The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Chris Paul

Episode Date: June 21, 2023

Do you get fixated watching hydraulic videos on TikTok? Can you sometimes judge a book by its cover? We cover these questions and more, including Mike's "Top 5 Things That Made Me Feel Old in the Last Week," on today's Big Suey. Chris Paul joins us to promote his new book "Sixty-One: Life Lessons from Papa, On and Off the Court" and discuss the highlights of his life and career, how family keeps him sane, the breadth of his work away from the court, and more. Plus, David Samson and Adnan Virk join us to discuss their Top 5 Father-Child Movies in honor of Father's Day, but unfortunately there's quite a bit of divorce, murder, and genocide. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. Welcome to the big suite, presented by Giraffe King. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Levitard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there.

That hasn't happened to you guys. I've done it. And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, that face and the habitual liar. We're supposed to have Chris Paul here in the next segment. He is selling a book that Billy thinks his timing is very poor on selling right now.

I don't remember saying that. I don't remember him saying that either. Thank you. This is one of those classics, something spun out of control, then it's relayed to a guest, words are put in my mouth. I think Chris said that actually the other day. Chris Cody. That makes sense.

But he's not here. So I guess we just shouldn't address it. It wouldn't be fair to Chris. Stugots is skating by not being here. I'm going to have to sort of crystallize and cube his lifelong criticism of Chris Paul and hand it over and get Chris Paul. That I remember. Comment here.

He's in the Zoom. He's in the Zoom. he's in the zoom. We will get to. Don't let him hear us. Chris Paul in about 15 minutes, I've always admired him at being the very top of excellence when it's hard to get to the top of excellence. But Jessica, we have sort of lost her here

with the end of the panthers and heat craziness. She has succumbed to just disaster following, whether it's a submersive in the bottom of the ocean or I-95 falling apart in Philadelphia. Jessica is just consuming disasters with morbid curiosity. There's a lot going on in the world, Dan, including I was sick for eight days. That was terrible.

Don't get sick, everyone. Be careful. Wash your hands. I'm okay now, Billy, don't worry. This was before I saw you last. Scanner with your U-Cost. Yeah, whoa. Honestly, right now, probably 85 out of 100,

but like two weeks ago, zero out of 100. Dan, are you the one that drinks the oat milk that's here? Yes, oh boy. Oh no. Oh boy. A lot of seed oil's in that, Dan, I hate to tell you. It just seed oil's.

Your oat milk pour 48 of 100. Wow, I find you an alternative. They do put some filler in milks these days. Really? They'll say, yeah. Wow. There's a few brands that are just regular oat milk. I don't like adding sugar in my oat milk

I like drinking things that aren't super sugary some of them they just have a I think if Billy were to do yuka for any other kind of milk I mean I suppose soy and almond and open on the brand least bad no it depends on the brand They're some of them just have additives anyways. I digress the fillies played the i95 have added as anyways, I digress. The Phillies played the I-95 live stream of the reconstruction of the bridge that collapsed recently at a game last night on the jumbo tron, unless I got ball-sacked, which let's be honest. It's happened before. But I just think it's phenomenal that people are so invested in this infrastructure project. This bridge collapsed a week ago because a truck was on fire underneath

and it caused it to collapse and was a major infrastructure disaster but luckily no one was hurt uh... and they were able to rebuild it so fast because it turns out when there are you know things that impede commerce and and easy travel for people that are inconvenience we can actually rebuild things very quickly in this country, which I- It was shocking how quickly it was. I thought it was going to be something.

I wasn't originally reported that it was going to be a problem for Philadelphia for months. Oh my God, this is gonna be, this is a major disaster. I was like, oh, well, we're gonna just gonna dedicate a little bit of resources to something and we're gonna fix it. And I love how many people enjoyed watching this bridge being rebuilt,

because I think there is one thing that people love, that I've noticed, especially on TikTok, which is videos of things being fixed or cleaned. People just love to see that. People love to see houses being built in a fast forward motion. People love to see videos of power washers and the Bissell steam shot, which by the way, as soon as that things back on Amazon, I am buying it

because those videos are crazy. On the opposite end, do you watch the hydraulic press that crushes everything? Oh, I love the hydraulic press. Do you watch the hydraulic press? No, I've not been captivated by this. But the hydraulic press is, for me, it's only good when there's something mushy

that comes out in like the big strings. Who, yeah, the one that has the, they use the press to guys the little holes and it shoots out like confetti, oh, Stan. The things that explode, I'm like, like when they put a ball under them, I'm like, oh, I can't have that. Yeah, string, thread, you don't want to see thread be exploded by hydraulic press. Boring. When Jessica mentions just general apocalyptic things that are happening all over the world.

Because we've been talking about a submersive, but another boat calamity, people flee, a Pakistani people fleeing war, 300 deaths at sea. Like you read things happening in the universe, there's a lot of bad stuff happening. We haven't even talked that much about the climate stuff happening everywhere. We've talked a lot about that. Not enough. Not enough. Well, you should ask your app, like, put it up to the sky and see what it says. The sky? Yeah. We'll give you, like, the air quality index rating. AQI. Oh, don't get me started on that. Dan, I will tell you that you do have an

oat milk in there that's 88 out of 100. I'll point you in that direction. Oh. So you have a good oat milk in there. I want this yuka. I want you to sell and chill on behalf of Yuka is a product. This is perfect for you. What are you laughing about? What are you laughing about, Tony? Him going around just scanning with what do you mean with Tony? Why are you laughing like this? What is so funny to you? We use the word Yuka so liberally. And to me, it means something different. What what it means. Every time you see it. What it means no chip, when? Yeah, what does it mean?

It's just some private data, that's all. Yeah, that's a starch. Yeah, that's a starch. Exactly. You got good, very starchy. Uca sometimes can be very good for the president. I have a huge Uca in my apartment. Really?

Yeah. Well, yeah. We do refer on the, but as we... I'm gonna go, Lehman. As we look everywhere for Lehman symbols and signs that the universe is tearing apart at the seams. How about Harvard Medical School? Old Peaman Harvard Medical School selling body parts. Yeah, how about the people buying the body parts? Because my favorite of this report is confirmation

that sometimes you can judge a book by the cover. Because right now on our video, you can see an image of one of the people that bought organs. Was this the person that purchased Vee Eventmo with the topic line brains with multiple S's? This, I'm being told this is the person that bought organs from Harvard via Venmo with the subject line brains.

Billy, for the audio audience, do you wanna explain what this person looks like? Appears to have five or six horns, right? In a bald head, has tattooed devices made to look like spikes into his head. Well, those are piercings, not tattooed devices, but those are, yeah, those are, he literally, I've never seen those piercings forgive my ignorance.

Spacers in his ears, like Chester from Lincoln Park, he's got multiple lip piercings. Oh, and he tattooed his eyeball to be black and half of his face is like, Oh, is that what he did to go like? Like, scaly. He's got nice eyes eyes does have kind eyes uh... one kind i the other one is tattooed

they say it's true can judge a book he on his right side of his face you just judged chris paul's book though army chris kody sorry yeah chris kody did that as i remember the tattoo on the right side of his face is meant to uh... to recreate skeleton to recreate what what is the tattoo that it looks like reptilian it looks reptilian they are those looks like those look like scales it's it's been confirmed to be reptilian in my headset

that's great billy I don't know for the expert no I pray no please billy yes thank you billy what do you think you use the brains for his own researcher we should add a little legend Lee's in here I think allegedly a lot we would put in a Venmo subject header He used the brains for his own researcher. We should add a little alleged lesion here, I think. Allegedly? The dude put in the Venmo subject header brains. You know I saw the lizard man in person one time.

Oh yeah? Former Celeb Prognosticator. Yeah, he was like a friend of the show. He was on here a couple times, wasn't he? Yeah, it was a great radio bit. He was. Can you, in the audience, I know who the lizard man is, but can you, for the people in the audience, I know who the lizard man is, but can you,

for the people in the audience, it's Donald Sterling. It's Donald Sterling. He, I mean, no, he's my right hand arm man. Yeah, similar to this gentleman, he, you know, wanted to look reptilian

and he had his tongue, I think was split and he could move both sides independently, which is like, I crazy, how do you even learn to do that? I guess once they cut it with a laser, you figure it out.

And then he actually had like, what was the word that you use? He had tattoo devices kind of put in that were like, bumps on his head. Like, and he was tattooed completely like a lizard and he was performing at Halloween Horror Nights when I was waiting in line to go into one of the haunted houses.

I think he swallowed a sword or something. Oh, what? The whole thing? The whole thing. You should put your Yuka app up to him. Yeah. What was what? The whole thing? The whole thing. You should put your Yucca app up to him. Yeah. What was that? Yucca?

Yucca. Yucca is a different thing. Aqua? Mike Ryan. Fap? Do you have a top five list for me of, I've never felt older than calling those tattoo devices that are horns, but I didn't know those were piercings.

I don't, he's got five or six horns in his head that I called tattoo type devices. Do you have a top five list of things that make you feel old so I can move away from how old I feel? I thought you'd never asked, Dan. I put together over the weekend a top five things that made me feel old over the weekend.

O-L-I is I got every single Easter egg in the flash. Every single one. Oh, the Keaton stuff is so great. But then I realized that movie was released in 1989. Yeah, all right, so here's number five. Lotto is getting a personal trainer instead of a second round of plastic surgery. Number four. Lively Rising Baby Grunk. I pretended like I knew what you guys were talking about, but initially I thought that was

all just one name and a soundcloud wrapper. That was a big episode for us. Yes. Youth. Number three, XQC signing a $100 million deal with kick. None of those words are in the Bible. C C signing a one hundred million dollar deal with kick That those words are in the Bible well that person what was that like a twitch youtuber famous youtuber or

It's a famous video game twitcher and he signed an exclusive Hundred million dollar deal with kick. Yeah, that is XQC signing with kick. Yeah Yeah, made me feel old number two NBA young boy warning John Gotti the third sister not to disrespect him Don't disrespect the NBA young boy. I saw NBA young boy on my timeline and I thought they were talking about when from Yamaha But do you not know anything neither do I NBA young boy very popular ages you out yeah I'm not into NBA young boy and number one blue face telling his baby mama he will adopt Christian rocks baby where were you when you heard that news Dan well you can imagine if these things make Mike feel old you can imagine how I fecha de Lizzy y Baby Groan?

¿Vas a suerte? ¡Casi, por favor! ¡Vas a suerte! ¡Es un bebé! ¡Es bueno! ¿Vas a suerte? ¡Lizzy es la fecha de la fecha! ¡Sí! ¡Sí!

¡No me imagino que se interviene! ¿Cómo es eso posible? ¿No te interviene, Lizzy? ¡No! ¡No! Hola, alguien me escucha. Necesito ayuda. Estoy en Barcelona y las me escucha, necesito ayuda. Estoy en Barcelona y las criaturas están por todas partes. A la isluc, a la isluc, te la dais.

Escucheis lo que escuchéis, tapados los ojos. La calle vamos todos a ciedas, pero lo más aterradores no saber en qué confiar. Uy de las personas que os piden que mireis, si queréis seguir convido. Vertbox Barcelona, estreno en Netflix, el 14 de julio, te atreves a ver. Dan Lebatard, Trist and shout,

Stu Gatz, Trist and shout. This is the Dan Lebatard show, with Stu Gatz. He's a 12-time all-star, all NBA first team, seven time all NBA defensive first team, one of the greatest basketball players ever, not just for his size period, one of the great basketball players for this time, even though all we do is rings culture and so he doesn't have enough titles like LeBron and so we somehow disparish and diminish a man

who has been great. Which is bullshit, by the way, and I think Chris can agree with me on that. This whole rings thing and this whole why is he putting out a book now it's absurd. Yes, thank you, Billy, for all your contributions here. I'd like to not hear from you again. 61 is the name of the book, Life Lessons from Papa,

On and Off the Court. Chris, thank you for joining us. I am really a big admirer because I don't feel like you've been, I just don't feel like you've been fairly chronicle that people don't understand how hard it is to be as great as you are, not just at your size, but also at your size because Yokeh is out there. And what the hell is that? Yokeh is damn good. I'll tell you, but damn Billy, you ain't got to take that man. I'm just saying. I'm here trying to defend you.

Dan does nothing but talk us about you. And I'm like, that's my boy Chris. No, listen, I appreciate it, man. Dan, it's hard, man. I didn't play it for a long time, as you know, then play with a lot of really, really good players, a lot of great coaches. And one thing that Doc Rivers just said all the time is that you need luck, too.

You know, and unfortunately, I didn't have a lot of bad luck. Oh, you would have had pretty good luck if Stern simply hadn't vetoed your trade to the Lakers. You would have had all of those champion chips. Who knows, man, that was a crazy time. Who, you know, it's crazy to think about what could have been you know I mean me and cove it got on the phone we had talked but you know everything happens for a reason. What do you regard because I want to get into why you wrote this book what it is that you wanted to do to honor your father why you chose Mike Wil, and I want to get into just how it is you've mastered

the power game with players union and having a relationship with the big hitters like Iger. I want to talk about the breadth of your work away from the court, but what do you regard as like the basketball thing that is wounded you the most, that is just hurt, whether it's a loss or a veto trade or just something that you're going to represent like this business is cold, man. No, it ain't about the business being cold. It's just hard, you know what I mean? And when you're in sports and whatever you in, you want to win.

You know, I don't care who you are, you're trying to win. You hate to lose. And I think for me, it's been tough, you know, the losses, some of the injuries, the time and all that stuff, but you got to get back to it. I sort of talk about that in the book or whatnot, but I think, I mean, you've been in this a long time, longer than I've been playing. So I think the other part that comes to us, the gratitude of being able to still play, you know, you saw a little will retired recently

a couple of days ago, and little will is one of the best players I've been playing our league, and we were the last two people from our draft class. So it's crazy to think, you know, people are gonna always say this and say that, but I'm grateful that I still get to hook. So you won't give the ammunition if I'm not gonna tell you what my greatest heartbreak is.

I don't wanna talk about heartbreak, I wanna talk about I'm grateful. Well, I don't think it's one thing, you know what I'm not gonna tell you what my greatest heartbreak is. I don't wanna talk about heartbreak. I wanna talk about I'm grateful. Well, I don't think it's one thing. You know what I'm saying? I don't care who you are and what you do. Like, see, I could run off a list of, and I hate that this happened. I hate that this happened.

You know what I'm saying? But if you live like that, then how the, I mean, excuse me, talking like I'm talking to my homie. You know what I'm saying? But, like, how do you move forward? You know what I'm saying? Like, how do you move forward if you always don't dwell on something like that? It's interesting you say that right? Because that's the price and the cost of being as great as you are

and getting as close to team maximum sports accomplishment. You you can't be better than you are right Chris? Like you're maximizing you have maximized from your career. You have been every bit as great as you can be. You couldn't be a step greater. Well, shoot, I don't think you didn't ever talk to any athlete and don't think that they believe that they can, you know, and I think that's the thing about why you don't quit, why you don't get, why you keep going. You know, I'm saying you you always trying to be better than you were. And so I know for me, that's the case. I don't never go on the gym and be like, damn, I'm good enough. You know what I'm saying? And I got to believe those who have won championships or won or whatnot that they don't come back to next year saying like, okay, I'm cool, you know. Hey, Chris, it's Mike. I don't think many people in our audience or who follow the NBA regularly know how difficult it is

for you to just get your body ready to play. You've had well-cronical knee injuries. There's people out there that say, you have very little cartilage left. Like, what kind of pain do you go through day-to-day just to play at the level that you've played at? You've done much of your main achievements on the court post this huge injury.

They say I got no cartilage left. That's what they say. I didn't say. I didn't have one knee injury. Yeah, but a lot of wear and tear on that knee. And it's really to give you your flowers because you've overcome a knee injury that you don't make excuses for

and that many people aren't even all that aware of how painful it's all about pain management, isn't it? No, I mean, a lot of stuff sometimes can be excuses. You know, you seeing guys now in this league come back from all types of injuries. So my shoot, I have an isch surgery back in like 2010, something like that. So, I mean, I don't have hand surgeries. I didn't have four hand surgeries since I've been in a league, but You you get back people don't have a lot worse than that. That's a funny athlete mentality right there

No excuses even though there might be some explanations But the book is about hard work. Okay, and forgive me. I said it was lessons from your father It's lessons from your grandfather and how it is to work hard and what it means to work hard So you frame it that way Chris you don't give anyone the ammunition of I'm not making excuses for pain or lessons from your grandfather and how it is to work hard and what it means to work hard. So you frame it that way, Chris, you don't give anyone the ammunition of I'm not making excuses for pain or hand or knees, everybody plays through it, but explain to me the roots of your hard work because you've written this book at least in part because that you're imprinting.

Yeah, my grandfather got murdered when I was in high school, right? When I was 17 and he got murdered by five teenagers. The day before November 14, 2002, I signed my letter of intent to go to Wake Forest and my grandmother died when I was seven from lung cancer. So my grandfather was my best friend. He was my ace. We was together all the time. And so he got murdered the very next day on the 15th.

And then on the 19th was his funeral and so the very next day after his funeral was the first game of my senior year and I score 61 points for every year that my grandfather lived and not knowing at the time that I would be blessed enough to go on and play this long NBA career like at that point. That was the highlight of my life And why did you choose to write about this Imprinting and Michael Wilbond Chosen as the writer to tell this story because you what could have waited till the end of your career You could have done this at any point in your career. Why are you doing it now?

You know, it's funny because I chose Will Bond because I'm known him for a long time. I actually knew Will Bond before I even played at NBA game. And so just knew how well respected he was. And then on the other side, I chose now because when I was in high school right after that happened, someone came down and asked if we wanted to do a movie. And I was like, with my parents, didn't know

if it would mess up college eligibility. And I'm glad we with my parents, didn't know if it would mess up college eligibility. And I'm glad we waited till now, because now I got kids in my own. I got a 14 year old son and a 10 year old daughter. And so I was able to give different perspectives now than I wouldn't have been able to give as a 25 year old kid or whatnot. So it's been dope to learn.

And I opened up and talked about a lot of things that hard times, you know, I'm saying from college different incidences that happen to whatever and I explain them a little bit more in detail What do you regard as the most interesting parts of the book or your journey or what it is? You're trying to share with an audience that you don't have to share it with them. Yeah I think in the book I sort of talk about why I'm wired the way I am, you know, and why I compete the way that I do and I sort of explain like my foundation and my family, you know, that's one thing. Some guys are a lot more open about things. Some guys are a little bit more closed off. I but I think I explained a lot about why I compete the way that I do and who I do it for. And what keeps me sane to tell you the truth. Well, what does? My family, my family. I'm blessed and fortunate. I got my wife. I got my two kids. I got

uncles, aunts, cousins. My parents. I mean, my parents live in North Carolina, living once in Salem. I just finished my 18th season. My parents still make more than half of my games every year. You know, and so I'm sure that's probably not everybody's normal. Well, I wonder how that one goes over, right? Because I've read all your comments, and you are, I mean, always a professional in public.

You don't do the things that end up in headlines that make you or anyone look bad. But you come home whenever it is you get the news of, well, I took Phoenix to the finals a couple years ago and every team I go to wins a lot more when I get there and my gratitude for that is they're shipping me off. They don't want me anymore. And you've said all the right things publicly about, well, business is cold, but I understand this is a business. But how does this one go over with your family?

Yeah, they ain't with it, you know, but they also, they also know the business too, you know, my family, anybody who knows me, they know my family, they know my parents. My parents here in New York on this book tour with me, you know, my parents actually talk to all the income and rookies parents every year, for the last 18 years about what to expect from a parents perspective. But, you know, I'm so blessed to seriously have people that also see the big picture, you know.

And so, you know, sometimes people try to take your kindness for weakness, you figure it out, and you just keep pushing. What does they ain't with it mean, or dang, with it? Listen, and you don't have family and people that ride for you day in and day out, then, you know, saying Billy talked to him, tell him what it means.

I was gonna say, I mean, what kind of question is that? No, I know, I want specifics though, of who's coming to him. I know what it means, but I'm, who's coming to him and saying, I can't believe he's- I know what it means, but if the audience doesn't know it. I can't believe Phoenix said that.

You know what? You were about that. No, you know what? It ain't that. I'm gonna tell you that. You make trades and all this stuff like that. It's a business, man. I didn't literally seen everything that you could see

in this league, right, from trades. And it's not like being traded or whatnot. I think the thing that always messes up any situation is the communication aspect. So, is there any point you learned it, Chris? Where, because you short, you didn't come into the league knowing, okay, it's a business. You expected the employer to value you

or you came in knowing that. Well, nah, I mean, you think about it. I got drafted when I was 19, 20 years old, right? You know, what to expect, which is why I ended up getting involved in the union and why I stayed involved in the union so long is, I mean, I'm a consumer too. I'm a fan.

So once upon a time, I used to be the kid that C stuff come across to be like, man, how did this guy blow $20 million? You know, and then I came into this life and I got a chance to see what can happen and how people try to pull you here and pull you there. So you start to realize that it's tough when you are a kid that gets drafted and this is the highlight of your life.

But now people want you to be the best basketball player that you can possibly be. But they also want you to help this best basketball player that you can possibly be. But they also want you to help this person help that person and that person. So it's just a unique perspective. So was there an age or a time that you learned it? Because if you come in not knowing and then you get on the treadmill and the treadmill is lopsided, you got to be great and it consumes all of you. Got to be great.

Got to get to the top. Everyone's trying to be the great. The greatest. Where do you learn it? all of you gotta be great gotta get to the top everyone's trying to be the great the greatest where do you learn it that like oh that doesn't feel the way that I'd like to have a partnership with my employer in the age of player empowerment when I'm running the players union as well and I'm trying to make deals with these owners. Yeah I don't know if it's just that aspect of it I was more so speaking of it from like players that That's why Vets are important. Right? Like I had PJ Brown when I came into the league who sort of just taught me a little bit

about finance here and there. Right? Vets are important. Team mates are important. Relationships are important. And our league is so different now than it was when I first came into the league. You know, the way guys are involved in other businesses off the court and just the conversations, the camaraderie. I think something that was so big with me, Melo, D. Wade, and Braun, right here. I'm sure y'all the banana boat crew, whatever, right? What made that relationship so special to tell you the truth is because I got my brother, I got my homies that I grew up with that I talked to all the time, but there are some

situations that they just will never understand. I'm sure Dan, you got some friends or whatnot that live sort of a similar lifestyle to you, but other people who don't. But when you explain things to them, it's just different, right? So those relationships are so important for you to have, especially when you're thrust into a lime light that you don't really know anything about. The name of the book is 61, Life Lessons from Papa on and off the court. What would you regard as the greatest challenge

you had as president of the NBA players union? The greatest one. Which one? Man, I don't think you got enough time on this show today for all of that stuff. You know, I mean, we moved the union offices from Harlem to where they are now, went through. I don't know, you almost got to ask me for me to remember.

Well, we'll do it next time when we have more time. I didn't have moving being up there. Yes, well, he's a pain in the ass. That's very, that's actually very relatable. He's going to the very beginning of this because he's, he's explained you do from the beginnings of these guys took over the business. Wait, you were boxing stuff.

Chris, they're not about it. Everything, everything. Chris, thank you. 61 life lessons from Papa on and off the court. We'll do it again in a longer form, sir. I really have admired your pioneering because you have that, that whole crew ended up changing the league. You guys being good at business ended up changing.

I don't know where it is on your list of prides, but ended up changing the amount of power that players have. Not only in that league, but in sports. You know what, Dan? It's crazy. I say this and I go is aside from the power because I know what the conversations be like. They'd be like, should players be able to do this or should they be able to say this or whatnot, but probably the coolest thing from my time at the union is we're only sports league that has

health insurance for retired players. Yeah. See, that's one of the things that he did. And I don't know if I put it at the top of his list because he's got plenty of things to be proud of. Thank you again, Chris, for sharing the time with us, and thank you for writing the book and sharing the wisdoms in it. Appreciate you all. Thank you. Great timing for a book.

Don Lebertard. It's a good Colorado team. They're the defending champ. I'm going to put it in. Go sit in the penalty box. What happened there? Still gots. They're the defending champ she I'm gonna go suddenly apparently back up in there still got there the the the the the the the the the the the the

defending champ she I'm gonna go suddenly back up in there excellent. This is the down lebertar show with a stugat both of these men care deeply care unreasonably about the tapestries of filmmaking and they agree on next to nothing. Because they look at movies and feel movies very differently.

Adnan Burke does so on Cinephile. You can check out his movie podcast and if you just want to get more informed on Major League Baseball, he does an assortment of things all over the place where he's smart on baseball and David Samson. Nothing personal is his podcast. Also, the Levitard and Friends Network. He reviews the movie every day. Let's get right to it. In honor of Father's Day last weekend, we're a couple of days late. We were supposed to show you something yesterday that involved Chris Cody and Greg Cody. We forgot. In honor of Father's Day two, two days late and now we're later still on Father's Day.

We're doing Father's Son, Father Daughter. Are there mother daughter, mother son relationships here? What are we exploring? Is it just Father and Son and Daughter? How are we doing this? Top five movies of all time involving a father and a child. Correct. When it comes to Mother's Day, we can do the mother, but for this one, it's just fathers.

Okay, so you have the first list, that's generally how we do it, because Adnan doesn't like your list and it's more disagreeable generally, and a lot of people would say, not just more controversial, less popular because it's even more discerning than Adnan's list of popular movies

that he gets universal applause for selecting. I'm not saying that. I'm saying the people sometimes say that. Let's start with you, Samson. Number five. Five, the fifth best father child movie of all time. The descendants. That's a movie with George Clooney trying to deal with the fact that his wife is in a coma having suffered an accident discovering that she had had an affair. Shaline Woodley, Aaron Rogers' Urswile girlfriend, is in that movie and the father son, father

daughter relationship with the children as he navigates this impossible to navigate situation makes for a very compelling movie backdrop Hawaii. First off, pretty sure it's been a Shaalee, not shalee, but whatever. That's a small thing. I like the movie, David. I don't think it's as good as Alex Interpain's other work. I much prefer sideways. I think he's made better movies.

George Cleen running around on his flip flops. Definitely has some funny moments. But I mean, as far as father-daughter movies, I could do better. But I don't have a serious issue with it. I do like the movie. I like Alex Interpain's work. I'm okay with the descendants. Does anyone in the shipping container have they seen this movie? I have not seen this movie. No. None of us. Oh wait, I did see it, but it

wasn't memorable. Oh, sorry. I've seen it multiple times. It is, if you want to look at a relationship movie, it is fascinating what families do in crisis? But I'm happy to go to number four, which isn't even better movie. Well, but before you do that, though, Jessica says your top five list of all time in movies, Jessica saying yes, saw it, yawn. Big John. David and I agree on the terribleness of the show,

the idol, so we don't disagree on everything. Oh. Lily Rose Dept, what are we doing? What are we doing? What is the weekend doing? Yeah, the weekend. A lot of new to me. A lot of, yeah, a lot of controversial subject matter. What's Hank Azaria doing? What's Brockmeyer doing in the middle of that? Number four is the great point. I didn't. What is it? You're really nobody wants to see in with Hank Azaria.

Not that bad of a character. Like he's fine. I felt like Hank read that script and maybe had some sort of vacation he wanted to take with his family, some sort of payment on some property. He's got Simpsons money. Are you kidding me? Like, what are you kidding me? So, are you saying that nobody takes any work for money?

They do it for love. No, but David, as serious as got like $50 million the bank to Dan's point, he's past the point of needing a check. There is's past the point of meeting a check There is nobody past the point of needing to check As areas got more than that that's 100 million of the bank that's Money, what are you guys talking about?

As area doesn't have to do anything for money that means you're impugning his taste then Number four, Captain Fantastic. Big O Morton, Sin and Anominated role. It's a movie about a father, no mother, a father and his children and how he raises them off the grid completely. And one of the children decides he wants to get back on the grid. How Captain Fantastic deals with it, the family dynamic in that movie is tremendous. A family I could not relate to in any way, but it brought emotion to me, seeing that a father could in fact do what I could not.

And that is run an entire family often on the field. First off, I think it's pronounced Vigo, not Vigo, so we're old for two known pronunciations of actors and movies that you love. Secondly, I like Vigo Mortensen a lot. I had a lot on cinephile to talk about Captain Fantastic. He was very passionate about it. As you know, David, he was nominated for an Academy Award, but I would have preferred a title like Captain Praptast. I didn't think it was anything special. It was a pretty mediocre movie. Let's

be honest. No, that is not correct. Though I do agree when you Google great movies, it doesn't come up, which is why obviously though. I do agree when you Google great movies it doesn't come up Which is why obviously you don't like it. I'm confused is this list good movies with a father relationship or good father Sun-daughter relationships within a movie are we ranking the relationship or the movie the movie both I'm doing both. I'm doing the best relationship in the best movie That's my top five and you'll see with number three exactly where my head is So by ad nands list if it's just top movies with a father and it could be any movie Well, you'll see you'll see Billy my list gets a little more

Expansed but I don't think it's just fathers though number I think a lot of movies are fathers in the number three parenthood think a lot of movies and fathers in the number three. Parenthood. Movie with Steve Martin, Jason Robards, an amazing cast with one of the great lines ever. Tom Hall's Academy nominated and he was in Amadeus. You've seen him in Animal House. Tom Hall's plays sort of a gambler and the Nair du Wells son in the in the family. And he's in trouble with gamblers and he gets thrown out of a car And the father says to his son who was that and he says those were my friends and he said friends

Friends slow down they even stop that movie has father son relationships from grandfather to father from father to son relationships from grandfather to father, from father to son, multi generational, extremely poignant, extremely emotional. And if you haven't seen parents, and I'm not, I don't mean the TV show, the movie, then you have missed something spectacular, including the opening song at a baseball game by Randy Newman. Pretty sure the excerpt that you just told did not sell the movie, but thankfully a parent is better than your sell job on it. It's a great movie. The scene of Steve Martin when he's just delirious when his son actually catches a fly ball in the late game is absolutely heartwarming, terrific supporting cast and also some salacious moments as well as when Steve Martin discovers a dildo.

Heads eye. Prop comic. It wasn't Steve Martin. He is one of the great prop comics. I can't believe you know that Jessica. Steve Martin is a prop comic. That's old school. Steve Martin's a prop comic. Number two. Number two, field of dreams. The father's son movie. The father's son movie that's the reason why you build it.

The reason why it's done is because of Kevin Costner, because of the relationship with his father. If you do not cry at the end of field of dreams, you do not have the ability to show or have any emotions. When you say, dad, do you wanna have a catch? That is a line that transcends athleticism, a transcends baseball. It is the relationship that you hope to have with your son.

And I can only tell you, I've never turned down a catch with my late father and I never turned down a catch, but my son's never actually asked me to have a catch. Small quibble. I still say that you want to play catch. I wouldn't say want to have a catch, but yeah, water works. Adding to the segment. Adding to the segment. And, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, listen, as baseball guys, Bob is a track man. James Earl Jones, I'm all with you.

I'm feeling the dreams. White to feel the dreams game, a couple years going to Iowa. Incredible. I'm with you. Did you just play on the field? I played catch with Kevin Malar, which was not exactly my dream. I'm out of play catch and my dad, I don't like kids. Wait a minute, Kevin Malar did play catch.

We're Kevin Costard. Billy just called you in my year at NAN subtract man because you're not adding to the segment according to Samson Field of dreams when you mention that Mike Ryan Yand and Jessica burst out laughing at The suggestion that field of dreams is number two there number one David number one is a movie called big fish Number two there. Number one, David. Number one is a movie you could pronounce every name of movies that you don't appreciate. Roger and I don't care. I apologize. At least I don't add the extra.

Sorry for my attention to detail, my accuracy. It's a good one. It's an add-on. All I'm saying is that it is clear to me that big fish is number one. And I hope he's number one on your list because we have to get to your list. But that movie, which the scene of that movie that you should watch is the funeral scene, and I'm not spoiling anything, but to show what it is to live a fantastic life

that sometimes can be out of this world, but not in a science fiction way, just a larger than life character and the father's son relationship with Mary-on Cote Heart. Yes. As the daughter in law. Thank you. The annealed Mary in Cocher, the

Krutipus, the identical Mary in Cocher, the French actress who is an Academy of War winner, you have no issues with. Scott Fampelt, a huge fan of Big Fish as well. I like this directed by Tim Burton. It has its moments, but number one is categorically insane. There's not one person says,

well, the father son, father, Adam was big fish at number one. If it's not one person says, well, the father son, father, daughter, and I'm always big fish at number one. If it's number 10, perhaps, but any film featuring Danny DeVito's bear butt, I can't give a numero uno. There is no movie that actually shows the importance of a father son relationship more than big fish.

The movie does not exist. So your list can be your list, but I'm talking about the relationship of a father and a son. We're gonna do Adnan's list too quickly because of the amount of time your list takes. So let's, before getting any commentary from you whatsoever, let's just go five through one Adnan because we're out of time,

because Samson's a mycog. Number five, Adnan. Face off. No! Okay, I knew it. Yeah. Microhine, I knew it was going to have my back. No. No.

It's a father- son movie, the relationship with this kid and the relationship with this daughter. It's very cool. But I connect with her. Huh? Mike and I are doing this to each other right now. No, no, no. No, no. No, no.

No, no. No, no. Prima versus Prima. Dustin Hoffman, Meryl Streep, all-time movie involving a father, yeah, Roy Balladini. One of the great divorce movies. One of the great divorce movies of all time. Edmunds list rocks. Number three, Abrax Tale.

It's a better-be loved or feared. I would say fear, because fear lasts longer than love. Wow. Number two, cynical, dark number two. Sinner go dark number two. The Royal Tenant Bombs. Levitars backing me up. Wes Anderson, baby. This is a great

spot. Put it on the pole. Ben Stiller. Put it on the pole. Judeo at Levitard show. Does fear last longer than love? Number one. It's unbelievable. Number one.

Life is beautiful. Rebord of an A. Big. And so that's one of the great fun. It is a father'sbirth opening is big. That's one of the great funs. That is a good one. The father son movie, awesome. The holy ghost. You are got to force. You are got to force.

You are got to force. Murder and genocide. That's your view of father son relationship. Thank you, gentlemen. Appreciate your time. Not enough time with a man's list. Because Samson, I mean, I can't believe you're list, Samson. But face off, that's offensive.

Simply offensive. with a nance list. Because Samson, I mean, I can't believe your list, Samson. But face off, that's offensive. Simply offensive murderer.