The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Complicated Legacy

Episode Date: April 16, 2024

How did the Knicks turn actors from The Sopranos into bad actors? Would Mero pee on Pat Riley's gravestone? Then, the crew roasts Dan for how we handled O.J.'s passing on the day it happened, Greg goes after "Heat bulls*** culture bluster bulls***" and David Samson, Billy finally gives us a Marlins update, and the Panthers only win title games with both of them in the building. Plus, Ron Magill is here as we discuss his first pitch at the Marlins game, the fellow inductees into the Hot Dog hall of fame, and a 1-on-1 on-campus championship. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not gonna apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys?

I've done it. And now here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar. I could do, I feel like, a half hour, and I couldn't, so don't please make me do it, on the acting in that clip. Why, bring it up. That's Sopranos, because I was just like, I feel like I could do an hour,

and Dan's gonna be like, go ahead, do an hour. Well, you've been, I've seen you. What's funny about you is that you're great when no expectation of acting is expected of you, but the moment anyone asks you to act, you become incredibly self-conscious and can't spit a syllable without stumbling over your feet. You're a truly terrible actor.

Right, I'm more of an improv guy. But my point is that we saw James Gandolfini and, what's the? Edie Falco. Edie Falco? They are great actors We saw them many times in Sopranos act and in this clip Is it were they just not were they not buying their roles? They were trying it was it was mailed in right? Was that just me or was that terror that was the worst acting if those are audition reels? They would never have gotten the roles I love the fact that they broke the fourth wall at the end just looking straight at the camera like LeBron

Do you think they were paid for that? Yes No, I don't I don't I don't they did it for free. I think that they all wanted look This is a slam dunk what you paid for look I will tell you Because you guys are seeing I think everyone is seeing what is happening all around the podcast hustle. It is hard to break through because everything is fragmented. Pablo is doing something that is hard to pull off, which is hustling for artifacts.

This is going to be the gossip of the way the oral history is told on where the Knicks failed the last 15 years to get to this moment where they're celebrating, we got Jalen Brunson, but they had the prime of Lebron. It was done. You couldn't screw this up. You couldn't screw it up like everyone. He's doing it near Bristol, Connecticut, because clearly he's going to New York. Everyone had it done to New York, and they screwed it up, and Stugats was screaming as it was happening. What happened with Donnie Walsh? He had fallen down recently, right?

So it's not, Stugats was infuriated because he's like, we're recruiting LeBron and somebody's going in there in a wheelchair. Like the head of our- Riley's going in with rings and we're going in with a wheelchair yes but but but from a freak accident of some sort that had happened a few weeks earlier to an old person it it was that person would then in the future be a look I don't I think I have my history right here I think Stu gots was making fun of

Donnie Walsh. I was. Because there was a recent injury that made it so the recruitment of LeBron got messy, and we were all theorizing that the Knicks were screwing up the recruitment pitch, but to see it, to physically see it is another thing entirely.

He underwent neck surgery to remove two bones first two weeks prior to that. He was doing it out of precaution. You have to delay that surgery. I love the idea of James Dolan getting the clip back of the Sopranos and being like, can I get another take? Don't love it. A little too much.

I need less. Little stiff, James. And then James is like, go bleep yourself. The fact that the writing could be so bad that it makes those actors bad is just remarkable to me. And that's all on the Knicks. Whoever they hired is the writers. The whole premise to me is hokey and trite, right?

It would be like the Miami Heat's pitch revolving around, Miami Vice. Culture, yeah. Miami Vice and- CSI Miami. What just happened there? Yeah, something like that. What just happened there? What just happened? You were soaring through the sky and what happened? You were looking for something pop culturally relevant to Miami?

Miami Vice is the equivalent of the Sopranos in New York. I would have thought Godfather just because of Riley. Scarface? That would have been a little more in venom. Forgive me, Greg. I really don't know, just because we grew up around Miami Vice. You are mentioning a television show that's almost at the advent of when television became popular in this country, when there were three channels. So your reference point on what is cool about Miami is literally from 40 years ago.

Well, not 40, but your point is well taken. I think the pop culture reference, I think Miami Vice was as big or bigger nationally. It was a giant television show. Than the Sopranos. Because there were only three channels. Okay. You can always go with the movie version. Jimmy Fox, first episode was 1984, so 40 years ago.

Okay, here's the other thing. Here's the other thing. What was the first thing? Okay why are we assuming that LeBron James was a Sopranos fan? Maybe he hated that show. Well it was the most popular thing in television and basically everyone loved the Sopranos. Well I did. Except him apparently. It was only three years the time he saw that. What if he liked spongebob squarepants and they got spongebob and patch that would have landed there We're doing some real playing the result here. Okay. Yeah, he went to other places won championships everywhere else in the Knicks stung Clearly it was because of those ten minutes. I just told Donnie Wall She needed to delay that surgery after calling him Donnie Nelson. That's right. Nelly. That's correct in hindsight Do you think he would have though?

I mean, damn right he would. Delay the surgery. Maybe they'll do that show on FAN. Once these secret videos get released and get disseminated, because as the playoffs start, this is going to get the Knicks mocked because their management has been very bad for a long time.

But what is funny about their management now, Stugat, says we've been mocking James Dolan for a long time as one of the worst owners anywhere in sports. Great hockey, awful over here. That franchise has been a joke, like a management joke for a long time. They gave the job to Phil Jackson. Phil Jackson goes in and says all it is in the

power i'll just be famous and fall asleep on a bus and we won't be any good i can't do this lazy after dedicate my life to it phil jackson says of lebron's people his posse his posse did diminishes them as they now run the lakers they run the sport they run the agent they run the agent business because the game passed phil jackson by right there and the new york nicks learned with their management management a lot of

people question management i'd question because they're just coming over from the agent relationship business but they bet on relationships to got and they fixed it that the nicks have been a joke and james dolan has been the reason for a long time he handed it to the black dudes and they came in on relationships and they've rebuilt the next

in a way that cares about the next in a way that makes fans get mad at cvn a smith for representing them because they don't think that that form of fandom comes to the core of where the kid marrow roots for the next of where the kid Mero roots for the Knicks from, where he'll go boo Pat Riley's grave. The craziest part about LeBron in this pitch, it's 2010, it's the Sopranos, all the video looks really old. It's 14 years ago that we're talking about, He's still leading his team to the postseason.

They play in a play-in game tonight for the Lakers. Am I wrong? No, you are not wrong. You absolutely booed Pat Riley's grave, his tombstone. Put it on the poll at Levitard Show. Would Knicks fans boo Pat Riley's tombstone? Because I believe they would. But would Stephen A not?

I feel like Stephen A would. I think he respects them too much He'd kick it over. Yeah Wait a minute. Those are two very different things a booing is polite. Yeah over his tombstone Oh, yeah, it's polite. I'm gonna kick you there. They're working out Yeah, booing is polite compared to some things you can do to a gravestone. You can graffiti it you can kick it over Yeah, how many urinate on it. I mean, there's any number of things you want to do. Am I wrong here? I feel like a tombstone would be very difficult to kick over.

No. I don't think it would be. I think it's just the soil underneath. I mean, maybe I'm wrong about this. I don't have any extra... Let's not test this theory. I don't want people going out. Let's talk this out for a second. No foundation on this? Respect the dead. Well, some dead. There are some dead people, if we're going to be honest, you don't have to respect. Right, yeah.

There's a whole list of pieces of shit that died. Like that guy last week, you know who he is? Top five. Who? Oh, OJ, yeah. Talk about a controversial grave. You got Bill's fans applauding his grave while others are booing his grave.

Are Bill's fans doing that? Again with this? A complicated legacy. It's your fault, Dan. That's what we did on the show. All right. Here, let me hear what the critique was, because I have checked out. I really have.

I would say to you that the comment section is the unhappiest place on Earth. So I am not checking in with the feedback that we're getting on whatever it is that we're doing. But it is now coming to my attention, I think, over what you've done the last couple of days to me, is that Stan Van Gundy and Carl Douglas evidently were two pro-OJ on Friday. Pro-J. And so, and so, I'm, let me just make sure that I have this right.

So our show is being framed as we were more pro OJ Simpson than the average show was last week. Not more, we were the only pro OJ Simpson show. With complicated legacy, okay. It took about 15 minutes for us to say anything negative about the man. Okay, I mean. It's just a shame, you know, he's never gonna be able to rest in peace.

Took me sadly. He did it for the... He never found the killer. Yeah, it's a shame. Okay, you know what? What? Here's what's not complicated about the legacy, okay, because this part, like, I don't know. In all the talk of OJ, and I would again urge the audience, if you have not seen it,

is the best documentary I've seen on any subject. What are you laughing about Pilly? Just you know the show. Just having a good day at work man. Who takes the torch? I'm laughing at the show too. I mean how is that helpful? Because the joke is he was the killer but he said he was going to spend the rest of his life searching for the killer but now he passed away and he never found the killer. We never said he was gonna spend the rest of his life searching for the killer, but now he passed away and he never found the killer. We never said he was simply liable.

Here's what's not complicated about the legacy, okay? Because I do feel like this was lost in all the coverage and that documentary covered all of the subject matter better than any I could imagine ever being done. On any subject, it's the best I've ever seen. But the thing that wasn't covered nearly enough I'm not I don't even want to laugh at this because this part's not funny is the grotesque intimacy of killing someone that way of With a knife like with with a like so

That I don't think it can be lost how hard it can be to kill someone that way and That is the legacy the legacy is that that? You were that like whether it can be proven in a civil court or criminal court That's what you were in everything else though famous and interesting in celebrity Everything else pales falls and melts away in the shadow of that I don't know in in the fourth episode, they did show the pictures of the crime scene, and that was really, really harrowing.

It was bad. But it was the trial of the century, and that's what he will be remembered for, and that part's not complicated. I'm sorry if we misrepresented it. Would've been nice if we had that on the day he actually. Yeah, you gotta say the day he does. Little late on the take down.

Yeah, I games, and finally the post season is here. First up, the SoFi NBA Play-In Tournament. For this, the rules are simple. Win to get in. Eight teams battle to earn their playoff spot in a win or go home style tournament that is bound to be full of highlights, excitement, and drama. There's no better way to set the tone for the playoffs than this, so make sure you don't miss the action.

Watch TNT's coverage of the SoFi NBA Play-Inin tournament on April 16th and 19th on TNT, TruTV, and Max. You do this, you love to just get excited about everything. Okay, Junior. Stugats! I had to school you and explain to you. He was gonna take you to Augusta. When I was 17 years old, Alan Sherry and I used to haunt the Bueller Planetarium. This is the Don LeBathar Show with the Stugats! I come from an age as does Greg Cody where a magazine cover that you can hold in your hand in sports could be stylistic art. So when I see Jimmy Butler at the start of these playoffs on the cover of slam magazine in a style meant to conjure Here's the last of the old school. Here's the last of these guys in the Durant Lebron age who's a little bit odder than the rest of them better than we thought

tough mercurial Unusual is to run through your organization being kind of an asshole people love because he wins and he conquers and he's been greater than anyone thought he was. And in the playoffs the last few years, Michael Jordan numbers indisputably while being efficient and carrying a team to heights We did not expect but the words ring hollow to me when Jimmy Butler tells slam magazine Even though this cover is art. It is

beautiful as the last stop on Jimmy Butler's career I Doubt him headed into these playoffs. I am NOT like Stu gots where I'm I'm going to blindly trust I fear that Philadelphia team and I think Joel Embiid is better and younger and even though Jimmy has conquered him Joel Embiid healthy is on any court in the Eastern Conference always the best player. Huge mistake. Playoff Jimmy.

That's all you got? That's all that has to be said. What has Joel Embiid done in the playoffs? Just about nothing. Exactly right. And Jimmy? Yeah. Yeah, I mean look,

I think we're one way or another, there's gonna be a really good parade of gas bags. Either it's gonna be me over and over again or the rest of the crew. Because I fully still believe in what it is that Jimmy Butler's saying here, and that he says, nobody wants to play them in a seven game series.

We know that. And you know what? We know that as well. I don't know why anybody would wanna play the Heat in a seven game series. The great thing there is, I think Billy was actually asking. About to play the heat in the seven game series the great thing there is I think Billy was actually asking

About Joel Embiid and the playoffs know about what Jimmy Butler is done in the post I know what he's done. He's led the finals not once but twice. This is when he turns it on This is Jimmy's season that's exactly right. He starts out. He kind of goes towards the beginning of the season then come March April He really turns it on and then once we get to playoff time, it's another level, and he puts the heat on his back. And guess what, this year he doesn't need to do that, because you get Tyler Hero back, because you have Duncan Robinson there.

Jimmy doesn't need to do all the things that Jimmy has done the past couple of seasons, but he's primed to and needs to if he's ready. This is not a good sign. When we're getting sarcastic, Billy, Heath and Alice is repeating exactly what I said. I don't like what's happening here. Terrible.

I don't understand. It's how I feel as a practice player. If I am not supporting the Heat, it's a problem. When I am supporting the Heat, it's a problem. It's clearly sarcastic. Can't win. Doing the same thing with the Panthers, man. And I willed them to a Stanley Cup final run last season.

I'll have you know. Did you? And I will, furthermore, I willed them to a Stanley Cup final run last season. I'll have you know. Did you? And I will, furthermore, I will say this, and if I've said it once, I've said it a million times. The Florida Panthers do not win a Stanley Cup final game without Billy Gill in the building. It's never happened before. Every Stanley Cup final game that they've won,

I've been in the building for. Won. Since they began their history in 1993. Wow, that can't be a coincidence. Can't be. Yeah, good for you, Billy. Billy, somebody has written in here, I need way more.

I'm sorry. I just said in his headset, haven't you been to all of them too? It sounded like you were speaking aloud, my bad. Totally on me. That's 100% on me. All right. Because I have, what you mentioned.

I too, like Billy, have been an eyewitness to all of the fans. Stanley Cup final wins, yeah. Stanley Cup wins, yeah. Yep. Yep. Continue to. But that goes without saying.

That it couldn't have happened without that. Well, now he said it. He didn't say it. He said it off the air again. He said it off the air again. Greg, why, Greg, Greg, Greg. My apologies, and sir. Why, Greg, Greg.

He apologized, and he said it. Greg, sincerely. How is it, Greg, after all of these years doing this, this is your son, these are your producers, you know these people, how is it after all these years you still don't understand when they're feeding you a joke to say on the air or saying it themselves, there's so often that you're having a conversation

with just them and interrupting the entirety of the show. Yeah, yeah, no, that's a fair question by you. Let me give the audience a the entirety of the show. Yeah, yeah. No, that's a fair question by you. Let me give the audience a little peek behind the curtain. This is what it sounds like when it's in my dad's ear. This is what you should say, something like this. And when I'm on air, I talk like this. So there are different ways that it sounds.

How do you never know when he's producing you? In Greg's defense, he asked us to pinch our noses when we spoke to him in his headset He tried to avoid this yeah, Greg's right you didn't quite whisper What I was saying is the people have spoken and they are writing in I need way more Marlins talk with Billy. Here's what I believe Billy Yeah, what I would like from you right now in this the local hour that I want I've wanted for so long for you to be a voice for Miami sports in this the local hour the most precious of hours For us around here and when the Heat and Panthers get going,

you don't wanna be a part of it so much. No, false it. Okay, well, I'm here. I'm here. No, no, okay, false it. I just want to get every game. I'm here. I'm here.

I just want to get every game. I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, false it, false it. I just did it.

No, false it. Every cup game. And at what? I, he didn't. You were there. he was playing a different game than the rest of us Billy You want me to talk about a no no what I want you to do I can't help physically vomiting Billy. This is what I want you to do. This is what I'm requesting of you This is what I'm telling you What I request from you as an employee of metal arc media who is climbing up the ranks Quest from you as an employee of metal arc media who is climbing up the ranks

Nobody wants all of Jeremy's heat talk and nobody wants all of Roy's Panthers talking And nobody wants all of Mike Ryan's hockey talk No one's gonna want more and no one wants no one wants the entire show's heat culture talk So what I would like for you to do in the next five minutes please is I go to three and no or t t no no we are headed no not the Marlins I don't want you on the Marlins I do not I don't want me on the Marlins Nardi I want you to break down the heat the way you were just breaking them down which is condensing all of our coverage into the five-minute cube that will make everyone detest us right as the playoffs start,

because all you're doing is insincerely channeling what Jeremy and Mike always say this time of year. No, no, that's not what I was, and by the way, before we get to that, you wanna know an atrocity and an issue with salaries? George Soriano makes 10 times what Caitlin Clark is going to make. George Soriano of the Marlins.

Unbelievable. Yesterday, you know, I actually felt bad for Skip. Not that we're talking about the Marlins, we're not gonna talk about the Marlins. I felt bad for Skip when he went out there and there was this whole situation with the Giants where the wrong reliever, did you guys catch this? Did you guys hear about this?

Did you see this? I don't know why I'm Jay Leno. Did you see what happened? So the Giants had the wrong reliever come in. He wanted a right-handed reliever instead of left-handed reliever comes out, then he's out there and Skip is screaming at the umpires, there's a situation, pitch clock,

amount of time they're supposed to warm up, and Skip was legitimately just begging for an automatic ball to be called. Like that was the whole thing. He didn't even want them to make the other pitch, he was like, can we just get a ball? Which is completely irrelevant because it would have struck out on four pitches anyway

so it doesn't matter if it's a ball or a strike. That's where we're at. That's where we're at. We're arguing for automatic balls. Now, what were we talking about, the Heat? The Miami Heat? You were being sarcastic. We were all, all of us, wait a minute.

Billy? Billy? Billy? I was covering the Heat. Billy? Playing games. Look, Billy. Big one.

Let me explain. Seven versus eight. Somebody, I really need to explain this because Billy is always an anarchist and we right now are headed to a two-month period potentially that's gonna ruin his life. Lock it in. You have kids, playoffs, last April was crazy. Our entire spaceship almost flew off into the bay because we're gonna do a lot of stuff over the playoffs if the Heat make a run. It is beneficial to this show for the Heat to make a run.

It is beneficial to the audience of this show for the Heat to fall on its face right out of the box and us to get our show back because they don't want two months of local playoff coverage. I'd say it's detrimental to the audience if the Heat and the Panthers go on another playoff run. Why? I think the audience wants Heat and Knicks though.

So I think the audience roots for the Heat against Philly so that we can see Heat and Knicks. It's fair. Heat Celtics is fun too. Not for the Heat. Short. You mentioned it earlier, and Butler's always saying this,

the whole narrative that nobody wants to face the Miami Heat, why? They have the most playoff wins of anybody in the East over the last four years. Who wouldn't? Okay, but let's not talk about four years ago, let's talk about this season. Okay, what about last season?

Okay, last year. That's still not this season. Okay, that's an outlier, what happened last year. No, it's not, they made it to the finals in the five season. stay with this season grand Yeah, the idea that the Boston Celtics with the season They've had would somehow be afraid of the Miami Heat is laughable to me. It's just laughable Understood but Bill Simmons and Mike sure have articulated that fear on behalf of Boston fans

They fear that in a game seven miami can go into boston's building and win by twenty five points because the last time it happened it's what happened and you think this celtic scene fears that i'm just i it's not whether i think it or not they spent this season winning crushing everyone they're clearly better than everybody look at i can't make better you think amina has since jump shot form is funny how about him calling Drew Holliday a corpse

and Holliday getting four years 135 million and now being on the Olympic team? Now being with LeBron and KD and Joel Embiid on the Olympic team after Amin called him a corpse. But Greg, it's a combination of the Celtics underachieving and the Heat continue to overachieve, especially in the postseason. And so of course you're afraid of Jimmy Butler

when he went on a run last year to the NBA Finals and your guy Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown can't win one. Nobody's gonna fear Indiana, Orlando, Cleveland. You're not gonna, you wanna face those teams. You're going to fear a little bit the guy who you've seen do it, who's telling you in Slam Magazine, nobody wants to play a seven games. That's at least in part because Spolster is going to make

a series worth of adjustments that by the end of the series it's gonna be really annoying to be playing the number one defense in the league. Notice he says it over a seven game series. It's why I walked in a couple days ago and said, I fear the one game sample of these two play-ins more than I fear a seven game series against anybody two play-ins more than I need to have in game series anybody And that includes boss that's dumb. No, I think they feared this you fear they could lose

Yeah, they could lose a game to anybody. They could lose at home to Atlanta and they could lose at home They risk they almost lost to Chicago last year. None of that happens They were four minutes from us screaming all off season, trade Jimmy and Bam. The closest thing they faced to elimination last year in the Eastern Conference was that play-in game against the Chicago Bulls. We're doing positive Billy next. We're doing positive Billy, sunshiney Heat fan.

That's all I ever am. Okay, you're gonna prove it next. Don Lebatard. Many of you, by the way, are writing in and you're saying, Dan, quit being so mean to co-hosts that you always deem incompetent. That's the formula, man.

Me being mean to the co-host is what allows Stugatz to take a very wealthy vacation right now. Stugatz. It's a winning position for everyone but me. Have you guys not figured this out yet? That's the whole thing is me being rotten straight man as everyone else gets to be incompetent Then I yell at them for being incompetent and here's the miracle of it It's the magic elixir bad

Which is the only thing Greg Cody can be becomes good and lovable and it's because standing next to obnoxious strident me makes Everyone look that way and the brush with death helped. Yeah, that was planned by me. The whole thing was contrived. This is the Don LeBattar Show with the StuGuts. I'm flipping through the channels the other day, StuGuts. I'm not even watching the Marlins game. I'm just flipping through the Marlins game and I stop and my I see there's Ron McGill

in the stands with a giraffe a fake giraffe of some sort and his wife and And I was told he threw out the first pitch evidently the honorary first pitch How many of those in your life have you gotten to throw Ron? Just to Dan just is my second time But it's the first time in the daytime with the roof open in that ballpark, which was beautiful. Okay, but- What an unnecessary fact.

Yeah, but how- It affected his pitch. How did you do both times? Did you, were you, is it pressurized? Were you able to get the ball there easily? I got it there. I'm not gonna lie to you. I practiced, you know,

they let me practice against the wall there a lot. And I threw probably a hundred pitches just to make sure I could get it across. I didn't want to be embarrassed. Wow. And I will tell you, I woke up the next morning and I'm sore, I'm sore from throwing a baseball a hundred times.

Against the wall? Yeah, against the wall. A hundred? They got a place in the ballpark there where they warm up the people who want to throw a first pitch and it's literally, you know, it's a big white wall that you throw the ball against. So it comes right back to you.

So they don't have to have someone catching and throwing back to you. And that's what I was doing. I threw like a hundred of them and I was getting the heat on there. As a matter of fact, I threw it so hard that Billy kind of missed it. It bounced off his face.

You hit the mascot in the face? I'm not on purpose. I threw it right at him, but it went by his glove and it hit him in the face. Did you go from the mounds are but now maybe that's that's important thanks for the point there's two guys you got a lot of people step up on the grass yeah i stepped on the rubber from the map yeah well done ron alright uh... before we get to our animal questions

chris cody i was shocked to hear this from your father uh... during the break he was he was yelling at both slam magazine and Jimmy Butler and he's like somebody fears the heat in a seven game series that's what you have to say that is quote heat bullshit culture bluster bullshit that is heat culture talking no but that's you called it heat bullshit culture bluster bullshit I think I'm being slightly misquoted there but I'm no bullshit I wrote it down yeah normally I don't swear heat bullshit culture bluster bullshit two bullshit yeah one of the one of the main platforms of heat culture is overconfidence the idea that you would be

the team nobody else wants to play. All I'm saying is that very few people in America are going to have a lot of money riding on the heat to beat the Celtics in a seven game series. That's all. Not to say they can't do it. Not to say they can't replicate last postseason. Okay. But the odds are really, really against them. I understand that they're different teams. They are different teams. But the last time those teams played a series but the last time i have these two teams have been fighting at the top of the conference for five straight years you know tatum is viewed as an

underachiever only because miami has stood in his way we should be celebrating greg cody today being a homer. He's a good boy. Seriously. Not being a homer. Congrats Greg. Congratulations Greg. Are you proud of him? I mean, it's just, what's going on? Are you feeling okay?

Congratulations. Look at him walk. Take a bow. Take a bow. Take a moment. You are a hero. Take a bow. Take a bow.

Yeah. Do a jig. Do a jig. Do a jog. Look at him go. Do a jog. Let's go. All right. Yeah. Okay, jig, do a jig. Do the Charleston. Look at him go. Do the Charleston, let's go, yeah. All right. All right, yeah.

Yes. Yeah. Okay, I wanna make clear. I'm not. I wanna make clear I am a home run. Yeah, all right, yeah. I'm not anti-heat. I'm not anti-heat.

No, he's not. I'm not wishing they lose. He's pro truth. I'm thinking they're gonna lose. That's all. I think they're gonna lose Wednesday night in Philly. And I think they're gonna lose in the first round. That's all. I don't know about that.

So wait, they'll get into the eight seed. So they'll win seed. So they'll win the Friday matchup. I think so yeah. And then they play Boston which is very unfortunate. Sweet. It's an interesting series. Anything can happen in a seven game series. Five. That's what I keep hearing. No one wants to play the Heat. Why would you want to play a team that's 46 and 36. Apparently not. Oh my God. Five game series. Why would you want to play a team that's 46 and 36? I mean, wow. Well, you're forgetting they have Spoh and he can make the adjustments in a seven game

series. That's true. That's another plank in the Heat culture. They lost more games less regularly. 46 and 36, you mock. They're better than last year. The Knicks won 50 games this year and it's a monumental achievement. It is for them, yeah.

What have they done since Willis-Reed? If you extrapolate that 46 and 36 over like a thousand game samples, it's almost a hundred games over 500. That's a good point, Billy. Yeah. And you know, just because the Marlins are on pace to go 29 and 133, doesn't mean they will. So let's keep that promise. Make that a thousand game samples.

The Marlins won 290 games. Ron, what is the greatest sports honor you have received when you have been at some sort of local icon and where does throwing out first pitches rank in terms of local sports honors for you? That's the greatest sports honor for me. I mean other than going, it's not really a sports honor when I was in the Arbiter's Hall of Fame, I guess the greatest sport award I got was I was the one-on-one champion. No, wait a minute. No, wait. This happened already.

No, you're not gonna do that. I forgot the Hot Dog Hall of Fame. I apologize. I'm not making fun. What an honor. No, you are, you are. But no, my greatest Sports Honor, I guess the greatest thing as far as playing sports

was I was the one-on-one all-campus champion at the University of Florida in the intramural program. Wow. Ron, wait a minute. I do wanna get stuck here again before we get to the animal video. Why is it, Greg Cody, that I cannot have Ron McGill on? Ask him on.

That is ridiculous. Our betters is a funny word, okay? I'm a word enjoyer, and our betters is funny to me. All right, if I can continue, please, I simply want for everyone to understand that every time Ron McGill talks about a syrup, a syrupy deep honored to him sincerely because he because ron mcgill appreciates what i'm about to say which is the following

he's a local icon and when a place that is a local icon also celebrates you then he becomes part of the flavor and taste of miami yeah for a different idea that okay so but in that that that greg cody would continually mock that as one of your greatest honors uh... and that he laughs every time it's mentioned is to me it feels insulting to your friendship it up we know all now you know now like i said great stuff he's not a homer

so he's just not going to with everything. I bow to Greg. I understand. I'm not a world renowned columnist. I'm just a local zookeeper who sometimes gets a bone thrown to him by the hot dog guy. So I'm happy. I mean, you're in the Arbiters Hall of Fame and you always will be.

Thank you very much. Yeah, I mean. Thank you very much. There he is, baby, there he is. Yeah, look at that. Look how happy he was of course why wouldn't he be and are you wearing the same shirt no it's a different shirt Dan I different shirt okay crowd you got there and no it was packed it was there was a live band what are you doing it is looks like a David Sampson crowd at a vineyard

That must have been one hell of a traffic jam He said he came in here with road rage and we haven't addressed it I meant to address it four segments ago He's been complaining about Roy Oh, I so regret not telling the audience that he was gonna take everyone out today because he did come in here steaming. McGill, Greg Cody, as legendary Miami people, can you please shout to the skies for our leadership for somebody to help us with the terrible traffic congestion problem that we have because our infrastructure is not built for the number of people who now live in South Florida. Make a good point, Dan. You of all people probably suffering that living on the beach because the beach... Oh Lord have mercy. That is a nightmare. I only go out there to see you.

It's the worst I've seen lately. No, it's the worst it's ever been. We are now old people complaining about traffic. Old people complaining about local traffic damn right but it can't be this bad anywhere else in the united states it can't be it's not possible well i don't i disagree i was just in new york city but then you don't need a car because you got incredible public transportation but new york city is ridiculous you can walk back to the you can drive and and and likewise i i just

spent four days in LA in stop and stop traffic on the 405, which is absolutely horrific. So I'm sure all over the country, people are saying, well, no, we have bad traffic too. But Miami is the worst right now than I've ever experienced. Ron, were 27 people inducted into the Arbiter's Hall of Fame this year? Big class. I don't know, yeah it could have been 27. What's your point Billy?

No I'm just asking, just curious. That's the entire crowd. Wait a minute, 27? Don't let anyone in. Wait a minute, Ron, an inductee class of 27? Your point, Dan? Wait a minute, Ron, an inductee class of 27? Your point, Dan? I mean, there are more people outside of the Hall of Fame than inside it! Wow.

Now why don't you and Cody go out to lunch? Wow! Go out to our betters! Yeah, let's go to our betters. Anybody who buys a kraut dog gets inducted in the Hall of Fame. I'm kidding. I'm just kidding. You know that, Ron. Okay, guys. How about those animal videos?

All right. Let's play this video for Ron. It's an orangutan and a juice box. So tell me, this is going viral on TikTok. It is B-roll. And tell me what's happening here. Oh, Jesus Christmas. You know, this is again, people doing things that shouldn't be done just to get clicks. First of all, whatever that orangutan is drinking, it probably shouldn't be drinking. You got a plastic straw ripping off the plastic, throwing it out, everything bad about plastics, going into more plastic stuff, drinking. You know, stop promoting this garbage. Says a lot of vitamin C though in the orange juice.

Yeah. Yeah, I don't even think that's orange juice. I think it's just some artificially sweetened crap and you're giving this orangutan an addiction to sugar like crack and it's just the worst thing you could possibly do and of course social media, the toilet full of the internet keeps promoting it. Well I see from the video is a great ape using tools.

Like is a great illustration. That's the part that I was. Is that what you saw? Is that what you saw? I mean if I'm gonna take a positive from the video is a great ape using tools like is a great illustration the part that I was is that what you saw Is that what you saw? I mean if I'm gonna take a positive from the video that will be it I saw an orangutan polluting Her first also rang a tan that that one. Yeah That's all you saw he littered there's no question about minority No, no, no, I'm taking the positive out of the video and that's the positive that I saw

in a great ape in a ring of tan. I will say, you are a bright spot on this show. You are definitely a bright spot on this show. He's never been described that way. Ever. No, not by you. Also Roy is not in the Albertus Hall of Fame. I could eat a hot dog though.

John Jay is though. John Jay is it? So is coach Miraball family from Columbus High School. Wow! Who accepted on the family's behalf Ron? Ron is George Moss. George Moss and he was there he accepted. Ron the thing about this video that I did think was more interesting than don't do this to orangutans. They need to have a natural lifestyle that's not sugary, plastic, straws, and cardboard. But he unwrapped a straw and used a straw to drink from a juice box.

And I do believe that you've become somewhat numb to how amazing animals are if you are not marveling like we are at the orangutan using this as a tool this way, the way a human would and telling us how smart this animal is. Dan, I've told you over and over how smart these animals are, I've watched an orangutan, watch a zookeeper unlock a lock with a key and then try to take a stick to use it

as a key to pick that lock to get out of its enclosure. So they are incredibly intelligent. They use all kinds of tools for things. I just wish they would show a tool of maybe an orangutan using a stick to get some honey out of a beehive as opposed to pulling out a plastic straw from a plastic wrapper and putting it into artificial sweetened juice.

Don Van Orsdal, funeral home magnate. Wow. Whoa. Hall of Fame this Whoa! Star power! DVO. People are dying to get in. Our betters better give me a ton of free hot dogs after all this publicity you guys are doing. I agree.

That right there, that is a comedically perfect description. See you later, Ron. Love you guys. See you, Ron.