The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: A Joke, A Disgrace, and Criminal (feat. David Samson)

Episode Date: July 15, 2025

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Chris Cody, can you get me that francesa sound please because I wanted to talk a little bit about Superman and the movies with David with david samson uh... from nothing personal uh... greg cody yesterday had a blasphemous statement i thought on the movie jaws celebrating its fiftieth anniversary greg cody i thought was the only person in the world who had this public take that was uh... eviscerating jaws is movie doesn't hold up and just savaging it in every direction when I'm pretty sure he couldn't name an actor

from Ocean's Eleven. What does that got to do with Jaws? Yeah. The non sequitur. Dean Martin, I would have fed it to you but I know you just would have been like, that's right. That's a good point. But don't misquote me on Jaws.

What I said was the Jaws, the shark itself was very fake and it doesn't hold up well. Fifty years later you look back on it, you almost laugh through the movie now because look at that. Look at what was scaring everybody 50 years ago. Come on. I think that's fair. I think at the time Jaws was amazing. It was, it was trailblazing. But Dan, I mean, 50 years later, that thing does not hold up. All right, put it on the poll. Does Jaws hold up at Levitard Show?

Also, I will just say again, as I did yesterday, that Steven Spielberg could have made exactly the same movie. And if indeed they'd gone with the title, What's That Gnawing on My Leg, Spielberg would not have had a career after Jaws. It would have ended right there. David Sampson is with us now, but Jeremy had a number of objections yesterday

to you, Greg Cody, and I wanna start this as a new segment or something, just where somebody listens to the previous day's show that they were not on and comes with their critique of how poorly we covered something. Jeremy had objection to how it is that you were celebrating the midsummer All-Star Game Classic.

We go into All-Star Week, and the two things that we spoke about in baseball were Greg complaining that a young phenom is gonna get to pitch on a national stage, and then accusing the coolest story in Major League Baseball, now home run Derby champion, Cal Raleigh, of being on steroids.

Because we can't enjoy anything. Nothing can be cool, nothing can be exciting, having joy around something in sports. We have to be jaded, we have to undercut it. And it sucks. It was so shitty that we had to just spend our baseball coverage on that so what, we could celebrate Conor McGregor?

I mean, really. Okay, let me make a couple of comments real quick. I stand behind not allowing a guy who's pitched five career games. Behind it or by it? To be an instant all-star. Behind it, he said. I stand behind that, I stand by it,

I stand just in front of it, I stand all around it. I'm a wall around that opinion. Okay, as for this guy, Cal Raleigh, I never said he was on steroids. I said that we have we have come to a point where when somebody comes out of nowhere and has 38 home runs by the break, it would be natural to wonder and that's a sad situation. Which is why I ended up receiving multiple messages last night after celebrating the home run derby with that guys on roids I've only been thinking about it since you guys brought it up He might be or he might not be no, he's not don't do that. Okay, we don't know that

Yeah, he might and he might not because the okay Yeah, Mark McGuire and Sammy so so we so we're clean you know this is the first year i think since nineteen ninety eight where there's four players with thirty homers or more at the all-star break really cool for baseball but you know it's a shame you got a writer yeah i want five players another quick thing about cal rally we all love a great nickname right even when it's a ridiculous one nothing extraordinary about his ass just nothing out of the or he has a normal for a man his size for a man His height and weight. He has a very average derriere. Okay, I'm gonna be the one to say it's no Larry Fitzgerald

I'm with you. It's been overhyped. Yeah when you hear Big Dumper, everyone's talking about it bass broadcast zooming in on it I did see it. I was a little under one. It's an average bum. His dad's was terrible Terrible, but for the. Almost non-existent. All right, so David Sampson's been waiting here for four minutes, he's perturbed. Go ahead, David, do you have any commentary? Chris Cody hasn't been able to get off all his derby takes. Chris Cody came in here, I've rarely seen him this excited

to talk about something that was on television the day before. I have a lot to say on it, I don't like the, I thought ESPN, I did not see, I've never missed more home runs in a home run derby than last night. I don't know who was running their cameras. It was the worst job ever.

It was still an enjoyable derby though. We had a kid rob a home run. Cal Raleigh getting into the semi-final by less than an inch. If I'm Brent Rooker, I am like, this is bullshit. He literally, cause the way they do it is, they all go the first round, the top four home runs make it through.

There was a tie for fourth, 17 home runs each, and it's judged by the longest home run distance. Less than an inch was Cal Raleigh's furthest home run. It's a game of inches. That is just so hard to track. I wanna see the replay of those two home runs. David, talk to me. Like, I was furious on Brent Rooker's behalf.

I told part of a story on this morning's nothing personal about how we did it in 2017 and how you would just be absolutely shocked when we had Stan and Boar and Aaron Judge won that home run derby. Before the home run derby, we had gone into the outfield with the architect and we had assigned distances to different sections.

So if a home run lands in left field, five rows up, it's 405. If it lands in right field, 10 rows up, it's 442. And if it's 11 rows up, it's 442. And if it's 11 rows up, it's 444. And so that, we had a chart. And what you do is, even during the regular season, you have a chart. And when someone hits a home run,

you have the PR guy in the press box who looks at the chart and then gets on the microphone. You've all been in the press box. Home run number 18 by Danggla, 422 feet. And everyone writes it down and says, all right, he hit one 422. We totally make it up. It's completely based on working with the architect

on a general range of where the ball lands. Now, is it true in today's analytic world that they can measure a home run by the inch? I highly doubt it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, David. And imagine that, imagine giving the benefit of the doubt

by less than an inch to the wonderkin, Cal Raleigh, and wanting him to advance. Imagine that. So now not only questioning whether or not he's on performance enhancing drugs, but whether or not the home run derby was rigged in his favor. Because David, the guy who made up attendance numbers,

says that he also made up how far home runs were hit when there is actual data behind all of it. I just love us being the question. We're not saying it's rigged, we're just saying it's ridiculous that they're trying to tell us that they know for a fact that one home run ball went less than an inch further than another, It's just ridiculous.

I mean, using the stat cast data is probably better than just making it up. The rule should be if it's less than a foot, we do a hit off. Yes. Like what are we doing here? Less than an inch? It's gotta be a jack off.

All right, that too. A hit off. Swing off they call it, don't they? I didn't want to say a jack off. It's a swing off, Dan. It's not a jag off. Swing off. You're hitting Jack's yes or no. Yes I like I said jag a jackal hold on a second this guy Thank you, Jag off would be Trevor Lawrence or mark you know what Jesus Samson keep up would you I mean first one to come wins

wins look what you've done samson what happened but you you lord out what you lord out the subtlety of of stugats you guys didn't even notice this it was a wonderful moment in the middle of all of that nonsense all right right in the middle of it still got with you guys are doing about the stupidity of this measurement system said it's a game of inches, Dan-O. And then whispered in my ear,

that was a bleeping tight ass window I got that in. Like I still got my, I still got my fastball baby, it's a game of inches, Dan-O. It is a game of inches and conspiracy theorists unite. We will foul up wonderful stories. We will question a man's ass and say it is insufficient for us that we don't believe he deserves his fun nickname. Right, live up to the nickname.

I have no conspiracy theory about this. I'm not saying anything was rigged. I'm just saying it's absurd that you're trying to tell me that that was decided by less than an inch. I have to believe that that broadcast had some major issues because they put Ravitch and our friend Eduardo on field level and they were blocked by players so couldn't see.

So what you hear is, oh, that one's deep. And then they would show it falling like in short right field. And so they weren't able to really see the ball and then the cameras weren't proper. So I couldn't see. 513 feet, I wanna see it. I wanna live with that for like 15 seconds.

And instead, I don't even know what happened. No replay, no nothing, except some sort of funky thing which shows the ball hitting the bat, don't care. I wanna see how far it goes. I think that ESPN had some definite issues there. But that said, home run derbies are really hard for the players. They're super, super tired.

And you got to compliment Junior Caminero. The ability to hit eight home runs and to advance knowing that you only needed eight, going second is the greatest advantage ever, but it didn't work in the final round. But generally it's a huge advantage. You guys were really excited about this thing. It was great.

It was fun to watch. It was long. But I'm with like, it was frustrating and funny. I didn't, I felt like I didn't see half the home runs. You were just seeing the ticker count up. It's like, oh, didn't see that one. Didn't see that one. The pitches are too quick.

By the time the ball lands, the guy's pitching again already. Cause there's a clock. I mean, they changed the format again. But this one seemed to work better than the previous ones. And they got away from the bracket until the second round when they got back to the bracket. Which was fine. I mean, it was okay.

They're tinkering with it still. We're never going to see 28 in a round again like we did with Josh Hamilton just because they keep changing the rules. I I was going to text Jeremy before the home run derby Tonight America gets to meet my beloved junior coming it'll that guy's good. Well, but I know discovered Those eyebrows are fantastic really are oh my god I was discovering that guy last night took a flyer Oh, but so he came up to the big leagues early last year and as soon as I saw him swing I'm like, holy shit. He hits everything. Everything's a line drive

He's got a beautiful swing and he's just starting his career in 2023 Julio Rodriguez It's 40 one game after four games. Somebody was talking there Do you not listen when other people here are talking Billy was giving information there and you just steamrolled him So we didn't understand either one of you. Yeah, I didn't know who started first. I thought I started for let's try it again Did you not hear him? Were you not listening? Cuz you just kept talking he was giving information trying to run you off the road and it didn't seem at any point like you Knew Billy was talking. Yeah when somebody tries to run me off the road, I put both hands on the wheel Oh, you know what I'm saying? I. Greg is that asshole that won't let anybody in.

But you have to. If somebody's like got the blinker on, like hey, I missed the mirror, I need to get in here. My dad will speed up to the car in front of him. Like no, you can't. You're doing it to someone else, not me. I apologize, Billy. I apologize.

It's okay. You know, the working conditions in here, I'm sweating like a pig. Very hot. It's like a thousand degrees in here. Well, it's because you're wearing that same shirt you wear every day, and it's a long sleeve shirt, and it's the middle of summer. There was. It's like a thousand degrees in here. Well, it's because you're wearing that same shirt you wear every day, and it's a long sleeve shirt, and it's the middle of summer.

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Stugats. Taitas. This is the Don Lebatard Show with the Stugats. Taitas. This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats. I want to give baseball credit because I was not going to watch the All-Star game, not even on a second or third screen today, but I did ask Jeremy a question and he looked it up. And apparently Major League Baseball is going back to players representing their teams

by wearing their primary home and road uniforms. And that was always aesthetically pleasing. I stopped watching the Major League All-Star game when they just wore these uniforms that were cash grabs, that they wanted to sell these jerseys. I used to tune in and love to see the spectrum of colors and see all the different teams uniforms on the field at the exact same time.

What's a royal doing here? Major League Baseball, credit to you, this is the right call. I said earlier we were never gonna see 28 home runs in a round again after Josh Hamilton in 2023, Julio Rodriguez hit 41 in a round. That's what he was trying to say when you ran him off the road.

But let's explore Yes, let's explore both that and what your son is examining which is you are the Miami driver That is the most stubborn of all of the history of Miami driver He is road rage like a man gets angry petty well he will be in his car and If he is felt in any way like you are being an inconsiderate driver he will not he will stubbornly behave with his car the way he has for seventy years as a human refusing as in driving for seventy years so you're refusing refusing to yield in his thank you an important correction

fifty four years he's been driving stubbornly and his car represents him and you were saying what when you ran Billy off the road? I can't even recall. Oh. It's fine. We move forward. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. It was a big deal because Leventard keeps going back to it. But I'm a kind driver. Minor penalty, two minutes for adding nothing. David. minutes for Adding Nothing. David? I thought, wait a minute, I thought you were the one being penalized for adding nothing. You're the one who brought up that I interrupted Billy. That's adding nothing.

Right. It's a travesty. It's cooler in there though, Greg. Seriously, I'm gonna come back wearing a towel. Come back shirtless. Sitting on a rock. Come back shirtless or go sauna. Go sauna in the sauna room shirtless.

That'll be a good visual for us. My beloved Rays are gonna sell for 1.7 billion. And your thoughts were what there, David? Because they are a remarkable major league run team that feels minor league in every way, They are a remarkable major league run team that feels minor league in every way, even though they're smarter than just about anybody about how to teach people how to play correct baseball. Yeah, I don't really look at them as minor league at all.

They are the model franchise, and getting 1.7 billion for that, it's really on the come, and you're hoping that the owner doesn't run into a housing crisis because his money is comes from home building basically. But it's a great exit for Stu Sternberg. He very much wanted to relocate the team back to New Jersey or somewhere in the northeast and baseball under Bud and Rob.

They were just never going to allow it. He was never going to do the Montreal deal. He was never going to build in St. Petersburg. And the hurricane ended up being a perfect out. And he got a price that he and his investors wanted. And now it's an issue that baseball has to deal with because they have a new owner at a high cost basis, 1.7 billion, who is running a team who is going to be very much in favor of opportunities

to win, therefore trying to eliminate the payroll disparities that exist between say the Dodgers and the Rays and will become an issue in terms of the vote and a new collective bargain agreement. So you're trading in one problem for another. Sometimes it's the devil, you know, but that trade at 1.7, for me it's a negative for baseball, not a positive. The Orioles went for 1.73, and what you're trying to do is be like the NBA or NFL

where your prices continue to go up into the multi-billions, and it just didn't happen. Wait, so you think I've got this wrong on Tampa reputationally because of the lack of a stadium because the previous stadium they had was in a major league stadium in any way that tamper reputation lee i i know inside baseball everyone knows how smart and major league they are i think they've done enough where no one is treating them or viewing them as a minor league for so so you don't think that

reputation lee tampa selling for less than baltimore is something that something that happens because Baltimore's major league and because Tampa's not? No. A prospective owner does not do that, does not look at that. They're doing pro formas and they're deciding how much money has to be put into a new ballpark in Tampa. And then they're trying to hit the bid that Stu wanted for him and his investors. So no, it's not related to that at all. Listen, the Marlins sold for 1.2

and people viewed them as a minor league team. And at the time, that's eight years ago, that was a large price. So I would tell you that it's a big deal for baseball as it relates to expansion, getting a ballpark done in Tampa eliminates the Tampa issue. Hopefully the Vegas issue is done.

So the A's are taken care of. And now you get to the business of getting to 32 teams, which is what baseball has wanted to do for 10 years, if not more. And the ability to get to eight divisions of four teams, total realignment, to get money in owners pockets in terms of expansion fees, everything that Rob wanted and the owners wanted can happen. But this raise transaction had to happen first. What kind of driver are you?

So I used to have tremendous rage because of my general frustration tolerance issues and it got cured when I got threatened and I'm not a big guy and I was at a light and the guy didn't move fast enough. I want, when it turns green, You don't. I want you to be on the gas. You're revving.

Yeah. I don't want there to be a pause. I don't want you to be looking at your phone or changing the channel. I want you going, because I'm annoyed enough that I had the red light. So I leaned on the horn and the driver didn't move. Then he got out of the car.

Oh boy. And that was it. That was the last time that I had road rage because I figured I was boxed in. There was a car behind me. There was no way out. If that guy had Kevin Costner in me and all of a sudden he had a gun, I was done.

And my road rage got cured that day. I will never forget. I can pick that guy out of a lineup. It literally scared the shit out of you. I mean no not literally because I didn't crack my pants so no incorrect but it scared me straight and basically I now do not engage in road rage because the stakes seem way too high to me. Did you um did you offer him two free tickets to the Marlins game that night and say do you know who I am?

Do I love where your head's at? I did not do a Vince Namoli who got pulled over by the cops as owner of the race and said, do you know who I am? And they said, great, here's your ticket jackass. So no, I never do that when I'm pulled over and I've gotten pulled over many times for speeding. I never pull it. Do you know who I am? I do it better.

I give the license and then they run the name and then they come back with a, we know who you are. And so that's always more effective than you saying, do you know who I am? It's better for you to respond when the person says, I know who you are. And then they double and triple the fine when they realize who you are.

Oh, there's no question. I get a ticket every single time. I can't believe that some of that hasn't rubbed off, that you can't get away with any of that anymore. You get pulled over these days, you're not gonna get I Know Who You Are. Yeah, but he pays for it with public money, so he's fine. Well, you definitely, there are lawyers around,

and Miami has so many, God bless all of them. They take care of it, you pay them a couple shekels, and you get so many, God bless all of them, they take care of it, you pay them a couple shekels and you get no points, no prob, no appearances, and you pay the money and move right along. So that's always been fine for me with speeding tickets that I've gotten. FakeHoward.com.

Can we talk a little bit about the Phillies whimpering about the same thing that Greg Cody was whimpering about, that he does not want a Brewers phenom in the game with five pitching appearances when the Phillies have two pitchers who have been a great deal better than he has been. I was just shocked to hear Greg talk because what it meant is Greg didn't do the research and Greg you are the king of research and the best columnist in Miami next to Dave Hyde. Explain to me how you didn't know that Christopher Sanchez was asked to be an all-star and declined. Explain how you didn't know that Ranger Suarez was asked to be an all-star and declined.

OK, first of all... So it's not like they didn't have an opportunity and they whined and whimpered as though they were overlooked, and that's not at all what happened. OK, I didn't mention either of those Phillies pitchers in my argument. My argument stood on its own, which is that on principle and by common sense, a guy with five career games in the major leagues should not be arbitrarily appointed to an All-Star team. Period.

What's the number, Greg? Is it Don Trel's 13? Is that good? Yeah, because for a pitcher, that's like half a season. This is five games. I think it's absurd. I think it's an insult to baseball history. David, who's the best player that you know of,

or perhaps that played for you, who spent a whole career, a solid, good career, and never made an All-Star team? That's the guy I'm thinking of who's been insulted by this. There's a ton of great players. The first one that came to my mind and I'd have to check it, but would be Juan Pierre.

There you go. I don't know that he was ever named as an All-Star and he would have been an All-Star for me several years in a row in three, four, and five, but I may be wrong, but someone can check that for me. You're right, David. So he deserved to be an all-star. There's no question about it.

And to me he was, but you're talking about the fact that there's 80 all-stars tonight, 80. Which is ridiculous. That's like over 10% of the league are all-stars because of all these rules where if you pitch Sunday or if you just don't wanna go to Atlanta, you still get an all-star. The Phillies paid the bonus to Sanchez

like it was an All-Star, give me a break. So we're gonna have 80 introductions. And my view is that it should be 26 guys. All of them should play. And when you're taken out of the game for a pinch hitter, you may remember this from 2017, if you've ever covered an All-Star game, Greg, you go to the post game clubhouse, they're all gone.

They've gotten on their planes and bailed. My view is they should all be forced to stay the whole game and they should be allowed to re-enter the game. So when Aaron Judge is pinch hit for tonight in the fourth inning and the ninth inning, I want to do the Stu Gots golden at bat, let him bat in the ninth inning against a great closer. It's an all-star game. It's an exhibition.

I don't want to watch the scrubs. That's a bad way to say it. I don't want to watch the best, the worst of the best at the end of the game. I'd rather have the best of the best at the end. David, did you ever try to keep one of your players out of the all star game? Because that player would have made a bonus if he made the all star game. No, no. So I loved paying the All-Star bonuses.

They were, we did it 25 grand, some 50 grand. With Pudge Rodriguez, we had a clause that if you were ever World Series MVP, he'd get 250 grand. And to me, it was the best money you could ever spend because it adds to your bottom line, because you get attention. The fact that Kyle Stowers is an All-Star

is really good for the Marlins. And the fact that Kyle Stowers is an all-star is really good for the Marlins and the fact that he can use it in arbitration as a special accomplishment is worth probably you know 50 to 100 grand in your arbitration number when you've got special accomplishments before you're arbitration eligible and I'm all in favor of that because I loved the attention of having Marlins players in the All-Star game. Big news out of the big easy, UFC 318 is about to go down in New Orleans and this card is absolutely stacked. We got Dustin Poirier versus Max Holloway, three as the headliner and it's Dustin Poirier's last walk to the octagon. The final chapter with his legacy on the line.

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That's a good list. I'd like to, if you want to give, Greg Cody was fighting on behalf of a player whose name he could not remember. Right. He's just saying a fictional player that it is very purposeful cause of yours on behalf of players that you couldn't remember any examples of. You okay?

Billy, do we have... Travis Hafner. Never made an All-Star game. That's a crazy one. Because he had a year where he led all of major league baseball in OPS plus like he he finished Top five and MVP voting he finished top eight in MVP voting 24th the year before that not one all-star game That's pretty unbelievable to think about he was an amazing hitter for a few years He was strikeout or hit 50 home runs before it was popular. Tim Salmon never made an all-star game.

These are good lists. And the guy with five games gets in. Wow. That's fishy. A joke. Joke. He's electric, Greg. You should watch him tonight.

Yeah. You're going to have so much fun. I should watch him for about another 20 games and see if he earns his way into an all-star game. He's going to pitch tonight, and he's going to blow a 103. That is my prediction. He'll throw the fastest pitch of any of the pitchers tonight and I think you will see a 103 out of him tonight.

Okay, how about you call up a guy just before the All-Star game. The guy hits a home run and is first at bat. He should be an All-Star too. He was electric in that at bat. We don't need to see him more than one at bat. He's fine. Five games, plenty.

You're doing apples to oranges, Greg. That's not exactly how it worked. His five starts have been staggeringly good, record breaking. He actually went against some of the best pitchers and the team, the Brewers are 55 and 40, one game back at the Cubs, one of the best records in all of baseball. And what's wrong with promoting a story like Mark Fidrich?

Of course you want to make him an All-Star. Sid Finch, you want to make him an All-Star because you want people who will watch, be watched and everyone but you. And believe me, you're not the demographic that baseball cares about. People will be watching Mizorowski. OK, everybody but me a million thousand other people. A million other people. Breaking news, Stugatz, I am willing to report exclusively.

Midsummer here, Peter Schrager has got it. I am looking at him on camera. He just came out of Get Up and he was leaning against his desk. Oh, wow. He was not just on camera. He was leaning against his desk. Peter Schrager, who's going to be a big part of all NFL coverage on ESPN. I am reporting exclusively has got it The it factor that's a news it he's got it

Cooper still free agent Caesar Tovar never made an all-star team Eric Eric Chavez. Greg Cody has called this All-Star decision, okay, a joke, a disgrace, and my favorite, criminal. A crime against baseball. It is a crime against baseball. Okay, is David still on? Yes, he's still here. He's still here, yeah.

He's just looking around until he sees David. Why'd you just look into the sky? Okay, David. He was hoping to see David. David, you know this. There's a place for a guy who's pitched five games and has really impressed people. It's called the Futures Game. It was played Saturday, I believe.

Greg, you actually did very well there. That breaking news was tough to shame. You transitioned out of it. Yes. Bigger Strayger has it. Strayger has it. I can understand how disorienting. Yeah, it, yes. Peter Schrager has it. Schrager has it. I can understand how disorienting.

Yeah, it really was. Peter Schrager has it. The futures game is for people with not one career at bat or one career inning pitched. It's all minor leaguers, Greg. Bend the rules. Oh, so bend the rules for that. This guy had like 14 innings pitched and we're like, yes. Stop that, it's ridiculous.

You want to get some eyeballs on the future game though, Greg is right. I feel like I'm transported to another time, LeBron to Miami and arguing about the All-Star game. Like, it's a time machine. Welcome back to 22. The season ended today, he'd still be eligible for rookie of the year next year.

Right. Yep. There's a pitcher pitching tonight in the All-Star game who's played five more games than I have Crazy. He's only made one more pitching appearance this season then Marlins rookie utility infielder Javier, Sonoha There you go Criminal Greg Cody has said crime against baseball Jeremy that is the most irrelevant stat. Of course it is But it backed me up baseball baby. Yeah

Minor penalty two minutes for adding nothing I mean you reported Traeger had its tent to leave call It's a delayed call. Seriously. It's a delayed call. It's a delayed call. To me, that's a major penalty for Dan because when we want to train people, when they hear that noise that they need to pay attention, that's something major's about to happen. Right. And then he drops a Schrager's got it.

And now when people hear the noise going forward, they're going to assume it's just a joke. Yep. Good point, David. David, the Red Sox have won 10 straight, and they traded away Rafael Devers. And I'm wondering, is that like the best feeling for like a GM to trade away a guy, the fan base gets really mad at you, and your team is better without said guy?

How good does that feel? It's the dream. We root for everyone we trade away to stink. We want them to get hurt. We want them to be bad. It's like know, it's like when you sell a stock and pretend you don't look at what the stock does after you sell it, of course, everybody looks. We just say we don't.

And that's what I said for all those years. But I always looked at people we traded. I didn't feel happy. I love Miguel Cabrera, but when he won the Triple Crown, I was like, are you kidding me? It's like a pylon. Of course, you then congratulate him and you're happy for him.

But no, you definitely want Devers to be bad. You want the Giants to finish behind the Diamondbacks and you wanna catch the Yankees because then you get to do a big fat I told you so off the record to all the journalists and all the fans. And to me that is major. The ability to do I told you so. I used to love that.

Whose downfall were you happiest for? Yeah. Hmm. Al Leiter. Wow. Oh. Likeable Al Leiter. Yeah, when he, his first game after he released him,

he pitched a great game on Sunday night baseball. And that hurt, right? And that hurt him. Oh my God, I was despondent, but then he stunk. Wait, so can you put us there? As lighter as stinking it up, you're watching these games. What are you doing, David? I'm waiting for the owner to call

and waiting for him to be angry that we made a decision to move on from him. And all of a sudden he's performing for one of the New York teams. And on Sunday night baseball, which back then meant something, and the Marlins could never get on Sunday night baseball and yada, yada, yada, you're eating crow thinking,

wait a minute, did we designate the wrong guy? You really want confirmation bias for all your personnel decisions and you only get that through bad performance. And so you wait for the bad performance and that's when you pounce with the owner and you say, look, we did the right thing. And so what I would do, then, there were clippings.

It was really before people were using the internet too much, but we would do actual clip packages every day. And what I would do is I would highlight the articles that were game recaps from players we had traded or designated who had bad games for their team. And I would do the box score or do the line of the game story to make sure the owners saw.

Nothing personal though. David, when you famously built taxpayers and got a stadium built, you got an All-Star game. I'm wondering if any memories pop up there, good and bad, with when you guys hosted the All-Star game. Boy, that was fun. The home run derby was so much fun. I will tell you that I was upset

about the bracket situation. I tried to not have brackets back then in 17, because the way the brackets were shaking out, I thought Justin Bore would have a problem, and he did. And he should have advanced, because he was that good. And in today's game, he would have advanced. I wanted Stan to defend his title

and win back to back derbies. Having Judge win was disappointing, but exciting for fans, no doubt, as he won the home run derby at Marlins Park. It was phenomenal dealing with the players union and the commissioner's office when Aaron Judge hit the roof with the BP home run derby practice.

And we had never had a ball hit the roof before. So I remember that clear as day. But I also remember that I was very worried about my son who was on the field shagging because it's all connections. And I was worried that he was gonna get doinked. And then you watch like last night when the kid does a home run robbery, which I think should have been an out by the way.

Yes. You catch the ball, it's not a home run. Correct. But the umpire ruled it a home run, which I think is wrong. I think that kid should be lauded. That's what they're there for, to try to rob home runs. What? It's like the dream.

What are you talking about? 100%. That's what they're there for. All those kids are there to catch home runs. It's like the dream. What are you talking about? That's what they're there for. All those kids are there to catch home run balls. Look at the catch that this kid made. He is over the wall. This is a major league catch. That's a baby wall.

Walls like five feet tall. It's more than five feet tall. There's no walls below five feet. But that said, it's a great catch. And for you to deny it, deny it all you want, but that's not a home run. Under all scenarios, that's not a home run. And I remember clear as day.

Not all scenarios, cause it was a home run. Well, the scenario last night, the scenario last night made it a home run. But I had a big discussion with my wife at the time about having my son on the field because I thought it would be really cool for him. He was 14 years old, but I've been out there when fly balls are hit.

And let me tell you, I don't know Dan, if you've ever asked your staff this, wink, wink, I know you have, none of you could catch a fly ball. Not one of you. We did this a couple of weeks ago. Mike Ryan thinks he could catch one bare handed. Zero chance.

David, David. I could get 85 out of 100. David. Zero chance. How much you want to bet David? I will go to a major, if we can get this done, we'll go to a major league batting practice. You stand there and shag or I mean during a game would be insane when you see a ball hit you during a game. That wouldn't be allowed probably. Not during a game, David. But during BP I do not think you would catch a line drive. Can we stop talking about it and just do it, okay? Cause I'm so tired, you guys as a show, okay? This is, I'm still waiting for Stu Gotts' penalty kicks

against an MLS goalie. Like you either do this or don't, but stop talking about it. You should be able, Billy, to call on the Marlins and to do a whole thing where they let you into Marlins Park and they let you during a BP session go into the outfield and you stand there and try to catch any of the balls no matter whether you played college ball or not it's really hard to do. What is the movie you're reviewing

for us this week? This I'm taking a chance here and it's okay if you guys are gonna be upset. I watched the Barbara Walters documentary and it's on Hulu and it's called Tell Me Everything. And Barbara Walters is quite a story. I only knew her as the person who made people cry when she was interviewing stars and politicians, et cetera. I didn't realize what she went through prior to becoming the Barbara Walters I knew.

I didn't realize the misogyny of the news people like Peter Jennings and others, rest in peace, who were just mean to her because she was a woman news person and she was incredible. And so this documentary goes through her entire story and I love her because she chose work over family and I dig it. That is the right decision to make to choose work over family and I dig it. That is the right decision to make, to choose work over family and she did it. David, we're laughing at something you said there. Just to be clear, you weren't aware

that old-timey newsmen were misogynistic? I knew they were smoking on set, but it didn't occur to me that they were that way. How? I mean, it's quite frankly the archetype. It's also weird to say big-time misogynist rest in peace. way, that they would be that way. I mean, it's quite frankly the archetype. It's also weird to say big time misogynist rest in peace. Yeah, that too. You did that one too.

You managed to do both of those. You're welcome. It happens to be a great documentary and her daughter is on it and her daughter acknowledges, yeah, you know, my mom was just never around. She was the working person. She was never good at marriage. She was never good the working person. She was never good at marriage. She was never good at mothering.

She was only good at working. And it was quite relatable to me. And so I appreciated what she had accomplished and I just learned a lot. So if you're looking to learn about someone, Barbara Walters, tell me everything. It's worth your time. Do they get into the relationship with Roy Cohn?

Yes, they do. That's a big one because of course a relationship with Roy Cohn? Yes they do. That's a big one because of course a relationship with Roy Cohn is sort of bizarre. If people don't know that name then you're not watching enough movies. Roy Cohn is one of the most recognizable legal names of the past century. I mean along with the O.J. Simpson lawyers you know Johnny Cochran and Kardashians and Barry Shaq. How long is this list gonna be? See you later David. Good talking, you know, Johnny Cochran and Kardashians and Barry Shaq. How long is this list going to be? See you later, David.

Good talking to you. A very important, prominent attorney, except for all these others who need to be more prominent in my memory list that I will keep and will haunt me the rest of the week. Good talking to you. See you later. Yeah.