, you're a little more. Yeah, it's how you come off as intelligent without actually having to be. Oh, these are some nice pieces I like here.

You know, yeah. It makes you sound smarter. All right, we'll skip uniform matchup because we have kind of covered that. I mean, that was a universal winner. I mean, there was no way. Tampa Bay, Seattle is my best uniform matchup. Yeah, you mentioned both, yeah.

There's no touching it. There's a huge goal. I think second place is also Seattle against the throwback commie uniforms because why the Seattle uniform was there. It's great, yeah. For me, the best get up of the season, Kelly Green Eagles.

With the gray pants, I love it. Also, yeah, it's green. Good job. It's Kelly Green, the ugliest green. And also, no mention of the Denver Broncos Orange Crush? I mean, paired against,

we've talked about the layered onion that is the Cowboys uniforms. It doesn't make any sense, but when it comes to contrast, can look like a million bucks. Now that you mentioned that, how did you feel about

the Cowboys' singular red stripe on their own? Look, the uniform makes zero sense. Why not throw a red stripe on there too? Let's have fun. Yeah, let's just go crazy. Here's, as we've discussed,

if you're going to do that, if you're going to go like half-ass with the red stripe like they did in 76, then go all the way and go flat finish on the pants. The shiny pants is what made it look like just a mess. Like, did you guys forget, did your equipment manager forget to pack the correct pants or something like that? Because they just did not match at all.

Oh, I'm sorry, the correct pants. I actually saw, I was in Dallas and I did like a whole thing at the facility, the history of the pant and why the pant is that color. And your eyes don't deceive you, Dave. Like year to year, the color changes. because the material changes. And they also go out of their way to make the hue closer to the original. And some years, they're like, well, just make it a little bit more silver this time.

They're messing with us, pal. Wow. And then sometimes it's this faint turquoise. It was for like 10 years. And then they amended that. It's not even blue. It's seafone green. Right.

It's sea foam green. It's not silver. It's not blue. It's not blue. It's a green. I love the Seahawks. I love the Buccaneers. I like the Eagles a lot, but the 1960 throwback is superior, so that's not on my list.

The best throwback that's out there that we see once in a while, Patriot. Yeah, the Patriot's Red is great. That's a great one. Patriot, boo, terrible-looking helmet. It looks stupid. Bradley's not here for this discussion, so we can't really have it. I was going to ask who's the most handsome football American. Kevin O'Connell.

Oh, that dude can wear a hoodie. It's Kevin O'Connell. I was talking about this show. But you're talking about the most handsome football American. McVeigh, dude. McVeigh, dude. Sometimes you don't want to do the upper chest workout or the wide chest. But, dude, you got to do it.

My guy is in early on Monday's buddy. That's chest day. He's there. McVeigh. My guy is out there. My guy's out there like this. No, no, no. It's just the chest, dude.

Yeah, the chest is nice. And LaFleur, Immaculate Fade. Oof, that fate is perfect. Yes. I mean, that's all they were doing on that staff, chest. in Washington was like, hey, who's your barber? Who's your chess guy? Exactly.

And McDaniel never showed up. Fascinating that Mike Fuentes and Mike Ryan park their cars in the same garage, but that's what I find off-putting about Matt LaFleur is the styling of the facial hair. It's very precious. I can, Mike, I can tell that's what you do, too. But it ain't for me. I don't shave my own face. I don't.

I go in every eight days. And someone just gets it at the. same length. Yeah, this is bullshit. Yeah. By the way, shout out to Dave Canales. He might be on the handsome coach list, too. Yeah, he was trying to wear a hat, and you know what?

Didn't hate it. Yeah, young up and comer, Dick Canales, no. Okay, let's wrap it up here then with two answers. Tony, you go first. Team that's going to lose Super Bowl 60. The Buffalo Bills. I think they get past the hump of Kansas City. I think they get to the promised land, but they don't, they can't get in because

another team is in the way. And then how do you feel about that if you're a Bills fan? We did it. We finally killed Thanos. We did it. Roll the end credits. Wait, we still have another game. Oh, now we lost it?

What does any of it mean? Right? Exactly. You don't feel satisfied if you're a Bills fan if you don't get the Lombardy, even if you do vanquish Mahomes. Mike Ryan, how say you? I think the Bucks lose the Super Bowl. Wow.

I don't think the Bucks are the one seed. AFC champion. But I think the Tampa Bay Bucks make it out of the NFC. Even though that Philly game got away from them, they made some special teams plays. I don't think Philadelphia wants to see Tampa in the playoffs. I really don't. And I think guts, guile, and a little bit of Baker Mayfield. Wow.

And getting healthier at the right time. C&B. I think that the Bucer are built for this, man. How great? How great is Baker Mayfield to watch? It's a universal beloved truth on Sundays. It was a bye week. and something was missing.

It was Baker Mayfield, America's quarterback. Did I mention that the Browns are an ongoing punchline? Baker Mayfield has jumped to the very top of that list. Also, the guy they traded to get to replace Baker Mayfield

is 1A to that answer there. Mike Fuentes, you want to jump in here? Actually, no. You don't want to pick a Super Bowl loser. No. You're just winners only? I just feel like if I say the bills again,

I'm just going to come off as a hater. Well, we can just skip right past you since you didn't have an opinion. No, you punted on that. Dave, I have a fun one. Here we go. No one's mentioned this team yet in either direction, except that they hate the quarterback. The Green Bay Packers are going to lose Super Bowl 60.

I have a ticket. I have a Super Bowl winner ticket on Green Bay. But I don't like how they approach these teams that are not good. They have a very much of like a play-up to competition mentality and then play down severely to competition. Also, they just lost. Well, then I got great news for you, Because they're not going to be playing any bad teams come playoff time.

Yeah, that's true. Right? It might be built for it. It's funny you got them losing the Super Bowl and they're not even going to make it. That's crazy. Listen, I'm bold, if nothing else. All right, let's bring it home now. The team that's going to win Super Bowl 60, Mike Ryan.

I don't think it ends in heartbreak for Buffalo. I think they get past Patrick Mahomes and I think they get over this hump. But I think Bill's Bucks, I mean, your kids better be going to bed at 615. They don't need to be seeing this. It's whoever has the ball last. on Josh Allen out of the ball last. Do not leave more than four seconds for Baker Mayfield. All right. Great all-time Super Bowl. I'll be crushed as a Bakerbacker. But I love the Bill's fans. They welcome Browns fans into their stadium when the Browns left Cleveland.

Always a weird little kinship over there by the lake. I want their fans to win this. I love Josh Allen. I love their story. I love their team. A bunch of good guys. I'm rooting for them. Buffalo Bills win the Super Bowl. Wow. Well, I already said bills are going to the Super Bowl. So that gives away my answer. I think they are going to beat the Green Bay Packers in the Super Bowl. Of course, the best Super Bowl would be, for one, that is realistic still as we sit here midway through the season, is Bill's Lions. If those two fan bases could go up against each other, but also Packers' bills, two

delightful fan bases as well. What a gay time that would be in Santa Clara. Tony, bring it on home here with a good one. Guys, I think the villains win again. Eagles beat the Bills in the Super Bowl. Tush push is all over the field. They can't stop it. Fourth down and short, doesn't matter.

Jalen Hertz scores an octopus based just on the tush push. Scores a touchdown, scores a two-point conversion. Eagles repeat again. And then they throw the tush push out forever. Yes, that's what I was going to say. The sunsitting of the tush push happens on an octopus. Both teams. Game winning drive for Jalen Hertz and the Philadelphia.

This is the game that makes America really sick of it because both teams can do the tush push. So it's going to be tush pushing back and forth all the way down. Like a rugby scrub. Yeah, exactly. You're so, that's exactly right. That's what we talked about. The tush push is weird because as it now, everybody has their version of it,

almost everybody, except the chiefs. I think it's going to cost them a game in January finally. It's not like they're seeing it here and there. Every team can do it to them. So it's a competitive disadvantage that they refuse to give it to 15 or anyone else on that roster to do it when it's available to them. And I think you're absolutely right. It's not as bad as ending a season on a replay or something like that.

But it's going to be real bad if the Eagles win it, leaning on the tush push, and then they throw it out the window. Like, what are we supposed to think of the Eagles at that point? Wait, the rule that you've done away with because you thought it was unfair, they get to keep their Lombardis, though? It's a little murky, right? It is, but again, if you don't like it, stop it. Yeah, they're getting it in before it's banned.

Don't like it, stop it. That's my simple answer. It's not like they're doing it while it's banned. You banned it after. No, I get it. I just think it's going to be unsatisfying. We're going to be like, yeah, but you wouldn't have won if you hadn't had that dumb play that everybody has agreed is now stupid. And so enjoy your Lombardies.

But Dave, I think history is littered with stuff like this. Like Michael Jordan, the way he used to guard people, they had to outlaw it at the end of his career because you couldn't do that shack and the way he, you know, eventually teams, eventually this stuff gets outlawed because people are so good to do it. Yeah, this is a real, if A, then this thing would be B situation. All right, 10-day Tony, Mike Ryan, what a pleasure times two. Thanks so much for joining on the mid-season awards. I think these went swimmingly, and I think we should do them again next year. Glad to finally be joining you when it's okay to be having an MVP conversation. I kept jumping the gun, and now we finally decided mid-season, we can hand out some hypothetical awards.

Got to get over the peak of the halfway point in the season. and I'm sorry to leave on a sour note. You were wrong. The hurricanes definitely should have worn the orange pants. Dark green versus dark blue? It was just regular blue, not dark blue. You might be colorblind, pal. Ah, good times there with those awards.

Now we press forward with the week 10 pick six, presented as ever by Draft Kings. Draft Kings, the crown is yours. All right. know and Mike, Mike and Gino, let's establish our half dozen picks here. I'm going touchdowns mostly here like I have been. We've got to conquer the beast. We must get that million dollars already starting off with. I know I just said bad things about you, Jared Gough, but I do like you to throw more than one and a half touchdown passes. You've done so in four of your last five. Why not do it again? Sam Darnold, same deal for you, two touchdown passes

or more. He's done that in three of his last four. How about this? Marcus Mariotta, for a single interception. Great bet, of course, right? If a little negative. Michael Badgley, over seven and a half kicking points, and there are those touchdowns, I promised you. Derek Henry, he's one of those cats who feels to me like he gets into stretches where he scores a lot of touchdowns. He did that last week. He continues that role this week and a guy who's about as dependable as it gets at getting into the end zone. Jamir Gibbs. Any issues, fellas. So I don't love betting interceptions in general.

I know he's a backup. I know he's Marcus Marriota, but it's just whenever I seem to pick or depend on an interception, it almost never works out. We have... Bad human beings, stuff? Is that what you're worried about? I don't know what it is. It's like Tua Tua Vaila Lua, right?

Our homegrown quarterback here leads a league in interceptions. He throws them in bunches. Yeah. Whenever I decide, you know what, we're going to try to make some little keesh off of Tua interception. He never seems to throw it. So if it's a dependable thing, I don't. don't know, because, yeah, maybe I'm just not hoping for the negative, but, um, okay,

replace it then. Yeah, that's all the good. My replacement would be Devante Adams touchdown. Puka Nakua, a little bit banged up. Devonte Adams seems to be a nice red zone target for Matt Stafford. I think he has like five in his last two games or something like that, something ridiculous number like that. But I like Devonte Adams to get a touchdown.

If Pooka's out, then for sure. Yeah, if Pooka's out, I'm in. But he has like a rib thing. And I know he plays through that stuff a lot. But even then, it looks like Devante Adams, along with a, you know, a whole legion of tight ends seems to be the red zone target down there for Matt Stafford in the Rams. Don't forget

Shanney owns McVeigh, man. That has been for their entire head-to-head careers. So you might want to consider that if you're making any wagers on that game. Gino, you want to throw any in there? I like Mike's calling it Kiche. I haven't heard that one. Well, I was going to go James Cook, but they don't have it listed. I don't know

if it's because he's questionable or just because it's so obvious. But I'm going to go Josh Allen rushing TD here and let's take out Badgley because F kick. yeah yeah I'm kind of with you and it's you know who knows week to week if they're going to be in the spot where he's swinging the leg I think that's a good one to replace him like a comet through here to be like what about the kickers what about the kickers you know every time every time kickers invention Bradley comes in like a freight train we're going to talk about kickers this week

I was surprised there was no one shouting out any kicker in the year of the kicker actually when we did the MVP all right let's do game picks as promised time now for the week 10 We're going to count down the half dozen best games and who's going to win them and by how much. I want to throw one in real quick. I know we don't have time for this, but I'm doing it anyway. I'm surprised the dolphins are only plus nine and a half against the bills. How say you, Fuentes, boys? Yes.

Shouldn't that number be more like 13? Yeah, how come, like, other teams are getting like 14 point spreads and stuff like that? Dolphins only get nine and a half. That's weird. The over under is 50 and a half. I could see the... James Cook can't be worth that. Yeah, I could see.

see this easily being like one of those like 42 to 8 games and it just misses the under the Dolphins get a late touchdown, late 2 point conversion that doesn't matter and it's like 42A finally just missed the under. Because part of the thing is that they haven't changed the guy like leading the team on the field

they just changed the GM and they've made the defense worse actually by trade so it's one of a number of funky numbers to my eye I'm not a bookmaker I don't know if I've mentioned that before but nevertheless some of these stand out is weird. I mentioned the Grimmest Bowl at the top of the show and Baltimore and Minnesota

purple, purple and more purple. The Vikings at home talking about a weird number. Plus four and a half? What did I miss? The Ravens are now world beaters again because they won a game last week. Maybe they are. Mike Fuentes. Where do you land on this one? I mean, that's a big Lamar Jackson effect, right? I mean, and he came out. He really slaying at four touchdowns. It gets a terrible Miami team that couldn't do anything. Brian Flores is going to send. in the house on every play, which might be a good thing for Baltimore if he's picking the Yeah, you kind of perplex me here, Dave, because it's true. Why is that like that? I guess JJ McCarthy, they don't have a lot of faith in the kid. I would, though, however, I'm going

to pick Baltimore. I mean, that defense for the Ravens, I know their pieces are back, so they're a different defense than they were three weeks ago, but still, they have not been over the course of a half season. World beaters plus four and a half because they're playing J.J. McCarthy, who looked good last time we saw. Yeah, but I don't know. That's a weird game. I probably would pick Baltimore just because I feel like Lamar Jackson can do Lamar Jackson things. But honestly, if I was like putting my money down, I'd probably stay away from these. Well, you can put your money down on there. By the way, from Kish, Mike Fuentes goes slang.

Lamar Jackson slang the ball. I'm not sure. I don't know if that's the correct. Why, is it slunged? He slunged it? I'm not sure. He threw the ball really well. How about that?

Four touchdowns against the dog. Tell you this much, whichever the two Twin Cities this game is played in, the home team is going to wind up on the right side of that plus four and a half. I don't know if I'm willing to call them an outright winner, but I think that number is too big. Next up, I would however take the under on that because I think that Minnesota defense is going to make life pretty difficult for Lamar Jackson with all the blitzing. And I think Baltimore is going to make their defense is probably going to make life difficult for JJ McCarthy. So I'll take the under on that. Maybe, but you know, the secondary of the Ravens, Kyle Hamilton's existence not

withstanding is their liability combined with their pass rush. So I could see, you know, the Vikings actually having a big offensive day. So from the grimace bowl, we go to the grimacing fans bowl. Boy, this is an all-timer. And I feel real sad for Browns fans. Not really. But the Browns are playing the Jets. I feel even worse for the Jets fans because they're at home are the Jets. And they're two and a half point underdogs to the Cleveland Browns. You can't get any lower. This is very, very sad stuff. Gino Fuentes, who are you taking in this all-time mess? I'm taking Cleveland here because the Jets just traded away two key defensive pieces

and that one might have been their only advantage in that game. And I think Cleveland is probably going to run all over New York now. Yeah, that's my answer. A big win for Dylan Gabriel. I'm going to pick the Browns too. I'm going with a final score of two to zero. Yeah, it's going to be bad. It's going to be hard to watch. Wait, do the Jets cover? I'm going to take

I'm going to take I mean I'll have a flip all time flip a coin I mean this is slowing down to look at a car wreck kind of kind of effect right I mean who can tolerate this game I'm glad it's in the early window

and the Steelers are on in prime time so I can really look at this one for a fair percentage of three hours here so I can sit there and laugh and feel better about my team next stuff I guess I should make a pick here. I'll take the Jets.

If you're putting money on this one, if you're looking to have your Kish on Sunday night because of this game, I don't know what to tell you. Looking to some help. Next up, the Jolly Green Giant Bowl, it's the Eagles, it's the Packers, the Packers at home, minus two and a half total at the time of this recording, 44 and a half. Mike, how say you?

I'm going to take the Eagles and the points here. I think the Tucker Craft injury is one that their offense is going to have a tough time rebounding from. And I don't think the defense is that good. I think the defense has been kind of like wishy-washy all year. Philly can be very methodical. They beat you up inside. So I'm going to take Philly and the points. I think everybody, when they look at pro football week to week, you react to what you just saw.

And so people are a little down on the Packers because they lost it home to the Panthers. But of course, they're human beings. And they could look at the schedule and say, at Pittsburgh, huge for Jordan Love versus Aaron Rogers. and LaFleur and all the rest of it. And then on the other side, we host the Eagles. All we have to do is get through the Panthers. They overlook the Carolina Panthers. That cost them.

They get right this week. They win that game outright. Gino, any thoughts on that one? I think the part of that Michael Parsons trade that stands out is that they made their interior defense weaker when they did that. And now Green Bay, like the way you beat the Philly defense recently is with the tight end down the middle of the field. And that's her graf's gone.

So I'm going to go with Philly. Okay. Next up, I mentioned the prime time game. It's the Pittsburgh Steelers against the Los Angeles Chargers in Seifide. The home team is laying two and a half. I'm going to take the Chargers in this one. Easy Peasy. I know the offensive line is in Tatters and the pass rush should feast for the Steelers. But I'm taking Justin Herbert in this one to outscore Aaron Rogers. Mike Fuentes. I'm taking Pittsburgh just because that will basically be a home game for your Pittsburgh Steelers in Los Angeles. Kind of will be. Yeah, I don't think I'm going to be in attendance. A lot of people have asked me. It's so hard getting out of SoFi, especially late on Sunday night. Next up, a team that plays in SoFi Stadium, except they're up in San Francisco or Santa Clara, I should say,

here's the other crazy line out there in my book. The Niners are plus four and a half. What are we talking about? The Rams are great, but they're not that much better, are they? Especially since the Niners own the Rams in this head-to-head coaching situation. Gino, which way are you leaning? I'm going to take Sam Fran here just because I think it'll be closer, like you said, but I'll take the over in this one because these two offenses,

even if it's McCorkel out there, they just laid up the scoreboard. I'm taking the Niners for the reasons I said. Shannie's own McVeigh throughout their careers. Lastly, number one here, it's the Pats, it's the Bucks, it's the Tom Brady Bowl, Buccaneers laying two and a half. I'm going with the Buccaneers at home. Mike Fuentes, bring it on home. I'm also going to take the Buccaneers at home.

I think this is probably one of the last really competitive games in doing the Patriots are going to play, and I think Tamara Bay is going to take advantage of it coming off the bye. All right. We had a lot to go. That's why our voices sounded like they were at two-time speed because we were talking a little more quickly because we had a grand time doing the mid-season awards.

Thanks to 10-day Tony and to Mike Ryan for making the time for that. And thanks to you for sticking with us here on Football America. Keep spreading the good word. Make sure you're downloading it, subscribing, all the rest of it. And until the other side of NFL, week 10. Thanks so much, football Americans. It's been a thin slice of heaven.