The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Doggy On a Tuesday (feat. Chris 'Mad Dog' Russo)

Episode Date: January 20, 2025

Chris "Mad Dog" Russo stops by after a wild weekend across sports, but first, we need to learn about his visit to the premiere of 'A Complete Unknown' in London with Timothée Chalamet. Mad Dog, Stugo...tz, and Mike Ryan dive into Novak Djokovic's win over Carlos Alcaraz this morning as the best sports podcast in America breaks out around us. Then, Mad Dog's take on Dan calling Mark Andrews immortal, how he feels about Lamar Jackson's playoff performances, why he's sick of the Kansas City Chiefs, and how Ryan Day found a way to avoid being fired. Plus, who is the Ravens best offensive player during this century? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:49 And for more heartburn relief fun, be sure to follow Tums at Tums official on Instagram and Tik TOK. Welcome to the big suey presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not gonna apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.
Starting point is 00:02:13 I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face and the habitual liar. Look at this! Doggie on a Tuesday! Doggie on a Tuesday! Can't even fix his hair! Too busy running from Hollywood
Starting point is 00:02:36 premiere to Hollywood premiere because first take is giving him a second life. Last Tuesday in London you'd be amazed. My hair was freaking frozen. Okay. I am mortified by your general behavior of being Maximum Stugots, getting near the fame and demanding that Timothy Chalamet, whatever his name is, I can't pronounce his first name, it's the first name I have trouble with because it's not Timothy. Timothy. It's not Timothée.
Starting point is 00:03:02 It's Timothée. Get over yourself. Okay, well that's the thing. It's not Timothée. It's Timothée. Get over yourself. Okay, well that's the thing. It's Tammy. Mad Dog, you got to the top, you got to the top and you immediately started calling in favors and then Chalamet's got to give you an audience. And then you get the audience.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Shameless, embarrassing. It was, but I enjoyed it. I can guarantee you that, baby. Listen, I did that thing on first take and I had done the complete unknown stuff for a while because I love the promos, I love Dylan and everything else. But when I went on air on January 2nd, I said, okay, let's do a Mad About
Starting point is 00:03:37 and let's do a Mad About about me about how I couldn't get a seat to the premier. In New York on December you know eight 17th or 18th somehow some way they didn't search like didn't think of me and so I said let's have fun with that obviously first take loves it when you're being made fun of instead of me making fun of everybody else and lo and behold four days later search like cause Jill driven Joe driving, my agent, one of them, and says, listen, how would he like to go to Rome with the premieres?
Starting point is 00:04:07 One of them. In Europe. So it was London, it was Paris, and it was Rome, and I looked at the calendar, looked at when the football games were, Rome was a Friday, so I didn't want to go there because I missed the NFL. Wednesday, Paris, I thought maybe the Q&A would be in French,
Starting point is 00:04:23 so I wouldn't hear that properly. So that's why I picked London. I flew over there last Monday, took my daughter who was 24 on Wednesday, and lo and behold, Chalamet did an absolutely tremendous job. And forget me. You're bought and paid for. You're bought and paid for.
Starting point is 00:04:41 No, I'm gonna argue about that. I'm bought and paid for. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, I'm bought and paid for. Embrace it, doggy. And Bob Dylan would hate what you're doing. Where you're, he would hate what you're doing. Well, he hates what everyone's doing. He hates what Chalamet's doing.
Starting point is 00:04:51 And you're out here endorsing, you laundering Chalamet for Bob Dylan, because they can buy you, it's embarrassing. But we'll get to that in a second. I wanna play the sound for you, and the audience of you using your platform shamelessly to just curry favor with the famous so that your daughter can get cool things here. It's not objectivity and it's wrong and it needs to be called out.
Starting point is 00:05:16 It's good parenting though. Yeah, yeah, that's it. Last Thursday, I had a waiting line in that cold weather at that Royal Theater in Norwalk. They don't know me. I think yeah, but you're right back I had a sick. That's the worst. I couldn't pick up the phone and say you know what the guys and any of these folks out of that said allowed he's talking about us but said a lot of the
Starting point is 00:05:45 tickets so we can go off in here on the west side of Manhattan. I was invited and not. And it shows me at 65 years of age that I have we know he doesn't have any power wish on the way hot stuff. Those that I have no power. Shows that I have no power. Ha ha again, I don't like what you've become late in your career here, where you are simply trafficking
Starting point is 00:06:33 in all of the powers that you have to do things that satiate only you and your ego. Dog's been doing this his entire career. I know, it's great. It's been wonderful to see it have a resurgent, where resurgent's so strong that he just got done casually saying, one of my agents, one of my agents.
Starting point is 00:06:53 How many agents do you have Russo and my agents? When they work together, I wanted to give Joe the credit because they call time. You are funny, Leopard Todd, you are funny. You are funny. But anyway, little bit of, I know after I did that, a day or so later, Chalamet spoke called Shirts Light.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Let's get him a couple tickets to one of our premieres. So I went and I wasn't going to take my daughter. I was going to take my youngest son, who loves movies, and he goes to Loyola Maramount, but he's mad that I got Chalamet and he didn't, so he didn't want to do it. So that's where Kira Russo came in. And there is the shot of Charlemagne. And the nicest guy in the world, Stu got, look at that!
Starting point is 00:07:33 That's the nicest guy in the world. And oh, what a nice kid. And forget me, he signed every autograph for those fans who line that red carpet. He took pictures. He grasped the idea. He on the set or on the stage before the movie was presented.
Starting point is 00:07:52 He did a great job, talked about the LA fires. I mean, I can't tell you how, and then he's doing Saturday Night Live this week, as you guys know. So I can't tell you how good he did. What a nice kid. What a nice kid. Doggie Djokovic, huh?
Starting point is 00:08:04 Oh, I know. Yeah. I got up at 515 to watch. You know, he lost the first set and he was right in the middle of the first set. He had to take a medical time out because he heard his groin. He came back in the second set, got a little more aggressive. Alcres is a little off and Djokovic just he had a great second serve. He much more offensive than normal. He got a little off and Djokovic just he had a great second serve. He much more offensive than normal.
Starting point is 00:08:26 He got a little healthier. That's a hell of a win. 37 years of age beating Alcares in four sets, winning three in a row. Now he's in the semifinals of Australia, which is one 10 times. We're getting off the beaten path, but that's a hell of a win. Well, you're not getting off the beaten path, but he's got this. Mad Dog still has a good ear for this. He knows when the audience wants 45 seconds of Mad Dog
Starting point is 00:08:50 and when they want 25 seconds of Mad Dog on a subject. But I do think it's fair to say that you might be the country's preeminent voice on tennis in this sphere. And so what you just saw this morning that still gets you up at five o'clock in the morning, you just saw a champion do what great, great champions do and push back youth by going and summoning his own,
Starting point is 00:09:13 even though he's injured. And you just saw Jokovic throw back on somebody who's young and coming for his job with, no, I'm better than anyone who played in my era. I'm the best there's ever been. 100% Dan, remember he beat him in Paris when he won the Olympic gold medal which he really wanted to do. He won in straight sets and tiebreak sets took three hours on the clay. He did not win a major last year Djokovic. He lost uh you know he didn't win he got to some finals but he lost. Obviously Alcares beat him in two straight Wimbledon finals Alcares is an all-timer he's gonna be and Alcares handled himself great today I mean even after he lost
Starting point is 00:09:49 he's a very very cool guy he's a good loser and Djokovic did a hell of a job I mean I you know he offense he had some offense today he served big and in one of the sets he was up 3-0 I think was the third set at its set of piece he was up 3-0 lost three straight games and you figured alright he's had his little run now he's dead and he hung on the window set so I give him a lot of credit he plays Zverev next in one of the semi-finals he's still got to beat Sinner who was on the other side of the draw that will be absolutely tricky it's amazing Dan how you went from Chalamet, red carpet London, to Melbourne,
Starting point is 00:10:29 Portofano's Djokovic. I get, talk about transition. That's out of the top of your park. That's a little, great talk. Russo, it's one of the greatest compliments you could give as a host for all time to tell me that I am doing this correctly. I will have you know,
Starting point is 00:10:42 that as you were talking about tennis, I i brought us yes you brought it to tennis i will give you your credit a moment if you give me just a second i will tell your idle about the good thing that you did that's where i was headed uh... as you were talking stew gots was saying in my ear i couldn't even hear you this is how he does it baby this is how the music plays he goes to the resume and shows you how uh... he knows off the top of his head all of this person's credentials and then he dismounts and he's a gymnast for all time Stu gots was doing play-by-play on
Starting point is 00:11:13 what it is that you were saying because he's enjoyed your tennis analysis for 30 years doggy I was telling Dan right before you gave credit to Alcaraz he's gonna give credit to Alcarraz. How about that? He did, he knew. Really? You know me too well. He's got the scouting report on you. He could do it.
Starting point is 00:11:29 I would love to have Stugatz play by play that you could hear on how well he can do you for you. Because- Oh, I know that. I'm well aware. He follows me. I gotta be careful with him because he's, I know might be a little strong then but
Starting point is 00:11:46 I'm a sports fan first and so you know I haven't watched that much the Australian open yet because it's been a week earlier this year which means it's in the middle of all the football so I've stayed away I'll be on top of it this week you know Djokovic plays out glass he's 37 years of age how many more times is he gonna get a chance to be on this stage you know I know P Mac fairly well he's calling a match Fowler will be there for the weekend by the way I know P Mac fairly well I needed to get up and 515 is better than 330 because there was a match before so I was juiced. I kept my eyes open and I was there right away. And listen, it's a big weekend.
Starting point is 00:12:27 You had four good NFL games. You had a college championship. You had, you know, you got an Australian Open Final. Buffalo, Kansas City should be great on Sunday afternoon. Daniels is great. You know, it's a good time of the year in sports. Danny, as you know, it's a good time of the year. I again will present to you and the audience though,
Starting point is 00:12:44 is anyone in your life, any family, any friends, with you in sports, Danny, as you know. It's a good time with you. I, again, will present to you and the audience, though. Is anyone in your life, any family, any friends, saying to you, Mad Dog, the way you've been compromised on this Bob Dylan movie offends us from the 1970s, you're shilling on behalf of Bob Dylan's movie in a way Bob Dylan would find unbecoming. He hated Hollywood this way. That is fair. Now, Dylan does like shall amaze performance he put that
Starting point is 00:13:07 we got and i don't want to come across as is doing expert there are a lot more people all the new york not more about doing and i do any call me your new york met guy from that day and is one my buddy shawna gandhi mister but i love the songs have you seen a movie about what you guys have you seen i have a see i've not now i have no desire to see it or you're going to get But I love the songs. Have you seen the movie yet, by the way, both of you guys? Have you seen them or not? I haven't seen it. I have not. No.
Starting point is 00:13:27 You have no desire to see it or are you going to get around to it? Not a big Dylan fan. Got to be honest, though. Wow. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, listen, the movie's great.
Starting point is 00:13:36 I was really impressed with the London audience. They laughed at the right spots. You know, outside of me having to go to the bathroom and calling over nine million people in the middle of it. What happened there? What happened? Did you lose your seats? I know, you know, they gave me the seats in the middle of the theater, Kira and I.
Starting point is 00:13:55 So I said to myself, this is going to be dangerous. The movie's 220. I had to sit there through the little prelim with the three actors, Monica Barbaro, Norton and Chalamet. I have to I'm definitely you know I'm 65 years of age you know I get up nine times during the night I knew I was going to be in a situation where I was going to have to crawl over somebody. The seats weren't good enough. I had to pick my spot for English people and I'm crawling over hands and knees you know and I knew
Starting point is 00:14:24 where the movie kind of slowed up. So I picked a spot to do it. And then I saw the conclusion of the movie again in the back of the theater. Anyway, loved every minute of it. He does a great job. And you know, I love the songs. Also authentic.
Starting point is 00:14:39 It did not disappoint. Now be fair, Dan, be fair. When I started on this little complete unknown rampage I did it five or six months ago. I did not do it with the idea well let me do this enough times and somebody from the movie will find out about it and as a result I'll get preferential treatment. That was the furthest thing from my mind. Now it worked out that way but that was the thought to fair, and I'd be the first to tell you if I did this with a pre-plan, but that was not my plan going in. Not my plan. I gotta be fair. It wasn't my plan. Doggie, just before you came on, we were talking some of the legends of
Starting point is 00:15:16 the game, the immortals, as Dan put it, and he called Mark Andrews an immortal. In terms of tight ends. Do you rank them as an immortal? I may have gotten, not after Sunday. I don't know. Oh no. And you know, can you meet the media after the game guys? You know, when you drop a fumble and you drop a big pass before the Jackson's fumble and then you drop the two point conversion, can you meet the media after the game?
Starting point is 00:15:41 I mean, is that asking too much? Put it on the pole, put it on the pole. Hey Mark Andrews, can you meet the media? the game? I mean, is that asking too much? Just like, face the music. Put it on the poll, put it on the poll, Choo Choo. Hey, Mark Andrews, can you meet the media? Is that asking too much? Say it to me, say it to somebody. I remember Diggs last year after he dropped that pass, which probably would have won a game against Kansas City for Buffalo, he didn't meet the media either.
Starting point is 00:15:58 These guys are hot stuff. They meet the media and they put everything out when they do well, but when they do badly, they don't meet the media. They are hot stuff. They are hot stuff. Ah, drives me crazy. What would you have asked, dog? What would you have asked him? and they put everything out when they do well, but when they do badly, they don't mean it. That's right. They are hot stuff. Ah, drives me crazy. What would you have asked, are you?
Starting point is 00:16:07 What would you have asked him? You know, I would have been nice about it. I wouldn't have been. You know, it was his first fumble of the year. I thought the fumble at midfield was worse than a two point conversion. And I say that because I think at the, even if he caught it 140 to go
Starting point is 00:16:27 Buffalo two timeouts Bass had already made a 51 yard field goal I think Buffalo probably would have gone down the field and maybe win the game with a field goal but the fumble at 24 19 if he doesn't and they score and let's see go up three they would have been no worse than overtime. So I thought the fumble that midfield actually was worse than the draft two-point conversion myself and you know let's give Jackson credit you know I mean he did have the two turnovers but he drove his team down the field he was he was about to have to give him credit? Do we have? And I don't know I've been anti-jacks. I think we don't rate it a little bit Do we have to give him credit cuz Andrews didn't catch the ball do we have to give him credit I
Starting point is 00:17:15 Think we do Dan because of the drive if they did not go down the field and score and they ended up losing a game 2719 I think we were a lot more critical and they ended up losing the game 27-19. I think we were in a lot more critical the fact that he got the game tied with a minute and a half to go after a bad first half I think you got to give him credit. Now is he as good as Mahomes? No. Is he as good as Allen? No. Is he as good as Burrow? No. I don't think he's as good as Stafford, but... He's a two-time MVP, doggy. But he's three and five in a postseason.
Starting point is 00:17:49 That's right. You tell him, doggy. So was Peyton Manning, though, and I was arguing the whole time, while it was happening, that he was as good as Brady. He's not. He's not. Is it possible Jim Harbaugh, or sorry, John Harbaugh's just not that great of a coach? You know, the fact that Tony Romo, for the second time in a month, went on the air on Sunday to tell us that Harbaugh is an all-time top, whatever it might be, coach. Tony, have you heard of Belichick?
Starting point is 00:18:17 Have you heard of Lombardi? Have you heard of Parcells, Gibbs, Paul Brown, George Hallis, Bill Walsh, have you heard of Andy Reed? Have you heard of some of these guys? I mean, that is outlandish. I mean, Harbaugh's done a good job. One Super Bowl, though. One Super Bowl. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:18:34 He's been to one Super Bowl in 15 years, 18, 20 years. Let's take it easy. Let's please take it easy. And I'll tell you right now, I am so sick of Kansas City. If I see Caitlin Clark or Taylor Swift one more time in that freaking suite, I'm gonna go throw up. And if Mahomes gets one more call,
Starting point is 00:18:55 the whole chief organization gets nothing but calls. How the hell did they call those two roughing the passers? And then Mahomes is mocking the officials by trying to get a third call by dancing out of bounds and see if he can figure out a way to get another 15 free yards that was a disgrace on Saturday afternoon and I'm not saying Kansas City won the game because of that but they got a field goal in the first third and they roughing the passer on Will Anderson which is an awful call and then they got the second one when he was pretending to go out of bounds. Didn't. And they gave him another 15 yards, which led to a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:19:31 The NFL should be embarrassed with the amount of falls that Kansas City gets year after year after year. It drives. I don't know how you feel about it. I am chieft out. It drives me crazy. It drives me. I want to ask you, because I am someone, having done this for a very long time, but not as long as you. Oh yes, you've done it a long time.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Who marvels at your general stamina. The question I wanna ask you is, does your family get annoyed by how much you just cared about what you were just talking about? They, you know what they care about? The volume of the voice. That's what they care about. When I get into it and go loud,
Starting point is 00:20:13 that's when everybody, and my poor wife, and remember I'm an empty nester right now, and my poor wife gets it, can you calm down a minute? But it's your passion, but Russo, it's the fuel in the furnace at the end that makes all of the economy grow Until that he has two agents. I
Starting point is 00:20:29 Can't two agents is a little For Sandy Montag You said it dog I didn't make that correction, you made that correction. I don't have any agents. You should have an agent for the career that you got. Anyway, yeah, so the world, at least me, is gonna root like hell for Buffalo on Sunday night.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Oh, I don't wanna see Chief Seagulls again, please. Please, whatever you can do. Wow, what's up? I just bought and financed a car through Carvana in minutes. I want to see Chief Seagulls again, please. Please, whatever you can do. Wow. What's up? I just bought and financed a car through Garvana in minutes. You? The person who agonized four weeks over whether to paint your walls egg shell or off-white
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Starting point is 00:22:08 I have an idea. What? Let's do a toast. Okay, oh wow. To football. Really? Yeah, me and you, let's toast football. So just a toast, so we're raising our glasses.
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Starting point is 00:23:29 Billy. Yes? You know what we've been talking about all season long? Smyrnaf? Yeah, how'd you guess? I knew it. I'm a good guesser. You are.
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Starting point is 00:23:51 We're old. I'm old. Hey, you know what, Stugatso, I was thinking. Yes. Since football season's winding down, Super Bowl's coming up, Super Bowl 59, we've been celebrating football all year. I have an idea.
Starting point is 00:24:03 What? Let's do a toast. Okay. Oh wow to football really Yeah, me and you let's toast football. So just a toast so we're raising our glasses Yeah, glasses up. Yeah. All right, and we are toasting to football to football to football everyone What we love about Smirnoff is that you can get the world's number one vodka without breaking the bank This feeling is what the good folks over at Smirnoff call. Billy, you want to take a stab at this? Let me guess. Smirnoff's extraordinary?
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Starting point is 00:25:26 come playoff time. I wanna see the Chiefs. Oh, Stugats. I want Patrick Mahomes strolling into my stadium with max confidence. I want Travis Kelcey. I want Taylor Swift. I want the team that lost to Jordan Love.
Starting point is 00:25:42 I want the team that lost to Aiden O'Connell. I want the team that trailed 17 to nothing to Jake Browning. That is the team that I would like to face in the playoffs. That's the team, indeed, that I would want to face in the playoffs because that team is not very good. This is the Don LeBattar Show with the StGuardz. What do you want? What do you want? I want to root for Washington. What do you want? He wants Bills Washington.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Jaden Daniels is the best rookie quarterback since blank. That's a good question. Let me think. Since I was a kid, I've been a rookie quarterback. I've been a rookie quarterback since I was a kid. I've been a rookie quarterback since I was a kid. I've been a rookie quarterback since I was a kid. I've been a rookie quarterback since I was a kid.
Starting point is 00:26:15 I've been a rookie quarterback since I was a kid. I've been a rookie quarterback since I was a kid. I've been a rookie quarterback since I was a kid. I've been a rookie quarterback since I was a kid. I've been a rookie quarterback since I was a kid. I've been a rookie quarterback since I was a kid. I've been a rookie quarterback since I was a kid. I've been a rookie quarterback since I was a kid.
Starting point is 00:26:23 I've been a rookie quarterback since I was a kid. I've been a rookie quarterback since I was a kid. I've been a rookie quarterback since I was a kid. I've been a rookie quarterback since I was a kid. I've been a rookie quarterback since I was a kid. I've the best rookie quarterback since blank. That's a good question. Let me think since ever. I mean he has played so well. God he's good. No mistakes in the postseason. I'd have to go back and look what Luckman did. I'd have to go Brady didn't win as a rookie. did Manny. Marino? Marino came in late, but that was, was that his second year when I got to the Super Bowl? It was his second, right Danny? Yeah, but I thought that he came in
Starting point is 00:26:51 at the beginning of that season and immediately showed us, oh, holy shit, no one learns the position that quickly. You rarely see it that obviously, Ruto. Good point. Marino would be the other person, but listen, Daniel, Marino didn't make the championship game his first year. That was his second year when they got the Super Bowl in 85 because he came out of the
Starting point is 00:27:09 83 draft. This kid is doing it his rookie year. He had all those starts in college. I give them a chance on Sunday. You know, hurts his injury is going to be interesting and the Buffalo Kansas City game is fascinating. I thought McDermott was very conservative late in the second half or really the whole second half on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:27:29 He's not going to have to, he can't do that this week. He's got to be as aggressive as hell. And let's, I don't know how you feel about it. I've had enough of the Chiefs. Let's play for the Bills on Sunday. Play for the Bills. Doggie, I looked up Sid Luckman's rookie year. He threw for 636 yards.
Starting point is 00:27:44 How about Sammy Boss? How about Sammy Boss? Don't do this. We don't want to do that show. What do you mean? What else has you maximum fired up today? You just went through the litany of all the things in sports you love. You got a three-day long weekend and a whole lot of football in it. So you come out raring this this work week thinking about what most passionately? I did a show yesterday because of all the games. Yeah, I guess I guess the other thing
Starting point is 00:28:15 would be this. How about these Ohio State fans who for weeks wanted Ryan Day basically run out of town because he lost to Michigan when they were already in the tournament. And then in fact they win four in a row in convincing fashion and play great doing it. And now all of a sudden, you know, he's the incarnate of Woody Hayes. You talk about a bunch of phonies
Starting point is 00:28:38 and you talk about those Buckeye fans who think in this era when the end game is more important than any regular season game, nobody at Ohio State or Ann Arbor should care that much about Ohio State Michigan. The idea is to win in the postseason. That is the idea. And that is what Ohio State,
Starting point is 00:28:58 I'll ask an Ohio State fan this, would they rather have beaten Michigan the Saturday after Thanksgiving and not have a flag planted at midfield? Yes. Or would they rather have had that or rather have gotten blown out by Tennessee? No, they'd be fine. Which one they want.
Starting point is 00:29:15 That's fine. They would have taken the win over Michigan. It's a tainted championship, doggy. They didn't beat Michigan. I mean, I would respect Ohio State fans more if they still fired Ryan Day, honestly. Oh, come on. the Michigan game means nothing. Oh, because he can't win it. Because he can't win that game.
Starting point is 00:29:28 That's the game. He can't do it, doggy. Doggy, last year, Michigan won the national championship and beat Ohio State. Put it on the poll, did you shoot Ohio State? I'll bet you, I'll grant you it would be a touch sweeter if the Michigan win was part of this run, but the bottom line is, in my eyes, the four game run is far significant to losing to Michigan, who cares?
Starting point is 00:29:52 One last question from Stu Gotz, but just put it on the poll for me, JuJu, at LeBotard Show, should Ohio State fire Ryan Day anyway? At LeBotard Show. Speaking of phony fan bases, doggy, how about the Philadelphia Eagle fan base? I mean, this is a fan base who wanted to fire Nick Sirianni. All Sirianni has done, has made it to the postseason,
Starting point is 00:30:12 his first four seasons as the Eagles head coach. Only Eagles head coach to do that in the history of the organization. He has brought them to a Super Bowl, a play away from beating Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes. Now he's back in the NFC Championship game and this fraudulent fan base wanted to fire this head coach who might be the best head coach in Eagles history, dog.
Starting point is 00:30:33 They wanted to fire him seven weeks ago. I'm not a big Surrionny fan, but you're making an excellent point. And now that's Dugatsch, they play hard for him. You know, Barclay likes him. He made the right decision not playing him in week 18 against the Giants, which nobody cared about. That was a, obviously a big performance by Barkley
Starting point is 00:30:51 on those big running plays. He's got a banged up quarterback. He's done a good job revamping that defense with Fangio. You guys know him well. And the Eagle fan also, I had a lot of calls yesterday telling me, well, you know, I was never worried sunday that i wanted what do you crazy i mean a ramps had a first down at that's what he wanted to know i'm not going to have a lot with about the way they gave up and you'll not be worried for crying out loud well i want
Starting point is 00:31:16 to ask you though when when still got says what he says never mind seven weeks ago uh... in the last five minutes of that game eagles fans wanted to fire serian again like that's it that that is where the expectations are for that team dot you've seen this so many times right i mean that fan base is crazy to begin with but now give it the expectations of championships give it all you we can win one with our backup quarterback and we can be so much better
Starting point is 00:31:43 than everyone they've got an offensive line that malls people they're trying to win felt football the old-fashioned way and those fans are the craziest as most rugged in the sport a j brown better not read something on the sidelines they're not stalking they were not fifteen years ago they were not thirty years ago this is the most nuts they've been to have this particular team representing them and they don't trust their meat head coach They don't because they don't they spoil they got spoiled on Andy Reid and they got spoiled on the idea of we deserve to be In the championship game you read who won nothing for them. Nothing. Yeah. Well, I got that you got to the one-two-one in one FC championship
Starting point is 00:32:19 Yeah, those fans are tricky. I completely agree It's a very fickle fan base or fan bases are up and down but they're you know they're beyond crazy with being up and down and again they he has to win it all. I think him and McDermott have a lot of pressure on him. I think McDermott has to beat the Chiefs you can't go all in for against Kansas City in postseason I think that's a it's not as much pressure on Allen she's played well against Kansas City in the past that's a lot of pressure on McDermott they have to win the game for him he's gonna get some heat if he doesn't and I think Sirianni as you just said Danny I think Sirianni is gonna have to can't lose to Washington he's his five-point favorite and you know he lost two
Starting point is 00:32:57 years ago again I thought the call was a bad call under the circumstances he probably has to win it so I think those two have the most, Quinn's got no pressure on him, Reid, what are you gonna say, he's won three titles, he's got no pressure on him. The two coaches that need to win in the worst way is Buffalo and Philadelphia. And because that fan base is nuts,
Starting point is 00:33:18 Soriano probably more, they'd be all over him, because they're also a bigger favorite, and they're home home than the Buffalo one But McDermott needs to win this game. It's a big game for McDermott He needs eventually you're gonna have to beat Andy Reid in a big spot and they have lost a lot of playoff games And again great teams have beaten them, but they need to win this year. We shall see He is the leader American needs right now He's the host of Mad Dog on leash weekdays at 3 p.m
Starting point is 00:33:43 Eastern on Sirius XM's Mad Dog Sports Radio, and he is very much Stugatz's idol. Yeah, I looked up Sammy Baugh as well, dog. 1,127 yards is rookie season. What year is that, 38, 39? Yeah, 37, dog. All right, enough with the two of you. He's just showing off his historic muscle from 80 years ago.
Starting point is 00:34:03 See you later, doggy. Thank you. Good job't think that thank you that's the ultimate i was out of the man highest compliment dania good job did it good and i am and swooning swooning with intoxicated delight that he thinks i do this well when we think the next american male to win a grand slam is logjam there doggy here that i You guys, we can bring him back. You guys want to do tennis.
Starting point is 00:34:27 I do believe that Mike Ryan. I believe if we got Doggie on right now, that Mike Ryan and Doggie could do the best five minutes in tennis radio or sports pods you will find anywhere in America or internationally. Possibly the only. That too. The only five minutes.
Starting point is 00:34:44 That's by default. That is, that was a rhetorical trick. That isn't a tennis specific pod, it's us. No, you're wrong because I'm sure there is a community of pods as there is everywhere for things that people care about unreasonably. But it is rare, I will tell you, for Stu Gatz and Mike Ryan to both be shaken by the nipples in the morning
Starting point is 00:35:07 Because they know they're watching historic greatness on the television and you want to be paying attention when you care so much That you know that the care that goes into Rafael Nadal Who's gonna limp through the rest of his life because of God knows what he's done to his feet to try and keep up with these two joke ofokovic and Federer. For Djokovic to still be someone who's in the middle of your dreams, nightmares, making Tuesday morning relevant because you want to see him lose or you want to see him win. But either way, you know you're watching historic greatness. Well, he's the last guy left from that generation. Federer retired, Nadal is done, as you pointed
Starting point is 00:35:44 out. Murray's his coach. last guy left from that generation. Federer retired, Nadal is done. As you pointed out, Murray is coaching him and Djokovic is still playing and not just still playing, playing at the highest of levels. He's 37 and he beat the guy coming for all his stuff, Carlos Alcares, who was 21. He's a better shape than Alcares. It's insane. I wish the match were better, but the reason why we're being grabbed by the nipples and shaken is like, if I tell you, hey, on a Tuesday morning at 7 a.m., Bird and Magic are playing 1v1. It's all-time greatness. Those are probably when it's all said and done, two top five men's tennis players of all time that we just get as a gift here January
Starting point is 00:36:25 Tuesday morning I'll stop on it every time I want to get into with Mike Ryan what is surrounding Mark Andrews because I pulled too hard on the rope and calling him an immortal because I'm trying to protect him I'm trying to shield him for what cometh his way he might be the third best tight end in Raven's history. Yeah, I think so. He's behind Sharpen Heap. I got carried away. I'm sorry for that. Billy and Stugatz immediately jumped to attention.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Immortal. He does need three more good years, though. Totally fair. I just think of him as pretty great, because those guys didn't have as many touchdowns as he had. And he's a really good player. He's fantastic. Like if he puts together like another Olympiad
Starting point is 00:37:09 of what he's done in his career, he's a borderline game guy. Right now his canton grade, according to pro football references, is in the 30s. So he needs a little bit more longevity. I got carried away. Tony Gonzalez is the kind of immortal that I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Correct me if I'm wrong, somebody mentioned this to me, I didn't know if it were so or not, but Bezos' wife is the mother of Tony Gonzalez, I didn't know that until this. Yeah, they weren't married, or they were together, certainly. Tony Gonzalez. Puts Amazon on prime like in a whole new light, doesn't it?
Starting point is 00:37:42 It is interesting, certainly. I've got four years where I'm looking at touchdowns increasing and generally if I tell you who's the best to ever play at that organization, by and large you're going to go to touchdowns for an offensive player who's not a quarterback. It's how you're going to greatness when we think of that team and all-time greatness to gods we think of Ray Lewis at Reed we think of Ed Reed. Yeah Do you do you think of Jamal Anderson when they were? Rugged and Jamal Lewis, Jamal Lewis Forgive me bird. I do not you don't think of like getting close to 2,000 yards playing the Saquon Barkley way?
Starting point is 00:38:27 You think of Flacco? That's who you're thinking of there? When I think of all-time great Ravens, perhaps I should. I just don't. I don't go, yeah, but I think of the defense. I do. I think of that team. I think of the guys who play defense.
Starting point is 00:38:39 If we're doing like name association, it's Ray Lewis, Henry defense. That's their legacy. But offensivelyly I mean Offensively I probably because he was there for so long playing the most important position I'd probably say flacco but Jamal Lewis was more excellent at his job in an individual season than Arguably any well no Lamar Jackson now. Sorry. I'm showing my age Lamar Jackson's probably the offensive player for the reason I bring all of it up is because age lamar jackson's probably the offensive player for the reason i bring all of it up is because quiet as it is kept in america's most popular sport for
Starting point is 00:39:09 twenty years now the greatest of the organizations has been these ravens if not for the stupidity of what the patriots were doing like right largely in terms of general excellence they flip-flop from we were a defensive organization to now we're an offensive organization in both styles punch in the mouth all game jay glazer saying that's a culture of violence that they have over there ricky williams saying when i'm in that locker room with ed reed and uh... ray louis i feel like a bunny rabbit with wolves like you're talking about
Starting point is 00:39:40 the the baltimore ravens if if toughness is something that you feel like you can see, it's been that organization for a quarter century, for as long as the Patriots have been here and they've done, do I have this wrong? Like when- I mean, the Steelers have won more Super Bowls than the Ravens at that time
Starting point is 00:39:57 and they haven't had a losing season. I don't think anyone thinks that they've been dominant, but they've done as much postseason, if not more postseason, winning than the Ravens. But the reason I bring it up is because I remember the Dolphin team that was 11 and 5 got carried away with itself had a home playoff game and the Ravens came in here and ransacked them with that defense because when I think of Ravens being great at football I think defense the last six weeks of this season when they moved Kyle Hamilton to
Starting point is 00:40:21 safety they had the number one defense in the sport. And they fall at the end, but whether your expectations are the Steelers or the Ravens, the Ravens have been close to the best for 25 years, competitive in the conversation. They've certainly been in the conversation. They're one of the better organizations in the NFL. They just don't win enough. More than the other teams even. I regard, I don't know, who do you regard as better over the last 25 years? Maybe that's how you do the measurement. Just Super Bowl's and nothing else.
Starting point is 00:40:49 And I can say winning and nothing else, because Tomlin's on the hot seat in a way that Harbaugh's not, because he doesn't get this far to the expectations being here anymore. He gets to the first round and that's when he's done and they're fed up with that. But the Ravens are done in the second round. But they've been to the Super Bowl,
Starting point is 00:41:04 they played the Patriots. Well they've won a Super Yeah, but they've been to the Super Bowl, they played the Patriots. Well, they've won a Super Bowl, they should have went to another Super Bowl. Lee Evans had that drop in New England. So they're, like, the Ravens are one of the better organizations. Yes, the problem is they've won just one Super Bowl. All right, put it on the poll at LeBataard Show.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Who's been better the last 25 years, Steelers or Ravens? And remarkably sports question, but I regard the Ravens as better, I may have it wrong, I regard Mark Andrews as somebody who doesn't drop the ball. I looked up Mark Andrews here on Pro Football Reference in the Hall of Fame Monitor number, I don't know if you're familiar with this,
Starting point is 00:41:37 the average Hall of Fame Monitor number for a tight end is 97. Mark Andrews Hall of Fame monitor number is 31.13. He got carried away there. Does it have the fine for not listening? As Steve Morton also. You guys have me as Mark Andrews isn't a Hall of Famer? You guys think Mark Andrews is-
Starting point is 00:41:58 He said he's an immortal. He's gotta put together four more years. That measurement that you just gave me is for immortals, is it not? That's the measurement. You're trying to give me an immortal meter, were you not? Sure. Are we enforcing not listening fines or are we not?
Starting point is 00:42:15 He's like a third of his way to immortal. It's Tuesday, fines are doubled. I mean, how about that? Well, no, it's opposite days. I think Tuesday's opposite days, so I get paid. It's a Tuesday that feels like a Monday. $7, dude. I'm not paying that.
Starting point is 00:42:29 I'll pay when Lucy does. So I'm not doing it this way. I'm not having the sponsor disrespected this way. This is Venmo, and the Venmo fine bucket must be respected. And so therefore, you and I are going to have to pay our fines. Well, I Venmo'd it already. $7. It's been sent. I need to know, though. I haven't used the Venmo yet. I feel like these fines should be at scale
Starting point is 00:42:50 You deserve a fine for you deserve a fine for just its Tuesday. It's opposite day. Like that's what it was You deserve a fine for that Fine print it does say fines are doubled on Tuesdays, but it only applies to Greg So it's just $7 for not listening because we did the whole pro football reference Hall of Fame score thing. But sports immortals, man, I'm really hung up on this because that's reserved for like Roberto Clemente,
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