The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Capturing The Real Moments (feat. Tony Reali)

Episode Date: April 14, 2025

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Cuervo. Welcome to the Big Sui, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there.

That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face and the habitual liar. There were a handful of interesting things from basketball yesterday very quietly and surprisingly given that I'm gonna say four or five years ago nobody in Miami with the heat or otherwise wanted Chris Paul And Chris Paul yesterday at the age of 39 years old finished playing all 82 games in a regular season when we all thought that he was done three, four, five years ago. A testament to all of the science and different things being done by

nutritionists and body workers to allow the aging process to play out differently. Also interesting as it regards playing time, Mikhail Bridges of the Knicks playing for six seconds and just committing a foul so he can continue his Iron Man streak. 550 plus games, asinine to do it that way. Just asinine to do it that way. That is not an Iron Man. That is just an accounting that is an accounting

No, I think the asinine part is that they're just holding him out So like they're gonna end his streak because of load management I think that's a bigger issue than him like just trying to use whatever he can to keep it going and just foul somebody and Be cute about it the fact that we're just all resigned to load management is just the thing that comes with that sport. I'm going to say here first, Nick's in trouble. I'm just put that out there. Just kind of push that boat. You're not the first one to say that on this show. Nobody said the Knicks are in

trouble. Yes. Who hasn't been here in six years. A mean said it four days ago. That's not true. Uh, the Knicks are in trouble. I'll let you be the second. The Knicks are in trouble because they're Oh, and eight against the Cavs and Celtics this season. And those are the two teams they got to be better than, and they're not better than either one of those teams. And that's why they are in trouble because they're 0 and 8 against the Cavs and Celtics this season and those are the two teams they got to be better than and

they're not better than either one of those teams and that's why they're in trouble that's a good Knicks team that's a that Knicks team is one of the best eight seven or eight teams in the league it's a good team but 0 and 8 against the Celtics and Cavs this year take it or leave it Tony the playoff started cannot be the first the playoff started the lineups are set everything is set I'm the first one to say it, Knicks are in trouble. Give it a second, that's all I'm gonna give you.

The Knicks also finish 0-10 against the top three teams in the league, because they lost both times to OKC. And Jaime Haka scored 41 points. Well let's talk about that one for a second. Hold on, pull out that box score for a second. This last Sunday of the NBA season is the greatest day. Pat Conditon 43 points, Landry Shamett 29 day. Pat Conantin, 43 points. Landry Shammet, 29 points.

It is just, oh my God. I think I've got better for you. I wanna look this up. You guys help me because I have not looked it up, okay? The last day of the regular season is wonderful because the Miami Heat can conclude the worst season in recent memory by losing at the buzzer to a 19 year old bub.

That is, I'm gonna guess the first time that a game winner has ever been hit by a 19 year old, although Kobe may have done it. I'm just guessing there. And the reason I'm gonna guess there is because it's the first time a 19 year old has ever been allowed to take the game winner. That's not something that we do in that sport. Bub Carrington, let's look at that box score because

we're going off into the fringes of the NBA. The best stuff in the NBA yesterday was twofold. A bunch of 30 year olds playing for a week off, like playing as hard as they can so they could get, I don't want them to do any playing games. And then Denver doing that to Houston because we know Denver's gonna do that as they can so they could get I don't want to do any playing games and then Denver doing that to Houston because we know Denver is gonna do that to Houston if they see him in the playoffs like the Houston doesn't have anything for Denver that way and the quote I'm looking at on Malone from an anonymous source quote I cannot say any player was vouching for Malone at the end. Not a player was vouching

because and in the story that I read he's very emotional he gets very intense with the bad he gets he cries with the good and one of the things that was happening is Michael Porter and Aaron Gordon are like I got real-world issues that aren't as important as this back-to- like, I got real world issues that aren't as important as this back to back. Like I got real profound sadness in my life that is much harder than what you're doing to me when I get to work.

And the disconnect evidently is something that made him get fired and the Nuggets remind you yesterday how it is that they won a championship a couple of years ago. I think the tough part is when you have a fiery coach like that is super emotional, super like screaming. That coaching style only has such a shelf life and it's usually to win you a championship

and then it kind of flames out. Like people have been talking about this earlier, smart basketball people have been talking about earlier, hey, the Mike Malone situation in Denver, there's something up there. You saying that I believe, is common perception and common knowledge. But in all of the coverage that we do of sports, when we make these people not human, and we just file something under tuning him out,

tuning a boss out, do you realize how oppressive an environment has to feel in order for a bunch of people paid millions of dollars to play a game to say, bleep this boss, I'm going to stop playing well, I'm going to stop playing my hardest because of how unhappy I am with the person who's in charge here. Do you realize how human that is? Any of us can understand it, but to be professional is to not be that. You do understand, right, that to be professional is to not be that you do understand right that to be professional is to you get in there and you give everything you've got every

single time but to be professional is often not to be human. Still looking for a more comprehensive list but I found at least four 19 year olds that have hit game-winning baskets at the buzzer AJ Griffin of the Atlanta Hawks, LaMelo Ball did it. You were right to invoke Kobe. LeBron James also did that. Rare when you're trusted with that responsibility at 19, but certainly something that happened in the NBA

after the turn of the century more often. And it goes to show you when your star players kind of tune you out and don't really care about what's going on. Jokic's last games with Michael Malone, 61-33-41. You mentioned ball and I wanted to ask you something that I saw in a YouTube ad the other day, but I didn't really recognize what it was.

So help me because I'm offering you information on something that I saw that I have partial information on. So it's Alonzo Ball commercial and they're talking about his big hands and they say something about blue balls and they say something about Bust balls and I didn't know what it was a commercial for it was gone very quickly And it was obviously a Alonzo Ball commercial for something that involved the word ball Was it Lamello or Alonzo? I thought it was Al Lonzo. I didn't think it was Lomelo. Like he's still getting work?

I thought it was a Lonzo Ball commercial and he's back by the way. He's not his brother obviously but I just simply didn't know what it was for and I didn't look it up and I was confused after seeing it. But I did want to talk about that Clippers Nuggets game and I'm positing, I'm putting in front of all of you the idea that the Mavs last year were a surprising team to have in the finals. Them beating OKC and Luca getting there established Luca as a better player

than a lot of people knew he was, even though everybody knows that he's plenty good, because of how far he advanced in the playoffs and how surprising it was that he advanced in the playoffs. I saw all of you wince a little bit when I said that the Clippers would be the most surprising champion in NBA history after trading Paul George if they are able to stay healthy enough to do damage in the postseason but as the Warriors are now in the play in okay and Draymond Green is saying don't worry about them that they that we're not senior citizens he says we're high-level basketball players will be

fine no disrespect to senior citizens which I love that he threw in at the end Draymond learning no disrespect to senior citizens, which I love that he threw in at the end. Dreymon learning. No disrespect to senior citizens. All of whom are on inside the NBA critiquing the games. The Warriors now have a much harder path because they've got to go through Memphis, they've got to go through the play-in, and then they're going to they're gonna play top seeds. A fascinating series in the first round is Lakers Minnesota. Like that's just, I didn't know who the Lakers were gonna get, but I was gonna be interested in whoever it is that the Lakers got.

But I wanna talk about the Clippers, because do you understand how rare it is to get to the postseason with a team that nobody's been talking about? And to be like, oh, they're good enough. That team is absolutely good enough. Like that's exactly the team that takes out an OKC, where it's like, oh, they got all the 30-year-olds,

and they got a post-president who's gonna, it's just crazy to watch what it is they're getting from their center, Zubach, alongside Harden and Kawhi Leonard. Kawhi Leonard, by the way, give me a stat of the day here. I've got a good stat of the day for you guys, as we have obsessed around here about Jimmy Butler. Start of the day, start of the day, and this is the start of the day.

Start of the day, start of the day, and this is the start of the day. Start of the day, start of the day, and this is the start of the day. Start of the day, start of the day, and this is the start of the day. I am really, really rooting for Kawhi Leonard to remain healthy this postseason because of this stat I'm about to give you and I'm just going to remind you of what the last eight years have brought in basketball and how long ago it seems that Kawhi

Leonard won a championship by himself in Toronto. Jimmy Butler has not beaten Kawhi Leonard and this is a bit of a trick here, because obviously load management makes it so that Kawhi Leonard misses a lot of games. But Jimmy Butler has not beaten Kawhi Leonard in a regular season game since 2016. Because Kawhi Leonard is better at the Jimmy Butler things than Jimmy Butler is, and has been for eight years.

He's just never healthy. So Jimmy Butler gave you 48 minutes yesterday. They went maximum playoff Jimmy to try and get that week off. And he's hurt now because he got he got hit in the thigh. They put everything into. We're gonna beat the Clippers at home and avoid this hard road because we need to get a week off. We're gonna go Jimmy Butler all 48 minutes Jimmy Butler Please play like Jimmy Butler does in the playoffs and he did and they lost at home anyway the issue is to like Jimmy now being hurt with the contusion the thigh after colliding with kawaii midair You got Steph whose thumb is hurt right had a lot of tumors again had 18 points in the fourth quarter looked incredible Draymond is Draymond. He had that neck

I don't know if you saw that play Dan, where he kind of went in for a steal or something and then got hit in the neck, had a stinger or something. So like they're banged up as it is and they already don't have a good track record in the playing as that goes. So it's like, there's a lot of things happening right now where they could get bounced possibly.

Age is super interesting this time of year and the perspective I have from Miami where I'm watching for 13 games of press the gas on a 35 year old oh they never lose they never lose they never lose to all lose three out of the last five try as hard as they can at the end and not not as good enough not good enough to beat the Clippers because the clippers can beat anybody By the way to close the loop it's a lamello ball commercial Puma the one about four four sneakers not balls Well, it's a sneaker commercial on the ball. Yeah, but they'd make a bunch of puns on balls and that is a fine. So

The Miami Heat it was pointed out to me by a hater friend of mine We're one season away the Miami Heat flirting with the play-in again, for that stretch, the Miami Heat playing the Chicago Bulls in the play-in tournament and not fully punching their ticket to the playoffs without having to play more games for the same amount of time that they had the big three in town. Oh, damn.

Four years, like, they went one seed, play-in, play-in, play-in. One more season of this. And it's as long as LeBron James and Chris Bosch and Dwayne Wade. We're all teamed together down here chasing championships. Mike, I feel like I'm going to lock you in here for a second. Okay. Now go back to a couple of seasons ago when we said, Hey, there's a percentage chance that all of a sudden there could be somebody very interesting in town. If you, if you tank the the playing game the Heat need to tank the playing game there's a 2% chance for

Cooper flag 2% sure I thought we were talking about one began so what Mike doesn't like one B so well yeah well they should have tanked for him that thank you yeah no they should tank again because this is a nowhere team going to first 2% chance just I would prefer them lose so that's where I'm at because it's not even like before, where you had proof of concept at least, so they can go on a crazy run from the play-in to the NBA Finals. Like, I think we all know this team is toast,

so I'd rather them just lose and bow out graciously. But people are pretty tired of you speaking for the Heat fan base when you haven't watched most of their games this year and you don't actually care about what happens with the team because of all the things you've been saying for four years, which is they're not good enough, but people. Understood, I'm also tired of their bullshit. The people and the team.

What are we doing here? Masters Monday. This is ridiculous. By the way, if you won the Masters and Tiger wasn't in the field, you didn't win the Masters. Put it on the poll at Levitard Show, if you won the Masters and Tiger wasn't in the field, did you win the Masters. Put it on the poll at Levitard Show. If you won the Masters and Tiger wasn't in the field, did you win the Masters?

In my personal record, Stu Botts. I like this character. I want you to keep working on this character. Stu Botts as golf analyst. I don't know how much more, I'm gonna reach out to Scott Van Peltz if he wants to come on with us Tony reality is gonna be on with us in a second because I do want to talk more about

the celebration of sport which is not something that we get to Do all that often it feels like around the athlete giving you the emotional vulnerability of I was hugely nervous, I conquered doubt. You know while watching this that this feels good to me for reasons that can be identified by what is the customer athlete relationship, the following of an athlete around. You know the story that's walking down

at the end with that camera in his face and you're reading the story. He's not saying anything. Rory McIlroy is walking and the visuals are so striking because it's not merely the emotion you see on his face. It's the entirety of the story. Like you, if there's, you can watch this, watching something for the very first time and not knowing anything about golf and you can see what a majestic moment that is for a human being who is filled with such gratitude

that it can't be kept inside. It leaks out of his eyes and it leaks out of his eyes. Not in the way that normally does with the producer on the morning show getting fed up and that's the way the emotion leaks out that is pure undistilled joy and relief and it's not just his face in the emotions that are telling you that you have more access as a sports fan to the average viewer then the average viewer because you know average viewer, because you know what this

story is, you know what he was carrying and what the relief of that is as he's walking and anyone can identify with the superhuman people being human. And for it to line up somehow, the stars were aligned, for this to be a part of Jim Nance's 11 year farewell tour, you know that after they delivered that broadcast, Jim Nance addressed the team. No, he looked the same way at walking off. He walked into the post-broadcast cocktail hour, reception for producers, directors, technicians alike,

walked in the very same way and told that group of people, we just reported the news. You know he pointed to somebody and said, get me an Arnold Palmer, and let's put some lighter fluid in there. And just whispered his every conversation of how great, was this, how great am I? Yes.

And you're great at all those things. You are as great as you think, Jim. I know you don't lack for confidence. Do you think he may be loose in the tie? Just a little bit. I believe, yeah, I believe that Jim Nance over the last 10 years has slowly, by very small fractions, loosened the tie,

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The Libertard. I had Rachel and Emma both home and I was in a fight with Rachel and I said, if you roll your eyes one more time, there's going gonna be a problem. A big problem. And she said really? What are you gonna do? Stugats. Oh god damn. I mean that's where she... I didn't have an answer. This is the Don LeVatar Show with the Stugats. I thought of Tony Reale yesterday while watching Rory because he was emotionally available and I believe that Tony Reale in the media is one of the rare people who's perpetually emotionally available. The people who watch around the horn have this connection with him over many years.

He's proud of being emotionally available. I'm a little bit ashamed of how emotionally available he is. I'm like, be less emotionally available to him. And I say that as somebody who's weepy. Yeah. I mean, I have a child screaming in the background, very emotionally available at the moment, Antonella. So you sent me a note, and you said,

Rory's crying, and it made me think of you. Thank you for that. So when people cry now publicly and share their emotions in a public space, you think of me. I thought it was amazing. And I know that's a haymaker of a joke from Mike there. I have to give the CBS team all the credit in the world. They nailed that.

That was pitch perfect the whole way. Jim Nansen talked for three minutes. I'm going to put the stopwatch on it. But Nansen and Immelman did not talk for three minutes while the cameras followed and Rory the whole way. And this is a moment in sports. I'm not the biggest golf fan in the world. I don't think you are either, Dan.

You know, I don't know if you've ever covered Augusta before. This is one of those moments that hits you so quickly. This is real, but this is unpredictable for me because I didn't see this coming, you know? I didn't see this much emotion coming from a guy like that. And I loved it. I loved every second of it. Every second of it. I was in awe of how you can get the heaving,

weeping in real time like that. Because so much of what we do now is routine. I think about this on the TV show all the time, right? We use the word, this is a surreal moment, right? What we saw with Roar is a surreal moment. I go the other way. That's a real moment, that's not surreal. We have taken so much of what's real

and made it just routine. And just this is the way we do things. It's the way it goes, that it seems to be what what we just saw yesterday. So that's not surreal yesterday. That's real. You mentioned that I'm not much of a golf fan. I can say with honesty now that the statute of limitations is up that my least favorite thing to do anywhere in the empire you exist in with Ryde Home and Kelleher

was the Master's Thursday PTI that I had to do when everyone was out and no one wanted me in and all of a sudden I'm talking about VJ Singh is up by a stroke after 9 holes and I don't really want to be talking about it for 90 seconds. I remember this I giving you a research packet that was 4 pages thick of what the I'm also not that but I knew I had a bone up for that and I know we had to talk about it because

golf different golf fans are different right it's a sport and this is why I think it was so readily available for viewers yesterday right it's a sport, and this is why I think it was so readily available for viewers yesterday, all right? It's a sport that the viewer is still playing. The viewer may have played that course, not specifically Augusta, that's a hard one to get into, but when you talk about the other golf tournaments, they may have played that course.

They may have a tangible feel for what this is, what they're seeing right in front of them. I mean, we can't say that. You never kick the 30-yard field goal in the Super Bowl, but you've swung that club at 11 at your local golf course before. So people love that too, but you're right. I mean, this was, not everybody was prepared

for the conversations, but you're prepared for that emotion. And that's why- Do you guys have, does the group have any nominee for what has to happen in golf outside of Tiger doing something that closes a chapter for you the way that this does? Like, give me somebody in golf that you're looking for something from that would- Well, no, let's not. I mean, this had all the elements that you would want because of the Liv versus PGA battle.

So that's something. You could not be a golf fan or know nothing about golf, but you'd be like, these two guys are sworn enemies, you know, DeChambeau and McElroy. They're not talking. That's so that it serves sports fans who want to view sports in that way as well. I mean, that's what's great about it.

And then you have another guy, Justin Rose is on the course and he's everybody's good guy. And then you have Rory and then you have Rory's family. I mean, so it works on all the notes of it. So I that's why I could be in this moment last night and feel almost like I'm ready to start crying watching Rory McIlroy. And I know other fans had that feeling and I wasn't sure you were you were expecting it when it happened. That's why live sports is still the best thing out there Last time you were on with us. It was in our history the single worst backdrop and hair situation We've ever had you see

Before I was on air now you gave me a 10-minute notice and now I don't know what do I had behind me here? What is this? It's a lot of children's stuff You are you are so tell me that you're going to do something after around the horn in the parenting space. You're not gonna do that. Yes, you know this about me. So I Spend my weekends much like Stu now traveling the world And watching our young people play sports and that is an incredible thing You know a little bit about my sports history Dan, right? Bring it up. You want to do it? Go ahead when I was 23 years old, you heard stories about

pardon the turnover, the basketball team we had, and how I would attack referees verbally in games. Yes, I don't know if they, do they, have we told that story here? We've told everybody here that you were, you were an out of control menace as a young early 20s person that isn't the person that he is today and you

Would go no I was just high-energy I think but I was Ron Artest in a lot of ways, okay? And our dearest friends Matt Keller and Shadid Shazouki. Wait Tony why are you like Tony? What do you want our test? That's I mean, that's a grading scale that goes really high. What do you imagine reality? Let's let's examine this for a second as reality wants to tell the story or is willing to tell the story. Realli was bad to referees and I told him he needed to stop being bad to referees. What do you imagine him saying he was Ron Artest looked like? I imagine there was more than a few times where there was a bad foul call and Tony and the ref were nose to nose. That's what I think of.

He mutes the ref. You're muted. Yeah, the ref gives a T and then I give a mute button under the, no, no, no, no, no, no, my friend. I was a big believer in this exchange. That's not your call. That's not your call. That's also true. It's his call. It's his call over there. There was always another referee that had a better view of it that that so I was a big believer in that I And then after I had done that for 10 consecutive games and got on everybody's last nerve With just the energy and the you know all that I did have a fluke incidence that changed my life, right? all that, I did have a fluke incidence that changed my life, right? This is a baseline that has about one foot worth of space before you're at a wall. You can't move on the baseline.

And I'm trying to inbound a ball and the referee's on the baseline with me and I whip a pass and it clips the whistle in the referee's mouth. Now this starts gushing blood like it was all faithful. It's ridiculous. And this young referee had to go to the hospital from a pass that I throw and this was it, this was it. That changed everything for me. Went to the hospital with them. It was, you know, maybe, maybe nothing.

It was a chip to it. There really wasn't anything. You held his hand with guilt, remorse, sweat, compassion. Absolutely. So I, I had that come to God moment right there. Like I was having fun. I was playing, I was enjoying the give and take with referees. They were not enjoying it as much. And then a fluke accident happens. And now you do get this moment where it's just like, did you do that on purpose? Of course not. But here I am. And that changed everything for me. This is a long way to tell you now that I'm? Of course not. But here I am and that changed everything for me.

This is a long way to tell you now that I'm a parent at games, I'm the exact opposite of that. I mean, it's all enjoyment for me. I love it. There's nothing in the world like it. I love talking to the other parents and seeing how they're navigating it. And now it strikes me that this is a conversation

that I wanna have going forward. I wanna form for the parents of their young athletes as we all watch our kids play and the emotions that come with it because you can ask any parent and it's more stressful for them. I love these shots at the Olympics where they are now tracking the beats per minute of the parents watching their child compete in their event. That's an amazing thing. I love that. I'm gonna do a show on this.

I'm gonna have a space for this. And I do think I have a core belief here. I was telling my daughter this yesterday when we came back from a game, parents at games, you're gonna be stressed. You're gonna want your kids to succeed. You're gonna be nervous. You're going to want your kids to succeed. You're going to be nervous. You're going to be all these things. The real threat here that I want to underline for parents is it's not that game.

That's the thing. You're going to forget that game. You're going to forget who won or lost your child. It's definitely going to forget that game and who won or lost. It's that 90 minute car ride to and from wherever you're going for that game that's when parenting happens that's when the connection with your child happened so I want to have those conversations with parents because that that ride to the game that ride from the game that's

what you remember those moments yet give you support for that I'm at that. It's small it's your show it's exactly what will get you points on around the Horn. Just do something syrupy and schmaltzy that America can just eat up. It's just all sugar. And by the way, Tony, I mean, I get it.

Watching the kids play, it's more of a cathartic experience. It reminds you of when your dad, your parents, would watch you play and all that good stuff. But deep down inside, when you know that ref shouldn't have made that call, it was the other ref's call, and then he made that call. Or how about when it is your call and the other guy calls it, it's your call. How are you not calling it?

It's that guy calling it from back there from half court. I record these games on my phone and I send them to the other parents who aren't there. That's my focus. I want to make sure those parents feel the love of the game of their child playing. So that's where my focus is. But my daughter has a nickname on the team. She's the honey badger. Just stop. It's not the honey badger. I'm telling him to stop. It's that every time you say that something that is a great point that is sweet. He gives you points for it and it just it feels like pandering. Oh my gosh. She's 380,000 photos on my phone right now. I think. You send the videos to the parents that can't make it? I have no fewer than 90,000 favorites

because you really got to pare that down. And then I have no fewer than 70,000 videos on my phone. And I send them to the parents that aren't there. Or we, you know, like you said, long story short, you know, I think there's, there needs to be a more open forum and or a TV show where parents learn how to parent and talk about, I'm not teaching them how to parent, but we talk about how to live life with our young athletes to the best of all of our abilities.

Because there will be those dark angels on your head when you want to yell at a referee that it's not their call I'm not give me a number of titles or ideas that you have in a Google Doc somewhere because you finally I'm doing this now, you know, I'm thinking about there's 14 show ideas for sure You know, the first time you can just throw out I get that But but children children books ideas, you know this about me too, see? This is not an interview at this point. I mean, it's just like, I have a series that I wanna make that's called Tony Belloni Macaroni.

My hair is literally macaroni, it's Fusilli. But it's about navigating all the ways of life. It's these stories that have happened in my life. The girl that won the New York City Marathon going out to brunch with Rydeholm, one of his famous brunches. And at this moment, it's the weekend of the New York City Marathon,

and they're blocking the road, and I can't get to this famed brunch with our friend. And I have to hop over the fence over the little gate they have. And while I'm doing this, this then I pull my hamstring I mean, this is an absurd thing This is a reality thing and who comes out and helps me in that moment But my daughter and then she winds up crossing the finish line before everything else. I just gave you I'm out of I just gave you

The whole story. Maybe I should have held on. Yeah, you should have held no no you can't give him points for giving away his Yeah, look I love I love I love the idea learn from the best No, no, you can't give him points for giving away his children. Give them points for anything. Look, I love the idea of writing to children. I'm going to be doing that too. So maybe, but this is, I think there's an underserved part of sports media right now where we're reaching the community of people, right? And I think there's more places to do that now. It's on your own website, on your own podcast,

on your own YouTube. Why aren't we doing Around the Horn with normal fans? Why aren't I doing Judge Judy but for sports debate? And we have normal fans, and I'll even wear the old English judge wig or something like that. We were having those. I like the emotion of those videos that are on TikTok and YouTube

just as much as I like the TV shows that I watch, you know? So I might dabble in that space, too. But it would be, you know, pointed at the community that we have of sports fans and the people who want to just live in that space too but it would be you know pointed at at the community that we have of sports fans and and the people who want it just live in that sports emotion moment for as long as possible I mean what are we doing here Masters Sunday talking about guys book iron around the horn really talk more about it go big boys I was a big but I love you box you want you to talk more Rory.

That's the story of the day. That's the story of the day is Rory. Or this show you're pitching. You got a role for me? 80-20 my way. I'd have to work on that one. That's good. Yeah. You know, I've been accused by one of our friends here of emotional terrorism. Right. You guys ever watch this show, Relative Race? No.

No, okay. It may be on BYUtv. It's about these people who are finding their family for the first time. They have gone through adoption or foster homes and they have met. It is literally, we can make you cry in 15 seconds. I'm not doing that, Chris. Don't accuse me of that. I go to this and in this show, have you ever watched Love on the Spectrum? Yes. What do you, yes, you have, Dan.

All right, what are you guys doing with your time if you're not watching these shows? Oh my goodness. Zero to cry in 15 seconds. Unbelievable. Madison, George and Connor. So this is to me what I was feeling when I was watching Rory yesterday.

That's it. That's it. All right. The bot wants you to talk, wants you to talk Rory and only Rory. He wants you to give, I know you've given us the Syrupy best stuff that you've got already.

I know that you don't have a lot more than this, but the bot wants more Rory. I will give it to you sir. Well, that shot on 17. Now this is not what I'm in here for golf with. I'm here for the feeling and everything. I'm here for what Rory gives. I'm here for Jim Nance's 10 year retirement tour,

but those three minutes that he took when the mic was off, that was glorious. That was really the best that they can do. Chris, he doesn't have any more Rory is the problem. Like he's giving- He gave us the goods. He gave you, he gave you. Look, I'm-

Alligator tears. I am familiar. This is one of the things that I don't think people understand about television. The confinement of television, make it so that I believe that Tony Reale has spent about 23 years in front of you and you actually haven't seen the range that he has

because his role on that show, and you may have seen it outside of that show and some inside of that show, but the role he has on that show is to set everyone else up. Like it's the whole job and there's a skill to being a point guard that isn't shooting the ball. And so he is getting in in very small places, spaces. But I would say based on this Rory conversation,

he didn't have more. He didn't have, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, he, it was good, it was good that he was in the space where a god plushy you write the poems about what Rory was yesterday I'll listen to you now Dan. I'll give you something on Sunday at the Masters You know when they're cutting in the final round to Xander Shoffley on a long putt that's going in They're gonna give you a random Shoffley on a Masters Sunday. You know that things going in. They're gonna give you a random shawflee on a Master Sunday, you know that thing's going in. I was talking before you came on here, Tone, about the camera work, because yeah,

you can say that they nailed it, but there just isn't another sport that has the time, space, and setting to be able to put the cameraman closer to the emotion than any other human being is, than the caddy is, than the people keeping, like this shot doesn't exist anywhere else in sport. Yeah, that's true too and

and again, I mean the Mike's for everywhere to you know when the Mike cuts out and you know somebody's cursing the background like what did you hear that I want the brought to you that that there there is this is just an incredible shot of the masses of humanity and you're like does he know them? Does he know them? And he was perfect for the role. I'm gonna go get I gotta go get feted for a green jacket. That's a great out. That's an incredible out. Oh guys, gotta go see gotta go see a guy about a green jacket. Yeah, he played it perfectly.

There's a cinema to this. And live TV, you're not guaranteed that. So to get it like that, just give them the Emmy right now. Just beautiful. One of the reasons that it is so majestic though, because like this is so hard to capture around all the cynicism that we have around sports and all the ways that we're ready to pounce on him

with blame about choking. The idea that you could be close enough to see the humanity in his relief, because it's joy, it's joy, but it's also relief. It's like, what that man is doing when he says, this is the greatest moment of my golf life, is you're seeing in that moment a person who is as happy as he

can be and as grateful as he can be and you're capturing the intimacy of that up his nostrils. Right, so where else do you get to do that? Where else do you see somebody's greatest moment captured on video? I mean that's so that's for me again that was got me to the point of tears. I know you guys are jaded or you've covered enough sporting events. Golf is still fresh enough for me. I don't like it in that way that this was just took me over. It just took me over.

Is your wife tired of your crying? I mean, she's very aware of it. I had a moment where Francesca was born and I started crying a little bit early because I thought it was her first cry and it was one of the suction vacuums that may have been used in the process here. Below, yeah, yeah. So yeah, that was a little bit much when you're crying over the noises that the doctors or tools.

Yeah, that doesn't deserve that one. So that one's a little bit too much. But she knew what I was in from the start. I mean, she knew from the start that this is what she was getting. She doesn't do that. She goes the opposite way. She's the strongest person in the world.

So that's why that works. Tony, I'm a new dad. My daughter was born January 1st and I find myself crying. Thank you. I find myself crying a lot more than usual. I've only cried like three times in my life, and I've cried like 14 times a month.

Is there any new advice you can give a dad? Three months, she's starting to turn over now. The problem is she can't turn back. Right now, she gets on her stomach. She can't go the opposite way. Any advice for a new dad? Too landed. Yeah, lead into all of it. Embrace that. Embrace the crying. She can't go the opposite way. Any advice for dad? Yeah, lead it to all of it. Embrace that embrace the crime.

I mean, Mike and I have been through this too. We were talking as our kids were born in near proximity to each other. The sheer number of times you get hit in the balls. I mean, that's going to make you cry too. You got to, you got to walk into that. The number of times your kid will actually hurt you. I was sending Mike photos from my vacation last month. And there's a photo of me actually getting injured on camera. And just know, that's what parenting is. It's being able to smile through the tears of pain

that you're going to have. I believe I've seen a couple videos from you where I believe you're intentionally making the T-ball baseball hit you somewhere near the crotch. Oh yeah, that happened 10 times already so I'm gonna do it one more time on camera. The other thing is you're gonna chase your kids laughter. Absolutely. You're gonna inflict pain on yourself just so they cry. When you coming down here? It's gonna have to be after this next spring break. So there's three spring breaks. I had no idea. One child was off for a week, another child was off for a week. It's gonna have to be after this next spring break. So there's three spring breaks. I had no idea. One child was off for a week. Another child was off for a week. It's going to have to be maybe in two or three more weeks, maybe into May.

I keep getting pushed back. I want to go there and I want to hit the ground running, make some music with Jeremy. I want to... No one's ever said that. Before you guys were making your operas, Dan, you'll remember this. So we had Perez Prado as your highly questionable theme song, right, which we couldn't use because we weren't going to clear Perez Prado. And then we made what highly questionable had afterwards,

which was our knockoff. Bo, that was one of the first original parodies of a song that the Levitard family was writing and I was involved in that. That's what I want to do. I want to go to you guys and make music. Well, hurry up, get down here. Good seeing you friend. Always good. Thank you for calling me and thinking me whenever anybody cries. I'm there. Uh, thank you, sir. Nice seeing you. The Dan Levitard show with Stu gots is sponsored by better help. Life gets busy. Boy, do I know

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