The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: A Cam Ward With One Cube

Episode Date: November 22, 2024

Jeremy, we good? The crew kicks off The Big Suey by discussing The George Pickens Experience™. Hawk loves watching Pickens and describes why he's one of the most unconventional athletes he can remember. Are you a better football player when you're a fan of violence? Then, Dan wants to know how to measure Jared Goff against some of the all-time greats, Amin retells a Tim Duncan story after Dan took some creative liberties, and the crew goes to the Bucket of Death. Plus, Hawk is convinced Mike will be back on the Browns bandwagon at some point, but it's just going to take the right circumstances. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I've done it. And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar. I feel it all around me. I see screen caps. I hear my friends mention Game Time as their go-to app when they need tickets. This thing is growing.

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But here's Pickens after the game, not exactly a graceful loser. What do you guys try to take away from this loss? What's the message in the locker room? Just keep grinding. Like I said, conditions a huge huge part in today's game. I don't really think the Cleveland Browns are a good team at all. Nice. Hey. It's not like they were dominating the game when the the weather conditions were more favorable. It's just kind of kind of a weird one. That's the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Teams that win based solely off of execution really, because outside of TJ Watt and a couple of other guys maybe, they're not gonna have talent advantages. They win because of execution, and certain variables can throw off how those teams win. So you agree with them? Yeah, well generally, yeah. I mean, Pittsburgh's better

because they execute at a higher level. I mean, one of them's three and eight and the other one's eight and three. Pretty obvious. Yeah, it's not a... Pretty obvious, but that's always the time, like, Pittsburgh does this. They'll hang tight with the big dogs

and then you'll be confused because they struggle against teams that back quarter guys. Oh, no, wait a minute, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, be clear on this. I know we all love Tomlin. We love that he might have the fun CTE when he talks. Like, we all love Tomlin, but love that. He might have the fun CTE when he talks like We all love Tomlin, but he's been losing that game for 20 years like for 20 years Well the brown game

Specific to the Browns. I think he's got like an all-time winning percentage Talking about when you're eight and two and you got expectations for the Steelers and oh, they're not gonna win in the playoffs this year. They're better than I thought they were and now they're nine and eight. Yeah, that's the story for a team that's not overly talented, that they win based off of schematics, how they prepare for an opponent,

and certain variables can throw you off. You muff a punt, you miss a kick, there's a blizzard in the middle of the third quarter. It's a snowstorm. I mean, I was actually shocked at Jameis and I'm not to turn it back to Jameis, but the fact that he plays so well in the middle of the third quarter snowstorm. I mean I was actually shocked that Jamis And I'm not to turn it back to Jamis But the fact that he plays so well in the snow shocked the hell out of me well He was excited to hear him earlier before the game. He's like he thanked the Lord yes

In real football that's a fan. That's a fan Answer like I've seen this on NFL films. I never thought it was real He was throwing some really beautiful passes that I think maybe shocked us because the camera view was so much worse than what it looked like on the field for the players because Russ Russ was doing it too there were some big fourth down conversions that you're like how do you even attempt that pass even with it being fourth down there was some sick passes those are some sick passes I mean I don't disagree with George Pickens

that the Browns are not a very good football team. I think we all would agree that they should be near the top of the draft. They should go get another quarterback. And it's just a matter of him losing after an L calling the team that you played bad. That is the George Pickens experience, which I am all for. I'm just be honest. I like George Pickens experience, which I am all for.

I'm just be honest, I like George Pickens. I like that he fights people when the How Mary is happening. I like that he fights people when interceptions happen. Did we get an answer to what was happening after the game where he had to be held back and there were like fans? He was fighting the DB while the ball was in the air. It was like, it's like Tyreek Stevenson for the Bears, who was celebrating during the Hal Berry,

and George Pickens are like a match made in heaven in that scenario. Speaking of George Pickens, somebody on Sunday Night Live, shout out to me, on Sunday Night Live, presented by Smirnoff, somebody asked me who the biggest villain was in the NFL, right? And obviously taking out what we know. Thank you Jeremy about the Sean Watson I said George Pickens right now is the biggest villain in the NFL and I don't think there's anybody close to him He's power bombing people. He's suplexing people. He's talking shit about people like he right now is villain number one

Are we willing to go that far? let me think about this for a second because I when I see how it is that Pickens is playing, which is just elbowing people all over the place, and you guys pointed it out to me three weeks ago, you said he plays weird. Many years ago, many years ago, I talked to Darnell Docket, and basically he was just in Sundays for the money and the violence.

He's like, I get to hit people for free. Is George Pickens as a wide receiver, is he just looking to fight everybody the entire game? I don't think he's looking to fight people. I think he he's a little, I like it, but he's off. He's off. Fun CTE? Villainous? Villainous would be a good way to put it, I guess. But it's like a fire that so many NFL wide receivers care about, obviously money. They care about getting the football to catch the ball,

to make themselves more money. They care about how they're perceived. They care about their fame. When you watch George Pickens play, even like last night versus Denzel Ward, he would catch a slant, immediately starts talking shit to Denzel. Like, in the plays where he doesn't catch the ball,

immediately turns around, starts talking shit. It's not an act, he's not trying to get under your skin, this is just literally who he is. Pure emotion. And just, yeah, like I just love every minute of it. As far as an athlete, one of the most unconventional athletes in NFL history. He has no idea what he's going to do.

It's like, there is a cerebral piece of playing in the NFL of like when you watch a receiver run around or when someone cuts, like yeah, you think it's just your athletic ability and some of it is instincts, but it also is fueled by past experience, what you know, your feel, your very quick calculations of when somebody's coming,

what you should do. With George Pickens, none of that. It's literally all reaction, all instincts, whatever pops into my head. Kaderi Sony also has this. It might be right, it might also be the worst decision you've ever seen on the NFL field, and that's what makes it fun.

Fun GPs. Jerome Simpson was like that. I love the idea of you having a teammate who's like, hey, football not really, but yeah, violence and really athletic and won't get you eight targets for 80 yards a game. And you're a deep threat with an old quarterback who's just gonna throw parabolas the whole game. You're a better football player when you are a fan of violence. Put it on the pole, Juju. That's a bar, that was crazy. Are you a better football player

when you're a fan of violence? Where were you with violence? I was all for it. I just, it's like I actually miss it. Like when I play pickup basketball, I try to tame myself and then someone bumps me a little hard and I immediately start sweating I get a little grin I'm like, I miss this. Yes, please. That's why everyone hates playing basketball with football players Please give me the good time. Let's forget what's happening here. Yes

Well, this is the part that I don't think that we commentators totally understand I mean tells the great story of when his son got knocked out of the playoffs, Tim Duncan roared after making a three, and Amin ran through the building afraid of him because he's like, that competitive fire is something I don't understand. This person liking violence and collisions, and yeah, I'm a fan of it.

I don't think that's the world he lives in right here where he misses competing with somebody else. Oh, you think you're more physical than I am. Oh, I love it. There's a lot of creative license in the story that Dan just told there. Well, for a second there, I thought Tim Duncan was playing your children.

His son's lost. His big three pointer against my son. Early intro, Barbosa's dad. You're not right away. Well, okay, what license did I take with Tim Duncan screaming on the court that was unfair because that's how you told the story. The story I told was, first of all, they didn't knock us out.

It was game one. It was game one. And we were in overtime. And they ran a high pick and roll. And Shaq dropped all the way back to help out. I think it was Tony Parker kicked it to Tim Duncan at the top. And so no one reacts because like the scouting appor

this dude hasn't attempted a three all season long. It's Tim Duncan, he doesn't shoot threes. And he shot that three and he made it. And you know Tim Duncan is always like reserved or cool where he turn around and go, rah! And I saw the look in his eyes and it was game one of and it was a it was overtime game one at San Antonio

oh we're not winning this series like not the game I knew right then there series was over series man then in the time they came back from the time on this show the video of the huddle and Papa just sitting back and Tim Duncan grabbing people and I'm like, who the? Because this? You turn into Kevin Garnett all of a sudden. If KG does that, you're like, damn it, all right guys, let's go.

We got this. But it's like, you see Tim Duncan acting that way, like, oh shit, man. When did you run away? When was the scariest moment of that for you? At what point did you shit your pants? I didn't physically do anything, but internally, because I didn't shit your pants. I didn't physically do anything, but internally.

You shit your pants. You ran away shitting. He's got it right. The way the story's gonna be told 10 years from now is you slipped in your own feces and urine as you ran away from Tim Duncan's roar. I ran out of the elevator, tripped over myself, and my drink splashed all over the elevator across the way.

That is correct. Let's get the bucket of death over here real quick. No, we don't. While we're doing this, Hawk is gonna do it with us here. I wanna also talk about the Shannon Sharp sound. He just annihilated CD Lamb, Trayvon Diggs for shooting a music video after their loss to the Houston Texans.

And it was some real quality old man ranting. It's a damn good football team, Dan. I don't know if you heard, Michael Parsons told us. Jeremy, what do you have there from the bucket of death? I have the Cincinnati Bengals who are on a buy. That's the second we can win. Really hoping I would get the Browns. Hawk, are you familiar with the bucket of death?

Do you know the rules? I know who the Bengals are there you go. Okay, not very familiar with the bucket of death Okay rummaging. Here we go. Let's see. We got the Baltimore Ravens You pick a helmet on the night football talk you pick a helmet and you have a choice You can keep it and they have to win or you have to do a punishment You can put it, and they have to win, or you have to do a punishment. You can put it back, but that second helmet you have to keep. The Ravens are at the Chargers. The Chargers at home are a two and a half point dog.

That's a good game. It is a great game. Chargers, that kind of dog at home, why is that? Yeah, it's a sneaky line. I don't know if I like that. Brother versus brother. Yeah, I don't know if I like that. Brother.

I think I'm gonna put it back. Why is that horrible? Are you guys confused by that? No? Yeah, that's a trappy line. Push, no. I'm so confused about which one's Jim and which one's John. Yeah.

Give it a like. Jimmy Johnson. I got the Big Apple. So that's any New York team. Ah, the Jets run a bye, thank you. Okay, nobody likes when anybody wins around here. Mike Ryan, reach into the bucket, please. So if you get a bye week team, you just, you're good.

You won, just won. Basically. Houston Texans, who do they got? Texans are at home against the Titans. They're an eight point favorite. We're gonna keep that, thank you. That's a win. Are you sure about that?

I know it should be. I am positive about it. I know it should be, no. Hawk was saying that's a win, and I just don't feel, I feel like a lot of people were saying last night, Pittsburgh, that's a win, and it's like, I never know when that'll be. I guarantee you, they are not losing this

Didn't that line by the way didn't the Browns line go from seven and a half to three and a half before the game did That move for no no because of the weather no Thursday Thunder took a little teaser. Okay. I got the Seahawks One-point favorite at home against the Cardinals. It's a weird one. Yeah, I'm putting that back. Yeah, I like the Cardinals there Cardinals playing well, I got the Cardinals. All right Vision stuff I do feel like though I feel like our analysis right there of the Cardinals was the universal analysis with Cardinals playing good Kyle, I'm very kind of very solid a means home team But that was all our analysis,

and I feel like that's America's analysis. McBride, good. That's a good analysis. I got the Panthers. Yeah, keep it. No, the Panthers, 10 and a half point dog at home against the Chiefs. All right.

That might be the worst helmet you could pull out of there. I have a feeling he'll pull it out again. So the Commanders and the Cowboys is also, the Cowboys. Yeah, that's a bad one. Okay, wow. What did you get? Titans.

All right, second worst helmet. God damn it, man. Okay. I guarantee you are losing. Enough with the curses. Sorry, I'm sorry. That's okay. I'm sorry.

It's that bad. Do I not believe? You got the Titans, you got the Titans, just so we're all clear. I've got the Buccaneers here, they are. Ooh, the greatest game of the weekend. Tommy Cutlass. Tommy vs.ler's Baker gull on the menu Evans might be back six-point favorite on the road at the Giants

I'd keep it if I were you tables coaching for his job Dan Hawkins says that nothing no kind Spoiler alert he ends up losing his job Yes, but you heard which means nothing is the correct analysis there. I'll keep it. Yeah, they got a win a game here The little swap with me Jags hell no who they even play by other by we still might put it back Don't trust them We've made history. Lion, there we go. Oh man. How do you pull a better helmet?

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Yeah. And there's a World War II veteran pitching into another white guy and he avoids another white guy Oh my god, not a name the fighting Irish have done it again for the eighth time white people Chubby Checker. I'm sorry, man. I'm improv'ing here. I thought I didn't hear you correctly. I'm like, why is Chubby Checker running down the sidewalk? He spells it differently. Maybe you didn't hear me correctly. His name is Chubby Checkers. There's an S at the end. I feel like that should be the largest of funds. Yeah, Chubby. Chubby Checker. It sounds like a college football name.

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It's crazy names. The Lions have the best team in football with a quarterback I'm pretty sure people didn't want, right? The contract was too onerous, and the Lions, he was supposed to just be a bridge. Was he not to the next quarterback? He wasn't supposed to be the one who made the team the best in football, correct? He wasn't supposed to be the one who made the team the best in football correct he wasn't supposed to

be the guy we were done with him because he I mean the Rams were the place to be and they got rid of him to get a better quarterback in their mind but he has been playing lights out he obviously was a top pick for a reason but what the the kind of key linchpin is the fact that their offensive line is so good, that it unlocks all of the abilities that Jared, like the best case scenario quarterback of Jared Goff is with the protection that the offensive line gives him. When I say put it in context though,

Jeremy, find out for me how many 300 yard games Jared Goff has in his career and where that puts him. What are you laughing about? I thought you were gonna say, Jeremy, find out for me if Jared Goff has any problematic things in his past. Yes, that too. Find if there are any of those. On it. Okay, thank you. I guess the question I'm asking you guys, we spend a lot of time

arguing about the value of quarterbacks and whether they're good or not and Bill Pollin says Lamar Jackson can't play the position and it's changing and Jared Goff is a pocket passer in a system that is going to go down as an all time great statistically because it's a different offensive game. But if I tell you Jared Goff is in a top five class, and I don't know if he is, but he's gotta be close, ever at the position in terms of statistics, you say what to me?

ever at the position in terms of statistics, you say what to me? The top five? Like just in anything? I'm just saying, I believe that, look, Jeremy, maybe I've got this all wrong, but I believe that Jared Goff is approaching statistically a place that very few quarterbacks have been on a running team, and I'm asking you guys,

we spent a lot of time covering what is this position and who's valuable at this position? I've got a discarded number one pick who was a salary cap deal so the other team could win a championship And he's at the helm of the only team in football that we're totally sure is really good and the deep deep favorite To be in the Super Bowl because of what the AFC is and so I'm asking everybody here What is Jared Goff? So he only has three 300 yard passing games this season, one of those was a 400 yard passing game.

He has 39 for his career that ranks 20th all time. Okay. He also is one of the most accurate pastors, he's got five games over 80% completion percentage in the 10 games the Lions have played. So who are the quarterbacks who are in the ten games the Lions have played. So who are the quarterbacks who are in the top five there with how many just out of curiosity on 300 yard games and I don't know if they're am I using even the

right stat in making some of these assessments on whatever it is a quarterback is supposed to be? I think 300 yards is probably a little bit more arbitrary than some of the other measurements, but yeah, the top five is who do you expect? Breeze. Breeze, Brady, Peyton. It's Breeze at number one with 123 games. Then Tom Brady with 113, Peyton Manning with 93, Matt Ryan with 76, and Philip Rivers with 73.

I'm gonna go ahead and say Jericho does not belong in this conversation. Not for a while. And also that Breeze record may never be broken. I don't mind Jared Goff in a Matt Ryan conversation. He's got to do it. He's got to do it. By it below a Superbowl lead. I was going to say, I mean, he's on track.

He's got to win an MVP. I don't know. Like he could have a very good career. He could be a Hall of Famer. And maybe he does belong in the conversation with Philip Rivers in that he played in an era where no one would say that guy was the best of his era, but he was also still a good quarterback. Dan just told me in my headphones,

get a stat that supports what I'm saying. So here it is. According to NBC Sports, quarterbacks to hit 400 yards, four touchdowns, and a perfect passer rating in a single game. The list includes Ken O'Brien, Nick Foles, Dak Prescott, Aaron Rodgers, Deshaun Watson, and Jared Goff. Jared Goff, the only quarterback to do it twice.

That doesn't prove anything. He's done it twice though. But he's playing great, I think, is what we're ultimately trying to get to. Mahomes has 46 of these. I'm kind of sad for you. I was watching Pat McAfee the other day. Do you know that he's 6-0 in games that he's thrown,

four interceptions or more? That's a true stat. According to Mr. Civ. Mr. Civ. Mike, I wanted to ask you as we navigate what the modern sports climate is, how you feel watching that game last night. Hawk can talk to you organizationally

about where it is the Browns are a spectacular failure. You gave up your fandom of the Browns in a big show of I'm no longer interested in this team. We didn't believe you and there has been no evidence since that you actually care about the Browns. When you're watching that game last night, does any of the old fan rise up in you? And you because you did something publicly that not a lot like

you said you were no longer gonna care about the Browns after Deshaun Watson and you ceased to. You seemed ceased to care in any way because of what they did there and now last night were you were you jealous that the Browns are having a fun night with in the center of football? No, I'm not jealous of that. Look, they had a pretty good season. They made the playoffs. The Joe Flacco thing seemed fun. I have plenty of friends that I made because of the Cleveland Browns that I still value. I'm happy for them. But I know how my body felt when I saw the lower third alert me that Deshaun Watson was headed

to the Cleveland Browns. And I knew in that moment there was no turning back. And I got accused of virtue signaling. I don't feel, I feel nothing. I don't even feel really all that much hatred for the Steelers, which is kind of weird. There's some times that they bother me. But when Chubb went into the end zone, I was like, all right, Chubb, I root for Chubb. I root for Miles Garrett.

I'm not breaking myself of that. But I root for Chubb. I root for Myles Garrett. I'm not breaking myself of that. They'll be back. But I root for them in ways that I root for Baker Mayfield. I think that's probably my strongest fandom attachment right now in the league is I root pretty hard for Baker. I was, me and my friends have been kind of like, cause I'm friends with still like quite a bit of Browns fans and they always hit me

with keys under the mat. And they're like, what is it gonna take for you to be back now that Deshawn's gone? And they're like, what if Cam Ward gets drafted by the Cleveland Browns? I'm like, I don't know how my body's gonna react to it. I don't know. But I just, here's where, I had this conversation,

a bunch of people came up to me and thanks again for everybody that showed up to Flanagan's and they asked me the same question. I think it was such a traumatic experience for me that I realized right then and there, like having so much of my identity tied up in an NFL team, I'm not for it. I'm just rooting for guys in that league.

I pivoted my fan with to getting really involved with the Miami Hurricanes. I don't think I'll ever feel the same way about NFL teams the way that I did. Mike, you grew up, you became a man. It's like, no, now I put in children who play football. That's what my energy is all about. Andrew just looked and just.

Well, Cammie Cormick's got four kids and three lives and a mortgage, and he's like 43 years old. He'll be back. You look ridiculous, Mike, and Andrew Hawkins is saying to your face three times now to your Jaguar face, you will be back. I mean, there's probably, you know,

Jimmy has himself a team. There's probably, there might be a scene where Baker Mayfield comes back to the Browns and is welcomed as a hero. I don't know about the show on leaves. You feel how he's leaving the door open? You feel how he's leaving the door open? This is the part of fandom.

This is a true Browns fan. Like, and I know where he's at now in life, and I know this because my This is a true Browns fan. And I know where he's at now in life. And I know this because my son is a true Browns fan. 12 years old. Weak, ruined every time they lose. Woke up this morning, went to sleep early last night because he didn't want to see them lose. Woke up this morning, found out they won.

Completely different kid. Completely different kid. I know deep, like this is a part of Mike's soul soul and I get where he's at and I understand how he's it's like when like someone who isn't an alcoholic and I'm not trying to make like of alcoholism Jeremy, but Whenever you stop drinking and it's like yeah, you know, I didn't like who I was on the juice I just realized after a while it was you know, like what are we even doing out here? realized after a while it was you know like what are we even doing out here? I feel healthier. I wake up, I sleep better. My mind is more free. The people around me like being around me more and all my friends that still drink that I talk to all the time they they they

even are like dude I see something special. Are you ever gonna come out again and in the moment the right situation. I'm gonna have one. That first drop of sweet nectar. Let me get a sip of that Cam Ward in the brown and orange jersey. Can I get a little, now just take one drink, it's not gonna do anything, it's not a big deal. Fast forward. Fast forward four hours. I hear you Boat Hawk, what are those moments?

Woo hoo! Mike the Tank is back baby! Did you miss me, I mean? Wouldn't that moment have presented itself last year with the Joe Flacco story and they're in the playoffs and I'm barely watching the game. Like I don't even know. Joe Flacco is not the,

because he's a hated Raven. That's not the drink that's gonna bring you back to the ball, buddy. It wasn't your drink. Cam Ward? That's not the drink. They're gonna serve a Cam Ward, you're gonna be like, what ain't gonna hurt?

A Cam Ward? I'll let you know how I feel about it. A Cam Ward with one cube? Come on, bro. You're taking, with smoking? You're taking a sip of that. You just pour it in your mouth like Salt Bae? There's no playbook for,

there's no playbook for all of a sudden being like a huge fan, like it was my favorite type of fandom, and then feeling like they've abandoned you. So like there's no real like playbook for me to borrow from experience. Of course, I leave myself open. I'm sure the Baker Mayfield scenario, if it were ever to play out where he's conquering hero,

I'd be all in because I'm a Baker guy and that, all right, finally, we've purged ourselves. We've made sure that we've capitulated, know that this is a mistake, but I don't think I'm ever gonna feel that way again about pro team. Mike, I think I hear what you're saying, and what you need is John Taffer to show up and do a fan rescue. You go over, they remake the whole place.

That's so good. And then the signature drink that they uncover is like, put one cube, pour six ounces of da da da. This is the Cam Ward. And you taste it with a straw and ooh, that is good. And next thing you know. I'm gonna stick around for a little bit. Sales are up 30% after six weeks. And it looks like, you tap and walk outside, looks up. You're telling me Cam Ward.

You're telling me that Cam Ward's getting drafted by the Cleveland Browns. I reserve the right to entertain it. There it is. The one asterisk, that is the one asterisk. Look at Jeremy. That's who my son wants. Look at Jeremyisk look at Jeremy

Cam wards clean I don't even think about it. I didn't say anything don't even look it up because we don't need to know my son loves Cam Ward He prays every day that the Browns are gonna draft Cam Ward He's watched the just like Mike documentary one and two at least 15 times over the last three weeks at least 15 times over the last three weeks. Jesus. I kid you not. He comes home from school, he puts the U on. This is like me with the Glimmer Man trailer. I watch it every day.

Really? Just to start my day, yeah. It's an odd one. No, it's not. First you hear a sound, then a Glimmer. It's an odd one. You're gonna look us in the face and say it's not odd that you start your day every morning with Glimmer Man? It's an odd one. You're gonna look us in the face and say it's not odd

that you start your day every morning with Glimmer Man? Gets me high, not the movie, just the trailer. Just the trailer. Just a quick two and a half. Get there, Keenan and Iver Wayne shows up, we hear James Brown, I got soul, dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun dun, and I'm super bad, because they're odd couple, you know?

Like he's a this and he's a that. I wanna play some Mad Dog sound for you guys in a second but let's play the Shannon Sharp sound because I did I just be curious what Hawk thinks here because I I love the power and voice and personality of Shannon Sharp I really do I I'm really happy that all his hard work is working out for him, but I was a little bit surprised to see him go on Old Man Screed yelling about the Cowboys, and it's an easy one. Everyone's going to side with him on this, but Trayvon Diggs and C.D. Lamb, I'm assuming, had a music video set up before they knew they were going to

lose to the Texans by 25 points, or however much it was. And Shannon Sharp has an amazing and great screed at their expense, but it's also every sports radio show I've heard for the last 30 years. That's why y'all Cowboys suck. Because two of your best players, this is what they doing. That shows you how much the game of football means to them. That's it, told me everything I need to know. All I gotta do, I need to know. Yeah. All I got to do.

I see better than I hear. Now I heard what CD said. Trayvon doesn't do a whole lot of talking. I hear what Michael said, but my grandpa's always tell my brother. Now he's I see better than I hear. I heard what I asked. I heard what y'all told me, but I know I see that trash still in the in the corner when I told you how to take it out.

Everybody talks about winning. But do you take the steps in order to win? what y'all told me, but I know I see that trash still in the in the corner when I told y'all to take it out. Everybody talks about winning, but do you take the steps in order to win? Hmm. How is party you got your ass kicked? I would have left the stadium with a bag over my head. Ain't no way y'all didn't see me leave the stadium. After I got beat like that, after I've gotten beat like that every game, 47-9, 30-17, 48-32, a yada and a partridge

and a pear tree, and you do this, is disrespectful. White people really gotta start going, to hammer home other people's points. They do. We do? Yeah, that's the number one saying on any podcast in human history.

Listen to every podcast ever and when they're saying something you're gonna hear, mmm. No, no, no, that's different. I'm talking about mmm. Oh, you talk like a little. Like when somebody's cooking. Mmm. Yeah, that's a black, that's a black. Like a shiver went down your spine. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a different one. Cause Stu Gotz has a mmm. Yeah, that's not. No one, no one does a spine. Yeah, yeah. It's a different one. Because Stu gots has a, mm. But it's not. No one does a mm. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know if you guys have enough seasoning in your food to get a mm out of us.

Too many raisins in them. It's crazy. Did you have any thoughts on what the meat of was, of what it is that he was saying there. Yes, I don't know what happened, so explain to me the situation. They were just, there was video of them in a club after they lost by a bunch at home to Houston, and they're the first team ever to lose

six straight games at home where they've lost by more than 20 plus. They're an easy target, and Shannon dragged them because they deserve to be dragged. I just don't think they deserve to be dragged over being in the club after the loss. Was it being in the club or was it filming a music video? Okay, so yeah, that's a big difference.

Filming a music video at the club is what it was, I think. Filming a music video, that's a decision. That's crazy. That's crazy. To go film a music video is nuts. To be in the club and it might look exactly the same whether it's a music video or not I can't tell the is not as crazy as it might sound Okay now I'm looking is that a music video or is that just we're in the club it honestly could be a social media

Is that TMZ so that like they're doing the thing where someone's holding up their flashlight off their phone yeah holding the camera with the other hand they do seem to be singing a song into the camera yeah I don't know CD as a yeah it's not it's not a good look good look, but this is also normal. Howdy loyal listeners, it's Mike Ryan and we're getting pretty close to wishing folks happy holidays. I'm sure many of you are already in the planning stages of opening up your homes and hosting holiday get-togethers. It can be stressful, everyone's got an opinion. So why don't you make life easy for yourself, make everybody happy, and give them the gift of Miller Time.

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