The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: A Language Reserved For Muppets

Episode Date: December 12, 2025

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This episode of the Dan Levitart show is presented by Draft Kings. Draft Kings. The crown is yours. I saw one of those Waymoes yesterday. A what? A Waymo. Don't call me that. I was on the highway yesterday.

I was driving home and it was at Waymo. And you know how I knew? Because it's that car and it's got like a spinning kind of deal on the top of the car, you know? What are you talking about? You sound insane right now. You know that, right? He's got that Waymo. Such an unsurious cadence.

I saw that Waymo. What is a Waymo? Human beings don't speak this way. It's a language reserved for Muppets. Waymo is the car. car that it's like the Uber without a driver that's the Waymo. Okay, but what's the propellers on the

I don't know. Waymo. I don't know. Burden Ernie ass. It has I've never like thought about that before but now I can't unheared. Where have I heard anyone speak this way? Waymo. It was Sesame Street. See, look. See look, there's the Waymo. What is it? It's a

That's a waymo. It's got the thing on top of the car. I don't know what that thing is, but it also had all kinds of other things spinning around it. And I assume that that's like the car how it sees and drives you because there's no person actually driving you. Now, I saw some of them last week. I was in Atlanta. I saw a few Waymos.

But for the first time I saw one yesterday on the highway. You're telling me, you expect me to get into a Waymo with no driver and we're going to go on I-95? I'm sorry. You skirt? Yes. I knew you were a scaredy cat, though. That in the haunted hotel, I knew you were a scared of the moment I saw you. Whatever, dog. I got no problem in mid-in when I'm scared of things. And yes. I mean, you'll see what I-95 is like? It's like Mad Max. I'm going to get into a car

with no, with a robot driver on I-95? The hell are we doing? This episode of the Dan Lebertar show is brought to you by the letter W for way. Unless, of course, Waymo is a great sponsor of the Dan Lavitart show. And then I'll ride everywhere. Roy's got me on skates today. Chris was about to have a heart attack. Just like him later.

Roy's just, yeah. Just like fool of me left and right. Crazy. It does seem like a Waymo convenient way to travel. Oh, come on. Let the joke sit. Let the joke sit. I had no choice.

No. See Jeremy how we couldn't tell Roy was going to a joke? I do it on purpose. I don't know how many times. Wimbled an ass shirt. So last night the Falcons beat the Bucks 29 to 28th. What's going on with my bucks?

Cooked. The Bucks were leading that game. Listen how inexplic- Like maybe you didn't stay up for the end of the game. I didn't. I thought the game was in hand. Well, yeah, because the Bucs were up 28 to 14 early in the fourth quarter.

And you would say, oh, so the Falcons did the thing, you know, where you go for two, which actually, I think it's, I fully endorse it. I think it's a great move. Yeah, math. If you're down two touchdowns, you're down 14, go for two on the first one, because really if you get it one out of two times, you're golden,

but if you get it the first time, you can win the game. But listen how this unfolded. It was 28 to 14. They get the touchdown. They go up for two. They go up for two. They go up for the next touchdown. They go up for two, which has to be for the tie.

They miss it. Huh? They still wind up winning the game. Baker threw an interception in between. There was a three and out. Proving why you go for that method, because you can still get the ball back, even if you miss both.

Baker had a bad pin. Do you remember when Gruden was talking about the turkey hole between the corner and the safety? He tried to slice into the turkey hole, corner made a great play on the boundary and intercepted it. I saw Mike Evans played well, though. Dude. Well, Mike Evans, who has been out for what, the last like 10 games, just shows up to work and has 132 yards. Like Mike Evans, low-key, going to be the Hall of Fame. Yes.

Not a high-key. Guarantee. Yeah, high-key. It's hard to get it as a wide receiver. High-key. Okay. Not with you. And he opened things up for Eggbegboo because he hasn't been himself later.

Finally. Yeah, you also have the rookie of the future. I got the offensive rookie in the year. Me too. It's been a rough month. Should have cash that out like four weeks ago. So this is really bad for the bucks. Those are two really bad losses.

Now, correct me if I'm wrong, do they have two games left with the Carolina Panthers? They do. All right. It's got to come down to that. But this season has. Panthers are in it in the division. Well, don't look now, but the Panthers right now are sitting in the fourth spot. in the NFC playoffs right now they have a home game in the NFC playoffs and yes they do play

the Buccaneers twice including you know not this weekend of course but next weekend the Panthers this weekend have the Saints so pretty likely Carolina right now is going to be a game up have you ever heard angry Todd Bulls that can't be a thing I Todd Bulls looks like the most mild-mannered dude there is in the NFL. And so here's Todd Bowles after the game last night. And I think he's upset with his players. What do you tell them in the locker maker?

It's inexcusable. You don't make excuses. You've got to fucking care enough where the shit hurts. You got to care enough where the shit hurts. It's got to fucking mean something to you. It's more than a job. It's your fucking livelihood. How well do you know your job?

How well can you do your job? Well, you can't sugarcoat that shit. It was in the fucking excusable and there's no fucking answer for it. It has no excuse for it. That's what you tell him in a lot. Look in the fucking mirror. Jesus Christ. Like seven bleeps? That was insane. I mean, for a guy who never shows any kind of emotion. It's going to be me. We're going to win the battle court tonight.

He somehow didn't show emotion there. He's still a guy that never shows emotion. But those those cross those cuss words mean more when it's like from that tone. You say cuss? I was caught between cuss and curse. Yeah, I say curse. I mix it in every now and then. Do we have another clip?

Yeah, we have more here. At this point, you've seen everything in the season. You know, the coaches have done everything they can do. This is a player-driven team in the last four or five weeks. You got to execute and they got to hold each other accountable. As a coach, you can sit there until you blew in the face until they start holding each other accountable and doing the little things right. And that's not everybody.

and we're talking about a small select few, but the small select few is what's getting us beat, and until that happens, it's not going to get right. So we've got to get up and go to work tomorrow, no matter how bad today looks. You've got to put it behind you, and we've got to win the last three games. We know that.

Why don't we play that? He didn't cuss once. So an inordinate amount of curse words, I don't say cuss. I don't know. It feels weird to me. An inordinate amount of curse words, and straight up blaming his players.

I don't know. You don't see it very often, man. So, like, select few is what loses the games. Like, he knows exactly who he's talking about. I'm sure the other guys are like, he's probably talking about. So by that math, like, by like week 14, you're just done coaching. Who's he talking about? Who's he talking about? Is he talking about bake? Do you not be talking about bake?

Is he talking about bake? I don't think so. They were 5 and 1 the Bucks. They're now 7 and 7, and they could totally miss the playoffs. That's not an option. Not going to happen. What does that mean, not an option? No, it's not an option.

Bucks are beating the Panthers twice. This can't be. It just can't be. It just can't be. It can't. The Bucks navigated the hard part of their schedule. They had an insane schedule so far, and they're tripping up over the Saints and the Falcons.

They're going to get this right. They're going to fix it. It just can't be. Those division games are tricky. That's why you play in a conference. You play in a division. All of a sudden, all of a sudden, you start playing games. Not a name people with the bullshit.

Thank you. A conference game is. is so difficult. Division rivals, they know your tendencies. Tell you, between Milwaukee and Tampa, not a good day to be a buck.

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miller brewing company Milwaukee Wisconsin 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. Don Lebertard. This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats. The other side of things, the Falcons, you know, this fantasy football playoffs going on right now. If you play fantasy football like this, the playoffs, and you started Kyle Pitts last night. Well, what I'm saying is, it feels like if you've been waiting five years for Kyle Pitts to be what, you know, you thought he was going to be when they drafted him, what number three overall, overall. It seems like maybe

they finally found him. Yeah. A hundred sixty-six yards, 11 catches, I mean, yeah, three touchdowns, but those can be random. But 11 receptions for 166 yards? Kyle Pitts. Did I see that was like the best tight end fantasy performance like ever? Just period? No, no way. Since like 2000 or something.

According to Hayden Winks, his 40.1 half-PPR points were the third most by a tight end in NFL history and most since 83 7% of the fantasy points he scored in his entire career were last night. Wow. Do you have the top two? Because I would like to guess.

I'd like to guess too. Kelsey's hat, I said 83, right? Kelsey maybe Shannon Sharp, I think he's had an incredible game and I think Kevin, Kellynne Winslow, senior has had an unreal game. Have I looked that up, that's on the top of the dome by the way. You have to go Gronkowski with one of the first two. I don't know. What do you don't know? I don't know. Antonio Gates could be up there.

Yeah, and I would go Antonio Gates. I go Grancowski and Antonio Gates with the two half-PPR with the two greatest fantasy performances. Darren Waller had a banger. Wallet had like a 200-yard game, I think, close to it. I know. I want to change. Jeremy, give me that answer. What's taking so long?

All right. I've got it. Do you want ppr or half-p-pr? Half-p-p-r. Kyle Pitts is fifth ever. That's that you just said he said he was third. Third probably since 83. Well, what we've been since 83?

Like, there are people before 83? They had no stats. I don't know what to tell you. This is what, they said that this is what I got here. Tidens were very perfect in the 50s, okay? Top two.

It's the stat that was given to me by the internet. So, Kyle Pitts, being at 40.1 and half PPR is number five. Number four, Kellyn Winslow. Junior or senior?

We don't talk about Junior. It's only senior. We don't talk about junior. Senior. Wow. It was in 1983 on December 11th. So what? How many years? 41.2 points. Then Rich Castor. I don't know. Back in 1972. What are the stats? Like, what are the stats? He goes, Pitts had 11 for 166 and three touchdowns. What a Kellan Wins will have.

Let's find out. I don't know how to, I'm trying to, it's weird. It's keep going. I love this list. Number two. Can you do the top 30? Mike Ditka 41.5 And then this is crazy On November 22nd 1981 Kellan Winslow Sr.

Wow I told you 50.9 I told you Kelly Winslow was a dog You know who's number 11? Taysam Hill How about that?

He had a monster game We had like six touchdown Two throwing You had a couple catching A couple running Tickle me with a couple of names Who else is out there? You got Jimmy Giles

No Heath Miller game Todd Christensen Hey, Brock Bowers, number 16. We got a Mark Bavarro sightings? Travis Kelsey, 21. Where's the big dog? DJ Hawkinson. That tickled me a little.

Pete Retzlap? How does that give you? You got a Keith Jackson, maybe? I've only got a top 25 here. Yeah, Keith Jackson, number 18. Not tickling me. I like Keith Jackson. Jackie Smith.

No, Shannon Sharp. Shannon Sharp's number eight. And number six. All right, good work there, Jeremy. No, algae crumpler. So, all right, so we can. 15 kicked off last night and the Buccaneers a very damaging loss, but may not be as damaging as what could happen this offseason in Cincinnati with the Bengals. Did you guys see this? So Joe Burrow,

you know, yesterday he met with the media and because, you know, football players, they can only meet with media once a week. And yesterday was Joe Burroughs day. Now, don't forget, Joe Burrow returned a couple of weeks ago. And one of the reasons he said he returned so quickly from the injury was Like, he owed it to his teammates. He felt bad. He didn't like sitting around and not playing. And he loves football. He's a football player.

Like, he specifically said he loves football. And yesterday, here he is. Very, very sad. You know, if I want to keep doing this, I have to have fun doing it. You know, I've been through a lot. And if it's not fun, then what am I doing it for? So that's the mindset I'm trying to bring to the table. How much fun are you having right now?

It's difficult to have fun given the season, what you've been through physically, emotionally, all of it? Is it tough? Yeah, certainly. Did you have fun playing? I mean, how much of it was fun before? Everything's always fun, but in general, was it as fun before you got hurt?

Did you view it that way, at least? No, I wouldn't say have you. I wouldn't say I viewed it that way, I think. What was the changing point? Changing point. I'm not sure there was a singular moment or time. It's just a reflection, reflection on a lot of things that I've done and been through in my career. I think I've been through more than most.

It's certainly not easy on the brain or the body, so I don't know, just trying to have fun doing it again. He's 29 years old. Sounds like Andrew Luck. That's what it immediately reminded me of, someone who's just been physically beat up like that. Well, I mean, no one sounds like Andrew Locke. Golly. But to your point, 86 games played for Andrew Luck sacked 174 times. Joe Burroughs played 13 fewer games, 73.

sack 203 times. That was crazy. Those quotes, that honesty. That is either a message to the league, come get me. It's certainly a message to the Bengals, fix this, or I'm gone. That's a dude contemplating retirement publicly. He invoked brain and head injuries. I've been through a lot personally, professionally. That was a shocking meeting avail. You look at the games played too. and you look at Andrew Luck and you remember kind of his career and I don't really remember a massive injury for Andrew Luck

that kept him out right like I think he had one time we had like a lacerated spleen or like a lacerated kidney or something but it feels pretty major yeah no sure okay but in the grand scheme of things I mean let's be honest that kept him out like two games if that but when you look at Joe Burrow and I did the deep dive a couple of weeks ago

where I was looking at I was like man how many times has he had a season ending injury and it's like more times than not than he's played he's had a season-ending injury. But again, the part that is most confusing to me about this was he rushed back. He rushed back a couple weeks ago and specifically talked about he felt like he was letting his team down and that he's a football player and he loves playing football. That was literally him before stepping onto the field with the sideline reporter where

she said to him, you know, why did you rush back? He's like, I'm a football player. I love to play. And just less than three weeks later, this, this is the guy we're getting now. We talked with Damashek on Football America about this a little bit, and he pointed out, like, it's also the fact that he's coming off of making a pretty devastating play at the end of the game that costs them an opportunity to continue their season. But he's brought back, right?

His team didn't do anything to keep themselves alive. He's brought back, hey, come back and win every single game in BR. savior. And that's got to be a really frustrating position to be in constantly over and over again is you're the only reason the organization is staying afloat. Every offseason, there's controversies over who's getting paid and who's not getting paid. The ownership group is laughed at constantly. And here you are propping everything up over and over again, no matter how great those receivers and weapons are that he has, nobody else can seem to keep this team alive. And he's brought back to be the hero. He faces a devastating loss. This is sort of like,

when you hear guys after the NBA finals contemplate retirement and ultimately come the next season it's it's not an issue but in this sport with this guy who's been beat up more than anybody it does feel a little bit real it also feels like the Bengals have mismanage his entire tenure right like let's be honest they they fell ass backwards like Cosmo Kramer they fell ass backwards into getting Jamar Chase getting Joe Burrow getting T Higgins and now they have to pay all those guys because what do you have you have to have great offense they haven't fixed anything on defense their offensive line and has been atrocious, has been mostly to blame for all the season-ending injuries that Joe Burroughs face

between the toe, between the knee, between the wrist, between all these different things. And it's like, Joe's there, they're trying to get me weapons. I have the weapons, but I don't have anything else. What am I going to do? I'll buy this as a threat to the Bengals, but I'm not buying this as like I'm sad, feel bad for me. I mean, get out of here. I'll do it. If no one else is going to do it, I'll do it.

He got all the money. The guy bought a Batmobile this past off season, dating supermodels. He decided against it. Okay. He almost bought it. I'm just saying. They didn't have the right kind. I'll take this as a threat to the Bengals. I'm not going to, I don't feel bad for Joe Burroughs life. I feel bad. He looks sad. I like that, please.

Amy, he's kind of cute. So I feel bad for him. By the way, it apparently it's really against character because Jamar Chase, Jamar Chase was asked about Joe Burroughs availability yesterday. Jamar Chase, who's around Joe Burrow every day, he thought that that was AI. I thought this is an AI. I'm not, did this really happen now? That's real? Yeah.

Well, it depends on what you saw. I don't really know nothing about it at the end of the day. You know what I'm saying? That's something. You might have seen something that we're not. I mean, but I've seen a little bit from the TV walking outside from practice and then, like, I turn my eyes, but I don't know nothing about it. He didn't believe it was real.

He agrees with me. He's like, that guy, sad? Get out of here. Did Joe Burrow just make it awkward at Bengals HQ? Jamar Chase's neck. Big Nass. That's how you know a football player. Good God.

The mock turtle. The mock turtle is a wise choice. Look at his neck. It's bigger than his ears. Do I look like a football player? No, my neck. Feel bad for his collar. What are my neck?

You look like a cyclone. Why do you have so many lines? Me? Your neck has a lot of lines. Abnormal amount of lines. It looks like you have like a prosthetic neck. Yeah, I got like a line right here. We all have those lines.

What are we doing to my boy? Let's all lift up our necks. Yeah, look, no. I don't have a fake eye on neck. You got a fake guy on neck. No, I don't have those kind of lines. I for sure got lines. I'm not even lifting my neck.

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Don Lebertard. To us, residents. Oh, wow. That's pretty good. I think I haven't been practicing? Stugats. I didn't realize we had a... Substitute Complicated Legacy

Brought to by Headquarters Toyota 441 and Powerline Road Second out of nine This is the Dan Levitar show With the Stugats So we got So we got like five games this weekend That are our clones

Okay Which is specifically for NFL, all right? Okay. You got like five. Because we got six games. Okay. Specifically NFL. You got five monster games. Like you got Bill's and Patriots, you got Packers, Broncos, Lions Rams.

There are some really good games this weekend. How much attention are we willing to give Philip Rivers in Indianapolis this weekend? Like that game's at 425. I'll be locked in. You're going to be locked in. Spiro Ditas has to be on the call for Philip Rivers and the Colt. He has to be. Who has Spiro Dita's number?

Text him right now. The Jigs. I'm a look right now who's on that. But Colts at Seahawks' 425 game. Like, you're into what Philip Rivers is going to look like. Absolutely. He's 40,000 years old. He's Methusel out there running around.

We saw him looking like, you know, jelly roll almost weight free. And it's like, what is he going to be? He doesn't know how much he weighs. He was asked, do you know how much you weigh? Do you know how much you weigh? I have a good ballpark. You got a ballpark? I weighed myself last week.

You think he's got a ballpark? He just doesn't want to say it? I think he's at a couple ballpark, Franks. Spiro Ditas is in Cincinnati this weekend. That's not right. Who they're playing? Baltimore. AFC North.

He's not an AFC North. Our boys climbing too much. Indianapolis at Seattle, it's the, I guess, I'm not trying to be insulting it. It's the D career for AFC. Andrew Catalan Charles Davis, Jason McCordy. C.D. Man, Charles Davis, they have pushed him down. He was with Ian Eagle, the two team like last season.

I ain't got J.J. Watt now. I hate that everyone's realized Spiro-Didis is good at this. I know. He used to be our Colts guy. I need him there. So, I mean, is Philip Rivers going to, like, is he going to make it through the game? Because he's going to start. He's going to start.

Is Philip River going to make it through the game this weekend? Because that Seattle team is really good. And if he does make it through the game, give me some stat lines here. This is like the best defensive league. Tony, give me a stat line. Let's say he makes it through the entire game. I say he's 50. for 26

a buck 83 and two picks I think this is going to be no touchdowns two picks I got one touchdown two picks I got one touchdown one punch you got him throwing a touchdown I think this is going to be real bad

he hasn't played in five years 15 for 26 a buck 83 two picks I remember what he looked like in that playoff game I remember him moving around he had his stat line in that last game's good

yeah guess so it was five years ago five years ago dude five years ago he's 44 years old I'm going nine for 21. Wow. 105 yards. Was he Justin Fields?

He's not in shape. And an interception. I think it's going to be ugly. Yeah, I think it's going to be bad. Tony, he's 44 and hasn't played in five years. He hasn't played in 1825 days. The fact that I think he's going to complete nine passes. I've got a eight for 17.

Okay. Eight for 17. A touchdown. Two picks. And 93. yards. Imagine Yeah, one little screen to Jonathan Taylor that Gary, mark all our predictions.

Imagine the Seahawks. Remind me. Scouting and breaking down film. Like, what is? They're laughing. Mike McDonald's like, they're breaking down standard death film. They go get McDonald's, right?

They're like, all right, this meeting's over. It's Philip Rivers, guys. See us Sunday. They're laughing. It's like they're breaking down film of the San Diego Chargers versus Oakland Raiders. Laddianian, Tomlinson. I mean,

running back, he's got there next to him right now, is pretty damn good. I mean, he's not Tomlinson. And finally, you got the chiefs who, I guess it's their last stand. I mean, they've got to win the rest of their games, have any shot of the playoffs. Like, they're not going to make the playoffs. But here's the problem. Chiefs are hosting the Chargers, all right? Here's my problem with the conversation around the Chiefs right now.

People who are talking about the Chiefs and what they have to do and Patrick Mahomes making it sound like we're watching some kind of tragedy. It's a tragedy that the Kansas City Chiefs are going to miss the playoffs. They're going to miss the playoffs. And for the first time in his career, Patrick Mahomes will not be in an AFC championship game. I got to tell you, and obviously a lot of it has to do with being a dolphin fan. Spare me with how sad it is what we were watching with the Kansas City Chiefs. As if they can't have a down year, there's not going to be a season that they don't make the AAC championship game.

Like, it's this unheard of thing that the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes can somehow miss the playoffs. Get the hell out of here. It's also funny when you think of the dynastic teams in the ASC and the NFL. It's like Brady had the one year where they didn't make the playoffs because he got hurt and wasn't there. And they still went, what, 11 and 5 in that castle? And then you look at the trajectory of the Chiefs and it's like, oh, can they catch Brady? Can they be the better team than Brady's? That was always so ridiculous.

And it's like, dude, do we not remember how great those pages? team's world. I'm glad you brought that up. Where he was there every single year and it didn't matter what was happening, who was there, like they were in the AFC championship game. I'm glad you brought that up because, you know, we're talking about all the chiefs, they're going to have to reset, what are going to do, how they can help Patrick Mhombs moving forward. And it just shows you how insane the conversation was last year that Patrick Mahomes is going to have a chance to catch Tom Brady and his seven Super Bowls. I mean, Mahomes has already won three, which is incredible. He's not going to come close to Brady's seven. It's so hard what Brady did. Not only that, he

had his first career, right, where he won three. Brady's potentially had three Hall of Fame careers. Yes. He had that first set of his career. Then he had the injury, almost perfect season. Now, an entire other Hall of Fame career. And where are we in the Patrick Mahomes level? This is basically the first of Brady's Hall of Fame career. Now Patrick Mahom has to put together another Hall of Fame career. And I think it's pretty unlikely. Yeah, pretty unlikely. If this is the first season, not a Hall of Fame career. This is the line in the sand season, right?

This is the last season of the first Hall of Fame career? Exactly right. I think it's the first of the second. But my God, miss me with the whole, I mean, how sad. Oh, my God, can you believe Chiefs are going to miss the playoffs. I'm trying to win a playoff game here. Dolphins haven't won a playoff game in 25 years. Oh, my God, the Chiefs are going to miss the playoffs one season.

What else cares? Give me a break. My God. All right. Everybody calm down. I've got a game. who is the last person to catch a touchdown pass from Philip Rivers? In that playoff game that he had against the Buffalo Bills, they lost.

So technically, like, it doesn't, it's not even official. Well, all right, so we could, I have both. I can give you his last regular season. Okay. Touchdown catch. That was with Indianapolis. They didn't make the playoffs, though. They did.

They did. They did. Oh, okay. They did make the playoffs. At Buffalo. Anthony Gonzalez. Jack Doyle. Moecox.

Mike got it. It's Jack Doyle. Really? Jack Doyle caught that last touchdown. Beautiful, man. Just a great trussie set of hands. A wide receiver caught the final regular season one. Anybody got it?

It's a name we should all know. T.Y. Hilton. That's right. This game was not fun. The part where you said it's a name we should all know. Well, once he got Jack Doyle, it was over for everybody. So, huge NFL weekend, lots of big games. If we could take a few minutes here and talk about the big,

story that's been in college football the last 48 hours. So I guess at some point we're going to learn this morning. We're going to get some factual information, right, in regards to the former Michigan coach, Sean Moore, because there's been a lot of rumors and innuendo and, you know, we don't really know what's what, but he is going to be in front of a judge this morning where he's being arraigned, and we're going to learn charges against him. So finally, this morning, we'll learn some kind of. of facts as far as what's going on with the coach here.

I don't really know what to expect because it's weird that he hasn't actually, like he hasn't actually, has he been, has he technically been arrested? Detained. Detained. But he's going to go in front of a judge this morning and they're going to announce charges against him. So I guess the investigation warrants charges. Yeah. So can you be arrested if you're already in a holding cell?

I guess not. I don't think so. Like you're already there. Like, you're already there. like you're being arraigned yeah he's being a rain this morning so we'll so we'll learn like what was real what was not real but i will tell you something a lot of the discourse that i've seen you know really yesterday mostly yesterday on social media and i know social media can be a real vile place but i got to tell you i don't like all the stuff coming the females way i don't like

all the stuff coming the girls way and all the criticism directed at her and the nasty language being used toward her that's like that shit bothers me I've got to say, least favorite story ever. This is awful. Yeah. This is all bad. People's lives are destroyed. Yep.

I guess I could entertain, like, what does this mean for Michigan? And everyone's going to be, like, hiring the next coach over there. It is okay to talk about that. Like, that's a real thing. But this story, hate it. Hate it. Awful for everybody involved. And you could tell, like, once it got out there, people were getting their jokes off.

I'm like, this is going to age poorly. It aged poorly in record time. Yeah. And especially, this is one of those instances where you're, it confirms, and a lot of it's passion, but also the passion turns to some real vile shit, where college football fans can be the absolute worst. Yep. Just such a tribalism. Like there's none of the pro sports, and I have a college basketball, although college basketball, college basketball are not too far behind, but none of the pro sports even compare. to what you get from the college football fan

in a scenario like this. We're like just the Ohio State fan is just teeing off, okay? Michigan State, too. They're going to nuts. Everything is funny, and it's a lot of pointing and laughing, and it's like, man, the college football fan is a completely different breed.

Yeah, I mean, even how we learned about this story, because if you trace down the roots, it's originated from a guy that had this scoop. He's a Michigan State reporter, Justin Spiro, but like the way that he was reporting it is very new age and that he was reveling kind of in this story. Oh, really? Yeah, no, like there's memes, there's a fair amount of shit posting, but like he got the story and he'd been on it for months.

You go back to like August. He'd been putting it out there? Yeah, you go back to August. This guy was alluding to it. He had the scoop, but this was something, and you tracked down the tweets, like this was something that was in message boards for Ohio State and Michigan State for weeks on end. But I'll tell you what's pretty tough. Okay, so you're telling me that that guy, that report, that he's at least been putting stuff out for the last couple months,

whether or not anyone's picked up on it, I don't know. But I'll tell you what's pretty tired. And you've seen a lot of this over, you know, you saw a lot of this yesterday, a little bit the day before, where you have the media people who are coming out with the, you know, I heard this back then. I heard this back then. And it's like, all right, well, I mean. No, I'm with them not reporting it This is one you say away from

I'm with them not reporting it too The part that I don't like is You now tell us Hey, I knew about it Shut up Like I'm good with not reporting it Because this is really sensitive information You want to let us know that you knew?

I don't need to know that you were in That you knew Okay, either report it Or I think you shouldn't And if you do the right thing and don't report it I don't need to know that you knew I could potentially have some keen insight especially if, like, you're doing background on the coaching search and what recruits are saying, like, because there is a theory that they knew that they were going to do this for a couple of weeks.

You know what happened before they decided to do that, well, in between them deciding to do it, and actually it happening. Losing to Ohio State. And signing day. Right. Signing Day, too. That's the kind of dirty part of this business. Okay, so you don't believe then that the woman showed up with evidence? Because apparently Ward Manuel did ask both the coach and the woman about him hearing about an improper relationship.

They both said, no, this is not going on. Well, at that point, like, what can you do? There were reports. You know, go into a lie detector? Okay, I guess everything's okay. There were reports on the internet that maybe someone's story changed. You know, this story is going to, someone's got to do a deep dive on this story, and a lot of stuff is going to come to light. I am interested in what Michigan knew, given their very recent history on the matter.

And I think that actually has like real ramifications, depending on what they knew. We'll see what happens with Ward as well, because I think that that's interesting. A lot of stuff has happened on his watch. I'm stunned if he keeps his job. I really am. Stunned. It's not the greatest, in terms of optics, it's not the greatest track record. You know, like I forget who the one, Auerbach, NBC's.

Sports? Yeah, Nicole. Nicole Auerbach, who is a very pro- Notre Dame. Oh, is that right? Too much. Yeah, I think she's yeah, NBC Sports. And a very good reporter. Very good reporter, but...

The Notre Dame thing. The Notre Dame thing, that's a checkmark on the wrong side. But she reported yesterday how Ward Manual fired Shromor with no HR rep around and no security presence. And if you've ever been fired or let go from a job,

within a corporation or wherever, there's always an HR person there in the room and sometimes security as well. And this was not the case with firing Sharon Moore. And I feel like when they put that, like when you have that report out there, when this information comes out, it's almost like you're set in the table for what the athletic director has done wrong, what they've done wrong during this process. I feel like it's a little bit of set in the table there for him eventually having the

fingers pointed at him. And I'd be surprised if he didn't lose his job, especially because the amount of scandal that has surrounded that athletic program. I guess it all depends on what we find out here, because this is inviting a lot of journalists to do some digging. How do we transition from this? It's a terrible story. Tough spot. Very tough spot. I know how. It's Battle Court Championship Day. Oh, George Clooney. George Clooney. Look, he can't even frown. It's impossible. He doesn't have to turn that frown upside down.

That's a smile. It's a sesta that is also a smile. Wow. Next level stuff here from George Clooney. What is the plan? You know, you don't want to jinx anything, but you need to be prepared for a celebration. If you win, have you rented out like some space somewhere? I have a venue that you don't want to jinx it.

I know, but you got to be prepared. As an owner, you have to make preparation. and stuff. So, yeah, we have a plan. You do not want to miss this championship celebration. And Jeremy may not be there for the game, but he will be along the parade, right? Absolutely.

I'll be there, goggles in hand, preparing myself to not get champagne in the eyes. We'll be hoisting babies? Yeah, I hope everyone's hoisting babies because it'll be that type of celebration of the cyclones. Actually, when the cyclones take this home. Wow. And I'll be there in spirit. And Tony would be there.

With spirits. I would. I would be there. I'd love to be there. Well, you might because your window opens at five. You might be there. Maybe. Yeah, you just took a call. Was it about the pod? Did it help? If the pod comes at five, you're going to be there. I got a reserve court side seats. Yeah. Okay. I don't believe you're going. Does he get like a drink ticket as well? If you're in the owner's box, you get drinks. You're taking care of. What about court side seats? Courtside's not so much. Jeremy, you ever sat court side? Yeah, I've been there. Okay. No, I mean for any events. Are you going to be locked in? I've been court side. I've been court side for events. I'm going to have it on, I'm going to have it on my iPad while I'm going to have your audience on it? Yeah. Because you are a co-owner. Oh, okay. You know this, right? Well, I know it now.

How many championship rings do you have? I have two. Guess what? I can get another? You can be another, you can be part of another championship franchise. Now, my Miami Heat Championship rings, they have my name on them. Okay. Will this one have my name?

I'm not going to make rings. All right. I don't want to pay that. But I'll make shirts. Hey, you are. At least I'll acknowledge. I love a shirt. I'm acknowledged.

in some fashion. I made bomber jackets for one edition of the team, and they were very expensive. They were very nice, very nice jackets, but... Thick. Very expensive. No, I'm going to make sure everybody knows. I'm on ESPN. Today, I'm going to make sure everybody knows they can put it on the app, they can watch the Cyclones, try and win a championship. There you go. How do you think it's going to shake out today? I don't know. I don't really know the rules and stuff. The wrong person ask. You know, I know you've got the polota and...

All right? It's a start, right? That is. Yeah. Serves have to land between the four and seven. Probably got to get more points than the other team. That's probably significant. Ball can't bounce twice. Yeah. Outside of that, you got it. You're locked in.

Stu and Andrew, they do a great job of explaining the rules.