The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Comfort Shows

Episode Date: October 19, 2023

Joy Taylor joins Dan, Charlotte, and Amin in Los Angeles! The group discusses their comfort shows because Charlotte cannot stop talking about The Great British Bake Off. Then, Dan loves working in L.A., but it leads to a conversation on some of the issues in the city. Plus, Shannon Sharpe's makeup disaster, Caleb Williams and NIL talk, and we hear more of Amin's impressions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. Welcome to the big suite, presented by Giraffe King. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Levitard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries

that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys. I've done it. And now here's the marching man to nowhere, that face and the habitual liar. Got Charlotte Wilder and Amino Hassan here from Oddball and we've got the big star from Speak FS1, longtime friend Joy Taylor is with us here.

And I feel a measure of shame about where I'm going to start here with the two women in our presence. I'm going to start with baking, but it's not my fault. It's not my fault. No, it's not my fault. Charlotte will not shut up. It's not my fault. No, it's not my fault. Charlotte will not shut up. It's Charlotte's fault. Charlotte will not shut up about this British

bake off show that she finds soothing is what she's called it. She says that it's something that she likes to turn on and it just washes over her and makes her feel better about life. Yeah, the theme song, I have like a Pavlovian response to it this time. It by this, I've watched it since maybe like 2017 2018 and I get so Invested I think it's the only reality show where you have some semblance of people not just trying to be famous You have just like old people from Britain being like I'm just so happy to be in the tent and it's like amazing great I'm so happy to watch you in the tent congrats Gary like it's a wonder It's a beautiful thing.

Do you guys have soothing television? Do you have television joy that you will just turn on and just leave it there? Because you don't want to invest in a movie. You maybe don't want to see eight episodes of something starting and stop. So you turn something on that you can watch for 15 minutes and then not think about it.

Oh, I have to be fair, watch the whole hour of the episode, damn it. Yeah, you have to see who wins, you know, in the tent. I've actually, I've not watched that show, but I do find cooking shows of that nature to also be soothing. And I'm not, I cannot bake anything in order I attempt to, unless it's like those little break off cookies, you know,

that I feel like that's cheating. That doesn't count. No, it counts. I'll take it, but that's the extent of my baking. I think for just noise, I would go with a creek type of programming, but I'm very specific about television because I have to watch so much sports that if I do sit down, I'm happy to sit in silence,

like just absolute stone-crypt silence in my home rather than having something on that is like soothing. To me, like the silence is soothing, which, but if I'm gonna watch TV, it's like a very intense scripted show. Creek is clever and it requires your attention, right? But I've seen it. Like I've seen Creek start to finish, I think twice.

So now I can just put it on and I know this episode and I know what happens. Yeah, I do that with family guy. I'll watch family guy because I've seen every episode a million times. So it's just humming at that point. But I also like watching bar rescue. Oh, great program. John Tapper. What a great program. Tapper, yeah. Shout out. All the anytime Zach Harper and I were I were in New York last week and a buddy of ours is talking to us

about something in the business. And he says, you know, the science says that 32% of the time, and me and Zach just start laughing. He's like, what would I say? Like, no, man, that's just something that Taffer says all the time. Like, here's the science. You're on a very busy causeway. Here, 17,000 drivers come by every day.

They're looking for some happy hour. They want to see this sign. That's crazy as you said that. When I was driving over here. 17,000 drivers come by every day. They're looking for some happy hour. They want to see this sign. That's crazy. You said that when I was driving over here this morning, I drove past what seemed to me like a very big building for a restaurant that I hadn't seen before because there's so many restaurants in LA. And I was like, well, that's a cute restaurant. That's a very big building. I wonder how much they have to charge for plates. And I was like, I was like, Oh, Taffer. And it's driving. I building. I wonder how much they have to charge for plates. And I was like, oh, a taffour. And it's driving. It's so embedded in how we look at restaurants

if you watch that show now. That's funny. Who's meaner though, because there is, I don't think of this as soothing. Watching him or Gordon Ramsay berate, a hotel owner or a restaurant owner, but I will be hypnotized by it. I don't know who was mean to others

first on television, but there is something hypnotizing about these people just undressing this poor schlep who volunteered for here. Look at my business here and just eradicate all my dreams. They go in and just like tear apart the books and just like eviscerate. They're like, who made this decision and the guys like, oh my god, I don't have a problem with sometimes they are really mean, but the times that I am like, yeah, that's bullshit, is when they have like the bad food, or like you're serving this to people, like it's, I'm like, yeah, that one gets it. Whoever's responsible for this plate full of flies

that they're about to bring out to people, you gotta get it on them. It's my favorite things when Taffer goes in the kitchen. You can't serve this to people, and then he just tosses everywhere, takes the program, throws it against the wall. When you say bar rescue into my head pops an image of John Taffer in a dark dimly lit kitchen with like stuff strewn everywhere, just like throwing food against the wall. That's the, I mean, it's so performative, but I appreciate the, the, the atrix of it all.

Does Gordon Ramsay do the arm around the shoulder thing? Cause I feel like Taffer's thing is always slap on the button but then after a while, like an arm around the shoulder and the kind of like, you're going through some things. Just cruel. He's just, I don't think he, he uses a softer velvet glove at all to sort of lure you in. I'm the every man.

I'm affable, but wait until I cruelly put a sword right across your cheek and everything you've ever believed in. Antique Roadshow does this for me because, well, I mean, to me, what I feel guilty about this with Antique Roadshow, because to me, I'm just televising privilege. Wait a minute, your family just had in a closet handed down something from 200 years ago. Like other people who are not like you do not have this kind of value in their garage under a rug in a place that they haven't looked at

in 20 years. You know what, I don't like antique roadshow because sometimes I'm watching in like this samurai sword sheath from 1545, $750. And then it's like this cartoon that was Snoopy that was signed by Charles Schultz in 1987, $2 million. I was like, wait a hold on now, man. This thing is from like centuries ago. This is some dumb thing with Woodstock and Snoopy. Who care? Are you questioning the expertise? I don't question the expertise of the people doing it. No, he's questioning the market and the values

that led to that market being what it is. Antiques Roadshow, someone from New England, is a very New England thing. There are New England homes where they just have like oil paintings and you're like, this has to be worth a lot of money. And they're like, I don't know. My fur, I applied for a job.

My antiques roadshow. No. Right when I graduated from college, I was the runner-up for a job as like, whatever social media was in 2011 at that point or like marketing or something. And they sat me down. They were like, we would like to hire you. You're too young and you know nothing. Please get back to us when you know something.

And now here I am. Oh, they're lost. Thanks, Troy. So you failed. Yeah. You've arrived at a place you're... I almost worked at Antique's Roadshow. And since then.

Which somebody says success. That's true. You got far along. Since then you've carefully curated the antique look, right? Like, is your collector of rare books, right? That's the thing. I look like someone who would sell rare books. But now if you went in interview, they'd be like, of course,

they wouldn't even ask how old you are. They're like, no, they can't afford you now. I can make that. That's a slow one. George, George, slow down. Antigrow show now. They rolling in though. I've seen their budget. I believe I can form the argument given that I'm 54 and forgetting names

and making more mistakes than I ever have and that we're on the road that you're presently working for an antique show, given that we're in Hollywood. How have you found joy as someone who moved from Miami to Los Angeles? It's the only place. Los Angeles is the only place I've ever lived outside of Miami. I interned at the LA Times for three or four months. And I've been enjoying walking around the city here after, after we work. And this is a place that I would like to live, but I have, I feel like I'm getting here

as it's collapsing. I feel, I feel like I'm coming to Hollywood at the time that a lot of people are leaving Hollywood and furthermore, as I've been walking around, I have been truly jared by the amount of homelessness that is in the streets that suggests to me that there is something happening here that people need to be paying attention to because it does feel like it bit chaotic.

Yeah, I mean, the homeless's problem is a massive conversation around Los Angeles. It always has been. I mean, Sk homeless is a problem is it's a massive conversation around Los Angeles. It always has been. I mean, Skid Row is one of the most well-known areas in the world where there's a homeless issue. It's across the entire city now, but outside of that, a lot's happened over the past couple of years,

just in the world in general and it shifted the business. So you might be right about that. I mean, even just, I work on the studio a lot pre-COVID, that lot was a zoo, like the amount of people that would be on the lot every day. If you got to park, like if you got to work after 830, you would have to valet your car, not a question. You're valeting the car. There's nowhere to park. There would be people everywhere you'd have to wait in line for lunch. There's barely any people on the lot anymore. Everyone's working from home. You have these hybrid jobs. You don't have to have riders come into the studio. So it's completely different. LA is a very different place

than it was pre-COVID and it's it's shifted now. I don't know that it will ever be quite as busy as it was before. Well, it seems like the industry is being shaken, right? You can't help just driving around notice, right? I'm learning things as I'm just looking at billboards because entertainment is so ever present. I'm learning that we're in the last season of billions. I did not know that because I'm...

I learned it from a billboard. I, yeah, I mean, just the billboards are ever... The amount of money being spent, the energy of creativity that is here is something that you, you feel, but I do feel like it's vastly less vibrant than it used to be. I don't know. We're also on a strike. So that the writers have been striking for a very long time.

And now the actors are still striking. So all of the things that would normally be happening, the premieres, the events, the promotional events for all these shows. I am experiencing this from not as somebody who adores well written television shows. I'm like, who, where is the show for? I didn't see anything about the show because nobody's doing any promotion. So they'll have these incredible shows that are coming out that I don't even know where happening because, and I find out through billboards.

That was the first thing I noticed when I moved here though. Same. I was like, you got to like Ohio, billboards for the last season of billions in Toledo. Like it's very much an LA thing. The LA thing that about the billboards is the four year consideration. My consideration. And then I realized, oh no, they're talking to the voters. They're not talking to you.

They're not talking to the people that I actually enjoy this show. I wanted to wait till we got an expert here to talk about this because it's something I've been wanting to talk about for a couple of days and you worked with Shannon Sharp and I just want to explore what his makeup artist did to him on first take earlier this week where he looks, he looks like one of the vampires in what we do in the shadows, the vampire. The funniest, I can say this, right? The funniest vampire comedy of all time. I could not believe what that poor, and he defended the poor makeup artists who must be

horrified because Shannon Sharp was trending just because his makeup was so bad. Yeah. Makeup in this town is a very big thing. And for men, obviously, as everyone is now learned, like you can really have a bad day in your career if somebody messes that up. I am extremely serious about that one because I am a black woman and I very rarely work with makeup and particularly hair stylists that are just prepared for me when I walk in the door.

So it is a very serious thing. We're joking about the vanity of all this, but every business has things that people think are a lot or frivolous, and then when you're in television, it's amplified, obviously. But it's a technical part of the job. You have to wear makeup even as men. At any time, a new, someone who's like an it's a technical part of the job. Like you have to wear makeup even as men. When at any time, I knew someone who, like an athlete or someone has come in to do the show, particularly on those sets, as you know, it's very like, I don't wanna know. I don't wanna know.

And I always make it a point to try and kind of gently move them into it. Like, no, no, no, no, it's not makeup. Like I say it, and it is a rule for, I'm like, don't say makeup. Do not say makeup. It is anti-shine, okay? Don't say the word makeup. All the producers know, don't not makeup. Like, I say it and it is a rule for, I'm like, don't say makeup. Not say makeup. It is anti-shine. Okay?

Don't say the word makeup. All the producers know, don't say makeup. It's anti-shine. You have to use anti-shine. Otherwise, we are not going to be able to focus on what you're saying, like what happens because we're so focused on the fact that your forehead is a mirror or something like that happens. So, I'm very sympathetic because I understand.

He did look like a vampire. We go in there, man. We go ahead. I had been there. It is, and it's so distracting to have to do your job because you know that you're sitting there like, it's like someone is food in their teeth. Yeah. Yes. I looked in the mirror and I saw, I saw someone who wasn't me. And I was like, what happened here? Like, did you not have my palette or what's happening? Me trying to be a bridesmaid one time. Oh my God, I can't even imagine, right? But it was again, it was what Joyce said is there typically is going to be someone

who doesn't know what they're doing. I don't want to talk about it, but I have been a bright man. Let's leave it at that. Don Lebertard! I am mortified to say that it wasn't but like 10 years ago that I didn't even realize that I went one time to Ron McGill Zoo wearing accidentally my mother's shirt. Still gots not realizing that I had buttoned it. That's impossible. It's not impossible. It was one of the most airheaded things. It seems ridiculous. For everybody involved,

I was much leaner at the time. I don't want to make my mother. That's impossible. 280. That's also impossible. This is the Don Lebertar show with the Stugats. This is the Don Lebertar show with this two gods. Comedians, Brad Williams is going to join us here in a little bit at the end of this era of player empowerment. You now have in college where a lot of players are being paid. The reports that Caleb Williams at USC is requesting or as representatives are requesting a partial stake in ownership of any team that he joins Aaron Rogers is said to have asked for that with the jets and the owners laugh and

said what are you kidding me we collectively bargain these things and one of the things we'll never bargain for is that you guys have that kind of power over ownership but as this is happening the senator from west ferns jenia joe mankan is saying and this is an, the Senator from West Virginia, Joe Mankin is saying, and this is an oil guy, and he lives on his boat, he is saying publicly that no one wants to root for freshmen and freshmen and sophomores who are multi-millionaires. And polling has shown over the years that people who are watching college sports don't actually want the athletes to be paid. That has changed some over the years, but it's not surprising that a person in position of power would say something like that. But what's happening there and how much do you imagine all of this is going to change over the next 10 years because already in the NBA you've seen with Damienian lila and others what happened with the net you're seeing that authority and

power doesn't like it so much when the employees have too much power uh... rich powerful men pushing back on having to give up some margins when have we ever heard this before literally never happened uh... i don, I find it all to be very laughable. I don't think I've had a non-sarcastic conversation about NIL since it was introduced, because that's what it is. And the fear mongering of giving away power

and how it will affect people who have absolutely no proximity to this situation whatsoever, like college football fans, and making them feel as if somehow their experience will be less because a student athlete is getting $20,000 from a hamburger restaurant is somehow then going to make their team worse or the product suffer is an anti-intellectual conversation, which I try to avoid at all costs, desperation. What I will say is this,

change is very uncomfortable for all of us. It's extremely uncomfortable for powerful people who have been able to lean into luxury and control for their perpetuity of their existence. I don't generally ask senators for their opinions about college football. I say that with the full awareness that most people out there do not care about my opinion as a woman on football.

So that's fine. We mutually have this experience. I don't care what you think. You don't care what I think and we can continue on living our lives. The reality is the product is better because of NIL. College football is more interesting. It has more parody

with NIL. We are already seeing this. The same team has been winning for the past couple years because I don't know if you have recently looked at the size of the players that play for Georgia, but they're bigger than the rest of the players that play for Georgia, but they're bigger than the rest of us and they're bigger than the other college football

players that play in college football. That has a lot to do with the fact that they have a great staff and recruiting and Georgia was always a team that got great recruits. You have a variety of different teams that can compete now. TCU was in the national championship last year. That's unheard of. We know what teams are gonna be in the national championship every single year with College Football.

So this will change. The change will be uncomfortable for people who have had the control and power. And then eventually 20 years from now, this will be the norm and everything will be fine. And I have a feeling it's a sneaky suspicion. Don't quote me on it. But I think they will still be college for Paul in 20 years.

And that's my point. Like, joy, aren't they allying? Like he says these things, but it's not like Saturday comes and he's like not watching that, you know, put on, let me put on college volleyball because that has been so. My players get NIL too. So I guess you're not watching any college sports.

So, but do how much energy should we give to even countering these arguments when they aren't really good faith arguments? If there were, if people were leaving in droves and I'm not gonna support this, these kids are making more money than I am, then regardless of whether they're misguided or not, I think there's

a conversation needs to be had in order to protect the sanctity, not the sanctity, but like the numbers. But they're not going anywhere. These people are complaining or going in. It's like growing. It's a monster sport that keeps getting bigger. There's nothing to deter it. Our sports are going to continue to grow because sports and news are the only thing that we

watch live as humans anymore. And the Oscars. Yeah. You'll love you. You can miss it now. It's, it's, again, I really do not, I try to avoid having anti-intellectual conversations, but for the sake of this, I'll do the counter. One, sports are only growing.

All of the statistics and numbers point to that and they will continue to grow because that's all we watch that is live. The other part of this, and it's why I think words are so important. When we say this, we say kids, right? Kids are making more money than me. First of all, they are all adults. All of them are adults. They're young adults, but they are adults nonetheless. If an 18-year-old

person, not kid person, was a world-renowned pianist and they made $10 million every time they showed up and played the piano at a show, whilst in college, there would not be, there would not be senators out here saying, I will not watch this performance because they make $10 million. It wouldn't even cross our mind, but because the system has been created so that they would not make money for what they perform as a sport, it has been programmed into their minds and other people's minds that they should never make money. Where you have actors, you have musicians, you have artists, you have any number of other skilled professions or entertainment spaces where they make millions

of millions of dollars and no one has a problem with it. Now they might think they're making too much money, but they don't want to change laws in order to keep these young adults from making money. So the other part of it that I would push back on is this is not a kid. Well, my 18 year old kid, your 18 year old kid did not spend hours of his high school life in a gym training, working with a personal trainer, eating right, doing stretches, not going to parties, not out here doing dumb shit, working for a scholarship, keeping their grades up so that they could become student athletes, where they then go to college and then have to perform with their bodies, which by the way, they also keep finely tuned in college and go perform in front of hundreds

of thousands of people. Your little snot knows child did not do that. So when you say this is a kid, it's not a kid. This is a borderline professional athlete that is playing a sport at a high level of the one percenters of one percenters in the world. Your little bony kid is not that. So there's a reason why nobody wants to give him an IEL deal because he sucks at everything. So you're mad at the wrong person or they're just not talented

what they know to be talented at yet. Not begging on your kid. I'm just saying that child is- You're begging on this. I'm not going to be on this. I'm begging on your kid. You're going to be doing NFTs. Sure, I'm going to be great.

And I love that for them. And they're not going to make a lot about how much money they can make on NFTs or swapping sneakers either. My point is this is not a kid. This is an athlete who put time and energy into making it to the next level where someone would give them money

to come to this college and play a sport. So when you say a kid, this is not a kid. This is not a kid. I do think that people who have these, as you say, anti-intellectual arguments are not actually trying to argue about what's happening. They don't care if, like, if a kid gets a truck, I saw some senator was mad about like,

oh, Lindsey Graham was like, oh, these kids are getting pick up trucks. And it's like, oh, is that, are you gonna feel differently when they catch a ball in the end zone? No, what they're doing, they're using this system of change, as you're saying, something that is know, catch a ball in the end zone. No, what they're doing, they're using this system of change, as you're saying, something that is changing, and taking a hard stand against it to prove

that they are people who do not like change, and they will keep America as it has always been, and follow me, and our kids will not drive pickup trucks, nor will they own them. It's like, what are we, it's such a, it's just a brand, they're using it to build their brand. Nobody's giving your kid a pickup truck. Cause your kid sucks.

So, he's bony. He's bony. And he's got the snot thing above his lip. That's why your kid is not getting a pickup truck. But she's not going after you personally. It's not your kid personally. I'm not saying you're a kid as a bony kid. I'm just saying, if you are angry,

if you have a visceral reaction to a young person who has put that much time and effort into something that has provided them an opportunity to go to college for free better their life, which is what they're supposed to be doing, and is being paid, but not for their services, by the way, for the profile that they built. No one's paying them to play the sport. That's the other part that people don't understand the process of NIL. No one is paying them the way a professional is being paid. And by the way, all these college students are not getting NIL deals.

There are plenty of student athletes who do not have NIL deals, who do not have big NIL deals. Don't confuse Caleb Williams with the third string running back at some school. It's not everyone's not making money. So they're actually not professionals. Why is it you don't point out, ask, uh, joy, hey, what impression is that? Anytime I do a voice joy is a, what impression is that supposed to be? I didn't start making fun of your voices until you gave us the thousandth one. If she does this seven or eight more times, I will indeed make fun of all her voices. She's only done a couple so far, though.

She showed somewhat of a restraint. What I don't get about this conversation is I don't understand why it is you would derive any kind of joy from keeping someone else broke. That's America. That's America, Jack. We're all like, that's like fun. That's like our fundamental founding principle. I don't want that way to make it.

We get to have it. That doesn't, it doesn't. It says in God, we trust on my dollar. It does not say I like keeping kids broke. Oh God, are we talking about? Are we talking about the God that doesn't like abortions? Or are we talking about the God that wants everyone to be loved? Like there's many different, many different God variations.

Only one guys can vote. Cool. Yeah, like that God, there's different, there's different deities here that we're, we're worshiping. I hear the question. I just don't, I don't take the question for face value, I guess. So if I really thought this person was being genuine about their concern.

You're just saying it's a disguise for my racism. It's a disguise for not wanting to give you a quality. It's a rationalized camouflage to wear. Well, here's the irony of the conversation for me with NIL. Why do people go to college? Why do people go to college? Why do people go to university? Set themselves up for life. To prepare themselves for the next step for education, to learn how to be functioning

adults in society, to have a skill, right? So why, if that's the case, and I'm certainly not hearing these professors talking about how they don't believe in higher education. I feel like another voice has come. I feel like another voice has come. Yeah. I feel like another voice has come. I feel like another voice has come.

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If you actually believe in higher education, if you believe in the process of scholarships, if you believe in people going to college to advance their lives, why would you have a problem with that? She said money like John Taffer. Money. Money. Lots of money. Don't make any more impersonations, I mean.