The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Don Van Natta Jr. & Boban Marjanović (feat. Well... Both of Those Guys)

Episode Date: July 24, 2025

DVN is here to provide us with the details on what really matters regarding Pablo and his reporting of the NFL Players Union scandal, but will Zaslow earn his respect? And when Boban joins us, we have such an incredible time that Dan Le Batard — yes, our Dan Le Batard — stays away from grief eating. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Welcome to the Big Sui presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries. If they're just there, that hasn't happened to you guys. I've done it.

And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face and the habitual liar. The answer was always the same when I was texting my friends, hey, what's gonna happen here with the head of the players union? What do you think will happen when it was still uncertain

about everything that's happening with him? Is it about what Pablo Torre found out, or is it about what's about to come out? And I told you it was the strip club. I told you it was the reporting about the strip club, and I told you that he was trying to save everything, and then it all changed, and he's like, oh, Van Nata's sniffing around.

Van Nata's asking questions, then all of a sudden he shut everything down. So Pablo smoked it out, but Van Nata made him quit. sniffing around then i was asking questions and all of a sudden he shut everything down so pablo smoked it out but then not a maiden quit uh... don van out of the political prize winner joins us now and he's very busy the senior writer for he has been and he continues to investigate all of uh... this stuff uh... this is just the beginning isn't it done this is about you guys now that you guys are sniffing around is about to get a whole lot worse

absolutely dan great to see uh... it you it will get worse because there's a federal criminal investigation going on in Brooklyn looking very closely at the NFLPA and the MLBPA. That's how I got started in this. I want to set the record straight a little bit about Pablo. Pablo did get that 61 page collusion ruling which certainly intensified our investigation. But a month prior to that, Jeff Passon and I broke a story at ESPN that the NFLPA and the MLBPA are under criminal investigation for One Team Partners, which is this company that was co-founded by the two unions and Redbird Capital looking into financial irregularities

there. So that's when I first started getting interested, but no doubt when Pablo got that 61 page collusion ruling that the union, literally Lloyd Howell tried to bury with a confidentiality agreement that we reported with the NFL, then from that moment we did that story, I think it was nine days from that story to when we found out about the strip clubs and what how resigned it was uh... was quite quick what would you uh... tell us

is most important for the audience to know about your most recent reporting well the story that we did yesterday the caitlin taylor and i did is a deep dive uh... more three thousand words that takes you inside how would help got his job he was elected in the most secretive process in union history. The architect of that secret process was J.C. Treder. J.C. Treder was a former NFLPA president who then Lloyd Howell made,

he created a new job for him actually called Director of Strategy. And interestingly, Treder, as Director of Strategy, knew nothing about the collusion ruling and a lot of other things that were going on that Lloyd Howell was keeping from the players. So, Dan, you had a secretive election that put Lloyd Howell in the job,

and then many decisions, as we laid out in our story yesterday, that Howell made kept the players in the dark, not just about the collusion ruling, but even after he got his job. And details came out about his previous work at Booz Allen, where he was the CFO and in charge of that company when there was one of the largest fraud cases of over billing of the federal government. After he got his job, just three weeks later, a settlement was set

between Booz Allen and the federal government, $377 million fine was paid by Booz Allen. And a month later, the Washington Post reported that a whistleblower at Booz Allen brought all this alleged fraud turned out to be fraud right on the desk of Lloyd Howell. And he said, nothing to see here. All that came out just within a few weeks of Howell getting his job, a top union lawyer

wanted to tell the player reps who had just voted Lloyd Howell in that information, and they were never told. So time and again, inside the union, players, membership even the leadership even jc treader Didn't know what was going on And so that's I think one of the biggest takeaways of yesterday's story that cailin and I did zazz is a radio legend He's an entertainer. I feel that he's getting a little bit bored when we get into the weeds here on some of this stuff So vanada, can you please impress? Uh zazz and chris cody with like what are the here on some of this stuff. So Vanada, can you please impress Zaz and Chris Cody

with like, what are the dirtiest parts of this story? Like what's coming next? Given the dirty stuff, like impress us with, instead of union talk, try to entertain. You old timey print journalists guys, like do a little clown dance for us and tell us, where's the dirtiest shit? What's the worst of it and what's coming next?

Certainly the strip club stuff, which we absolutely have to talk about because that was really the end of Lloyd Howell's tenure I had been hearing about a week earlier that he was going to strip clubs Taking employees at the NFL PA to strip clubs during events and started chasing it And literally in the course of just a few hours, last Thursday afternoon, we heard a lot of details about it, particularly the one which to me is one of the most astonishing things I've ever come across in my career. Lloyd Howell flew to Fort Lauderdale International Airport at 1036, got into a car hired by the union,

and the car took him directly to Tootsie's Cabaret. Let me tell you what Tootsie's Cabaret is if you don't know. It's in Miami Gardens Florida. Oh we know. It's the biggest. It's the biggest. It's the largest in the world. That's what they call themselves. We know. That's right. 76,000 square feet. You're not impressing them, Prince Guy. Listen, the entertainers know what you're talking about. Okay. And Chris Cody and Zaslow too. All right. Well, what we found out, which Lloyd Howell, I don't think knew that we knew this, is that the car sat outside while he was in there through the night for seven hours because he got out about 5., and then the car took him to his apartment in Sunny Isles Beach

at 6 PM, or 6 AM. And here's the key to this. This was charged to the union. And I don't think Lloyd Howell knew that we even knew that and had the documents. And when he found that out, he didn't find that out, nor did the executive committee until our story came out the following day. But he knew the bad optics of that as

well as a visit in Atlanta to the Magic City strip club, which is quite famous in Atlanta. Lemon wings, chicken wings. Yeah. Chicken wings are famous, right? There's a lot of rappers love that place. Right. And so those two visits on the expenses of the NFLPA were really the last straw for Lloyd Howell. Dan, that's some chutzpah. $700 plus dollars. It's just this. I thought that was the deal. I swear to you, when it happened, and Van Natta knew this when he wrote it, when I read $700 from Fort Lauderdale

to Miami, and, Vanada, you can take us through this, you submit questions to get to Lloyd Howe that are gonna say, why'd it take eight hours? Why'd you go straight from the airport? And Lloyd Howe picks up the phone, he says, I resign. These are not questions I want. You asked very detailed questions that had him caught on. You spent 800 bucks of union money with a car just sitting outside

A strip club and you went straight from the airport, and it's not a long ride. It's not like it's a schlatt. It's a forty dollar uber That's right, and this is a guy worth a hundred million dollars and a seven hundred dollar receipt Cost him this job that pays him $3.4 million a year. And you're right, Dan, when I called them with those questions, I knew the answers to them because I knew I was going to get the document. I didn't have it yet, but I had it described to me and knew I was going to get it in a matter of a few hours. And Lloyd Howell resigned not knowing I was going to get the document because then he

went into an executive committee meeting, which is also kind of stunning, we reported yesterday. He basically sat down with the 10 guys that elevated him to the job, and they were still all in, begging him not to quit. He told them about the strip club, but not honestly, and he hung in there because I think he probably assumed correctly that we were going to get the receipts, and we got them and published the story the next day.

Can we agree that if you're at the strip club from 10 p.m. until 6 a.m. and you're an adult, you're a loser? I mean, like, just, I mean, what, like, he's supposed to be a professional. Or having a great deal of fun. What about 12 to six? Come on.

Or having a great deal of fun. Eight hours? It is a long time, but have you been to Tootsies? Like, they're not profitable from, I haven't been. They're not profitable from midnight to 8 a.m. because it's not active from midnight to 8 a.m. Is it open 24 hours? Okay, there we go.

Wait, I've lost all my credibility on this issue because I don't know anything about this. It's not open 24 hours, I've heard. Look, again, he wants to go to the strip club on his own time with his own money. I don't care anything about it. It's not open 24 hours. I've heard. Look, again, he wants to go to the strip club on his own time with his own money. I don't care. Nobody cares, right? This is union money.

These are union dues paid for by players that he used for this car service on a Thursday night. Okay. It was a school night and Friday at 6 a.m., the car dropped him off at his place. And so the optics of that clearly were not good. And he knew that and that was it. I wanted to have Don on also to talk about his upcoming book, The Star.

It's going to focus on the life and legacy of Jerry Jones. It's going to be released in 2026. You're about to get a whole lot of Jerry Jones, incidentally, because Netflix is doing a 10-part series on Jerry Jones and the Cowboys and and so I want to talk about that But what else do we need to know here Don? What are the important details the the loot the Union must feel rudderless its players must be furious that you guys continue to embarrass them Players have traditionally I can't remember a time that football players didn't have a problem with the head of this

Union all of them have been problematic to the players How much worse is it now in terms of the Union being unified on? Really being embarrassed by what what you've reported you and Pablo have reported recently. Oh That's a great question. It's clearly the worst crisis in the Union's 68-year history. Dominic Foxworth puts it quite nicely, I think. Well, he said, basically, this has woken everybody up and has gotten a pretty traditionally apathetic rank and file, not just embarrassed, but also wanting to fix it. And it remains to be seen whether they rise to that challenge. They have to find an interim executive director.

I believe they'll do that by the end of this week. But they have to find a permanent executive director, which they will likely do after the Super Bowl. And that choice is really, really important. Look, no ex-player. Dominique Foxworth applied, Matt Schaub applied for this job when Lloyd Howell got it, Kellan Winslow, Sr., the Hall of Famer.

None of those guys even got a real serious look. And Lloyd Howell, formerly of Booz Allen, with this massive fraud investigation, ongoing when they looked at him, he's one of the two finalists. The other is a SAG after guy named David White and none of those former players do. As we know, Gene Upshaw was the last former player to lead the Union and he was a pretty tough guy across the table with those NFL owners.

They respected him. That's the last time I remember this Union having leadership that it felt like it could trust it's not been nothing but mistrust since then trite that's fair and d smith you know we did a profile of demora smith a few years ago he's got a a book coming out that apparently trashes me and says that i'm in the hip pocket event if the loners which is one of the more absurd things you can say about me but

d smith we did a profile the nfl owners looked at D as somebody that they were happy was in that position. They felt they had rolled him and not one, but two CBAs in 2011 and 2020. And the next CBA is still five years away, but it's going to get here very, very quickly. And whoever the players do decide to elevate and choose for the next job has to be somebody who can be equal to the NFL owners that they face in the next CBA. Don, you've done some great reporting over the years on Jerry Jones and I'm wondering what your take is when Kevin Clark says when I look at Jerry Jones,

I think of one thing. If the football gods came down and said Jerry, you get to win the next three Super Bowls. But the catch is you can't do a press conference. He looks at the football gods and says, no deal. I saw, I saw that Kevin said that. I don't agree with that. Let me tell you why. Because Jerry wants the next Super Bowl in such a bad way. He would write a massive check for it because it shows that he as general manager can win a Super Bowl without Jimmy Johnson. And so when he says three, he wants to win the next one. I actually think Jerry would give up that post-game press conference that he loves to do all the time before the camera to win one, not three.

I think he'll win one, and then he would like to go back to all of the press conferences and all of the sitting in front of cameras that he just loves to do. But he really desperately, this is part of his legacy, it's hardwired to that, he wants to win the next one really, really bad. And I think even Jerry would give up being a showman

and being out front if he could get that next Super Bowl. Do you agree with Zazz when he says he does all of the contracts protracted and caves and gives all the guys money because it's all entertainment and he just wants to be in the news. It's just the only explanation I can gather, Don, when he could have paid these guys, you know, like last year and saved money.

No question. I do, Zazz, I agree with you. By the way, I heard what you said earlier. Zazz, I respect you, okay? Even though you're wearing the Goldilocks. No, no, you know what? What is that? What hair is that? What is what?

What is what? You're talking about his new beard? Yeah, I'm a grown up, so I have a beard now, Don. Oh, got it. Okay, anyway, I respect you, Zaz. You're absolutely right. Jerry doesn't mind the extra few million as long as he can be dominating the conversation

when training camp opens. We've seen it year after year. It's part of the formula. Jerry doesn't mind to pay a few extra million dollars to these guys as long as he can dominate the conversation We know you have to go we appreciate the time last question on your way out Who is more famous in South Florida Pulitzer Prize winner Don Van Nata or two-time? Broadcasting champion Jonathan Zaslow or Jonathan Zaslow without a doubt Respect on those respect to you all the way time broadcasting champion Jonathan Zaslow. Jonathan Zaslow without a doubt. Wow. No question.

Respect on the house. Respect to you. Zas all the way. You've got nice teeth. All the way, no doubt. Wow. Thank you. What's going on there?

Okay, put it, what is that? What is that? What is that? Put it on the pole. What's going on there? I'm just saying. I mean, those teeth are very nice. You're going to investigate the investigator

Don't find the receipts for my teeth hold on let's not look for them Don't throw away the journalistic credibility and get reckless Here is something we like to call reckless speculation you get big teeth Whoa, no, no, that's not right that is not right what you just did that they're nice though that's spectacular that was rude rude who's your guy that get him let him go we had art and do they talk a lot about Trump that's not cool what you just did not cool you know what hold on a second because Dan has his dentist that he likes a lot we've got a penalty five minutes major asshole. Goodbye Don. Thank you for being on with us. Not you. We love you Don

Yeah, thanks guys As soon as you said that I saw that poor man like his upper lip moved to cover his teeth because of whatever shame He had about what you just did to him. They're real and they're spectacular. He's still still here Like this at all That was not called for it was uncalled for ridiculous The man has been nice enough to come and be on the show with us. He's a wildly respected person I've loved his work for 30. I have a lot of confidence now because he's super nice to us He makes time for us and Mike does that like that's that's

reprehensible. What a dick. What a schmeckle. He's worse than Dick Sampson. Man, now we got Bobon coming up. This is a fun show. Folks, nothing says summer like long days, clutch plays, and firing off a few bets on the game. With Draft King Sportsbook. Never bet baseball before? Hey, it's easy. Pick a guy to go yard,

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void in Ontario. Bonus bets expire seven days after issuance. For additional terms and responsible gaming resources, see dkng.co.slash audio. Don Lebatard. The hoist captain sloppy. Stugats. Is this chum bucket? This is the Don Lebatard in sloppy. Stugats. Is this Chum Bucket?

This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats. ["The Stugats Show Theme"] Bobon is joining us from where? Because I'm a little bit worried. I'm worried about the connections. I'm worried about how foreign... I was told that we're, there are time zones. Where is he joining us from?

Like a movie set somewhere? I would assume that he's doing press. So I'm gonna imagine, I'm gonna guess he's in New York. Starting a sentence with, I'm worried about how foreign. Yeah. Probably isn't the way you wanna go though. Okay, times, I was worried about time zones. That was a play on for me, Dan, don't worry.

Thank you, Tony. I appreciate it. Well, you know what was not a play on? Well, Mike did. That's not a play on. That's not play right there. Well, we used to have, you know what I missed? I missed the dead fish. Can we do this here at Metal Arch Media? Can we build a contraption that when a dead fish comes and spends, does what happens there, that a dead fish falls from the sky and falls on the table? I just, I'm a little bit embarrassed because Don Van Nata,

as everybody knows, is a mensch. And I didn't like how Mike Ryan treated him at the end there, especially after he said nice things about me. Sites wiped him at the end. I didn't like that. It was just unbelievable. And so anyways, let's move on to other subjects and see if we could do something in the way

of a palate cleanser here before Boban joins us, because I am excited about this. You guys seem to be too. Congratulations to Pablo Torre for being one of the top 100 podcasts of all time. It should have been number one among all of the podcasts ever made. You mean Good Hang with Amy Poehler

that came out in March shouldn't have been on this list? It's made in Delbalmark. Really, really good podcast though, it is great. Podcast called My Dad Wrote a Porno is on there. Top 100? Did you find any that would pass for fake on the list? Did you have any there that,

the top 100 podcasts of all time, that someone out there would say, that's not a real podcast, and then the rebuttal could be, nope, it's one of the top 100 of all time. You haven't heard of it, you're the idiot, not there would say that's not a real podcast in the rebuttal can be not this one of the top one hundred of all time you haven't heard of it you're the idiot not the podcast that she was you haven't heard of it you think that's a fake name your full there have to be some podcasting i mean the tennis podcast i can't believe that's a real thing

why isn't the hockey show on that should point who's on the tennis podcast who's on it why is that why is the tennis podcast who took no time whatsoever to think of a name, couldn't even be bothered? How is that one of the top 100 podcasts of all time if they couldn't even be bothered to think of a name? Trying to find these hosts. You guys know nothing about the tennis podcast.

Let it be known for the audience, we are all just biding time here filibustering waiting for Jordan's boyfriend to be allowed to talk to the media by Jordan to PM. I'm sorry, I called her Jordan. I will learn her name as more news develops. Welcome back, Michael. Do you feel bad about what you did to Don van Nadeer there? Because you should you should feel guilt, you should feel remorse, and these are things that we do

privately on our own or publicly when people are not around. We don't do it when their teeth are in our face and they might be insecure about something. Look, I don't speak truth to power. I say opinions in the video. Wow, I like that. Don Lebatard! We just got to change the language up because challenge just sounds contentious. Let's call it a politely disagree. Ooh, how about this? An oopsie.

There you go. All right, put it on the poll at Lebatard show. Should a challenge be called an oopsie to placate the referee's ego? An oopsie flag. Stoogats. Or the red flag, the challenge flag should not be called a challenge flag

or the flag should say on it Love your butt. Red is also an aggressive color. Very very aggressive. Maybe pink? We should actually, we should have them throw daisies and call them whoopsie daisies. Oh yeah! Whoopsy daisies! Whoopsy daisies!

This is the Don LeBattar Show with the Stugarts. B who can dunk, I believe, without leaving the floor. There aren't, there still aren't very many of those. And he is lovable and a lot of people really like his personality. He is willing to make fun of himself and he's become an action star that was legitimately menacing and fluid when I saw him in the John Wick movies. Like I could not believe, I know he's an athlete,

but that's a whole different thing, to be like a stuntman and to do choreography Meaning he didn't look awkward not never mind awkward He looked like somebody that you wouldn't be wanting to fight in the library like under any means like he looked like somebody who was A killer 87 11 knows how to do action. I mean yeah, but he knew how to do action And I don't know how easy it is to do so he's's here to talk now about Happy Gilmore 2. Happy Gilmore 2, I'm excited. Yes, boy, it's gonna be so funny. Yes, that is gonna be very funny.

We look forward to finding out. Bad Bunny's in it too, you know what I mean? How funny, well, Bonnie? Bob-onnie? I wanna hear all about these things. Bo Ben, it's nice to see you, sir. Thank you for making time for us. Nice to see you guys.

Thank you for everything. Thank you for inviting me. So just, let's start with John Wickick how hard was any of that to do and uh... and was it uncomfortable for you to have to learn how to do all of that or you immediately receptive no there was a there was so perfectly me like the the gimme classes like seven days i'm with the blue but i think my camera something wrong with my camera look great or about't worry about it.

Sorry for that. And I think, same like you practice for the game, same like practice for the basketball, it's like there, they work with you, they make the best person of yourself, like try to, all your strength be the best you can to do it, to be like, to be best person yourself. They help me with all moves, with all boxing,

with all hits, all fake, all book hits. Everything that goes with that, it was so amazing and it's so perfect too, I can learn from the best. And not just fighting, I think, for acting too. And we're just starting, by the way. We're just starting. This is one of the many. This won't be surprising I suppose as a question

and I don't even know if it's anything other than awe but I simply can't believe how large your hands are. You, I, yeah. Jesus! Yeah, like that is. Hey now. How many hours of training take us through the rigor of what you had to do to be an action star fighting Keanu Reeves and John Wick? They say, you want to come, we'll learn how you to fight. And it was like seven days, we come to New York. It was a conversation between us. They want to make like Karin Alvujabar and Bruce Lee.

Same of doubt because he's Bigfoot, he's Big Hands and like obviously I'm my Bigfoot, my Big Hands. And it's of course one of the best action movie like on the world, I can say that. And it was like good choice and opening scene and we practiced it was practicing in New York before shooting seven days, seven days before shooting 45 minutes the work they work great job they like basically do great job with me so I can so I can learn all these tricks all these moves and, and they can make to look pretty good on camera.

But by the way, when you finish that, when you finish this shooting, I watch a small scene that come out. Somebody tagged me. I don't know how, but they have that. They have that. When somebody tagged you on Instagram to say, oh, this guy is not bad. And I look at my moves. I was in Philadelphia 76 at that time.

I was in locker room next to Tobias. And I like, hey, Toby, look at this. I don't look bad at all. And I didn't expect, I didn't expect it would be like that, but they come out, they might come out better than I really expected to be honest. And that time I was figured out that day, I figured out he was, ooh, I love it.

I love cameras, I like to be around. He was like, so, he was so late from 5 p.m. to 8 a.m. in the morning. He was in New York time. He was really like exhausted, but it's not just me. It's everybody. It's everybody there. It's everybody, everybody working hard.

It's not just like one person, Keanu, producer, only one camera. It's basically everybody there. You have like 20 people already awake and watching you and make sure you do the best you can. And of course, stun people. So, Boban, in the next NBA season, whenever you were playing a game, were guys on other teams telling you, Yo, you were awesome and John Wick?

I remember the day when it was like we play against Lakers and LeBron coming like downhill and I make foul. And I tell referee, referee that's not a foul. And he turned to me and said, hey, Bobby, this is not John Wick. Boban, I'm curious if you always had a passion for movies. Some people of your stature, they just kind of find their way into it and don't necessarily take the kind of natural liking that you seem to have for movies. So I wonder if growing up, this was a goal of yours,

that you loved movies and wanted to be in them. No, I like the movies. I like the movies, movies. It's always nice to be there. Of course, watching Shaquille O'Neal and all what he do, you know, like he's my role model. And I watch him, how he doing, what he do, you know, like he's my role model and I watch him, how he doing, what he do, how he provide everything, what he touch,

basically he make gold and this is like my goal for me too. Like, you know, like be the most movie I can, be the like, of course, maybe one day be the TV host, you never know and of course, maybe like I'll be DJ. Basically I work on my DJ skills and this is like my goal to be, to be almost like him. Nobody can reach him, but you know, like I try a little bit small part of that.

And when I watched him that time, I was like, maybe I could try, but it's never, it never was really like true. I didn't ever believe in that. They like really didn't step on a step on a couple commercials, go there, film the movie, saw how that looked. I was like, man, I love this. I'm super excited for this. I am like big fan. And now they call me actor.

I don't know why. Well, they call you actor because you fought in John Wick. You fought John Wick. You're in the upcoming series, Robin Hood on MGM Plus. And then we're all excited this weekend to see him in Happy Gilmore 2. It's only on Netflix.

It begins tomorrow on Netflix. So how many opportunities and what are the most interesting opportunities, offers that you got when people realized, oh this person can be in the movies, we can have some fun with this and he wants to do it? What are the opportunities that came your way that were the most exciting?

But this is like how you say, we like we're doing right now, Robin Hood, what is super exciting. That's why I couldn't go on premiere. They shooting here, they shooting here in Serbia, what I have lucky to be in my country, basically. Like not in, not really my city, but like telling me driving what is like really close by.

And it's, they'll be like same. They'll, they look like they'll be amazing because I'm there. No, they'll be, they'll, they'll be like same though they look like they'll be amazing because I'm there no but they'll be they'll they'll look like they'll be great show the TV show and looking forward to looking forward to see that Happy Gilmore 2 come out come out like tomorrow but Super Sunny have so much fun. This is great though Bo Ben you look just like you look just like the original Happy Gilmore character they made they did the mr. Larson Richard Kiel Yeah, you did they they made you look like jaws from the double oh seven movies Did you did you know what he looked like? Did you were you know you saw the original?

Yes, of course. I saw originally so I saw I saw the movie and then I think they did great job with that matching matching me With him and he did that was him and that was a great idea. It was a great idea, it was fun, the movie is amazing. So much famous people in that movie. Of course, Adam Sandler, one of the best, Bad Bunny. Dan, what's the matter with you? You don't think BoBan had seen Happy Gilmore? What's wrong with you, man? I'm sorry, sometimes I ask dumb questions. You don't think Boban had seen Happy Gilmore? What's wrong with you, man? I'm sorry, sometimes I ask dumb questions. Can you tell us anything about this character? Do you have a nail in your head?

What can you tell us about this character? Oh, to be honest, I don't know what I can tell, but the only one I know, I don't have nail in my head. This is the only one I cannot tell. This is what you guys don't know. I don't know how far I can describe my- No spoilers. No spoilers.

I respect that. I respect. You guys watching tomorrow, but I don't have nail in my head and it's super exciting to be there. We have Adam and Ben Vani. We did them, mostly shooting with them. And it was like super cool.

They helped me with everything. It was like, I don't helped me with everything. He was like I don't know if you can say more but this is it I know I'm I hope so. I hope so. Oh, he's getting punted. Look, there's someone off camera telling him. He's got to stop talking Okay, that's fine. I'm gonna ask you a question that has nothing to do with the movie. How was being with bad bunny? Yeah, it was it was cool. It was cool. I met him. I met him on his show uh It was cool. I met him on his show. He was in Dallas. When I work out in Portland, we have the game. I work out before. Something happened to be in the same time in the weight

room, only me and him. That's why we have a small conversation there. one more time in Dallas and this is like four times. Four times in you know when they do makeup and everything that's why we did we did makeup together that's my that's my hair what they what they build my hair and it was like it was super exciting because they need some time to do that. Bobon I love you I love you I love you too yeah I love you. I love you. I love you too. Yeah, I love you guys. I love guys too. But I saw I saw a little bit like a picture late here, but I think is not because of me. Maybe. You look great, buddy. Boban, I don't know about that. Look great. All right. All right. Your technology is great. I will take that. Boban, I think you said that you hadn't seen the movie yet. Do you have a plan when you're going to sit down, who you're going to watch the movie with? Tomorrow. My family right now in Puerto Rico, there was the fun part because they went to Puerto Rico on vacation.

And I'm here to do something. And they have opportunity to see Bad Bunny concert and I did a movie with him. That's like, that was like a fun fact and I think I watched this movie with my friends and family, but family mom and dad and because my wife and my kids in Puerto Rico right now. So what sounds better to you, coming back to the NBA and winning an NBA championship or winning an Academy Award? Look, I'm basketball player.

I always go first. Come to NBA and win championship. This is like every goal for every basketball player when I come to play basketball. If not basketball game, I come when I come to play basketball if not basketball game I will never have opportunities to be on Never have opportunities to be on on a movie TV show or commercials or well like you name it So we're here You guys okay

well so when you think of the things that have happened in your life and how Improbable they are that you would get to some of these things when you say what is the most ridiculous situation? they are that you would get to some of these things when you say what is the most ridiculous situation I have found myself in because somebody wants to meet me or somebody wants to spend time with me. How did I get from here to being in the presence of this person outside of the NBA? Great question. I ask that every time myself. I ask every time myself because I really come from 3000 people city.

It's basically village here in Serbia. People in Serbia doesn't know where is that city. And I come here and every time I ask from that time when I start to play basketball, every time I ask myself, stay in front of all these players, play with all these players, be around all these people like who I met, who have opportunity to have blessed to be around. I every time ask that my question, how it's happened, chase your dreams, and this is one of my dream. Basically, I'm living every day my dream.

I never thought they'll be like that, but this is my dream. I hope so I respond that question really good because I didn't hear anything. Yes, you heard it, but yes, you heard it very well, and you answered it very well, but you didn't actually answer it. Like, because you didn't.

Okay, tell me. Hey, help me, help me to answer what you think. What one person have you found yourself around or situation where you're like, how the hell did I get here? Do you know how much the odds are against me being in this situation? I know, look at this.

John Wick for Keanu Reeves sitting there. We practice the scene. He say, he say Ernest, it's almost time. You know, like he said it and I was like, flashback. I know the lines, I know everything. And I was like, huh? And I can basically flashback from the matrix what I watched when I was like,

really like when I was the kid, not like like when he's been when I was the kid Not like kid kid, but when I was when I was the younger and I watching I watching I was like is this really happen like I watch around and like I was like that's that's really true That's that's basically one one of the many but mostly like What I really remember because it was like really, I couldn't believe. Boban, so you've been in a couple of Adam Sandler movies now. Happy Gilmore 2, you were also in Hustle.

Right, great movie. So are you now like an Adam Sandler guy? Because his friends are in like all of his movies. No, he's my best friend right now. He's my best friend. He's the best. He like really like make people like, when they go there film, they make them to look special.

They make them to feel special. And he is one of best to do that. Like you go there to shooting, it's not job, it's like basically pleasure, fun. You always learn something new. You always find something new. They always make you have a smile on your face. And it's like, this is who he is. Like, one of the best persons I've ever met. Bovan, you came up through the national team ranks with Jokic. And he's misunderstood, I think, by many.

Some on this show would agree he's probably the most unstoppable player in NBA history yet people talk about his passion for the game and he doesn't actually seem like he really enjoys it. Does he enjoy basketball and why are his arms always bleeding? Well, like I know him, we played together, we played together together in Megavizura and that time he was 18 and that time I was that time I was star now he changed now we change and we played together he always he always played great he always have passion for basketball this is like this is like who he is like you know he loved he loved what he loved to do and he I think he really enjoyed of course they everybody have like some better they don't want to be like on their job

but you know, job is job and he is one of the best in that, working that job. They mean like we expect him for him every time to provide and he always provides. Maybe he don't have that always like that smile what we expect every time to enjoy, but he really provide every time with numbers, with helping teams to win all this stuff, what they do, all this championship, all these MVP's. What he done, it's like, I don't talk about just NBA, I talk about when he's best in Europe too.

What he's like tremendous player and I think I agree with you, one of the unstoppable player in NBA, or maybe, not maybe, it's in the world too. Happy Gilmore 2, only on Netflix tomorrow. People have no earthly idea what it is to walk around the world at your size. So among the inconveniences whether it's can you find a hotel shower that works for you, can you find a bed in a hotel that works for you, what would you say is the greatest daily inconvenience of being as large as you are? You know, like car cannot fit, like this is like so much, so much like not too much cars, so I can really like go there go there and say, hey this is the car what I like, no I go first to try, same like you try t-shirt, you try pants,

that's how I try the car, like not like trying how they drive, it's about trying how they fit You know, like okay, I can try not drive my head It's like to the roof or not my head to the roof I can my can I like my my knees be under the standing wheel or no Can I basically fit by my shoulders in the car everything like everything matching or because I have kids I have any space On the back or like like behind me because my seat or no That's like that's like like mostly like for me things and same like for the bed, you know, going hotel, like not every hotel have like the large size,

like big size, whatever, how they call like a big size bed, king size and they always, I'm used to sleep like that and if my leg don't go, don't hang out of the bed, I couldn't sleep good. You know, like basically, like even I have, I have in my house, like bed, like my size, but I still rolling down till like my legs don't hang. Don't hang.

It's like- That's how you sleep now. Yeah, that's all my life. You know, like I doesn't know for nothing else. That's how I choose. This is how I'm built and that's how I did. I can tell that our entire show wants to be friends

with you and wants to talk to you for hours, but he has to go. We are excited to see him this weekend in Happy Gilmore 2. It is only on Netflix tomorrow. Nice seeing you, sir. Thank you for making time. Thanks, man. I appreciate it, guys.

Big heart, big heart like this, my heart. Bigger heart, bigger heart, yeah. Yes heart, big heart like this. My heart. Bigger heart, bigger heart. Yeah. Yes, Dan, there you go. Good heart. Put the oboes together, Dan. There you go.

Come on, there you go. Mine's no good. Mine's no good. No, no, this, like this, like this. Mine's not as flexible. I can't touch my oboes. I'm doing it really good. Your oboes are this.

Your reach. Yeah, good job. Thanks, Boban. Thank you, guys. Oh, my God, he told me good job.