The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: 4.5 Minutes of Indianapolis Colts Talk

Episode Date: July 17, 2025

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Shop online and get $15 in PC optimum points on your first five orders. Shop now at nofrills.ca. Welcome to the Big Sui, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.

I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar. This episode is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings, the crown is yours. I'm going to combine two subjects here that people are tired of hearing me talk about,

so I'm giving you the spoiler alert and the warning that this is both about comedy and sports media. Both of the things, as Dave Portnoy and Barstool try to help what has been, at Fox, a sports dumpster for a while, now they're FS1, and a college show that is getting a rocket ship of popularity and is the only thing I've ever seen challenge college game day because at least in part there is a shift in this country

politically where young men want something and young men are a really coveted demographic and young men have changed who gets to be popular in comedy right now so that the jokes made last night by a diluted comedian diluted by network in time by constraints gave you his edgiest that Takes out hacky takes takes out gay, black, WNBA, but is edgy, not as edgy as he is, as the only comedian I see going right now who has popularity, who has been using gay as a slur for a long, long time and is the only one I've seen get away with it.

So that's what you're hiring, right? The one, he's not really from, he's not from the Manosphere and he's not, he's kind of Rogan adjacent, but he's not one of the Rogan comedians who everyone gets mad at for changing comedy with young people because they're not as funny as some of the others. I think he's from both. Shane Gillis is not viewed as the same as some of the other Rogan guys that are viewed as less less funny less good than the highest end of comedy shame at like jorgen's not respected uh... as a comedian is respected as a grinder was not respected as the highest end of funny is a easily great a lot of different things

funny is about among the funniest people they look at him as less good than they are and he is birthed a lot of comedians that other the other great comedians are like those guys aren't as funny as the funny is but shane gillis if he is birthed a lot of comedians that other the other great comedians are like those guys aren't as funny as the funniest but shane gillis if he is from that world he's the best of it and last night we can agree right that some of those jokes are just super easy right there to their lazy jokes right we're not

we're not in disagreement about that are we i'm just watching you dig now uh... so here's sarah spain and i know Spain, and I know Sarah Spain has been used and weaponized and turned into an avatar for some form of, oh, women are going to be so serious about this that they're not going to let it be funny. They're not going to let us be funny. They're not going to let the boys be funny anymore in twenty twenty five so she writes in a year crazy growth for women's sports choosing an sb's host

who doesn't even try to make clever jokes about women athletes he at least attempted for them up for the men he goes with hacking no one knows the w n b a bits and repeatedly insults black women cool the choice you're making with shane gillis is that you need his popularity because award shows aren't what they were I don't even know what the rating on that was but whatever the rating was was helped by Shane Gillis being there because that event Has not that that event for even comedy has been diluted since Norm McDonald went there one of Shane Gillis is heroes and Changed how they chose hosts forevermore

because they didn't want to upset the athletes and Stugats. Like, I can't tell you how hard this part is. These comedians need crowd energy. They need a good crowd. He's on a giant stage. He's in a suit he looks uncomfortable in. He's being formalized and introduced to people when the reason he's popular

is because he looks like an everyman. I mean, he's funny too, but he looks the part he look like you don't at first people didn't even know what his politics were Didn't know whether he was making fun of the right or being in bed with the right. They still don't sometimes no I think that's accurate Equal opportunity guy. I mean you also have to keep in mind how we burst on the scene for a lot of people to keep in mind how he burst on the scene for a lot of people. Yeah, canceled. He was canceled by SNL and then turned it into starring and hosting for SNL not that long after.

But you understand he's a symbol and an avatar for the times, correct? Like young people get to decide what's popular in this country. They always have and they always will. They have more time than everyone else and they will make tomorrow's stars. Shane Gillis is as big as anyone in comedy right now. He's got a pretty smart tact, and he does nothing to dissuade certain people's perception of him,

even though that doesn't necessarily match his own personal convictions. He tries to find the funny in everything. But he's very smart to not turn off his base that may not exactly know what his deal is. The late Norm MacDonald, you know how much we loved him around here, he was on a few times, you can get that Black Jack story for me because he was a degenerate gambler,

he went broke several times, and other comedians really admired him because he was entirely fearless. Fearless about bombing, liked sinking into the discomforts like making an awkward even at the espy's i'm gonna say that uh... last night might have been harder for shane gillis and saturday night live last night might have been harder for shane gillis than just about anything he has tried to do

uh... since he got popular because of the pressure of playing to that particular crowd filled with people that he admires because he's the guy who likes to get drunk at Notre Dame games like he's got a lot of respect for athletes and To be in front of them joking with them sort of odd right because he's got to be Shane Gillis has to go into that saying to himself as a sports fan Can you believe I've gotten here that I am making these jokes for these people that I am thrilled to be meeting backstage. But then you go awkward, then you go upsetting,

you know you're gonna upset some people. And I thought he rushed through his clothes, which was meant to be as a celebration of Norm MacDonald. And many people were being introduced to this joke. When Norm MacDonald told this joke the first time He was doing so to Ken Griffey Jr. John Elway and a whole bunch of people who were not smiling at all when Norm McDonald Told this joke at Charles Woodson's expense, but Shane Gillis just I mean if you're gonna accuse him of a hack

Punctuating this particular routine by just stealing Norm MacDonald's joke, telling it less well and too quickly so many years later, that's not the punctuation I'm guessing he was going for. If he thought he was doing a Norm MacDonald bit by upsetting a local audience of sports heroes that weren't having it. There's one thing I wanna say before I get out of here, and this is a dumb joke, you guys aren't gonna like it,

but it was, it's just a Norm MacDonald joke that I loved when he owes to the ESPYs, and I'm going to do it now. Travis Hunter won the Heisman Trophy this year. He's the first defensive player since Charles Woodson to win the Heisman. Congratulations Travis Hunter, winning the Heisman, that's something they can never take away from you unless you kill your wife and a waiter. In which case, they can take that away from you well see a lot of you don't like me and that's okay that's it for me

that went about is exactly how we all thought it was gonna go so now that I'm done pontificating on because I do want to talk about the media portion of this because Barstool and FS1 getting partnership is an interesting development, but I wanted to ask the group, where are we on funny, on what's allowed, on how do you go to the edge at 5 p.m. on ABC and manage to do an artful comedy routine

that just everyone says you killed it. Is that even possible? I'm dead serious about this. He's getting a lot of fanfare. I didn't watch it. I've only digested the clip, so I haven't seen the whole cadence of everything. Even there, I didn't think it was Rush.

I think that was a proper homage and his kind of uncomfortable and his own skin type of delivery. And I thought he did well with it because that was a tribute joke. Uh, just for the modern era. Seems as though it's being pretty well received. You're never going to get universal praise on a comedian. There's people that like them, people that don't like them. And that's fine. Like that's what life is.

You get to pick the people that you find are funny. And then the people that you don't find funny, you complain about. And that's what life. I don't. the people that you find her funny And then the people you don't find funny you complain about and that's what life I don't I think Sarah Spain gets to decide that for me, and if she tells me not to laugh at something I'm not laughing at it period end of discussion. I'm not pissing her off smart Well, but I think that's the public take and then in private you have your private stuff said you're not there to see it I'm not exactly right. I'm not look to see it. I'm not. That's exactly right. I'm not, look, okay, hold on, I'm sorry. This puts you in a tough spot. Time to drive away the journalistic credibility

and get red-players. Here is something we like to call reckless speculation. Stay strong, Stu. You're good. I am not alleging at any point that Stu Gotz has said anything in private about Sarah Spane or her politics that would make this speculation to have any.

Trying to make the situation worse. The clarification makes it worse. That's not what this segment's about. I'm not to laugh, I don't laugh. I'm saying on the front end that I have no proof whatsoever that Stugatz has ever felt or said any of the things that I'm about to say. I mean, you're the worst friend. You're an absolute PR nightmare.

Oh my God. He just, he just. That made me say you're good. Well, here's the thing. Well, that's the awkward spot I was saying I was putting you in. The spot I was saying I was putting you in was that you had to say you're good to me

when you weren't gonna want to allow what it is that i'm about to say but i want to make clear stugatz has never ever once said anything about anyone's politics privately but what he just said i'll let sarah spain decide for me what i can laugh at i don't believe is true in private. And so that's what I'm questioning that perhaps... You'll never know. I feel like I do know. Oh my God, he knows.

Will inform. I do feel like you will not allow Sarah Spain... Gut feeling? You will not allow Sarah Spain pain. Gut feeling? You will not allow Sarah's pain to decide what you laugh at miserably, reflexively, instinctually. The part we can agree on, I hope, well, maybe we can't agree on it. Maybe we can't agree on it.

Carl Anthony Towns, Hey Girl. What's clever about that? Nothing. Like what, what, you're, and Carl Anthony Towns, what's, what, how does that make gay people feel? How does that make Carl Anthony Towns feel? Like what, what's clever about that? Like, it, it, the point, the point of that.

The point is the audacity. No, the point of that is just to stand, it's just to stand on the edge, to be provocative, just to provoke. It's not. Yeah, are you not familiar with stand-up comedians? That's what they, that's what they do. provoke. It's not. Yeah, are you not familiar with stand-up comedians? That's what they do.

It's not a game. Gets the people going. Yeah. Does it? Yeah. It's provocative. Yeah, you're talking about it now. Quite frankly, people can accuse podcast hosts

of just being provocative for provocative sake. We receive that all the time. I am talking about the thing that was in sports last night at an award show dressed up as art on the slowest day of the year presented to us by Disney as celebration of the middle of summer through comedy arts entertainment and celebration I don't think anyone thinks of the SPS that way yeah I mean art comedy sports celebration time until we get back to sports yes exactly people in a room.

The revenue generators. What can we sponsor against this? It lets throw ourselves a party. It's not, I mean, the people vote on it. You know, it's just there as entertainment, like most award shows are just totally fabricated. It's their sues. Yeah.

Howdy, folks. It's Mike Ryan. If you were listening to the show just a couple days ago, you know that Jeremy came up with the top five. Breath of fresh air type of list, a really refreshing feeling. And on that list, Jeremy, help me out. I mean, that first sip of a Miller Lite at the barbecue on a hot day, crack it open, not a lot of feelings better.

That sound ultra satisfying. And then that first sip, it hits. And yes, while it's hot outside as it is presently cools your body down, it hits a little different down here in South Florida. But as someone that had Miller Lite north of the border and basically football tailgates as the leaves turn, there really isn't a bad time to turn into Miller time. Next time we should do a top time to turn into Miller Time. Next time we should do a top 5 times to have Miller Time. I like where your head's at because it's every time. That's right.

Every time. Morning time, well scratch that. Nah, morning time. Morning time if you need it. If you're on vacation. If you're on vacation. If you're on vacation. If you're in a morning tailgate, there's a noon game.

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your eyes one more time there's gonna be a problem. A big problem. And she said, really? what are you gonna do? Stugats. Oh god damn. I mean that's where I didn't have an answer. This is the done libertar show with the Stugats Let's play old faces new places for a game that I've been promising here for about 24 hours. We're finally getting to it. This is the Stu Gatts wheelhouse. I wanted to wait till he got here

in order to play it. Gentlemen, welcome to Old Faces New Places. Maybe if you haven't been paying attention to the NFL transaction wire, as some of us have, there's a lot of new faces, old faces in new places. We're gonna start easy, and then we're gonna work our way down to a little bit harder. Every player you've heard of is on a different team than they were prior.

Okay, so you're saying the name or guessing the place? Exactly right. Got it. Ooh, well we could name a place and try to guess the name. Like it. All right, we're gonna start here this one's gonna be easy where is Joey Bosa right now Joey I know the answer I think I know what I'm gonna write it down to yeah I think Mike's got it yeah Joey Bosa former charger Stu where do you think Joey Bosa is? Buffalo. Yep. Oh, hell yeah. They needed a big swing.

Chris, you got the fanfare there? Or do we just want to keep going? OK, all right. Cool. I mean, that's the same thing as a podcast game, so it's all good. Where is Daniel Jones? Oh, Danny Dimes.

I do know this one. Danny Dimes. Where is Danny Dimes? I was ashamed to say that I didn't know where Joey Bosa was. I'm thinking most people do know that, though. Mike got it wrong. You've been busy doing Hallmark. Mike just wrote it down, and he's wrong, though.

Now he's got it. OK. The only reason I know where Daniel Jones is is because even if you're listening to this and don't know where Daniel Jones is, I want you to imagine where I'd have to put Daniel Jones for you to think he has a chance to be good. Now you're doing it.

That bleeds into another topic. We got another top five. But it's why he chose where he chose because he thought the same way you did whatever team it is that you would go to. If you thought Daniel Jones would be good there, where would that be? He is an Indianapolis Colt. Right behind Anthony Richardson.

Oh yeah, side by side really. He's known to miss some time here and there. What was your favorite memory of him in a Vikings uniform? Microdom Vikings and Bastidon. I had him as a Viking. I was not having him as a Colt there with that intro. I thought he was with the Vikings. Yeah, yeah, forgot about him about him signing with the Colts.

All right, guys, next one here. We're going to get a little bit more tough. Tight end who had a good season, good couple of seasons in Jacksonville, Evan Ingram. Where is Evan Ingram right now? I've got no idea. Where is Evan Ingram? No, he's shocked.

Who spends bad money? The Chargers needed weapons. Not a Charger. Evan Ingram. Right, you're getting close in the division though. Carolina? No, think AFC West. Ooh, did they get an A- from ESPN? Possibly, I don't know.

Sam Garland? Evan Ingram is a Bronco, ladies and gentlemen. They got an A from Sam Garland. Evan Ingram is a Bronco, ladies and gentlemen. They got an A from Sam Garland. An A for Evan Ingram. Where is Mac Jones? Evan Ingram, incidentally. Is he a Jag?

Is Evan Ingram looks the part? Yeah, he is. Is Evan Ingram looks the part? Yeah. Oh, no doubt. Looks the part Hall of Fame. Yeah. Yeah. Easily. I got this one.

Mack Jones, where's Mack Jones today? I know this one. Mack Jones, boys. Where is he? Can I drop a hint? Yeah. It was rumored that this head coach was infatuated with him during the draft process. He was heavily linked back then.

Sam Fran? Yep. I mailed it. Here's a name that everybody knows. It's a long one, I don't know what happened there. Where is Cam Akers, boys? Cam Akers. CFL. Tough Runner. Tough Runner came back from an Achilles injury faster than anybody on the planet.

Cam Akers. Cam Akers, Cam Akers. He could be anywhere. Feels like a giant. No, he's not there, he's not in Chicago. Just throwing a dart. Just the name Cam Akers. Feels like a giant. Cam Akers, so you're saying you don't know anything

about this person except their name suggests to you that they would be an ogre or a giant. I just know, I can just picture them signing with the giant. He can picture the blue helmet with the blue jersey I did not Bad money physical giant. I'll give you guys another guest this team spends terrible money and they're in a terrible situation The saint he's a saint. He's a New Orleans Saint Dan. Oh, all right last one here. Hmm. Actually, I'm gonna do two rapid fire Where is where is Hunter Renfro?

Back in the NFL. Where is he? He's gotta just be always a Patriot. He was out of the NFL? Yeah, out of the NFL for a year. I had no idea. Mike is locked in guys. I had no idea Hunter Renfro had been out of the NFL

the entire year. I did not know that. He's got a giant head. He's a Carolina Panther. Really? Ooh, little weapon. All right, a giant head. He's a Carolina Panther. Really? Ooh, little weapon for sure. All right, last one here. This is a bigger name. Where's Tyler Lockett?

Ooh. Ooh. Oh, I know this one. He'll always be a C. Seahawk great, Seahawk legend. They're gonna retire his jersey. Where is Tyler Lockett? He feels like a giant.

He goes, I think he signed where wide receivers go to die and end their career. Dang. The Jets. Do you guys understand? Not remotely close. That we could play this game He goes, I think he signed where wide receivers go to die and end their career. The Jets. Do you guys understand? Not remotely close. That we could play this game again and I'd still get them all wrong?

I forgot where Bosa plays. He's a Tennessee Titan. He's a Tennessee Titan. Lock it? Yeah. Wow. Really? So it wasn't football homework Dan was doing.

No, no. Chris Cody, yes, I noticed that you didn't have any helpful answers and didn't speak at all with any guesses. The dude. He knows. He knows before it happens. The dude doesn't have to do it.

Doesn't have to take a quiz. I'm watching on television here as I see poor Dominique Foxworth try to fill time. And the question on the screen was the following, what will determine the winner of Ohio State Texas week? Oh wow. It's coming up soon, man. Oh yeah.

Give it to me. Six weeks. And- Raw dog me with football. Well, this is the thing that's happening around here because- Down the club? The reason I bring it up is because- It's my new podcast.

Tony came in today and He wants to do something that is tickling Stu gots and I feel like the whole thing is because you guys Have some sort of football itch that's happening here Tony is wanting to do a top five list and I don't want to do it because I felt like our top five lists are meant to be at least light and funny in some ways and he just wants to do top five NFL MVP flyers. Oh I love that. Yeah it's flyer season man.

Raw dog meat with fire. We're here in July okay. That's when you start looking up at the season you're saying who could be an MVP that I can get some value on, throw a little dart against the board and see who's who. You're just starting to take a peek. That's all. I mean, that's what you do. And listen, it is flyer season because you'll never get a better price than you'll get right now. Exactly. If I throw this dart and it lands, I'm seeing who's who. Yeah. Who's who in the MVP race in the NFL in July. What prices we can get. Me and Stu

collaborated on this top five Stu do you want me to go first? Well, just hold on first The seeing who who What do you think we're gonna be seeing now? First of all that throw a door that expression right? We've covered that already the seeing who's who. That statement is stupid.

That statement, I'm not saying. It's not stupid, you're stupid. Yep. We will not be seeing anything, but this really just is, you guys understand that this game isn't clever, it's not fun. It's just Tony wanting to be able to tell you. I told you so five months from now because somebody's having a decent season. I think it's two of those three things with the names on these lists. I

will be telling you. I told you so guarantee that he will stay quiet, not be held accountable. quiet and not be held accountable. Mm-hmm. All right, starting off at number five, no OLI. We're getting straight to it. This is a top five list of NFL MVP flyers. Stu, I'm going to go first. I'm going to take Michael Penick's Jr.

Like it. I'm going to see what's going on with Michael Penick's Jr. as NFL MVP. Comes in his sophomore season, had a good end of the season last year, builds up on some stuff. You know, it could be interesting. Mm-hmm, it could be. Has anyone thrown better incompletions in the history of the NFL than Michael Pennings Jr.? I mean, he looks good when he's not completing passes.

Number four. Carolina, their quarterback, got off to a rocky start, had a great second half. Adam Thielen said he would have retired. Told me that in Tahoe if he didn't think this guy had MVP potential. Number four, Dan, Bryce Young. I love that. I didn't realize this was a duel list that you guys were doing. Yes, collaboration. I didn't realize that that was the two of you working on something now if Adam Thielen knows anything about the Carolina Panthers He knows exactly the status of that locker room because the previous time that we played with him in Tahoe

He said you know what drew me to Carolina the coaching staff that was later blown out in seven weeks But we know who has the wherewithal, so we're okay. Dave Kamalas. I think that Stugatz has only selected that because Stugatz remembers and is willing and ready to club me over the head with me announcing last year that Bryce Young was done as an athlete. And then what happened?

And then what happened? Andy Dalton got into a car accident. That's why I slaughtered him at four. Dan, he came back. He looked bigger We always got that to hang our hat on man. He looks bigger what happened there line starts behind Dan No, got some of that ecblat All right number three guy. We didn't see last year but could come in I don't know if he can win rookie of the year because he's not a rookie anymore but hasn't played JJ McCarthy. He has weapons. Kevin O'Connell starts

putting things together. Justin Jefferson. JJ McCarthy little flyer yeah on draft King Sports but I think he's like he's like 1500 to 1. Well that that's a good bet just because if Sam Darnold can look like that. Yeah yeah Iarnold can look like that there. In that offense with that coach. I'm sorry, I just can't shake how Jim Harbaugh hit him. That one's always going to be weird with me. How can it not be weird to watch in that conference, Urban Meyer win with his third string quarterback,

the National Championship, and Jim Harbaugh have so much success with an undefeated team, the best in Michigan history, that the entire season he had a first round quarterback that he purposely hid because he did not trust him to be a first round quarterback. Except for at the end of the Ohio State game where he needed him that one time for six seconds. And it was a better catch.

Yeah. It was a better catch than throw. Yeah. Catch was incredible. But there's another one, Drew Aller. And you understand by looking at him, why people think that he's a future number one pick, but you know, play an orange bowl and complete a pass to a wide receiver, complete a pass or a wide receiver in a game.

To the point that you just made though on JJ McCarthy, honest to God, I'm trying to find precedent for where it is and when it is. I've seen that happen. It can happen that a Josh Allen is somebody who's a first round pick and none of us have seen him play, but it's never none of us have seen him play because his coach won't let him play. Like will not, will just go so run conservative that he will actively make the perception of his quarterback less than what it should be because of how he's using him so conservatively. It's literally something I've never seen before.

I've never seen a coach hide a quarterback his last year and then that quarterback becomes a top-10 pick in the draft. Have you? No. But Tony, you know what I'm sensing here? What? Dan's going to put a flyer on JJ McCarthy. That's a good bet. He likes the unknown.

I can't believe you have two better than this. Oh, wait till you see, Stu, you got two. Number two, AFC West, that guy, Walder, Walden, what's his name, gave him an A in the off season. They deserve it. But really, this team was built last year in the draft with Bo Nicks. Oh, I love that.

Walder did not give them an A. There's only one. A. Rams. Yeah. Bad job by Walder. Are you sure? I thought it was the Broncos.

Same. They got everything. I thought I thought the Broncos were the ones that got the A. And I thought his name was Sam Garland. That. Oh, by the way, another old face, new place. J.K. Dobbins, also way, another old face, new place. J.K. Dobbins also a Bronco really telling packing up guys that probably in a

minute. Don't give me some of your leftovers. You're not just saying I just saw it. I saw it. I saw it. It is always give me the one. Yeah, but I love Bo Nix though. I love Bo Nix. He's good. All right. Number one, a guy who's been hotly debated here even in the last five minutes Number one guy we're gonna put a little MVP flyer on just in case

Danny dimes Daniel Jones Just in case Screw you just no case now the guy backing up the guy with starting experience Who's won a playoff game who was backing up a guy who you know Is gonna get injured that is a guy you put a flyer on for NFL MVP story job by you, Tony. Thank you Well, it's your collaboration with Stu gots God the two of you must have enjoyed that time together so much Imagine coming up with quick quarterback needs like home Bryce. Yeah for sure. Then I came up with Bo Nix. He's like, we gotta have Bo Nix.

So just- He's so good at this. Second year quarterbacks. No, Daniel Jones has been around a while. He's got a second contract. Hit pause on whatever you're listening to and hit play on your next adventure. Stay three nights this summer at Best Western

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Stugats! Belichick has done nothing since since Brady left. He made the playoffs once. I think at the very least he should not be a first ballot Hall of Famer. They should make him wait like 10 years to get it. He's an overrated did. It's that. It's what he just did. It's like, oh, I don't wanna get it. He can do something. It's that. It wasn't that long ago that I saw that team give up 70. Now, I know they've got the defensive player of the year. And they've got J.K. Dobbins.

But what everyone is doing is, well, if that's what Bo Nix looks like after one year of Sean Payton. Number two? When, well, I saw you guys, like, blatantly disrespectful earlier this week, because you're saying all of a sudden, the Kansas City Chief's stranglehold on that division is in jeopardy, and all you could offer me was bonics? Yeah. Oh, many are saying.

We got Herbert, too. Oh, I'll say the Chargers, too. No, but what I'm saying, regarding the Broncos, all you guys could give me all you guys said Like if you ask if I walk right now Anywhere to a sports bar in America and I go up to somebody who's a Broncos or a football fan Casual and I just say what do you think about the Broncos? Mm-hmm. I'm just gonna get a finger point and bow nicks from every last popular pick

JK Dobbins, huh? Good corner. That's how you talk football. All right, so so what's Ivan Ingram now, bro? So let's do this. I like this game better. This game is better. You say a team will guess I'm gonna that's okay I'm gonna I I could do this for any team This is having so much Dog me with foot All right I am walking into a sports bar and I am having withdrawal because I haven't been able to talk football with a whole bunch Of people who don't know shit about football but want to be in the conversation

So now let me go up to the bar and these guys are having fun, they're slapping each other on the back, they're having a great time, they're clearly talking about football. I want to get in the mix. Yes, they're shadow boxing like Conor McGregor because they're doing a lot of cocaine. They're talking very fast about football. So, hey you guys, the Colts, huh? Oh, Dan-O! The Colts! Yeah.

AFC South. Wait a minute. Daniel Jones. Weird division, man. Wait a minute. Divisions wide open for the Colts, Dan-O. Always open rounds, AFC South. Guess who they re-signed Mike?

Mo Ali Cox. Wow, no one's happier than Spiro D.D.'s. He's gonna be open from the 10 yard line in the red zone and he's gonna be open for a nice little post into the end zone for a touchdown. They have a path. They always do. They have a path.

And that path is the AFC South. Exactly. That first touchdown, Mo Ali Cox is going to hit like crack. So imagine you got Anthony Richardson, if he can play and get them to a couple of games, a couple of wins right before his body lets him down. We know that all of a sudden Daniel Jones comes in with a nice little couple game buffer. Yep. Starts getting the offense going, starts running a little bit. All of a sudden I'd straight up another drink. I'd straight up pay a thousand dollars to

watch a replay of Jags Colts one o'clock at Lucas Oil Stadium Who do I pay? Pick a year a year for staking. Yeah, Shane Stikens got I'll see what Stikens got. Yep. Yep, Michael Pittman jr. By the way Make or break he gets us Tony do me a favor and look at the game logs for a second, because I believe I lost no bet more last season than Mo Ali Cox over 8 1⁄2 yards for the game. I don't believe that. Play is always anytime, Toddy, by the way, do you?

Yeah, anytime, Toddy. You are gambling. I, poor thing. And it's usually six yards. Very poorly, very poorly. He'd be at 8 1⁄2, I'm like, it's just one of them. And then, you know, one for four yards touched down. He's got no time for yak.

Can't yak if you're already in the back of the end zone, pal. If you want eight yards from Mo'Ali Cox, you gotta throw it to him nine yards down the field. Yes. You better be first and goal from the nine. Put it to make it safe, honestly. Put it on the pole, please. If you want eight yards from Mo Ali Cox

You better be throwing it nine At LeBatard show yes or no all right. I'm looking at his game logs here first couple of games He had a donut on these on the game log against the Tennessee Titans one catch 15 yards So you hit that one no AFC South next one one catch 15 yards. So you hit that one. No, it's a MC South next one one catch two yards Zero for zero. This is my favorite segment also. Okay two catches for 15 yards Another donut, okay Against the Jets three catches 17 yards full mast love that Then a couple of games of some donuts a couple of games of some doughnuts

Love that. Then a couple of games of some donuts, a couple of games of some donuts. I was studying the linebacker coverages. Yeah, zero against all those. Miami, one target, no catches. Oh, that one hurt. I remember that one. Yeah.

Tennessee, four catches, 41 yards. Breakout. He exploded. Love that. AFC South. In a high-scoring game against Jacksonville, where they lost 37-34. AFC South.

Two catches, 37 yards in a tutty Wow and then caught the rest of the season combined 22 yards Hmm in five games. Hmm Let me go back to the sports bar, please These guys are again having a great deal of fun One of them is shadow boxing in the corner because he's done too much cocaine like Connor McGregor allegedly just needs to move I regret making fun of all of this kid given how starved we are for all of this Spiro DT's bet me over the bar Please just say another team and I let him You guys What do you think Anthony Richardson's

going to do this year? Oh, AMC South. Talk about a guy who's got incredible talent. He's got to put it together, Dan. That's the thing. This is what the Colts do. Yeah. A starter goes away, and a backup excites the base

and does just enough to have them in the graphic by week 17. There's a path for him. There is a path. Who else can throw 70 yards off his back foot? Nobody. Tell me, Kyle Boiler maybe, that's it? Touchdown Mo'Ali Cox. Did you forget all the other NFL teams?

No, I thought it'd be funny to just go right back to the courts conversation. The Patriots guys. Oh, Drake May. Drake May, Stu, what do you think about Drake May? the Patriots guys. Oh, Drake may. Stu, what do you think about Drake may? I feel like this is breakout season. Is this the year?

I'm not too thrilled with Stefan Diggs's off season. Gotta be honest. But that's a number one wide receiver off season. That's what I want. You think? I want my wide receiver on the boat. You want a 31 year old wide receiver coming off the tour. I want him putting out two seat of the ladies.

That's what I want for my Diva wide receiver I want that guy make and then you want variable to shut him up Be honest that video the offseason video he looked pretty cool wasn't an a Scott that was cool He's cool. He is. Yeah. Yeah, he's super cool I think him and Cardi B broke up though. So now we have that going in the camp that that all right focus now We lock in had funder in the summer now we lock in mm-hmm defense looks good, by the way And I heard good things about Josh McDaniels is he still there? Yeah, I I do have to point out to both of you guys that I do believe that when you went Drake May

Stefan Diggs and I think the key to this game is that you're naming the only two people that anybody would be naming. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what you do. I think that's the key. You go quarterback relatable, then. Tough runner, Ramond R. Stephenson. But if you go, I think the key to this, though, is that you just go two names everyone knows and then Vrebl. Like you just, bang, bang.

It's another version of Stephen A. Smith's, you know, Wichita State and them boys during the NCAA tournament. It's another version of Stephen A. Smith's, you know, Wichita State and them boys during the NCAA tournament. I did read a clipping about Josh McDaniels really devoting himself to reinventing NFL off season. And that is big if he is still indeed on that staff. Another year without Brady. If Josh goes down, that division's wide open.

Yeah, no doubt. They have a path. They always have a path. Always. Old names, new places, Tony. Antonio Gibson, Gibson about that How to get you the last year that guy can get you three yards and not more but he can get you three And you have a third of the guy. Yeah

Get you three yards in a phone booth. It's hunter Henry first down hunter. Henry's always there, right? I don't know. They have tight ends for days. They do Is putting it on the pole juju is hunter Henry always a patriot? Hunter Henry's always there, right? I don't know. They have tight ends for days. They do. Put it on the pole, Juju. Is Hunter Henry always a patriot? Gotta be there. He's still there. Large head hunting season in New England. It's a podcast.

Tell them. Southern Outdoors with Jeremy Teshe and Chris Cody. Hunter Henry, when you just say that name, it's funny because what it conjures is not a New England patriot, it's somebody who would morph from a football player into an old-timey actual patriot, like somebody in uniform who would march.

You just say Hunter Henry and I'm like, that person gives, that name gives off, I wouldn't recognize him if he walked in here right now. None of you would, correct? I think it's the waverawg. No, he's a big lad. Big guy. He's a big lad.

But my face, you guys think you would recognize what Hunter Henry looks like? Just like a square head. Yeah, square head. Square. I'd piece it together. A Plumlee head? Yes, like a Plumlee.

Times three. I think I'd piece it together. Got the hair kinda going down too. You know why? Because I've bet call her Henry anytime touchdown Approximately 47 times in my life you are gambling. I am gambling on props, and he's not even the most Look looks like a patriot hunter Renfro looks like he's on the front line Hunter Henry you click on him in fantasy you look at his game log am I gonna pick him up on the wave of wire

Nope, and then you move on him in fantasy, you look at his game log, am I gonna pick him up on the waiver wire? Nope. And then you move on with your day. People were smaller back then. In the American Revolution days. People used to be smaller. Alright, put it on the poll please. Who looks more like a patriot with a bayonet marching into war? Hunter Henry or Hunter Renfro?

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