The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Dan Is A Racist And Sexist

Episode Date: February 17, 2025

Why was Doug Gottlieb on Radio Row while he was coaching a college basketball team that was in the midst of a 21-game losing streak? Then, Dan finally tells the story of his racism at the Super Bowl. Was he actually being racist? Or was he being classist? And is he also a sexist? Plus, the 5 minutes on Emory Williams and the Miami Hurricanes that you didn't know you needed, Greg wants to respect the chicken, and Chris and Billy debate how many oranges you need to squeeze to get a glass of orange juice. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Rise to rewards with the BMO Eclipse Rise Visa Card. Terms and conditions apply. Welcome to the Big Sui, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not gonna apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.

I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now here's the marching band to nowhere, fat face and the habitual liar. This episode of the Dail-O-Mantar Show with StuGuts is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings, the crown is yours. Let him slide.

Can I scrub there? My name didn't sound like you said it exactly right. DraftKings. DraftKings, the crown is yours. Let him slide. Can I scrub there? My name didn't sound like you said it exactly right. This episode of the Deliver-Ship skits. Nah, let him slide. You're gonna, Montreal's gonna poke out every now and then on this show, all right? Everybody just hang on. In three days?

He picked up the accent? No, no, this ain't the accent. That's what I was doing there, for sure. I slept for 14 hours yesterday too. LeBron did take out Doug Gottlie ain't the accent. That's what I was doing there for sure. I slept for 14 hours yesterday too. LeBron did take out Doug Gottlieb over the weekend. He informed me, I did not know this, that Doug Gottlieb hadn't won a game in three months and is two and 24 at Green Bay.

You wanna ask something crazy about Doug Gottlieb just in general? So like he's the head coach of a college basketball team, right, and we're in the middle of college basketball season He was at radio row in the middle of his college basketball Daily show I know but he should be coaching his team You can do that remotely like we were walking around radio row and we saw that the set was all set up for the Doug

Gottlieb show and it's kind of like you should probably be with your team right now I would think, in the middle of the season. I know that this is the biggest place, but you have this other commitment. Maybe do the show from a studio, at least in the same town, or have someone there and do it remotely. The setup for the Doug Gottlieb show,

and in fairness, I didn't actually see him there. I just saw the set was all set up for his show and I was kinda like, should he just be off for a week from coaching his team in the middle of the season? Little cigats and everyone. Is it possible that it was just his people there and not him the way that? It's very possible.

I'm gonna look into this. Unprofessional. Unprofessional. And the most professional. Very professional for one job, unprofessional for the other, either way. Quite the buying. The rare, the professional for one job, unprofessional for the other, either way. Quite the bind to put himself in. The rare, adequately professional

by being unprofessional in one venue, but maximum professional in the other venue, two and 24, his Green Bay basketball team, again, has not won a game in three months, doesn't matter much, it would appear whether he shows up or not. They won on Sunday. Was their first win after losing 21 straight so they showed

probably shouldn't be on radio row if you've lost 21 in a row but here we are he was there I want to confirm so he was indeed there that does seem a little bit crazy I what is he doing flying in and out like what can we praise the work ethic a little bit it It's pretty impressive. For one. The other is weird. Okay, so he was doing that on Radio Row. I'm about to tell you my racist story.

Me being racist. It's about damn time. It has been too long. And thank you, Roy. You're welcome. And now I'm scared of it, and I think it's gonna under deliver, but at 11 o'clock Eastern so

in an hour and 15 minutes I'm trying to decide you guys helped me decide the best way to do this you guys do not know this story you guys do not know the guest I thought it was two guests because it was somebody and somebody who witnessed it I thought we were going to get two guests of citing me exposing myself calling myself out for doing something racist on Radio Row. And I don't know whether to do it with the reveal of the guest in an hour and 15 minutes or just to do it in the buildup right before

the guest joins us so that you can see the punchline of the guest is gonna join us who I did the racist thing to. And so how do you guys think is the best way to do this because none nobody here have no information Yeah, very hard to rise you I'll make a ruling write the name of the guest and I will rule whether or not How it needs well hold on can I give Greg Cody's some more backstory because I don't I don't know the story I don't know the guest I know that when we had another Conversation separate from this it somehow became connected where we were talking about whether or not Walter Payton played

football in socks. No, those two things aren't connected. Okay, there's just another tea. One of those things might not be true. We just, right, we- It was and we found a lot of pictures of him in socks. Dan is racist, so. Well. That's true.

Rather than know the person, what I need to know is exactly how racist. Yeah. Because I've been having on-air fun with this and it's one of those things that I, all right, we're getting to the point where I what I need to know is like exactly how racist. Yeah. Because I've been having on air fun with this and it's one of those things that I, all right, we're getting to the point where I kind of need to know. Coogler's afraid of it. Coogler's afraid of it.

Okay, good. So whose judgment are we following? No, but Coogler doesn't know the story either. I'm the only one so far with the story. Nobody else. Well, this is concerning. I kind of need to know the levels, the extent of the racism.

Can we tell Roy? Wait, which race did you offend? I offended Roy's race. Oh, that's great then. I'm gonna need Roy to approve this bit. Yeah. Roy's race. My people.

Okay, within the next hour, I'm going to figure out how to tell this story. And I now am scared of it too, but I also feel like, because you guys are expecting some sort of horribly overt racism as opposed to what it is that I did, which was an honest mistake, but was also racist, is something I would think that you would trust me

with the telling of that story. Well, okay, does the guest that's coming on know that they were a victim of your racism, or are they finding out that you were racist towards them? No, they know. No, they know. Okay, so if the person's willing to come on, it could be not that bad or the person could be

kind of coming on to publicly end you. Yeah, and this person is exceedingly kind. I don't think he gets to decide for everybody the ruling on this. Like he's an exceedingly kind person who met this with exceeding kindness that perhaps I did not merit. But so I don't think that that's the way to go.

It sounds like you want it to be really racist and the person's like, nah, it was cool. And you're like, no, please. Well, I, okay, well, I don't, we'll find out together when I tell the story and I'm gonna wait a minute. I'm gonna not tell it right now so that I, so that it, there's both the tees. I'm teased.

Yeah. And also I can discuss it with you in the break so that I can just never speak of it again if it's too bad because I haven't run this past anybody. I have to say after this buildup, man, there better be a big payday. Well, but I'm not sure there is. That's the problem. And I think we're already there because we couldn't get this guest when the story happened. And I think teasing it for seven days has overdone it. It's going to nuke the story. Like I don't

setting this up like you burned a cross at someone's lawn. I don't think the story now will meet expectations. I think it's impossible for that to happen. You didn't deny that accusation. Right. I would, if I didn't burn a cross, you'd know about it. I'd be like saying it from the hilltop. Sure. I did not burn a cross. I never have. No pillowcase on your head?

No. OK, good. Whoops. Is this more societal shift racism or your classic type? I'll come back to it. I'm sorry to tease it this way. Mean as a waiter racism? Yes.

No! Oh boy. Oh boy. We all look the same, huh Dan? We can dig ourselves out of this one. Oh boy. We can dig ourselves out of this. It is exactly on the spectrum of a mean as a waiter.

Oh no. It is. It is. In fact, Chris Cody, you have never exhibited quite such genius here because yes, now we're here, for those of you who do not know. Now, this happened to me twice at the Clevelander. During the course of the things that we're doing every day,

very often I can be lost in my own thoughts. Now more than ever with the amount of things that I'm thinking about every day, just don't have anything to do with the doing of this show. Two times in my life I have offended a colleague at the Clevelander because I did not know who they were and I was supposed to know who they were and I should have known who they were.

So one time I walk into our studio and sitting at a table with a black t-shirt that I thought was a Clevelander t-shirt, it's somebody eating lunch, eating a sandwich. And I walk right past him and I thought was a Clevelander t-shirt, it's somebody eating lunch, eating a sandwich. And I walked right past him and I thought, Amin Elhassen, who worked with us as a colleague, has been somebody with us for a long time, I thought he was a Clevelander employee

who for some reason was having lunch in our studio, who'd just come in to have lunch. And that's how I saw him from the back. The other time that it happened is, I walked right past Diana Rusini in the makeup chair because I thought she was from adjacent deportes that was in the other room for that brief period, and I thought Rusini was Cuban.

When I was walking past her, she was getting her hair done. So this is what happened, and I'm just gonna tell you. You see, he's sexist too. Right, it's not just racism, it's sexism as well. So I'm in the convention center and my wife needs to find a bathroom. And the convention center is vast. That is, the convention center, put it on the poll at Levitar Show, are all convention centers vast because they all look the same. No fine cough button.

Good job. Thank you. Continue with your story. I downloaded Venmo by the way. I'm all hooked up. So easy, right? Damn right. Hell yeah.

It empowers me. When I see that app. You just wanna start sending people money. When I see that app in my phone, it delights me. It's a beautiful logo. Yeah, great V, blue background. Can I pay? I'd like to pay. You're not fine for those $5, but you do own.

Did you change your code since I hacked it last week in an amazing. You did. Have I changed my number yet? He hasn't changed it. Why would I? I could get right back in there. It's so good.

Do you know how crazy it is that I was able to find his, that I was able to break into his phone with his number without actually knowing what the number was last week on one try? That's crazy. It was a wild guess. Yeah, wild Dan Cody. I've in-mode Gary the Bag $100 just to be kind.

Really? Yeah. Did you leave a note? You know you can leave notes. No, I didn't know that. Really? I'm still learning. Yeah. You know, the ins and outs. So I and outs so I like you you're an old dog that does learn new tricks. You know, I do Tricking it. He doesn't actually but I am now officially Gary the bag, Dan I am paying this fine for him right now. What fine what are you doing?

You owe $20 from the last now as I put it in his 20 cents though All right. Well, it's been paid that way. All right, well it's been paid, there's nothing we can do. Can you Venmo less than a dollar? Can you Venmo 20 cents? Yes. I didn't even know that. Yes, so here's the story. I'm in the convention center

and I'm trying to find a bathroom for my wife. And I'm not gonna say there's a kiosk, what would I describe this as? It's not quite a table either, it's something very thin that would come up to about chest high, and it's got some brochures on it. So it's not quite a table, but it's in any convention center. You would find a table that's got some brochures on it.

I would always refer to that as a kiosk. But it's not, I know what you're talking about. No, but a kiosk might excuse me as thinking somebody works there. That's not what this is. It was. It's a thin table. Just like a high top?

Like a high top thin table and it's got about seven or eight brochures on it, but it's not an information queue. Was someone looking like they should have been manning it or womaning it? Someone was, a man was behind it. That's a kiosk. It's not a kiosk.

Sounds like it's just a bar top table. Okay, the distinction between a bar top table and a kiosk is an important one because when I step back from my racism, I realized that this would not be a kiosk. When I step back from assuming that that person worked there because they were standing behind brochures, that were just brochures that you'd grab at any convention center that wouldn't be manned by anybody

because there are 50 of them the length of the convention center on where it is you can go on an alligator boat tour. But it's not an information desk. And it's someone who's on the phone with a Bluetooth and i don't see that they've got a an earbud in and so i don't i'd just see someone standing there in a collared shirt and so i come to that person and billy i lied to you earlier because i didn't want to put both of the stories together and then reveal who it was which was former nfl running back in university of miami running back jared

who i've covered, who I know, who had to pull the phone out of his ear, had to pull the earbud out of his ear to receive and accept my racism and then told me his father played without socks. Wow, I'm still very confused. Which part are you confused about? What did you ask him?

Where is there a bathroom? Yes, thinking that he worked there, interrupting his phone call. He's on a business call, he's a businessman. Wow, I'm still very confused. Which part are you confused by? What did you ask him? Where is there a bathroom? Yes, thinking that he worked there, interrupting his phone call. He's on a business call, he's a businessman. Was he booking tours? Did you approach him from the back? No, from the front.

Did you play the game of, oh, I knew who you were, that's why I was asking you. Scott. I know you, I only ask people I know. It's quite recognizable, like he's been around, like every Walter Payton man of the year, we see Jared Payton, former Orange Pole MVP.

Well, I will say that my wife's need for a bathroom overtook all ability to recognize people. I had to find her. That's not a thing. Throw her under the bus. Valerie's called that you might be racist. You're doubling down on the sexism. Too much information.

You're blaming her? It's like a fake punch in the ribs. For your facial blindness? Like, ah, I'm just getting Jared. What? Wait, hold on. JP, my guy. Did you think that excuse through? You've had several days. Her to you like a fake like I'm just getting what wait My guy you think that excuse through you've had several days Visual wife's need to go to the bathroom made you not recognize a black person the visual of day I was wearing a collared shirt Dan in like superhero mode like I am getting my wife to the bathroom out of the way everyone

I'm bathroom man sir so Jared Payton's coming on to do what exactly? Are you gonna talk to him about whether his dad wore socks or not you call him a liar Now I'm against you call you call them a liar You said you found several photos on the internet of him wearing socks, so we'll just talk to Jared Payton I don't know. I'll talk to him maybe he may need it worth socks around the house Let's let's build out this bathroom man superhero character. Where he just.

Out of the way peasants, my wife needs to urinate. Deflection. Even though my wife is a woman so she doesn't use the bathroom. Don Lebertard. Our Panther group chat, we're confident against the lighting. This is a different team.

You're a Panther group chat though. No, I think, no, but dude, you're confident against the lightning. This is a different team. You're a panther group chat No, I think no, but dude, you're you're so wrong on that We've been terrified of this team forever And I think there's a different energy where the Panthers they want the lightning still gods I want t-shirts made for this Panther run what could be this Panther run our panther group chat We're not afraid of the lightning. That's a tagline for World three this is the done LeBathard Show with the Stugats. ["The Last of Us"]

Kim Ward has threatened the league that if they don't pick him, he's gonna remember. Good news is he's gonna remember. Good news is he's gonna get picked. But if he's not picked first. Oh then that's interesting. Hello bet. You think he gets picked second? Wow. If he's not picked first he's gonna remember. Was that a shot he took at Restrepo? Yes 100% and I'm glad that it came out quite honestly because I wasn't a fan of how Restrepo prepared for that bowl game.

It was bad. And Restrepo's got this thing underdog mentality, built himself up to all-time leading receiver at the University of Miami, but there's a lot of myth building. Guy does a lot of things for likes and, you know, scrappy guy. Everyone's like, must be a big team guy. It wasn't about the NFL. If it was about the NFL, Cam Ward wouldn't have been playing. Cam Ward said directly, there were some guys that weren't playing in, Cam Ward wouldn't have been playing. Cam Ward said directly,

there were some guys that weren't playing in that bowl game that should have been playing in that bowl game. Cam Ward entered that bowl game against a top five pass defense without three of his four leading receivers. Elijah Arroyo might be a first round pick. He was out there. Cam Ward might be the first overall pick.

He was out there. Xavier Restrepo didn't want to be out there. Xavier Restrepo wasn't carrying any injuries. He made the decision, and that's fine. But if the number one overall pick potentially is playing, if the guy that helped you get to all time leading receiver status at the University of Miami is playing,

I think you kind of owe it to him. And to me, it wasn't about the NFL. It was about the preparation that went into the bowl game. It was about the two weeks that led up to it that Xavier Reshrepo didn't want to be a part of. So I'm happy that he got taken to task because I do think Xavier Res Richrepo is going to look back and regret that because the way that he left made people feel a certain kind of

way. Like that's not the exit we believed in. That's not the myth that we wanted to buy into. Is skipping a bowl game any better or worse than playing the first half of a bowl game and not the second half? Yes, it's a lot worse. It's a half worse. No, it's a lot worse because Ken Ward was not just there for that first half, which was spectacular. He was there with his brothers for two weeks, going to practice, going through the grind, preparing for the bowl game, one last game with his boys. Xavier Richrerapo wasn't really doing any of that.

He kind of opted out on all of that. He could have not played and still been around the program and he wasn't and that's his prerogative. But no one was saying anything and people kind of knew that this was going on behind the scenes and it was, look, he's entitled, again, he's entitled to do what he wants, but I found it disappointing. You are doing something that a lot of fans are going to do

and is going to change this conversation In fact, I will say that on live air. I got caught in the air and Went from right to wrong on I've always said this about college football Which is yeah, you don't have to play in that bowl game. It's a business decision. And then it dawned on me, well, no, now it's a transaction. That's a professional transaction. And once you do that, I won't have Restrepo go to that huddle for the rah-rah punctuation camaraderie of being team guy that Mike's wants. I know he'd like to believe in that myth.

We're all in it together. Those two guys helped each other Cam Ward helped Restrepo Restrepo also, I'm sure believes he helped Cam Ward I don't know what their actual relationship is. I'm more interested in the business transactions portions of this because Mike sounds hurt by it and I understand why because if the other guys care enough and mike's out there defending cam war for playing the half that he played while everyone watching is expecting the thought process i had on this one which is

played the whole game all of you should play the whole game that's been the rule for college sports forever and over the last ten years more and more guys have opt out in opted out in a way that anyone can respect and understand the business decision you cannot blow out your knee in the last game but the playing of one half versus not playing at all hurting your feelings mike when you're fighting the internet on the half that he played because the internet that said they lost the game because he didn't play the second half if he played, because the internet said they lost the game because he didn't play the second half.

If he played the second half, they clearly would have won the game. There wasn't a time that Iowa State was gonna stop them going down the field. Probably. What bothered me the most was Kam became a national topic for not playing a second half, when Kam played an entire quarter extra

than he was supposed to. Miami has Carson Beck today because of how they went into that bowl game with the plan. They needed to evaluate Emory Williams. They had the best quarterback in the portal come to Miami because of the decision to not play Cam the entire game. Cam played a quarter more than I had heard he was going to play. It's not about that. It's about this guy and a lot of guys on this team in the NIL era putting their foot down saying, all right, these bowl games are gonna mean

a little bit more. We're not gonna be part of the problem. It's kind of like the NBA discussion. We're gonna actually play. And Cam got villainized nationally for actually playing more. If he hadn't played at all, he wouldn't have gotten an ounce of criticism really but the fact that he only played in a half

Made this matter more meanwhile a dude like Xavier Restrepo who just kind of checked out on the entire bowl prep Process just totally skates by and I found that really unfair Cody says there's no difference between What Restrepo did and what Cam Ward did. There's a huge difference between the value of a quarterback and the value of a wide receiver, almost no matter who it is. Certainly Restrepo had a great college career. I don't think he's, you know, somebody who's gonna be a huge star in the NFL. Leading receiver, look, okay, we can minimize and dilute Restrepo however it is that you

wish to leading receiver in the history of the program that has produced plenty of good receivers right took him a little more time but not that much more time like was was a prolific receiver and I understand why he may think he's a first-round pick even if you don't think he's a first-round okay they'd be they win that game without Restrepo they also win that game if Cam Ward plays the second half I'm just saying and they'd be stuck with Emory Williams if Cam Ward does play that second half nobody believes that nobody believe he just told you that He's telling that from the every Williams is a quarterback if you don't get the chance to evaluate him in that bowl game I'm telling you 100% certain one half like makes their whole decision on that? Yeah. Happens to no. Yeah. He's doing a happens to no. That's a small sample to make an entire decision.

He's doing a happens to no. I'm not saying you're wrong, that's just wild. They entered that game loving Emory Williams. Loving Emory Williams, thinking that they would be fine. Wow. I'm telling you, yes, that second half was that disastrous. I betray a confidence when I say that Mike Ryan for the last couple of years has been touting how high they were on Emery Williams and I have seen very little evidence of whatever that high was but for two years he's, the thought was that Van Dyke better not sit out too much because he'll never get the job back like that was the appraisal 18 18 games they liked Emory and look offensive coordinators fall in love with different guys is how Kirk Cousins means almost like a Billion dollars they like guys that execute the offense there were plenty of people

Boosters and people on the staff that had their questions about it But people like Shane and Dawson loved Emory Williams for example and the entire coaching staff liked Emory Williams grit. Me as someone that was just at practice and watching the games I didn't really see any kind of special talent always wanted to upgrade the position but I'm telling you that second half was massive for where Miami finds himself now with Carson Beck. I will tell you also with certainty that the way that Xavier Restrepo checked out on that game was not well received. It felt bad to his teammates. There were a lot of teammates. It felt more like Sam Brown who also kind of deuced on the team. But whatever, Sam Brown. There was just, there were a

bunch of guys that knew what they were risking. Guys with legitimate NFL prospects that knew what they were risking by even putting the shoulder pads on. Look, Kim Ward would have liked to have taken two weeks off and prepared for the NFL draft and not have to worry and watch film but he didn't do that. For his teammates he went out there and then he got billified by the national media for doing just that where he could have just been playing golf like some of his other teammates. I want to know, Chris Cody, I want you to prepare for me, please, because we have a very important distinction to make right now.

Mike Ryan, it seems to me, went aggressively from happen to know, I happen to know, which was the highest form of reporting that he does around here, to with certainty, which seemed like it was a level higher than Happen to Know. I thought Happen to Know was the highest form that there was here, but now there's a with certainty,

and I didn't know there was one of those. Like, I thought Happen to Know was the highest range that we went on this particular song, but Chris, did Roy? I think too, with certainties. I also happen to respect the chain of command because I wasn't gonna talk about this until Cam Ward gave me license to.

You weren't gonna talk Pop Tarts bowl and. Was not, was not gonna be talking about Xavier Restrepo opting out of a bowl game. He wasn't gonna give us five straight minutes of Emery Williams. So what did you think he did at the convention center? That is what swept through my face and head as soon as he took out the earpiece. As soon as he took it out, I'm like, what was I thinking here?

You're in charge of the brochures? That Jared Payton is just, he's gonna get- Normally the brochures are just like in a little compartment on a wall. You just take out the ones you wanna go to see. I thought Jared Payton was there to offer me an airboat ride Okay, I don't know did you ask him how much it would be or I didn't look like an airboat captain I was just I was he actually just said Dan, you know me Boy and then what went through your head because you said how do I know an airboat captain? Never been in these parts And then what went through your head, because you said, how do I know an airboat captain?

Never been in these parts. It's got a very recognizable face. If you covered him for years at the University of Miami, you would remember this guy. He's lovely, too. He's a super nice guy. Well, my wife, after returning from the bathrooms, procured for her by bathroom man, my wife said, wow, he's sweet.

And I'm like, yes, his father was sweetness. His father. Apple doesn't fall far. No, and his father played without socks. And Billy called him a liar after. He did not play without socks. Like there's clear, unless for some reason, Walter Payton cut off the actual foot part of his sock.

He did not play without socks. He was not playing with leggings on that were painted like socks. I also, forgive me, I'm close to 40 years old. I feel like I would have heard about this. I feel like I would have heard about one of the greatest running backs of all time, not playing with socks.

Look, just do a Google image search for Walter Payton and see if you can find any photos of him running around without socks. They don't exist. Okay, so we will find out together. No, we have the answer. I know. Jared Payton's a liar.

Okay, we will question him. Maybe it wasn't Jared Payton, maybe it was a boat captain. Are you serious that Jared Payton told you this? Yes. Huh. Could be a Jared Payton impersonator. Are you, yeah, are you, hold up, now.

A doppelganger. Did you even talk to Jared Payton? And airboat captain? Like that's just, who even talk to Jared Payton? And airboat captain. That's just who looks remarkably like Jared Payton. Greg just opened the door to a whole possibility. I hope to God this is actually Jared Payton. Because, oh my God, you didn't recognize him. There is like a 40% chance that this is not Jared Payton.

Well no, Jared Payton presumably is actually coming on. Because I doubt that you asked this person for their phone number. So Jared Payton's coming on. Does Payton presumably is actually coming on, because I doubt that you asked this person for their phone number. So Jared Payton's coming on, does he, does the person that's coming on know the story? I don't know, we're gonna find out all of this together, and we're gonna find out whether he's a liar, because he did mention to me this person,

and it might be a Jared Payton impersonator who has a library of lies that he can tell to make you think that he's Jared Payton's son of Walter Payton, one of which is is my father played without socks, which is crazy. Did he say my father's Walter Payton? Yes, or did you just say my father played without socks? He had a big orange boy and stuff. Yeah, I know. All right, we're gonna get Florida State. All right. How many has to do? Wait time. All right He will be He will be on in an hour. Billy, I don't think,

like you have over 20 years, I will say that one of the great visuals of my life, I will take it I will take it with me as a forever memory on this show. When Mike is talking about something he cares about deeply, and you are pretending to care next to him. Not pretending, you're trying to sow seeds of division here that I'm not gonna allow. This is how you tried to break apart the Payton family, and it's not gonna happen here. Okay, fair enough.

So you tell me where I have what I'm going to allege wrong, and I will withdraw my criticism on what I believe to be the glean in your eye that I can recognize that I have a fluency in, that I don't believe anybody else has a fluency in. You so had no interest in Emery Williams' talk. No, I mean, it's for someone. Maybe not me, but it's for someone.

Someone's getting something out of it, so I'm not here to, you know, boo boo other people's you know, whatever that saying is This fair it is fairly young other people's yums. That's it. Thank you Roy It is fairly amazing that that second half was so disastrous that Miami changed their entire plan for that position hard to believe Great MVP trophy for the Orange Bowl just filled with oranges Incredible and their defensive coordinator got fired for that or just the whole season? If we're making our evaluations in a half now.

Like if we're making- That's wild that we're just openly saying our entire process for decision making on this player is how he does in two quarters. Yeah, ridiculous. No. I'm, it's like, it was decidedly pro-Emory and then after that half everyone kind of knew.

Everyone kind of knew. But isn't it true Carson Beck was eager to say the least to come here largely because his girlfriend plays on the women's basketball team. He wanted to come here. Yeah I'm not doubting that. He also declared for the NFL Draft. Right, but that changed his mind. Just like Cam Ward did. It's hard to believe that Mario Cristobal is going to turn down an accomplished proven college quarterback for Emory Williams? I would say... He didn't know about Carson Beck at the time. Carson Beck was talked about as possible solutions.

Mario Cristobal hadn't spoken to Carson Beck. Carson Beck wasn't in the portal I I will tell you okay that you have more information than me And so I'm just using the information you're giving me to arrive at the assessment that if your results Driven and you care about process What you just described to me Mike is pretty terrible process to love every williams for a year and a half and then all of a sudden when you've got a replace the best offensive performer at that position i've ever seen

and you're like our evaluation was this guy was good a half ago and he's no longer good that if that's you're gonna have to give me more information for me to trust that process is it because every single one of you guys came away with the same impression of Emory Williams like oh if Miami goes I never thought he was good though and the coach is supposed to know more than me well isn't that where you're at like your coaches are supposed to know more than you if they're like all in on Emory Williams and then one half of football changes it I'm a football fan I'm not a coach right and it was pretty obvious to everybody that Miami's defense was a mess and that changes

need to be made. So sometimes like you're not sometimes not being super close to it actually helps you like they the staff liked Emery Williams and the staff saw the precipitous fall between Cam Ward, a potential number one pick and Emery Williams. Granted, it wasn't a fair. It wasn't a fair situation for Emory Williams to jump into, not having many receivers, but it was obvious, and yes, if Emory Williams goes out and plays well in that second half

and Miami wins that football game, Emory Williams is in all likelihood, I think, your starting quarterback next season. Yeah. I'm sorry, Billy, what notes are you taking now? I just wrote EW, Emory Williams? You can't please you down I mean, yeah, I mean what do you want me to do? I'm just here trying to pay attention I really just want to ask Greg about orange juice because you're talking about the orange bowl and the Syracuse orange

Are you juice man? You saw me as a juice man. No, I find orange juice to be too tart or too sweet I've never had an orange juice that walks that line. You know, it's one extreme or the other. By the way, thank God Cam Ward had a good first quarter in his first game or else they might have benched him. That's why they call him Cam Quarter. Exactly. You know what I, the thing about- My dad's a tuned liquid man, by the way.

Coffee and beer. If you ever juice your own orange juice, surprising how useless oranges are. You gotta juice like eight oranges to get a glass of orange juice. It's incredibly wasteful. They don't produce any juice. That's why the price of orange juice

is when you go to some restaurant, it's like $4. Like, this seems steep. It's like, no, that was like 12 oranges to make that one glass of orange juice. Crazy. You are just doing silly talk, but. No, I'm a juice man and I'm concerned about this economy and the fruits.

Juice man. I will say, in Billy's defense, I will say on behalf of people listening to this right now who have daily unhappinesses that are surrounding the price of things and the inability to afford things and the skyrocketing inflation. I'm taking some liberty here with Imbili's defense because I don't know where this is going.

Just get out on the front end. I don't know where we're going with this, France. We're on this journey together. I just wrote down eggs. Let's get to EW. Eggs, dude, eggs. And I'm not gonna do it again because I've done it over time.

Limes, out of control, out of control. Strawberries going down. I paid $10 for a small glass of fresh juice that had some things in it that should have cost $1.99 because of where the price of these things is going. Yeah, but the places you go. Yeah, exactly. No, this is just, no, this was an ad.

Oh, the places you go. I'm just on the beach. I'm just on the beach. Well, that's the beach. That's exactly right. It's outdoors. What is that? It's an outdoor market.

It's an outdoor market. It's not a fancy place. It's just an outdoor place where they're selling produce. Farmer's markets are expensive. Yeah. Yeah, everybody knows that. Again, it's $10, though. Yes, I'm not saying that all glasses of juice are $10,

but when Billy says that the orange is useless because you need eight oranges to make an orange juice, he's not wrong. I feel like I could get a glass of orange juice. Give me like three oranges. No, I'm telling you, you'll get like two shot glasses with three oranges. They're surprisingly useless.

And there's also specific oranges that are made for juicing. Like you have to look up which oranges should I buy for juicing, because I guess they're juicier than other oranges, because some, clementines, get out of here. Why are you flexing, Chris Cody, as if you could get more juice out of an orange

than the average weak man? I think I could. I was using a juicer, a machine that's made to juice this orange. You put it on the thing, it goes, vrrrrrrrrrr a problem if we're gonna be honest with you the pulp gets in the way So then you have to go after every couple things you take out of the pulp because that starts clogging up the juicing machine But yeah, are you with some pulp guy? some pulp

Like to bite the pulp a little bit really it's like a little explosion You can probably put it inside your mouth like you do a zin. We're pulp people. Put it on the pole please at Levitard show. No pulp, little pulp or Max pulp in your orange juice. And can we get someone out there please to go run and get us eight oranges to see how much juice Chris Cody can actually produce squeezing them with his man boobs the way that he was when he was doing calisthenics. Do you think like, cause I actually don't take zins.

Wait, hold on a second. How are you planning on juicing this orange with your bare hands? That's what he's saying. Well, the way I've seen it done is you have a contraption where you're squeezing it down on something. If we don't have that here, I can- There's hand juicers. He was doing it physically by the squeeze. He was doing it physically by the squeeze.

Man, I was stretching to do it. Nah, you're talking about ripping these apart and cut it in half and we're squeezing with our hands the juice like animals. I'll give you eight oranges. Eight oranges. I'll feed us all orange juice with eight oranges. No, no.

Meh. At least three big glasses. Eight oranges? What? No. Well, you just said you'd feed 30 people with three glasses. With just your hands?

Billy is saying the correct thing, that you will not be able, what is, who's betting? It's shocking how little juice comes out of oranges. Like, my wife is getting sick or whatever, and she's like, oh, I would like, you know, some fresh orange juice. And you call a place and it's like, it's 4.99. You're like, that seems like a lot.

Like I could buy a juicer on Amazon for like $14 and just juice these oranges myself. And then I realize how quickly you go through these oranges. They get you with these tiny cups though, with orange juice, little cups. I like those. When you go to like little breakfast joints. They do.

And if there's pulp in there, it's really just kind of juice in the juice. You know what I mean? Like it's elevating how much juice, it's like ice. Pulp is ice for orange juice. It's essentially become what Google and Zoom is. If I hand you a nicotine pouch, it's even if it's not. Like a band-aid.

Like, yeah, I don't take, I don't actually do. I prefer others in the market, but it's. Enough of the juice. You worried about microplastics Anywhere well After that study on the testicles came out. I was like, okay Let me do something about this and then Apple pectin is a part of my what did you do? Apple pectin what is that Apple pectin has shown an ability to gather all the foreign substances in your body and extract them has shown an ability to gather all the foreign substances in your body and extract them.

That's what they gave the kids in Chernobyl. Apple pectin, if you're worried about microplastics. I also don't use black plastic. Why'd you wove that? I also don't use black plastic. What do you think I'm gonna say? It started out weird and now it's just giving people license to say wild shit.

I'm also not gonna use black people. What? What? I'm just worried about the black rubber made things. It's tough. The chopping boards, the plastic chopping boards, did away with that. It's all wood now.

Wood, kitchen utensils, wood, cutting boards, I'm all in on that. I am a little worried about the no stick frying pan because it's got a little, I read something, two million microplastics. But you still need a plastic straw. Yes, that I do. Oh, oh ridiculous go back to paper straws I mean plastic straws sound like us in Canada well you know what that's don't get me started on

that by the way put on the pole there are no turtles in Montreal put on your part of fat you approve of the price hike of eggs because I defend the price hike of eggs okay I defend the price hike of eggs okay I'm in Publix the other day I wander by the egg aisle I see the eggs are I think $6.49 or $5.99 or something. sizeable hike warranted okay respect the chicken they do a lot of work you know I mean eggs eggs are you can cook them four or five different ways, they're all great.

Eggs have been underpriced for years. Let's quit complaining about the price of eggs. I think the price is up because there's like a bird flu and they have to kill a bunch of the chickens so there's less supply. Yeah, but that doesn't start with the chickens, right? Really? The bird flu emanates from non-chicken birds flying overhead, dropping all their stuff, and that infects the chickens. Chickens get a bad rep. People think bird flu started with chicken.

What did it start with? It starts with... Magill will back me up on this. Not today. It's not in today. Okay, you got a crow flying overhead. The crow takes a shit. the crow has bird flu, he takes a dump, it hits a chicken, or the chicken pecks the dung on the ground after it heats up a little bit. Classic chicken or an egg situation it sounds like. Yeah, right. Mike's chicken. Ha!

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