The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Electrocute the Court Stormers

Episode Date: February 27, 2024

Jay Bilas has suggested court stormers be arrested after a Duke player was injured during a court storming at Wake Forest, and Lucy has some suggestions on how to fix this issue, but Greg Cote has a better idea. Then, did the NCAA die? Did we break the news? Will Title IX fall? Should Greg be the NCAA commissioner? Plus, Ron Magill is here to discuss the details of Dan's upcoming trip to Africa, anacondas, a hybrid bear, the great white shark, and stingray pregnancies. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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slash legal slash CA dash PRU dash disclaimer. Welcome to the big sui, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBertard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there.

That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now, here's the marching men to nowhere, that face and the habitual liar. MUSIC Sturgat, J. Billis is coming through here this weekend to do South Beach sessions. And Jay Billis has built an amazing career from law to being a sort of moral, great voice on a sport through culture wars as ESPN and basketball coverage changed.

Jay Billis, everyone knows knows that guy knows his stuff. When this guy's talking about how it is the NCAA has to be upended. He's so thorough, so factual, so on point without a fact out of place that everyone says, yep, you're a good caretaker for the sport. You're a good voice for the sport. We don't have too many of those.

Jay Billis goes on television with a strong voice and is wildly credible. And I've now lived long enough for him to say the most asinine thing he's ever said. Which is that everyone who storms a court needs to be cited and arrested and ticketed up. 18,000 citations. He said that would stop it.

The very next day. Jay Billis. Listen to me. Jay Billis is the best. Otherwise, Jay Billis is the best. But it doesn't all have to escalate to arrest everyone when a Duke player gets hurt. Allegedly.

Allegedly. Nobody now. This is the other thing. Oh, he escaped major injury. Heavens. We all knew it. Come on. Allegedly nobody now this is the other thing. Oh he escaped major injury heavens We all knew it come on you knew it when you saw it especially that second angle he was he's trying to draw contact I'm just saying like there. He wasn't hurt he embellished it and the reaction was Just so out of hand and I understand like

Something needs to be done and here's the thing that needs to be done. If you're a two and a half point favorite, don't storm the court. The wake was favored in that game. You're embarrassing yourselves and almost as much as Fulpowsky did and certainly the coaching staff and I understand emotions run high

and occasionally we're gonna have these conversations. I do actually think something should be done about it. I don't think it's arresting people. Because your school was involved. But Jay is right when he says that would stop it, right? I agree. I agree. Well, that's why you wanna know why.

No, no, no, no, it wouldn't know because no, if it's 30,000 people, no, what you're gonna, if it's thousands of people, you're gonna have so much armed security there You know what you will never see here in South Florida Mainly because I don't win big games is fans storming the field at Hard Rock Stadium You know why because that's all but guaranteed. We're gonna get jacked up by the police down here This is not some college campus. We can't be doing that stuff.

And it's why you'll never see it down here. But I would say in certain sports, especially college basketball, if you beat Duke, regardless if you're the favorite or not, you should storm the court at home. Because Duke has been so good for so long and they are so unlikeable that when you beat Duke, you wanna storm the court and celebrate it.

You do. No, there should be a protocol because believe it or not, Miami still has this cachet, especially in football where they haven't done much over the last two decades. And it happens often to them. And I've spoken to players that have been on the field as it's been stormed and fans have punched them in the head. It's not like you get a drill from your head coach.

Now guys, in the event that we lose, keep your composure, because there are going to be fans like that's a loser mentality, and a coach is not going to prepare someone for it. There should be something in place where you get the best of both worlds, where fans get to have that experience, but you keep players safe. I don't know if it's some sort of clock that's instituted,

where security just holds a line for as long as they can. And I know that's asking a lot of security. If it messaging that goes over the PA maybe that's something. We can certainly do more and we haven't tried a lot but part of this is also you know Clemson stop rushing the field when you're 15 and a half point favorite. The solution is like super simple I believe it happened when Creighton beat Yukon they just had like a clock up there. It's like 30 seconds. You can play a video on the video board of something with the player saying, hey, hold up.

Like there's a very simple solution. I will say though, J. Bill has had a great point. I think the woman who hit Caitlin Clark should be in jail. Oh, seeing. She kind of sold it to. She's a trendsetter. Shut your mouth. Her influence is undeniable when you see that Duke highlight.

She's trying to make the sport safer for everybody She's just amazing. I think Billy had the proper perspective yesterday in the proper response. Don't lose. I mean don't lose I mean, but they were a two and a half point dog Don't lose the netting around the field hasn't really hurt baseball. Just throwing it out. No one's stormed the baseball It's a horrible overreaction. It's like the Disco night. Let's throw a net up around the basketball court. No, we've been storming courts and fields forever,

and we have two bad incidents, and suddenly Bill Self wants to end it. And it's not even that bad. He generates the contact. It is a bit of a powder keg though, and you can understand how in our lifetime something is gonna go wrong, and someone might actually get hurt

and there might actually be a brawl on the playing surface. We can all see that coming and I do think that there should be some leadership here and getting out ahead of things but unfortunately the governing body may be dead anyways. Well, let's get to that in just a second but before we do that, we're all in agreement.

Jay Bellis, you've been the voice of reason really for an impeccable amount of time. Salute to you, master, respect. But we can't arrest everybody and start drawing up citations. No, citations take a long time. I mean citations take a long time to write up. They do. There's so much. You bury them in paperwork. Then you're going back and forth like Samson and Cody. You get them in paperwork, and you're going back and forth like Samson and Cody. You get me an answer 24 hours. I'm out of here.

Well, Samson. What if you give away pizza outside right after the game? You're like, we're giving away pizza, but you only have five minutes to get it. Everybody's going to want to go get that pizza. Let me speak directly to the fan here for just a moment. Fan, basketball fan, football fan, whoever you are, you never look dumber than when you're storming a court or a field. Your place is in the stands.

That's what your ticket entitles you to. You have no right to storm a court, to celebrate in the stands. Stand up, applaud, high five your neighbor, chug a beer, stay off the court because that's the players and coaches. It'd be like if after a good meal we stormed the kitchen. Like, no, we're not doing that. Celebrate the cook. That's a good idea. But what if you didn't expect it to be a good meal?

What if you thought it would be a bad meal? Right. It ends up being one of the most memorable meals you've ever had? I mean, Greg's right, it is trespassing. It is. You guys are lame. Storming the court is awesome.

I know it's dangerous, so let's just put up the shot clock and bam, I already fixed the problem. But my core memories of college, my favorite moments ever were storming the field after I would go. What's so great about it? Because when I would be so high, when I would score 55 points in any game,

we have to storm the field. It's just a rule. Even if you lose. I do feel like if they put up on the Jumbotron, if they put up on the Jumbotron, if they put up on the Jumbotron, storm the court in 30, 29, 28. You have to storm it when the players are on the court. People love a countdown clock.

Now I'm getting all lathered up. Now I'm gonna storm that court with force. People love a countdown clock. I just think it's small town privilege. In Miami, it doesn't happen all that much because we think we're gonna get shot. I mean, that part, I shot. Yes, yes.

If you try to storm the field in mass at Hard Rock Stadium, it's gonna go badly. It's not polite campus security. It's Miami police. Miami versus Duke. I shoot players on football fields all the time. They all got arm sleeves, man. I'm not judging, but.

I stormed the court at Miami when they beat Duke Field. Get shot? I was the oldest one out there. I'm like, what am I doing here? I don't think I stormed the court at Miami when they beat Duke few get shot I'll just one out there. I'm like, oh my god We we I don't think we stormed the court I think we casually walked on to the court once we won the ACC last year That's just a casual stroll How does that look? A general milling? A general milling?

Yeah, I'm a milling. I'm a milling. A milling. There wasn't a milling. There wasn't a court storming. There wasn't a milling. You guys were loiterers on the court. It wasn't a court.

In fact, Coachella had to be like, come on, guys, it's okay. I'd rather be a trespasser than a loiterer any day of the week. It's just blue bloods carry themselves a certain way. We act like we've been there before. The technology does exist to electrify the court. Yeah. Wow. Hear me out. Hear him out. I'm not talking about something that would be extremely the court. Yeah, wow. Hear me out.

Hear him out. I'm not talking about something that would be extremely dangerous. Nothing leaves though. Like a dog collar. Right, like a dog collar. Keep the dog in the yard. Like a mild stun gun feel. You would feel a jarring sensation in your feet and you would have to limp off the court

because it would be terrifying to you. Plus there would be that sun. The player's mosquito runs into one of those things. The players would then get electrocuted a little bit. No, no, because the... Their shoes would be programmed to not be electrocuted. The players and the coaches would all know to clear the court.

And then 10 seconds after the game ends, the court is electrified. And all the fans who have stormed the court are having a terrible, unpleasant situation. And guess what? Next big win? They don't do that anymore. I like that. Wow. All the fans who have stormed the court are having a terrible, unpleasant situation. And guess what? What? Next big win?

They don't do that. I like that. Thank you. Electric cute. No, Greg is on to something. Lightly. Lightly. No.

Like a raptor pattern. So more than beyond the take where Jay Bellis has taken it, no, it can't merely be a rest. Let's go beyond that. Electric cute the customer. No, I'm not electric cute. Mine or Zaf. Wait, but not electrocute. I'd rather get zapped. Wait, no, I just want to make sure I got this right.

At the time of greatest joy, because we have won as a one point underdog against the school that has a reputation, we got great joy. The problem with court rushing is going to be solved right now as we rush for our greatest joy into straight electrocution. No, not electrocution staff. Our home fans. They're just shocked.

They're missing the point. I will shock. You're misrepresenting this intentionally. It's enough just to get you to go back to the stand. Greg, the technology exists, I believe, and I know exactly how you do it. It's not you electrify the court, because then you're gonna zap the players,

the referees, whoever, right? Or even security if they happen to be pushed on the court. What you do is, when they come in in you give them one of those like concert bracelets that changed lights like a different songs or whatever But there's a zapping mechanism in it. They have no idea. They're none the wiser So they go out there during the game songs play the lights are changing everyone's excited like wow This is such a cool bracelet I'm not gonna take it off you win the game you go on and you have one of those secret little dog I'm not gonna take it off you win the game you go on and you have one of those secret little dog

Electrocution wires around the court. They don't even know as soon as they cross that just a little yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like that Billy's thinking What about you get whatever is popular in a certain market like if you're an Iowa It's like the best fast food or just like a restaurant that would get everyone super excited Free cheeseburgers outside right now for anyone that first- I said that. You did? He's a pizza. He's a pizza. Okay, good idea.

I don't watch college basketball with sound on. I'm either at the game or it's on like a second or third television. I don't know what J. Billis' takes on this have been. But I imagine I've seen games where this happens that he he's on the call of, and he's not calling for the arrest of people as it's happening. I saw Dan Patrick have a take on this. A lot of this opining that you're seeing on these networks, when they show promos for Big Monday

and the conference championships, they're constantly showing court storming. It's a part of the culture. It is a celebrated part of the culture that is perpetuated by the big television networks, and for them to do an about face is a bit of a bad faith argument. Be part of the solution.

And don't just try to arrest people one day to another because your star player decided to fake something. Just zap them. Lucy, I do want to get into the serious part of this, and we will in a moment in the next segment because It should be pretty newsworthy that the NCAA has kind of collapsed fall into its knees We should probably talk about this but before I do so I just want to tell the audience mayday a local Miami band here now That I have your attention for just a moment

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Let's get a musicologist on. I think it's a bassoon. I love woodwinds. Yeah. Who do we know that's who's the music version of Ron McGill that we could have on? I think it's a buffoon. To hear that sound and to idea it. Stugats. I mean I heard that and I think I was the butt of that joke. That was Billy. No, no, prior to that I'm going in chronological order here. Yes. Keep up, Dan. This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugas. I believe over the last few years if you've been paying attention in this space to the business of college football, I believe that Mike Ryan, Lucy and Jessica, who's not even here today, have reported very strongly and earnestly and correctly and fairly about what the business of the NCAA is becoming is the whole thing,

like shakes and clatters. Oh, God, it's got $7.8 billion in TV revenue. ESPN is going to be able to rent out these games. They're going to be using these bodies on the sport that we love, and there's going to be moral conundrums everywhere. And the prices are skyrocketing, because everybody knows how much money is involved. Mike and Lucy and Jessica have stood out in their reporting about the commerce of this,

showing you the insides of what the business looks like in ways that are funny, creative, illuminating, and honestly reported, expertly reported. So correct me if I'm wrong, are you guys willing to break the story or is someone else breaking it that the NCAA is now dead? Well this happened several days ago,

so the story has very much already been broken, but we're doing our best to get to it in a moderately timely manner. So the NCAA is dead, you've heard it here, not first or second or third, but like hundreds down the line. I'd like to have the original reporting on this that confirms it's not an insignificant thing

that's happened over the last couple of weeks. No, so basically what happened, and this was Friday of last week, was the NCAA lost a lawsuit against the state of Virginia in Tennessee. This one happened specifically in Tennessee that pretty much opens up the floodgates with NIL saying that the NCAA is not able to restrict any sort of NIL payments from boosters or collectives or whatever that could be.

So it's pretty much a free market and the NCAA really has only been around to say you can't pay players and you can't transfer and we're gonna make everything crazy difficult for everyone. So this pretty much feels like what's the final blow to the NCAA. They don't really do anything anymore. They hired a former governor to I guess make make enroads with politicians to see if Congress can actually get involved here. Not a great time to get Congress to do anything at the moment. So this is happening at a pretty tumultuous time in our country where you have a politician in place basically

to have the government do what they can't. The ruling really isn't as big a deal as they make it out to be. They essentially ruled that you can now use NIL to attract players. Wow, no one's done that before. I'm speaking for everybody else. At the University of Miami, you agree to come here and then we talk in IL. We're the outlier pretty much.

But it doesn't really mean much other than solidify that we are now acknowledged to be in the wild west, but I am not in favor of this ruling. I may surprise you with that. I think we need to have a governing body in place because what's going to happen is football will get more and more crazy and more money will be spent and we're going to ignore as we have with this because I haven't seen the think pieces on this really. The non-revenue sports may die or be suspended until we have a solution and say all you want about the NCAA, but they are necessary when it comes to non-revenue sports. Who's going to be organizing softball, baseball, track and field? I really think that we are fast approaching a part in college athletics where we're not going to have non-revenue sports until we figure this out. Well, this happened quick, right? Because I thought we saw, look man,

when we talked all about this business terrain, please tell me if I have any part of this wrong. They were always warning us, if basketball and football are gonna be that more valuable than everything else, they will have no responsibility to keep everything else alive. And of course, at the time of greatest greed,

all of the top is gonna go where the money goes and yes You're gonna get a whole lot of athletics are gonna get undercut by the business of this they warned us This was coming in 20 years. It's gotten here like right now, correct? Did I drive anything wrong? No, it's happening too fast and it's happening so fast that there isn't a replacement in place What is the alternative to the NCAA when it comes to these other sports? Football is great. I give a lot to football, but I give a lot to a lot of athletics, and football only takes up really on my calendar 20% of my time. Most of the sports that I attend with my family are non-revenue sports, and I'm really afraid that they're just going to fall

by the wayside here as we prioritize the revenue. You've already seen non-revenue sports get cut when COVID hit. That was a lot of the first things to go from these athletic departments, cutting swimming, cutting tennis. And so Mike Ryan makes an amazing point where the way I think this should be done is there should be a separate governing body for college football because that's a completely different animal than college wrestling than college softball. Probably the CFP. Yeah, but they can't do anything. They don't know what's going on and they're ruining that too.

So maybe they shouldn't be in charge. Someone not the CFP should be in charge of college football. We're in a scary time where you're going to see these non-revenue sports dip. There's also the question with this NIL money coming directly, where does Title IX factor into this? I would do that by the way. I would be the college football commissioner.

Wow. I believe I'll sue. And the executive producer of this show. This is great. I do them both at the same time. You're right about, I'm glad you mentioned Title IX because Title IX ranks above the NCAA because it's a national law.

And if not for Title IX, there would be no such thing as women's rowing at the University of Miami and men's golf and women's tennis. I mean almost every woman's sport below basketball would not exist. At the University of Miami there are people that are really trying to push for a softball program and you can't be pushing for it at a worse time right now with all this uncertainty. Okay but forgive me Mike because you have been a bit of a protector like you've been shouting without seeming hysterical

and you can't just let all the governance walls collapse. Then it's gonna become such free commerce that it's gonna ruin the sport very quickly. I guess my Miami relationship has held against me. I do think that there should be some order. I don't like that it's arbitrary depending on which state that you're operating in. And I don't necessarily want the government involved. I just want adults in the room. And right now we have a rudderless ship and now it's all out in the open. And it's not

sexy when you're your fantasy booking you the the a 14 team college football playoff and you're hyping up EA's next big release, they're not going to be releasing track and field, EA's track and field. And these are really essential programs that benefit the student athletes, that give people access to college that in some cases may otherwise not have it and it's being forgotten here as everyone just grave dances. There's a pretty easy solution to some of this, and it would be pay college football coaches less. But that will never, ever in a million years happen. So I'm sorry, I'm sorry I brought it up.

My bad, my bad, my bad. No, no, no. The injustice of the entity that's making all the revenue not really paying for the labor, I mean they do in some institutional things. They provide these games and they organize them. But really, the people funding NIL, they're not the schools for the most part. There's some states here and there. folks, whether you're hosting a game day, a movie night, Dijorno knows that planning a watch party on a budget isn't easy.

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Don Lebatard. So here's the chant. Are you ready? I'm speaking to the rest of the country. You say who? We say whoot. Stugatz. You say who?

We say whoot. You say who? Come on Ron. We say whoot. We say hoot. Stugatz. You say hoot. We say hoot. You say hoot. Come on, Ron. We say hoot. We say hoot. This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugatz. Stugatz, I don't know if the audience is going to take this bit of information and assume that all of the money that has been pouring into the Ron McGill endowment

because people just sort of trust, he's going to take great care of taking care of the animals and try to remove all the paperwork and everything else. So you either trust him to be decent and have decent people running his things or he's gonna get a new car and a Cadillac as he has better clothes. And now soon he and I are running off to Africa again.

I want to get to Africa where it is that I got engaged to my wife. And now I'm gonna have a personal safari tour with him. And I'm assuming it's all paid for by the endowment, by the listener. Or the merch store. Or the merch store. I don't know who's paying for all of this,

but I am very pleased to announce that I'm gonna have a personal tour guide in Africa with Ron McGill How great is that gonna be? It's gonna be it's gonna be epic that word is sometimes overused But this is truly going to be epic everything from Victoria Falls In Kruger National Park the lepers lions elephants. I mean rhinos buffalo. It's gonna be amazing that private chefs, tents that make a five-star hotel in New York look like a bunkhouse. It's going to be like nothing you've ever experienced in your life. I pulled out the best of the best.

We're staying in Derrick and Beverly Joe Bear's private suite in Botswana, which is like unbelievable. This is going to be like nothing you've ever seen Wow What's the dynamic of this trip like is your so you're going to show Dan around Africa and Ron working? Yeah, you is he paying you is he paying for your expenses? Is he paying you to do this? What's the dynamic? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, he's not paying for me. Oh This is a pleasure and a privilege for me, not as much for him as it is for his beautiful wife. There's no way a tent is nicer than a hotel room. Okay, wait until I send you the pictures, Billy G.

Billy G, huh? Cam Newton status. I mean, are you staying in a yurt? Because I have stayed in a yurt that's nicer than a hotel room. I have, I've done that. Trust me. Well, trust me. Well, I want to just send you guys...

When we get back, we'll send you pictures, and it'll be fodder for social media forever. Hmm. Is Dan building the tent? To be clear, none of the endowment money is actually going to any of what it is. Thank you, Dan. Yeah, right.

But the merch store money is. No, none of the money... All of the money is being kept in all the right places. You either believe that Ron McGill is an honorable man or you do not. Or you believe that he is paying for trips around the world so that with listener funds, I don't believe he would do that. That would be a terrible fraud at the end of his great and distinguished career. So I'm going to trust him with this one.

When's this happening just to make sure we have the PTO on the calendar because that seemed to be an issue last week. I don't usually tell dates because that tells you when you're gonna be out of town and people watching say hey that's the time to go. Because he's been in Miami all his life. Ron McGill will tell you the same thing Michael tell you we won't storm a court here because the police will break our legs and that's understood. They'll shoot you is what Mike said. No but I mean they understood from a young age. No, they're They're way ahead of the times on security measures. We will not rush a field because why will end up in the hospital for 10 days? I aspire to have a compound like Ron where he's afraid to say when he's out of town

Also in all fairness the people of Africa have asked that I do not disclose when Dan is going to be there because we know how you know too many hippos and ones The crew are and they they could get out there and you know try to try to get a dammit A continent asked not to disclose No one asked you to be a poacher Poachers? A continent They did. They told me listen we don't want to make it no

I'm just gonna be here because It's an airbrush you wear a cap on some. Both season. What are we afraid of? Poachers wall. Just saying, just saying. The guy draws a crowd and we don't want crowds. We want peace and tranquility out there in Africa.

Going at the hippos. You know, you guys. They're labrador out there. That's for sure. You guys have. I want to meet this poacher. He's got a Mike Francis,a diet Coke on his wall. You and Valerie got room in the tent for me

because I've never been to Africa and I would really like to join you on that trip. Tell me all fair when it starts. Their tent that they're staying in has room for the entire crew and you guys wouldn't even have to see each other. Thank you, Dan. Thank you, Dan. Thank you Dan.

I believe the sweet. The tenth sweet is 3,000 square feet. Wow. Seriously? That's crazy. You're still calling it a tent? The only thing that's about it is canvas walls. We're talking about hardwood floors, incredible,

you know, Roman tubs, jacuzzi's. I mean, it's unbelievable. Oh my gosh. We're talking about hardwood floors, incredible, you know, Roman tubs, jacuzzi's. I mean, it's unbelievable. Oh my gosh. Ron, I had sent to the people who work over here because I saw it the other day and I couldn't believe the size of an anaconda that I'm assuming was real. I think it was the biggest that has ever been seen anywhere. And I'm assuming in the age of artificial intelligence

that you're able to verify things that are real and are not real. And when you saw this video I speak of, were you somewhat? I've not seen the video, but what I'm looking at right now is a red-faced Yukari. That's not an Anaconda. It's a red-faced Yukari, kind of like when Stu gots gets really mad.

Yep. Chris Cody, why are you making faces at me? Oh, no, I'm making faces at the video team because they're doing the thing where it's a side by side. And before it was Benjamin Franklin and Larry David and now it's Monkey. That's what it is. Oh, we're still, okay. So we're still making the joke.

When you were onboarded by Chris Cody, did he say anything about how you look? Because it's visually startling to everyone every time you make a sharing. I saw him smirking. I did look at him and go, the heck did you lose a bet I thought he was George Washington but I guess he's Larry David. My larger point though Ron is just the the idea of a an anaconda that is the size of three or four Shaquille O'Neal stacked on top of each other. How is that a thing that can be real? That can be real.

I will say an Anaconda is the largest snake in the world. It's not the longest. The longest snake in the world, the world record is 33 feet, three inches, a reticulated python. I'm looking at the video now. It looks it looks pretty real. But again, with all this artificial intelligence, I don't know what to believe anymore. I saw a video the other day of a great white shark on a beach that looks so

real to me and then they told me, oh, it's artificial intelligence. So there is an outstanding award of over $100,000 for any snake 30 feet or longer that can be found today. So I mean, that's $100,000 snake there. If they're saying it's 30 feet long. But why? Why is that a reward? Because nobody believes that it exists anymore and they think actually Created this reward from a legitimate source that if you can produce a 30 foot snake you will be paid $100,000 who do you turn that into like a dead snake? You just have a snake carcass and you take it somewhere Directly as long as you can legitimately prove that it was that long

I'm hoping they would not kill it and you take it somewhere? Directly, yeah, as long as you can legitimately prove that it was that long, I'm hoping they would not kill it, but people do a lot of things for $100,000. I don't think the $100,000 is based on a live snake. It just has to be based on a real snake. Wow. Ron, can you explain to us what that eats? What's something like that?

How long that would take for a snake to get that large? What is the- That anaconda is an ambush predator and it's going to feed primarily probably on copy bars which are the largest, the world's largest rodent, fairly common throughout the Amazon, Amazon basin. They are an aquatic type of rodent, so they swim quite a bit. Like I said, a large rodent, that would be a very good meal. They will also feed on deer, various type of deer that come to drink in the water.

Again, they just will place themselves on the bank of the water, generally speaking, waiting for something to come and get a drink and they'll get it that way, or they'll slowly track it down. Animals take common paths. They create paths. Even though they're in the wild, they'll take the same path almost every day as part of their routine. Snakes can smell that and they'll wait there and they'll camouflage themselves along that path until the animal unknowingly walks by and then wraps his coils around him suffocates and swallows him whole the great white shark that you saw that washed up Sure was not artificial intelligence. That was a real thing a 15 foot pregnant great white shark washed up

I was another one, but there's another one. There's another one. Okay. I saw that one. Okay. Yeah There's a bunch of local news outlets. There was a fishing hook found in the mouth of a great white shark. They're still doing studies to find out as to why this pregnant great white shark washed up ashore. We are getting more and more great white shark sightings. We are seeing humpback whales off the coast of Florida as well. There have been killer whales spotted down here. Not that the occasional great white shark sighting hasn't been an occasional thing down here, but they're becoming more and more routine. What is happening in our coastal waters that is getting all this new marine life?

Well, you know, hopefully it's good news. Hopefully the populations are increasing and hopefully there's just, there's more out there. But it also can have something to do with climate change. You know, as temperatures are changing in the waters, populations of fish are shifting and the prey that feeds on those fish is also shifting. So you know, you might just be seeing a shift in populations where you might not see as many in places they were previously seen and seeing more and now these, you know. That's what I want to ask you about because these are generally marine life that are spotted in colder water temperatures.

And when you say climate change, well, why the heck would they want to come down here when the ocean water sometimes is that of a sauna? But this could all be migratory and predatory? Exactly, migratory and predatory. And again, Mike, I think animals have the ability to adapt to things. Maybe these animals that, for generations,

have been restricted to colder water climates, all of a sudden now it's starting to say, well, you know what, we're getting warmer and warmer, we're going to start getting ourselves introduced to this warmer, warmer climate. And as each successive generation comes along, we might be seeing animals like the polar bears. I think, you know, within several generations, you're going to start seeing polar bears come inland and start hunting inland and start competing with grizzly bears because getting out in the ice is no longer an option for them.

I don't think they're going to go quote unquote extinct, but what they're going to do is they're probably going to come in. I believe there's already been documented cases of them hybridizing with grizzly bears. And you know, you're going to come up with the adaptation of basically another species of bear that comes from the polar bear. Not the true polar bear we know today, but not a polar bear either. What a horror that is you're describing. You're describing a future where there are bear wars right before they come for the humans. Where the polar bears and the grizzly bears are going to fight over land and they're going to look at humans and they're like that those are going to be delicious too. That's the apocalypse you're describing in our

future. There you go. New movie. Planet of the Bears. Ron I was driving home and I stopped at the Fort Pierce Service Plaza and for whatever reason they had like animal facts printed along the ceiling. And one of them was scientists estimate that 91% of ocean species have yet to be classified. That's just made up, right? Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

I've said this many times, Billy. We know less about the ocean than we know about the moon. But that number is just, they just said let's pick a big number, right? There's no way that you could know that you don't know 91% of something. I think it's fair to say that they can extrapolate that just from where the places that they haven't been able to discover, the places they haven't had access to, you know, looking at things, you know, coral reefs have, they're like the rainforest of the water. I mean, there's so much diversity, so much that we

haven't discovered yet. Even in the coral reefs, we get to the stuff we haven't discovered yet. In a rainforest, listen, in a rainforest, we get 50% of all of our pharmaceuticals from rainforest plants, yet we've only thoroughly, you know thoroughly examined 10% of the plants in our rainforest. So there's 90% of the plants that we haven't examined yet, where we got 50% from 10%, what's in that other 90%? Same thing with the ocean, man. A lot of numbers. We're the coolest. Made up.

A lot of numbers. That's it. Scott Steiner, man. You know what, Billy and Chris Cody got it exactly right. Yeah, numbers, numbers, numbers, shut up, Zoo Man. Greg Cody has a question. Well, no, I have a question for a sorry to cut you off. Did you hear Ron about Charlotte, the stingray in North Carolina,

who hasn't had a maiden eight years and is now impregnated and no one knows how if it was one of the sharks that's in the tank or not? Not that no one knows how. It's not one of the sharks in the tank. It's something called parthenogenists. It's not uncommon in fish and some reptiles where they're actually able to fertilize their own eggs

without having a mate. Like Jesus. How about that? So that happens. Listen, there are other animals that have what's called sperm storage. For instance, the common box turtle can store sperm for up to seven years.

In other words, breed in 2010 and have babies from that one breeding for every year up to 2017 by storing the sperm. So, I mean, wildlife is incredible when you think about this stuff. And what it does is it removes the necessity for these animals to meet every time. So when populations get thin or they spread out, you still are able to keep the numbers up because you don't have to meet The guy to get him pregnant you can keep producing young Ron New York City is morning the death of celebrity owl flacco Was oh god. I didn't hear that he died. Yeah, he died He ran into a building and now they're investigating whether

Suggesting foul play to a building and now they're investigating whether he was still going. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. We didn't brought into a base suggesting foul play. I'll go. Yeah, I meant he flew in. Bye, Billy. Fly out of here. I enjoyed it. Fly out of here. That's awful, especially since. I mean, it's no, this is there. Look, what? Yep. Look, two minutes for a good joke. No. I didn't know fuck the diet. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to break it to you. You know everything.

You're the animal expert, I mean. All right, this is why I'm mortified about just what happened right now, okay? Well, I don't know the problem. Oh, there it is. I saw that one coming. Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Great Cody.

Bleep. Ha ha ha ha. I got anything thing for you. Lewis feeling the hot hand. Stop talking Lewis. I do feel bad that I broke that terrible news to Ron. But this is why that ring sense is here. All of this was very poorly handled for a number of reasons. First, I believe Ron McGill to be the foremost national voice

there is right now. There aren't very many of these over time, speaking to two cultures about the protection and care of the animals. And that you guys would break this news to him, which has been in the news. I'm sorry that it was delivered that way, Ron, because it's been in the news,

and I just assume that this news had received, that you'd received it because the people in New York are hurt by what's happened here, that this owl has died. Understandably so, and all fairness, I haven't been watching the news the last couple of days, I kind of been swamped in work, I get home and I just fall asleep.

Why is this owl so famous? Well, he escaped or was released from the Bronx Zoo, a Central Park Zoo. It's a Eurasianurasian Eagle Island is one of the largest owls in the world. And this happened over a year ago, I believe. And people were worried about him that he was gonna die. Oh my God. And all he did is found out how to eat rats and squirrels

and live off of the the abundancy of these vermin in New York City. So he became somewhat of a folk hero and was doing very, very well. Big fear was that something would happen. Someone would shoot him, someone someone we heard of he'd be hit by a vehicle or a car Well, God forbid now he's crashed into a window. I guess I don't I have to look into this, but now I'm severe I'm really bummed. I'm very depressed. I'm sorry that we delivered this news that way to you because you guys kind of trampled on On that part is an owl flying into a building like if a human dies with the train tracks

It's like I had to be their fault. Oh, come on. Like I'm saying, I feel like the other birds are looking around. Some birds can't see the windows. Chris, Chris, let me educate you on something. Come on. I try to tell people all the time

when you have big sliding doors or windows in your home, please use these little stickers or little markers so that birds can see them. Because what birds see is the reflection of what's behind that. And you see, that hurts, that hurts. I say. Bottom line is birds will fly because see is the reflection of what's behind that. And you see, that hurts, that hurts. I say, you say, who? Bottom line is birds will fly because they see the reflection and they hit that, they don't realize it's not,

you know, the forest behind them or the sky behind them. And they hit that, you know how many millions of birds die every year from hitting windows? Billy doesn't care about the animals. It's been made clear. Falsehoods. It's a flash of what it wanted. All right, get out of here.

I say, who? Get out of here. I say who? Get out of here. You say who? They say who. I'm really, you know, I'm sad, guys. I'm sad and I feel badly for flakka. I feel badly for you guys making light of this. Making light.

So, you know, I hope you sleep well tonight. Wow. Geez. It's wrong. Ron's on the right side of this. These are assholes, Ron. I'm on your side. I'm on, I'm 100% on your side, Ron.

They deliver that news to you and then are total assholes about it. Well, Ron cares so much that he didn't know the news. I know, but we deliver the news to him and he's delivered that way. It's brutal. I'm done, guys. I'm just checking on your friends, everyone. And by the way, you're not, listen, the tent you're talking about, it's got. I'm done, guys. I'm just checking on your friends. And by the way, you're not. Listen, the tent you're talking about,

it's got mahogany antiques in it. Listen, OK, get in a real tent. What you guys just did, wretched. Wretched, what you just did to Ron McGill. In fairness, the death was four days ago. I spent three days in mourning, and now I'm celebrating the life of Flakka with a little bit of humor. It's the JJ Watts of tents.

I mean, seriously, minimalistic. Get out of here. You guys are acting like you're going out in the wild. You're staying in a Ritz.