The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: CFB + UFC

Episode Date: October 20, 2023

It's an hour of Shipping Container expertise as we kick things off with Jessica and Lucy's Unnamed College Football Show as they take you through the week that was in College Football including new facial hair, a blue vase, and more. They also preview the biggest games this weekend. Then, Tony chats with MMA Junkie's Danny Segura in another edition of the MMA Hangout where the duo breaks down all things UFC. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. Welcome to the big suite, presented by Giraffe King. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Levitard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there.

That hasn't happened to you guys. I've done it. And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, that face and the habitual liar. Brock Bauer's needs surgery, Shane Beamer broke his foot. Iowa Hawkeye's fans are furious with Lucy. Sam Hartman's shaped his beard. This has been an absolutely bananas week of college football, Lucy.

Where do we begin in all of this? That's a really great question. It's wild that all those things have happened in the same week. I left one of the biggest Pac-12 comebacks of all time early. It's been crazy. Brock Bowers is pretty devastating because he's one of the few players that's not a quarterback that you can make a real Heisman campaign for it. And if the Heisman truly wins the best player in College Whip-Aul, it's hard to say that that isn't Brock Bowers. And so devastating loss for Georgia. Shane Beamer kicked something. We don't know what it was yet.

Why do we think they're being cagey about what Shane Beamer kicked? Because the report was that he kicked something, a an object, broke his foot, and he's really angry about kicking something, which at that point in which you kick something enough to break your foot, you have to be like, I can't be angry anymore.

I need to work on this anger. But he's now mad that his foot's broken, which just adds insult to injury. My guess is like, he had to kick like a helmet or something. Like something that would have done enough. Yeah, enough damage. I've never seen Lord of the Rings. That's a deep, deep, tough story.

For the listeners. So there's a scene Lucy in Lord of the Rings where Vigo Mortensen, who played Aragorn, kicks a helmet into spare because he thinks that the hobbits have been eaten by the orro guy. And in the, in the, like behind the scenes, he, Vigo Mortensen told people that he actually broke his toe when he kicked the helmet.

So when he yells, he was yelling in real pain because his toe hurt so bad. And so every time you watch the Lord of the Rings the two towers, you have to tell someone in that scene, hey, did you know Vigil Marnson actually broke his toe when he kicked that helmet? Thank you so much for your service. Wow.

You're welcome. Thank you. You're welcome. I was thinking maybe like a car tire. Yeah. Because that's embarrassing. It's that. He told me to one won drivers do it all the time, but don't do that. Maybe it was like a Person do we think it was an assistant dude. I'm nervous. He kicks sir Big Spur. I'm nervous That's why they can't say anything. Oh my god

What if he kicks the chicken and they can't say anything about it because he kicked a chicken? And the broken's but his bones are so soft. He got it at the wrong angle and it went beak into the throat. No, broken. We do not support. We don't think he actually did that. Anable abuse. We do not support it.

And we are not making real allegations. We do not think this actually happens. That would be the likeliest culprit. Because what else, why else wouldn't they just tell us? Like he kicked a locker. Yeah. He kicked a helmet. He kicked something. would be the likeliest culprit. Because why else wouldn't they just tell us? Like he kicked a locker. Yeah. He kicked a helmet.

He kicked something. Like you kicked something. We've got the embarrassing part out of the way. If it's really that embarrassing, you can't tell us. You really shouldn't have kicked it. Should we do a reenactment of what happened in the office like 20 minutes ago? Okay, so I was in the kitchen looking at my phone and Lucy was in the studio and the door was open and it was very quiet.

Everyone's in LA. It's very peaceful around here and I go Lucy. Oh my god. Sam Hartman shaved his beard. No. Lucy just screamed no. It was the most like pure raw reaction I've ever had in my life. I wasn't ready. Of all the things she could have said, I was not ready for that. I was not ready to hear that. And honestly, Taylor also yelled no from the hallway. I run was so shocked.

We lost Brock Bauer's this week. Iowa fans are mad at me. The last thing I needed right now was Sam Hartman to shave his beard. If any, bro, don't fix it it Sam. I agree. I agree He has a mustache right now. No no no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no of the week, how do we feel about the fact that Iowa fans are mad at you for simply stating the objective fact that Iowa could finish 11 and 1, they have a really bad offense and a really good defense. And you're not sure if them going 11 and 1 is the best thing in the long term because

of said terrible offense. What do we make of these fans being angry with you? I had more than one person, which feels like a very high number. Tell me yesterday that I had sold my soul. To who? For what? If I had sold my soul, I would have gotten something better in return. Like, I don't know.

Yeah, you sold your soul to get made fun of by Dan for leaving a stand for Dan. Are you real? They're a little dramatic. We're in this weird time right now now where with what happened with the woman at the Chargers game where people are really angry about your fan level. So basically the common complaint I have heard is Lucy you're not a true Iowa fan, you're a fraud.

You go to other games and you wear other school's hats and you should probably rot in jail for that. So I would say that I think we should all just take a deep breath. And all I said was that I was off into this bad, and they are, and that I was defense is very good, and they are, and that I don't really know how I feel about it, and I don't. But if you keep being mean to me, I don't think I'm going to start feeling good about it. Everyone needs to take a deep breath.

I think all of the success that Iowa is feeling this season is getting to people's heads. I understand that you're not used to being, I mean, Iowa's been good over the years. Like, you guys should be okay handling this, but they're not. You guys just need to get used to the fact that your punter is your best player.

You're so good. He's 506 punt yards, and there's ten in one all time when he puns at least eight times Get up get used to it and get over and stopping me to Lucy. They're right there Just like I think the funniest thing about it is like yeah, we know the offense is bad We're just pissing you keep talking about it. It's like Oh, you want me to do I'm not the reason it's bad. Maybe get a bright parents take it up with that Take it up with those guys. It's it's ridiculous. I love you. We'll work for it I'm mad on your behalf

Let's talk about the game of the weekend not the Iowa game and also I will concede not the Notre Dame game Maybe maybe we'll give that second best billing tailors now right? And wearing his coatoline of baseball, Jersey. My favorite thing that Taylor told me this weekend was that after the caroline went over Miami, he went to Franklin Street and spent like just a boatload of money on caroline emerge and I'm like, who among us? That is like how college football campuses get ya. Don't you get it for free?

You played football there. I just like to support them. You like, please take my money. You got a little Mike Ryan and your Taylor. I like it. But no, Washington beating Oregon was the game of the weekend. It was electric. Michael Hennings Jr. what a performance.

Washington's wide receivers are so good. Oregon also, to their credit, like both teams were very good. I hope we see a rematch. No, it was an absolutely awesome game. I think if that game was played in Eugene, I think Oregon would have won. I think Dan landing may have been a little too aggressive in spots that you may not have wanted to be so aggressive,

but I mean, that's like the day and age of college football now. I was so impressed with both teams. I think it was awesome to have this game at 3.30 pm because we That's so far this year we haven't gotten to see a ton of we haven't seen any of Washington All we saw from Oregon was that Colorado game like the Pac-12 is where football is happening right now And it's electric because either of those teams can make a back to the Pac-12 championship They could play again. That's like dream-case scenario

But just have other teams in that conference and like shit. I'd like to see them play in the backflow championship too. Yeah, it's pretty fun. It's really fun. The next six weeks I think I'm gonna be really fun. I don't fault Dan landing for any of his going for it, aggressiveness during the game. I think like if there's something to criticize in for, maybe it's just the play calls, like, I don't know.

I don't think there's anything wrong with being, you know, trying to convert a fourth down when, like, the game was close the whole time, but like, I think it was not incorrect of Oregon to try to like, take those big swings. And the analytics bear out that, like, if you're a team like Oregon that's average, has above average yards per carry, going for it on fourth down, you may have a slightly above 50% chance of converting. And like, this is my very rudimentary understanding of analytics.

So I'm apologies if I'm wrong. But I don't really fall in day and landing. And I think like when you're a player on the team, you probably like that your coach is confident that you can go for it. Like, there's so many times watching college football when you see a team not convert on third down. And you see their offensive players are like begging the coach to just let them have one of us. Not Iowa, but other teams do it. And I think I think that that over time will probably work out in his favor.

But it was a great game and you know three points at the end was was the biggest the only difference and I could have seen it going either way. I think where it gets me because I grew with you 100% is when it is a three-point game and you think about Oregon not going for the field goal on. Before half time. Yeah. Before half time. Fourth and goal. That's kind of the call I'm referring to but I have been. That was the one that Dan Laning also afterwards was like maybe that one I should have just taken the points. I loved the aggressiveness on fourth down the whole day although it wasn't really working in their favor. That was the one call where I was like maybe it's the Iowa and me but I'm just taken the point. I love the aggressiveness on fourth down the whole day, although it wasn't really working in their favor. That was the one call where I was like, maybe it's the Iowa and me, but I'm like, take the point, take the field goal.

I think Dan Linding's a phenomenal coach. I've been saying it all year long. I think that he takes organ to a national championship game. It may not be this year. It may not be next year, but I think he's one of the next guys. He will be in the Kirby Smart Nick Sabin conversation. The second best game of the weekend, not in order that Taylor wrote them on our sheet,

the Notre Dame USC game, because of, I think, the way that this has had Heisman implications, this has had major playoff implications. USC is potentially on the verge of an implosion. Like they're gonna have to really fix some things before they play Utah this weekend, which you will be in attendance at that game. I think the biggest, most hilarious fallout

has been Oklahoma fans joining the fray. I have seen more Oklahoma fans dancing, tap dancing on USC's Grave, and I have seen Notre Dame fans doing it. It is remarkable how much they have still have like all of this angst for Lincoln Riley. Oh yeah, when we went to Texas Oklahoma, I asked the fans I talked to, how do you feel about Lincoln Riley? Like when I say that name, what does it, you know, what do you want to do? And they're like throw up, like what do you mean? And they love Ritminables, They love them so much and he's-

It's Dupes guy. Yeah, and yeah. It's what's Dupes guy, what guy. So rent-vineables, he brings that defensive mindset that Lincoln Riley never had, and they're sitting in this world, and they're like, wow, this is the first time I've gotten to watch a team with a good defense,

and this guy left us in shitty fashion. Yeah, I'm glad they lose. I think it's funny. It doesn't really bother me that Oklahoma's dancing on their graves, especially like, it's so great. I've seen USC fans begging Oklahoma fans to stop spamming their mentions, and I'm like, it'd be really funny

if Oklahoma fans doubled down on this. Put them in a bowl game. Matt Liner tweeted something the other day about like, wow, Oklahoma fans, you're salty. And it had 1,300 replies underneath it of Oklahoma fans, you're salty. And it had 1300 replies underneath it of Oklahoma fans just like on him. And it was hilarious. But yeah, Oklahoma, like the fact that they have a dog

in this fight I think is so funny. There is still a chance that you will make a playoff with Venables before like it Riley makes it, makes a playoff with USC because the thing that I think USC fans are so frustrated about is that you had to watch USC blow the pectile championship last year with your Heisman and quarterback, Caleb Williams. Like Utah was their kryptonite last year. They lost their New Year's six ballgame to Tulane, but now he's coming in and his third

year as a cultural football player, second season with USC, and you have this expectation or at least hope that like they figured something out on defense. And Caleb Williams plus a couple of weapons are going to be enough to get over the hump this year before he probably will leave to go to the NFL. And it does not look good right now. They, Notre Dame is by far the best competition they've played, especially on the defensive side of the ball this season. And they lost by 28 points.

Caleb Williams looked completely just like a normal college football quarterback throwing picks, fumbling the ball. They were just completely lost the entire game offensively. Their defense didn't even have to screw up. It was all on the offense in this game. So tough for Trojan's fans, but on the plus side, like you control your own destiny in the pack 12 now, because it wasn't a pack 12 game, you have all these tests ahead of you. If you win all the games, like you're still good, but the question is like, how do

you see this team winning any of these games? It's one of those things where I know it very well. You cannot win, you know, significant chip. You can win games with just having one side of the ball be infinitely better. But to actually be competitive against good teams, you cannot try it out the best offense in the world and the shittiest defense. It's just not going to work. It's vice versa with Iowa. It's one of those things where Lincoln Riley, you, we said it so many times, I sound like a broken reticure, but it's like, how have you not figured this out by now? Or how have you not hired somebody to figure this out by now?

We know what the problem is, because if you get in a situation where you're playing a team like Notre Dame, that has a great defense, and now your husband winning quarterback is just a regular dude, that's it. You're done, that game is over, you have no shot, you can't be reliant on one guy, unless he, of course, is your punter,

and in that case very important. Huge. Don Lebertard. Well my point about Jimbo Fisher is that and it's Sabin he's been trying to cancel me for saying that Mrs. Met has cake and Bobby Bowden would have said Mrs. Met she has snatched. Stugats. I never pay for a player. Now, Woodpepper is meant to give me lap dance. This is the Don Lebertar show with this two-gats. Okay, the actual like big prime time game that a lot of Miami fans, Lebertar show fans probably were watching. It was in Miami UNC game. Taylor was boots on the ground.

He was at the game. He reported to us live that a test walker did the upside down you in Mike Ryan's section like right in front of his face and B Mike Ryan left in the third quarter. So he's not allowed to be mean to Lucy for leaving the stand for game. Thank you. This was a huge win for Carolina. They own this series against Miami. They have a couple really tough tests I had. George Tech has been a tough team for North Carolina, the best five years.

They're the team that of course upset Miami two weeks ago. And then they also have to play Duke and Clemson who is still unranked. Maybe like we'll have a low in 20s ranking by then because they have to loss us to Duke and Florida state. But where do you put this North Carolina team in the context of everything else going on right now in college football?

When it came to UNC, I was very, I've been judgy and very hesitant up until this point because you have no doubts about Drake May. You have no doubts about that offense, but to see Carolina try to out of the defense that plays well, that actually looks tough and physical. That was something I'm not used to seeing with UNC football and it's pretty much changed my view in the sense of, I think they're competitive in the ACC.

Florida State's going to, I don't know if they're on the regular season, but they have a test with Florida State with Duke, it's, but it's an actual competition. I don't think it's a Carolina getting blown out by 30 type of deal and like last year, I guess, Clemson. Like in Miami credits to them for keeping it competitive in the first half. And then that would done. I don't know where, like where does Miami go from here?

Cause now they have to play Clemson, they stop to play Florida State. They've already got two losses. I think this, like this shows why the Duke's Mayo Bulls, I really go, it's possible. I do not knock the Duke's Mayo Bulls. The Duke's Mayo Bulls great. I don't think my Amy deserves it. Here's the only eight. There's the only ACC bowl game. I can think of pop top in my head. I know the ACC bowl times since Notre Dame

it gets access to some of the ACC bowl games. I Know those users. There's the Gator Bowl. There's the holiday bowl But those ones are usually reserved for like the nine nine and sometimes ten one team So I don't know maybe maybe we're thinking PopTart Bowl. We'll see. There's nothing against PopTart. Notre Dame may play in the PopTart Bowl. Love a good PopTart.

Love, I used to love PopTarts. I don't eat them anymore, but they were once a staple in my diet. Then I got onto uncrustables. Elevated. Elevated. Cheering. Elevated. Cheering.

Elevated. Elevated. Cheering. Elevated. Elevated. Cheering. of the ACC though. One of the unbeaten teams in the ACC Louisville got puttin' our doozy'd. Pit is like, the best of us. Honestly, we should have called this because last week I was like, oh Louisville's good, like I kind of want to see them win more games because they haven't played quite a tough schedule yet, but they did play really, really well against Notre Dame. But then they go to Acro sure stadium, formerly known as Heinz Field. It's raining, it's disgusting,

and you're playing against Pitt, who has finally put in their backup quarterback, who had a solid game in his debut with Pitt. There was all this chatter over the week leading up to this game about this blue vase, Lucy. Can you explain the phenomenon of the blue vase to people and what happened there? I will try my best because I'm still a little confused

but there was a blue vase at the Pitt football facility to people and what happened there? I will try my best because I'm so a little confused. So there was a blue vase at the Pit Football Facility that a reporter said was to put your negative thoughts into. Like right down your negative thoughts and like put them in the blue vase. And then it was like, okay, that's not actually a real thing. It was just a blue vase that was there.

And then post beating, Louisville, Pat and our Newsy walks out with the blue vase and just sets it down because it's his world and we're just living in it. It was so weird. So I think what happened was that like a reporter misunderstood what the context of the vase was and everyone clowned pit for like a day.

And then I guess what the blue vase is is that it's like a motivational tactic that pit uses that came out of a book from like the 1920s. And this is something that they've like used years in the past. And so they brought it out for the Louisville game because they really needed the motivation and it worked. And it worked. And so now like everyone's all in on the blue base. And so it wasn't like a like a complaint box.

That was the misinterpretation. But it is very funny. It's very nutty. It's very. Like they've got this, it's tiny. It's like a tiny little blue base that he tried it out in his post game press conference. We'll we'll put a picture of that in post-taler. But yeah credit credit to pit for upsetting the Cardinals because if you're a Louisville fan like that is winning against Notre Dame at home. One of your biggest home wins in a decade and then losing on the road to this pathetic pit team is maybe pits figured something's out on offense

but it's still such a downer. I've read somewhere, I don't know who to quote for this but Jeff Brahms O and four in the game after Brahming another team. So we should have all seen this coming. You can take Jeff Brahms, Owen, Four in the game after Brahming another team. So we should have all seen this coming. You can take Jeff Brahm out of Purdue, but you cannot take Purdue out of Jeff Brahm. Okay. We should look ahead to this weekend.

We have six minutes left. We were gifted an extra 12 minutes today, so let everyone know how much you like it. Yeah. Please. Because 12 minutes is not long enough to talk about College football. There are 133 FES teams. We get to talk about the group of five. But there's a lot of big games we get, Lucy.

Highest state and Penn State, the big game out of the big 10. This one is going to be very interesting. This is a, Penn State is a team I can't get any sort of read on right now. I genuinely don't know what's going to happen in this game. I'm staying away from betting it. I'm going, no predictions here. Because pin state, their toughest test was against Iowa that you played half a team. I don't necessarily know if that counts. And they struggled against the Iowa

defense in the first half, which is natural. And they're not going to like that. Yeah. Well, you know what? You you you you woke you awoken the beast. All right. I don't know what you guys want from me. Where so they struggled against Iowa's defense. They're not throwing the ball deep. The reason James Franklin got that wild question is because they're not having these big giant plays and they have a great quarterback. I don't understand how good they are in any sort of measuring

sick, because UMass and Illinois and Iowa, I don't think are good litmus tests for how good you are. And also for Ohio State, that Notre Dame game was weird. There were odd circumstances. There are Kyle McCord is looked really bad, then really good. These are two teams that I just don't understand. The only thing I know for sure is Penn State's got a phenomenal defense. Yeah.

Marvin Harrison Jr. It's really good. My advice to Penn State, play all 11 guys on defense. Yeah. They've got a really good defense. I think Ohio State, like they have a lot of injuries. We don't know, we were taping this earlier in the week so we don't know exactly who's gonna be good to play

if Trayvian Henderson is playing or not. Ohio State's like star running back. Their run game has struggled a lot. Penn State's defense has been really good. The concern with Penn State is that they lack explosive plays. They're not taking deep shots, but they haven't really had to do that to beat anyone on their schedule.

So again, I'm with you Lucy. I don't know how to pick this game. I will say Ohio State has won a tougher test. Well, I guess Iowa's defense is really good too. It's really hard to compare these two. That's why it's going to be an exciting game. It's tough because Penn State and Iowa, that game was a lot closer than it felt up until

the second half when Iowa just started turning the ball over every other play. It's very weird because James Franklin is out here throwing shots at Indiana and that tells me something's up. Why are you getting mad at Indiana right now? You got UMass coming up, you could just take this time to be low-key. You're not doing it. Well, that's going to be a very exciting game in the big 10 We have Texas 10 sorry Tennessee and Alabama in the SEC. This is a rematch of you know

We all remember last year was Tennessee Alabama game ended in that field goal absolutely Crazy next statement wants revenge Alabama's a nine point favorite, Lucy. But I've watched a lot of Alabama football this year, and I do have still many concerns about their office. Their defense looks good. Like they're solid, I think. But I'm still really, really concerned

about Jalen Milroy, specifically. The my issue with Alabama's their offensive line. I don't think it's very good. They struggled against Arkansas, but I also have a ton of concerns about Tennessee Tennessee is running the same offense. They ran last year with a quarterback who's not capable of running that offense And receivers that don't also have the speed and the ability to run that offense It's not this is a completely different Tennessee team than they were last year the way that that they got man-hebbled at Florida,

which I know is a weird place to play for them. They're not what they once were. Now, I don't think either of these teams are bad by any means, but this is not what this game was last year. I think Alabama wins. It's in Tuscaloosa. There's a lot of revenge and hatred for this game. And I'm not trusting this Tennessee team right now

just because it's, they need to figure out their identity without Hinden Hooker and they haven't done that. I saw Nick Saban go crazy because in offensive lineman got a pre-snap penalty during the victory formation against Arkansas last weekend. So he's mad. He's not mad. They won, but he's gonna be yelling at a lot of, they had a lot of Arkansas last weekend. So he's mad. He's not.

They won, but he's going to be yelling at a lot of, they had a lot of penalties last weekend. He's going to be yelling at a lot of people. This is kind of feels like a game that Nick Saban comes in and just like, okay, all right, why did we doubt this guy? He's still, he's still got it. He's still got his fastball. We also have the Dylan Gabriel revenge game this weekend

that I think only Jeremy Teschet thinks he's going to be competitive. They are, a UCF is aF is a 19 point underdog. I feel like I would take up one of my end-of-point points. I would, yeah, that's my betting advice for the weekend. Duke and Florida State, Duke is a big underdog. We don't know yet if Riley Leonard is going to play. He didn't play last weekend and NC State, Duke still got it out in one.

I feel good about Florida State, but maybe I would take Duke in the points. I'm I'm taking Duke in the points. When Mike Elko was asked if Riley Leonard could play, he was like his status is, you know, unknown, but he smiled. He smiled. So I don't I don't know what that means. He's really becoming a hell of a football player. I love him. I love him so much. Duke beat the crap out of NC State this weekend. Their back up looked good. Duke's got to solve of NC State this weekend. Their backup looked good. Duke's got a solid defense. Riley Leonard was not.

Riley Leonard is an incredibly important part of this team, but there was a solid surrounding, you know, cast for him. So I think that I'm not picking Duke to win. It's in Tallahassee. That's really tough. But Flores State's got a loss in him. I think Duke is a really solid team.

I have them covering. I want to finish the segment. Miami and Clemson play this weekend. Davos Weenie was asked in press conference about the kneel down Fiasco and Mario Cristobal a couple weeks ago and what he would do basically. And Davos said, hopefully in that situation, someone would just punch me.

Micron will punch him. I think if he continues to say stuff like that. Be careful what you wish for my guy. You can and he will. He will absolutely do it. He got so mad just over this. No, don't do it. Don't do it. Don Lebertard.

Sparks. Stugats. More sparks. This is the Don Lebertar show with a stugat All right welcome into the MMA hangout that guy across from you right there is MMA junkies Danny Segera who's been traveling Spain. He's been an international traveler nomad International nomad Danny was a brother. Oh good man. I'll hear it with my cafecito,

a little bit this peluca, but ready to talk some fights man. I'd love for this card. How is it that the UFC goes in with a certain main and comane and then both guys get injured and then all of a sudden you have a better card than the one that was previously put together. There was already good, but this one is now better. And we're talking about the headliner of the main event,

Islam versus Charles Alvaire for the lightweight title, and then the coming event, it would have been Hamza versus Paulo Kosta. So how is it that we go from one thing to a completely different card, almost overnight? Yeah, it's crazy, man. It's one, the magic of the UFC being able to like, negotiate with these fighters and two, just being kind of like the spirit of MMA, like you don't see, you know, let's

say, canelo was fighting, charlo, you don't see charlo get injured and then all of a sudden, you know, name whoever Benavitas goes, okay, I'll fight them on 10 days notice. That doesn't happen. That doesn't happen. Usually just fights just get scrapped. But in the UFC, there's that culture of fighters taking opportunities, taking chances and just daring to be great. And that's what we're seeing with Volkanowski and Kamaru Usman. And yeah, it's insane. We got an upgrade out of something that would have destroyed a card. We actually got an upgrade here because the fights are fantastic.

Not only did they get more competitive, in my opinion, but the stakes are much higher in both bouts. Let's start with the headliner, the main event, Islam Makashov, who's been just dominating the division at lightweight, was going to fight Olevera, rematch from their fight a couple of years ago to now Alexander Volkhanowski to their rematch a couple of months ago. Right? So now we're looking at Alexander Volkhanowski off of a hand surgery what of months ago, right? So now we're looking at Alexander Volkanozki off of a hand surgery, what, three months ago after his fight with the Ayurvedic Regis. Yeah. He fought in USC 90.

That was July. Yeah, June, July. He shortly after got a hand surgery. So now he's coming off of what, two weeks notice. He was a, a buck 80, I think, when he got called. So you guys got to cut down and first fight since his hand surgery. but again, Volk is a warrior and Volk right now, and I know we've talked about this and many MMA hangouts past, but Volk right now is just trending arrow screaming up to being one of the goats in MMA.

Yeah. If you want to look at a guy that is trying to build legacy in the sport, that's the best example. I mean, he, I'm sure he cares about the money and all that. And I'm sure you know, the you see, you paid him, yeah, took handsomely to take this fight on short notice. But his, that, that just seems like a secondary thing. When you see other fighters, you see them, you know, call up McGregor, you see them call out for boxers, you see like, yeah, they want to build legacy, but their primary thing is making money, which they should at the end of the day is price fighting.

But for Volkanovsky, like, it just almost feels like he's okay with what he's got, anything that comes after that is bonus and he's just out there to be the most badass fighter he can possibly be. And this is obviously, you know, right in line with that. Volkanovsky is just an absolute stud by taking this fight because we knew that this fight was going to happen eventually if both guys kept winning. People wanted it, the UFC wanted it. It felt like a big fight back in February when they first fought. And to take that fight on 10 days notice and potentially put on the line that this may be the last time you ever see the guy because once you're owing to against the guy, you know, good luck getting a third fight.

Dude, I mean, the guys got balls. The guys got balls. There's no way around it. The guy is just daring to be great. Just as his nickname is, um, Vokinovsky is just something else. I mean, props to that guy. And we get to the exesos of the fight in February. I think it was what 284.

Yes. 284. Um, we saw Islam. Do it. Islam 284? Yes, 284. We saw Islam do what Islam does, great wrestling, great ground game, he's got really strong hands, right? Islam is almost a perfect fighter when it comes to this division. And you saw as the fight got further and further along,

Volcanoski start to wear him down, wear him down in that last round. The only thing I remember from that fight is Volcanoski on top of Islam, raining blows and you're like, oh, wait a from that fight is Volcanoski on top of Islam raining blows and you're like, oh, wait a second. I think Volcanoski might win, right? And they obviously give the decision to Islam. But how do you see this fight working out? I feel like it's going to be very similar to the first one. I don't think either guy has changed a ton, right? Like, they are who they are at this point. Yes, they can get

better. Yes, they can strategize. But if you look at the fight, the fight was so competitive that either guy doesn't really want to change much about their strategy because both out of ton of success. Yes, there was a loser and there was a winner. But I don't think if you're Vulcanovsky, you want to change a whole lot because a lot worked enough that maybe 50% are close to it of the MMA population out there as far as fan base thinks you want to change a whole lot because a lot worked enough that maybe 50% or close to it of the MMA population out there as far as fan base thinks you won the fight. So I think it's going to be a very similar fight. I just wonder what Volkanovsky's mentality is now because entering that fight, he had no

chance. And we saw his confidence grow round by round by round. And at the end of the fight, it almost felt like I could have been doing this since the first round Why wasn't I doing it? So I wonder if the added confidence is gonna change a bit the dynamics of the fight and also We got to keep in mind. This is a short notice fight for Volkanovsky So I just wonder what kind of shape he's in especially after that hand surgery So those are the two biggest things I would say but but outside of that, I think we're gonna see a very similar, very competitive.

Obviously we'll get a Volkanovsky trying to keep it on the feet and Issa Makasha trying to drag it to the ground. And Volk has been such a dynamic fight of the last couple of years where he's been letting his hands just fly on people. That fight with the average regas was incredible. That entire card was amazing, but his last couple fights,

Yehir, Islam, which you could make an argument he won that fight later on in the later rounds, and then against Max, BMax. Split his eyebrow open four times wider than I saw Charles' injury from sparring, which I want to get to in a second. But it just looks like he was such a groove

where the hand thing worries me a little bit because is he trusting it enough? This is his first fight since that hand surgery. Has he sparred? Has he really tested that hand enough to make sure that I can, I can let it fly and it'll be okay. That's the one thing that worries me about Volk is he's never, he hasn't tried it yet. Yeah, yeah.

That is definitely an issue. But you wonder, right, if he took the fight, there's got to be a That is, that's definitely an issue. Um, but you wonder, right? If he took the fight, there's got to be a level of confidence that he can do it, right? He could have said no, they, because remember this fight was against Charles Salivaira, but they also had a backup fighter in, in Gamroth, right? He could have put Gamroth in and still have a comment in between Shemaive and Newsman. Still a pretty damn good paper. He like, people would pay for it. Um, so. So I feel like if you took it, it's because he sees a big opportunity to do something. And I feel like on that, and I do have questions, but I feel like his hands should be fine.

He did say after the fight against J. Dalyudia is that the surgery that he was supposed to have was going to be minor. In fact, that's why he was campaigning for this fight to begin with, and not have Charles Suleyvera be in the main event. So I do feel like he should be almost close to 100% as far as the arm goes. But we'll see, man, that's a big question as well. And also, we got to flip it to the other side, like credit to Islam Akashiv defending his title. He has a title to lose. Okanovsky doesn't. He was getting ready for a tall, aggressive, jujitsu, Muay Thai guy. Now he's fighting a short stocky counter striker. I mean, props to Makashif for going, okay, yeah, we'll take anybody to complete different

game plan, which is what makes UFC so great is that the guys are like, you know what? I don't care. Let's do it. It doesn't matter to me. One quick thing on a live era is their validity to what Dana said. Hey, if you call me first, we'll get it taken Doesn't matter to me. One quick thing on a live era is there validity to what Dana said, Hey, if you call me first, we'll get it taken care of the right way. Instead, you did it kind of behind our backs and now you're out of a title fight. Yes. Yeah. You got to let the UFC know that, right? Like, I'm out. That's the first thing you got to do. Because in that way, like the UFC can prep, right? Have an announcement ready. So yeah, over there, oh, hey, look, we got that book and off ski rematch going on. Rather than, okay, what's gonna happen

and then have people, you know, get a little bit confused as to what the main event of UFC 294 is gonna be and all this. So certainly you gotta let the company know, right? Like, if you get sick, right? At where the first thing you do is, like your boss, no, yeah. I'll probably call your doctor, right?

If it's that bad, but then probably call your employer and be like hey look I can't make it rather than go on and announce it to the world now it's a little bit different with independent contractors because that's what fighters are anyways but yeah I think this whole thing could have been handled a lot better because if we saw Volcanowski took this fight with no problem so you know they probably could have had an announcement rolled as announcing that Charles Olivera was going to be out. Let's head to the co main event. Hamza Chimayev, 12 and O, perfect against now Kamaro Usman, whose 20 and three last two losses to Leon Edwards, both for the welterweight title. It feels like people are just feeding older fighters to Hamza. Is that does that

feel the same way to you? Because they don't know. I think this is this toughest test. I mean, if you look at some other young guys like Kevin Holland, who he's fought and some other some other names. This is his toughest test. This is his toughest test. And Usman. Yeah, he's not champion anymore. But I think he's still one of the best in the world. Top five, at least at 170 and 185 will. I'm curious to see how he looks there, but I've seen him in person. Dude's pretty big. So I think he should be all right.

Plus, Hamza has made 170 before. No, I love this fight. This is what a proper number one contender fight looks like. And we're getting it. I'm super hyped. I might be more hyped about this fight. Really? Yeah're getting it. I'm super hyped. I might be more hyped about this fight. Really. Yeah. actual main event. Really. Yeah. Overvoke. Overvoke. Islam too. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. It's

how is that such an enigma, right? Because he's only fought a couple times in the last couple of years when he's fought. He's dominated that that fight is legendary against Gilbert Burns last year. It was an absolute banger. And you look at, come on, Lusman, last couple fights against Leon. Like that, he was winning until the head kick. So basically five rounds into the last 30 seconds. And then Leon kind of dominated him and picked a spots against him in that last welterweight fight.

But moving up to 85, how's that now at 85? Like, it's just electric. It's gonna be huge. Yeah, it's gonna be amazing. I mean, and there's like so many questions surrounding both guys, something that we don't really get a ton of in the main event. And that's probably why maybe I'm a little bit more excited. But if you look at Hamstead, the last time he fought was against Kevin Holland when he missed

the weight by like nine pounds when he was supposed to fight Nate Diaz, where's his mind? That was September of last year. Where's Kamaru Usman after two consecutive defeats and after that he was considered the number one pound for pound guy in the sport. And now moving up a weight class, I mean, there's just so many questions surrounding this matchup that I, I don't know, I just want answers. That's what I write.

All right, we got a minute left prediction time. Let's go, Komein event and then we'll head to the headliner. Komein event, Hams up versus Koma Usman. What do you got? I'm gonna go Hamsat. Okay, by what? And I think he finishes him in the third. Wow, okay, so he finishes him. Yeah. All right, let's go to

the headliner. Islam Makashev Volkanovsky too? I gotta go with Makashev here. I mean, in Abu Dhabi for training camp, everything is stacked for him to win. So I'm gonna go with Makashif. Makashif, you're gonna see Pongville. You can. It's gonna be exciting. Like, both fights are gonna be electric.

If there's one fight that you wanna buy, the entire year has been great for the UFC. Yeah. No but no, but this has been an incredible year for the UFC. Again, 94, 95, 96, all bangers, the entire way through the UFC, killing it as always, as you do, sir, Danny Saguaro from MMA junkie. Thank you, brother, for hanging out and always giving us your time. No, thank you for the invite.