The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Anyway... MVP! MVP! MVP! (feat. David Samson)
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The people in video have found that Mendality is indeed a word, and I have.
Mamba Mendality from miss speaking. I require trauma therapy from a company called
mendality. The Mamba mentality, it's totally different. It sounds so much weaker than Mamba
mentality to just change the T to a D. I feel like you're doing more damage to me there than we
did to the Wizards when we changed their Wizard W to an L and made them the lizards.
David Samson is with us. Hopefully he will be with us on Sunday as we plan.
Oscar and Selection Sunday party. And I want to ask the group here with kids before we get to
David Samson. So Tony, Mike, and Chris, Roy had to depart. He has an emergency to attend to.
But when you have kids, what kind of notice do I have to give you to get you out of town?
because Adnan Verk is complaining that we only gave him 11 days notice,
and 11 days for us is a miracle.
Like, that is unbelievable.
It's like a year.
Like, we had a year to know when the Oscars were and when Selection Sunday was,
but for us to give people 11 days notice on anything here is a miracle,
what's the proper amount of notice to give somebody who has four kids
so that you can get them down here to Miami?
I feel like the older they are, the quicker.
turnaround you can kind of go, right? Like my daughter's 14 months, but Mike's daughter's
probably five or six. So it's like a little bit of an easier kind of thing where you can be like,
all right, Juliet, you're going to go do X, Y, and Z. For me, for my daughter, it's like,
you're 14 months. You can't even walk. What do we do? So I need a little extra buffer of a time.
But 11 days, Dan, I could come back three times in 11 days. So that is enough time?
Because Adnan's complaining about it. Adnan's saying he can't be down here because we didn't
give them enough note. I mean, yeah, we'd all agree. But culturally, we have a problem with
this. Like 11 seems like a lot of time for us, as you mentioned. David, what are your thoughts here?
I think that you have to plan things more than 10 days in advance because it's not just about,
remember, he's got a lot of other stuff on the schedule, a lot of places to be. It's not
about kid coverage necessarily, but getting flights and I don't know why I'd be bringing his
kids. It's not a vacation. It's for work. But maybe it's the weather, I guess, but it doesn't
matter. I think 11 days should have been enough for Oscars, but for a general,
sort of coverage down there, you need more than 11 days?
He has two jobs as well. Adnan and Verk is perpetually working, so that is part of the
equation as well. But he filed it under the four kids umbrella because it sounds better.
It doesn't sound like he's making us his third priority.
But we will have him as a part of the coverage. He will just not be down here.
I wanted to ask the group here before we get to some finances with David.
Why are we so obsessed with the money in football where every contract that Daniel
Jones signs. We know it to the dollar in a way that we don't even know movies and entertainment,
right? You might hear an actor made $19 million for a movie, but it's never to the dollar in a way
that it is in sports. And don't tell me salary cap, because it's not like anything, it's not like
the average fan cares about the apron or really knows or understands what a salary cap is in basketball
or football. Why do we care so much? And do we do it much of anywhere else where we're obsessed with
the amounts on these contracts? I just think it's when an actor gets a role, it's not like we
know the contract beforehand, right? Like when Trey Hendrickson signed his deal four for 112,
they report that as part of the deal. And like Leo's making, I don't know how much for
one battle after another, it didn't get reported when they started. Yeah, if they started disclosing
it in a similar fashion on the front end, you would care more about it. It's, it's part of the
appeal of the sport. And no, it's not just about the cap, as you mentioned. In baseball, those
contracts are reported on probably more than any.
of the other major sports in this country. David, though, you're old enough to remember. We didn't
used to do this. I don't remember when this started, but I never knew what athletes made early in my
career. That wasn't something that was known. Yeah, there were always lists. It was always leaked by the
players union, what the salaries were of all the players. And it's really not disclosed by teams.
We would say terms not disclosed, but then it gets leaked, and we would not deny it off the
record to members of the media. But the contracts get approved by,
by the union and by the commissioner's office,
and there's always leaks within one of those two bodies.
And there's also leaks in your organization.
The reason why we're obsessed, we're all obsessed with money always.
We get the, you know, the Forbes 500,
the Forbes Fortune 100, 500 companies,
who are the richest people?
You get the list of movie stars, you do get,
who made the most money this last 12 months.
When George Clooney sells his tequila company
or whatever it was,
you find out how much money he made.
There's an obsession with money there always has been.
David, I'm telling you that at the beginning of my career,
I know baseball has fiddled with this because the agents do want everyone to know what their client has making.
And I think baseball started this.
I do remember the John Concax of the world,
but there was a time very early in my career where I simply did not see numbers and athletes getting this kind of coverage for the numbers.
This was not always the case.
Well, the numbers are so different now. They're just, they're out of this world when you can have schleppers at the end of the bench making five, $10 million. And you mentioned CONCAC. The young people may not understand that, but that has become the example that's used for what it is when you have to get to a salary floor where you just have to overpay people who stink. And that's what the NBA is right now. There's so many overpaid guys because they've got to get to a number. And in the NFL, it's sort of the opposite in a lot of ways where you're finding that the cap.
can really be a constraint on the team building in a lot of ways and how you have to try to avoid the cap.
So baseball, I don't know where you were, Dan.
You just weren't focused on it, but the numbers have been around for 50 years.
To David's point, I remember when Dylan Brooks got cut by Memphis, everybody's like, man, he's never going to get another job.
Houston's like, hey, we need to raise the salary floor.
Give him $84 million over four years.
He ended up being a decent player now with Phoenix.
But it's like numbers like that stick with you.
I don't know if it's the numerology of like $4.84 or whatever.
Austin Crozier. They paid him $53 million and I was confused by it. But the reason I bring all of this up is at least in part because what I've just seen happen in football. Do you guys know what Kenneth Walker got off the top of your head, right? This is a Super Bowl MVP.
Off the top of your head, do you all know what Kenneth Walker got from the chiefs?
I do. I do. So I'm going to, I'm going to refrain. I do not. I don't. I know he got three years, but I have no idea what the number was.
He got three years $45 million, and to me it was a little bit strange, right?
That's Bradley Chubb money.
This is the Super Bowl MVP, and it's not just the Super Bowl MVP.
Kansas City was very bad at 10-yard runs last season,
and Kenneth Walker was very good at 10-plus yard runs.
I would think that would have more value than Bradley Chubb.
I would think, are you guys aware?
Jalen Phillips just got four years $120 million.
Kenneth Walker is younger than Jalen Phillips, and his body is in better condition than Jalen Phillips,
and Jalen Phillips just got four years, a hundred-something million.
But this is all positional value in the NFL, and it makes perfect sense.
But when you mentioned Kenneth Walker, there was a clip that we missed from the championship celebration.
I'd love to get your take and David's take.
David, do you think John Schneider, the Seahawks GM, might have tipped his hand here
on how the negotiations with Kenneth Walker were going.
This is video from the championship parade.
to Ken Walker being the MVP, let's go!
He tried negotiating with me five minutes ago.
It was really weird.
That's Kenneth Walker right next to him,
staring off into the distance, haunted and hollow.
Yeah, and it's good to see what Sugatz is up to.
He wants me to give him money.
Anyway.
Stugats would have done all of this,
including the awkward left hand of,
you know what I've got in my holster?
An MVP chit to knock off this.
awkwardness. One more time because
Kenneth Walker's shaking his head the entire
time. Just lock into Kenneth
Walker. Looks so much like Stugats.
Ken Walker being the
MVP, let's go! He tried
negotiating with me five minutes ago.
It was really weird. Hey,
MVP! MVP!
MVP!
I want to
hold on. I want to analyze
all of this. But Samson, first, your thoughts.
And please, Chris, I want you
to just isolate for me
the unbelievable silence at a celebration parade
because the awkwardness neutered all of the noise
in a way that made you be able to hear
two or three awkward, isolated laughs at a parade
because the general manager had just done something so stupid.
David, your thoughts on that?
Are you suggesting the stupidity
because he knew already that he wasn't retaining Walker?
Walker knew already he wasn't being retained.
So there was nothing to support.
I'm surprised. Walker may have been thought, thought that he was being embarrassed by that, by the disclosure of negotiation, but it wasn't a negotiation.
What happens in those parades or what would happen, you know, when you see each other in the lunch from like, hey, man, you got 60 for me?
I got 60. Come on, I need 60. And the GM's like, dude, come on, man, no, I don't got 60.
I'm sure they had a very honest conversation about it. So I don't think there's bad blood. Not resigning an MVP.
This is a real big whoop. It's fine.
I don't think Kenneth Walker appreciated that very much.
Like, he clearly wanted to stay in Seattle,
and maybe he was trying to, you know, have one last, you know,
one last gas but trying to get the GM to keep him.
And John Schneider's thought,
this guy over here thinks I'm going to pay him.
I don't think he liked it very much.
All right.
No, he clearly did not like any of it,
but I need to play all of this again, the entirety of it because, okay,
First of all, this is just great, great video.
One, I can't believe how much the best general manager in football looks like Stugat.
But also, how he barrels through the awkwardness.
Watch the specifics of the left hand.
First of all, you've got a red solo cup in one hand.
Of course you do.
And after the awkwardness, the fact that the left hand goes out,
tell me you guys don't recognize Stugats just in this sausage finger left hand situation.
to Ken Walker being the MVP?
Let's go!
He tried negotiating with me five minutes ago.
It was really weird.
Anyway, hey, MVP, MVP, MVP.
Can we just focus in, focus in here real quick on just Kenneth Walker's face.
I'm sorry to do this to you, David, but I just, I don't want to watch anything else except that left hand come in awkwardly because we're zoning in on the entire.
of Kenneth Walker's face throughout that
so that you guys can just see him looking at the back
of his general manager's head.
Stu Gaut's his head and thinking to himself,
I'm going to be in Kansas City in a couple of days.
He tried negotiating with me five minutes ago.
It was really weird.
Anyway.
That is such great silence.
The laughter afterward is so very good.
Hey, Roy, buddy.
You know that energy shift
when the game gets good?
and everybody altogether in unison knows to stand up on their feet.
Oh, absolutely, Mike.
Yeah, you've been at many big time sporting events.
You know that moment quite well.
That's what it's like when you take your first sip of Cuervo.
Oh, delicious.
It's the signal that says, we're not checking the time anymore, pal.
It's when small talk turns into stories.
Quervo, man, it's at high five a random stranger effect.
That's right.
The game is popping.
You're hugging people you never met before.
That's the kind of energy that Cuervo brings.
It's so smooth, so delicious.
That's the Cuervo effect.
Keep it, Cuervo.
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Taitas.
Stugats.
Taitas.
This is the Dan Levitar show with the Stugats.
Can you take us through, David, the Max Crosby situation
and what it is that you found most interesting about what happened there?
Are the Raiders now, can the Raiders even sign all those guys they signed?
Or do they have a problem there with being able to sign the guys they signed?
Because now they'd be over the salary cap again if they have Max Crosby.
Well, there were certainly announcements made,
but it's unclear whether or not there were actual agreements.
and whether the players that the Raiders
purportedly signed are part of their roster.
You're not officially on a team
until you're entered into the computer
where you are added to the roster of that team
and that's when you start with all the cap calculations, et cetera.
What surprised me was DeCosta coming out and saying he was gutted.
Well, guess what? It was your decision.
You failed him.
I've had plenty of guys who come in and their shoulders
are, you know, torn up and their elbows look like crap
and they've got arthritis in their hips,
and you just do the trade anyway.
What's the difference?
He was in charge of that,
and so you can't both be gutted and deny the trade.
You could say that they were embarrassed,
maybe they realized they gave up too much,
and once they lost their center,
and they lost two first round picks,
they were like, well, maybe we can pivot to Hendrickson,
and they chose to do that,
but then don't say you're gutted.
And if he failed as physical,
then don't say you're gutted,
just say, hey, we've made.
we've moved on and we couldn't be happier with Trey Hendrickson.
Life happens for a reason.
So I thought that his take on it was supposed to make us feel badly for him, and I certainly don't.
Well, let's play that Eric DeCosta sound, the Ravens General Manager for the audience.
We don't have that sound.
I'm getting it right here.
Okay.
I was told that we had that sound.
I do want to ask, though, David.
I know, look, it's Bush League what Eric DeCosta.
and the Ravens did. I understand that perspective of it.
And it looks bad. But isn't this literally what the two-day illegal tampering period
from Monday afternoon to Wednesday afternoon when the league here officially begins?
Like, isn't this what that 48-hour period is forward?
Hey, we just came up with an agreement.
And as long as everything checks out, we'll make it official on Wednesday.
Like, did the Ravens really do anything wrong?
Yeah, no. You get that 40-hour period.
at our period. You can get that whenever you want. Whenever you make a deal, you sign what's called
an LOI, a letter of intent. And in that LOI, it's not binding because they're outs for physical.
Sometimes you can do an LOI with an out for an owner approval. Those are not as popular,
but if you sneak that into a trade agreement, like, hey, we agree to this trade, but we got to
get final sign off by the owner. That's always funny. But you have sign off by the commissioner's
office is required, and then you have a physical, and either you pass or you fail.
Either you accept the LOI and make it into a binding agreement, or the trade just goes away.
And in this case, the trade just went away.
I don't blame either side of it, but if you're the Raiders, it stinks, because clearly
they've got to come out and they've got to tell the other 30 teams that they're dealing with,
not counting themselves and the Ravens, and they've got to build Crosby's value back, because
we love to call on players who we know had an LOI but then a trade didn't go down,
we would call and say, hey, we'll take them.
But by the way, we're offering 10 cents on the dollar,
but you obviously need to move them for a roster spot or for money or for whatever.
We'll take them.
So I assume there are a bunch of snipers trying to get Crosby right now,
and that's a bad thing.
I wouldn't assume that.
I think they've told everybody in the league he's damaged.
I would not assume that.
That's an awful lot of stuff to give up for a guy who has declined the last two years,
at least in part because his body doesn't work right.
That's what a sniper is.
That means you don't, you get let you offer less.
There's no two first round picks out there right now for Crosby.
The sniper comes and says, I'll give you a fourth rounder and a conditional second rounder
because if you got to move them, you got to move them.
And then that could be the makings of a deal, at which point the Raiders are like,
this is ridiculous.
I'm not going to trade him at his low like this.
That's the risk you take when you enter into a trade agreement pending a physical,
is that the quality and the value of your asset will decrease.
So the Raiders apparently have told all of their free agents
who they've come to agree to terms with.
They've told all of them, we're still honoring these deals.
We do have the money.
So apparently they are going to be able to afford them.
But like David, Max Crosby late last night put out a tweet saying everything happens for
a reason, believe nothing you hear in half of what you see.
I'm a Raider.
I'm back.
Run that shit.
And it's a jiff of the undertaker being born again coming out of a casket.
Like, does that mean, like, did the Raiders then tell him, okay, we're definitely not trading you?
Like, why would he put that out?
Boy, I would hope they wouldn't say that to him because that's probably not true.
So you would never tell a player that you're not going to trade him because everybody's likely to get traded or certainly possible.
There could be if someone else, let me say this.
If another team pulls up with two first rounders, you can bet that Crosby is gone immediately.
So I would assume the Raiders wouldn't be that stupid.
But again, it's the, you just never know.
But for Crosby, it's a tough position.
You don't want to feel as though you're not valued by a team, which is he went to Baltimore, folks.
He was like introduced by them.
He did a whole thing publicly about how much he enjoyed the Raiders,
but now he's all about Baltimore bringing a championship to Baltimore.
And now he's got to, you know, sit on it and get back to Vegas.
It's just a sucky situation for players, but it's part of the business.
that situation where he obviously had a knee surgery in January, so it's pretty recent.
The doctors know kind of what the deal is.
It wasn't a major structural damage.
It was repairing a meniscus.
Like, that's kind of an everyday situation.
But when they fail the physical like that, don't you figure there's got to be something
else in that they saw?
I know the Raiders at the end of last year wanted him to be out of games, and he would
show like him shooting a basketball being like, I'm fine, there's nothing wrong with me.
And they got in trouble with kind of circumventing what the rules are a little bit.
But like, the doctors know what's going on, right?
Yeah, there's a possibility that there was a trial balloon of this trade.
And all of a sudden, the press was so negative that they lost their center and two first round picks that the Ravens decided, forget it.
I'm going to back off this trade because I overpaid.
That's possible.
The other possibility is that they looked at Crosby's films and saw something worse than his knee that maybe the Raiders had not focused on.
That's possible.
but what's more likely is that he was exactly as advertised.
There was one set of medicals that got exchanged.
They look at the films.
I think they knew.
Let me say this.
There's not a player we ever acquired.
Even Henderson Alvarez, who when we got him from Toronto, we looked in and we were like,
oh, that's worse than we thought, damn it, what are we going to do with him?
So you see that once in a while, but I wouldn't say that there's an MRI that you get and you look and you say,
oh my god his elbow ligament is is totally off the freaking bone and it was never talked about
within between the trainers that really doesn't happen uh can you guys put up on the poll for me
please juju uh do you circumvent anything other than rules like when you use the verb circumvent
is it used for anything other than rules i also want you guys to put on the screen before
we play the entirety of the video
the look of a very scared Eric DeCosta.
You guys tell me whether the Ravens general manager here looks frightened to you.
As you see, he's got to answer questions about doing business poorly with the Raiders.
Go ahead and cue that sound.
I mean, I understand it.
You know, I understand it.
We live in that age of skepticism and people question, especially people that don't really know me
or know the Ravens culture and the Ravens organization.
So I understand it.
As I said at the beginning, we've got a responsibility.
I've got a responsibility to the Ravens, to this community, to our fans, and to Steve Bishotti,
to do what we think is best for the club.
And that's what we always try to do.
Every decision we make is based on this idea.
Is this the best thing for the Ravens?
It's very, very challenging.
Again, I understand how people might, maybe from afar would feel that way.
But nobody's more upset about this than me.
gutted by it, actually. And so I regret, a big regret for me. But we will move on as a football
team. And I think there's many, many opportunities for us to grow as a team, to become a better team,
to build the roster. I don't know. I think the Raiders are more upset. Me too.
Is he upset, though, because he looks like a dirty businessman in public because the Raiders,
what the Raiders sent out might as well have said, hey, Ravens, go bleep yourself. We'll have no
further comment. Like, hey, the Ravens did us dirty. That was unbelievably dirty. That guy's an
asshole. We have no further comment. Like that, that's what the comment read like, even though it was,
you know, sanitized. It's why I believe, Dan, that there could be something else going on, that it could
have been from a PR standpoint that they just, the owner may have called up to Kost and said,
dude, two first rounders and now we lost our center. It looks like that's the worst trade in the history
of trades. So there is a possibility that that is the reason. And then you can always blame it on
medical concerns because that's like saying your back hurts. No one can prove that it doesn't.
And you can just get away with having a bad back even when your back is fine. So you can get
away with saying no trade because of medical concerns. And the truth is it was no trade because
you were getting your ass kicked in PR. David, weren't you part of one of these trades where someone
was sent back Colin Ray with the Padres? Like what was the deal when that happened? There was an
injury when he was pitching.
Couple times, right?
Wasn't Mike Hampton something similar?
Well, no, Mike Hampton just wouldn't be a Marlin.
He just did not want to, he didn't want to come to Marlins.
School systems in Colorado.
That's why he signed with Colorado.
But when we wanted to trade for him, he wouldn't come here because he wanted to win a championship.
And to do that, he had to go to Atlanta.
And the irony is we won the championship.
Atlanta didn't.
He and I had a funny talk about that recently.
But yeah, Colin Ray, that's a crazy one.
That would be the equivalent of Max Cross.
Crosby coming to the Ravens, playing a game with the Ravens in week one,
and then all of a sudden getting hurt, and then the league steps in and says,
hold on a second, something weird happened, and Max Crosby gets sent back to the Raiders
after playing a game with the Ravens.
Only a few of you may remember.
Colin Ray pitched a game for the Marlins after we traded for.
Do you guys think you can get a Crosby Ravens jersey?
Because I imagine that would have some worth if we were able to get a red.
Like if I were a Ravens, if I was Stavi, I would go to the games in a Crosby Ravens jersey
because of how close that was to happening.
Do you think you can actually get one?
I bet Ju-Ju will have one on today.
You can get one made, but do you think the Ravens had any made, I guess, is what I,
do you think you could get it through the Ravens?
No.
You don't need to make up during an off-season unless they were doing a press conference
jersey avail where they unveil the jersey, like when you shake hands and hold up the
jersey. Unless that had been planned, there'd be no reason for the clubby to make up the official
jersey because they're offseason. Something that I cannot help but notice, David, the World
Baseball Classic is so wonderfully colorfully Hispanic that Juan Soto is doing home run trots that
I've never seen him do in Washington and New York because he's surrounded by such a Dominican,
and he's surrounded by such a frenzy in the stands.
Yesterday here locally, and it's as good as the stadium that you built, David,
has ever felt in terms of press box shaking and just overrun by Latin people.
Listen to just some of the ambient sound and watch Soto run the bases here,
where he's pointing at the sky and just really enjoying the flourish of all this.
Tony was there, and he'll have some stuff for you tomorrow on that,
because he says the whole place was shaking.
Listen to the ambient sound on Fernando Tatis hitting a home run.
The first base yet, not the first base yet, and now he's at first base.
He never got there, actually.
He's still walking around.
It was some of the most incredible baseball.
The vibes were so high, and every time that somebody would come up to bat
and you'd hear the crack of the bat, the place would explode.
You couldn't even hear after a certain point.
And you would watch the guy's bat flip 45 feet in the air.
Soto threw his bat basically to the dugout.
Tatees was incredible. Soto was incredible.
Soto was incredible.
incredible. Vladdy was incredible. Like everybody was so, so hype. Tony and I were at the bar out
in left field watching from there during the inning where Catelle Marte and then later on,
Vlad Guerrero Jr. ends up hitting a home run. And when Guerrero Jr. hit the homer, not only is
the entire area exploding, people throwing their hats, dancing with each other, but also as
Vladi crosses home plate, and I couldn't see exactly which two players it was from where we were,
one player hops on another player's back
and he sprints down the first base line
with the piggyback going on.
It was insane.
The energy level and the noise was amazing, David.
I'm so happy that you guys enjoyed that.
That's a couple things, guys.
Number one, we've had World Baseball Classics
with Dominican and Venezuela before that were also loud.
It's amazing.
Number two, Dan, it's not a Latino thing.
If you went to the Tokyo Dome,
That place was so loud when Otani hit the grand slam
that you could not believe the noise that goes on.
So there are other fan bases
in addition to the Latin fan bases
that are loud and excited.
And number three, Mike, is that I don't ever want to hear from you again,
ever. Not one time that you're upset about Marlins Park
because just that one game by itself
makes Marlins Park a deal worth doing
and what it does for Miami.
So for me, I am very, I'm very,
very happy. I really am. I don't have to worry about that because I just lost all respect for you.
You won't be hearing from me.
How does that one game?
Should not watch Devin Hester's kickoff return, pal?
How does that one game make that stadium worth it?
Jeremy couldn't get home because he couldn't get an Uber in the...
Oh, it was a nightmare.
In what that neighborhood is after games, because you promised us an economy would build around that stadium.
And all there is is that one stupid Wendy's.
Wait, I'm very sorry. It's totally easy.
Ingress and egress out of Dolphin Stadium.
That is a piece of cake.
And, oh, the AAA after a game, don't worry, Biscayne moves like jello through the river.
Give me a break.
Now do Amher and Bank Arena on Sunrise.
I know.
I love that one.
There's so many exits for that one.
There's 360 degrees worth of exits, but you're in the Everglades, so there's that.
Just as someone that's taken ride shares from all of these sporting venues locally,
I went to the Winter Classic at that ballpark
easily the worst experience of them all, like by triple.
I'm sorry.
Don Lebertard.
Go peepotard.
Stugats.
Go peepee.
This is the Don Levitar show with a Stugats.
World Baseball Classic final in 2023 and the Winter Classic.
It was electric.
Why did David just say to us, I'm glad you guys enjoyed all of that?
It sounded like there was an undercurrent of sarcasm.
in there as if you didn't enjoy it.
No, I
know. It's because he built
the stadium. He's saying you're welcome for our joy.
Okay, that was the arrogance in it.
Okay, I didn't, I couldn't tell. You were right to read the
arrogance. You just misread what the ericons
was. Thank you for.
You need the inner voice there, Mike.
I thought, I thought
that David would have some commentary
on Mark DeRosa. The Italians
bailed out the United States.
I wanted
to get with you guys on what you
regard, we did a little bit of this yesterday, as the worst mistake you've ever seen someone in the
position of Mark DeRosa make, because I believe that if Mexico had beaten Italy to knock the United
States out of that, that this would have been an all-time mistake that people would have remembered
and associated with Mark DeRosa's name for the rest of time, even above his major league baseball career,
but because Italy beat Mexico, it's going to be a footnote and an afterthought, and it's not going to go down.
As an all-time mental error from a manager thinking the United States had already advanced before they had actually advanced.
I mean, these are the rules of the tournament.
Maybe Dave has some good examples.
Previously, I would say Nathaniel Hackett managing the clock to the point to settle for a 64-yard field goal.
He basically, like, he got fired before he finishes.
Iber Fluse at the end of that thing.
Thanksgiving game?
Yeah.
There was another Thanksgiving game.
Steelers, Lions in the old Silver Dome, overtime coin flip.
Controversy as to what was said.
But yeah, we're going to kick.
This is when the first score would win in overtime and it costs them the game.
Wasn't that Seahawks Green Bay?
No, no.
That's Matt Hasselback saying we want the ball and we're going to win.
That's different.
That is right.
And they didn't win.
Was that Morning Wegg?
Marty Morningweg.
Yeah, think so.
David, your thoughts.
on that as a blunder because I was saying yesterday, that's a fireable offense.
Like if they simply fired him, they wouldn't because you wouldn't do that turmoil in the
middle of a tournament. But if they'd fired him, I would have understood.
Yeah, in a regular season, in an organization that wasn't the WBC, that would be a fireable
offense, not just that, but saying that, you know, the players may have been dragging.
We wanted to get the players off their feet. Just everything he did with the media was wrong,
but you're not going to do a firing, you know,
right before the quarterfinals,
it's just not gonna happen.
Mark DeRosa will not be back to manage the WBC in 2030.
I can promise you that.
And this is not because of that only.
You know, that's what he did, you know, mistakes happen.
You can misspeak, but the way he did it
and then doubled down with how he managed,
even though he managed the game exactly
as he was supposed to manage the game.
He didn't do the lineup.
That's one of the funniest things here.
Oh, he sat Bryce Harper.
He sat Cal Raleigh.
No, that's not really how it worked.
It was a decision that was made for him
about who was gonna play,
because when players are in the classic,
their teams are told,
your guys gonna get a certain number of at-bats,
a certain number of starts,
certain number of innings pitched.
It is all pre-planned.
Kershaw up in the bullpen, yes,
because that's exactly what was told
when Kershaw would be pitching in a blowout situation,
and he needs the extra
or five minutes to prepare.
So all the talk of him mismanaging the game is not accurate,
but mismanaging the media around the game was a big, big problem.
All right, David, so you're telling me they can get to the final of the WBC
and the game is going to be managed based on what the players' clubs told them they're
allowed to do?
A hundred.
It's all preordained.
A hundred percent.
And they'll tell you otherwise, but if you speak to the people doing it,
or you speak to someone who's run a team who's given players to the WBC, you know exactly
how many appbats your guys are going to get in exactly which games. Let me tell you, the pitching
for the final game, it is Nolan McLean who's starting. It doesn't matter whether it's against Japan,
whether it's against anybody else. Nolan McLean is starting and he's going four innings,
65 pitches at most. I don't think he'll go that many, but whatever it is, the Mets have been
in agreement with the commissioner's office and Michael Hill about what his usage will be.
What year in music classifies as making a song an oldie?
The 40s.
Well, Jay-Z was made oldies earlier this week, and you're doing big band stuff.
That's not how you play the game.
The 1940s makes it oldies, but they're telling me around here that the 90s and even 2005's Gold Digger is an oldie.
What are you shaking your head to know about?
That there are oldies and there are moldies now,
that Sinatra and all of that are moldies,
that we have a new category of oldies.
So if you do the math,
that's like when we're listening to the 80s,
that songs from the 60s,
will we consider them oldies?
And the answer is yes.
If you're in the 2020s, listening to the 2000s,
that's 20 years ago,
I guess that's an oldie.
God, that makes me ancient,
but I'm going to change my answer,
and 2000s are now considered oldies.
That's the line of demarcation I came up with.
The Marlins World Series, 03.
That's a long time ago already.
Listen, it's 23 years.
There's a whole generation.
My son was born, went to college, and is in the working world,
and he didn't see a Dolphin playoff win or a Marlins playoff win
while he was before high school graduation.
So, yeah, that is a, but he got the heat.
So he certainly got to live better than a lot of people.
But it's not easy to do it the way you guys think.
I'm going to speed David up here to.
get through everything that he might want to have opinions about here because we're running out
of time. So all your thoughts on the BAM out of bio, 83 point situation, go as quickly as you can.
In 16 months, no one will remember anything about what he did other than he scored 83 and to not do
it because Kobe has 81. Give me a break. If you could do it, do it. If he could have gotten 101,
I would have loved it. I'm so happy that he did it. It was ugly for sure, but loved it.
Oscars week is upon us. We're hoping to have a watch party with you and Adnan on Sunday that combines that and selection Sunday.
Your thoughts, quick as you can be, on the Oscars. I know you have a lot of them.
People are going to make it a race issue. If Sinners doesn't win Best Picture or Kooler doesn't win Best Director, and that's not really what it is.
Michael B. Jordan has a really good chance, if not a definite chance, to win Best Actor.
There's going to be some locks, but also some surprises come the show Sunday night.
what's the movie that you're reviewing for us this week?
I needed more time for this one.
I did it, Dan. I watched Melania.
I don't, did you?
I saw...
Five times.
I could not believe when I saw the trailer for it, how stupid it was,
and I can't believe how empty her relationship is with Donald Trump.
Empty.
Even knowing as people mock it, I...
You can't believe it?
No, I can't...
That they showed video proof.
David, I haven't seen the movie,
but you tell me whether it...
reflected or not how totally empty their relationship is, where he's been elected president of
Lanside, she hasn't watched it. Like, she hasn't watched his speech. She has, like, it's
nothing wrong with that. It's unbelievable to think that you would be this distant from your,
from your husband. Well, does Valerie watch every show you do? She would if I was named
president of the United States. She'd be watching, she'd be watching that night.
I don't think so. It's got an 11 on Rotten Tomatoes, but a 90,
11 from the critics.
Audience love it.
98 from the audience.
It is the worst documentary I've ever seen.
It doesn't teach anything, but B, it's embarrassing.
All I kept thinking about is I cannot believe that anyone put their name to this,
only to be that close to power and to be a part of it the way Amazon was.
I was just shocked by it.
There's no way that a film executive watched this and said,
oh, that's a really good edit.
This is a good 104 minutes.
I'm just not buying it because no one could watch that and say it's interesting.
You don't learn one thing.
You don't get any insight into anything.
All the things that have to happen for a documentary.
Not one of them happened in this one, but it's, I was staggered by it.
It was sad. But I had to watch it.
That's my giving.
Maybe that's the point.
I got caught up in the excitement.
I would love a bunch of Zagakis to argue against each other at some point,
because you guys were just...
Yeah, get them to...
stunned by you guys were that stunned by zazloh breaking out of zagki none of us had ever heard before uh david i don't know if you have seen this story but it's a bit magical okay
obviously uh turn that music down thank you uh obviously uh you find uh that at present moment even maga is turning
against trump and what it takes is war and pedophilia to finally make
that happened, the most extreme
of the things. It's not a war,
but also...
Even though it is, and we keep saying it is,
it's not. Critical Strike Mission.
Epic Fury.
It's Epic Fury, but it's not so... He told the story
of how it was named Epic Fury,
and this is like a direct quote. I was
kind of falling asleep that had a bunch of names, and then
I saw Epic Fury.
Yeah, that's about... That's about how we
thought it went, Mr. President.
And so there is
some stuff here that is hugely serious. But something funny that has happened here, and I have seen
the late night shows have fun with this, and I couldn't stop watching the absurdity of what I'm about
to show you. The backstory on this is that Donald Trump has taken to giving dress shoes to some of the
people in his totally incompetent and corrupt cabinet. And he gives them dress shoes, but he guesses their
shoe size. He does not ask
them their shoe size. So
really? Yes. Well watch this because
this was stunning to see this even
though it shouldn't be and so his
lackeys and the incompetence
are afraid to not wear
the shoes that he has given
them so this is what happens
to Marco Rubio. He looks
like you did when you were six and you
put on your dad's shoes. Like
when you tried to go into your dad's
closet and it looks like
these are uncomfortable to
walk in because there's so much space behind the heel. It's remarkably stupid and totally on brand.
So everyone in his cabinet, Donald Trump apparently loves this brand of shoe and it's an affordable
shoe. It's like $145 from floor shine. Yeah. And I think it, I actually think something else is at play
here. I don't think he just guesses their sizes. I think it's very difficult for Donald Trump
to fit his gout foot into a dress shoe. And that shoe is very wide at the same.
the ankle and he's like this shoe is amazing.
And normal ankles look like that in the shoe.
He has in piece together that he loves his shoe so much because it's the only dress shoe
that doesn't cut off circulation to his gout foot.
Zazzy nobody gout foot?
I had gout.
You're surprised by what we're showing you here, David?
I'm just laughing because don't all NBA coaches on the bench wear the same shoes?
I'd have to go back and look at a bench.
I know they dress the same, but I think they may wear the same shoes.
And it's possible that you buy shoes that have a little more space when you wear thicker socks for thin socks.
Out of all the things that we should be criticizing about the administration, and there's so many that I can't list them all.
I wanted a funny, David, I wanted a light funny one. I did want to do war in pedophilia again.
I guess core inflation, although five of year low, uh, core inflation when you take out like the things that everybody uses.
But he's kind of like a Batman villain, not just because he's evil, but because he makes people dress like him.
Like Mara Lago face is basically Joker cosmetics from Batman 1989.
I love the thought of someone's narcissism requiring other people to look like them, because my narcissism is the other way.
I'm happy if people do not look like me or dress like me.
I don't want that sort of comparator.
I don't think you got to worry about that one, pal.
Business on the top party on the bottom.
See you later, David.
Ooh, a pal-off.
We had a pal-off there.
Let me get the sequence blazer.
Try to ignore.
And the shirt that cam wore on modern family.
Try to ignore that when Inner Miami was at the White House, they were saying that Donald Trump smelled bad.
Mike, you know I have one rule to live by, right?
Don't place parlays on multiple long shots.
Don't say a game is one when it hasn't hit triple zero.
Always drink your Yeagermeister ice cold.
That's the rule.
Everything else is merely a suggestion.
Everything else?
Everything else.
Wearing clean underwear every day.
Well, that's just a personal.
decision.
Brushing your teeth.
Obviously smart, but not a rule.
Never pee-pee on an electric fence.
Okay, maybe there are two rules.
But the one that is 100% that I insist on completely,
Yeagermeister must be drank ice cold.
Or don't drink it at all.
Damn, that's cold.
Exactly.
You're finally starting to get it.
Drink responsibly.
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