The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Eating Humble Pie

Episode Date: December 9, 2024

Stugotz wants Aaron Rodgers to stick around with the Jets next year solely so he doesn't have to watch him play well elsewhere. Billy has a new show bit he'd like to execute, but he's worried about all of our blood sugar levels. Then, Jessica zooms into the show because we need her perspective on the 12-team field for the College Football Playoff. Would Georgia have been excluded with their hurt QB like FSU was last year if they had lost to Texas? Will SMU's inclusion in the playoff get Dan and Mike to stop talking about SEC bias over and over again? How do college coaches handle going to the playoff while the transfer portal opens? What ingredients go into a humble pie? Plus, Taylor has an exclusive report on Bill Belichick and the head coaching job at the University of North Carolina. We're serious. Taylor has sources. This is good information. Seriously. Taylor. For real. Seriously. We mean it. Taylor. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

You're listening to DraftKings Network. Welcome to the Big Sui, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries

that if they're just there, that hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face and the habitual liar. I will tell some of our favorite listeners who come out and see us, even if we're on the edge of the Everglades

watching the Dolphins wheeze past the Jets in overtime. Aaron Rodgers, those are the best two games I've seen Aaron Rodgers play. The last two are the best two I've seen him play. He's auditioning for a new job because- Or the same job. The only reason the Dolphins lost yesterday is because the Jets insist on being

losers. And to his great, he's got the highest completion percentage of anyone who's ever thrown a football. In season, career-wise, nobody's ever been more accurate than this person at people being thrown the football and catching it. I can't believe I'm going to say this, but I want Aaron Rodgers back. No, you shut up. The thought of Aaron going somewhere else and being great somewhere else,

I'd rather him just be bad as a jet. I'm serious. I can't watch Sam Darnold every week. I can't watch Geno Smith every week. I don't want to watch Aaron Rodgers win somewhere else. I don't lose here. First 300 yard game since 2021. He has not been good, but he's auditioning for next season and the last two games he's looked good. Like that, uh, uh, the dolphins deserve to lose

that game. They could not though, because of the jets are losers. Do you think that Aaron Rodgers documentary is going to help him at all? Cause I feel like it's only going to hurt him, right? Hurt him how? He wants to be seen as unusual and eccentric, and he's got some of that fun CTE. In terms of getting a contract next year, I feel like we're all gonna watch and be like,

yeah, it's probably best not to go down that rabbit hole. I don't think he wants to be seen as any of those three things. You think blacklisted for having kooky theories is what's gonna keep him out of the league? Not blacklisted, but I mean, his play hasn't been great, and at a certain point you're like, is it worth this headache? But him out of the league? Not blacklisted, but I mean his play hasn't been great. At a certain point you're like, is it worth this headache? But then he can claim that he was blacklisted because he had two good games.

He just threw for 300 yards. He shredded the Dolphin defense. Those were dimes. Like everything he was throwing on third and fourth down, I'm like, oh, that's what Garrett Wilson is supposed to look like. Oh, look, Devonta Adams, that's what a million reps looks like. Like that's not possible to stop. He's gonna drop back third and four and you're not gonna be able to stop it the Jets didn't have to punt

They like that the the Dolphins win that game in overtime But didn't deserve to your boy Sanders is the most accurate kicker in the league. Yeah, I We workshop this idea Dan and I put the kibosh on it because it's not fully fleshed out But I would like to run it by you because I feel like you're gonna like this idea, just not in its present form, so we didn't go to air with it, right? So I was told by Taylor, who's a singer-songwriter of our generation, some are saying,

and he was saying, tomorrow you need to literally eat humble pie when it comes to Jason Sanders. So what I was gonna do is I was gonna go to Burger King, go to the drive-thru, get a piece of Hershey's Sunday Pie, which is absolutely delicious, it's like a $1.85, which is a great deal. So I was gonna get a slice, but go to the drive-thru, get a piece of Hershey's Sunday Pie, which is absolutely delicious. It's like $1.85, which is a great deal.

So I was gonna get a slice, but then I figured eating a slice of pie would not suffice. But also eating an entire pie, I mean, my sugar would be crazy right now. Like I'm not diagnosed pre-diabetic, but I know that my diet is not good, and I know I'm headed in that direction. So I don't wanna be eating an entire pie.

I feel like that's gonna end poorly for me in the long run. So what are we gonna do? Well, that's the thing, is we need to figure out what type of pie is eaten here, because I feel like you like the idea of a segment called eating humble pie when someone has proven wrong, however, the payoff is just you're watching someone eat a pie, so what is the actual payoff there, besides just making

someone eat a disgusting pie? I mean, I would imagine eating a whole pie would hurt, I imagine it would be unpleasant. Yeah, but it's a pie, what is the actual payoff there besides just making someone would imagine eating a pie would hurt I imagine would be unpleasant yeah it's a pie eating it's also that's the thing is that if I your pie Jessica Jessica makes good things an entire pie like you're I you went to the hospital for an onion you might go to the hospital from eating an entire pie yeah well that's the thing is like if I go if I go next door and I'm just eating a slice of pie and I'm like, Dan, I'm doing this new segment. Make us a humble pie, yes.

It's called Eating Humble Pie and I'm just eating a slice of pie, you'd be like, this is a giant waste of everyone's time. You're just enjoying a pie you like and you'd be right. I am curious as to how Jess would design and curate a humble pie. As you know, baking is her core culinary discipline. Well, let's ask her, because thank you to everybody

who came out yesterday. We do not take that for granted that you come from all over the United States to hang out with us and watch a football game. I have a cringe story for you here. Billy was a magician on stage. He had such a rhythm with the crowd that they were guessing his numbers on the first guess

when he was asking them to pick a number between one and 100. Do you know how hard that is? Do you know what the odds are? I couldn't believe that. It was amazing. I felt like I was asking O's, the mentalist, to pick a number and you do the number.

You were amazing. You had the crowd in your hand. Jessica was out there with us, and I've been wanting to get her thoughts because college football, Stugats, we haven't even gotten to this Okay, SMU gets in Clemson is the first to steal a bit I'm sure all of you are thrilled for Davos winning Clemson steals its way in everyone knows that team's not good enough Yeah, everyone knows it the committee ranked them 16. Everyone knows that team's not good enough

We've seen that team. It's not just like you don't give you good committee. Don don't need numbers, don't need a scoreboard. Nope, nope, not good enough. Stole a bid. Stole a bid. I'd rather see Alabama or Miami or BYU. But Dan Lanning is claiming SEC bias, which is hard to do today. Or South Carolina, who beat Clemson two weeks ago. That's correct. That is correct, because everybody in the sport has lost recently. But Jessica, your overall thoughts and welcome, your overall thoughts on everything that just happened Because I expect a ton of arguing but once Clemson throws this chaos into it You got to shrug your shoulders and say okay fine SM use the loser in there and then you keep Alabama out

You look like you did it clean Yeah, I mean, I think my initial reaction is, man, this Sunday television show is very silly. I sat there and I waited and I waited. And I was like, just tell me who the teams are. Just show me the teams. And I had to keep waiting. And I think I watched like a full hour of the show

before they even got to the full one through 25 ranking. And I was like, I have to go to Dolphin Mall. I don't have time for this. But yeah, I mean, Clemson, you could say they stole a bit. They don't get a buy. They're the only conference champion in the playoff that's not gonna get a buy week, but they won the game that was in front of them

that they had to win to make the playoff. And there's a lot of teams that were in that position this season, Miami, that they didn't do that. So I guess, you know, have fun playing in Austin against Texas. Texas, by the way, they didn't do that. So I guess, you know, have fun playing in Austin against Texas. Texas, by the way, they didn't look very good in the SEC Championship game. So that game actually might be interesting. Because that conference isn't actually that good. Georgia's not actually that good. They beat Texas by three points and now Georgia gets to be good when none of those teams are

actually that good. It is an interesting look when Georgia Tech takes the SEC champion to eight over times. I was very curious to see had had Georgia lost that game, Jess, when we established the Jordan Travis precedent, Carson Beck status. If Georgia loses that game by a wide margin, do you think the CFP applies the Jordan Travis logic and keeps Georgia out?

Or is that just exclusive to screwing the ACC? Not at all, because the situation last year was that Travis got hurt and then we watched Florida State's backup play a couple games and the committee was like, it's not the same team and I'm not saying I agree with that. I mean they won an ACC championship there, right? Yeah, right, but I'm not saying it's right. I'm just saying they wouldn't have done that because I mean it's Monday morning, we still don't know what back's injury is. I assume it's right. I'm just saying they wouldn't have done that because I mean, it's Monday morning. We still don't know what back's injury is.

I assume it's pretty bad. It looked really bad, but I don't know what his test results were. I don't know if Gunnar Stockton is gonna start in the sugar bowl against either the winner of Indiana Notre Dame. So yeah, I think it's sort of a different situation. Not saying that it was right last year,

just that it would have been, just they wouldn't have done that this year. It's just awfully convenient that it's always a different situation, not saying that it was right last year, just that it would have been, I just, they wouldn't have done that this year. It's just awfully convenient that it's always a different situation for one conference. You try to apply the same logic and the goalposts keep moving for whatever reason when it comes to the SEC. Well, I mean, yeah, but SMU's in, right? Like, Alabama didn't get in over SMU, so. Well, SMU's in, SMU's in, Jess, do you think SMU's in?

Because they fought back in that game, because it felt like all of Saturday, the ESPN media machine and all the CFP partners were basically laying the foundation to screw SMU out of this. SMU battles loses on the last second 56 yard field goal and that's the way that the committee. That's ridiculous though. Having a good fourth quarter is a ridiculous reason to put SMU into the playoffs. All these reasons are ridiculous. We're parsing, these teams don't play each other enough. Like Texas, you hold up Texas' resume right now,

and the fact that they actually made it to the conference championship is really the only thing that they have going for it. Because if you give Miami that resume, they're OLI. So it's all a little bit ridiculous. I think one of the things, Jessica, please, walk me through what you saw from yesterday and tell me where it is that me and Mike have this wrong.

Because Mike is getting on X, man, all that crying against the SEC by Mike Ruiz sure does look a little sad right about now, I think. I did not tweet that about myself, just so you know. Who tweeted that? I don't know say Very self-aware Mike Ryan is has been telling us about the SEC for a while and I don't know how many more results you need Okay, I actually Dan I felt like Saturday went pretty well. Everybody watching that game was like this is pretty disappointing

This is an SEC championship game I mean we were over here pivoting and selling the defense and I understand every game's in a vacuum, but I saw Georgia Tech put up like 500, like close to 600 yards of offense against that vaunted SEC defense. Georgia Tech is obviously very well coached and Georgia Tech, we can all agree. You take Georgia there, you take Miami there,

you're probably a pretty good football team. Like you're not doing that. What is the question? Let's go back. We were gonna ask you a question and we ended up on a tweet. Tell me the question. I do, I will.

Forgive me for the ramble here. It's a fair request. It is a fair request. But what I'm watching is, I think, that everyone came into this with what their preconceived notions were about what SMU is, what BYU is, what Georgia Tech is, what Georgia is is what Georgia is what Syracuse is

and nobody got their minds changed when everyone started playing. SEC starts playing each other we're like well they all must be good and we're like no they're all kind of the same Vanderbilt's in there Missouri's in there they all look the same and so Miami does Miami and others are like of course it's got to be Alabama with three losses they played in the SEC. What is the question? I mean. That's a question. Miami doesn't deserve to get in anymore

because of how things broke, but I'm just curious what the question was. Do you wanna be told you're the first two out? No. I'd rather just not know, honestly. No, honestly. It's all right. But I think to the original question

that I had twice before, do you think the committee would have screwed SMU out if they didn't battle back in that fourth quarter? Ah, the question. That I don't know. I think that the question with SMU out if they didn't battle back in that fourth quarter? That I don't know. I think that the question with SMU was going to also depend on what they did with Penn State and Texas. So I think like going into Sunday, if they were going to treat the conference championship games differently, they had to at least do it uniformly. So like Penn State and Texas didn't really get punished for losing those games, even though those were both their second losses

of the season. So you can't punish SMU for doing it either, even if there's a bigger margin. But I mean, they didn't get blown out. So I can't say that, Mike. Like it was a close game. It came down to a ridiculous kick by Clemson's kicker that, and like a return that SMU should have stopped.

I mean, it was a ridiculous end of the ACC championship game. Also the only exciting big 10 championship game of like the last decade, I want to say. So I can't tell you what would have happened because it didn't happen. SMU started out the game with a bunch of really costly turnovers and it looked like they were letting it get away from them

and they battled back. And I think that, you know, an 11 win team that makes it to the conference championship game, even if they do lose by a wider margin, shouldn't be treated differently than Penn State, who also was down by 14 or 18 points at one point in the Big Ten championship game, and Texas, who couldn't beat Georgia's backup quarterback after Carson Beck went out with that really nasty injury, and then came back in, by the way, in overtime, when everyone was like, oh, he's going to hand the ball off, and then he handed the ball off and they were like, oh, the game's over. We didn't,

we didn't realize they were going to do that. Jess, the transfer portal has opened officially today. There's all sorts of unofficial ugliness going on behind the scenes with players that are in the portal, players that are not in the portal. We have so many rounds of football to go with this portal thing, hovering over it. How do coaches navigate this because players and the reps are reaching out regardless? Oh, it's the whole thing's crazy. I mean, that national signing day was like four days after like the season ended last week.

And then you have the portal opening and there's already tons of players, like Tulane's quarterback, who's really good, just went in. There's also the coaching carousel is still ticking Mike. I have no idea. I think that is one of the things where you see teams with bigger staffs that have the resources to like manage all those things at once while their teams in the postseason, they're, they're going to be all right, but I don't know.

It's this is why they get paid like $10 million to be, to be the head coach. That's what the money's for. I have fun. I can't believe that it's taken us this long to get into head coach. That's what the money's for. Have fun. Good luck. I can't believe that it's taken us this long to get into the show, and I don't know what the reporting is, what's accurate here, because I saw a report that Steve Belichick has been promised the job

once Bill Belichick hands that over, and that doesn't seem sound or reasonable to me, but I haven't seen a second source on that, so I'd like somebody to tell me. Well, ask Taylor. What's going on? Where is Taylor? Yes, on? Where is Taylor? Taylor, what's the latest on this Bill Belichick stuff? Because the Steve Belichick thing is out there.

I've been telling people that Belichick is happening. I called Stu last week. He did. The expectation from people in Chapel Hill is that Belichick is going to be Carolinus' next coach. There was pressure to get it done Sunday and everybody that I kept talking to was saying it's very close it's gonna happen we're into Monday now and this is former North Carolina walk-on Taylor he's plugged in. He's a Carolina insider. He's our Carolina insider. I broke Freddy Kitchens coaching the ball game. Taylor alleges to have all the information and then we read about it somewhere else. So what are you breaking?

What do you know exclusively as a former walk-on for the North Carolina football team? Well, I also broke that Carolina was playing in the Fenway Bowl against UConn, if you want to give me a flower. Don't forget that. You tell them. All right, look, you're kind of an insider

in that you used to be a walk-on on the team and occasionally you get morsels of information that you break late. He also told us that Mac Brown was out but told us we couldn't say anything. He did. Yeah. Well where are we on this? This seems to be a pretty seismic story. Belichick, look Belichick's got to be insulted by what just happened with the NFL. Is it indeed tied to his son? Is it indeed tied to, because that'd be crazy if the way you get Belichick to run your program in North

Carolina, because Belichick still run your program in North Carolina, because Belichick's still got value, no? We would agree that you bring Belichick to your program and now you're bringing a brand like Deion Sanders. Hey, we're going to play with the big boys on NIL. We've got a kingmaker. When you're buying one of these coaches, he just did sort of a reverse Brian Kelly, didn't he?

Like where, oh, I'm not valuable up here? Okay, I'll show you and I'll bring my son along. I don't think there's any talk of a succession plan with steve belchev or or that the head coach in waiting stairs obviously something that's kinda holding up this deal because from from everybody i've talked to you this is so that i don't know why i said the other though it's probably jack or yes you're doing great okay i get out of here taylor jessica do you have any

thoughts on this mike was yelling that this was a good job, that this is a good job to have, and I did not have Bill Belichick saying, okay, forget it, nevermind. Greatest coach in NFL history, I'm gonna go do it in college. I love Taylor's headshot. It is a good job.

North Carolina football is a good job. Obviously, you know, North Carolina's primary resources go into basketball, but you're in the ACC, you can recruit down there, you can win a bunch of games and make the playoff now, even if you lose a couple of those games. It's a great time to be a college football coach of a team with like a nine or 10 win game season ceiling, I should say.

So I don't know. Good for Bill. Good luck, my guy. It's going to be weird. Jessica, I'm still curious. What goes into a humble pie Make it for us, please. I would probably just like get whipped cream and write the word humble on it. Honestly I don't think it would be like an ingredient. That's humbling. I think it would just be like a decoration

First of all, that sounds incredibly lazy second of all shortcut Yeah, I think he was saying like turds like I'm trying to make a time like Shortcut yeah, I think he was saying like turds like he's trying to make a time like That if you were to actually make a humble pie to make it edible but also a little bit foul what are the ingredients? That's what that's some crumble like make it a crumble pie, but you just crumble pie It's gotta be a punishment to eat it right because you're being humble punishing people you're being humble, but you're eating humble pie No, but the pie can just say humble on it No, but it should not be an enjoyable experience, right? You got humble pie. You got to eat like oh my god I got a little well no who's eating the pie is it Dan cuz I it's gonna be full of stuff

He's allergic to that part will be humbling so much gluten you have to dread Humble pie, of course. It's a punishment. This is who does bring up a good point. Thank you I'm Dan doing some research on this, North Carolina Situation because I'm not gonna sleep until this thing is resolved and we have answers here Yeah, and there is talk about Steve Belichick getting a head coaching job as a result now Stigatz told me and the audience yesterday exclusively on the show that Bill Belichick going to North Carolina was deeply tied to his ability to participate in the lacrosse program as well because he loves lacrosse.

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if he wants. This is the Dunn-Levatar Show with the Stugarts. Taylor said something must be up, something's happening because the news is supposed to come out on Sunday, it hasn't come out yet, it's Monday. So I've done some digging and I think that there may be more to this story that's not being reported. Just a hunch, I don't know this for a fact. Now if we look at we look at Bill's other offspring, Amanda Belichick, Amanda Belichick is the coach at Holy Cross, Women's Lacrosse. So I said, you know what, maybe he's trying to get a twofer here,

bring all his children in and get them head coaching jobs. Now here's the hangup here. You're looking at the wrong Nepo baby media. Yep, here's the hangup here. North Carolina Women's Lacrosse. It's pretty good. Head coach, Jenny Levy, or Levy, I'm sorry, I'm not sure Coach Helton.

Hasn't won enough though, I'll tell you that much. Yeah, I'm sorry. I'm not sure coach hasn't won enough though I'll tell you so much more qualified than Steve Well, Steve's gotten all the fame in the family so much more quality Steve has just been hanging around sidelines creeping around sidelines for 25 minutes is actually a head coach They're actually doing the work Steve is daddy's boy Well, here's the thing coach Al is entering her 30th season as North Carolina's head coach and as a Hall of Famer.

So it's gonna be hard to force out Coach Al here to bring in Amanda, I would think, but I don't know. This could be the hangup. Maybe look into this, Taylor. Wait, what about the men's team? Ooh. The men's team is fine. I think it is.

Men's lacrosse? No, I think angling for Amanda Belichick to take over for Jenny Levy once she retires or is forced out. I mean the football program is more important than the basketball program. If you want and then the lacrosse program, if you want to force Jenny Levy out, the way to do it would be with Bill Belichick. He could get that done. It means more. But if you're Bill Belichick, you want to make a splash, I want my daughter to coach the men's team, that's right. You want me to coach, you see what I'm saying? I'm not only putting my kids in positions of power,

I'm putting them in historic positions, like oh, she broke the gender barrier. Jess, I have a question for you as it regards to these matchups, because it takes our, you didn't cover it enough, the takes are flying, Joel Cladd's out there saying, this path is easy. I leave it to you, I'm interested in your take. One of the things that bothers me about this

is everyone goes to these takes thinking that they actually know what's gonna happen, which kind of pisses me off in a year that's been a little bit more unpredictable. What do you think the best game of the first round is gonna be and do you think there is such a thing as an easy path in this thing? Ooh, I don't know if there's any easy path.

I think the eight, nine playing Oregon is definitely really difficult. And I actually think that half of the bracket is pretty hard. There's a lot of speed on that side of the bracket. Like there's a lot of really good players and a lot of really fast wide receivers over there. So I think that that, you know, if you're Oregon,

you're like, oh, I'm getting rewarded for going undefeated by having to play against Tennessee or Ohio State in the Rose Bowl. You don't really love, you'd probably rather play, you know, Penn State versus SMU or Texas versus Clemson or Notre Dame versus Indiana. So I could see that argument for sure but I really don't think that there's any like easy path. I think that the thing that's great about the 12-team playoff this

year is that all the teams in the playoff are really good and are I think all capable of winning at least a game but they're all teams with with tremendous flaws like Georgia has especially if Beck is out. I thought everyone agreed that number five was the slot that you wanted to be in if you were going to be with a bye. That if you wanted to be where Notre Dame was trending. The assumption was that the group of five team would be the 12 seed when we all saw the playoff format and the Pac-12 ceased to exist any longer.

It'd be like, oh, okay, well, you'll probably get the G5 winner in the 12 spot. So the five seed will play Boise State or Tulane or Army or whoever. And that's the easiest path forward. But obviously that's not the case. Boise gets a bye and the winner of Penn State SMU will have to play Boise. And I think Boise's defense is not very good. They're probably, I want to say they're like 38th and F plus right now or something like that.

So yeah, I could see like wanting to play Boise for that reason. But the other side of that is that they have the potential Heisman trophy winning running back on their offense. So I don't think you want to play Ash to Gentie. But yeah, I think Penn State Penn State's and probably the best spot at the same time, like we know James Franklin, he doesn't win these games. He doesn't win the top 10 matchups very often or at all. So like, it's just like, I don't know. I think it's, I think it's going to be really fun.

I think the entire country would be okay with like Penn State. No, you're not going to win anything. Get out of here. Like you're not allowed in. It doesn't make sense. You've got a record to get in, but no, you couldn't score on the goal line or Ohio win anything get out of here like you're not allowed in it doesn't make sense You've got a record to get in but now you couldn't score on the goal line in Ohio State get out of here That happens though. You're getting SMU or Boise State Taylor's tugging on my leg. He has an update Last update for today. The only candidate being discussed right now at Carolina is Bill Belchick. Okay. Thank you John summer all I saw he tweeted this morning the Wolf of Wall Street meme, so that must be over for sure. I thought Matt Campbell might be an option there,

but man, I wouldn't wanna play Arizona State either if I'm Texas. They look pretty good. They're fast. They put up big point totals. Billy, get in here because I wanna get you in here. Samson wants to get in here. He's upset because he hasn't had any ability

to get into the show because we're talking college football and he's bothered that we're not still talking about Soto. I'm following up on this big men's lacrosse lead that we got earlier in this show and I looked up Joe Bresche, who's the men's head coach. So I'll just read you one quick line. He's entering his 17th season

and this is how his bio on the website starts. Joe Bresche's coaching philosophy is summed up in three words. Family, academics, lacrosse. I thought it was F.U. Soto. That's what Bresch is all about. Can you guys get me the sound of Dan Lanning here? I want to get Jessica's response to this, Dan Lanning, and I want to get Mike Ryan's response to everyone braying with laughter

about his SEC tears. You know apologies to ESPN but those guys are SEC hunks and so all they do is they talk about how great the SEC is and you know to your face they're going to tell you how great you are but behind your back they're going to tell you how much they love those SEC teams. You know that you are in the SEC. Well they pay the bills right? I mean doesn't the SEC pay their bills? I mean who's their contract with? Is it ESPN's contract? Yeah it is. Yeah that's right you pay the bill i mean it's a contract with is that your contract yet it is now that's how it works like let's not pretend like it doesn't work differently but you know there's a secret to all that job

just when this way they can deny you just when you can't complain just went so you know if you lose three games shame on you right if you lose to shame on you right that's right when she won you like i think that Win. That's right. Win, shame on you. I'm a guy.

That's right. That's right. My favorite thing that happened yesterday was Greg Byrne getting community notes on Twitter for his annoying. There was like so many SEC fans that were like, why would any SEC team schedule a tough non-conference game? And it's like, you guys know they added Oklahoma

to the SEC, right? That was a conference loss for Alabama. What are you talking about? And also the SEC as a conference, you guys know you didn't have to add Oklahoma to Texas. No one made you do it. So I guess you're kind of like net neutral because one of the new teams you added got in the playoff

and one of them prevented your darling from not getting in the playoff. So like we came out neutral that you got three teams in. Good job, everyone should be happy. Good, Congratulations. One of them might win the national championship. And then what are you complaining about? Yeah, we have this tweet from Greg Byrne here where he says that they have to reevaluate how they schedule out a conference when all their losses actually came from in conference. Like you scheduled USF, Western Kentucky and Mercer. Mercer! Right, like they had a Wisconsin in there too, but it just... Well maybe you shouldn't have hurt Tyler Van Dyke.

Maybe you shouldn't have injured Tyler Van Dyke. Just kidding, I know they didn't do that on purpose, but that didn't help, because then Wisconsin ended up sucking the rest of the year offensively. Schedules, out of conference schedules are a difficult thing because they're scheduled several years in advance, right? Like Miami actually scheduled in the last 10 years, they've scheduled Bama, they've scheduled LSU,

they've gone to College Station, they played Texas A&M at home, they've gone to the swamp. Does it work out? Sometimes you're playing the greatest team of all time, sometimes you're playing a Texas A&M in a down year, but it buys them nothing, that ambition, because at the end of the day,

the CFP is gonna go from, oh, you play who's in front of you we're not going to hold that against you to actually ranking these teams and boosting their own arguments like Miami doesn't have a ranked win we're being told that by the committee that's doing the ranking that has done something pretty unprecedented taking a power four team in Duke that has nine wins and not ranking them flatly doesn't happen it's happened twice in like 15 years. My favorite was Jim Nagy was tweeting. He does like all the senior bowl stuff. He was tweeting about how like,

if you just take all the, you know, NFL talent from the top teams in college football, like all the SEC teams are clearly ahead and blah, blah, blah. And I tweeted something in response where I was like, look, if you guys want to crown a champion of the SEC, you did that on Saturday. You already have that. The college football playoff is supposed to be like the, you know, crown a champion of the SEC, you did that on Saturday. You already have that. The college football playoff is supposed to be like the, you know,

the entire rest of the field, like everyone plays against each other. And then someone responded to me on Twitter and said, we should have an SEC tournament and a college football tournament. And the winners play each other for the championship. And I was like, my guy, that's the regular season. That's the whole point. That's what we're doing here. That's why they play the conference games and then they have the champion and then the Big Ten has the conference games and then the champion

and the ACC and then there's the at-large bids. Like we already do that, that was the whole point. I don't know what you're talking about. Guys, I've gotten deeper onto the Belichick story. Tell me more. And it's all about leverage, right? He's got all the leverage. We just heard from Taylor, he's the only candidate

being discussed, right? So that means he's got all the leverage. Not only get Steve Belichick the job after he's done, not only get Amanda Belichick the men's team. But here's another one. Basketball, men's basketball. North Carolina, been struggling recently, right? Really struggling.

Belichick doesn't have any other kids though, but I'll tell you what he does have in his close circle. He has a Jordan Jordan Hudson his girlfriend Make her look Jordan last time worked really well for the North Carolina basketball team Yeah, you go part of the brand last time they had a Jordan Jordan brand. We're bringing back Jordan I wanted to ask you guys something about that believe it or not Do you know how much the Nike swoosh was originally sold for the original Nike swoosh like 12 bucks? I don't know $5 love this story. $35. What?

$35, I wonder how haunting that is for that person that got ripped off there to see it everywhere. Dan, I got a great corollary to this. My cousin was telling me, he remembers when one of our friends told him years ago, hey, there's this thing called Bitcoin, you should invest in it. And I said, how much was it going for back then?

And he said 15 cents. And so I just said, like a hundred bucks, if you put on 150 bucks on Bitcoin back then, you'd be worth a hundred million dollars. And he said, that's bad, but you know about the story about the guy from Florida who bought two Papa John's pizzas with Bitcoin that is now valued at $700 million. That guy, you want to talk about someone hitting their head against the wall and being like,

I can't believe how stupid I am. That's got to be the guy who feels worse, right? You guys are saying you can't believe how bad the guy that designed the Nike Swoosh felt right there. The woman, the woman. Yeah, fine. There's a woman, Carolyn Davidson. The woman.

Yeah, Carolyn. Thank you, Billy. I love you being the vigilant police on that one uh uh jessica last thing uh before we let you go i have this essentially right if you didn't watch any college football this year and you went into the season with whatever you thought the acc was and whatever the scc was and didn't watch any of the games the results of what just happened is the scc got credit for things that didn't watch any of the games. The results of what just happened is the SEC got credit for things that didn't happen on the field

and the ACC, for example, does not. Yes or no? Can you extrapolate? That the ACC's reputation and the SEC's reputation is what actually did, we didn't have to play the season. We didn't have to watch any of the games. I mean, then Florida State would be in the playoff because we were all like,

oh, they're going to be good this year, right? Like, I don't know. I don't agree with you. No one thought SMU was going to make the playoff. They were in week zero. They played Nevada and I was like, oh, this is going to be a rough season for SMU. Okay, but the fact that SMU can play with Clemson and the fact that we know that Clemson's not that good this year

suggests that Miami is what was the top of that conference. Perhaps, and why can't the SEC just be the better conference? I understand the argument that Miami could have been, I think ultimately- Yeah, they could have been. They really only had to beat Syracuse and they're in the playoffs. Yeah. Yeah, like they came down to four points really.

Well, it's just you have these three teams that are in the mix and for like three fourths of the season, Pitt was also in that mix. And it was frustrating as a Miami fan in that you don't even have common opponents really amongst these conference teams. I don't have the ability to show you. For example, like SMU beat up on six of the bottom teams in the ACC.

That obviously plays a factor in their appearance in Charlotte. Now, Miami just doesn't do what it has to do to get in there, but it's a little frustrating that we put together all these massive conferences and already in year one, we see how someone can game the system, how someone can be fortunate. If Texas doesn't make it to the SEC Championship game,

you can hold that resume up under a microscope. Indiana is playing Notre Dame, and I'm curious your thoughts on that game, because it could be an interesting one, because they played three teams with winning records all season long in one of these mega conferences in which you couldn't even imagine that. So I think we have a huge issue with being able to decide

who truly is the best team in these conferences if we're gonna have situations where you could have four teams in the mix who don't even play one another. Yeah, the conferences are giant. The scheduling's uneven. There's never been a really easy way to choose a national champion in the sport,

and there never will be. We will argue about it till the end of time. That's why, you know, enjoy the regular season while you have it. Enjoy the bowl games, they're fun. Beat your rival. Like, there's more to the sport than just picking the playoff games

and the national champion at the end of it, like it's 134 teams and a billion games and they're awesome and we'll just keep arguing about it until we die, eat at our beef. That's good, yes, let's do that. Jess, thank you for being here. This is Ward Manuel, he wins. Thank you, yes, yes.

What do you guys think of, there's a clip out there of Kim Ward saying he's gonna play in the Pop-Tart Bowl. No. He should. No, he should not. No, he should not. It's a premier ACC destination for whole years. No, he should not. No, he should not. It's a premier ACC destination for full years. No, he should not.

He should not play in that game. He should opt out of that game. Damien Martinez has already announced that he's gonna be playing in it. It seems like there's some alignment here. You should not play against Ohio, Iowa State, for no reason. Don't throw the Pop Tarts.

Then you shouldn't get to eat Pop Tarts for the rest of your life. Thank you, Jess. We appreciate the time. David Sampson continues to fume. I couldn't ask the question succinctly, and you shouldn't get to eat Pop Tarts for the rest of your life. Thank you Jess, we appreciate the time. David Sampson continues to fume. I couldn't ask the question succinctly, but the way that I would just ask Yustugat,

do you know that Georgia is that much better than Georgia Tech? Yes, I think Georgia's a lot better than Georgia Tech. A lot better, they went to overtime dude. I ate them. They were up 14 with five minutes left and Georgia got all the calls. This is infuriating.

We saw it. Right, so no one knows anything about college football other than you. He asked me a question. We saw them play. We saw them play. Dude, you don't know. Yesterday, you were asking on the stage,

Boise State hasn't played anybody. I'd like to see them play Georgia and Alabama. No, no, no. They were within a touchdown of Oregon at Eugene? I was making a larger point that this is the playoff I want to see them play Georgia and Alabama. I'm like, they were within a touchdown of Oregon at Eugene? I was making a larger point that this is the playoff I want to see. I don't care about the playoff. I don't care what you want to see.

I care about what I want to see. How do you watch the Georgia game? And what I want to see is Alabama. How do you? This is infuriating. Well, you can't argue what he wants to see. Yeah, no, I can't. But he wants to see.

But I can argue like Georgia's a lot better than Georgia Tech when we saw them play against one another and we know that Georgia Escaped against them. I how do you formulate that take? Please like the reason the reason I say it is We come in with whatever our opinion already was and the game doesn't end up mattering Well, they have to ban preseason rankings because all of that couches all of this I should be able to write no I'm telling them the season because all of this. You shouldn't be able to rat any teams until a month into the season.

Because all of it exists as confirmation bias. How do I know who choked if you don't have preseason ranking? This is what's great. We get right back to Amin's original point, which is, it's so much more fun to watch sports the way that he does. He is a Georgia Tech fan. All he's checked in on is, yeah, we're better than we thought you were or some form of yelling

I'm drunk. Yeah of Georgia Tech was actually good this year Nobody respects Georgia Tech even though when FSU lost him we were all like, oh, okay That was the first note of the season was Georgia Tech get drags FSU their top two quarterbacks were out for like three games Okay, like that Georgia Tech is severely Their record went undefeated at home. Do you know how much better Miami is than Georgia Tech? I do Georgia Tech beat you with one quarterback who was so hurt that you couldn't keep him in the game and another one that told you That every time they were throwing because he came into the game

They beat you with that because they're pretty good. Georgia Tech obviously, but Stugats will never say so. Well, five losses. Well, they were missing two of their quarterbacks or like three of the games. The point is to win the games. They lost five. Well, no, the point is not to win the games. Otherwise Miami would be in the college football playoff.

They lost to Syracuse too late though. But that's one fewer loss. I know, but it's when you lose lose that also matters. Alabama lost this month. They're Alabama. They're Alabama. That's not a good argument. All right Samson what can you add to this Samson? What can you add? I'm sorry I was just trying could you repeat the question? Is Is Georgia Tech as good as Georgia? Didn't they go to like 15 overtimes together? That's a great question. And aren't they sort of the same?

Yeah. No, not in reputation. No, they're not. I thought before the season that they weren't the same. They played the game, they looked the same, and now I'm back to thinking they're not the same. 765 million. Are we talking about that still? He's not adding nothing to it.

He was bored by our college football conversation because he wants to keep killing me. You're trapping me. He's stating the obvious and that's why there's this whole bias because of the investment. Go ahead. Talk all the Soto you want. What have we not gotten to? Oh, there was a Soto thing. I thought he was talking SEC TV deal.

I could have been. I was a little shocked if we want to talk college football for just a petite second. With the chaos of Clemson winning, I loved the fact that we got Ward Manuel off the hook by saying, oh, SMU played so well. They were in it to the end, so we didn't have to put them out and bring Alabama in.

That's why the thought of those guys sitting in their comfy couches and watching the game and wondering after the first quarter about the chaos and then saying, few SMU had a good final three quarters. The whole process is rigged in a joke. But that said, it's the process that you all wanted and the complaints come as they come. Howdy folks, it's Mike. And guess what?

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