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Episode Date: November 7, 2024

How much would you pay to see a photo of Dan at the beginning of his career wearing suspenders and a pocket watch? Then, we discuss storylines from around the NBA including the Heat's loss to the Suns as Miami drops to 3-4 and the Warriors finding a new way to evolve their roster around Steph Curry. Plus, what is Jessica's assessment of the undefeated teams -- specifically BYU, Indiana, and Miami -- and where they're ranked? Dan has fallen in love with the IDEA of Indiana Football, and Jeremy compares UM to a certain program that went undefeated in 2017. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now, here's the marching man to nowhere,

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but I don't wanna leave a lot of meat on the bone from the last segment because Jessica told us and again some of the best show happening when we're not on the air where Jessica is saying yes You got to go dry the hands off on the pants the side of the pants is the way to go and Izzy's saying Just air dry them just air dry your hands entirely where you're spilling droplets all over. But it's clean droplets. The mirror. I don't know the right way to go on all of this.

That's what I thought the hand towels, the hand towels not embroidered, the smaller towels were for on the hands. Izzy, if you're out here shaking your hands like a Polaroid picture, better grab some paper towels and some Windex because I don't want all those water stains all over my mirror. Provide a hand towel, sir. I did. It's decorative. Put it on the pole, please, Juju at LeBotard Show. Better way to dry your hands. Air dry, shaking or side of the pants.

I think I'm going to surprise you guys with a choice that I was making initially in sports writing, a fashion choice that was a terrible one, and I don't think Izzy remembers this. He might be too young to remember this, but early days of sports writing, I was not only wearing suspenders, I was wearing a pocket watch that had the chain going from the belt loop to the pocket.

What era was this? Yeah. Okay, Mr. Monopoly. No, no, no, no, no. Settle down, back row. Let me tell you guys this, because my older brother was of this era. Did you also have a vest?

I did not have a vest. I wasn't working the rest. I was trying to figure stuff out in the 1920s. I was dating various flappers. You're lucky. It looks like the internet does not have any evidence of this. It was a dangerous time, man. I remember watching my brotherppers. You're lucky, it looks like the internet does not have any evidence of this. It was a dangerous time, man.

I remember watching my brother and I'm like, you doing this for real? And he's like, yeah, you know, he just like, he's like, yeah, that's the thing. But I could tell he wasn't sold on it. Dan, were you sold on it? I know, I was scared. I was trying to be different,

and it was outside of my personality. Now I'm picturing Dan in some of the actual outfits that were of like my era, like the overalls with the one strap on, one strap off. Like you had to rock that, dad. No, just suspenders. Call my mother, Chris, and see if she has anywhere, any of this.

The pocket watch was the greater offense. Both of them. And you kept it in the pocket, and then you occasionally pulled it out to check the time, or you hung it out of the pocket so people know you had it. That was, but you're gonna make fun of this. This was a gift from my late grandfather though, so it had, it had. A little.

A little, thank you. Papa, as you would say it if you were culturally appropriating it. Yes, but it was a watch that broke open and you just read the time. It was a circular piece. Did it play a nice song or anything? Did it have like a tick tick tick sound when you opened it?

No, it was not a song. It definitely ticked, come on. Did you also wear a wristwatch and have the pocket watch too or was it just the pocket watch? Did you occasionally hypnotize people with it? Do you think that there's a matching accessory of a wrist watch?

I think if you go pocket watch, it's a redundancy to have any other kind of watch. Tony just asked, did you also wear a belt with your suspenders? No. No, the suspenders were, they were acting, you thought it was just a fashion choice. No, they were serving the practical purpose

of holding up my pants, yes. The suspenders holding on for dear life. Why you gotta do that? Put it on the pole, Juju. Were Dan's suspenders holding on for dear life? Because they were. I wasn't buying the right size. I had weight fluctuations.

Was it digging into your shoulders? I mean, it was tight. It was like doing resistance bands. They were tight. No, they were tight. I was using them at the maximum, like, the allowed limits. I didn't know, you know, they came in different sizes. Not a lot of this move going on.

Where you're, like, stretching them out. No, it was chafing my nipples. All in the name of fashion. The things we do. High heels, you know, chafed nipples. You do what you got to do to look good. Would you dry your hands on the suspenders then? Is that why you brought it up?

I just couldn't believe that that's Jessica's move when what? When you're faced with a guest bathroom that... With no towel. You do a little quick pat dry on the hips. You pat the hips and then you walk out. Sometimes there's not a towel. Airport sometimes, no towel. I walk out like I'm a surgeon with my hands up like this.

Searching for the first napkin or something to dry my hands. You know what, the most overhyped thing, way of drying hands is those stupid little like air dryers. Like your hands are not dry after those things. They're so gross. It sprays back into your face. Like the water goes everywhere and you're not dry.

It's cool invention, but one of the dumbest inventions I've ever seen. Thank you, Tony, for saying that in my ear, because you guys know where the air is coming from, right? The air is coming from... No, people's ass farts. Like, now you've got someone like a bunch of people farting into a box, and it's like,

all right, we're gonna keep this air, we're gonna put it out. So you're in the bathroom, people are taking dumps. When they dump, because there's no lid to close it, they flush, particles are going up in the air. It's saturated with poop particles. It's not ridiculous. Roy told you this the other day.

I didn't even realize it until Roy said it. You have to shut the lid to the toilet when you flush the toilet. No, that part's true. I'm saying a means part here where that is the same air coming out at you when you're drying your hair. You think they've got like an air form somewhere else that they're blowing the air from?

They're just grabbing the air in the room and blowing it faster. That's all they're doing. It's like turning on a ceiling fan. It's not generating new air, it's just moving the air that's in here around. So in that theory, aren't we all? I don't think you know that.

I know that. You're just like. No, I mean, I think he's partially right. I mean, there's, one of the main things that stuck with me after COVID was the toilet plume. There was research done on the plume of particles that come out of the toilet after you flush in public, and that shit scarred me.

And I think it means right. I think it ends up in the air. I think it's getting sucked into the Dyson thing and sucked back out right in your face. Science. I have a number of things here from basketball that I wish to talk about because we have the Joker and Izzy and Amin here.

Let's just tackle first, please, the end of the Heat game last night. The Heat are now three and four. They've lost three bad home games to three playoff teams but middling playoff teams they haven't actually played any of the good teams yet until last night and then they lose at the end and can't get a shot off at the end and Jimmy declines to go for two when they're giving it to him and then

doesn't know what to do at the end of the game and it's botched as poorly as it can be botched at the end of that game so thoughts on where the Heat are seven games into a season where they've played yeah they've played Orlando and they played the Knicks and they played Sacramento and those teams are fine but I don't think any of us think of those three teams as champions and three and four when you've lost your home games against teams that are just okay and lost all of your home games not a that are just okay and lost all of your home games, not a great start to this trip on the West Coast.

Yeah, I mean this one was in Phoenix and at the end there with Jimmy Butler he needed a three so he's not supposed to take a two there. Didn't have any timeouts left. Their last couple losses have been frustrating against the Kings after having a lead in the second half and in this one after playing a pretty decent third quarter after just being terrible throughout the third quarters coming in, they are figuring things out. Like you saw even last night, they played both rookies, Pella Larsen and Kalel Ware,

and they both had a couple of moments, but it's clearly not the rotation Spoh is looking for. It's clearly not, if you look at the sort of styles they played from game one to now, they're still making adjustments there. I think in an odd way it's encouraging for this group to be close with these teams. I mean look at Phoenix. I think they've had one loss so far. So I don't think necessarily it's anything wrong with the group. I just think it's one of those things where if you just stare at Jimmy Butler and Bam Adebayo and look at their performances, you don't think,

hey, those two are going to carry me to a championship. Heat's last three losses, up 13 in the third quarter versus the Knicks, up 15 in the third quarter versus Sacramento, up 15 in the third quarter versus Phoenix. Those leads don't mean anything in today's NBA. Those are totally irrelevant leads at this point in the NBA. They mean something specific to the Heat, and it's something I've been talking about the whole time,

which is this team is offensively starved. What they're able to do offensively is nothing short of a miracle of excellent execution, a great coaching, but at the end of the day there is a stint in every single heat game where it's like, up! Can't score anymore because all the pretty offense can't get you a bucket when you really need it and that's why I keep saying they need somebody in there who just, just a walking bucket. I thought that was Terry Rozier. I thought that's what that was.

Well, that's the part that's interesting is the starting lineup has been pretty horrendous together. Well, that's what's happening in the third quarters. Yeah, and that's why last night actually, they took the lead in the third quarter. That was the difference between last night's game and the other two games when you look at those leads, is the leads in the previous two were big leads

that they had at the half and then proceeded to blow early in the third quarter and get blown out in the third. Last night, they made the adjustment, actually, of taking Niko Jovic out of that lineup, starting Haywood Highsmith, and they played great to start the second half. They played really good defense, it led to offense, all the things that they talk about.

To me, the interesting question for Spoh moving forward is what do you do not only to sort of solve some of the offensive woes of that group, but also what do you do to inject some offense off the bench? Because primarily right now the main lineup where it's hey one starter with a whole bunch of guys off the bench has been Jimmy Butler plus a whole bunch of guys off the bench. I wonder if the difference may be, does Terry Rozier potentially come out of that starting

lineup and become the guy of hey go be a looter in a riot against the other team's bench. Go get yours then, because right now, as the fourth option, they're essentially, we talk about there's only one ball to go around with some of these superstar teams that have three superstars offensively. This right now is a team where the starting lineup, it's only one ball to go around with four above average offensive players,

and they're just trying to figure out the best shot every possession. They should be more than one ball. But to a means point here, when you're talking about sort of an overwhelming offensive presence, the Heat don't have one, right? So far it feels like Tyler Hero has to be the guy, if he's good through the first three quarters,

hey, that's gotta be the guy late in the fourth, and nobody's gonna feel good about that. Nobody's gonna feel great about that in a close game. The idea with first three quarters, hey, that's gotta be the guy late in the fourth. And nobody's gonna feel good about that. Nobody's gonna feel great about that in a close game. The idea with this team is, hey, we've got so much variety on offense. It could be anybody in any given time. We could get hot for a game and boom, we're up by 20 in the fourth quarter.

We don't have to worry about that. But when it comes to that, Jimmy Butler does not look overwhelming offensively, Bam Adebayo does not, Tyler Hero does not, and certainly Terry Rozier does not yet. What's interesting about what you say there is Tyler has been as good to start this season as any season in his career. He's been efficient, he's shooting 45% from three,

he's been making all of the right reads offensively, and what has been interesting is here, at the end of these last couple of games, in those final possessions where you need a bucket or where in the final couple of minutes you need someone to initiate your offense, the ball has not been in his hands. It's been in Jimmy Butler's hands.

We know what the ceiling is on all of these players, okay? Bam has not been good early this season, so you can tell me all you want about Tyler Hero, but if Bam's gonna give me one game, one game in the first seven where he looks like anything that he's been, his career averages, he's giving you one game. Tyler Hero's not gonna compensate for that, so let me ask you about what is happening with the Miami Heat when I tell you, because they can sit here and say all they want, figuring

it out. They've lost to all the playoff teams they've played, and they haven't beaten anybody good since early last year. Like they don't they don't have a victory, a victory, where you're like oh I see what this team could be. It's all precipitous decline. It's all precipitous decline for a season and a half since Duncan Robinson got hurt. Like the offense looked good for a brief stretch and then it's been difficult offense since then what are people still telling me about their for elite offensive

players this team has been offensively constipated for more than a full regular season of sample size going on this is going to be the 3rd season of it I believe right so the season they lost in game 7 to the Celtics when Jimmy Butler missed the 3 at the end That was the last time this offense was like an elite offense. Struce and Vincent and whatever that team was shooting from three, was that the team that was the best offensive efficiency team that they had when they had Struce and Vincent shooting the three?

That was Lowry and Tucker, really. It was those guys coming off the bench in spurts, but that was was when that was the one really good Kyle Lowry season here in Miami and PJ Tucker being at sort of the height of his powers being opened up as a corner three-point shooter who was shooting about 50% from that corner. Stugatz here for my friends over at simply safe the holiday season is right around the corner that means you're away more and burglars know it that means you need to protect your home right now simply safe is giving exclusive early access to its Black Friday sale to Leviton Show listeners. SimpliSafe is the home security I trust to keep my home and family safe. SimpliSafe is a new way to protect your home that stops intruders before they break into your home.

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These five words in his head scream, are we winning games yet? This is the Don LeBathard Show with the Stugarts. We need some fiber on this team. Is there any fiber available in the trade market? Cause we're constipated. Yeah, we're constipated. We need some fiber on a fancy towel after. We need some prunes, some apple juice.

Apple juice? I used to, man, apple juice walks right through me. It walks right through you? It's like, if I'm ever in need, it's one of my go-tos. I don't think of apple juice as being in the category of prunes. Isn't prunes the ultimate, even more than fiber, the ultimate diuretic?

Dan, there's something about prunes. I don't know what it is. Obviously, I'm in the pregnant wife situation right now, and things are moving a little bit slower than usual. And then I told her, hey, why don't we use prune juice? She's like, no, I don't know. I don't think it's gonna work. We use prune juice, dude, next day, bam!

Diuretics make you pee, and careful, Chris, because this is a slippery slope leading to a photo of poop. Coffee, coffee? Not a big coffee drinker, I know that is a lot of people's go-to. I don't know, I don't drink coffee. All right, so what are the main diuretics? Because you guys went fiber very early there.

I think of other things. I think of prune juice, and I thought coffee. Oh, wait a minute, now you're going medicines. Yes. Well but. I mean. That kind of thing. I mean yeah, I mean a medicine.

A medicine that I think. Or Metamucil. Yes, thank you. Yes, any number of things that you could do. As you can see, I've researched a lot for this. To lubricate the tubes. I've got another one for you. Midnight milkshakes.

That's a terrible idea. Like that's just, no, you sleep poorly. It doesn't work, you just. Look, I missed a day of work because, or was I late? I believe coconut is a natural laxative, is it not? Coconut? Yeah, I think it's like cream to coconut, right?

Like pina coladas, apparently. I see oatmeal here. I mean, did miss a day of work because he had a milkshake at midnight. These are difficult problems. This is how mental arch media does it around here. He just missed the next day because he had a milkshake at midnight. These are difficult problems. This is how mental arch media does it around here. He just missed the next day because he had a milkshake at midnight

and he's here to tout the restorative effects of the milkshake at midnight. It'll help you go to the bathroom and then you go to the bathroom so much that you won't show up for work the next day. Okay, do you want a solution or do you want another problem? Maybe just a late night text from Dan Lebatard. That makes you-

It'll get the heat going From last night's Basketball games yes, you enjoyed what the most because it it brought me a blessed serenity to see somebody beat the Celtics It seems like it's been a while then it's not that they just beat them It's they kind of humbled them. It looked like, you know, yesterday on Oddball to preview the game, we did this little exercise where we're whispering advice into people's ears, right?

And so I whispered to Steph Curry's image. I said, this is what you gotta do. You gotta go out there and you have to remind these people, I own you. You are all my children. And lo and behold, he did it You got to go out there and you have to remind these people, I own you. You are all my children. And lo and behold, he did it and he didn't do it in the usual Steph Curry way of, you know, an amazing shooting display.

He did it moving the ball. He was so good passing. They were operating. This is well, I was very optimistic on what Golden State was going to be going into this year because I thought, look. You never stopped believing in them last year. You always expected Championship Pedigree to do something in the playoffs and become what they've become through eight games this season.

There's a difference between, I'm not counting them out, which is kind of like, look man, I've seen these guys do crazy things. And what they were going into this year, what they did in this off season, I was incredibly optimistic. I said, look man, yes, Golden State has been a dynasty on Steph Curry and Klay Thompson and Kevin Durant and Draymond Green and those guys. But there's another part of this where it's like,

their role players, their supporting cast was always top notch. It's always these high IQ guys that were really good players in another life, but they came here to be high IQ role players. Igwadallah, Sean Livingston, Leandro Barbosa, Andrew Bogut, David West. Like all of these dudes were just super tough,

super smart, knew how to play. And I thought that was so underrated about what they did, is that people thought, oh, it's just Durant and Curry and just give them any three guys, whatever. Like, no, no, no, no, it's not just any three guys. When they won the championship, they had a little bit of that with Bielica, with Peyton, with Otto Porter,

guys that knew how to play, right? And then they said, no, no, we're gonna go with the young guys. That's what happened the last couple of years. This year, they went back and they got some guys who know how to play. Buddy Heald, D'Anthony Melton, Kyle Anderson, last night, all of a sudden, now he's a three-point shooter?

What the hell? He had three threes in the row at one point. So when you bring that kind of supporting cast to the table, now you see, oh, Steph doesn't have to be Superman, he can just get in where he fit in. I mean, Steve Kerb played 11 guys in the first quarter, I believe, and that's without being fully healthy. Brandon Vajemsky wasn't there. Was that a troll job because Jason Tatum

was the 11th man on the USA team and he could have played everything. Was that a troll? Is that a troll? Is that an overt troll or is that just an Izzy theory? I want this, I want a new segment. Izzy's conspiracy theories or do you know this to be so? Are you volunteering this?

You've blown a mean's mind. A mean was watching. Do you know how rare it is for the arrogance of Amin to be like, I was watching that game and I didn't notice something that other people noticed. Never did that math. Is obviously Boston not at full strength. No Jalen Brown, no Porzingis. Do you see this as kind of like Golden State almost like evolving into a different offense? It's not different because it's the same offense, it's just there are new options available.

Because the offense itself is, when they run action, there's like five different things that could happen out of any of it, and that's what makes it hard to guard. The example I always give is like the Dreymon split cut where Clay screens for Steph, and how do you guard that? Because normally like, okay, stick with the shooter. Wait a second, they're both shooters.

So by the time you figured out, okay, this is what I do. You top block on this side, you come on the underside. Big man, you come up and show and help in any which way. What ends up happening is Draymond realizes, I have the ball and nobody's guarding me and he just turns around and lays it up. And that's the, to me, in a nutshell, that's the Warriors offense.

It's like, you're gonna be so confused spinning your head trying to stop every single opportunity that the most obvious thing, guard the ball, is going to elude you. When you look at all these players and their ability to score and move without the ball and screen and do all those things, that's kind of what the essence comes down to is that, oh, Steph doesn't have to be the focal point in terms of taking this shot.

There's going to be so much attention that everyone else is going to be as open as they've ever been in their life. In terms of projects we got going on around here, Amin Elhassen and Charlotte Wilder are doing a wonderful job covering all of your basketball needs, no matter how eccentric they might be. Oddball every day of the week, except one. You can guess which one it's not.

Jessica has been doing great stuff with Lucy on Gen CFB. You will hear some of that later in the show. And Billy and Stugatz have taken off for Arizona. They are in Arizona, they have landed, they are ready to get God bless football, percolating and echoing. Amin is as far away from them geographically as you can be while having a home in Arizona.

Chris Cross. So if you wanna spend time with Stugatz and Billy, let's give people the information here on what it is that they could do Sunday. Kickoff is at 2.25 local time. That's confusing to me. I don't know what to do with that. I see a local time 2.25. I'm like no football game has ever started. You got me used to London. I mean, but 2.25 is not a starting time for a football game that I know of, but evidently it is. It's one to six what they're doing.

That's the most important thing. I know, but it says kickoff 225. It's an odd detail. This is what I always say. I don't think we need to tell people what time kickoff is. They're football fans, they know. Understood, but I've never seen 225 as a time. I've seen 425, and I understand what's happening there.

425, 427 is a time, but it's a two hour. 225 isn't a time for anything. You go into a restaurant at 225 and it's empty. I don't know what 22 happening there. 425, 427 is the time, but it's a two hour. 225 isn't a time for anything. You go into a restaurant at 225 and it's empty. I don't know what 225 is. And let's remind people, Sunday Service is presented by Smirnoff. You can join them, like Dan said, at the Draft King Sportsbook and TPC Scottsdale.

Jets Cardinals kick off once again at 225, streaming live on DLS YouTube. You must be 21 or older to go. Man, you really petered out there is he Staring at you and you're leaking confidence Confidence that's like that's like I'm delivering that like at 21 or older like that's not petering Oh, that's like that was you that's craftsmanship You were nailing the day. You think you were Simone Biles.

Streaming live on DLS YouTube, or you must be 21 or older. That is not petering out. I think we should play it back in the next segment, and we should all vote on it. We will listen to it. Put it on the poll though, Juju, at LeBittard Show. Is 2.25 p.m. time for anything?

Because I think we really- Time for bed. I think we found a hole in the universe nobody does anything at 225 on any day there's no appointed thing at 225 in the history of time except for NFL football in Arizona that's all we've got speaking of football Jess I've been remiss here I have gotten to Thursday without talking seriously about college football this week. There were a few distractions this week that prevented us from talking about anything involving the rankings. I don't know how you feel about anything.

What kind of expertise can you give us on who's outraged and who's not? Because I missed it with everything else that was happening Tuesday night. Um, I think generally the consensus is that it's only the first ranking. So don't get too outraged yet. Lucy and I will break down, uh, some of the Indiana Penn state, uh, BYU reactions on gen CFB, which will be a little bit later in the show. Um, but I think that was sort of it. It was like the undefeated teams that, you know, Indiana and BYU, namely not being ranked a little bit higher, they were unhappy, but both of those teams, I think that was sort of it. It was like the undefeated teams that, you know, Indiana and BYU, namely, not being ranked a little bit higher, they were unhappy. But both of those teams, I think,

will get a chance to move up the rankings as teams ahead of them have to lose because they'll be playing other ranked teams or as the season goes on and they, like Indiana has to play Ohio State next week. So I think it might work itself out. The assessment on these teams with the schedule that they've played

helped me because this is just It's a cursory analysis by me that Pittsburgh was a fraudier unbeaten Than Indiana is as an unbeaten that Indiana is something closer to Miami as an unbeaten Where there are questions and there are doubts But people are ready to understand that this, BYU even more so because there aren't questions about their schedule the way that there is about Indiana and Miami.

Well yeah, so BYU has ranked wins over SMU and Kansas State versus Indiana who doesn't have one of those wins yet, but they've been winning all their games by like mostly double digits. So I think that you know there's a it's an interesting question of like if they the committee values the close wins over ranked teams more so than like blowing out a lot of teams on your schedule. I think Pitt did

have a harder strength of schedule than Indiana but Pitt also lost last weekend to SMU so it's almost like and they still have to play Clemson which Clemson lost to Louisville so I don't know. I'm talking about fraudy unbeatens I'm talking about national perception on fraudy unbeatens because Miami's got the top five ranking but if I'm Indiana or BYU I can make the argument that my schedule is at least that strong. BYU can't. Indiana can't. I think Louisville beating Clemson though is like an important key. Beating Clemson is an important key to that because Miami beat Louisville earlier this season.

But also like if it comes down to an ACC championship game, they're going to have a win over probably a highly ranked SMU team if SMU continues to win out. So yeah, I mean again again, it's like, I understand why the committee puts out rankings this early in the season because I think it's good to see like the sort of pattern making and like the thought process behind it so that when the day the season ends,

we don't just say like, wait, why is Tennessee in the top five? This makes no sense. But imagine if we did. This is what I loved about the final, when it was the semi-finals, is just, let's announce on the last day. Now imagine nobody has any idea and there are 12 teams

and they wait for the last day. But they've been doing this for as long as there's been a 14 playoff. Like the ranking show. Yeah, no, and I've always said, what if we just got rid of all of them until the last week and then, wow, everybody finds out all at once and there is no tease.

Like it's. I think, I mean, the whole thing exists for television ratings, right? Like sports in general. Like we all. What do you mean? It's a great television product, so they're able to make a show every Tuesday where they're like, watch the show about the show

that we're gonna have later this year, about the show that is the football game. So like, yeah. But I also think that it is sort of like, helpful for fans to know what the thought that is the football game. So like, yeah. But I also think that it is sort of like helpful for fans to know what the thought process is going back to the first week of November, even though none of this might matter in four weeks. Like, in fact, most of it probably won't matter

because Alabama and LSU, they play each other this weekend. Indiana plays Michigan this weekend. Like there's going to be changes immediately. Folks, the NBA is finally back. A new season means new ways to get in on the action at DraftKings Sportsbook, an official sports betting partner of the NBA. Who's draining threes from beyond the arc?

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Michael Penick introduced me to the idea of Indiana can be good at football, can be good at offense. I had no experience with that in my lifetime. Indiana's game logs, when you look at them, what are their close games? Because there's one thing that Miami is doing while barely beating Virginia Tech, while barely beating California. I don't think there's a barely beating in Indiana's schedule, but I haven't checked the game logs. It's just every time I look up, they've got 50 and someone's not close to that. Yeah, I think their closest game was against Washington

when their quarterback was out with an injury. So yeah, they've been kicking ass. I think this is also, though, a product of the preseason rankings having a strong influence on how people view teams, even late in the season, where you would expect preseason rankings by week five, who cares? But no, I think if Indiana comes into the season where you would expect like preseason rankings by you know week five who cares

But no, I think like if Indiana comes into the season ranked top 15 They're undefeated and they're going to be a lot higher than they are now It's also really hard to like preseason rankings are Hard to do especially with a team like Indiana that has a first-year head coach that brought 14 transfers from his last school with him and a transfer quarterback from a Mac team who was good, especially a couple years ago, but we're not sure if he's gonna be awesome at Indiana.

And so how do you evaluate that in the off season? It's really, really hard to do that. And also, obviously, as we've always talked about, there is a sort of name brand recognition that goes into ranking in college football, because you know which schools and which programs spend the most money on their teams, and so you sort of give deference to them,

whether or not you should. That happens with the rankings. Paul, the more reason to wait for all rankings until the last week of the season, but wouldn't that, if you're Indiana, or if you're trying to figure out who the fake frauds are, Dan, wouldn't it be more leaning toward Indiana because it Seems system is what they're relying on not player versus Miami who seems to be relying more on player

I want to go all in on Indiana just because they feel a little bit to me like central, Florida a few years ago Where everyone's like how can they possibly be any good? But they keep showing you every week that they're good and they might stumble into being better than everybody because they've beaten everyone they've played this year by at least two touchdowns. You knew Indiana was gonna be good when Kurt Signetti was like, I win, Google me. The vibes were through the roof at that point.

I was like, hey, there's something there. Bloomington, right, Indiana? Yeah, Bloomington. There's something there. It's a very nice college town, very pretty. Priya went there. Sure, I almost went there. Priya.

I think the frustration, though, Dan, is that can Indiana afford to lose to Ohio State? I will find out. Penn State probably can, and that is frustrating if you look at their schedule comparison. Penn State has played a lot closer games with competition that they should be blowing out, which Indiana

has done. So I think that's sort of what Indiana fans are more frustrated at. Isn't it weird, you know, you mentioned UCF, but usually when we have this kind of school that's an outsider to the party that's doing well, they usually play in a crappy conference and that's why, right? But Indiana plays in the Big Ten. So they're playing not the same schedule but a similar schedule to all the other blue bloods in the Big Ten. So they're playing, not the same schedule, but a similar schedule to all the other blue bloods in the Big Ten. People are waiting for them to play the best teams in the conference though.

They're not playing the best teams in the conference. And it's not a strong top to bottom conference, it's a top heavy conference. I mean, yes and no. It is interesting. So they'll play Ohio State in two weeks. They play Michigan this weekend. Michigan's a team that has really good players

but has been a weak team this year. They have a quarterback situation that they've been struggling with all season. They don't really have a real starting downfield passer that they trust. So they've been doing weird things with the quarterback position. They've got a lot of players on their defense out.

Their defense is still really good. So even though though Indiana is a 14.5 point favorite, I think the margin of victory if they do beat Michigan will matter. But if you say, yeah, they haven't played anyone yet, well, Penn State didn't really play anyone until last weekend either. They beat Illinois earlier in the season, 21-7, which looked good at the time, but now Illinois has gone on a downward skid towards the end of the season. Whereas also, if you compare head to head, Ohio State played against Nebraska last weekend, it was a very close game. Indiana blew them out, like 56 to 7, I think the final score was. So, there is some comparisons. I'd love Indiana to surprise everybody.

But the transitive property doesn't work in college football, because schemes matter, and coaching matters. Sure. If Indiana undresses Michigan, no matter how bad they are this year, people will start paying more attention to whatever this is, that we maybe got it wrong all season since before the season on Indiana, because we're just not used to Indiana being any good.

Isn't that 14 and a half point spread pretty telling also? I think the idea that people don't believe in Indiana is going to be something that permeates the nation I think the idea that people don't believe in Indiana is going to be something that permeates the nation in football until Indiana actually holds up several trophies. I don't think people will believe that Indiana is a national elite at football until several championships

after they've won the championship. That's why when you bring up UCF, to me, when I watch this season, Miami is closer to that 2017 UCF team than Indiana is. We're talking about basically 2017 UCF with a good PR agent because they are absolutely. Is that Mike? I'm not gonna say it.

Well I think Miami, like Miami, at this point in the season, like the three lost Louisville team is now ranked. Maybe they will lose a couple games and be unranked when the season ends, but. Let my boy cook here, he's ripping Miami. I get what you're saying. Look, they have a couple of good wins against okay teams

in a conference that is clearly not the SEC or the Big Ten as we look at the state of college football. You see a team going undefeated in a mediocre conference with a great quarterback, an incredible offense, a defense that gives up so many points that you're in every single game in the fourth quarter, but you're undefeated. A win's a win.

And to me, I will cape up for this Miami team to be in the top four of those rankings because they deserve it. Because guys, winning every single game, no matter how bad your conference is, is very difficult. You can disparage it all you want. I don't even care to argue about whether or not

the University of Miami is actually excellent. You cannot argue with me that they're uninteresting. Like you will not be able to argue that it's an uninteresting team. It's a fun team and I figure that a means in town only because the highlight of his football existence, I believe, was as a Georgia Tech alum last year showing up and ruining Miami's season

because they couldn't beat your beloved Yellow Jacket. The highlight of my football existence post- existence post college, right? Like when I was in college, Calvin Johnson was there when you were in college. I was Joe Hamilton and you know, there's one, there's white. That's my era back then. But we were, we were top five in the nation. We lost a close game in Florida state at Tallahassee where Peter Warwick was just incredible. It was a time. That was definitely the heyday. But this weekend, I was supposed to go to home.

It's homecoming at Georgia Tech. I was gonna go. Miami can lose that one, man. Miami can lose that one. Can lose it. Where's my camera? I'm guaranteeing it. No. Yeah.

No. Yes. No. Yes. It's not gonna happen. Guys. Got the shorts on too. Jessica's on record is saying Miami's going undefeated that schedule is too easy No, no, well guess what it gets a little harder on Saturday Not that much harder because Georgia Tech's five and four not that good doesn't matter. We weren't that good last year either That's actually that's your best argument. Yeah, but Kim Ward didn't Then he's in for a rude awakening. Okay, regardless.

Wow! Yes. A rude awakening. A rude awakening has been officially declared. There it is, the face of rude awakening. If he has a milkshake at midnight, be careful in the morning, rude awakening. Has the show figured out where hay day has come from?

What is that? What is the hay day? Is there a day when horses get hay? Is it hay? Is it horse related, horse feeding time? It's not spelled H-A-Y. What is a hay day then? I don't know, but it's not.

The critic doesn't have the solution. He only has the mockery. The critic doesn't have the answer. He just knows my answer's wrong. I'm throwing a guess into the wind. You know what, I'm gonna go with, I should yes and this. Yes, that's exactly it. The horses created the term.

It's like, hey guys, you know what today is, what? It's heyday, oh! The horses are getting, and like what? They're like dancing, I'm picturing a horse like doing like in the Olympics. On two minds. Trying to self-match. Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike, guess what day it is.

It's heyday. All right, you guys. Let's go, we're getting to this. You guys wanna hear before we get to the heyday, you wanna hear whether or not Chris Cody was indeed pet's go, we're getting to this. You guys wanna hear before we get to the heyday, you wanna hear whether or not Chris Cody was indeed petering out while he was trying to read? You peter in, cause that's what I did here.

I'm like Ryan Seacrest in this clip. You think this is you perfect broadcasting? Kick off once again at 2.25, streaming live on DLS YouTube. You must be 21 or older to go. That is a- Nailed it, dude! That is like a floor routine that is just a bit of a shake. I heard a little shake at the end. 21 or older or like it's just that is just perfect.

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