The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Archie Manning Vs. Lavar Ball

Episode Date: January 10, 2025

Greg Cote used his age as a shield to protect himself against our brand new Venmo Fine Bucket yesterday, and Mike Ryan is not having it. How hard is it to Venmo somebody? Plus, Jess is still fired up ...about her Notre Dame Fighting Irish as we continue to break down last night's epic Orange Bowl including Jeremiyah Love's heroic performance, James Franklin again ending up on the wrong side of a big game, and Jessica's football high. Then, it's time for another edition of Off Rohd-ing, but this time we're going “Off Rose-ing” as Lucy AND Rose take us through their adventure at the Orange Bowl last night between the Penn State Nittany Lions and Notre Dame. What did Rose think Notre Dame's mascot was? Also, Lavar Ball was right the whole time, huh? Should we be saying thank you, thank you? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. $2.99 plus tax. Try one or try a full Tim Selec lineup. Terms apply, prices may vary. I'm participating in restaurants in Canada. It's time for Tim's. ["It's Time for Tim's"] Welcome to the Big Suey, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not gonna apologize for that.
Starting point is 00:00:42 In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face and the habitual liar. The Venmo bucket is presented by Venmo and guys, we got a problem because Venmo presented a very real and good solution to our issue, which was people squirming out of this studio saying, I don't have cash. When you don't have cash, you turn to Venmo. It's great.
Starting point is 00:01:17 However, Greg Cody has cheated the system because he owes a $10 fine from yesterday for his phone going off. And he just claimed that he was too old to figure Venmo out. When Venmo is super simple, we have to nip this in the bud before everyone starts pretending they don't know how to use Venmo because he owes $10 that is a pending balance. I thought it was like $17.
Starting point is 00:01:38 No, we waived it. We waived it. It was a Thursday. He's sick. But his phone definitely went off and we can't let that slide. We decided we're not going to double the fine like we normally would on a Tuesday because it was a Thursday. He owes $10. Dan, it's on you to make sure you bring order to this thing because we brought Venmo to the table, they gave us a solution, and yet the same culture exists. Dan, I also want to point out, I think Greg Cody is lying.
Starting point is 00:02:08 I think he absolutely knows how to use Venmo. You know why? Because Venmo is so easy, even my parents use Venmo. It's the easiest thing in the world. So I think Greg Cody is using his age as a shield. So that we're like, oh, it's bumbling old Greg Cody doesn't know how to use technology. Sorry, this is the easiest app to use, Venmo. Open it up, send the money, boom, done.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Jeremiah, I love what you did there. Just product placement, sponsorship. I love what you did there, and I wanted to talk about Jeremiah Love, and I wanted to talk about that run that I believe to be the greatest five yard run in the history of Notre Dame football. And I wanna talk the the experts in here about the surprising strength of athletes and in the case of
Starting point is 00:02:51 Andrew Hawkins the worst you've ever been embarrassed on film because if we can get the slow-motion Jeremiah Love play I want you guys to see here what happens to, I think his name is Zaki Wheatley for Penn State, where he has the body angle on collision that you have to make this stop at the goal line because of Jeremiah Love and where his body is positioned there. He's got to be stopped because he doesn't have any momentum, but his lower body strength, not unlike Jalen Hertz's, not unlike Saquon Barkley's, his lower body strength is a thing to behold there.
Starting point is 00:03:33 I don't think I mean that most people have any earthly idea how physically strong James Harden and Kawhi Leonard are. For example, two people. You rarely see something like this where a feat of strength not by Derrick Henry is something that you can see, and you can speak to this, Hawk. That there should have been stopped on the goal line by anybody playing defense for Penn State
Starting point is 00:03:56 who hits that collision, unless your lower body strength simply has nothing for what it's meeting. It's a damn good run, Dan. Well, it's bad football. Look. Can I say that? It's bad football. I think it's great football. He comes in with his chest high up in the air
Starting point is 00:04:13 and hits him as high as you can. Physics will tell you the low man wins. Low man wins. You get your body in an angle to be able to combat the drive and force he naturally has because he is driving his legs. So as number six comes in, this is his tackle to make, he comes completely standing straight up where you lose all leverage with your chest. Incredible run. It's bad football as well. It's bad football by number six, but it's not bad
Starting point is 00:04:37 football on the initial contact. It is great football because check out this initial contact. Mind you, Jeremiah Love enters this game with a knee injury. He decided to play that first half without a knee brace. He jumps up in the air. You want to say Lowman wins? Lowman got him right there. That is about 270 pounds of force that is landing entirely on that injured leg.
Starting point is 00:04:56 And he somehow maintains his balance and then recovers enough to be like, now I'm going to be the Lowman and I'm going to win. Unreal Football. What about 29? 29 tried his best. Yeah, and then two more players come in and try to tackle him low.
Starting point is 00:05:10 It's incredible. If I rank the football, let me rank the football. Ball carrier, incredible football. Number one, it's great. And second best football on the play, the first tackler coming in. You get low, you go at the thigh board, he makes an incredible hurdling play.
Starting point is 00:05:27 The next three Penn State players, bad football. Six comes with his chest, loses all of his leverage. 11 comes and tries to strip the ball instead of making the short tackle, bad football. And number 29 just throws his body in there without wrapping up. All of you, if this is Little League football, get your asses on the bench.
Starting point is 00:05:47 We don't put that on film. I'll also say one thing about Jeremiah Love is that after the first contact, not number six, right there, he, the ability to make the hurdle, even though that was a small hurdle, make that hurdle and maintain his balance is something he's done this entire season. He's done it in almost every game.
Starting point is 00:06:08 He's able to get in the air, come down on an injured knee, and one healthy knee and one injured knee, maintain his balance and still have the force to keep moving forward. That is a player who's done that this entire football season. He's scored a touchdown in every single game except for the Sugar Bowl, where he was definitely feeling that injury and he's an incredible
Starting point is 00:06:27 player he'll be back next season he's only a sophomore he's just so talented and one of the many reasons why Notre Dame is in the position they are to play for a national championship Jeremiah Love should get so much credit for that touchdown run it was just so gutsy and like that's just how the team played this entire game this Notre Dame team I think Marcus Freeman deserves all the credit today because like you said Mike it was 10-3 going into the half it felt like it could have been 30 to 0 the way that Penn State was playing and Notre Dame didn't tuck
Starting point is 00:06:57 their tail between their legs and say ah man like we're hurt we're gassed we had to play seven days ago like we're just, we're gonna give in, like we're gonna give up. Like, we just don't have the juice tonight. They fought through a really substantially, like just bad, bad football game and were able to stay in it and match Penn State touchdown to touchdown until the end of the game.
Starting point is 00:07:21 Like, that's coaching. Like, there was a lot of coordinator battling going on last night between Al Golden and Kotelnicki, the Penn State play caller who's had a really good season I think with Penn State's offense. I think Tyler Warren is as advertised. He's a spectacular player and completely opens up that offense, but I mean Notre Dame didn't give up
Starting point is 00:07:40 and it sounds corny and cliche to say it. But it's true. It's 100% true. I watched it as analysis. I hate it as analysis. It's 100% true. I watched Brian Kelly lose some of these games before. And I think when it comes to Brian Kelly, I think the James Franklin, Brian Kelly conversation is a similar one where they're both great football coaches.
Starting point is 00:07:58 I don't think anyone can say with a straight face that they're not. And James Franklin's put a tremendous amount of top talent in the NFL. He's won so many games. You can't just write off winning 10, 11 win seasons. Like you can't write that off. He's a great, great football coach.
Starting point is 00:08:16 It sucks that they are once again on the wrong side of a close game against a top five team. Sometimes it's bad luck. I don't think a lot of people would say that's a great, great football coach. That record people would say that's a great, great football coach. That record does not ever belong to a great, great football coach. No, he obviously is.
Starting point is 00:08:29 He did it at Vanderbilt. He's a great football coach. You can't say he's not a great football coach. I'm sorry, like, you can say he's not a championship caliber football coach. I'm saying that we've never described someone who's 0-13 against top five teams. I don't like defending him.
Starting point is 00:08:44 I'm just saying he is a great football coach. Marcus Freeman might be better. Two greats? Jess, you gave him two greats. Jess, you gave him two greats and you're in the rah rah spirit of my team never gives up and it just makes you a little crazy. Jess is on such a football high.
Starting point is 00:08:59 I got a contact high by listening to her just. Thank you. Like she is such, she is so on a football high right now. that's it's earned I'm happy I can't remember the last time I was on such a football probably the Toledo Bowl game a week ago I was on a football high come on come on our doozy learn the overtime rules buddy no I mean look I I know it sounds corny. I don't give a shit. Like, I've watched this football team my entire life, Dan. This is the best coached Notre Dame football team
Starting point is 00:09:30 I've seen in my life. Marcus Freeman deserves all the credit for everything he's done for this team. I think the coordinators, Denbrock and Golden, deserve credit. Beage, the special teams coordinator, deserves a ton of credit. Marcus, no, it is.
Starting point is 00:09:43 That's literally what it is. The special teams coordinator got them to jump off sides from the Georgia sugar bowl game. She just loves that sound. It would only be a look at me, Louie, if she said, my good friend Marcus Freeman is the best go-tart seed in my life. My team is so great. Dan, what do you make of the Al Golden thing? Because, you know, that...
Starting point is 00:10:05 Minor penalty, two minutes rambling Throw it to the Lucy video. I want to hear from Lucy Lucy was also at the game. Let's hear from Lucy if Notre Dame loses I'm gonna be on suicide watch tomorrow, but if they win tonight I'm gonna fall in love with a stripper in Miami, and it's gonna be awesome Hey, welcome to off-roast and'm Rose, if you didn't know. At the Tazon de la Naranja, the Orange Bowl, where Penn State and the Irish are playing. Gets pepper sprayed one time. Thinks she's the sinner of the universe.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Parasere mi tu pa' yotro. Did you grow that beard yourself? Is that natural? No. No? Good. Well, you would have had some serious hormone problems. Okay, do you guys think it's kind of messed up that Notre Dame's not in the conference? They lost to Northern Illinois.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Who the f*** is Northern Illinois? After we lost to Northern Illinois, we won 11 games in a row. And 10 of those 11 were convincingly wins. Yeah, there's just that one that stands out. Do you think you should be allowed to compete for the national championship game if you've lost to Northern Illinois? Well, they didn't lose to the Northern. Notre Dame lost to the Northern.
Starting point is 00:11:32 That's right. I know. I was asking, do you think they should be allowed to compete since they lost to Northern Illinois? They did not. Notre Dame lost to the Northern. That's why I'm asking. You're not listening.
Starting point is 00:11:42 That's why playoffs are at the end of the season and not at the beginning. Do they get to be like, asking, you're not listening. That's why playoffs are at the end of the season and not at the beginning. Do they get to be like, hey, we're national champions if Notre Dame wins the national championship? They can say we're cousins with a national champion. Whoever wins today should play for the national championship, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:11:55 Well, they will. Yeah. The way the bracket is. You confused me with the question, sorry. It's okay, I'm bad at this. Ah! What's the name of your quarterback? Riley Leonard. Oh, is he good? He runs it, he's great. He's just, he's okay, I'm bad at this. Ah! What's the name of your quarterback? Riley Leonard.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Oh, is he good? He runs it, he's great. He's just, he's the best person ever. Come on. Oh, he runs? Half of your group is mute. You guys are just standing there, I love it. This is good.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Do you rather play if you win, Ohio State or Texas? Either or, just get there. Okay, that's not the, once again, that you guys are asking, you're answering questions, I'm not asking. Okay, raise your hand for Texas. and raise your hand for Ohio State hell yeah he speaks I'm from Northeast Philadelphia I am white trash as it gets and I hear to see Oregon or Georgia nor today wait how hot is Marcus Freeman oh Notre Dame. Wait, Notre Dame is not green? No. Where's Notre Dame?
Starting point is 00:12:46 How hot is Marcus Freeman? Oh, extremely. I'm a man, but I'm a man's man. He's a good looking dude. Marcus Freeman is a great coach. But like how hot is he? Like a hottie. He's a good looking dude.
Starting point is 00:13:02 I don't know about that. He's a terrific, I'm going to talk about football. He's a terrific football coach. I think he's like at least a seven seven and a half. Okay what about James Franklin is he a hottie or no? I think he's a great coach but I... I mean he's not ugly. Have you ever heard the term like he aged like fine wine? He's aging more like boxed wine. ND! We are! Hen State! Thank you. You're welcome. aging more like boxed wine. ND! We are! Hen State!
Starting point is 00:13:26 Thank you. You're welcome. We say we are ND at our stadium. Don't you feel like they kind of own we are? And you guys own dressing up like leprechauns? That's sort of the thing you all own. We own them, so. Oh, you see, you already got it.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Yeah, we're getting the heck out of here. It was a great game. It was a lot of fun, but I knew that we needed to wrap things up when early in the fourth quarter, Rose looked at me and said, I'm cheering for the Flying Irish. I said, what?
Starting point is 00:13:53 She said, yeah, the Flying Irish. And I said, Rose, the Fighting Irish? She goes, oh, well, they go like this. So I thought they were the Flying Irish. And she had been cheering for the Flying Irish the whole day. She had already driven over the median. It's been a day, so we need to go.
Starting point is 00:14:15 See you in Atlanta. And congrats, Jess. This episode of Dan Lobatard's show is Stugatis, presented by DraftKings. DraftKings, the crown is yours. I would like to ask the group if I will find everywhere in every city I go to in America, do you guys believe that I will find the home,
Starting point is 00:14:35 an actual home like that anybody would live in, where you go for your insurance or your urgent care or your podiatrist or your dentist or it's it looks it otherwise the this is these are all over Miami and I particularly around Bird Road all over all over Miami you will find all of these places that provide goods in what are otherwise looking like normal residences that are just homes and I'm wondering how common that is will I find that in every city in the United States? Will I find it in smaller cities in the United States?
Starting point is 00:15:09 I have been to both a podiatrist and an urgent care that is just a home, so I'm not judging it. I'm just asking you how uncommon it is to have, to get medical care in just like a normal home. Let me speak for people who live in the greater Phoenix metropolitan area. Let me speak for people who live in the greater Phoenix metropolitan area. Let me get this straight. You go walk it, you say, I gotta go to urgent care.
Starting point is 00:15:30 Like, oh, like me, I busted my lip and my teeth and stuff. I gotta go to urgent care. And you walk up to somebody's house? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. There are former residential buildings that, I mean, as long as I've been alive.
Starting point is 00:15:43 It's all over Miami. Yeah, but particularly like if you drive down Bird been alive it's all on that yeah but particularly like if you drive down Bird Road that stretch on that road you'll see what looks like a your standard single-family home and it's a dentist office it's a podiatrist it's sometimes they're plastic surgery offices that look like your your standard home it's a very weird thing as someone who's moved down here I do not trust it not only only that, on the front of it, it doesn't say like, Dan Lebertard's premier dentistry. It just says dentist.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Yeah. It just says podiatrist. Like it's the old west, you know, when you go to the doctor and then you just walk into this room right here and there's a doctor right there and you hit your head with a knee. It makes me question things. I'm not from this culture, though.
Starting point is 00:16:23 So I don't know. You guys have to give me that information. Where I'm from, that is not the case. It makes me question things. I'm not from this culture though. So I don't know. You guys have to give me that information. Where I'm from, that is not the case. I'm asking the question because I'm ignorant and everyone's always accusing me of, Dan thinks this thing that's in Miami is only Miami. Isn't he an idiot? I was just, I'm genuine.
Starting point is 00:16:38 Because I'm so scarred by the audience reacting that way, I'm telling you, Mike says Bird Road, these are all over Miami Beach, all over Miami. This is- South Broward. South Broward, yeah. I don't think this is unique to Miami. I really just think this is like a,
Starting point is 00:16:51 it's a zoning thing, like more residential looking buildings are zoned for commercial use and then like a doctor moves into it. I don't think that's weird. Would you use, would you be like Hawk though and show up in your Maybach, pull up and get your- The Lambo now, I traded it out when we took the break. To get your feet checked out or your dentist
Starting point is 00:17:09 or get your teeth looked at. You guys, this would create a skepticism in anybody, correct, no matter what your earning power is or isn't. I imagine most people, when they wanna go to a doctor, they want something that looks like a doctor's office. Wanna go to an office park, right? And there's like suites and, oh, there's a plastic surgery place right there.
Starting point is 00:17:28 And there's my dentist. And there's like a chiropractor up there. And I go in there and it's an office. It's clearly no one has ever lived in here. No one ever watched Family Feud in this room, like on a couch. I don't want that. I don't want anything where I feel like Parcheese broke out one night when the whole family got together.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Uh huh, I got it. I don't think he's gonna keep doing it. I know. Well, I mean, let me, you grew up in New York. Yes. This maybe is also an exception because it's an older city, but there's a lot of offices and doctor's offices
Starting point is 00:18:01 and stuff in New York that were clearly in old buildings that people lived in, like in apartment buildings. But they're all buildings, that's the difference. Like it's a building. So it has to be multi-story, is that? Yes. Yeah, that's a weird distinction, but yes. Yeah, that's weird.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Lots of units, gotta have lots of units. Everything I'm talking about, these are absolutely one-story units that I don't trust. That I have, no matter how good your care is in there, I trust it less, so I shouldn't say I'm not judging, I do have less trust than if you simply gave me something that looked more like a traditional doctor's office.
Starting point is 00:18:32 When you described it, as soon as you were describing it, I didn't imagine a one story, I imagined a multi story like the Brady's, and there's a staircase when you walk in, and that's what the exam room's up there, and over there where the kitchen is where? Alice or whatever She's like doing the check-in and stuff the triage is in the backyard where they threw the foot I'm not a bad and it broke Jan Brady's nose. You're gonna just keep doing the Brady bunch. Yeah
Starting point is 00:18:55 Yeah, so no Plaza no one-story Plaza. No mini mall for you. Then no mini malls. Yes. Many malls. Yes, cuz it is again Nobody throw football hit Jan Brady's nose at a minimall, right? At a strip ball. That's fine. Nobody had Thanksgiving dinner. You're going to keep doing this. Nobody's dad walked to the bathroom with a towel around their waist. You're just going to keep doing things that happen in a home?
Starting point is 00:19:19 Exactly. You're going to play Family Feud? Let's do that. Let's play top five things that you find in a home. This is a message from sponsor Intuit TurboTax. Taxes was dealing with piles of paperwork and frustrating forms, and then waiting and wondering and worrying if you were going to get any money back.
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Starting point is 00:20:18 Live from Middle Rock Media Studios here in Miami. Stugatz. The Germans are advancing on France in World War II. This is the Don Lebatard Show with. Stugatz. The Germans are advancing on France in World War II. This is the Don LeBattar Show with the Stugatz. I want to talk to Hawk here and get some football knowledge before it is that we leave for the day. But before I do that, something else that I want to talk about.
Starting point is 00:20:43 We're going to have to proclaim the Ball family a success, right, in terms of succeeding, the things that the Balls do, because to see Angelo. Jeremy doesn't buy it. With a hit song, a legitimate hit song. I do buy it. Mike pointed out in this back room, quote,
Starting point is 00:21:05 and remember, Donald Trump saved that dude's life, and that's what made me roll my eyes. We kept wondering, what are we actually, what's our return on this trade? What are we trading? We know we're getting back the worst ball, brother, and then he gave everybody a number one hit. Number one hit.
Starting point is 00:21:22 It's great. It is top tier. This is not fake. And I thought it was. When I saw the conversation around it, I'm like, oh, everyone's just talking in jest. And it's like, oh, OK, we're making, we're all laughing at and not with.
Starting point is 00:21:37 And then I heard the song. And it grew on me. It grew on me big time. L'Angelo Ball. It does. The first time I heard it was, I saw a tweet that says LeAngelo Ball makes music that would fit in perfectly on Madden 2004.
Starting point is 00:21:51 Absolutely. And they were like, ha ha ha, and we played the clip and they had like highlights from Madden and the bad graphics and stuff. And then like more and more, you know, like there's these kids who are at a Hornets game, I think, or Bulls game, they walk around the bench and say, Lonzo, Lonzo, and then they play the song and Lonzo balls like yeah
Starting point is 00:22:06 Yeah, and then more and more and I'm like it really does sound a lot like Manny Fresh from like a Manny Fresh I got an alley and cash money not just the production but his voice Yeah, his flow that's Manny Fresh and now it's like I can't stop singing it and dance So Rolling Loud which is big music festival Mike, you know all about it. They've got they do one here They do one in LA or they do one in Europe the rolling out in LA They announced their lineup and I'm like, oh cool my cousins in there. Oh, that's awesome better and then I look at I'm like Jello is that D Jello? He's in there and he's not like one of the fine print people He's high up on the list and I as my cousin houses possibly said he's got the hottest song in the country and then one of our other friends who works in music industry said
Starting point is 00:22:50 there's a bidding war going on right now for him to sign him to a deal and they're literally saying like hold on hold on because they didn't imagine any of this would happen they didn't imagine this kind of reaction is levard ball the best father ever he's three-four-three the best father ever. He's three for three How can you fake it? He's three for three He really is and the one that you could hold against him and we're wondering really should we enter this geopolitical situation? Number one hit no, I do have an issue with him just strolling up and being a large font act He's got one song
Starting point is 00:23:21 And he's going to play it like 17 times and it's gonna be made people will eat it up But that's what music is right now you get to number one you're a headliner essentially what it really starts on social media you they they're targeting being a tick-tock sound yep because once you become a tick-tock sound that's when your whole life changes I talked about this with the was it Vanessa Carlton a lot of lives gonna be changing come January 19th yeah we're not gonna be tick-to 19th. I was gonna say, yeah, there's not gonna be TikToks out for very long. You're still giving white chicks credit
Starting point is 00:23:47 for Vanessa Carlton, huh? It was TikTok before TikTok. She was on TRL. It already was a huge song. She used it because it was a huge song. We worth time, we done this. She's like the fourth wall in the house. We did the deep dive.
Starting point is 00:23:57 I told you guys, it was, her agent said, have you picked up your phone? Like, what are you talking about? None of this is true. Turn on the TV right now, it's like, what happened? It's like what happened? It's like this movie came out and it's changed everything. And now she's a millionaire.
Starting point is 00:24:09 Thank you Wayans Brothers. This is the fourth time we've done this on a family. He's just making that how it happened and it's not how it happened. By the way, not the first hit song in the Ball family history. Yes it is. Because before that we had LaVar Ball
Starting point is 00:24:22 speaking about that geopolitical situation, telling, was it Chris Cuomo? That he sang the thank you song. Let's go, play the song, play the thank you song. He know he got them shoes and I'll tell you what, behind closed doors, I think he got them on his feet, just dancing. Are they?
Starting point is 00:24:37 You know what song he's singing? What song? Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. That is not a real song. That's what song he's singing. That is not a song. He just made one. You made that up. That is not a real song. That's what song he's singing. That is not a song. He just made one. You made that up and it is not a real song.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Hey, he got a new song, it's just for him. I wanna center this conversation. I don't like that we're making jokes about a number one hit song with LeVar Balls, clearly fake song, I'm with Cuomo on that. What? We are taking away, we are taking away the attention,
Starting point is 00:25:08 the notoriety that one of the best rappers in the culture, of any culture, has embraced with us. The best thing that can happen is if Jello now samples this off the top of his next hit and then makes this a real song. Featuring LaVar Ball, what father would you rather be arch Archie Manning or lavar ball? Because listen you have Peyton and Eli super successful, but then you have Cooper, but then Cooper Gives you arch give you arch you got Lonzo and Mello clearly superstars Mello
Starting point is 00:25:40 He was right about him since he was eight which is crazy And then you're like but you have jello and he's kind of, everyone's kind of bringing them along. And now he might be the biggest rapper that LA has seen since Kendrick Lamar. I just want to point out that you are really dismissing the thank you song. Yeah. Cause look, you're, you're, you're saying, Oh, Jello made this awesome song. Guess where he got the talent from his mother. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. Mama wasn't doing it.
Starting point is 00:26:08 That is not a real song. That's what song he's singing. There is zero talent in that. What? Even that little bit of. It is catchy as. It's from the top of the dome. How can you not call that catchy?
Starting point is 00:26:17 You gonna be walking out of here, someone's gonna open the door for you, you're like, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. You're gonna be singing. Thank you, thank you, thank thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you it is definitely sampleable and i will say that i was a man
Starting point is 00:26:32 thank you thank you thank you thank you and i want to say something because there was a time in this country when the barbara was on tv everywhere life felt fun it did and then my wife was that something that was not quite appropriate TV everywhere and life felt fun. It did. And then like LaVar said some things that were not quite appropriate and definitely your drunk uncle at a cookout.
Starting point is 00:26:51 I don't think they were that crazy. Some of the stuff was. Some of them were. Some of it was out of pocket. Some of it was out of pocket. Some of it was out of pocket. It was out of pocket, out of pocket, but again, not a crime, not a crime.
Starting point is 00:27:02 And then there was this massive backlash. You can't platform LaVar Ball. And I said, guys, nobody's, you're not platforming him. We're not taking him seriously. And that's when everything got super serious. And then the pandemic happened. And I say this, I submit to you, if we kept LaVar Ball on TV,
Starting point is 00:27:20 we would have never had a pandemic. Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. That's what we would have been singing to him. Put it on the poll please at LeBataard Show. If we had kept LeVar Ball on television, would we have avoided the pandemic? I want to discuss for a second what we can and can't platform because I'd like to get to what Dave Portnoy had to say about me
Starting point is 00:27:42 as he tries to launder John Gruden over there and then calls me the jackass. But the first thing that I want to do is point out that Mike Ryan right now, and Mike Ryan occasionally does this in adulthood, I don't know whether he's got an important meeting or a family event or something, but there is something that Mike Ryan does that when he goes formal with the casual wear, he can be accused of having a bit of a Mr. Rogers vibe with the sweater, and when from that sweater emerges some form of jello is not a large font act,
Starting point is 00:28:16 I get disoriented by your festival knowledge because of how it is that you're dressed. So can you explain to me either what you have going on later or when it is that this attire gets broken out? Can this not just the regular winter wear where we're all going in and getting some of the stuff in the back of our closet? No, you got the slacks working and a whole-
Starting point is 00:28:35 I've lost some weight. You got a whole thing going on. There was like 80% of my closet that I couldn't use and then I've lost some weight and now I think I look good. I do have a meeting after the show, very important people that I'm meeting with to do good for the community and I Wanted to you know dress the part. He's got a name. He's got a name He said very important people in any got a name the person if he just is very important people because it might not be anybody I've been name-dropping this entire show
Starting point is 00:29:02 I've been lying on this show with name drops. I tried to earn just a look at me, Louis. She wasn't as proud of it as I am. I thought this was a badge of honor. It's just not something that you can come in here as a bit of a newbie and start pointing around and demanding the firing off of sounds at your best. It's gotta be earned.
Starting point is 00:29:23 That stuff's gotta be earned. And it's not just earned by having the money to drive in in a Maybach. Is this your way of telling me I look handsome? I think that was a backhanded compliment. I don't know. Jessica, help me with, is it formal casual wear? Like what is this look that Mike Ryan is,
Starting point is 00:29:38 I'm not even mocking it. I'm just saying it's an unusual for Mike Ryan look. And it makes me usually think that he's got some sort of meeting after the show whenever he He breaks out one of these casual formal sweaters I would describe it as guy in a button-down with a sweater on I would describe it as Jim Trussell on a cold day Thank you, thank you Thank you. Okay, if you say so, say so, it doesn't seem normal for him.
Starting point is 00:30:06 It's not something he wears every day. Well, usually I have much larger boobs. I mean, it's a great looking outfit. You look great, you've been working out. You look great too. Your work is showing off. It's not an outfit that you would expect someone to have an opinion on whether,
Starting point is 00:30:19 who has the big font for Rolling Loud. Thank you. I think that's, thank you, thank you. Don't try to put me in a box. Don't try to put me in a box. Super catchy. It is catchy. Why are the knives?
Starting point is 00:30:30 Thank you, thank you, thank you. Why have we not played Jello's actual song? No, because this is- We can't, we're trying to monetize this episode on YouTube. There are rights issues. Okay. In fact, I'm sorry. Scared of the big baller brand lawyers.
Starting point is 00:30:43 I'm sorry I have to do this to you. Uh oh. We've got a major penalty. Five minutes derailing. Can't mess with the money. Derailing, I thought we were on topic. But you can't mess with the money. You gotta be careful.
Starting point is 00:30:58 We need a new penalty when you're messing with the money. A messing with the money penalty. And also, he's having some trouble. Like this is a very, this is not a clumsy human being, but he is having trouble with his pen, with his equipment, with a little bit of everything. Maximum touching of things right now. I'm gonna go call Tyrone.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Thomas, a Hall of Famer, Stephen A. Smith, and Mad Dog Russo. Those are just a couple of friends that I like to hang out with when I'm in penalty boxes. Look at me, Louie. That's just charity. You should be embarrassed by that. That was a pity, Look at me, Louie,
Starting point is 00:31:35 because you were needy in here and you were desperate and you were praying for Look at me, Louie and I wanna make you feel like you're included. Is, are you saying, Mike Ryan, that LeAngelo Ball is better than the new Bad Bunny? Is that like you're included. Are you saying, Mike Ryan, that LeAngelo Ball is better than the new Bad Bunny? Is that what you're alleging? No, no, not at all.
Starting point is 00:31:49 That's a five-star banger. Bad Bunny came out and he decided, you know what? Let me just put on an album that has like a couple classic merengue songs in there. A lot of it sounds like music from my childhood, and it's a return to, from two albums ago, really ambitious producing where there's so many juxtapositions within one song.
Starting point is 00:32:06 I think Bad Bunny's an artist for all time, quite honestly. That's an album, you don't even need to understand the language to understand the ambition in the production. I think the world of Bad Bunny, I think he's a transcendent artist. We've only scratched the surface of what he's capable of, both within music and outside of music. And I listened to that album from the very first rotation like this might be a
Starting point is 00:32:27 second best album ever and that's rare on first rotation that you know you're listening to something special earworm after earworm this guy is so special what are the things in his outside of his music catalog outside of wrestling that makes you say that he is special at everything? I think he can also look if you can do what he did from the jump in in the entertainment realm in inside of professional wrestling where he's English at the time his English has gotten a lot better was not his first language and you're essentially forcing this on a viewing audience that isn't that familiar with him and for him to get over on his merit on his charm charm, and his in-ring ability, I think that that can apply
Starting point is 00:33:08 to all sorts of entertainment sectors. I think he can probably, if he really focuses his energy, become a major movie star. I think he's that charismatic. I think he's that likable, too. Look, when you get to that size of superstar, and I'm Beyonce, Taylor Swift, granted, usually more reserved for women,
Starting point is 00:33:24 but also men, singular artists, don't really reach those levels Drake does and everyone's got someone something to say about Drake Bad Bunny consensus what what is there to hold against him like his Q rating is outstanding no one has an issue with this guy. It's rare. Put it on the poll, is Bad Bunny an artist for all time? Yo, wasn't Bad Bunny the one that right in the early of 2020 went to a heat game and he drank some water? At the pandemic. Yeah, and then- He did the Triple H and he eats bad water everywhere
Starting point is 00:33:58 and we're like, should we be doing this? Everybody lost their mind. Where, what time? And that was, and remember, for a full year, Bad Bunny was wearing a mask before the pandemic. And as the pandemic's about to, we're like, now's when you take off the mask? Amin is saying what a time.
Starting point is 00:34:13 This happened just after we sent LeVar Ball off of television and then the pandemic swept over the land, which never would have happened if we hadn't done that. I feel like- Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. I feel like I've lost Jessica. She has been, I just feel like she's just snorting Notre Dame football highlights.
Starting point is 00:34:32 I don't think you wanna talk about the game anymore. She's watching the All 22 right now. So I'm just, yeah, I moved on to the All 22. I looked at the iPad. There is a huge photo of Marcus Freeman on it. It's Coach's birthday, actually. No way! Coach's birthday, Marcus Freeman, huge photo of Marcus Freeman on it. It's coach's birthday actually. No way! Coach's birthday, Marcus Freeman,
Starting point is 00:34:47 the stroke of midnight last night as he was throwing oranges on the field, he turned 39. Jessica, you earned this, okay? So for those- I agree, but you told me to stop, so I'll stop, I'm sorry. But I'm coming back to you right now. I was talking about the college football game that was 15 miles away last night.
Starting point is 00:35:01 I'm coming back to you right now. Those are the college footballs in my final that my alma mater played. I'm taking the entire story to its natural conclusion, which will soon end in defeat, and we will all laugh at you. That's fine. That's correct.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Hey, better than losing the Pop Dark Bowl. That's right. I'm psyched. Whoa, why did I catch a strip? Hey, man. By the way, we're gonna kick your ass week one. Kick your ass, I feel so great about it. Sure, I don't care, I'm happy.
Starting point is 00:35:26 You should be happy. Especially after you see our quarterback. This is the time to be happy. Hope his elbow's okay. You earned that victory because, for those of you who do not know, it's not just that you have taken, you know, that you haven't felt well recently
Starting point is 00:35:42 and then that game for four quarters was also an agitation to your system you went to new orleans uh... you wanted to follow the noter dame football team around obviously awful happens in new orleans the game gets postponed by day you don't even stay for the game so yesterday ranks where in terms of your all-time sporting moments at an event where you're in the middle of something and you get the joyous feeling at the end.
Starting point is 00:36:10 It's definitely a top five in person, maybe top three in person game. But yeah, I unfortunately, I wasn't able to stay for the Sugar Bowl. I wish I could have, but it was too, we just couldn't change our flights, it was a whole mess. But the Indiana game in the first round, which again, going back to something we talked about
Starting point is 00:36:27 on Monday, it's a bummer that the narrative around that game was like, oh man, Indiana sucks, they're so stupid and bad. That game was awesome too, that was a great game. So I'd say maybe those are one and two, and there's a number of Notre Dame games I've been to in the regular season that come close, but yeah, last night was awesome.
Starting point is 00:36:42 You're on the cusp of the greatest season of your life, correct? Yeah, well yeah, I mean, I think it already is. I think winning the Sugar Bowl, beating the SEC champion in the Sugar Bowl was the best postseason. I'm not saying Notre Dame though, Jess. I'm saying everything.
Starting point is 00:36:57 No, the Steelers have won two Super Bowls in my lifetime. Those were pretty great. Those will feel better? Yeah, and the Cubs winning the World Series was like One of the best nights of my life I feel very lucky as a sports fan, even though the Chicago sports in general are a dumpster fire. Thank God my mom's from Pittsburgh Yeah, like in terms of Notre Dame seasons, which is why I want to give credit to Marcus Freeman Honestly, I don't think you can say enough about what he's done for this team And I've watched that I've watched Notre Dame teams like this
Starting point is 00:37:26 that have had great players and been great not be able to pull it out in those spots. And that's why I was trying to make the comparison between James Franklin and Brian Kelly. I think they have a lot of similarities. I think they both should get credit for being great coaches, but until they win that big game, that is always gonna be the knock against them.
Starting point is 00:37:44 And I think where the difference is for Marcus Freeman is that I don't think Notre Dame was in the, playing the best game of their season last night. They certainly didn't look like the same team that I watched last week and the week before in the playoffs, but he coaches this team to the next level, and every single player is bought into him and to the program.
Starting point is 00:38:04 And I think he should be the topic of conversation day. It shouldn't just be about James Franklin blowing another game against a top-five team. It should be about the fact that Marcus Freeman has already accomplished more in three seasons at Notre Dame than Brian Kelly or any of the coaches in the last three decades were able to do in multiple seasons. So I have to just say happy birthday to Marcus Freeman man. I hope he enjoys it. Jessica, when you talk about the Sugar Bowl, you couldn't go to the game
Starting point is 00:38:30 because you couldn't switch your flights. But you had tickets to the game? Yeah. Okay, would you have stayed if you didn't have tickets to the game, but you could switch your flights? Well, no, that would have been weird. See, okay, so the Giants Super Bowl, the one that they beat Brady with the with the catch on it on the helmet
Starting point is 00:38:48 All that right. I was in Phoenix. So we were outside the stadium watching it there I'm gonna tell you that's the greatest vibe ever because you didn't pay a dollar and you're getting all the energy and all the shit talk Okay, I'm just saying that you should do that. I don't know. You should have went to the theater. I wanna take everybody through what just happened. Like, Amin thought that was the way to punctuate the segment. Spent the time before this asking me, do we have enough time for me to get this off? No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:39:14 He's taking notes. This is what I was saying. He texted to me to workshop some things. No, no, hold on. This is what I was asking. I asked a question behind the scenes. I asked a question, how much time do we have? Because I'm looking question behind the scenes.
Starting point is 00:39:25 I asked a question, how much time do we have? Because I'm looking at the clock run down. And I wanted this to be a conversation about, are you guys cool with experiencing something even if you don't have tickets to it? And I thought it would be a cool conversation. Oh yeah, I remember one time I went to this game. Instead you guys made it like,
Starting point is 00:39:41 oh, that was a means punctuation. We didn't have time to. I don't like when you do that Dan Leventhal. I do enough things here that you can mock me about. You asked Jessica a question, she gave you nothing as a response, the segment was over, we had nothing to punctuate the segment.
Starting point is 00:39:53 How are you yelling at me about that? Because I didn't want to punctuate the segment. You asked to end the show the way that you ended the show. I didn't ask to end the show, that was the whole point of me asking. As a former NFL player, I usually am playing in those games. Nah!
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Starting point is 00:42:53 thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. I think we should do something musically with the tone of Cuo saying that is not a song as well because that has a Musical tone to it. I'd like such a disapproving dad I'm a little bit that he turned around in 30 seconds. And Mike's dressed like a disapproving dad Jeremy I'm gonna tell you like my man Randy Jackson tells people on American Idol Not for me dog, that's a no all right no I understand I mean 30 seconds look the beat is nice uh-huh and obviously thank you thank you as a hit but they just don't okay yeah you go in the next six minutes and try to find the
Starting point is 00:43:35 right free use we can all handle a little criticism around here of our artistic endeavors I've been enduring them for 20 years, deservedly around here. Oh my goodness, criticism. Understood, me too. Welcome to our world. Bosses build each other up. Yeah, okay, that's what you and Jimmy Butler say. When Jimmy Butler runs successful things, you come to me about how he's...
Starting point is 00:43:55 I learned that through his statement. How much you guys have done? I didn't know bosses did that. You know what you guys over there in that other studio have done? You have guaranteed, virtually, the next time we play a song, that Jeremy doesn't run out and try to be ultra creative for this show because all he's met is with your disapproval and your feedback that it's not good
Starting point is 00:44:12 enough. Thank you Mike. That was not my disapproval that time on him not being good enough. That was the appraisal of a mean and hawk. All I was saying is I would also like another one. I was saying I want one that also is a sequel to that one. I was asking for more Jeremy, not less. What do you think about it? Do you approve or disapprove? It's fine. I'll take fine.
Starting point is 00:44:34 I'll take it. No, I'll take that. Especially from him, I guess that's great. Yeah, that's a major compliment from him. It's like a B minus. Also, Mike. Jeremy, please don't settle for that. Iron sharpens iron.
Starting point is 00:44:43 That's the environment we build here. I sound like Michael Irvin You're gonna let him come in your house and tell you your beat that you made in six minutes Is it good enough? We can't stand for it stand up for yourself Jeremy. We're losing recipes. We're losing recipes We're losing recipes! We're losing recipes! That is an excellent Michael Irvin. I have a very long history with Uncle Mike, which is what me and my family call him. Tell me more. Fourth and Long.
Starting point is 00:45:13 I wouldn't be here without Michael Irvin. You guys, anybody here know the show Fourth and Long? Raise of hands. Zero. Roy kinda halfway. I mean, I heard the name. Yeah, I heard it. It's a Reality show.
Starting point is 00:45:25 A reality show in 2009 on Spike TV. Huh. Where they took six defensive backs and six wide receivers whose football careers ended on terms not their own. Off the couch for a chance to play for the Dallas Cowboys. Hosted by none other than the playmaker, Michael Irvin. Well, there was a young kid living on a couch in Toledo, Dan,
Starting point is 00:45:49 with not even a bedroom to my name. Undersized, but giant heart. Undersized. Not even the room? But it was heart over height. And he sent in 30 audition tapes, overnight at 10, two-day mail 10, and regular mail 10, to make sure they got it.
Starting point is 00:46:06 They kept getting tapes. He stalked down Jerry Jones at the 2009 NFL Combine to try to get an opportunity to tell him he wanted to try out for this show. Dan, and by fate, by the grace of God and Marcus Freeman, he was selected as a top 50 player to come try out. And in that try out, he balled. And he sparked a relationship with a Michael Irvin.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Congratulations. And did the show. And it was a runner up. He did not win. He did not win. He did not get chosen by the playmaker. But he went to Canada in the CFL and created a... Empire career.
Starting point is 00:46:43 And now he drove a Maybach to the city. And now I came here Maybach to the city. And now I came here in a Rolls Royce. Have you run into Michael Irvin since? Yeah, I talk to him all the time. Do you ever say, thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you? I do, not in that tone.
Starting point is 00:46:56 You should. Also, Dan attributed criticism to me and I hadn't spoken on the beat yet. I like what you did there. Thank you. I like did there. Thank you. I like, nope. Thank you. There.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. Okay, there it is. So what I would like, my constructive criticism is I love where you took the sample. I was thinking about it more in the realm of an old school hip hop beat. Soul. The whole thing plays off the front, right?
Starting point is 00:47:23 Yeah, there's a sample to it where like, think like Kanye beats. Yeah. Right, where it's the old school Kanye hop beat. The whole thing plays off the front, right? Yeah, there's a sample to it where like, think like Kanye beats, right? Where it's the old school Kanye. Just this? Yeah, it's like you give me that and it's a... All right, I'll work on it for next week. I got you. There you go.
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