The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Bald Guys and Plane Crashes

Episode Date: May 5, 2025

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Proximo. Cuervo.com. Please drink responsibly. Cuervo. Welcome to the Big Sui, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry. I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there, that hasn't happened to you guys.

I've done it. And now here's the marching band to nowhere, fat face and the habitual liar. This episode is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings, the show that you're watching. to you guys? I've done it. And now here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face and the habitual liar. This episode is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings, the crown is yours. We have some breaking news out of the college football world gang if you would like it. Whoa, the dookie, wait a minute. Seems like we don't have a choice. Is this a dookie bomb situation? Is this where are you? College football, you? Yeah, well, you know, I'm trying to expand

my horizons this season, so we'll see. Maybe I'll dabble in some college, who knows. But this is from Pete Thamel. By the way, I had a thing not too long ago where I, the ESPN app, we'll get to the news in a second. The ESPN app, I don't know if you guys have noticed, plays some dirty rod and tricks on you sometimes, right? Where you open the app and then you go to click scores

or news or whatever, and they have an ad that pops up over the different options that you would normally pick on, right? So I don't know how this happened, it was one of those times, it's usually like, order our UFC pay per view and it's like, I will throw my phone away before I'm gonna give you $60 for a UFC pay per view. Like we're not doing that right now.

But somehow I was trying to get some sort of breaking news or score update or whatever and I subscribed to Pete Thamel. So if you guys ever have any Thamel questions, I have no idea how to unsubscribe to Pete Thamel, but the app tricked me into subscribing to Pete Thamel. So I'm a Thamel man, as they say. No one says that.

Oh. I thought that ESPN made it so that you couldn't accuse them publicly as a former ESPN employee of, what was it, dirty rotten tricks? Who? They made that who? They didn't tell me anything. They didn't even tell me I don't work there anymore.

I may still be an ESPN employee, honestly. That whole thing went down in a very weird way. Anywho, so breaking news out of the college football ring. Michigan head coach, Sharon Moore, is expected to be suspended for two games for the upcoming 2025 season as part of a self-imposed sanction based on the Connor Stallions investigation. So finally, some justice.

Sharon Moore, who was not the head coach during that scandal, will be suspended for two games, self-imposed. And those two games, it doesn't say which two games. I'm assuming. Just any two games. Well, that's the thing, right? Two games of his choosing. We always assume it's just two sequential games,

but I guess there's no rules if you're self-imposing which two games. So if it's the first two games, it's New Mexico and Oklahoma But if I'm looking at their schedule and I'm sure own more I say you know what I'll take New Mexico and Maybe maybe I'll maybe I'll coach a week and then I'll come back and be suspended again for Central, Michigan Or I'll hold off a little bit. We got Purdue in November. I'd kind of pick and choose my two games, right? I I'd kind of pick and choose my two games, right? I would I would do I would penalize myself for four have Greg. Oh, I like that four has it sounds like worse than two games

Yeah, you know our eight eight quarters eight quarters option Greg yeah, I think Stu got's doing a private show for me here. Right. Where he says, give him a break, his body hurts. He's confused. He's confused, give him a break, his body hurts from dancing too much this weekend. I just, the thing that I want to address

is that as that music was playing, what happened, Chris, can I keep you here for just a second? Because we need to produce your father here. What just happened as you played the Dookie Bomb sound, play it again for me if you don't mind. Dookie Bomb. He dropped a Dookie. Greg Cody was looking all over the studio,

not understanding where all those sounds were coming from and didn't lay out for Stugatz to deliver one of his signature rhythmic chemistry lines back when we were a show everyone loved that he dropped a dookie. And you just trampled it because you were looking all over the room scared of sounds.

Well, I looked as a frying pan back there. I glanced to the left as somebody beating a frying pan. A bunch of noises I'd never heard before you know I was momentarily stunned it's a dookie bomb that's what a dookie bomb does it momentarily stuns you so now be stunned everyone Jim Harbaugh went without penalty to great glory and fame and Conor Stallion's and also Michigan's a champion by the way that's forever more and yeah never mind well all that, cheaters win. Remember when we thought the NFL was going to prevent

Jim Harbaugh from coaching in the NFL because he cheated? That was a funny time. Funny. I mean, look, what's happened to sports the last few years in terms of everyone realizes, oh, everyone's just a greedy and no one can be punished because all these people realize they have their own power and who's Belichick dating?

Well no, Sharon Moore was punished even though he didn't actually commit any of the crimes that's right right well of course that's how that one it's opening does sure on always go down at levatore show and his jim always get promoted that's it you know what that's good code right there always happens to the ball guy that is good code

just get coached your future own engine yes Yes, does Jim in that spot always get promoted and does Sharone get penalized? Yes, that's correct. That's America. That's life. That's sports. Hey, Trump doesn't know if he has to respect the Constitution. And Saban's going up to him and saying, hey, can you fix NIL? Sure, executive order. Okay, sure, put him in charge of everything. Is Sharone bald? I don don't think he's bald I don't think that Stu gots Understands the code we're talking about. He thinks it's bald related always happens to the hat guy Well, it's but it's it's also on Yeah, well it's two gods

I don't believe has been keeping college football tabs the way Billy the Dookie is. You know, that's, Stugots is. I start keeping tabs in October. I also, like, as I told you, it's not by choice. I subscribe to Thamel, so I get his every thought. Did you accuse ESPN of dirty rotten tricks? No, I would never.

What, no, you, oh, wait a minute. No, I would never do such a thing. He still works there. Exactly, they made me my employer. I can't do that. Put it may be my employer at Leviton show all right I want to do an oral history on this I want I want to know what happened there at Leviton show I've confirmed he has hair got an investigative report you did so yep Sharon always goes down in that situation. He will get two games

He does have hair Stu gots accused him of also being bald because he's a criminal now for what Jim Harbaugh did In Stu gots his defense. It was tough to find a photo without a hat on a lot of hat wearing I didn't say anything about being a criminal. I didn't say no, but he's Penalized two games. He was he wears a hat hat well, I will tell you that. He rocks a hat. Yes. Penalized two games makes him, in the eyes of the NCAA, a criminal. But that's just funny.

It doesn't matter what you are in the eyes of the NCAA. They can no longer decide who is and isn't criminals, but here you got a two-game scapegoat. For a controversy we talked about, a lot more than either of these penalties will last. There's a couple of documentaries about it. I thought that the NCAA didn't really have power over anything anymore.

They don't. So why are we even doing this? That's why Nick Saban's going straight to the top. Hey Saban, fix this, the players are getting too much of the money. All right, yeah, sure, why couldn't we trust those two old white men in charge? That'll work out for everybody.

And then Sharone will get two games. Let's do that for the rest of the time. And also maybe deport my parents. What? What? What? I mean you take two games. We never do that, not if the Constitution,

I don't know, is the answer to whether the president has to respect the Constitution. And they're already sending people out. It's like the worst I told you so of all time. I don't think these things are connected. They're pretty connected. But you take two games to be the head coach of Michigan sure with a smile Yes, with a big smile on your face, of course, especially if you're sure

And Jim's always get up Yeah, of course Old Jim's always gonna get promoted Did he get his salary for these two games that he wasn't responsible for? It's a great question. Because like, it's a great question. Two weeks off, I mean come on. I bet it's a paid vacation. Probably right. Just, Sharon you'll do this for us right? Just go to the Bahamas, maybe Buddy Hield will be there. And Jazz, I mean it's October. Man, Bahamas has to do better there, wouldn't we agree? That's not a great, that like I would have thought there would be.

Deandre Ayton, man. They have a ton of track stars, just no one here knows track stars. Oh, well that's correct, that's correct. No, that is the truth, that's of course the truth. Bunch of Olympians, yeah, different ones. Okay, I don't know. And I'm sure famous cricketers,

cricket's big in the Bahamas, but you know. We don't do cricket. Yeah. Excellent work, Stugat. What I did. Seriously, what did he do? I wasn't talking about crickets. Not crickets. Buddy and the Crickets. What? He's right. Yep. He's not right. Buddy Holly. All right, so tell me more, old man who dance too much this weekend buddy holly in the crickets what what i'd i'm here since you don't do back in my days anymore right

i am here for impromptu back in my day okay here at the floor is yours buddy cricket and the hollies right well that's got nothing to do with back in my day because i don't just give us just give us thirty second is back in my day we will buddy hollywood you just made a reference it was back in your day if you're not going to write these anymore we should just do them like i'm just saying in the early days of rock and roll late fifties in the very early sixties before we'd ever heard of

beetle mania buddy cricket was a thing his group was called the the crickets buddy holly and the Crickets. I mean, it's their rock and roll Hall of Famers, I think, and if they're not, they should be. I don't have that Hall of Fame vote, so I can't be sure, but I'm pretty sure. You know, that'll be the day. I'm not just saying that phrase, that was the name of one of their popular songs. That'll be the day. Although it could have come off as that'll be the day they'll make me a rock and roll Hall of Fame voter. But

you know, God bless Buddy Holly died in a plane crash like most rock and roll stars of the day. That's not bad. I believe he did. More than one is not most. Yeah, in Greg's defense, more than one. More than one is not most. But on the Poll at Leviton Show is more than one most. You mentioned more than one.. You mentioned more than one,

they're in more than one Hall of Fame. They're in the Musicians' Hall of Fame in Nashville, and they're also in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. There you go. 1986, the class of 86. Excellent, yeah. I'm surprised you don't have it back in my day today. I believe you over the weekend told me you had one.

It's Monday. It is Monday. Oh, that's why. Oh, yeah. Glenn Miller died in a plane crash, Patsy Cline, Richie Valens. I mean, these are the names of the day, Dan. Yeah. The big bopper. The only one who's heard of the big bopper.

No, no, I've heard, no, I've heard. I'm just, I am just sinking into the golden marinate that is the 1950s with you. Yeah. And you just referenced a couple of things we we are people respect what is before you an old man who danced too much this weekend after the release of setting his uh... youngest son free so that he could forever be a toddler

greg cody no longer does back in my days on command he writes books and republishes on the but he's in the emeritus status of his career he doesn't just he's earned it yeah that's right he doesn't just write columns every week he makes them he makes books and if you'd like his work he's not just giving it away here even though he's paid for content to write back in my days live but if you're gonna make references that musty because when when did all of this happen with the plane crash? That was 1959, but in Greg's defense, there is a more modern reference he's looking for

with musicians dying in a plane crash. The lead singer and guitarist of Leonard Skinner died in a plane crash in 1977. Yeah, and the weird thing is a lot of those guys and women were 27, that's the magic age. The 27 Club. If you're 27, you don want to leave the house if you're a rock and roll star because you're getting an airplane. Buddy unfortunately left us at 22 which is incredibly young for a two-time Hall of Famer. Didn't you just say it

happened at 27? I think Jim Morrison died at 27. I know Amy Winehouse died at 27. Yeah for sure. Janis Joplin. Loved Amy. So what happened? Why'd you get that number wrong? Well, in one case, I didn't say everyone who's 27 died. Most. He's mixing the overdoses with the plane crashes. That's what he's not remembering. Confirm Jim Morrison, 27.

Only the good die young. Yeah, hello. Thank you, Billy, very helpful. That's Lionel Richie, yes. No, that's Billy Joel. That's Billy Joel, That's a big fun Billy Joel, what are you talking about? Huge huge fun. Only the good day young Billy Joel man. I said hello is Lionel Richie Okay, I see a lot of titles flying around yeah few songs

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Sorry. Adultery! Oh! Yeah! Wait a minute. We are back. We've been waiting for this one. This is the Don LeBataar Show with the Stoogads. So we'll get the Back in My Days live.

Yes, you're pointing at a picture of yourself that's off screen of you dancing at the wedding. Go ahead and put it on screen guys and stop distracting my host. He's distracted by sounds and the sound of his own voice and whenever he's dancing. They made me wear a boutonniere. You look great by the way. He was complaining about the boutonniere all day. Who's they? Who's they made you? I don't wear a boutonniere.

Who's they made you? You know the people, the wedding planner, you know that whole thing. The powers that be. Who are the people? Wait a minute. What is, a cabal? Who are the people who made you do anything as the 70 year old, you didn't pay for this thing, did you? A good portion of it, huh. Yeah. Did that hurt?

No, hell no. There's a price that he knows about and then there's the real price. That's how it works with him and my mom. You broke even at the bar though. Whatever he thinks they paid, it was probably 20% more. A giant toddler set into the wild here after releasing his son.

He has no idea what he paid, just enough to complain. His wife actually handles all the finances. If I showed him any of the numbers, he would be confused, run into the other room and drink 12 milliliter. He didn't even care about the money. He cared about the boutonniere. Right. I don't like the look of a boutonniere, I think it's silly. It's a little accoutrement

that's unnecessary. So did you get rushed into fashion or bullied into fashion by your son's wedding planners? Yeah. I mean Tatiana, the lovely bride, picked out the color combination. I didn't even know brown shoes went with dark. But you look great though. Thank you. So you look better than you've ever looked. Why would you not accept that they made you look better than you've ever looked, whether you liked wearing what you were wearing or you didn't? Well, my only complaint is about the boutonniere. You know, I think what you're saying is you would have looked good with or without that thing, right? Yeah, sure. You look good before you put it on. You wouldn't look good without it on. No, that's not true. It's just something you're always kind of adjusting

because it falls. It starts to tilt. So like throughout the whole day, you're kind of always just adjusting it. Exactly. I don't want to have to worry about that. How much did your father dance? More than I've ever seen him. Like I'm telling you, most weddings, you have to pull him out for a couple songs just to get him out there. Like there were multiple times where I just saw him from a distance

beelining, dancing his way onto the dance floor. Do you realize that this is an old man who appreciates life more than he ever has? This is the happiest Greg Cody you will ever see because his granddaughter was also there. It might be his last dance. Whoa! I mean, he also got into the brown liquor pretty early.

My man. He had two old fashions before we even got to the wedding, so. That's not true. Was it three? Oh, before the wedding began. We were at the wedding, it just hadn't begun yet. Right.

At about 3 p.m., the wedding started at 5.45. Wait a minute. You were in the confines. Look, this is the thing. He's a toddler. He doesn't know how to drink and he's got a lot of experience. Doesn't know how to do it. I get that from your mother. She sees with a with a an old-fashioned in my

heart you don't know how to drink because three old-fashioned by three o'clock your hummin baby i damn right you're headed your head at the uh... you're headed to falling in the bushes and you're headed to knocking my brother's paintings off the wall now if that was originally there and i don't know that to knocking my brother's paintings off the wall at his original art exhibit. But no, I kept, I was very good the whole night. Until the ride home. There are allegations I could fall asleep on the ride home.

Chris, does your father know how to drink, yes or no? No, he does. I mean, he can put him away. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He knows how to drink, dude. He doesn't know when to stop drinking. He knows how to drink beer. He doesn't know when to stop drinking. He knows how to drink beer. Hold on, I don't think you understand what I'm asking you.

I believe that your father will put together a cocktail of combinations that would kill anything that wasn't a creature that had the devil's feet. I'm telling you that your father can sustain it and handle any combination of drinks drunk from three to midnight, no matter what his age. Yes, it's a testament to his lifelong stamina because yes, he can put them back. What I'm saying to you, he doesn't know how to put them back in a way that totally governs whether his wife will know at 11 p.m., he's in the bushes or in bed that is true He doesn't know the combinations of what to avoid when to mix when to start with this when to wait hold off the brown

Liquor till later. No, he just you know, he gets excited father and the brat the father of the bride offers him a Long Island what she's supposed to know that no, but there's where you careen into a real holy hell You're the art Briles 5 p.m.. Here's the long Island. I stay no No, Greg you know But of course he's the devil all right wow and that's the happiest. I've ever seen the devil Those are wonderful feet for the record. I never had a long time. I say I don't know what you're talking about you had, you had one. But before the wedding, myself and my future in-law, a beautiful man, we had a drink together. It was a ceremonial moment. We both had a... and they were at that bar, man. They make

a wonderful old-fashioned... He sounds wonderful. What's his name? Mark. Mark Capote. I thought he didn't know either, He was like he's a beautiful man Marcelo, but we call him mark right yeah that ruins the joke of course mark was Drake you man. It's on your dime What are you gonna? Do say no to mark get out of here can't say no to mark you put it back Jack Yeah, there you go. It was a lovely evening. It's good time was had by all okay excellent punctuation. Thank you LeBron LeBron what Uh, man. LeBron.

What about him? Not at my wedding. Yeah. Or your sons. Right. Definitely not at my wedding. There was no reason for that. It was just a glitch in my system

over 20 years in sports journalism. I didn't even have a LeBron. Just pivot to LeBron? LeBron! LeBron! I didn't even have anything to say there. Just out of habit, you said the word LeBron. I saw a report that he might want to come back here, thought I'd have it, you said the word LeBron.

I saw a report that he might wanna come back here but only if Riley leaves. Oh wow. Wait, you jerk. He just made up that report. He did that and then DK aggregated it. It was amazing. Right, he's the other kid.

He's a genius. I threw out a hypothetical. I said what if LeBron wants to wrap up his career and things the right way, reaches out to Mickey, it's like Mickey, I don't like how things ended, but I'm not coming back if Pat's here. I'll come back and I'll bring KD, but Pat's gotta go. What do you do?

Jeremy just whispered to me, I think Billy's the greatest of all time. I think you might be the greatest to ever do what it is that you do, Billy. Thank you. I just wanna give you your flowers. That's truly remarkable work that you've done. It's amazing.

Dropping dookie bombs. And it caught fire, that story, because that's how much LeBron we have talked over 20 years. But the thing that I was actually going to say that is funny, as basketball kind of moves on without him and it's Lucas team and talk about me and Brawny. Oh, MCL sprain like if the timing on the details of that and it may be true but it also did feel as let me grab one last thing here as the young people take the sport away from me

because I'm the oldest player in the league and I think most people would say as Steph gets to advance because Buddy made the threes, and LeBron didn't have enough of those guys who made the threes even though they went to get Luca to get him. Right. LeBron's looking at the end of his career, and he's now being left behind, right?

Like that's. Yes, yes. If Billy's wrong, and he doesn't end up in Miami, and Riley retires, I think he's going to Dallas. I think I know what LeBron is up to. I think he sent Anthony Davis to Dallas. LeBron's gonna go to Dallas. It's LeBron, Anthony Davis, and Kyrie, and then Luca doesn't re-up with the Lakers,

and Luca also goes back to Dallas. How about that? That will be plenty of help for LeBron James. I like that. I think that's what he's up to, Dave. I don't wanna do that today. I think it's unfair. You brought up LeBron. You brought him up. I did bring him up, but LeBron James. I like that. I think that's what he's up to, definitely. I don't wanna do that today. I think it's unfair. You brought up LeBron.

You brought him up. I did bring him up, but LeBron. LeBron! I didn't ask you to. I'm gonna do it 10 years from now. I'm gonna do it in retirement, walking on a beach in the 80s, in my 80s. I'm gonna be walking.

LeBron! When you wake up. I'm just gonna shout it into the T.N. I mean 20 years! We've fed it this teat. LeBron! I'm just gonna shout it into the T. I mean 20 years, we've fed it this teat. LeBron. So you're 70? This is the whole, no I'm talking about years. Thank you.

I do also like you said if Billy's wrong, is that I didn't just make that hypothetical up. No, he's still not sure. That's because you're that good at it. That Stu gots is still confused whether it's real or not and wanted to entertain it as an interest. Here's what's actually gonna happen with LeBron because he's gonna be doing that in his 80s.

Let me see what Thamel's thinking. Again, put on the poll, At Leviton Show is the ESPN app up to dirty rotten tricks, I think was the accusation that was made. Please find me uh... kit that the video of greg cody falling into the bushes please don't because i'd like to play that here uh... and talk a little more about how uh... greg went through life this weekend because we haven't talked enough about how and

where his body hurts yes are speaking of video at the video department told me we cannot replay the Lorenzo Charles dunk that we talked about earlier, but he did indeed dunk it. Okay? Okay. I mean, Derek Wittenberg trying to play that off like a pass instead of a shot is laugh out loud funny, but Charles grabbed the ball, both hands on the rim, and he flushed it. Wow.

Slayed it. He did slay it. What do you need? You want to know where I hurt? What do you need? Yeah, you were looking at me and I... You hadn't asked me a question and so I'm wondering what do you need?

If you're talking about where I hurt I hurt in my heart. No, I'm just kidding. You hurt your wallet because Mark that stiff Mark... No, no, no. No, no. I want to make clear the-

That's stiff. I don't know whether Mark listens to your podcast or not. I want to make clear that both sides of the family, you know, paid very sparsely. I'm accusing Mark of being a stiff. No, that's not true. No, don't do that to me. He's a good man. A handsome man.

I played golf with him. Nice. Who paid? We, it was Dutch Street. Nice. Yeah, we both played golf with him. Nice, who paid? It was Dutch Treat. Nice. Yeah, we both played for her. Greg Cody is good at Dutch Treat.

Why is it a Dutch Treat, by the way? Why is it called a Dutch Treat? I'm not sure. I don't know. Everyone pays their own way? Yeah, pretty much. That's a Greg Cody staple, is it not? No, I'll pay for somebody else.

How often does Greg Cody grab a bill? In fairness, I was invited to play in that round ago what percentage of the time is great cody grab a bill uh... pretty frequently for your kids uh... yeah i mean pretty often yet but not all i don't know what i thought doesn't i don't i mean my wife come when you say how often do i grab a bill you're including

my wife will forgive me for this intrusion on your family life i don't think paying the bill for your family is uh... paying the bill just because their toddlers your toddlers your wife picking up the bill is something she's done my in might be the entire time of no sure uh... and so you picking up the bill for your family's not what i consider picking up the bill i've i'm saying outside of that how often are you in the company of others that aren't family and you're picking up the bill i mean mean, we did it at breakfast Sunday morning.

We had a group of about 12 or 15 people. It was the post-wedding with all the people in town breakfasts. He tried to get outside the wedding, yes. Can I talk to you? Chris, can we talk to your mom? Can we figure something out here? I think I can corner your father here

because I'm guessing your father likes to appear more magnanimous than he actually is. I'm a generous man. Contrary to the way you pigeonhole me. I don't think you are, actually. No, I'm than he actually is. Let's call him. I'm a generous man. Contrary to the way you pigeonhole me. I don't think you are, actually. I'm a very generous man. Let's call Mark. Yeah.

That's a good idea. No, let's not. How would Yeti say he's paid? I think Yeti's very happy. Fair. Wow. Hello, dolly. Da da da.

Gotcha. Me on the other hand. Gotcha. Yeah. Gotcha. Generous with a capital G. Yep. Your signature line being I showed you and breaking out into hello Dolly.

Cha cha cha. It was. Gotcha. Get me like that all the time. I want to be got like that every time where he just broke into runtime showtime show tune I don't know why he did chorus line He was so happy and his cha-cha came with one of those demon digits that he was pointing in my chest And he was dancing to Hello Dolly.

Please Jeremy, can you get me some more information on Hello Dolly? I want more Back in My Days that are live and just, we can do a whole library of Back in My Days if we just get you more agitated. I do have another update though, because Richie Valens and Buddy Holly and all these plane crashes we were talking about,

they all actually died in the same plane crash, which inspired the song American Pie. Yeah. There was a movie about it. By Don McLean. Yeah. Couple movies. But Dave Music died, not journalism.

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I didn't think that sounded real. I really didn't, you know. It was not fake. It was in no way fake. You can spot a woman faking it. Stugats! Yes I can, Jess. Expert.

I've been married 40 years. This is the Don LeBotar Show with the Stugarts. And by the way, I couldn't watch the Kentucky Derby because I was at the wedding, but journalism, the betting favorite... Sad day for journalism. Yeah, it finished second. And the weird thing is, journalism was beaten out by a horse named internet now we're not no not as that was a great name and for a paper is that a coincidence what but

what's funny about that surely people are making the uh... they're doing the symbolism right of sovereign being the winner beating out journalism like is actually happening in the real life not with horses but the political animals like weight surely that joke is being made everywhere, yes? I hope so. The idea that today, Stugatz,

I've been wrong today on the Clippers, you know you have one wrong, yes, here, or no? I have one wrong, I was wrong on something. No. What was I wrong on? Horse racing is dead? Horse racing is dead. Okay, biggest numbers in 25 years.

I don't care. I mean, wait for the Belmont Stakes to come around. If this horse who won the Derby doesn't win the Preakness, Preakness will get big numbers. Okay. Do you know the name of the horse? We were just talking about it. Internet.

I have no idea if that horse doesn't win Internet, doesn't win the Preakness, no one, and I mean no one, will watch the Belmont Stakes. No one. The name of the horse is Sovereignty. and internet not a bad name for a horse quite frankly And I say that as a horse owner about to buy a second horse really yeah But about to buy a second horse yeah about to get into a second horse Philly another Philly we like oh yeah Yeah, we like Philly's because on the back end you get the stud fee and everything and yeah

You know they they give you a little puppy, a little colt. It's all good. Sovereignty beating journalism in 2025 in the Kentucky Derby has still got sticks to his guns on horse racing's dead, but man, more people watch it in 25 years. You know why? Because gambling's really popular.

The musical Hello Dolly actually crushed at the Tony Awards in 1964, despite tough competition from Barbara Streisand's Funny Girl. Now what's funny about that is ultimately Streisand would go on to star in the Hello Dolly movie in 1969. It's a beautiful coincidence that you just pointed out and Louis Armstrong made a big hit record of that, Satchmo. That's right.

Another beautiful entertainer. Okay, let's sharpen it up. Back in my day, we'll do them live every day. Like we'll do them live whenever you wanna do them, just come in with whatever you got Greg Cody bores you to death with historical nuggets from the 50s That's how the Levitard show has decided to keep up in the internet Great Greg as a as a member of team valor and a horse owner

Do you get you get better fees for Phillies and for studs like stud fees? Phillies have a longer shelf life really because when they're done their race careers chances are they're gonna uh... they're they're gonna you know have babies uh... which depending on how well the philly has done in her race career the the babies may be a new generation of income what don't i have this right that uh... it's i'd be only thing well

maybe i'd maybe i have this wrong i think it's sort of majestic that sovereignty beats journalism in 2025 in a horse racing that everybody's watching as the world burns and the apocalypse goes is like ah yeah sovereignty is beating the apocalypse is beating journalism uh and I know these things aren't connected right Stugat? Mm-hmm. None of these things are connected. Greg Cody is our horse racing expert. He is lovely. Were not all of the horses in that race

a descendant of Secretariat? All of them? Do I have that wrong? Is that incorrect information? I'm just, I'm simply, I had someone text it to me this weekend, and it's not something that I even bothered to see that i even bothered to look up and i should have because it was just coming to mind now as greg cody was a horse racing expert stood out sticks to his opinion that

horse racing is dead that in the move for ten years and he doesn't have another opinion about horse racing as gregs a horse owner but not a good enough expert in this realm to actually talk about a horse race that a lot of people were watching this weekend But we weren't because because Stu got says horse racing is dead I would find it very hard to believe that every horse in a big 20 horse field Was related to secretary will believe it because Dan's information is correct. Okay. Yeah, I mean that's the thing about horse got around uh... yet and she's but again they you know that that's the thing about uh... the the lives of horses living on but bloodline is a is a big thing in racing

so if if you can say well i'm i'm a fifth i'm a five-generation descendant of secretariat that really increases the the price of your horse these horses work hard okay will chamberlain will chamberlain made his way around and how many how many horses to secretary secretary outside of more than six hundred and sixty registered fools in his lifetime with several such sires are damn showing up in each kentucky derby horses pedigree it's funny as the sport of if you look at what it is you're actually doing there and

the history of America as this race runs through this particular time in America where the president is on television saying I don't know if I have to follow the Constitution. Like that's a thing that's actually happening now as he also talks about a third term and this is the first year. Like this is just starting as he shakes the world's economy. The fact that we're all looking at the history of bloodlines running in a race and just at the finish line, we're all watching because we need one minute of relief from the holy hell that is every day in this country these days.

It's an amazing picture as sports art. How many, like, how far removed from Secretariat do you have to be? Like, how many duds has Secretariat put out there? You know, where it's like, oh, this is Secretariat. Fails more than he succeeds based on only Stugatsa's measurement of you gotta win championships. That's why it's less impressive to me

when I hear he's done it 600 times. Like, if I had 600 kids. But I'm sure those are all profitable, well, I'm guessing those are profitable businesses that are being sired there in each. Well, you tell me, business owner. I don't know, I'd actually be curious about horse racing's history and how we get to,

like Secretariat sires 660 horses. How many of them are winners, and is the secret really that? Just get those genetics in there because I don't know what the failure or success rate is is but i do know that they are breeding that horse that way because they think there is commerce in that penis right and if the if if the bloodline includes secretariat the horse will be

more valuable at at at sale or at auction you put you put in human terms and it's like the horses running today, Secretariat was their great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather, right? So what are the odds that Secretariat's genes would last generation after generation after generation? That's why horses who have a lineage with Secretariat, probably a very small percentage of them

are able to win major races, let alone Triple Crown races. The last was born in 1990. I will tell you this, Greg, Lady Secret was the 86 horse of the year. That is a descendant of Secretariat and risen star in 1988 when the Preakness of the Belmont. Okay, but that's a lot closer to Secret i'd terry says now you're talking about you know decades later this probably a question for ron mcgill tomorrow but so horse incest seems to be like a very prevalent thing you would think right like if everyone's related to secretariat

one of these horses are are products of incest are they not are we assuming or we not assuming that these animals, while treated better than most, that this is probably an industry that is not the best to these animals, even as it's trying to take care of these animals, because these animals are a giant business for rich people. So one is led to believe that- I'd love to be a horse.

Even at the rate they're dying? Everybody dies. Yeah, but dying on tracks, like because of what the upkeep on some of these things requires. That was prevalent at an unnamed California track a couple of years ago. I think they've cleaned that up. And you know, there are policing

in the horse racing industry. If you get injured, they kill you. That's correct. Humanely, though. Oh, I mean, yeah. I mean, if you fall and break a leg. I mean, yeah, I wanna be a horse. Yes, I wanna be a horse. Both of you.

I mean, do it with care, they're gentle. Well, there was money there, and Stugatsch just went over there and was like, uh. If you could put me out of my misery gently, actually, you know what, Stu, I'm with you. Stugatsch doesn't like the part of just, hey, Stugatsch, you're gonna have to run really hard and fast the whole time.

Just, can I have a bunch of sex and just win trophies and run occasionally and win the race, not finish seventh and break my ankle and get killed? I feel like there's something we can do as a society for horses, right? Like you see little doggies, sometimes they lose a leg or whatever. They have like little wheels, they roll around.

Like, there's wheels big enough for horses, are there not? Why can't we have horses with wheels? That's a good question, whether or not, you know what, I think though, no, I think that a horse, if it breaks its legs, like soon thereafter, like I don't think, I don't believe that the bloodstream, they're fragile animals that way.

I think you break the horse, you're keeping it from a lifetime of misery, not just because it can't stand. That's correct. No, give it a wheel, a wheel over it, three legs of wheel. Okay, fair enough. We can figure it out, we figured out everything.

A wagon wheel. If they fall off that wheel, I don't think they're smart enough to be like, all right, let me relax here until they fix, they're just gonna start panicking, and then all of a sudden, you know, another wheel. Yes, put it on the poll at Levitard Show, should a horse that breaks its leg get a wheel?

As opposed to being murdered. Yes, get a wheel, as opposed to being murdered. I am told that videos now found the video, that videos found the video of Greg Cody saying that, yes, I can handle my liquor fine. I believe Chris Cody made a lot of money at a Moss Miami by showing people secretly this video of Greg Cody. This is being revealed for the first time.

So he's over across the driveway, and he starts sprinting, and he's jogging, and he goes down. It's raining and there he is into the bush. It was wet. It was wet. I slipped. Excuse me. My son taking that video is the equivalent of watching somebody drowning and instead of helping them not drown, you're filming them as they go down. And then made money off it.

The way that they do off the horse races. Correct. And instead of breaking your leg, we continue to make money. I lifted you up, I grabbed your arm. Yeah, after videotaping everything. If there was a situation where a horse was given a wheel. This guy.

And then the race happened with a three-legged horse with a wheel, would you bet on the horse with the wheel? Of course. It'd be like harness racing. This guy. Ed Garland. Do you know Cody and I did a harness race?

What? Oh no, we have. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I think we have that photo of my dad somewhere. And I won, by the way. Really? Thank you. Yeah.

And I got accused of going too fast. Hold on. Can I just show you guys the disconnect between the two rooms because jeremy wanted to jump into billy's arms because right at the end of where the clock should have been he shouted at garland a joke funny to four people but funny to those four people uproarious i assure you that still gots chris roy and uh...

uh... greg cody have no idea what that joke or references because they just s jumped into song and greg remembered heroically that time he wrote a chariot and so he wasn't listening to anybody just wanted to talk about himself and that time he was on a on a so you have no idea what billion jeremy just did a private show for four people i don't know what that joke what now what, what was it? What's the name?

Ed Garland? Yeah, Ed Garland. Sounds like a baseball umpire's name. That's a home plate umpire. He might have dabbled, honestly. Yeah. Put it on the poll, at LeBotard Show, does Ed Garland sound like the name of a home plate umpire?

Absolutely.